When They See Us Part 2

buil on that side to understand that type of ship. Okay. But but then two days later my parents come on, I get some attorneys or whatever. When I get some attorneys now, but say we like fourteen years old, the police couldn't work with me unless my mama was in there. I stayed in Lost Madrinas. I don't know. I know that mother. I'm fifty some years old, and I know Lost Virginia's addressed by heart. Seventy two eighty five, Queil

drive down the calipoint. I know it by heart. Every time I messed up and winning there that that's where they sent me, just because man, they gotta wait a minute, you knew that, because that if you don't know, then you're still going. Well, you just said one of them is a little slower. But the way they signed the system, man, and the way some of these police get down reds is wrong. And then they sent him people to jail for nothing. It's a lot of people getting down to jail.

But but that wasn't and that's a minute. Shouldn't it also be a good thing? On the flip side, if y'all wrongly convicted me, shouldn't I be paid for doing they? I mean, like one of like, shouldn't you can't pay me no amount of money for the time that I had to do and what I had to go through being in Riker's Island and all of that. He says, no money, But yeah, they up, but all of that they went through, shouldn't shouldn't they have to face the

same ship. I mean, I'm creating and lying and falsifying it from make you should go to But if I'm sitting here and I'm doing what I think it's my job, by keep badgering woo woo woo woo, Badgrien James badgerom and then you finally go and Okay, that's just like, is it rape if I'm trying to get some pussy from this chick and she couldn't tell me no, no, no, no, no no, and I keep it. Come over, Come on, baby,

come on baby. I don't think the woman was This was early late nineties and the victim, her name is Tricia Mellie Maine. Did they get a lineup on these kids? And she said, that's all up, that's the I don't I don't think that's the way it went down because she was beating they Donald Trumping all day and they were putting out ship Donald Trump is involved. Donald Trump back back in the day when on television and said, whoever did this? Our animals did an add on it.

But my point is the prosecutor that's why she getting kept in so much till she pretty much told go through Harlem or or one of those areas and pick up everybody body, all black. They mean, this was a high profile thing, and they were exactly and they were just satisfied with arresting someone, not just arresting who was really guilty of it. And that's the code thing about being if you know they're not guilty, but you you

fight hard to send. But eventually, if if they wouldn't enough, and I understand what you're saying about the age and the peer pressure stuff, but if they wouldn't have eventually unfortunately UH copped out to it, then they would have never been convicted. Now I would take that if this was nineteen and up five year old cats. But we're talking about fourteen year old young men. One sixteen child, Tomas an adult. Now I'm just think going to rikers

out in at sixteen, you pretty much pussy. You don't ruin my life, this lady. Those police officers ruined them kids, absolutely took their life, ruined them, and then they polices or something. I can see if they created I'm one of those. One of the things that they did was they wrote statements and made them sign it to that's not fair. I gotta watch this. I don't watch the show, read up on it because documentary. I mean, I didn't watch them, and I think I'll see it from us all.

I mean, they can continue this one because I really want to see you, I mean, Lord and mercy man, because every guy that ever went to jail, know, every guy that's been s in that room back in the day, is when they used to give you a cigarette. You want some coffee, you want some chips. And then right after that, if you ain't talking, you got your ass whopped in there. You got your ass whipped in there.

And they can do it how they want to do it, because motherfucker's like us, don't know the long and they ain't gonna talk and ain't gonna say ship. You only got that maybe pent of officers that coming there. That's right, like your dad that come in there and say, I know you're sucked up. Just to men, you funked up. Let's get it over with. Don't come in there with no bullshit. If you didn't do it, don't come to it. Goddamn thing you didn't do. That's how Ready you said.

And he walked out. You don't see Reggie, no motherfucking more. You'll be playing. Call your call Redge when you was jailer, called Redge, Tell Edge you want to talk to him. No, I didn't told you what I had to tell you, and that's it. Unfortunately, this is the bad thing and stuff because everybody's always holler we wanna talk to Ready, we wanna talk to Reggy, we wanna talk to Ready, And no, assholes and and you know, so we had problems to Oh he got arrested for me lesson and

his daughter yesterday. He ain't no comp no more. You know, we have to go through ship like that. Mother's cos do that. But I never went through that. Yeah, they say stupid ship like that, you know, to try to I mean, you know, I think everybody if you hold civilians accountable for crimes, for murder or whatever, just because I have a badge and I killed somebody, now I'm I'm I should be a civilian. You should go to jail for this ship if you I agree with you. Women,

let me clear it up. But I don't want to come across that. If that's how the situation went down, I totally agree with y'all. It's just if if if I'm pressing you and doing my job because I'm seeing this victim, this lady, that then all of this, this this doesn't happened to and I'm picturing her as my sister, my mother and all of that, I'm gonna do everything in my power to try. Who gets you to turn I watched? Does that means? That means you have to

assume that the people in this room are guilty. You gotta assume they're guilty in my mind that you should try to find out. The goal is to find out if they're guilty. But the way that the interrogation seems to have one office Day already assumed right off the bat that these four black boys and then one Puerto Rican kid were guilty from the beginning and then sometimes but they committed the most of America does not understand how did five people that are not guilty of this

crime end up in prison? And to me, it's they copped out to it. I wouldn't say they copped out. They were pressured. They were pressured to make statements that were untrue just to satisfy the detectives questions. And they didn't have to say no more. They get at you the d A and then the d A once they copped out. But that's what at the beginning of this this podcast, what did I say, shut the funk up?

You don't learn anything else. I wish I could get somebody high profile, which Johnny shut the How don't learned anything else from me anymore? You get in the box, Shut the bunk up, explained to the cops. If he was in my position, we're talking about. I don't care how silent. Yes, yes, I teach my kids that, but you're not built. And even my kids, well, um, my kid was in a high school situation where they told him right what happened, and he actually did after I

taught him, never write what happened. And I said, why did you write what happened? And they said, well, the guy told me that if if I don't write what happened, they're gonna call school police and make it a police matter. But if I write what happened, we'll just keep an internal within the school manipulation game. You know, it was a little arson that a trash can was on fire, So I told my son, you fell for the oaky dough. But still you know, but at that point, and he

was fifteen and and he was afraid the consequences. That's what these kids don't understand. The day, the consequences. If they knew that they were going to prison for twenty years, if they open their mom maybe they would have been reluctant. But they don't know that, not that they thought they were going home. They just want to go home. And you cannot give promises right a wrong yesterday you can trick people, but um, you can people. Yeah, you can.

You can do with ruses. It's been supported by the Supreme Court. But you can't offer false promises, but you can use people. You can ruse people. James, James told me, y'all did it, but you can't say if you tell me the truth, what happened? You know what. They still use that right now today, And a lot of these cats on the street don't understand that what James just told me, y'all just shot at him. If somebody told me you shot at the cat, all they have to

take is one names the streets. They got something called I got down first. No, no, But the thing is, all these guys get out first. We won't get down first. A lot of us don't know that, don't know the loss. But then here we go. You know, you're quick to blame somebody else because the police told you, woot the whoof this? And that happened? The police said this, so you go home. This is how they destroyed half of the real thug cats out there is if you got a dirty name, you ain't no good. If you if

what you say day and you said yeah something. A lot of cats have been disrespected has has been been. Your homies said, y'all shot woo the whoop up. You know what I'm saying. Your homies is the one that's told me and he said you had a wood the whoop. Y'all already know what kind of girls using the homicide. So now okay, the homies said, Now the first thing we do is get on the phone Rick Toley and

motherfucker's whoo whoa. This is infamou They knew already, just like really said at the beginning, shut the funk up. If the police don't have nothing to write, are tight, they can't take the d A nothing but this right here, a blank sheet of paper. Now in the d A gotta work. I don't. I don't. I'll sit and watch forty eight I watched forty eight hours probably once or twice a day, you know when I'm board, not doing anything, doing the cookies and coffee, and I swear I sit

and see. Guys, I have seen so many cases made where the right out of there where they just told on themselves. I'd be like those cops are on their best behavior on the first forty because it's a TV show. Guys in positions like that how much side Cops in positions like that are generally the cream of the crops. I have no problem with the way those detectives on

first forty eight do their job. And the detectives on this case cops and you guys in the soft uniforms, not the ones in the suits and all of that, but the ones in that that was a little there's here's a great technique that cops do. They'll be sitting across from you asking and then they'll do this one that come over you Come on, man, you got a family, think about your family. They come sit, they come move over right next to you. It's all psychological. It's a game,

you know. But here's the here's the problem that I have with something you said. You said they copped to it. How can you cop to something that you know nothing about? I think I changed the word after I say cop to Uh, it was forced or something. You can't cop to something you know nothing about. Yeah, correct, But they said they admitted to something. They repeated the same the stuff that the detectives were saying. But those detectives have to be smart enough to say, you know what, this

guy is actually just repeating what we're just saying. But when you're trying to make a case and all of that high profile case like that, I can see the pressure and they wanted the people. But the good thing about it, most people don't know, uh, because what happened was, uh, Corey Corey Wise met up with Matt Matthews Rees in prison in jail, and that was a good thing because he was he was the only one that went to adult prison and mattheis Rees was in an adult prison.

And somehow they convinced the Elmar you know, to tell the truth, and they ran his DNA and found out that his DNA matched the victims. That's how they were not guilty. There should be some accountability though, on those detectives and the prosecutor. The prosecutor she catching him, but that's nothing. I mean, she already wrote thirty but she was told actually wasn't. You can say her whole case

was alive. But she didn't. She reported, she reported what Yeah, but that's just like would be to be in a position such all the time rejected that case. According to her, she didn't know. Of course, she's gonna say she didn't know that. She just said, hey, this is what the law enforcement gave me. This is what I had to deal with because he catching a lot of help work with the dean, So I got to investigate more. Why she's oh, they all work together together, but they're not going.

But they don't want their mom lying. They don't. They don't generally want that. UM. I think cases like that, I think a lot of should be So what makes you I don't think the FBI is more better than most local comms. I think they got more resource, that's all. They just got more time. They don't have as much. They don't have much time. They have more time to

investigate where street cops they have small department. They just have to keep working working cases, cases, cases, you know, something new happening every day, where the FBI and the US Attorney just get a sign on the case and they've run with that for two years. So it's the only difference. So the homicide, uh, the police officers that was on this case, well homicide, right, No, they were sex crimes Union, the best of that, you know, big

big department. Let me read something that the prosecutor of the case, Linda Farsting, said recently. She said that the TV show depicts me in a fictionalized version of events and a grossly and maliciously inaccurate manner. Well, we though TV show I say that about Tom, They great, Katie has made me and I'm still cool with him because but you know what we expect for her to say.

Um Eva Diverne, the producer of the show, actually says she reached out to the prosecutor, the former prosecutor, to bring her in on the show to get her side of the story. And she said that the prosecutor, Miss Linda Farstein, had all of these requests about having creative control, being able to tell it the way she wanted to tell it, and they said, no, no, no, this is our story. This is actually these guys story. We want to bring you in too for your input. And she

didn't want any party to do with the show. Why is that, Well, obviously because opinions in the way that she was depicted, like like like like like I said earlier, where go pick up all black guys, go pick up everybody? And then she was like, well I did to tell them to go pick up everybody involved in the case. You know what I mean? You know, just like everything.

That's why you can't look at shows versus documentary. I'd rather see the documentary because I know there's gonna be a little bit of um, you know, some creative license used to to tell the four part series. Yeah, but from what I understand, EVA is a stickler for the facts. The producer and UM and what these guys are saying, and some recent interviews are pretty much you know, accurate, meaning what that they can't be trusted or they picked

ms I'm saying. So they're gonna they're gonna tell there they're true. I believe what they're saying now, I mean, I mean no, I mean, we have no choice because it's already been it's factually known the rapist as a whole another person, and these five teenagers at the time have nothing to do stupid enough. It's the interrogation. It's

the interrogation tactics that I'm critical of. On first forty eight, I have no problem with the way we see those detectives, whether it's in um, what cities do they do they St. Louis Dallas, I haven't. I don't have any criticism. Those are professional homicide detectives. They asked the right questions, they put enough pressure on there. What these detectives did in this case was like a thousand times a thousand what

you see on first forty eight. You know, I don't No one needs to get beat up in the interrogation room. How many people get their ass kicked on first forty eight, but how many at the end of pursuits. Now you know that helicopter the news helicopters don't have. It's not it's not necessary. You don't need to be that someone during interrogation with very where the body cam you should have every everybody that goes in that room. It should

be videotaped. How did Jerry gate that person? Even the CIA says, um certain interrogations that they've done in the past ineffective. If you're water boarders water boarding someone, they're gonna say whatever you want to have you ever felt what it's like. I actually got water boarder one because I wanted to feel those like it is torture. Somebody's pouring water on the top of my head and they want me to say where when Mohammed is at. I'm telling Mohammed is around the corner of the street, up

the hill, down the stair. So the CIA actually determined that water boarding people yielded false information. So you can't tell me that aggressive interrogation techniques is going to yield false information sometimes too, right, Actually, all right, Reggie's quiet right now. But I mean, I think the CIA probably knows more about interrogation than any other government body on the planets. Yeah, Central Intelligence Agency, the ones that actually use water boarding, and a lot of CIA experts say

it yields false information. So my question is, do you understand why an Arab in Saudi Arabia that's being water boarded in the basement of a safe house that the CIA is running is gonna tell them whatever they want to hear. It's the same concept, so the innocent innocent. I'm talking about people that got water board We found out that most of the people in Guantanamo Bay had nothing to do with terrorism, and they were sitting in Guantanamo Bay for nothing to do with terrorist at all.

Most of them, I would say that over sevent them had nothing to do with were never linked to any terrorist activity. Yeah, they got a few of them, but they swept up a whole lot. It's just like what this prosecutor said, there's a line like you were mentioned and go to Harlem, go to uptown and get every black kid and bring them in for questioning. You know, that's what That's what the movie depicts. That's what the movie depicts. Yeah, she's denying that, you know. Of course

she's gonna deny. She's gonna deny everything. I mean, she's got a lot to lose, she's got her publishing deals, she's on a bunch of boards that don't want her on there anymore, and there's some sponsorships all right. So I wanted to bring up one more thing that I thought was kind of interesting. Um, I think the article was a little misleading, but there's an article that said

the crypts trademark the marathon continues the trademarking. Yeah, so I looked it up, and what it is is Nipsey Hustle's brother is trademarking the word um ther the phrase the marathon continues, but within the trademark it actually has the words cripts and bloods in it. So I think the media kind of got a misunderstanding of of what maybe Nipsey's brother was trying to do if. But it also brings up an interesting idea about what gangs can do.

So James, imagine if you or one of your homeboys decided, Hey, let's incorporate or trademark the phrase mob piru. And then and let's start encouraging our youth from the neighborhood to start creating businesses under the banner mab Piru. Now ma Piru is a corporation. And now we got a car wash under mab Piru. We got a Hamburger stand under mab piru. Because that's really what Nipsey's brothers doing. He's

doing a T shirt T shirts. It is. And I think that all gangs should start moving in this direction. In fact, gang members have already been moving in this direction for the last years, being more entrepreneurial, investing their money buying property. But usually it's elicit money that's generated through drugs. Are Yeah, it's usually like drug dealer money

being poured into legitimate enterprises. But now we can be at a point where like like Black Sam, Nipsey's brother, he could actually take legitimate money and invested into something and just keep flipping, keep flipping, keep flipping, as they say on the streets in the drug game. And I'm just surprised that more gangs do not become corporations. You don't have too many gangs out there that God leaders. That's intelligent like that. That that's really on the business

aspect of it. Not back then you weren't looking at it like that. Nowadays you can get your phone and google anything and you can come up with something like this. Back then, you no one would ever think that's use our hood to benefit in a in a in a righteous way. I saw the brother from West Side Paru Wacko, he's making Paru shirts that's now putting the p on it. And now people might look at that as, oh, that's that's gang banging, But it's really the culture, right It's

it's the culture. It's the neighborhood as the community, and why not make some shirts and and build a business off of it. Whether it says par rou or whatever. What I'm saying. If you thought about it years ago, just think where you'll be now. You know what I'm saying. Just like I mean, it's catchy, but none of us don't like this. Are are thinking that was business minded? Should I say? No, brothers twenty years ago with business minded, but it was it was I'm saying, it was more

about crack cocaine. How do I cut this ups but it's taking it's taking that same mentality something else in nineteen Now it's totally different. The technology is different. You know, we didn't have a phone where we can do all this different ship with Now, man, this is this. This is a great ideal because a lot of things gonna come with this. You know, you do anything that got nipsey on it. They putting on the rights to it.

So it's gonna be interesting to see how long this this plays out, how long Lauren London and her her daughter or her sign. I sat back and uh let the family continue to uh on on this patent. It says they're gonna create shirts, T shirts, sweaters, beanies, hats, sweatsuits, varsity jackets, pants, socks, footwear. I mean every anybody can do that for their neighborhood and community. Well he was already going to anybody can do that for the neighborhood.

But there we get together and go to every different hood and we put a plan together in Gentlem, this is what we can do for your neighborhood. We can get shirts, has many, we create everything. We're creative thing and give y'all of whatever we make. Games. No, no, it's glorifying the neighborhood, the community. It's it's more about pride where you grew up, like open up an organization where that money can go into that. It helped that

neighborhood victims is what I'll call it. Gunshot victims. So now I know you're from the mob and you're claiming the mob, and I'm from Santana Black you when you got everybody you think that, you think that wackos shirts, whacko from West Side, Piru making those Piru shirts. That's a dangerous thing. Yeah, yeah, we're just to be on it. Yeah, because now I know you, I know where you're from.

I know what everyone already knows where he's from. I'm talking about talk about him, But the person that's wearing it, I got a pirate. I'm not a Piru. And I got one of them shirts. I got the Hoover shirt. They got a thing called fixed Side. I got a Hoover shirts over there and do gang gang out and stuff like that. But when when I got a little when I'm going to school and got my little fourteen fifteen year old, So I bet you won't let yourself wearing them that way? You got a point but I'm

talking about for adults. I'm talking about for adults. But then who's gonna visually wanted? I don't know's I mean? It is like the Crenshaw, the marathon thing and all of that, because it's not doing game members and game. I mean I gained territories. I don't mean to say members gained territories, meaning you support. It's like the m OB sign. Uh, everybody putting on the m ob pinky ring and all of that stuff. Now, that would have been a great trademark, but the Crenshaw is a gang

thing though. In fact, let me tell you one of the first games. You know. Maybe you'll say, but but that's not what Nimpsey was was promoting. He was really promoting CRENSHAWL. Slawson. Well that's wrong with sixty script name. I mean, but but he would. But we didn't look at it, and we looked at it as Crenshaw Boulevard, our our Avenue, whichever wanted. Maybe you did, because I didn't look at that. I wore the Crunshaw shirt once when I was going to interview some five dudes Hoover's.

When I got to the little shop that they had, they asked me, can you take that shirt off? And I was like why, They said, because that's neighborhood Chris. So they gave me a fix Side Hoover shirt. So I literally took the Crunshaw shirt off and put the fix Side shirt off that they gave me. So you wouldn't be a problem. You just told me a few minutes a problem. I mean, wouldn't like that wanta beat my ass? And I knew who you were, They knew

you wouldn't a crunshall. They just just like, I'm sure if I had on a Pyreus shirt and I walked over into Santana Block neighborhood, they're gonna be like, you gotta really wear that over here. They're not gonna be my but let my son, your son or somebody like that come winning over there. They you're claiming that, huh And you over here you got something that that's silly like that, And yeah, you're gonna have a problem wearing it. You're gonna have a problem wearing But I mean, you

can understand that what you're saying. But I'm just saying it's gonna be future guns. Go to the Laker game and wait outside. But Piru is a street just like Compton is. But I know, I like argument. I'm sorry you just like crunch, I got you. Now, I always see these Compton hats with the old English right across the top. Who makes those hats? Remember the Nano tots and everybody start coming out with the DIFP coats and all that Beverly Hills. Then they make it first come

from all that the phone. But yeah, I remember those T shirts wasn't big. But what was they called? I think, yeah, we did that, but it was really Beverly Hills. I think they started. Now, what if someone trademarked Compton and put it on hats and shirts and started selling that. You think somebody might feel a certain kind of way, but they can ain't nobody. I know that the swap mean make those hats, Yeah, but I don't think that

the Koreans that the swap mean trademarked, trademarketing. Shoul Ice Cub don't get the credit that he should get for the Raiders and the White Sox and then he was the first one to start wearing on him and easy and in double A because man, then the NFL sall

hold up and they started trademarking them. Could you imagine how much money ice Cube and then Double A and all of them lost would have had if they would have helped the Raiders or this or went to them and say, hey, this is what we're going to create. We want to percentage and we're gonna help market your stuff. Man. Man, well, I think there's a way that gangs could try to incorporate themselves produce product that maybe not as gang related

as Yeah, the p for pyrou is very obvious. That's I mean just to say that if to get games to be really on a more positive note, to create something that that can go anywhere and everywhere, let's not have the game mentality to put it out there like that on some gang ship. You know what I'm saying. The marathon is basically like, you know, there's some good ship. We doant some hood ships, so Nigga's gonna buy. But I think people all over the world go to the

website they want a pirous shirt. White folks and Middle America want a piroushert. But still everybody ain't. They wasn't even trying to sell that crush Shall stuff to people in the hood. He was mainly doing it for out of towners and people to come and visit the show, and and and and mainly most of their sales was done what on the internet. Yes, so I think the marathon continues. Slogan is it's very neutral. But I love

all of that. I just man, they must have a strong family because the baby mamas are being awfully quiet. Well what's your name? Got the baby? I mean she got, but there's another baby my mouth there. Yeah, I think they should be more quiet. More the street about this generally don't happen. I know I can do it. Well. The first baby mama was upset because she lost her little court hearing trying to get this custody of Yeah,

Nipsey's family has the kids. I don't know. I don't know what she There's a lot of other don't okay, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know specifics about her. All I know is she the judge definitely agreed with Nipp's family that you are not getting the kid. You know. I don't know. But they tried to interview her while she was walking out the court and she didn't have anything to say. No, she looked pretty good, she looked okay, and then um, I saw some photos of her on

her Instagram page. She looked fine, but I was I was told that she went to her Instagram and deleted a bunch of stuff that made her look bad so that maybe she can get her kid back. But she didn't get the kid back. I don't know. Yeah, I heard another kid. But I heard that the Marathon store was back ordered, like thousands and thousands of orders. I heard it made like dollars. And since it's depth, at one point, everybody any mama trying to get to get

that major advertisement. He got shoes, he got shows, she got everything out there. Well, I think that all these different neighborhoods throughout Los Angeles should start thinking more business minded and perhaps come up with more neutral terms. But also it represents your neighbor like Rosecrans. I saw I saw ge Weed from Campanella Park once wearing a Rosecrans shirt. You know that doesn't necessarily mean you pirou Rosecrans goes through Let's see, Rose Crest can go anywhere. Yeah, but

that's cool. But what I'm saying is, man, I just gotta just gotta really like think I really don't have Santana block Rosecrans kind of hits one side of Santana Block. Rose Crans goes straight on up. Yeah mostly, but when she said that down though, but Santano Many Alameda or Santa Fe or Rose Street, but they're right on the south side of the roads. Well, but I don't think they represent Rose when you when you say everybody in town?

But would you think would you say, would you say rosecrans is a more neutral term that could be used for That's a good point, Like, that's a good one. I just I just think, man being a game banger and trying to get away and separate yourself from being a game banger, you should not think or trying to keep the game banging mentality. If you moved on, let's move on now, let's be more creative on what I'm trying to do and how I want to do it. That's the only way you can just truly get away

from the game banging thing. But did Nipsey have the gang banging mentality? Still? Yeah? Yeah, your that will never go nowhere. But I took it somewhere else. He didn't. He didn't. His whole focus was on some hoodship because he could have been a big old and h on everything he had. But he didn't do it like that. He chose something like we just said, Chris Shaw. But what did he say every time he greeted you? This is neighborhood? N Every greeting was neighborhood, NI and who

and who. Ain't getting down like that, But I'm not with it. But this is who I am. Now, I got no problem with it. And and man, I guarantee you nobody else had a problem with him saying that. But what I'm saying is just to to get away from the game banging mentality and be creative with what you're really trying to do and you really want to

take it somewhere, Let's not think like that. Let's get outside of that box and let's go and let's create something that I think everybody you want without having the second guess of putting it on, of what color it is or whatever. It'd be nice. Game bang. It ain't gonna be eradicated. Yeah, I don't think gangs are going anywhere anytime soon. They've been in America for fifty years. They're probably gonna be here. Um for as long as

society exists, we're gonna have gangs. But we can move gangs into a different direction, though, we can push them over here where killings drop, conflict drops, assault shop. You're

never gonna have zero conflicts, zero shooting, zero killings. But if you've got more people incorporating thinking about let me make these shirts or let me press these um well, I was gonna say CDs, that's getting played out, but let me work on the music, let me do this, let me do that, you're gonna have less people out there saying let me go shoot this dude, let me go dump on this guy. No, every day, every day you got a new blood and you got a new crip.

But you gotta new something, want to be something everybody wants the name at the beginning. If you if you stop these kids, these fourteen fifteen year old kids, and give them something productive, then you run out of o g s. Because if you got these nineteen year old cats and you say, okay, the nineteen years old they're gonna do this, they should gonna play out. But if I'm stopping everything from there on down and teaching them and showing them there's a different way out. You don't

have to be a game banger. You could be this. You can be that. You can go to the military. You can do this. If we get them kids, then you it wee it'll wear itself out. Well you're talking about I'm talking about, yeah, teaching our kids, don't. Don't. Every black man has a son. Every black man should be accountable for his son. I'm proud to be a father of a king. Treat your son such as teaching ship. I didn't have the privilege of having my father teach me how to be bate a hook with a worm.

I didn't have the privilege of my father on the football with me. It takes you somewhere else. I had a grandfather though, that taught me good, you know what I'm saying. But you still take that somewhere else. So you need more than conversation. Just because he taught me everything, don't mean I'm gonna be everything. So I mean we gotta step our game up as father's you know what I'm saying. Just because you're at home with him and and and you say good morning sun every day, don't

mean you're being a good father. You gotta teach him. You gotta show him. I gotta show you how to treat this woman. I gotta show you how to groom yourself. I gotta show you how to do this. Beating up women don't do nothing but but take away from your your your your your manhood. Just I mean, you gotta teach him a lot of type of ship, a lot of ship. Well, I agree, in an ideal world, all

of that's definitely for the betterment of a kid. Well, if daddy, if if, if, if fathers step up from day one, if if, if they step up, your your child got a better chance. And not just going out there and saying because there's so much out here to show your son, this is what happens if you want to take this round. It's so much out there. So be be a teacher to your your your child. You know what I'm saying. Be be a teacher as well as your father and your son to get it your

son to understand we didn't have that. But all you have to do is do it now. And and man, you save your kids. Well, you know, we should definitely talk about that topic next week and more in depth about the role moms have and the role that that men have in terms of raising our kids. In Los Angeles, Compton, Long Beach, Watts and in these streets because a lot of it has to do with family, why these guys go on the streets. And then also, UM, I want

everybody to watch this show. It's four episode. I don't

know if you got four. Um it's four episodes, and maybe we can talk specifically about I would actually recommend listening to some interviews of these guys too, so you can get some some factual stuff, because I don't know how accurate the show is, but the show is when they see us for four episodes on Netflix, and um, I just watched the one episode and I was just completely appalled at the interrogation techniques that these detectives were using. But um, we're gonna wrap it up right there now.

Thanks for listening to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles, and uh, stay tuned for another great episode next week. Thanks for watching. Good morning, goodnight, good evening, wherever you may be really listening from Bye Bye out of here.