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What The Hell Is Going On?

Mar 09, 20231 hr 3 minSeason 12Ep. 191
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In this episode we ask why athletes are attracted to the thug life, Why Melle Mel needs to step his bars up and has Sean Kemp lost his mind?

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When I wrote, y'all, I'm across the usc Compton watch thank to La from on the California the Valley. We represent that kill of county. So if you're keeping it real on your side of your town, you tune into Gangster Chronicles. The goals. He gonna tell you how we go. If I line my notes will grow like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truth than chronic goals. This is not your average show. You're now tuned into the real mcain, Big James, and Big

Stairs from the streets. Hello, Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the i heeart app and subscribe to the Gangster Chronicles. For my Apple users, hit the purple mica on your front screen, subscribe to the gainst the Chronicles and leave a five star rating the comment we like to welcome everyone to another episode or against the Chronicles podcast and I'm big stealing of course, Jill,

y'all know what to do. Mcaton house. So not that much going on this week outside of the obvious. Your boy Mellie mail he struck. I guess he rubbed a lot of people the wrong way with his comments on the Homye show. He was on Art of Dialogue and he has said something about the Top fifty list and think he said I think I believe what he said was that Eminem wouldn't be ranked as high as he was if he wasn't a white boy. And he said

that don't nobody want to rap like Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, I think he said something like M can't be one of the top five rappers or something because he's white or something shit like that. And then as far as nobody wants to rap like M or Kendrick, I mean I would say, because you probably can't, you know, yeah, you know, it takes a special skill to you know, come up with wordplay. Um not that you know, you know,

saying that. You know, everybody has their own you know, their own swagger or whatever they own, you know, get down. And there's just some dudes that are lyrical. Some dudes, you know, create danceable hits. Some dudes just want to speak to the streets. You know, you niggas who want to party. You know, niggas who want to pop peels and in drink and party with the girls. You know, everybody has their different lane as far as music is concerned. You always got them cats man, who were just you know,

you looked at as just lyrical as a motherfucker. Yeah, And I don't take nothing away from them not being the average one two three four, You give me kicking the door. I want some more type of bullshit. I mean, some motherfuckers have have another plateau to reach as far as who they're trying to get to is what their music and so to each his own, you know, I applaud motherfuckers who can come up with them type of songs.

And let's just you know, it's a different you know, rapping is rapping and then you can make songs and hip ho hop and shit. And Kendrick is one of my niggas who make you know, he made music in his hip hop. Like I said, he's not just you know, you know one two three four type of rapper you know, abc D. You know what I'm saying, it's some dudes who want to break it down. E MC equals too and all that type of ship. Yeah, that's very much, and that's very much of Kendrick and the eminem until

your point earlier. You said that a lot of people can't rep like they do. Them dudes got ridiculous cadences. They are, you know, they're above average, like you said, they're not on the one, two, three, four. You feel what I mean. Everybody's struggle is the same. Let's just you know, I got in the hip hop because of the struggle of being from Compton in the streets, and I wanted to tell the story of what you know, a lot of people didn't understand. Everybody struggle is different.

MS is different, Kendricks was different. You know what I'm saying, Fucking MS is different, Melli's is different. You know, it's different. Plus meal come from a whole different time. We come from a different time. So you know what I'm saying. What you might not feel is your favorite, you know, might be to somebody the greatest. And that's where we got here. You know, that's the nature and the beauty

of being able to have your own fucking opinion. You know it might offend motherfuckers, but sometimes we gotta learn how to just not take a lot of ship personal because you know, you don't like some shit I don't like. I don't like some shit you don't like. I mean, that's just the way the world works. Yeah, but everybody can't agree on every fucking thing. You know, it's dangerous now a days do because your opinion can get you in a whole lot of trouble. Like and people just

my whole thing is this um. Like you said, we not always go agree on everything, all right, but that don't mean we necessarily gotta be in here fist fight neither or you know, me disrespecting you what you disrespecting me because we don't agree on some shit, you know, and they take shit the wrong way sometimes, you know, and there might be some niggas who might take that, you know, real personal, you know, you know, like you know, there have been motherfuckers who have spoken up about you

know what male said. You know, it's other you know, artists who vouch for you know, you know, what they feel is their opinion, you know what I'm saying. And that's just what it is. Everybody gonna have that. But

it's just the way motherfuckers take shit nowadays. You give me your opinion, like you said, could could go laugh on a motherfucker and they could take a real personal and thus you will have a lot of disagreements and beef and then means made and all kind of bullshit, you know, behind what he felt is what he wanted to say about it. Everybody is gonna take that route. And the thing is, he just responded to a question. You know, somebody asked him that question. He had an

answer for it. And I gotta apologize to him because I called him a hater at first, you know, Kendrick

the homie whatever. But of course, but that was his opinion. Yeah, and when I you know, reap more into it, you know, with a little less emotion into it, you know, right, because that's the route, you know what I'm saying, especially if if a motherfucker's speaking on you know, somebody that's you know, you from, you're with, you're cool with, you know, it's people, you know, everybody gonna take that's just like you know, at the time when the motherfucker said fuck

Compton and the raps and ship, we take that ship personal. So but on that note, you know, it's a question he was asked, and he felt like, Hey, you know, I'm one of the pioneers of hip hop. You know, I was there when it started, you know, and then he could feel like, you know, if it wasn't for me. A lot of cats wouldn't even be rapping because I started this shit and what evolved into it fifty years later.

So he has a strong opinion about, you know, feeling how he feel about the so called list, and like I said, that's just one person's opinion too or a few. Whoever decided to make up the list. Can't take it personal because your list could be different than what somebody else say. You know. But the thing is when you get to talking about who the best rap reels, that's like that on being barbershop fadder for as long as we can remember, you know, people arguing about who the

best rapp reels? You know, back in the day he used to beat was it L L cool? MODI? You feel what I mean? And then it comes up to day they may say who's the best rapper Kennedy Lamark, J Cole. It's so it's open to everybody's different opinion

though everybody's different interpolation, you know what I mean. They may you know, I hear some stuff sometimes today, what somebody saying, well, this is the new lyrical, you know, the new super lyricalk you listen to him, I might not think that much of them, but the other person may think he amazing exactly. You feel what I'm saying. I might hear him be like, man, I don't understand this shit. It's like me and Glasses had this debate

and this was no disrespect to nobody. Um, he told me that he thought Snoop Dogg was a better rapper than Buster Rhymes. Okay, now I can see where he may think. You know, Snoop is the best. Snoop is definitely more popular than that, say Buster, but I think Buster is probably a little bit more technical the Snoop. I mean, it all depends on how you look at

it in the times of whatever. You know, I wouldn't even put them in the same category if you just you know what I'm saying, because I don't look at a Snoop dog the way I look at a Buster Rhymes. Yeah, they different artists. It's just too different, you know what I'm saying. And Buster God is just as much respect as Snoop dog In in my nigga lane, you know what I'm saying. Dog got his massive appeal with people,

so do Buster. So to me, when you do shit like that, it's just the difference It's just your opinion, and it shouldn't be taken, you know, to to you know, heart of what of what you know somebody else might feel. Because I'm pretty sure I like a motherfucker, and I might say somebody is better then what his opinion of what the next nigga might be. It's just, it's just all. It's what it is, man, And people shouldn't get caught up in other people's opinions, especially when they come to

who's the greatest rapper of all time? Or who's the greatest basketball player of all time? You know what I'm saying. A lot of that shit is going around right now. You know who's the greatest lebron Is it Michael? You know who's the greatest rapper? They got Jay Z on top. But then somebody might say it's Little Wayne, and then somebody might say it's Snoop Dogg, and then you might get technical and say it's Kindred. Let me ask you a question, man, do you think that sometimes Jay may

give props? Because I do think Jay is definitely one of the top five rappers probably in the world, you know, in the world and hip hop. That's my opinion. I think he's definitely. I think he's definitely up there. I think it gets a little scary when you start talking about the top five. But if I had to say who the top rapper was, just based on everything, man, As far as influencing, just cultural impact, I gotta say, partly a little Wayne Dog. It's probably the number one

rapper of all time right about now. And I know that may be hard for a lot of people to swallow, but look at all the suns he got out there, You feel what I mean? Just like from little Oozy vert to um all these other little cats don't grew their hair out and got dreads and danced around neck him like they high all the time. You feel what

I'm saying. Just I think as far as the influence, man, you know, some people might be up there, like still On lost his motherfucker mind, But that's just from what I see. He had a run. Little Wayne had him a hell of a run. He'd been doing it since he's been sixteen. Yeah, I mean, like I said that, it all depends on how you look at it, because I'm not getting into that category of who is the

fucking greatest of all? Well, you think the most overrated the fuck of all time, it's a gang and their motherfuckers. There's too many of them, too many, it's too many the name and see, I'm not a nigga who causes controversy about trying to name niggas because that's how you get a gang of shit started. Because a lot of times,

I believe your opinion should stay to your fucking self. Really, if it's just yours now, if people want to blast who they feel is the best, but me, I ain't got time for that game because that game leads you down a different role. Especially I play in that game. You get me, I'm in that field. So for me, this nigga right here, I don't know why niggas listen to this motherfucker. You're getting me, And that's how I

feel about some motherfucking rappers. But I keep that to myself because niggas is trying, They trying their best, and they trying to they trying their best, man, and you know it could be a motherfucker that's popular is fucked to some people. But I don't listen to a lot of shit. I really just you know, I try to, you know, stay up on you know who's who and what's what. But you know what I'm saying, I'm an

old school nigga. I don't hate on the new ship because, like I say again, when you got us, when you got a seventeen eighteen year old in the house, then you you hearing everything. You know what I'm saying. But then I'm starting to hear my son play shit like whose world is This? By nas? And he playing, he playing big I heard him bumping Biggie the other day. You get me, So you just never know music could

catch you. You get me. I'm still playing oldies and shit, you feel me, And I'm still playing Tim Prez and Del Ponix and shit like that. But then I'll go bump some scarface and then if I hear something interesting for I'm a new cat, I'm gonna bang that. Yeah, for real. I don't get caught up in that old and young nigga shit like this if the music is side, because I fuck with a little dirt, I with all them will. Dude, you know there's doing anything. Everybody has

there and you have a right to have that. You gotta have. You got a right to have your own opinion about who you feel. You know what I'm saying, Who you feel is the greatest of all time. You had this question asked about a gang of shit who he feels the best boxer of all time. You know what I'm saying, A lot of motherfucker would be like Tyson used to knock motherfuckers out. But then people will be like, shit, Muhammad Ali was the ship, and then people will be like Sugar Ray Leonard was the ship.

So everybody has their different lane. People get caught up when they start, you know what I'm saying. When a motherfucker at these certain spots you get me an, these certain magazines and ship like Billboard. You know, people get caught up because everybody reads Billboard and check it for the charts and all that shit. So now with somebody at Billboard, go here's the top fifty. Motherfucker's just looking at that like, oh, that's the Holy Grail Bible of

motherfucker just put out. You get me. Yeah, it's just another motherfucking nigga's opinion. Yeah real, you know, speaking of um opinions and shit, you said you didn't watch the Chris Rock comedy especially. I didn't watch the Chris Rock. I watched it, man, I thought it was funny. As hell. Man, A lot of people disagree with me. It seemed like I'm getting mixed results. Like people, it is kind of like fifty fifty. I've been hearing that too. I've been

hearing mixed. You know. Some people said it was good, some people said it was I you know, I didn't watch it. I think motherfucker's just knows. They wanted him to talk about Chris Rock the whold with him getting slapped a little bit more because he didn't talk about it until the last ten minutes of the un event, I guess, I mean, how would you feel, what you feel like you needed to speak on that steal, or what you feel you just need to get back to

the regular program. Well again, he didn't speak on to the last ten minutes of the concert, right right, So I think people probably wanted him to expound in that longer, But it was only to me, so much you gonna say about it unless you go, whoop this motherfucker's ass. That's the way. It really too much to talk about. I mean, I guess it's comedy and it's supposed to be taken as you know, humorous, but I didn't take the I didn't take that very I didn't take it humorous.

The Will Smith ship. You're come in the opinion of nigga. If you still talk about it and you still but heard about it, then you need to go get him up. Yeah, And that's just the way I feel about it. You know what I'm saying, Shit happened. You know, it was disrespectful to you, and you know on the stage you was on. You know again, you know they always saying

how it's niggas, you know, do some dumb shit. You know, but if if, if nothing has transpired, But fuck it, what some months a year down the road, I'm gonna be making jokes about it. And you know I watched this movie just to see him get his ass. What that wasn't funny to me? Well, you know, one of the things he talked about was Will Smith being obviously bigger than him man and this and that, and he said that his wife he called his wife a bitch. You know what I'm saying. So you know, I was

sitting up wondering at home. I actually Will Smith at home, like, I'm ana, whoop this motherfucker's ass when I see him, This motherfucker really still playing with me? I mean, do you and I get it. Like I said, it's his little special. He's a comedian, he's got to do the comedian ship, right, Um, but how far do you take

this ship? Well, he only got slapped. I guess he feels like he got license to take this as far as his motherfucker want to go as far as as far as his guy slapped, And really, you know your your retaliation to that is I'm the bigger person, right fuck it. But now I'm like, I'm watching the slave movie to get him, to see him get his ass whipped. Like that was a little bit off to the side for me. You know what I'm saying. I don't want to watch no slave movie and see a motherfucker get

his ass whipped. And I wouldn't take that. That wasn't too much of a joke to me, So it just kind of caught me off guard. Motherfucker, you could have said anything, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. You know what though, man, that the things all of these motherfuckers being the feelings about shit, and I you know, I have to learn how to you gotta learn that ship though. Still, I guess we all have learned to, um not take

shit so personal. You get me personal. I mean times how you how your wife told you, you know, don't sweat that ship or your home. He told you all man, let that shit go away, and I let shit slide all the motherfucking time. Man. And I'm gonna tell you this, man, this is a motherfucker. I want to whoop his ass so motherfucking bad dog. But it's just not worth it. I mean because I mean, it's just not It's not

worth it the end of the day. And at the end of the day, man, we adults, and in order for you to let somebody get you in the place, had to rob rod days. Man. Yeah, I mean, you know, toted pistols and you know, jump out fighting nigga and you know, as soon as the nigga opened his mouth. You know what I'm saying. But I think we didn't did enough for that ship, you know what I'm saying. That's the thing. It's like, it has to be enough because it comes at some point, man, to where in

order for me to feel that way about a motherfucker. Now, don't get me wrong, you're still whooping nigga's as yeah to I mean, but that means you gotta have definitely you gotta really care about that motherfucker that's just near here or there. Now, nigga wolf all the day, Yeah, nigga's wolf all the time. You let the nigga warf all day. But I've always, I've always, you know, been on the ship is nigga don't swing, you ain't talking about shit. So unless you swing, all the chatter is

just chatter. So and if it's just gonna be a gang of chatter, which brought as, will just stop the bullshit and just go about our business. Yeah, you know what it is though, man eight. And this is one thing that I've learned in me getting older, and I would like to think wiser right in order for me to be invested enough to go try to physically fight a motherfucker, that means I have to care about him

first to an extent. And that almost means you've almost seen that you care more about that motherfucker than your freedom, because if you go do something to a motherfucker, because see, when you're fighting it, it's a difference between fighting as a grown ass man and fighting as a little kid. Shit get personal because it ain't just like you scrap a motherfuck up. He just walk away. Some motherfuckers is coming back. Some people can't take that. They say, oh yeah,

this mother embarrass me. He's gonna come back and get me. Because I know if I do get in the fight with a motherfucker, now, it's going to the end. I'm not playing with nobody because it's gonna take a lot to get me there. Yeah, that's what I say. Man, we've we've had to deal with a lot of that shit, you know what I'm saying. And like I said, a lot of times, you know, nigga sell a lot of wolf tickets and you are to be able to let that ship bounce off because you'll find yourself shooting at

a motherfucker because of nigga wolfing too motherfucking much. You know what I'm saying. The nigga let your fire so motherfucking bad. You just ready to do away with a nigga. But we we I think growing up, we didn't dealt with a lot of that, and so when niggas talk and niggas have opinions about you, it's just best to let a nigga talk. Now, younger generation, you know it is what it is because we already know how that happens a rapper have an opinion about your song nowadays,

is it's gonna come to fistic cuffs. So it's gonna come to pistols. You know a lot of nig a lot of niggas dying nowadays, you know, in our in our game, because you know, niggas are highly over opinionated about shit. And it's just like nigga, I don't even know that nigga, but that nigga, it's shit whack, it's shit weak. Who this nigga? You know, it's just crazy, man.

But like I said, we lived the young ship before too, so I kind of understand where the youngsters come from because, like I said before, one time you get that mentality that the nigga can't tell you shit, and niggas don't know how to take that, especially youngsters. You know, a nigga get up there and tell them all, Nigga, your shit whack, or your song is weak, or y'all weak over there, your crew aint shit, or your beats is nasty. That that shit, that's that's worser right now than gang

banging on the nigga set or some shit. Nigga, be ready to take your more fucking ass out for over your opinion. Yeah, man, And it's crazy out here man, you know speaking to young people. Man, what you think of this drummer wrench ship? Uh, I don't know what little a little homie from um from from what it's been, you know, floating around. They say, my nigga came from the burbs, you know, Um, But I don't know what his life was growing up? You know. Was he a

hood nigga? Did he grow up in the hood. Was he influenced by hood niggas? You know what I'm saying, was his daddy your hood nigga? You know? Um? Sometimes youngsters gravitate to that ship. You know, it's fascinating, you know what I'm saying, Um, it's fascinating the gang bang. Man, it's fascinating to be associated with a set and you know, homies and you know, and and that a feeling leation, that love is what a lot of niggas you know, be on with that. And the only diea was flash

the pistol, right, they say he flashed a pistol. They say he'd been throwing up to see a lot you know what I'm saying. So, because it's not the first incident. You get me now, my nigga, You know he benched because you know he was in the club. They was wilding out. I mean, it wasn't like he was pointing it at the camera and shit like you know, I think he was holding it up like this, you know, but you're still in the clear. Yeah, and at the

end again he young, still yeah, he young. But you know what, that motherfucker making a lot of money with making all that paper come a big responsibility. But but listen to what I'm saying though, eight he out there flashing the gun, right, he know he ought to out there flashing the pistol. Man, you played for the NBA, my guy. Yeah, it's not like I think with the problem meals with the these young football players, these young basketball players, they want to be rappers. They are very

influenced by that ship. I had to tell my own son, man, take that shit out your mouth. Take that you're not no fucking rapper, no football player. I mean, the the rap game influences. I mean it influences and sometimes it's not all for the better because I mean the same ship with me. I mean, like you we got sons. You know what I'm saying they got their beats, headphone zone, or they got they whatever, and they got their boom boxes and whatever. And you hear what they bumping. You

know what I'm saying. They bumping the They bumping the hood niggas of their generation. Shit, they bumping the little babies and the NBA young boys and all them type of niggas. And then niggas is representing the block and they want to fun and they want to fuck with that lifestyle so bad. And I'll be telling them, it ain't what the fuck you thinking. He was all that shitsu. It's a it's imaginary up in that ship. I was

gangbanging and I grew up in it. And I tell my son like all the time, like it wasn't fascinating. It's imaginary. All that shit. There's an image portrayed on television and the magazone. They're trying to serve it. You know, niggas coming through dumping every other night, we handcuffed, getting thrown in the holding tank. You know you're not thinking

it's no motherfucking hope. You know what I'm saying. When you sixteen seventeen nigga and all you know is gang banging and niggas getting shot at, killed and drugs selling, and you know, that's that was it. Y'all have a path today, you get me. Niggas had all that shit they got today, the training schools and the trainers and the good shit, all that good shit. Man living their

life talking about being a fucking rapper. And that's what I had to explain in my son, I see it, dude, that lifestyle that the rappers betraying and his videos on television, that's like a movie sent that is not real. They're not really, you know, because if you asked the average young nigga to play football or basketball, they think motherfucker's is just chilling around in the room somewhere with brawls, just walking around with bottle service and all kinds of shit.

It's like that sucks bullshit. No, No, that's a hard life you come from when you know. And don't get me wrong, there's a lot of perpetrators who didn't come up that hard who you know. But for the most part, the story of the hood rapper is the struggle nigga. You get me. Dad was in jail, you know, Mobs was on drugs or you know, we was living in poverty, and you know, and you was living in the hood and your home meet him banging, and he claiming a set,

so you might as well. And that's the struggle. You ain't the struggle really when you got mom and dad at home and you're living in a nice area and you don't got to go through none of that. You gotta go out there on the block at twelve o'clock at night trying to slang motherfucking pieces just to be able to eat. And you got a full course me you're waiting for you when you come home from school. You get that type of shit. You don't struggle to have a dream of Damn nig I'm out here, and

what the fuck am I gonna do? I have no idea what's going on? Motherfucker? Your shit is you set? You're going to training every day. You've been playing football, basketball, and baseball since she was three or four. You know, we didn't have that setup. Yeah, I wonder what that eels. Man, That motherfucker's that was raising the suburbs want to be a thug till motherfucking bad. Fascinating. Still, it's still fascinating.

That's just like when we started, when when niggas started rapping back in the days, and and the white people, you know they you know, they was on their ship. But then next thing you know, their kids start putting on Raiders caps and T shirts and ship. It influenced the motherfucker. It's the same shit. The kids that grow up in suburbia. Now they see, you know, the little babies with all the platinum change on pulling up in

the rolls roys all the bitches around. They see the NBA young boys talking about Nigga, and Nigga up and Muthy won't. And then you get there roll the house like yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying. It influences, motherfucker. It's crazy because you wake it up at the nice, bad war of house every day, you eat every day, and the dick is telling you about here killing diggers and I'm in the struggle and I had to sell dope and I've been in jail fifty times and the

whole me so and so got killed. And then Nigga's up there like shit, he love you. Don't fuss with the BMF shit, do you. I've been watched it. The homie rich he loves to be a math shit Oh, he calls me every day and tells me the new episode that he loved be a math. You gotta watch that shit. Kind of It's kind of interesting right now because I know it's the dude the blue Da Vinci Cat is going around making his rounds to refute everything that's going on in the movie. Now. Oh, is that right? Yeah,

you knew. Whenever they have you know, whenever they come out with these like kind of like biopic type things, it's always gonna be a motherfucker was a party ship that's gonna come Hell, No, that's bullshit. That's not how that happened. That's not how this happened. Because everybody got their own version of the ship that they live. They ain't necessarily wrong. You know, everybody has their own insight on how they felt, you know, the workings of that

ship was. Hey, you know, anybody who claimed that they was around at any certain time, you know, it might have been this era, that era. It don't matter. If they feel like, you know, I was there and saw all the workings, then of course their story is gonna be always different. I guess why we always have different biopics of the same ship. Yeah, I mean motherfucker's told the story of Malcolm X or Martin or the story because whatever, everybody got their own version. Ship on fucking version.

They got the own version. You don't with Snowfall either, do you. I was fucking with Snowfall. Shot shout out you know Rescipece, John Singleton. John Singleton gave me my first you know, soundtrack work when I did Growing Up in the Hood for Boys in the Hood movie. So when Snowfall came out, I definitely was on the series. I've seen John's uh somewhere, I don't know. He was at a party of club somewhere and right before he

passed he had in. I didn't me down to the set, and I was supposed to go down there, but unfortunately, you know, he had passed. That ship was crazy, so you probably would have wound up in that motherfucker. Shout out yea, I said, shout out the job single the rest in peace. Always do good projects, man, and especially when it comes to telling our story. You know what I'm saying. He's always done good picks, man, and I was safe for the most part, man, since he's died.

To me, they've done a good job of maintaining the integrity of the script because sometimes it loses integrity, especially when the when the dudes vision that brought it to light is not you know, they're no more unfortunately, but you know it's been going strong man, yea strong and the crazy part of body is a lot of them people, that's the main characters in the cast ain't even from

La not alone, not from La. They from England, but they so convinced and even the Franklin Saint James do even walk like he from La not shout out to the Homi dubbling that shout out to the Homye dub seeing the homie CJ McK. You know, they're doing a lot of the um the scripts of vices. Yes, they're doing a lot of the scripts of advice and stuff to make sure them cats is on point as far as the way they're doing something. So you definitely got

to commend them on that because that's all him and Dubbed. Definitely, that's all him and dub as. You need that real insight instead of trying to create it on your own. I mean, you know, it's good that they reach out to, you know, people like dub and uh. You know, CJ. Because you know, like I said, we lived a lot of this shit. So who better didn't tell the story than the people who walked the streets and lived it and know, you know what's real and what's not real,

you know, And that's for shore man, you know. Um, I know Rick Ross was real salty about that. Not the rapper Rick Ross, but the real Rick Ross. Yeah, he was salty because he felt like they did, you know, impetered upon his life story without including them. It kind of you know, it kind of takes that route a little bit. I mean, if you really look at it, Um, if you know the story or Rick Ross, you know what I'm saying. A freeway Rick is what we'll call him,

so we don't get people confused. Um, I mean, especially cats from LA we all knew the story a freeway Rick, So I can, you know, I could, I can kind of you know, see where he coming from there, especially with watching the story. But the same thing happened with him with with you know, the rapper ship, with Rick

Ross and the name and all that shit. You know, it's not like unfortunately, it's not like too many people gonna you know, try to give my nigga credit or you know what I'm saying, because they still look at it as the shit negative of what he took place in.

So you know, it ain't like a motherfucking judge or something that's gonna be kind of you know, on your side, your side, you know, because knowing your past history, you know, with all the dope, because he wasn't only one by any means that was selling dope off Central LA, but he sold a whole lot of them. Oh yeah, like I said, if you're from LA and you are old school, and even if you knew school, you know the story of your freeway, Rick, you know what I'm saying. That's

what I'm saying. He was one of them, dude, And so he probably not gonna get too much sympathy because you can almost say the crack epidemic man destroyed the decimated the black community. Man, it fucked a whole bunch of good neighborhoods up. I saw what happened, dude, Oh definitely,

I know. Like I said, being right here that lays as a kid, you know, around that time in the early eighties, shit that it was vicious because didn't it seem like the neighborhood was already kind of teetering a little bit, but it was still nice in a certain way. And it was like when that crack hit, it's like the homie that would have had a job in a nice car, that was the cool dude turned into a fiend.

And then then it was that happened. You know, you were seeing you will see motherfucker's you went to school with high school and you know the the the tough nigga, you know, the good football player, basketball player, or you see the bomb cheerleader or the baddest bitch in school, and shit, now that motherfuckers strung out and high as

a motherfucker. So it did. It did turn a lot of motherfucking people, you know, and it sucked the streets up because it was it was lucrative, man, you know for young cats like myself, who you know, was in that era of you know, poverty stricken and you know, living in Comton and you know, trying to make ends, meeting you know, single parent home and shit like that.

Hell yeah, it influenced you, especially when you could get out there and make you a couple of hundred dollars a night, and if you was good with it, you was making a couple of thousand, and you know you being in the rep game because you would started blowing up around the time being Meth and him and start taking off. M Did you ever have any encounters with them to David fuck with you, Nah, I never had any encounters. Like I said, I was in my error. Man,

we just you know, I stayed. You know, Um, I didn't really fuck with too many people. You know, I fucked with a lot of people on a personal level. I just didn't fuck with too many people because you had to be very cautious, just like you have to now. You have to be very cautious. So the motherfuckers you was around, and who you knew, who knew where you lived, all that shit. Um, it's not a cliche, man, motherfuckers

would have got your ass. And in that era of gang banging and rapping and all that shit, you just got the enemies on the strength. Yeah, for sure, you just got enemies on the strength man, of of of just from the gang era, you know what I'm saying. So now that you turned in the rappers and shit like that, that still don't mean nothing. You still got enemies from way back. So you know, you have to be very cautious. How you moved, who you fucked with, and you know where you laid your head at and

shit like that. You have to be very limited about information like that, you know, from what we seeing out to Damn motherfucking google up your ship real quickly. Yeah, go, And we're seeing this shit that's happening with the cats like um, the Young Thug Cat and the Gunna Catt and all these cats, you know, catch and recal cases, right because if you wanted them rappers and you'd like to hang out with the ballers and the d boys and shit like that, you know, you can fuck around

and find yourself a part of motherfucker's conspiracy. Oh hell yeah. I mean now that they're taking you know, you know it's I don't know, you know, they're taking the rappers, they're taking the lyrics and using them again something and shit. And but you know, some niggas ain't smart, you know what I'm saying. Some niggas are actually rapping about what they're pulling off and what's taking place in their situation.

So you gotta you gotta, you gotta you gotta step you know, real cautiously right now in this hip hop game especially if you, you know, portraying the image of being, you know, a true street motherfucker, and real street motherfuckers know what I'm talking about, Like a real nigga who's had his hand in the pot. You know, a real nigga who's been out there, you know, pistols and work

and just representing the hood. You know, that shit can get you caught up nowadays, because like I said, nowadays, dudes like to be a little braggadocious about their situations, you know, and niggas don't mind getting on. You know, they don't mind banging on wax. You know nowadays, eigga, get on, nigga, get on wax today and they'll call you out and they're talk about we'll pull up and you know, we at your grandmama's house, were at your

mama's house. We we It don't matter where you at, where you at the studio, where you at the club. That's how it goes nowadays. Niggas had no problem in going here's my location, so come through. I don't know if just to prove toughness or you know, you want to have that reputation like we're in to be fucked with. You get me So that's how really it is it

is today with a lot of the young cats. You know, um niggas want to really show they they they they block affiliation or you know, fuck this rap shit, nigga. We can you know, we can, we can draw pistols, or we can get them up, you know whatever. You know. So I think niggas are really they're really sensitive on showing they you know, my my loyal te to what I say. You know, if I wrap about nigga, I pull a Draco on you and I send thirty shots at you. Then most of the time some of the

niggas is real about it. You're here the next day all they caught so and so up and he got the a K in the back and he shot at four five people. Well you can tell they don't have a couple of these little niggas. They don't pick up from murders and shit like that. Yeah, they was going back to back for a minute, like yeah, you know, motherfuckers is getting arrested, Like damn this dude, like one of these motherfuckers. My son used to listen to man

a kid from Florida. Man, it's motherfucker killed all kind of motherfuckers said he was riding around the car with a dead body or some shit like that. But but then, you know what I'm saying, coming from man, coming from that shit, it's unfortunate that, you know, some of my niggas can't enjoy the fruits of the labor because because of wanting to you know, not even proved, but just wanting to show a mother fuck of that. You know, I'm just as you know, I'm really from this life.

I'm really about this. So it's unfortunate that you know. Now it's like more than ever because it's a lot of control by a lot of the youngsters, man, and a lot of the youngsters want to prove that, you know what I'm saying, whether it's rap or whether it's the block they claim or whatever. Nigga, we're just harder than you. You know what I'm saying. If you really got to go out and I got there after I come out the studio, if I got to go out and I gotta go dump on the nigga, then fuck it.

That's what we do because we bout that life and it ain't no bullshit. But it's unfortunate because when you're trying to transition. You know what I'm saying, you want to transition. You don't want to be you. You know what I'm saying, you don't want to be coming off the basketball floor and then going to the hood still claiming that you don't want to come out the studio. It's funny what you're saying, my nigga. You know all this shit we're talking about now, You're not gonna believe this.

X NBA stars Seine Kemp booked on felony drive by a shooting charge. Former NBA stars Shine Kemp was arrested tonight Wednesday and booked in the Pierce County, Washington jail in connection with a drive by shooting. Tocome A police said an altercation between occupants of two vehicles near the Tacoma Mall led the shots being fired early Wednesday afternoon.

No injuries reported, and one of the cars fled the scene, According to a release from the police department on social media, A gun was recovered and an investigation his own going. Online records for Pierce County showed that Kemp, fifty three, was booked on the felonye drive by a shooting charge at five fifty eight pm local time. About four hours

after the incident. Kim was a six time NBA All Star who played fourteen seasons in the league, including eight with the Seattle SuperSonics, who selected him seventeenth overall in nineteen eighty nine draft. Now, this motherfucker's fifty three years old. What the fuck is he out there doing drive by shootings for the somebody them rolled rage pissed him off. That shit. He ain't out there banging or nothing like that. But like I seen what the way they put it though.

Now I wonder if had that been a white kid, had that been a white guy what they called it, they had just been a regular shooting, But since he was black, they said it was a drive by. They said, it's been Sean Kip, the committing dug the vh CA and he to his you know, you put a dig int the whip. As soon as he put off and he get it to a confrontation with a digg it he started busting out the car. They gonna say, that's

a motherfucking drive by the other fucking Caucasian. That's a digger. Now, if it was a Caucasian or something Bills, then it probably would have been the car to car shooting or rolled rage. So that's exactly what they would have you seeing a white dude would have just got the fuck about the car and want to shut him. Mother. It just rolled rage. He I if if it would have been the same scenario, it would have been old rage. Okay, that's what it wouldn't have been titled a drive by shooting.

That's some nigga shit. That's what they label. It's niggas on So they said, Sean kipt out their motherfucker banging on it. And that's what it sounded like to a motherfucker to read the headline. You gonna think, man, what the fuck? Seane Kip up there, pull them drive buys off, nigga hit them with them banging. Yeah, you hit them with the double lasts on him, nigga, real quick, SuperSonics nigga then boom boom boom boom. You know it. This

shit ain't funny, my nigga. No, it's not. Because you know, but that's that's like you said the news media and and because of I don't know, like I said, why would you call that a drive by shoot? There is, it's a car to car shooting, it's road rage. Shooting. It's whatever, But I guess the scenario is because he and the car black with the pistol, he drove by some niggas and star busting. So nigga drive by and

this is what they said. This is what the police said that one fifty pm and the altercation between the occupants of two cars led the shots being fired at a parking lot and a forty five hundred block of South Steel Street, or they was on my streets or what so what you call that? If a car the car altercation and then shots fired. Yeah, and the ain't nobody got hit. A gun was recovered. The fifty three

year old Mail was booked for drive by shooting. The investigation isn't going They just sound like they make it sound like Sean Kemp was at the end of the park about to put his rag over his face to hold the home. He hit the gas, Yeah, he said, hit the gass. They saw them niggas inside the mall. They're gonna follow them. They see what car they get in, so they follow them niggas. When they get ready to pull out the parking lot, Sean Kimp pull up on

the side. Nigga, you know what it is? And they ain't hit no motherfucker about They said what nobody can't hit man? But nigga did he give the go to the shoot man? Sean killed me to go get this aar P card and go sit this old ass down some motherfucking where. You know there's some that's me. That's I saw the niggas coming up about the mall, Nigga, and I'm about the lad them now. The niggas hackled me like twenty years ago, and I was playing it.

This motherfucker out here shooting that motherfucker's talk about the mall. Man, This shit sounds crazy. Nigga ain't hackled me at the game one time, Nigga, I remembery man, you can make this shit up. Have you heard any of the Million Meals records recently? Like some of the new shity've been trying to nah nah, I haven't heard any of the new ship. I'm gonna tell you this, and the opinions on this show it right. I've heard it, and I'm gonna give somebody this claimer. The opinions on this show

are that of our own. My opinions are my opinions. Don't get on eight page talking shit to him about some shit. I don't see it here because I don't give a fuck. Ain't here. I ain't a motherfucker rap.

I ain't gonna like your name. You know. I try to be courteous with a nigga, and because I come from this motherfucking field, so I know how it is to make, you know, decent music and try to struggle with with you know, just trying to come up with decent and good material that motherfucker's are gonna be interested in. And you know, and no disrespect to Melly mao, but you know, when you you know, when you've been in the marathon a long time, sometimes you can fall off

and lose a little stamina. You know, my nigga be in the gym though he'd be working out, but he'd be puffed up like a motherfucker. But sometimes you know, um, and I'm not one to say, uh, you know, a nigga should put down a mic and retire and shit like that because of your age. Because I'm the type of motherfucker that if you can do what you do and you love it, and and you got motherfucker's to telling you, you know, we respect it, and you know we want to hear you didn't do it. It don't

matter if Mellie Mail given his opinion. We're gonna be fair about this shit. I'm gonna play you the last melliemail verse I heard. I'm gonna show you some shit. You have to be able to adapt to the times a little bit. You get me. Now, it's one thing and having your little signature thing you do whatever, like you know, niggas know I'm Jia. You know that's my little shit. But your ship still can't sound like you're rapping in nineteen eighty when you're trying to compete in

twenty twenty three. You get me, And I don't give fuck who you are not saying that. You know your subjects can't be talking about a situation you want to display from the past or whatever. But you have to be able to deliver shit that people are gonna be able to get into. And that's just one thing about me, you know, if you want to be able to have an opinion and compete in this day and age, it's one thing that I had a respect of being one

of the pioneers or whatever. But if you still want to get in this motherfucker arena and play around you can get your ass socked too. You get me. And that's just how it is. If you want to be able to compete, and you gotta be able to hang, you gotta come up with new ship to be able to at least get some of these people to be interested in listening to. But let's see what Milliemail working with right now. Look at the boggy that's there. That's

the signature raw man. If you go go up there doing an ugger the booker that you need to keep your motherfucker mouth clothes about the little Homies dog and tighten up your own ship. It's like, I got the ultimate respect for Milliemail Man, the ultimate respect for him what he's done. The message is probably one of the

best hip hop verses of all time. Though. Yeah, the message was something like, you know, I considered the message one of those records that you know, um got me to want to go on that path of telling hood tales. You know what I'm saying. They talked about the poverty and going to school and not learning shit, and basically they error as far as trying to be you know,

black and whatever. But this error is different, you know what I'm saying, And I said, you can have an opinion about you know, Kendrick or em or you know, but there's a lot of motherfuckers who think they're great, you get me, and it's proven in their their music, their sales. You know, people you know flock to their concerts. You get me. Um, It's just unfortunate that, you know, some people have those opinions where they feel, you know,

they should be mentioned higher. And sometimes you just gotta be you know, you just gotta be proud of what you've accomplished and what you've been able to leave as far as the hip hop legacy concerned. You know what I'm saying, because you know, I never disagreeing, Master Millie mill Man. I'm one of the motherfucking forefathers of hip hop and that should be you know, that should be your comfort lane right there. At all? What has come from me being a part of this era that started

and look at where it is now. You know, you got motherfuckers, You got diggers rapping about all kinds of shit right now, you give me. Niggas got all kind of different styles and not all started because of niggas like y'all. You're getting me, yep, and ain't nobody got mad at you one time, Big Honey, for you doing you.

I'm not I'm not the distry, you know what I'm saying, not saying disry respectful type, because there's a lot of niggas out here who don't give a fuck about the nigga who came before them, you know, And I never want to be in that position. Whether your opinion is your opinion or not. Whether if you feel Kendrick is the the thousandthith rapper of all time, whether you feel like Eminem shouldn't be on the list because he's white, whether you feel like a nigga who use auto tune

like Little Wayne shouldn't be recognized. They are loved by who loves them. And that's where you should take pride in going some ship that we started has evolved all the way to ship. It's a gang of white boys now rapping. You get me. It ain't just remember back at our days, it wasn't number motherfucker Vanilla Ice and by this time, man, if we don't want to acknowledge the Eminem is a bad motherfucker dog, dude, you just a hater if you can't acknowledge that the motherfucker rap

the motherfu rap? Do I let now now? Like I said, do I play eminem music. I've played songs. I used to bang the hill out of Slim Shady when it first came out. You get me. There's a gang of shit I liked, and then there's a ship I did like, but it wasn't my It wasn't my position to go, oh, this motherfucker can't rap because he a white boy. I mean, you had to get a nigga props. He could spit. Just like there's Little Wayne songs that I liked from when he was with you know, Hot Hot Boys. You

know I banged the whole Hot Boys album. That ship was fired. The Hot Boys had the coldest shit ever. When I first heard them Nigga's first album and they had that shit, I'm on fire. I said, no disrespect the Little Wayne, but theygg A. BG is my nigga from BG. I'm gonna tell you what. Nobody fucking with juvenile in that group back then. I listened to Juvie a little bit, but I was a BG fan vs. Man. They was like when him and Little Wayne was like

little kids. Bust was hard as a mother. But didn't BG always sound like a grown ass man and nigga had that voice. Man, niggas hard as a motherfucker. Man, you just shout off to BG free BG man right now, I think they see't he about to come on? Man? Like I said, I, it's just what you like. Man, it's your preference of what you like. I'm a nigga who likes scarfacing BG and you know, but I'm a I'm a nigga who liked it, tried called quest and

fucking LLL coo J and fucking nas. I'm shit, I'm a nigga who liked it a little bit of TI and a little bit of Gez at one point, you know, I liked motherfucking Souls and Mischief and the Conscious Daughters. Oh yeah, I was so missies. You know what My favorite motherfucking song here is from the Motherfucker's This is how we chilled from ninety three. I mean, man, that was my ship. Music is meant to satisfy the ear man.

You know what I'm saying. And it shouldn't even be a color line of nigga because I tell you right now, I play some Fleetwood Mac, I play some Pink Floyd. I turned around and play some motherfucking Roy Ayers and some motherfucking you know, there's no fucking preference. Do you feel what I'm saying? But you know where the els eight the air that we come from. Dog, I think you gotta remember we was We was before hip hop

music was out there. Remember I used to have motherfucking I had Pink Floyd's album The Wall because we didn't have no motherfucking music. It wasn't no music. I used to play The Wall like a motherfucker. So you know, um dadn Bluefly, That's that's what you listen to. Johnny Guitar, Wasson or motherfucking or I'd listen you know, rap dirty or some shit like that. That's what we listened to. And then you had to listen to pop shit. There was a lot of pop shit floating around it. Man.

The motherfucker was listening to Cindy Lauper and everything was just listening to Culture Club and all that. Motherfucker. Don't knock it off everybody's clubs. Why I say, man, music was just meant to if it sound good, motherfucker sound good, if it makes you feel good and it's bumping, it don't matter even from like I said, from Snoop Dogg to motherfucking eight to motherfucking Ronnie Jordan to motherfucker Cindy Lauper to motherfucking Fleetwood Mac to motherfucking earth Wind and Fire.

There shouldn't be a preference of what you should listen to. If you like it, you like it. And if you want to give motherfucker's your opinion about what you feel is the greatest music to you, then that's your opinion. But don't get caught up because oh, the motherfucker from Billboard said this, or the motherfucker from this paper said this, or the people from this motherfucking show said this. It's a gang of us who got different opinions. You get me.

A gangster chronicle is gonna have a different opinion than my nigga's podcast next door. They gonna have a different opinion than Eat my Taco. Eat my Taco is gonna have a different opinion than you know. But that's what the world is, man. You got the right to have that shit. So if Mellie Bell want to say, hey, I don't think he should do this, I don't think you just like you said earlier, he asked the motherfucker asked him a question, and he gave his answer to

how he felt. Oh you know, did you ever see that when he's talking about old school rappers and I'm ladies of motherfucker on Ice won't know if you saw it. Did you see the big daddy came versus karis One versus No, I didn't see that man's one little big daddy. Kane's up. I've been, like I said, both of them niggas I banged. You couldn't tell me to see you bang some big daddy can especially the whole. I love one of the greatest, but caress One is just a

er motherfucking animal though, dog. He wasn't playing on that motherfucker. He was really trying to battle. You know that. That's gonna make me go bump that ship right. This seemed like Kane was coming out there just on some shit, like trying to step to me. I think you should know that, ain't Did you see that ship Bran the carross one getting his ass? You see it was closer, man. I don't think cares I love I'm a caress One phonetic Now I love cares One, dog, but I love

Kane too. Though the Kane was banged, nigga, That motherfucking the album was the Ship Man, I bang that whole album. You know what, man, I'm gonna ask you a question, Right, You remember when the Ghetto Boys, when Willy D left the group? Right? Yeah? Do you think that if Big Mike, Willie D, and Scarfreez got together and made a new Ghetto Boys album to be the hardest gettaboy album of all time? Right now? Yeah? I think it would be cracking. I mean, but you know, we have so much resistance

from the young generation of our music. You know, it would really probably go well with our generation of hip hop fans. But it's just unfortunate that the youngsters, you know, sometimes don't you know, like the representation that US as rappers had from the past. You get me no disrespect, but you know, the world's you know, it's a lot of little oozy vert fans and it's a out a little you know, you know, little baby fans and NBA

young boy fans, and it's just that generation. You think they might have been going for too long now, No, because you know, um, like I said, you still have niggas like me around, niggas like you around. They're still niggas in our generation around that appreciate good hip hop music. Yeah, I think it'd be hard. I think Mike was a good addition to the group. Mike was the shit. You know, even this solo project, so I'm serious, was the ship. Oh yeah, big Mike, don't put off some classic ass

motherfucker music. We had to get him on here live and shit. Man, Well, I think it's time for us to check out. Man. We gotta get some concrete though. Yeah. Man, we're gonna get on this road man, So you know, y'all know what it is, man. Yeah, And what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna tell y'all to go click the links below and go check out our merch. All right, and we got of here we go, see y'all next week. Well, that concludes another episode of Against the Crime Nicles podcast.

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