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this is actually episode episode of eleven. And if you're new to the podcast, please go back and start with episode one because most of our episodes are tied to one another. And uh, you won't hear me until episode three, but definitely go back and listen to all our episodes. If you're new to the podcast, and if you're listening to this episode of The Gangster Chronicles on iTunes, please leave us a rating and the reviews that we can continue bringing this amazing show to you. You can rate

us from one to five stars, and five stars. If you love the show and if you want to continue to hear it, write a review and tell us what you enjoyed about our show so far. But before I start with our fact checks from last episode, James, you got a few words, Yeah, I got a few words. I wanna. I want to shout out to a lot of people that supporting us. I said at the beginning of this whole or a deal that I ain't gonna forget nobody, and I appreciate everybody. First, I want to

start off. I want to say, man, thank you Jesus, my grandson. We went to court yesterday. He's out of the system. He's with his granddaddy. We don't have to go no courts, no lawyers, no nothing. My grand baby is is free. We straight and we can move on with our life. Thank you, Thank you. And these people I want to mention, you know a lot of them hitting me on message, jer and and you know, sending

me a lot of good ship and I appreciate it. Uh, Mike Craikberg, Craig Big, uh Cohatten, Ed Potts, Curtis Snow, Walter Adams, Nick Noonan, Greg Kadine, Vincent Moss, Cornelius Woods, Sam Right, Brandon Lee, Robert Hatcher, My Dog, My Club brothers, Uh, Joe Alvarren, Joe Alvarez, and my boy Reggie sitting next to me, and Tony, Tony Wright, Brian Calvin, uh D, Will, Jacob Martinez and the Mogul Giant. I appreciate you people. It's a whole lot, but um, I can't name more

than one. When one show gains, that will be the whole show. But I appreciate all your brothers for the the comments. Just get our show started, alright, cool, cool, Hey, let me just say something right quick. I need y'all tune in the Bomb First tomorrow because all of you people out there to keep acting about this cast thing. I'm gonna go ahead and release the police report and show you an expose his brother how much of a

big Larry is. So I got a cop of the police reporter to b off of you tomorrow on tomorrow morning on Bomb First and you can view it and and um let's see what really really really happened. That's the police report of what the incident with the big Cash trying to thank you want to take credit for with the damon Tomas in the Big Poppy and all of that. Okay, And how do they find that channel?

Reggie Bomb First YouTube channel that's b NB one st correct Bomb first YouTube channel posted up tomorrow and maybe we'll talk about that on another episode. We kind of went into that thoroughly a couple of episodes ago, So if you guys haven't heard that episode, uh, I believe that was the episode called the g Code, which is a two part episode, part one and two. And last week I said we were gonna talk about more about the Central Park five, but we kind of already went

into into detail with that last week much. I don't know if there's anything else we can say on that. Um, if you guys haven't heard that episode, go check that one out. That's called When They See Us And that's also a two part episode from last week, part one

and two. That would have been episode um, episode ten. Now, I did learn a lot from actually watching it and going through those interviews, though, but please y'all try to listen to the the the people in themselves, the documentary parts or the things on YouTube, and not just the movie along uh that's on Netflix, because there's a lot of holes getting mixed. Yeah, I mean, it is Hollywood

and it's not always exactly accurate. But um, I think Eva Devorne here name, I think I think she captured the stortion, and I've seen a few other big Robert de Niro was an ettecutive producer on that. Alright, Yeah, he was actually married to a black chick name took. Okay, all right, let me just go over a few fact checked from last week's episode, episode number ten. Um Omar Bradley was convicted in July to two thousand seventeen and was sentenced to three years probation. We talked a little

bit about him last week. His first conviction was in two thousand four and they overturned that in two thousand twelve and then decided to re triumph and he was found guilty in two thousand seventeen. He's not serving any time. He got three years probation, and they followed appeal on that conviction, and that was what I was referring to, had just got uphill. Yeah, that his conviction was just upheld this year two thousand nineteen, and um he was

actually found guilty of two felonies. One was misappropriation of public funds by a public officer and the second charge was misuse of public funds by a public officer for personal gain, and he was convicted of spending a total a grand total of six thousand, five hundred dollars over the course of eight years. That comes out to, um what does that come out to per year if you

average that out. But but like I said, the city manager took most of the fall because they were doing something with uh doing because they were they had so many transactions where they did it for four thousand nine uh that that was crazy. Hey, but let me just say this about the city, um Man, they just had the election last week, and do you know the people that want to councils. It's a hundred thousand people in that city. I guess how many people how many votes

to turnout? The Okay, the turnouts are the votes to us in the city of Confdence for to a two man race. And I've been gender you know, because they were females involved. But for a two person race, let me say it that way. Votes is what one city council in that city city of Kunta. It's crazy. Jane Jane, the lady that's you're seen on YouTube the ones have been following it. That's related to old more she lost,

which is um it's a good, bad thing. She was starting to be a little bit too cocky because she you know, was the one that's on YouTube that are that y'all saw on Facebook and stuff that was bragging about how she controlled the councils because she has three votes. Well, so you won't have no more of that. And um, let's see what Asia Brown do. We're gonna try to get Cheeko on the show next week or in the

upcoming the weeks. Who's which with Asia that I've been doing a lot of stuff and that's the gentleman that you you spoke on James that uh yeah, he was a freeway Rick Cross co defendant back in the day and so I've been in communication with him and he's been trying to do a lot of positive things to get back to the city of Campta. Definitely, he's been working on on this anti gang and in adventure prevention for years. He used to work for a place called

a place called Home. That's what brought my attention the five dollars down. Yeah, you know it's some more people. You know, you talked to Jane and their people, they'll tell you that that he's lying on that and that's not well, you know, something that had happened or so we were very both sides in I'll try to get a uh Bishop Guillory and Chico to come here and talk conversation with Chico. Last week I said Ray Nagan

was sentenced to twelve years. He was actually sentenced to ten years, and his sentence started believe in two thousand and eighteen. He was convicted of filing a false income tax return and bribery which was fifty dollars. He was trying to get some people to work for his son's granted company, and I guess technically that's illegal when you're holding a public office, and he forgot he wasn't CEO

of a private industry anymore. He was a mayor and also Home Depot was involved in that scam to get this granite contract to his sons, but home Depot was never charged. His sons were never charged, only Ray Nagan, and he started a ten year sentence and in the FED you gotta do so he's gonna do eight and a half years of that ten year sentence. UM really interesting. Eric Parrott and we talked about in briefly last week.

He has an interesting resume. Graduated from cal State University of Domingus Hills in eight two, Long Beach, Well Okay. Then he um did twelve years as Compton p D. Then he was putting himself through school while he was a p D. And then he got hired in to be the Deputy d A for Los Angeles County and then he became mayor in two thousand one. And he's the only then mayor elected three times. And he lost to Asia Brown in two thousand thirteen. So that's his

very interesting resume. Of Eric Parrittin still around. What's he doing? Still? Good friend of mine? Uh Man, Why do you treat me like that? They say he's the longest um mayor in Compton history, which would be so there's no term limits in Compton. You can just keep running and keep so when he lost to Asia Brown, that would have been his fourth term if he would have won three years. Now you can do as many as you like, you said. I don't think they have termed them now, but at

the time they didn't remember Mayor Tucker. Walter Tucker was there for a while, but I think he died while he was in office, which was not the son Tucker Jr. Got indicted while the mayor. No, actually he became a congressman. But they in that track that trash company Merkell boy, get you in trouble boy, that's what they all got indicted behind. Yeah and else. People were planning it to

not recently, but we did. Your brother, Butchery went with me to uh give him the check at this at this my house for when we put him in office. But was a cop from eighty tow to ninety four, so he's seen all the drama on the streets of Compton. He's seen a lot of ship. My father's training because he was there, like I said, worked in the city. His brother worked in the city for a while. He's a Compton raised. I mean they've been on Central. He's

a Nutty blocker. He grew up in Nutty Block right on Central, right across from the graveyard the cemetery, so Central, and I forget the street across, but just just the south of Alandro. Full of ship. All right. Last week we were talking about all the corrupt You mentioned the corrupt mayors of Chicago, and I said Rod, Rod Blogoyevic was one of them. But Rod Blagoyevich was actually a governor.

Governor and in fact, four of the last seven governors of Illinois were sent to prison rob rob Bogoyevich, George Ryan sentence, the six point five what the deal for the Obama the Obama Dan Walker was sentenced to seven years and Otto Kerner back in the seventies were sentenced to three years. But yeah, Rodd Blogoevic tried to sell Barack Obama Senate seat after he became president. So you got this vacant Senate se and you know there's only

there's two senators per state. Yeah, obviously the show with uh Kelsey Grammer The Boss, they try to show you how corrup Chicago was. If you don't get chance watched up The Boss. Can you believe that the four of their last seven governors were sent to prison? Then what did that chell you that they believe in corruption in Chicago. There's a lot of Illinois, a lot of the corrupt politicians. If you look at the history of Chicago, Illinois would

never charge or indicted. So we're talking about more of a modern period here where they're starting to get indicted. Was about what was the big the one that back in the day that we used to always just I'll write corrupt George I forget his name. But the one thing I like about Chicago, one of those governors on the way out. You remember when he partnered everybody on thatfth row, one of them partnering let everybody going there,

all right. And also when we were talking about the Central so you ain't gonna die, commuter, when we're talking about the Central Park. Five. Last week, I brought up the Guantanamobey detainees and looked it up. The US government had detained seven hundred and seventy five Muslims in Guantanamo Bay. Today there's forty one still in custody. They released over

seven hundred of them and they only charged seven. So because most of the dudes didn't do anything like I was trying to say last week that we're in Guantanamo Bay. But there's forty one currently sitting in Guantanamo Bay right now of the original seven hundred and seventy five. And um, it took it took a Freedom of Information Act for the government to even release the list of those guys in Guantanamo Bay. But yes, seven of seven hundred of

them have been released. In fact, Barack Obama released five or six of them, um and traded. It was a trade. He released some of them and then they got back. I don't know if it was a soldier or someone that was an American kidnapped, but uh, they end up just using them as little tools and little pawns for negotiations. Some of them are CIA operator operatives now and then sometimes some of them gave up information on things that was going on. Hey, where was that war? When you're

at war? Y'all watched Hogan's Hogans here ros, I'll see how they hold him? Where was that warm man? They remember? Zero? When they had all the all of them held in prison. I don't yell remember. I didn't really watch it. Yeah, I was I was young. Though they was able to come and go when they wanted to. They had little escape. Yeah. Yeah. And the last fact check that I have is, um, we talked about waterboarding briefly. Uh. Bush actually banned water boarding.

George Bush President UM, well not, he's not really junior. He's George Herbert Walker Bush. He banned water boarder in two thousand and six, but only for the military. He said the c i A can still use it. But then in two thousand and fourteen, UH Senate Select Committee on Intelligence issue to five page reports saying that they weren't gonna do waterboarding anymore, and that it didn't yield any um information on terrorism. Sure they wouldn't get none

out of it. So I guess it's actually there's mixed reviews on whether or not waterboarding was ever effective effect. Some CIA agents will still say, hey, it helped me out, but others will say it took us on a wild goose chase. So it's it's inconclusive. I would say whether or not what they call enhanced interrogation techniques are even effective. The government called it chatter. I call it CI CIA informants, but they say, we got chatter. No, you got an

informant they called yours. Yeah, oh we got chatter. Chatter told us this is about to happen. Now you had an informant called you this is about to happen. Well, in this report, it said the CIA's use of enhanced interrogation techniques was not effective for acquiring intelligence or gaining cooperation from the detainees. All right, so let's move on to our first effect. That glad Uh, my boy, my boy. Yeah, that's funny. But anyway, what's that nickname um sa si

ke d D called me? Is that right? Yeah? Oh yeah, he called me. He's willing to come up on the show. I gotta see see how my people react to that. But anyone I need to bring Keife on Street TV. Told him. I told him that we're gonna set it up. He knows you are. He said, next week we're gonna talk. He's coming to town. So we're gonna talk, all right, So we're gonna let you do it, and you can do the interview because my people don't like him. But he was disappointed that I put out that Think was

over him in terms of being a trafficker. Yeah, ain't that crazy? Yeah? Okay, So this is an interview that you did for Flag where he asked you, and he's always asking these to me ridiculous questions. But who was the biggest drug dealer in in Compton at the time. You said Fink was about He said, Think work for him. So he wanted me to clear that up. And so I'm clearing that up. Alright, So Fink actually worked for KPD. Fink had money though, Man, if he was working for him,

I mean he had to really happen. Maybe Fink was working for him, but then also working for other people that made his money. More than with paper. Think was doing this thing, and he kept, he kept and he kept think he was only crimp over there. They had a blood sidekick. Where's think at Now he's still on the street, He's still around. I bet he's got a hell of a story. He wouldn't one of those loudcats, think win one of those. Now. He's real quiet, Yeah, exactly,

he was. He was. He was cool right down to day. Still yeah cool cool. How often you guys see the same And I don't know how long, but I know Zeke still deal with him. Zeke, Zeke is still good. Zeke telled me he had an heart attack. Zeke told me he out there doing railroad. Yeah, on the valley. Z he working for the rail road. He's messing up no more. You know. I just watched this interview that Freeway Ricky Ross gave the other day. He's done a

He's done a bunch of interviews. But one thing that you never really hear about are the guys that kind of laid the foundation for Freeway, Ricky Ross and and these guys never get mentioned. And I'm talking about like Whitey Enterprises, the drug traffickers. He talked about the Island and all of them. Well, you got whitey enterprises, you got um who else you got? You have a third world? Out of the four trays you're talking about the guys up under the ones that he was serving, well, some

of these guys weren't even serving cocaine. They were doing they were serving water. They were doing that. Some of these guys like Ray Ray from Pasadena, Ray Browning, You don't really hear about these guys like that's why he didn't really tell that's his that's why he gets this his street car. They did. He he'd be like I told of people above me that the Colombians that, uh the what's the Salvadorians not a Salvadorians nag? And the

United States government. Yeah, but through a Ricky Ross eighty six, we had we had drug dealers in l a and eight seventy nine, two eighty three before Ricky Ross. But was it Rock, It was Potter, and PC was PCP shern water. But these dudes was pulling up in rolls. And this for you white guys to know that um serm is about the only drug of trade that the blacks control. They knew the mix, they knew the formula

for the PCP and the SWAT. Yeah, and guess what, that's automatically a license hate that how they do us, that's automatically. Wasn't your boy from New York coming to l A and taking it to New York the one that got into it with all of them? You know you're talking about zip and yeah, they said, but those they my boys. I'll be kidding. Yeah, that's why I said, yo boy, Because I don't know how popular Sherm and Water got in New York, but if it did, it was through von Zi. Yeah. Know, when I was a

kid in New York, the drug of choice was heroin. Heroin. Everybody's doing heroin and all the blacks are doing here, I'm talking about the needles in the arm heroin. But they was doing though. And we're talking about early seven he got put in. You'll be talking. I keep telling you, you you gotta put date the seven seventies. I don't recall Sherman the seventies and New Yeah, like you said, it was seventies seven and seventy eight, seventy nine when the Sharon was hot. I mean when it was on

the streets because cocaine they really hit our community. I don't remember to eighty two they were smoking Sherman before they started with the shooting ship. There's only one side with shooting was doing like the seven days and then yeah seven PCP was before and motherfucker's putting the PCP down and started doing doing the So I got a ton the way I got the Heroin for dog Fools from and then old school. Yeah, so the old school

they always was into that. That the needle. But our guy like like yo yo, yeah, most of the most of the homies, that's what they were hooked on. So many mothers on she get used to be so bad and you knew it as a cop when a bad batch was out, everybody was running up down the street streaking. But right pitch uh Stanley, Yeah, okay, but I love that part because I don't want to put nobody out there.

One in the loud park up under the headquarters and some chick came over there and said the wrong ship and she was attacked and gotta gotta rest remove removing like in the park like yeah that Shermon's Sherton was back then, and you were strong as ox strong man. I don't remember. We always got a cop hurt when you had to find. That's when they came out with the nets. They stopped telling them that y'all just circle them and throw the net on him and tie them

up like down there a dog. You can just you know, when somebody was shutting up because he running down the street and you know it was a bad backstand. But when they did that. But you know now the Shermans still out there the way, Daddy's still out there. But guess who's on him now? Everyone around the Mexican Yeah, but they like that met that fetamine too. Yeah, but you know some blacks are starting that too. Remember no blacks was doing man that it's so bad that you said,

like on the motorcycle set. A lot of them are using it. A lot of them doing that, blowing the methic ship and it's it's a new crap. It's sucking everything up. It's cheaper. It's cheaper. So if you can get it cheaper than going to buy fody and and get everybody in the house loaded, you can go by a ganging that ship and just be fucked up. But it's it's taking its toll on you. They don't do

like cocaine like you gotta smoke that ship. For years, we look at cocaine so bad as a black race because we don't see so many of our people messed up behind that ship. But cocaine is actually a natural drug where methand fetomin is all chemicals, all chemicals, and it shows. It's not to say that boys and girls go out there and do some cocaine or hair that's

rugs ship. But see, you know that's unfortunately, that's why people have to need that hot power for weed in them because most of our guys, their mamma's was on that ship in the eighties and it was in the system. Well, that's why most of the dudes need that weed and them they're still trying to get that that high because they when they were babies and ship and their mama's

system they were getting it. It just seems there's something more dangerous about the manufactured chemical drugs like spice, math as opposed to your natural hardcore drugs cocaine, heroin. Not to say that any of this stuff is good, but that drugs, man, it just seems like it just takes people to a whole another level physically. Mentally. I didn't see them all. I don't see them all that's good.

That that's the one good thing about marijuana. I think, let's keeping because you hear very few kids getting hooked on the cocaine, the rock cocaine and the myth and all of that. Well, it's very few out there using marijuana and using another drug. And and it's that and it goes with that cahol, you know what I'm saying. So somebody just catch behind the motherfucker and you don't even you can't even talk to nobody, because I mean, I ain't never smoked weed in my life, so I know.

I mean, well, the first time I tried it, I flipped the funk out. I talked about everybody that was on the on the bleachers and wind up getting into a fight. My jaws swoll up, and I didn't like the feeling change that you did that all the time, you know what. I voted thish ocasions. But I'm just telling him my only experience that marijuana that was at one time, and I didn't like the feeling. And it was over, you know what I'm saying, over and done with.

I didn't take polutar reports with James, I shot home. He's I mean, James, yea y'all. Just y'all know that y'all know the nice James. Well, this this is the James that's totally different. You know what I'm saying. That's older. You know what I'm saying, I'm not looking at game banging and none of that other ship ouncing ouncing situation gave me a whole differ perspective. She'll taught me a lot, whether people believe it or not, you know what I'm saying.

One conversation I had with my Mom's taught me a lot. She said, none of the motherfucker's is your friends. I took the hood, my mama, you know what I'm saying. And at the end of the day, she was right. But it took my brother to look to get killed for me to really like see that ship. Now, I'm like, damn all of this ship. I put my mom's through and look what the hood did, Look what Sug did. Everybody iron trust. So I'm giving in. I'm giving myself

one hunt and I'm getting back thirty five. I'm getting back this shicty ass motherfucker. You can't do me like that no more. I'm on some if the next motherfucking this real ship and it's like cross me like that and I give my all two and I had to kill him. Yeah. I'm just saying I've just got a poor uh since the judgment when it comes to people, and I'm thinking that I can just really read people. And you say, man, this guy is cool. This got

one honey. Now let me see how it worked. All right, Well, let's get into our first question. Let's go of the episode. Um, first interesting question here. This is this question is pppost for all of us, whether it's in law enforcement, for Reggie, whether it's me for interviewing, or for you James, just in the streets. But who are some of the most reputable street gang guys, street guys that you ran ran

across over your careers? Well me growing up, like I said, I know all the the uh Robert and Craig, the Munson's I'm reading across. Oh man, big Pokey, all those lows, some boys, the older ones. Um Man, I I ran it to some. I know a lot of reportable guys. I know. I know who a lot of them. Um, it's just just knowing that we just ran into I'm ran into it quite a few. I know, Reggie, you ran into a whole lot on the on the street here. I can name the names, and you know I call names.

I don't mind calling names. It's gonna depend and maybe the female boy James on one of them, um blow as you don't say tray Vine was one of your reportables and were good Traylon Lane. Why do y'all say that there's so many trade Vons out there? That's what I wanted to be there so they can say, Now, I'm gonna take that back. Trayvond ain't said nothing and uh two weeks about me, so I'm cool on him. Well,

I've never met Trayvon. In fact, I love to interview tray Von everybody, but a thinking about Go ahead, Reggie, who are some of the guys that you've crossed path stay on the red and blue side, And I'm just gonna mainly speak on confident because I don't know too many of the l A G l A guys only by reputation, but that I ran into personally. M George Wims was one. I mean, that's the one. I said. Well, maybe uh offend from from looters. Um James would be

one from the mall in his era. Um Stanley Pitts uh doing his song yea from em Lane. I will go with with rock chisehlm um uh from Um from Santana. I would go a gangster or one of the twins for real. Uh Um, you wouldn't put Turtle on the Turtle was mainly a drug dealer. He was with thee TO but he was with but he was mainly known for making it happen, no making the sack. Let me say, I know, dude, he's a shooter. He's with it. He

ain't gotta shoot you. I give credit with credit is due man, and and to leave him out, you might as well leave out gangster. But that's your's Marcel Marcetills from Nantana. Marcellus Um, you know he had this time. I remember they'm running forty eight under him and gangster running forty eight hunder for the locals. Um which was a jail module in l A County jail. Um big Duck from Fruit Town, him and his brother Um Dave Um trying to go by by street gangs is where

I'm trying to go. I can't think of anyone off hand from Kelly Park right now. Uh from Santana block was younger Tony Lane Tony Lane played a big factor in all kind of ways in the hood. Yeah, I won't give him for getting in the car. I can go, so you go, and I can go to Momo, just like a one hundred solid rest in peace money, you know. Yeah, Momo. He was one hundred and and and a lot of people was hate no Momo because he was pretty much the whole package. It was a dude from tree Top

that I don't remember escaped from the Compton courthouse. That was a killer that was from tree Top, her rule, big old dude and he escaped from the jail. Um from the courthouse when he came. Yeah, he from We got all of the fish tank they call it the fish tech and guy any limehoods Bryan mcgart Yeah, Um, it's it's it's a few livehoods over there. That's that's with it. But um, you got a bait and we forgot time to go, you know, because you can go both ways. Well, you got to put Marcus now on

the top of the list of Compton. You gotta put him on the top. A lot of people don't understand Marcus paved the way for a lot of brothers in the neighborhood. Um, and he he stopped a lot of ship that would a lot of cats wouldn't have been here over b as and people thinking now this is me speaking from being in the hood and and being over there would have been seeing him seeing us get down. Uh, stopped a lot of ship from happening. You know, niggas

do stupid ship, especially when they get drunk. And Marcus was more, let me talk to you first. If I can't talk to you, didn't fuck it. And and most of the times it was fucking and and and ship happened where it happened. And you can't blame it because you've been for you've been told fool. I don't think I'm playing with your type of ship. So you gotta put you gotta put Marcus none the chocolate list, you know, even just with that, because a lot of motherfucker's got

power out there. Yea. And in the Mexicans. I want to go with uh. And I know he's out of the game now. But Lefty from CCGs compl Chicago Games. Yeah CCG that's small. Yeah Lefty and his little brother no CCGs okay, c VCG. Uh, Yeah, what was up with Lefty? He was a writer with him and his brothers, Junior and Agar. They stayed right next to to my grandmother house on Harrow Street, and man, it was just them in that little game and Penguin and all of them.

And they used to give the else a gundules and the and the Seven Olds. Uh, that's on that side. I think the Chico seven Olds, they used to get them to run for their money. Uh. And there's some seven Olds, the guy we talked about on the last episode from Seven Olds the Twins from the one five five one of the oldest games in Compton, Mexican Games on I forget them because I don't you know, I don't forgot them. But though t flax they used to

get here. But t flax was no joke, you know, to be honest, A lot of the youngsters for the Mexican Games did a lot of the work, and you know, they just had um guys that sent back to kind of sick amonia. So you know that they pretty much had some juice, but they didn't really do do much

once they got to a certain status. But you could never slight the Mexican Games in competent um when it comes with Largo the Largos, you know, they were mainly in the county area north and so they were mainly but the Largos was you know, they were the ship the Great Streets of the Mexican side of the Great Streets. Uh. They you know people don't know this too. They got they called the south Side of the south Side. Yeah, I mean so and any names um for or let's say, well,

we didn't mention HollyHood part us. Well, but you know everybody knows. Uh, everybody knows. It's too many people in the name. But I'm gonna do it like this. And from but every for every hood in Comton you had, you you had a reputable from there. You have to. And you had a lot of cats that was with the business from HollyHood that just wasn't really like getting down. But when it was time to get out, they was out there. Uh. Robert Reagans was one. Uh when he

died eighty two, he was he was. He was a real cat. He was a real cat. And uh, it's it's it's at a lot of them. But my neighborhood, I mean where I used to live. I mean, you know neckbone uh uh. Wayne Bradford Loni Blood he was was was rest in peace. George Markham rest in peace country. Did I say neckbone? He didn't, but we talked about neck bone, Boomer. I mean we had we had so many uh shady Grady Juju uh c J. We said the majority of the hood was was with the business.

You know what I'm saying. Uh, Pierre wrest In PIEC played this part, but wasn't so daddy. Yeah, he was more Hollywood have run JP. JP was a fool in his days. You know, everybody had that. Everybody had their spotlight. James, did you ever run across Bartender and O g ot Bartender? He got killed in seventy five. He when Bartender got killed,

that's when everybody was starting to come out. Yeah, you know they when Bartender was out, that's when they had the headquarters and them dudes was doing their own thing, the older guys, and then I don't want to tell the story, but when he passed, I knew of his situation, you know what I'm saying, And uh, it was crazy and that that's one of the reasons why I say, you know, all of this ship that's happened in the

day was happening back then in them days. Homies killing homies uh, homies setting up homies, homies working with homie girlfriends. And the Bartender was like a legend with us growing up. Bartender was with them. Yeah he was, yeah him and uh, what's the name in the wheelchair? This go Danny. Uh that's how Danny got got well, he got he got shot with He was always at the gas station on

that's his name from from Los. I mean, if you'll ever been in at that list, which old Dog was one honey, and you know he was one of those slicks them talking his brothers. I think he's still over there. I don't know where. I think. I think because I know Danny, Danny. Danny was killed. Yeah, I got killed. But Old Dog was when you when you had your interview with Cynthia or whatever happening, Old Dog straight up solid like he got he got you doing it coming

from his wheelchair. Yeah taking Yeah, Brad feeling rose. They to that down. So there's a story behind Bartender that I guess we're not gonna go into. No, No, I know this was forty something, I mean, but still people, this this is why people talk about me because I'm quick to say whatever the funk I need to say, and I'm saying this to say, okay, something that would be spoke on something it's not. Uh. I learned back then not to speak on his situation, the situation that

he was in involved in. And you know, I don't will bring some gang experts. I don't let them talk about it. Yeah, Rick Baker, he'd been Rick Baker being on there. I thought talking on on on channel that I had pulled up Bartender's address and I thought it was weird where he lived where it's Santana blockhood. Now he didn't live in with Looters Park or what east side Parroue. He lived in what became Crip neighborhood. No, well, actually it was MS Street. He give the M Street,

which is like us. Well rock Chism used to live from you. But then when they moved over there in alms, like George Markham's backyard was Santana, And I know there had to be a bunch of Campanella's that was making noise back in then the west side. That's county area, I mean, that's Campanella's County. Yeah. You know what's interesting, A lot of people don't know a lot of people a lot of these sets claimed Compton aren't incomprem Yeah Dr Dre but you know he was over there, calla

Campanella's county. Campanella's county. The park. Compton is really l a wat Well willow Brook. I think it's county. It's great before you go to the pier court of problem. Yeah, what's so what's that little land between Compton and the project and the project and watch yeah that No, but it isn't that called like willow Brook. That's what Martin Luther Keene and all of that is. So all the hoods and willow Brook claim Compton. The dudes, uh remember

else god a hundred seven? What's the boys over there? Um not under You got Carver Carver? I think is um county? Awesome Carver. But they say Compton. Yea, everything about Centennial High School all the way till you get across the street from Elsa Gondo Compton and they and all those guys from back all the way to Rose class past, Uh, going into Carson, it's Compton. They claimed Compton Lantana which is de run right in the Compon, I mean the Corson and then there's ever the six

hood six Hood. That's what I thought. They just really saying sell Weed. They're not in Compton, but I always find it interesting about I don't know, this is about six or seven different sets, but you know, Carver is an old hood. It goes back even though it's not in Compton, it uh goes back to about nineteen seventies seventy one. They've been around Long Corner Parker. Um. We really didn't have too many internactions what they're over there.

And there's also I was just thinking of all the different Compton sets that are not in Compton, but they all have some gangsters in them. Oh yeah, definitely, they all definitely do. You won't survive if you don't have none nowhere, and especially in your hood. If your hood ain't got nobody with the business, it won't survive. How come Willowbrook don't got a representation like well you got to your Spook Towns Occasion block. It was really Occasion

which is right right behind it. Yeah, but they all everyone claims Compton crip. Nobody claims, but I ain't. Some railroad tracks and now in the Metro rail, but you got neighborhoods in that area. They split them because on one side of the track you got one gang and then you know, it's like you got Sentana on one side of the railroad track and then in treetop on the other side. Alright, you know Willowbrook where we Someone asked me, Uh, I guess this question was like, what

are some of the most reputables that I've interviewed? Um, you know, he did have the biggest game in Compton on which and I trying to think of some of the most reputable guys that I've interviewed. It's harder for me to think, Oh, I've interviewed Bear from eight nineties Coasts. He was a well known eight nine actually interviewed uh a Mexican mafia um Earnest Roy bou Kill Roy from White Fence. He was seventy five years old too. Oh yeah,

that's right. Actually, you know what, Craig Munson is probably the most reputable reputable street gangster that a boy white boy from Yah as a juvenile. Remember he was a fool at fourteen. A lot of guys wouldn't deal with the Munson's back then. They were at him. Seven brothers, man, the one you gotta worried about it is is uh Craig and Teddy Teddy Teddy like I said he to be do his pimp thing, but he was with the business like mother, You're knock your head though. But then

the younger one, runt rest in peace. He was yeah, monster, yeah, And I was just surprised to find out you actually had a relationship with Yeah, my best friend Street uh No, brothers del Dog and his his brother Mike and Mike Mike, Mike Yeah, Mike Preacher, Yeah, he ap preach once the year my pastor, and then got a good relationship Ice. Mike is a good brother. Man. Now, I'm gonna say that the Munson family is probably the most reputable street

guys in the history of Los Angeles, for real. And right in that same alley where if you're going the alley over there, Buddy House, right when you crossed the alley to come into the other part there is eighty one. You had a guy over there name Bubble. My uncle was in town. Now, Man, you got a meeting one that we're talking about a couple of weeks ago, Saturday. But I'm gonna give you his number so you can talk to him. You get a lot from you. But Bubba was one of the coldest cats I ever knew.

He was uh, what's up? Holy smile at you and that night he's gonna take yours. George ain't got nothing on him. Bub we're doing life right now. But it was a lot of guys over there. Man that was really with the with the business. Um uh. It was the swan cat over there named Baby too cool was with the business. And I was a youngster growing up being over there, and he used to get him cast

the blues. I'm talking about hit niggers with shovels. He was. Yeah, he was with the business from love b over there. He had a brother, both him and killed tweet Tweetie tweet tweeter and b l oh my god. They they put stuff on bo Now. I interviewed Teddy Munson. It's an interview that no one's ever seen because I never posted it. But in the interview, he tells me that my older brother Craig was a monster that had sense. But he said, my little brother Run he was a monster.

But sometimes his stuff just does not make sense and I couldn't control him anymore. I can tell you about run. Rug was like this, if we're friends, we're friends. If we ain't and I hear you feel otherwise, I'm gonna stand right next to you and I'm gonna knock you the funk out and run I got a reputation in kitchen cripp hood knocking niggers out. Just one here to quitter. He was a big guy. I say, Run was about six five straight. I'm talking about athlete. Didn't do no athletics,

ship whatsoever, but had the body of it. You couldn't You couldn't touch him. He was solid and and good people. But if you didn't wrong he was, he would It didn't matter. You can't talking about the ship. You couldn't tell him know that ain't cool. You couldn't talking about the ship. Man. He's the only brother that was murdered. Yeah, exactly. He was killed by the Swans. So and I don't want to forget my boy Ray mcgowand and then from the Bunny Hunters and r name McGowan. Yeah, I was

just thinking of people that that Bonny Hunt rat. You know my relative to meet you boys. Man. I got man well, you know outside His first learning of Bounty Hunter is a death row video for the people who aren't from kell FTV. Yeah, I heard in that video that uh that they dragged sugar into the bathroom and had some words for him. But I was at there. You was actually there. I was there standing next me

and my og hummy waltsing big walk. And what happened was Bunny had a rat and green Eyes walked up to it. But when I seen green Eyes walking toward him, I already know, hold of homie, I can't let you do that. He said. No, No, I ain't what you think. I said, Bunny rats and Bunny? How the hi? No? I got him? What I need to holidight? This came just business. Where's Bunny right now? Yeah? So you shouldn't even did that. You shouldn't even did that, man, that dude,

what boy like that? Should So anyway, when Bett said I want to highlight him, should already know I got him. I got two pisces on me. Bunny had the rat, got thirteen fourteen year old, catch all of them pistoled up. So when him in, green Eyes saying, we gotta we gotta get at it because already money is being took it from him to give it to Harryoll. He'd been paying his debt or what the old or whatever HARRYO wanted. This is my goons, nigger they here, so he knew

what was going on. So I'm not gonna let y'all take him in his bathroom. So walks that hold up Homie, Bunnie, Huda, Rat don't know walk. So he looked at what like, we can do something. Now hold up Rat. So shocks and no, no to me, I got it. I'm going there. Are you serious? Are you? Are you sure? And he said yeah, I'll be on the minute. So I backed up and said, told Rat, just them two in the bathroom. Shoot Bunnie, Honna, Rat and greenout three them three. So

me and walk stood right there. No, Bob got he didn't go in there. Okay, I was there and when when that happened, wasn't there? No, I didn't say he went that the shoot. He wouldn't in that room in the bathroom. This for sure, I know that act walking, But wasn't it wasn't a little upset that that the homies is pressing sugar and they're trying to get their career and explained something. The little homies came funk with the big homies. They came funk with the big homies.

Bonnie Hunda Rat was a big homie. I mean they was they had to press her on as if if you don't you already know what I'm talking about. It's been times where rating them come to the goddamn office and motherfucker's just slide that ship in no conversation that they should get their package off the table and leave package of money, no conversation whatsoever. So don't run man, my niggarressing peage. Don't y'all don't do him like that.

He was with the business, and sul knew he was a soldier, and he when he saw a Bonnie Hanna rat straighten that shut up, and he did what you have to do. I ain't gonna sugar coach for sugar. He paid his way, and he knew he had to pay. He knew he owed those guys, So when he saw those faces, he already knew what the situation was. So doing that video and there I thought they was finning doing like on some real ship. And and that was the atmosphere. That was the whole feeling act walk I

ain't got it felt fucked up. And that's why one of my reasons for not wanting Shill to go in there. You know what I'm saying, now, Thank you we're in the projects. It's folteing. It's all the little boys out there, got guns, babies, and if you look at that video, there's at least a hundred bloods out and and and they was all packing. We just got killed because close together. But man, but that wouldn't have been worth it. That that was the bief that that has nothing to do

with us, you know what I'm saying. That's a money proposition that that man made with another person. And and now you don't want to, you know, do what you have to do. That ain't our business. That ain't our fight. So that was one fight should have had to deal with, you know what I'm saying, Like with the with the goddamn rams, this is the fight you gotta deal with. Why are we fighting for? For your Bluis ship? So it was ratting green Eyes there on behalf of Harry.

Oh kind of on their own thing. Always suspect that their own thing or they was there for. They was there, uh for Harry. I didn't want to say that ship, but yeah, I mean, what other reason why they be there? What they be there? They're not just extorting money from should First it started off, boys said come holl let

you it manly. Was David Kenner too. David. We was at the office one day and they came up to the office and for those who don't know, we're talking about the video call track them by O. F. TB. It's one of the hardest videos that you know, shows the gang culture and shot in the Nicholson Gardens housing

projects back in the early nineties. But go ahead, Reggie, and they came and they got on the uh they was kipt napping David Kinner off the elevator and they all about five of them, and we were just so happened getting in the elevator coming off the elevator and they had David Kinner on the elevators, about seven or eight of us coming and we got on the elevator and they just walked and they just kept walking. David Kinner state on the elevator and David Kinner was like,

thank you guys, thank you guys. Y'all just save my life. But that was that was just one of the moves that he made. That was a move by him now thinking that Okay, I can't be touched by this cat. That's any one of us. I got you, What can you do? To me from where you stand, you know, and that's being in prison for the rest of your life. So you feel you good? Now you bring everybody else into your bullshit because this person has friends, goons. I

get it. If you're paying me good, I'm we we're going, and that's with anybody in the hood, big homie. The homies got a problem, and it's it's concerning money. Let's roll. But I'm suretb Upset was loan, know what I'm saying. That was the situation that they could not even get involved in unless it turned into something that day, you know what I'm saying, Just like me personally. The only reason why I spoke on it is because I didn't want them to do ship and I wouldn't feel let

it happen like that, you know what I'm saying. But I was as sure Schuk said, I got it, I'm going here and let me talk to him real quick, but looking at me like, you know what I'm saying. So when he said that, okay, I'm already knowing what you're going in their fault. I know what they're talking about. You've been dodging the phone calls, you ain't been sitting at that package like it's supposed to be. Nigger was adding, so now we gotta come see you type of ship.

So then why would he even show up at that video shoot if he knew he was gonna get pressed because everybody else is there and at that time he just got caught slipping. I mean, if I'm sure, I'm saying to myself, I know green Eyes and rat gonna be there, me I really want to show up. The Shio doesn't have to be there. Ask this question. SiO can took his way out of a motherfucking if it's a tornado finner hit. If he had pointed his hands and tell you to get in front of the motherfucker

posting him. Him and rat had they working relationship, but that way basically he was giving the money. He had a working relationship, They had a working relationship. They had a working relationship, and I guess he figured that everything would be all good. So what actually happened in the bathroom they put hands on him and was just conversation. They worked it out and Ratnam came to the office after after that, and and she continued to be what it was and then um Rad was Rad got killed

and then after that. Yeah, after that, So the rumors that should got beat up in the bathroom not true. He didn't give me the know, No, he came close, didn't get dragged into the bathroom. They all walked in there together. Na, she didn't had niggas with him that was ready to do whatever. They wasn't gonna kill because we didn't have to. Wen't have we had deep how deep with the parrous that day? Y'all aren't deeper than the bounty hunters us. But everybody would spread it out,

you know what I'm saying. And uh, you know, motherfucker's walking around smoking their weed and doing all of this, and that that was the day of not drinking. That was the day of no smoking weed. To to mind what I think. Because ship, we don't have previous party nights over there and the projects and and one body had walked up to my home boy. Well, well this nicker name Drew and just said can I get uh sip of that eight ball? And he gave him a simple ship and he's like, damn this ship good and

walked away with the bottle. Now do I kill us nigga for taking my for the house or do I just let him have the motherfucking let him have it. Let him have it, because they're ready here in the projects. So that's one neighborhood you don't want to go mingling because they ain't got no it's no who's board and you start running around in no projects, I don't know where if you feel like killing somebody in the projects

about I think l APD actually has um. Yeah they have a pass to shoot anyone they want in there. Oh yeah, they have the most officer involved. There's more. And maybe the police make them crazy. It's a it's a two way relationship. I know one thing. The police just don't go in there beating yours. They go in there,

they ain't watching that, they ain't let go. What would make what would make people get on the roots of the projects and start shooting black and white while their crews through there just because they're crazy or that there's a relationship in that area that has made them crazy. I know the police go on their cracking heads, and that's one of the reasons why they do with that. When they go they go right, let them go. They gotta shoot first policy in the Nickolson Gardens and it

goes back the stand first A long time. You know what, someone should actually do a documentary on how many unarmed people been shot and killed in the Nickerson Garden housing projects. I chased some guys in the Nickerson from Compton one time. All the way in there. The guy that killed one of my good friends Compton cops named Kevin Barrell, REJ Thomas. He killed two cops traffic stop boom boom and Kevin Barrell.

How does the one guy gun down two cops in the traffic stop because cops, some cops are scared now. He had him, he had him on, he had him on the on the car and Kevin mr gun well with the searching he pushed got Kevin real quick. The other cop, I believe. Let me just say this from a cop field. Don't get mad. What's going to retreat? Froze up any card? You know. He was a reserve. He was his actually his last day of working for

Confident as a reserve. He was on his way to the San Jose Police Department as a regular last day. Red Just Thomas, that's just houmas. And he was convicted of killing both officer Kevin Burrell and James McDonald's that's what shock meet. But James McDonald was the big white boy, right. Yeah, he was a big old Kevin Police station. He was one of the kids who grew up and play basketball with Gilly Davis. And then I'm not coming comfortable. My last question on this is o FTB never put out

an album under Death Row. They always appeared on soundtracks after soundtrack after soundtrack. One soundtrack, I think was it just one? I think they didn't. They didn't even make the Well, I think they on the cassette. They made the Murder the Case, So why didn't they get pushed harder? Whatever happened to their career as a group. That was probably the realist gangsters that ever signed the Death Row. Come on, tell me who did get put out on Death Roll. Just a handful of folks exactly. Orb was

actually one of buntry manager. He managed them they're gonna be put out. If if they got put out, it was gonna be on ghetto records. Most people don't know the Sugar created a secondary label for for for the Homies. But I'm sure if TB thought were we got an album coming out? So yeah, were only that's why they're here. An album they never got. They never put it out, never to put out? Who did you know? Lady and

Rage eventually got something put out? But other than Rage, who did other than the ass you know, the dog pound Snoop bor or pop? Did Danny Boy put it on out? Never? Never? Danny Boy was pretty much on everybody ship, but he didn't even get paid for that. Oh my god, Oh my god, the middle back. Hold on, hold on, let me go back to interview. Okay, that's shop an album out. This man will had a living in Britain, wood in a condo, had a personal assistant.

Uh is that the kind of music career you want to have just being on the bunchtually guy put out? Did you hear all type of artists telling YouTube took me ten years, five years to get an album out. That was a step. Death Row went to went to president and then everything had to get re everything. It didn't stop. It didn't stop but stuff and he because people didn't have the patience and they started acting on acting funny and all right, since we're talking about death Row,

we got another question. Who on death Row was the most opposite of what they portrayed. And let's say, regardless of they put an album out or not just one who was signed a death Row who was doing music with death Row, who goes who was opposite of the image that they portrayed the most? Well, what kind of image did he portray that he was? He wasn't that he was had what is it sexual? Oh well, I don't think that's with you know what. You know he

was writing, he was writing love song. You know, this show was nothing to be about talking about my god. That man, that's some ship you just go around. I think the question had to do it more about the image. It's a st a street image, a non street image, you know. You like, Well, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Snoop and and and and I don't want abody

to take this role. I just think Schnoop wasn't like really affiliated, like really into the gang's deep like he said he was, or how he patrolled like you just you know this, Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I don't I don't believe he was like that. I think he got more of a soft design than that that. I gotta be this tough crip kind of kind of do.

Whether it was crip or blood, it don't matter. I don't think he had it any It was him like like he said, he like he said he is and and you know, I think trying to try to play both parts and trying to be this type of person got him in trouble a little bit, you know, because you can't you run around all day trying to be this tough as cat. At the end of the day, somebody gonna test that ass. When that ass get tested you, it's a must that you be ready for it. If not,

your asses out, just like going to penitentiary. If you get funk one time and and seem c and wind up and FoST him, motherfucker's gonna know you've been fucked. It gets there that quick. And just imagine this bullshit and all the little ship that he didn't his encounters. He didn't ran into certain cash I'm hearing he didn't got hit or he ran from Trayvon, Uh some other bullshit. Come on, man, that ain't no that ain't no gamester man,

that ain't no gagster. He told me about when Trayvon got socked him at the Universal amples what you're talking about. But ship like that, that type of roll straight to the police with marijuana and pocket. Yeah, you basically he was about to snitch on Trayvon. It was about your saying he was about to snitch an well he did, actually did. He told the cop acting and saying who killed? Who killed? Um Tupac? This is what the cop acting And he said, oh, the person sitting next to him,

who's your that Snoop? Oh maybe that's lying because that's not true. Well, who was he lying on? Trayvon? He was saying, is that next doing? Well, you know that's because he was not. He wasn't lying. His money paid for us for two pucks to get killed? No, not you? Thank you everybody up. I basically, what are they gonna put that? Hell, you're gonna be all on the jay mob? James say, super paid for two to get killed? No plea. He didn't say that, y'all. I didn't say that, all right.

So so Snoop was one of those guys that represented an image that that that wasn't that really wasn't happy. Let me let me ask the reverse of this question. Who was the realist street cats that were artists at Death Throw? I think I think Corrupt was was more

solid than all of them. I don't Corrupt was more stand up to me when I seen't corrupt than uh those other guys there when the niggas was crying for for protection and help after the niggas, after that stuff happened that they al ray, So I would say that trade. He is probably one of the real street cats that I know. He wasn't signed to death Row, right, but he worked with cats up there. We sat were cool, they were solid. I never ran into him, Yeah, but

they were solid. They're not like they portrayed. They're not like I d end up having to do some time in prison for shooting it. But yeah, actingly what he was on when he did that, What do you mean You're talking about under the influence, So that don't make it for games. I mean most people, well ever since the sixties, people used to take red devils before they putting their work. Now it's uh, well most dudes get

drunk and not. But I'm just saying he was and he shot that knew who just explained to me what's was about. He knew what he was used to pushing up on. He didn't think that he would go to Diamond Bar police or the l County shars and follow report against me. Now I'm interest didn't know. Why do you think James, Why don't think corrupt was solid? What did you see? Just just the way he walked this way,

I thought by him he was more to himself. He wouldn't really like trying to be improved to all these bloods that he was with it. He didn't know extras on. No, he didn't have to do that, you know what I'm saying. Sometimes Snoop was always the to one guy. You know what I'm saying. Just because you're a crimp, just because you're blood, don't mean you have to say blood before you finish your sentence. Yeah, cousin and you know cousin, Yeah, cousin and and we which caling like that. Cuse what

are you talking about? None of the artists was like or built the way they were. Even Shoo Shoot Shoot Ship was an actor. He perpetrated. I don't be honest. You know he learned he had to do with him. That was his backup. He started claiming mob when he got back from college when he was three years old. And I really do say I take the blame for it. It is my fault. It's my fault for bringing sugar. Now should living in the hood and everybody getting twisted. When Shoard came to me when I got out of

prison and I introduced shoot people, he didn't know. And that's what God should should took it up on the shelf to start mingling and and and dealing with other people and saying what he can do and what are he's gonna do? But you knew shook from before then, but your brother didn't know shook from before then. No,

no sho. That's how storycles and school Linwood. But let me just say this about you should who had Ronald Donald his cousins, the twins with thes and so they were big who at Lynwood, which was kind of a nice school. And that's why we didn't go to the mingus. We went to the nicer school and was playing football and stuff like that. But they weren't no punks on that campus. The Knights did have to start at Lanwood, and and Ronald and Donald used to fix that ship.

Ron and don we gotta You got the Knights and then you got the Jackson's. Remember the twins and Donald Donald johns all was with the business. But even even should so by introducing shig all these bloods, he was just like what the fuck? You know what I'm saying, he was blown away. Should wasn't wearing red suits and and and all his other ship. He wasn't doing that. He was more and so mom saying he wasn't on

the game bang and expect. But he still had a little size on him and he would he would be the mouth Era one and but he did have his back up with his cousins and then took advantage of the situation. Okay, I got all these motherfucker's. Now I can recruit other motherfucker's, but you got the best of

the best. When when Juju and Buntry and and neck Bone and the weakest link is Traybone, when you got all these motherfucking hitters and all these kinds coming that I ain't gonna say Trayvon ain't gonna do what you have to do. But now should feel like, okay, I can be this person. So they turned into a goddamn You had the crew and and and and and then he got exposed once he lost his crew and no

district never lanes and all of them. But that's who he started hanging with, and he was promising that stuff, and they were thinking, Okay, he's gonna make us this or he's gonna put this album out for us, and he's gonna do this. And then they started falling off,

and you know, and he'll go. And that's why at the end he was running around with different but the pyrou members and not anybody from the hood should got caught up in at the And that's why he got knocked out by the barber, or that's why he got knocked out by uh that boy, uh the guy at in Super Bowl. Um, goddamn, Like I said, if you don't have a playing B. If you if you're gonna be a fucking thug and you're talking all this ship talking all this ship and and and people tire of

that ship. Now, now you gotta prove yourself to me, which what it should be now, playing B. If you don't got playing B, you're gonna get your ass whooped. Now you ain't number of ship talking, you're running your mouth. Fuck you, you you ain't gonna do nothing. So that's what happened to Shig. At the end of the day, your your your status is gone, all these guys is gone. All you have to do is look to your side. And motherfucker's just taking off on people. You know what

I'm saying, you don't have to fight. You're not gonna never lose the fight. When you got fifteen niggas beating the ship out of one nigga and you jump in, you're not gonna lose. But should has sucks motherfucker's But goddamn, I'm not gonna fight you back all these motherfucker's but

motherfucker's in Vegas. I wonder if took a fair faith one on one head up somebody we had to fight with the Rams, and sheild came all the way inside the goddamn clubhouse, Roxberry who was at and got everybody called, everybody told everybody it was on. And there was one guy from the RAMS that he didn't like when he was trying out for the Rams, and dude was out

there talking ship to him. That's why you didn't make the team to cut the wood the woof and then stretched his Uh was that a band's the Pink One Future stretched that motherfucker with his key and she didn't do ship. Why are you coming to get us? And this dude did this to you in your face right there. I just took off on his motherfucking ass. He ran

in there and got all of us. Now we come all these other motherfuckers start getting out their car, standing up like I'm looking like, what the funk look at this dude neck. I mean, they were some big bump so he was actually a play. You're on the rams. Yeah, all of them was tea or whatever. They at Roxbury and uh and uh, after it was all over because we was whooping their ass. We was whooping their ass. They did. I betually they don't want to fight no

more because we whipped their ass. And uh, we were standing on cars kicking them upside the head and ship. They were just so tall, big motherfuckers sucking them up and h. After it was all over, we asked you what the fund was going on and he said, this motherfucker stretched my car and the broad that was standing there with the Rams was like, no. He called you whoo the woo whoo motherfucker and stretched your car and your face and asked you what the funk you want

to do? And you left pretty much ran from the situation and came and got us. But fucking that the at the dude then got out of the car and stood over there by the whole boy. Okay, now that's on. This is the This is the gesture, y'all. Just this is saying like, fuck you nikas, let's go and ship we took off to you guys basically had like a little rumble. We beat the ship out the rams. So that's something that Shou should have just handled one on one with that was a situation. So you guys came

in with misinformation. Yeah, well he never told us what was going on. But these motherfucker's out here tripping. So after the whole thing was over, because one of the twins that was the only one that went to jail, and he only went to jail because he was still beating the ship out to motherfucker in the street, kicking him up on the goddamn car and the police rolled up. But Ship, he was at the goddamn uh office before

we made it fast. He was out that fast. So by Shook doing what he what what what he did, should should have handled his motherucking business as a man. But he couldn't do that because everything else was fake titious. His whole getting down was a joke. But now you've been exposed at that point by this one dude. So that's what I say, everybody ain't built for that ship. You can play it, but everybody ain't built for it,

and don't nobody. Everybody don't have a player b So any other characters at Death Row that portrayed themselves one way but we're really another way. We mentioned Snoop Sugar, You're I didn't deal with and they don't have to be no street stuff because for example, we all know Michelle A story. But when I was young listening to Michelle A, she came off as the most innocent, nice,

friendly singer. And then when you know, as we learned stuff, I'm like, wow, you know that she got caught up in but she was a drunk um, but she you know, she was just like everybody else doing what they're doing to try to get a check. And so that's all I mean. Later um, as far as I mean, because she slept with with everybody, are are the guys that

she did sleep with? Jillian Sugar, I mean everybody who they ain't with us who goes down as the realist artist, the real the most solid, the most realist, the most sincere, honest person that ever came associated themselves with the label. I don't know that that was associated with the label, but was cool. It was it was it was what it for a minute, Um, I'm not gonna say none of and and eight the super Fest, that was the

coolest dude I ever met. And and the reason why I say that is he was performing, had to perform, and it was a situation between the New York Cats out there and the police, and he came out. I

had my Homeboys show both working at the time. It was guys in the in the concert snatch and chains and doing all his other ship, but the police was about to beat the ship out these guys my boys show bol picked the motherfucker up on his neck and was walking his dude all the way down the stairs, just took him from the police and just motherfucking woo woof hold of him and uh Komo d came over. There was like, damn, what the fund is going on here?

That was the coolest cat and just having the small conversations. You can see he was with it. He was with it, but he was and his brother was there and he was just a cool motherfucker. I the most the other ones I've been. He didn't funk. And then talk you know of late as an artist. I just want to go back to the artist of late who seems to be like that, and people are gonna be shocked at I said it was that dash of late, not when

he was younger, but of late. Daths been. Um, he's been out there doing whatever he needs to be doing. I will say, da pure. Even though he told he told a fake story about masters, Yeah, that's just that. But I'm saying that's I'm saying yeah, yeah, I mean he don't know the Latin Masters or all of that. I mean, I don't know what he had, but we took it back from his wife. But you know that ask me out there. You know, I like I like Das even though Dad's always talking about me still like that.

I can't think of an artist that was that was about about it, because that's the second part of the question you asked, right, I can't think of an artist. Quick was definitely fake. Um, Quick was fake. Now I'm gonna defend Quick Man. We went to quick house three in the morning. He was scared shaking. I mean, he's a knocked under. Me and tray Bone the two softest ones on the It don't matter, man, You're you're drilling in when you're about to feel like you're in the occucation. Man.

You're gonna start shaking anyway when you because you're you. You pumped up now and you feel the butterflies and all that ship because you know something that happened. Now He did bounce up and came up with at the office the next day. When I said, I've never known him for being in this shood to be no bitch asking me personally, actually me and mass around you should hang over that way. He didn't. He want him and Dred didn't like the drama. That's one thing I can

say about him. They didn't like. They didn't like that. They didn't like that, and trying to be a bully with everything and everybody. Now he slapped his bodyguard because she still told him, you need to discipline anymore. I won't do it for bringing a gun on on the road. Let me slap this niggah. I got so yeah, So he did that. Ain't not wrong with that. He fired on Zelli for from HollyHood. Remember Zell, because because they found out that he took All Eyes on the album

up to Uh to the Car. Washington was up there selling it to Melvin And now and untouchable sounds. I don't know, I don't know. That's that's that's a hard questions. Where's a lot of guys out there that portrayed which is cool. I mean these guys trying to make money, they really are artists really yeah, yeah, it's entertainment. Yeah

and me artists have different talents. Okay, But but but when you do that, when you do that and you have there rapping and you you're portraying this gangs, motherfucker, you gotta think people are looking at that, kids are looking at that, and they believe in this ship, so they started acting that way. Don't portray nothing that you're not because at the end of the day, your ass gonna be in the real world and you're gonna get

your songs. You know, most of America thought or thinks that Ice Cube was the biggest gangster in Los Angeles to the music. I don't think he gang bang a day in his life. I heard Cast say, you ain't from You ain't from neighborhood sixties. You never was. I heard Cast say that about ice Q. She grew up in one eleven. Now, when I heard you and you told him you ain't from sixties from neighborhood. Probably don't want to be I'm just saying, I guess ice iced

t was closed, That's what. I don't know where I c Yeah, no, I don't know if he's from one eleven, but he historically you could say he's the biggest most successful gangster rapper, one of the most successful for someone that never gang bang. Okay, you made money once again, these guys made money off of being Would you say Ice Cube glorified gangs or was he just trying to tell us a story and and educate us? Once they realized game banging, ship sale, Compton sales, and then and

and and they start making money off of it. Why not? Why not do it? But they were doing it when it wasn't popular. They started off THEYD be popular. Yeah, but they didn't know that it was gonna make them millions of dollars. You think easy, We're about to make and start saying fun the police and then ship started happening. They had a vision. I think they became more successful than they ever envisioned. I probably show but come on, we ain't. And they were doing something that no one

else had had been doing. Come on, we ain't thugs. We ain't game bangers. We're not game bangers. We can't get in here and say, yeah, I culled, this is a game banger. I killed for my hood, I robbed for my hood. I beat nicks up from my hood. These dudes at out there saying that they did that ship. They did that ship. If you, if you, and then I don't know why they ain't. Oh man, this is this is crazy. Those are not game bankers. Man, those

are guys. Just just call it studio games. But when you think about it, there's not one successful what successful rapper was a real gang member. Yeah it's not. I don't think you can name. Then somebody from the left boll go to jail for killing somebody or something. I don't know. Most of the most of your commercially successful

rappers were never in a gang or gang bang. I mean, Trade d is probably one of the realist one, but he was not nowhere nearly successful Snoop and ice Cube, just like he was saying will Smith, So it works. Not being a game banker, his rap works. So why don't them dudes opposed to sitting out here for trying

to goddamn c before Hendrick Lamar and j Cole. Yeah, Steph playing the c before the game and ship you know, motherfucker you can put on a wig, Jerry curl glasses, the cups of hats and going out there and stoke. I think the more real gangster you are, the harder it is gonna be for you to be successful as a rapper, because look at the ones that have made have achieved commercial success. No, the reason why they don't

make it is because they overdo it. It just took Sugar a little more time to fall off, because I got your point. Like ce Bowl, who I think is real maybe realm from up there and he wrapped the realist dependent level. But I I think you have to be somebody else who we thought was tight and he's running for city council now, so he showed that he's not. Yeah, so I get your point. I don't know, I get both of your point right, all right, guys. I want

to thank the two people who submitted those questions. Uh, that would be Season Mug and Jordan's And I want to thank everyone for listening to another edition of The Gangster Chronicles. Please make sure you rate and review if you're listening on iTunes, and thanks for joining us again, pace Out. This has been a digital soapbuts network production.