When They See Us Part 1

And we appreciate everyone that comes to our page and where there's the Facebook page, Instagram page and submits information. And we're gonna start this off with some fact checking from last week. You couldn't remember read something or other. The neighborhood that they were shooting the video we're talking about the Snoop Dogg video or is it the dog Pound video where the shooting happened was Red Hook, which is a neighborhood in Brooklyn. So that was Red Hook, y'all.

And Red Hook as a well known area in Brooklyn. I remember it when I was a kid living in New York. And then I remember you said Biggie called it, remember saying, so here's exactly what um what was said on the radio. According to Snoop Duck, Snoop Dogg actually did an interview in two thousand and eighteen where he talked about this for the very first time, and he says, we went up to the radio station to get that funk Master Flex so we could let everyone in New

York know that we brought our low riders out. We're shooting a video. All the New York rappers come mess with us. And then, um, eventually he said, Flex gets a call from from Biggie and says, um, Biggie goes on the on the radio via phone like you guys mentioned, and um, he says that m Flex gets a call from Biggie that nigga. Biggie goes what's happening, Nigga Red Hook is where the Dog Pound and Snoop Dogg are shooting a video. Brooklyn stand up. So that was Biggie's

words to funk Master Flex on the radio. YO, And I guess some people interpreted that as saying something and then it says here, Um, we don't know. According to Snoop, we don't know what that means. We think niggers are coming to the show to show some love. Like Brooklyn stand up, so we're still shooting the video. This is Snoop talking the Dog Pound. We're all out in the snow in front of the bricks and and we go back to the trailer and then I guess the shooting

kind of happened. Like I always tell you all about Snoop at as days, he trying to be a politician. Go listen to Trade D. Trade D tell you more in detail. And he just did an interview with Lad where they heard him calling off all the different names like you snot knows this nose, this versus and all of those different names. Y'all need to you know, like y'all need to go do something. He called off a bunch of street nigga names that's in the area and

and pretty much incited them to put into work. Check it out. He just said it on a LAD interview. Well, he said, Snoops in this interview from last year, says you could watch one of the episodes of Unsolved, and he said that they depicted what happened in New York and Red Hood, Brooklyn pretty accurately. I don't remember the Yeah, okay, I mean, don't try to see it, Like I don't

think nobody ever looked at Snoop like that. Snoop Dogg has not really been outside of Long Beach, you know what I'm saying until his music, right, so it's Snoop Dogg like a like a you can actually this from Reggie, a big name in the neighborhood before wrap. No, No, he just was a little youngster like on the corner. But but that's not my point. My point is just that now and because who knows what he was feeling and feeling ninety four x and all of that, because

he was on top of the world. My point is, and he's still, you know, very successful. My point is he's trying to be more of a politician now than ever. Yeah, but I'm saying back and back. I mean, you know, he doesn't. He never spoke about this incident in years we made what do you think made him want to talk about it last year? It's been a big topic of subject, even though it happened with twenties seven years ago.

We talked about Tupac on this show there, every every podcast were done there, and that happened twenty three four years ago. But someone getting killed and a trailer getting shot at two different things, Well, we associate. We associate why why Snoop is being disloyal. Tupac is a subject to us because we feel all feel that he's he's trying to act like he's cool with Pop, but in our mind and most of the community mind, he is a bit That's typical niggaship though, niggas getting mad at

each other. Motherfucker's go their way and then they come back and smiling your face but still really ain't got over that that issue, but then smiled because they know we gotta function, so they're smiling your face and ain't really over it, so the animosity is still there. So you have motherfucker's that all the mount of the skirts opposed to, you know, letting that ship go as men. You got some cats like they're saying nigga's bitches too,

so they think like that. I mean, the hottest thing that's out right now is is Snoop and Puffy Uh been trolling, you know, they say trolling sugar or whatever, which I don't given about, but they both trolling. Trolling. That's the youngster's no work. But he's him a Puffy hanging out together at at Puffy House in New Jersey with death row chains on well, Snoop had a death row chain dancing and there, you know, Puffy pretty much acts. You know, it's made the statement what Sho said to

him at the source of awards. So all right, Well, what I found interesting about what Snoop said in this two thousand and eighteen interview was after hearing what Biggie said on the radio, he says, we didn't know what that meant. We're thinking Nigga's are coming to show some love like Brooklyn stand up. And that was one of my points, just saying, right now Snoop Dogg is out of Long Beach, how much knowledge on game ship does

he really have at this time? So if you hear Biggie on the radio saying, what's happening Nigga Red Hook is where the dog pounding Snoop are shooting the video Brooklyn stand up? And I take that as a threat. It sounds like a threat because if he was talking, who come on, man, nigga ain't the words? Now, I just put some extras on it because I don't know how Biggie actually said that. The bay I could say, what's happening? Swear dog pound and Snoop are shooting the video. Brooklyn,

stand up, that's coach man. You know those are coach anybody know that that just sounds like coach man up there. It was a song this in New York in their mind, you know, you listen to Correl correct, I'll tell you all day that they were paying how much to uh New York they wanted to go to Times Square and how Biggie and Puff and other people like that from New York to come in and dance in the video exactly.

And the cooldest thing about that those dudes had the money to pay the living homies should go out there and do ship like that, do shooting up ship and funding with ship like that. But so it's yeah, but you know now you hear most people the same. It was a Jimmy Hinchman call anyway, and Jimmy Henchman is actually the one to send somebody the fires shots at at the at the trailer, and it wasn't even so

much to call out on the radio, so you never know. Yeah, I was just wondering, was the was the radio coming by Biggie really meant for? Yeah, it was, it was taking that way. I got to hear the tone he never denied it, and people always say, well, why why did he you know, did he really mean this? Why do he really feel this way? You go listen at that route that he did uh in l A on the radio station out here, the Lone Kids Goodbye. He was pretty much bagging about having something to do with

part getting killed. Then we get Biggie a pass to try to make him a saint because we love his mama so much. But man, everybody played a part, all right. So um also last week I thought it was kind of cool and um Spider actually remember the line from jay Z when we're talking about East coast West coast to south, we give Dre as props, but that's where it stops. Where Dre was basically where j was basically saying,

we don't really like the West Coast. That was actually on a song called The Watcher Too, and guests who produced the album or the song Dr Dre. When I looked it up, I saw Dr Dre's name was on it, and that's from the album The Blueprint to release November two thousand and two. So Dollars wrote, DREDA, Who's that jay Z? The biggest song on Chronic well one of the biggest songs on Chronic two thousand one. He didn't

go for right it, he wrote wrote it. So yeah, I didn't know that there was this um, this long relationship between Dr Dre and UH and UM we called jay Z. Well, this song came out in two thousand two, and I guess even in two thousand two, the East Coast still wasn't given the West Coast love when it came to music with because you got the biggest rapper in New York basically saying we don't really mess with the West, but we messed with Dr Drake because on

this album, and he was one of the producers on on that song. So that was last week when Spider said that. Now shout out to jay Z still becoming a being there. Last week you said that the death Row bankruptcy was around oh eight oh nine, I think, but it was actually oh six. Does that make sense eight o nine? If I did, I'm misspoken. I knew. I think that's what I said. I went back to start helping shook out with that during that time, but I knew that I think I said, oh five oh six. Okay, well,

i'll fact check this fact check later on. But what's really interesting about that is that the bankruptcy didn't complete until two thousand sixteen. That's basically eleven ten eleven years. Why so long because there's still money to be made, and the the only person to make a bankruptcy make money in a bankruptcy is the attorneys exactly. And what they call that guy, the one is over everything, the trusteed or something like that, and the trusty hum, big ass.

You know about that? You just did one of two thousand and sixteen. Now I found an article from two thousand and sixteen that said that Dr Dre was old eight million from the bankruptcy, Nate Dogg was worth five was old five million, Tupac was old a million, and none of them got the money. But everybody put in a claim. And you put a claim, man, you you're throwing up against the wall, hope for the best, and

you know, and Snoop Doggs claim was two million. Guess what Chugs claim was a hundred and forty four million. No one got any money except for the lawyers get so much. The lawyers got eight point three million, they got more than that. Do you think they got more than that? Well? The company, so the catalog so for like thirty six million, and so all that money was well, usually lawyers get either from from one of them get they got a judgment when they got a judgment that

they never got paid. Here the person that we filed the bank Rose four was Michael Herrio. He never got in here on Nidia never got any money. Well, since here a Fanny finished your cor she got some money. Tupac's mom got seventy k and then later fifty seven K.

So that's what Penny's really think about it. But but what was her claim and what was she all because but then you know, everything had been resolved, so it's not like that's all she got and we're not gonna start that room or because what you think huh to the guy damn trusting in the attorneys fees paper all the money that he had on the money, oh heel off that she's always been broke, believed sheould have shouldn't have money coming in and he would spend it as

it came, always always, So there's the money. The company got some money. That's why I end up on the building on Wilshire will Shore because I had to refinance. I had to get money out. The paid big grippy and and and give miss A some money and uh and the DLC. Is it fair to say that death row grossed over five million gross gross. Yeah, but that's the interscope time water everybody more even more than that. Yeah,

I don't know. I mean it was we was able to do whatever the funk we want, you know, and neither that yachts and all of that stuff. But I'm just saying it wasn't like what people would think. He had timmillion dollars. The team me and twin millon dollars said it, you know, sending in the count a one time, but he would go get the money and be a nigga and spend it. I was just shocked at the bankruptcy took ten years to resolve, from oh six to sixteen.

That is unbelievable. The attorneys and that trusty want letting their money go until they it was all gone. Also, last week we talked about you mentioned Michael Durouttle that a little out from corner Pocket. I believe he no, no, no, it's from a little ills from the I'm sorry sorry, he's from south Side. The Stone Brothers are from Corner Pockets.

Actually it was a father and a nephew. So Michael Duroux was actually sentenced to three life terms without parole in plus forty nine years um for his role in the shootout at the Compton car wash, which was on a Landralandra right next door to the tour down now it was right across next Leander And for everyone who doesn't know the people involved in that, it was Orlando Anderson and Michael Dureaux. They were homeboys and they confronted Michael Stone and his nephew Jerry Stone, and the way

the story goes, they all did at some point. And there's two theories of what happened. One was over a debt, a drug debt. That's the only theory, and the other thing was one theory I read was it was over a gang conflict, but it didn't sound plausible. Feel over gamefront. You don't go confront, Yeah, exactly. He started start dumping. Yeah, so apparently, um, I think Michael Stone pulled out a gun. First, Michael Darrow was like, hey, hey, put that gun away.

I guess Michael Stone didn't listen, he's and then Orlando pulled his out and then they started shooting. So Orlando started shooting and shot Michael Stone and Jerry Stone, and then then Michael Dureau grabbed Orlando's gun because they one of the Stones was still alive, and then I believe he shot um Jerry Stone in self defense. I would say, That's what my point was. Unfortunately, for a littlehile, he didn't bring a gun to the to the gun battle.

Michael du Michael, Yeah, he came unarmed and he was the passenger in the car with Orlando Anderson and didn't even go there with any intentions of a shooting and ends up with three life sentences, isn't that? But he he was with him because they were cross street at the Hamburger stand and they planned to go over there and confront of him. That's where they get there. If he wouldn't have said, we went over there to confront I guess who who stopped him when they were trying

to leave them, we go to the hospital. Who's that senior, Reggie right, senior. They didn't want to pull them over and pulled out Michael what like it was like his nephew, I mean him and Michael I was real close. So I just think it's kind of unfortunate what happened to Michael Reid. You know he's been the jail before, he shot his c HP or officer before. Doesn't matter. That's a big thing. You can change. Yeah, whatever, you definitely can change. You might change. You can change it once

I go. Once you going in and get caught doing something else and playing with gun play, then no, Well, I know, on that day, I think it's fair to say that Michael Michael Darrow had no intentions of shooting anybody. His intentions was with me. And you could say, let's go over here and confront James, let's go get our money, Let's go get oh, what's some money? And we know we got guns and all of that, and Orlando had a gun. He didn't have a gun, but he mus

still admit that he knew that. Orlando probably always carried a gun. And you don't think that sometimes you do, Sometimes you don't. Not everyone always, you know, I might be exaggerating, but not. Your homeboy doesn't always tell you he's armed, because he might say, hey, can you give me a ride? You got anything on you? Nine? I'm clean, and he ain't clean. He just he needs a ride though, And he probably got a ounce in his pocket and

strapping his back pocket. But he wants that ride. You get pulled over and you're like, damn, everybody going to jail because he didn't say that he was dirty, but Orlando, Orlando usually do that. That's the that's the belief that he was pretty you know, he was pretty active. So when you're active, you probably always trapped. And everybody knows that, I know money, I know he got a strap exactly, so that that's not a question whether you had That's

not something we talk about. But I don't think that Michael Durou should be held to a certain standard because his homeboy got a gun. Ninety of the time that gun's not getting pulled out. We're on the same page, though, if if if we go and I got the gun, I'm over to hold a gun on them, you check the money or you do the chalking, and I got the piston on anybody moved, I got it. That can go either way. That's I mean the story is. And you'll need to watch forty eight hours because you should

see how cops we celebrate when niggas talk. Soon as we walk all the room talking about when you get in that more fucking boot shot, then as a cop. They used to tell us, you get into shooting good or bad. Good are bad, make them order you to talk. Don't talk because you're sitting up a trend if you talk when it's good, and then when you have a bad shooting, a questionable shooting, and you don't talk, So don't talk. That's what all the your your attorneys, you'r

relpt will tell you. So the only thing you say to a police officer when they when they put you in the box, hey, y'all sir, And that's how you say it so they won't lie and start creating ship on you. The only thing you just say to also, hey, viewers in my position, or if I was only your family member, what would you do. Let's say that to him.

And if they can't respect that in here, that out that they're not good for you anyway, because they'd be you know what, you're right, man, A good cop would be like, you're right, yeah, but that um but looking for the hours you don't see I mean, they give each other high fives and stuff like that as soon as they get you to talk. And that's how most of the time you see them. They don't even I wish I could do a book on the man hours is solving cases like that? Could solve a case like

that in Compton in forty hours? Niggas talk all the times where if you don't have an eye witness, that's the only way called stil cases is my niggas opened up their mouths. Yeah, but what has that got to do solving them in forty eight hours? Said the first the most important but most of the time. But yeah, if you got the players, I mean, you know how

many times Reggie don't got people in the boxing? I mean, man, well, the last thing I want to say about that Michael Read situation was that Michael Stone was the guy that pulled out the gun. First, He's the one that pulled the strap out, and Michael's telling him, hey, put that away, we're in here for all that. But then and then Orlando pulled up. Yeah, well, I'm not sure who's the

first shooter in that situation. I don't think anyone really knows what the London probably wouldn't have pulled his, if boy wouldn't have pulled his, That just here's I mean, you know what I'm saying. And when I know I'm guilty and I know I'm olding you don't be a little bit more aggressive. And when I know you owed me aggressive just like this shirt. Motherfucker's ain't taking that and ain't playing. You put a lot of fish on me. That's the sign of just well, he probably been looking

for him for a long time. Yeah, and I've waiting to find have been by your house. The unfortunate part of the law they have that if you can come and commend to crime, you get on the murders. Yeah, he got triple life set. I ain't even got gun part of and I got trouple life plus forty nine three life terms plus forty nine years. But you know, California, it's something called rule if you can nick that up

next year, something called rule nineteen or nineteen. That that a lot of guys getting out now for them felony murder, the rule. Yeah, I believe that that Michael Durrow will be out little out will be out soon. But he's already been in there nineteen twenty. He's been over twenty years already, you know, So three lives is only and it is it's incredible that he got charged with all three of those murders and got sentenced to three life terms plus forty nine so uh punless you gotta remember

his red he shot a police officer before. Okay, was he convicted for that? Yeah? Okay, Well they don't count them really, but but you know, they might bring it up, but then they'll tell the jury not to take this into account. But it's supposed to be stilled. It's not even about he probably took a deal. He probably never want to trial on that, did he. Yeah he did, he took a deal, but no, My point was the judge took it in consideration and sentencing. Yeah, well, judges

can do whatever they want to do in most instances. Yeah, there's really no accountability on stuff like that, and we don't know the situation of circumstances of why he shot the Was it the c HP officer? Yeah, I forget jumped down of stolen car. I don't I have to forget that. I don't. I love to put Yeah, damn, he started, you know, and he wanted the first. You know, they always say, how can you be out there doing the drive by? It's five yard in the car with

five guns. One police officer, pull you over and take everybody to jail because everybody will to take that penitentiary time. But god demn it don't make you taking a penitential chance doing the drive ball. They just came over three we start. Man. You remember, I remember guncasing Compton used to be a misdemeanor case, especially the first time. Ten days uh ten days the county jail, three years, uh

uh probation. That's what they did was they gave me well lead forward actually helped me out on that because dude didn't come to court. That's when they used to do the seventy two hour things. They don't do that no more. And the dudes at the light with us and he got the throwing it up game banging we have were on Roastcrans and Brackfield and were just celebrating,

just leaving out the parks, celebrating top Dogs birthday. And then they just got the throwing rags all out the band, just banging and unfortunately somebody shot at him right, so the police was, uh pardon was two guards behind us and they called us. Then when he took us to jail, he say, I saw you do it. You know, he say me do ship. The paradin was a cop to yeah, but he was also he was a mayor and he

was he was he was my partner. I mean he's he's my father's trainee and he eventually was my training at the Lots Park plunge, at the pool he worked at. He worked always worked from the city and Daddy was over the His brother Percy Parrodon was a commander at the police partment. Remember Eric Parrodon won won the mayor, but then they overturned it and gave it to Omar Radley. That never happened. He kept a full turning. I don't

want to put him in now. They filed a claim against because he didn't ain't some of the money that I gave him when I was working for Death Throw, and he had to pay that back like twelve or fourteen. But but Omar, that's why he hates me to this day because he was running a wreck in the city and I was like, okay, why would you say he was running the wreck? It was running. I sat in that trial against Omar Bradley and all the allegations they had against him with Tiki tach financial out um, like, uh,

they're all small time expenses. I was waiting to hear a week ago, just got found his case this finally got where he got conviction of Yeah, he tried to get it up here. But let me just say that. Let me say this about the one thing about the about when he was there, that city was clean. He was big on making park not parking public U public servant. I forget the department, but the one to clean up the city and all that. He stayed on the ass. But in that trial I was wouldn't be the way

they are under his wife. I was waiting to hear um misappropriation of hundreds of thousands of dollars. You know what the offenses that Omar Bradley was convicted of. It was buying a souvenir at a golf gift shop. That's that's all they got. Because they started paying. They knew they was getting back invest Yeah, they talked about he was trying to pay, but he was trying to pay back three hundred dollars. He was all small amount in the credit card and they were paying it back and

they had it for for years. But the but the city manager took the fall for most of it, which was his boy. Him, my professor from lou got a lot of respect from me for him. But they were doing things and and and that's what they got him on. They were getting a hotel because they're gonna have a meeting and they're using the city car to get a hotel. All the spending was minor, so I feel like he was targeted. I was like, they don't like they want

to get rid of all. They don't want to Omar to ever run for public office again because he spent ten dollars on No, no, that some of these things actually cost yeah, added up. One of the things was a ball marker. You're using golf, that's ten dollars in the gift shop. Well yeah, some of the chats with three hundred, the hotel room they were they were five thousand dollars. Was was the most thinking that the city manager can do without approval At four he wasn't convicted

of anything like that. It still doesn't matter if you if you'd hit of a corporation every time, should be accountable for. I'm gonna use my own money for the things that I need. Don't take I don't care if it's ten dollars. This is no. So when Obama goes to the local store in Washington, d C. And buy sandwiches,

we're talking about the president. That's taxpayer money. I'm just saying, when a politician uses taxpayer money, you know the game player, you know the you should know what to use, you know what to do at the right time your money. But you're allowed to do stuff like go get lunch. But if them out, yeah, so you should be allowed to go play golf if it's for the betterment the betterment of the city of Compton. I believe. I believe

four thousand, nine d nine nine dollars. Sometimes, well, that wasn't that was not what Omar Bradley was convicted for his first conviction. By the way, it was overturned when he was convicted of the same thing with thirteen fourteen years ago. This trial that he had in two thousand seventeen was a retrial from what happened fifteen years ago. So it just was I said, I'm gonna sitting in

this trial, all right. Don't you think honestly that we're being watched and were in high positions anyway, I think if people of color like you and I that's watched, I think more than more than I think all the Mexicans always getting done. I said people, I said people, of color very rarely, very rarely. But yeah, but it is the politicians in the in the ghetto areas and

stuff like that. But because America is going to be with the majority minority country, got rolled up and there was a bunch of people and Bill got rolled up, and they wouldn't just they weren't. You know, they allowed white people to resign, They allowed them to step down, they allowed them to lie. Baker's lie. Baker's in prison. My point. Yeah, but he's of color, though he's of Latino descent. I don't see um Bratton or any of these. I never saw Chief Darryl Gates looking at any time

he resigned and let him resign. So yeah, I do believe that people of color that are in political positions do have a microscope over them. You know, look at the Ray Nagan from New Orleans. He's in prison, serving twelve years in the FEDS. Just first, same thing to Omar Bradley did. Spending a little bit of money for the betterment of New Orleans, but they wanted to get rid of Ray Nagan. Chicago got a whole bunch of mirrors.

Oh yeah, Blagoya Vinch was one of them, all right, So but you know, you bring up an interesting point about interrogation, and I want to talk about that because there's this show on TV right now and we're not gonna go into the details of the show this week. Maybe next week we'll talk about the show. But it's called When They See Us and it's about the Central Park five five teenagers that were convicted of a rape in and it turned out they were all innocent. And

how were they found guilty. They were found guilty by aggressive interrogation tactics that the police did on all five of these teenagers separately, to where the teenagers eventually just started to say whatever the police wanted to hear because they want to go home. Here's one of the tactics that that cops will use. They'll say, look, tell us the truth and you can go home. Tell us the truth and we'll let you leave, be out of here before dinner time. Uh, you don't tell us the truth,

We're gonna whoop your ass because this was wrong. You knew it was wrong. I mean I didn't have to come all different kind of way. I'd have been slapped by the police. Uh. I can say his name, now, what's the fact white boy name in Lanwood. It was the dirty Ones Graves and Uh Graves wanted me and wanted me to do an interview I got. They raided our house, found a lot of gang ship photo albums and all that ship, and they didn't want me to

do a gang interview. Right before this cops ship was coming out the street of the ship cops on TV, and Uh I told him no, I didn't want to do it. Motherfucker's slapped the ship out of me. I didn't do the video, but it was like, goddamn, but I'm handcuffed. I'm sitting there and these people here. I wouldn't sign no release or nothing, and the motherfucker threw

me in the cage. You asked out you, what choices do you have when when you're dealing with the police and they can they can do whatever the funk they want to do with you. You know what I'm saying you. All you can do is just absorb what they got to get what they bringing to you, and you can't do no more. All the holland and want to fight and all of that ship, You're only bringing more ship

to you now. I don't think Reggie right Junr used those types of techniques when you was um bringing people in. I never really had to put my hands on people, but I help put my hands on people. But um, um, what do you think about the aggressive style of interrogation? Um, we didn't get away with that at our department. Won't be honest when we um, I'm not saying we didn't. Wasn't a little heavy handed or stuff like that, but

un necessary ship, Yeah, we didn't. We were mainly more of a city of um, of respect and all of that because we had black, black management. And you get a couple of complaints about that ship there they move your ass. I love you wouldn't want to be no, but a game banger ain't gonna go to the police station and say, you wouldn't believe how many times that's some crazy ship. They pulled us over one day on

Stockton and pans sagging. My parents are sagging, and the mothercker took the billy club across my ass and across the back part of my ass. Bam bam with your pants hanging all that know nothing? Yeah, I mean, come on, I comp all the men, good guys I'm talking about. But what you complaint and if if if you came to complaint and you got two or three complaints like that,

they wrote your ass up. Yeah, But if you're the subject of an investigation like these five kids were the subject of a rape investigation, there's nothing to complain about. You can't who you complain to. They think you're this guil Mama, my mama. I would want some aggressive officers like that if I felt they were the ones that did it. Now, I'm not for creating evidence or are

lying on people. That wasn't what it was about. But as far as setting them in the box and trying to get one of them and then when you get I mean, you get four motherfucker's four with five of them to start telling you the story, and then you start believing it, especially when one started what's that one crack and told them they were down the right and it's obvious they were. They did something wrong with that. I don't know that they're repeating them. Well, that's what

we find out now because Mattia's ris or whatever. We end up finding out his DNA was the one that was that was involved in it, but just had nothing to do with this rape. They were there, I mean, the different parts of the part. They didn't even also let's also say they didn't even know each other. And so but my point is you never give it up. But once if this was my mother or something like that.

And I got one guy that's starting to say, yeah, okay, we're there, we were there, and we did this and did that, I won't start pushing and and stay on the other three or four guys, because why would this guy, you know, in my mind, why would this gonna be copping out to something like that if they didn't do it. Now I understand this. This is a rich white lady, you know, thinks she worked in Wall Street or something like that, or she was a banker or something like

that that that this this happened to. And so of course there was a high profile case, but so unfortunate situation. Um. I hate that the guy's broke down and and and told it. Um you know, and you know, I guess they was exhausted or tired. And only one of these guys ever, and how they came out, they just started they was slap. Okay, this is why a young kid you can't slap, need to make me tell. And they're all teenagers. Awesome, So you got grown as man. Probably

you will sharge your head. You're just so it just it can stop. I'll tell you what you want want want me to say? What I mean, I'll you what you want me to say if you stop hitting me, I might say that, but they ain't said that. They start telling the story of what the costs. They denied

any involvement for hours and hours and hours. Everybody does at the beginning, and then eventually they start to repeat the stuff that they're hearing in the questioned the hits or the slaps or whatever to stop because they say, look, you're not going home, you're not leaving here. And they were slow. That's what people don't know about the kids. The guy, uh, Corey Wise, he you know, he was

depth in the ear or couldn't hear um. You know, his dad, I guess his dad worked for a law a law office, and and he you know, he admitted in the law you know, the lawsuit that he was a little slow and it had a hard time hearing and all of that. A matter of fact, he got tried as an adult. That's the one though, sixteen years old that they tried and he had to go to

an adult prison. Um eventually, but he got a it's called Corey Innocent Project in Colorado, and so he's doing stuff for people, prom bowling on from his money and stuff like that. So shout out to here and keep up the good work, bro. I hate that that happening. I mean, there's that's that's where that that. I know that it happens, and it's unfortunate. But I understand the zealous of law enforcement trying to make a case like

that happen. But how many innocent people went to jail because people eventually, under the pressure of a ten hour interrogation and being immature, are slow. We just eventually say, just put a cap on it. I mean, I think the cops gotta be a little bit more aware of their style of tech, their their technique and interrogation. If the information that this guy is feeding me is the same stuff that I already told them that I know

you did, that's almost being stupid. And that was a good thing about Great Katie's that I liked that a lot. When he said where he pretty much always said things that and that's what a cop, a good cop would have done. Or he said things that kep d didn't know that we knew he told us and that's why

we always believe a story. And so a good cop would press for that because not usually what what I'm axing you, it's the lies that usually get your cart up, And that's what they're trying to focus on, even with trap for another way, how do they get conversated for that? How do why the d A can't see through the man?

She is? OK, let's let's mention her name. The prosecutors Linda fairstea was on he was on next flex board they and she's being um, she's being like, she has to to um, I guess relinquish all these positions that she had on different boards. Also, she's the author of thirty novels and now the publishers of those novels are considering continuing to use her as a writer. People are now on the heads of these publishers say why would you publish Linda Fairstein's books considering what she did to

these five teenagers. So she's going through it right now. But she's gonna go to jail. She's not gonna do no time. But that's that's the point. She should go

to jail. Some people, where's the accountability? Yeah, Well, if the police knew they lie and if they check this out, Reggie, if the police knew they would go to prison for what happened to these five kids, they would completely revamp the style of interrogation because that that would be every time mother's will be like gonna get Reggie Jr. In jail about to go lie and say I robbed the bank and then turn out later I didn't rob the bank.

And but you want to go to jail for robbing the bank for ten years just to get someone in trouble to come out later. And I have James going to say, no, I don't want to rob the bank. That was me. No one want to be saying to a crime and lose their freedom just to get someone in trouble. What y'all just said, what y'all just said was you shouldn't all enforcemen go to jail for when people UH create stuff or absolutely they created a case.

They absolutely created a case against these five people. Know they create a case? They did? They didn't. This has been a digital so much network production