You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles with James McDonald, Regie Reich Jr. And Alex Tomonzo on the Digital Soapbox Network material Witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun and um they believe this might be in retaliation to her testimony. Thank you for tuning into another episode of The Gainst the Chronicles. On this episode, me and James had honor in the privilege of sitting down with the legendary warrings. He had a long beach. Enjoy the show.
For the past few episodes, we've been recording everything via zoom due to the coronavirus practice and social distance and whatnot. Hopefully you guys all safe out there. We'll be back in the studio real soon. Appreciate you coming on, taking your time about to talk to her brother. It's all good, man, yeah, all the time, as like as I'm good, I'm good. Uh you know, just still doing me was like uh uh brilli into the barbecue sceing uh with with sauces
and rubs. You know, just you know, just that's it, man, and just you know, trying to get these kids right and make sure they do something like all the time. That's a good thing. But I want some of that bobbecue sauce. Man, I get I got you, Yeah, I got ja. Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna do a bobbycute this this summer. I want to try, yes, And then I don't do hot stuff. Okay, I got a hot ship. I got, I got a original I got, I got, I got got the old. I call it to O
G sauce. I have O G smokey, but the like you said, you don't like that. And then I got a O G spicy, but I ain't I send it anyway, just in case you got people that like the spicy, uh, the spicy sauce. And then too rubs rub the beef rub, and and I got a rub that you could use on chicken, uh, pork fish. Uh it's been good man, I ain't gonna lie. Yeah. I know a couple of people that make their own house sauce. How you getting
into that? Man? How did you just just say one day you want to make some sauce and uh you Uh, well, my dad he uh he was a cook in the navy, and uh he used to cook in box in the navy, and and uh all he did was cooked, you know, for so he used to make sauces and stuff. So I just used to watch what he do and I just started trying it myself, you know, starting off with the catch up way. But I I gotta put a twist in my sauce that I have. Now it's got a little bit of a different twist and ain't too
two tomatoes, but it's it's it's nice. I'll tell you. You're gonna be like, God, damn this ship good. Oh yeah, ready, but I'm really trying. You see, I'm seeing my wife, but my dad. Uh, I've learned from just watching my dad. Man. It just you know, just started you know, mixing, trying different flavors out. And uh, I'm like shop I barbecue all the time. I've been doing it for so long. Everybody like when you need to Bob shopper get your own sauces and rubs and stuff. So I did it
and it's and it's it's it's pretty good. I'm happy about that, man, especially what's going on right now. We can't do he other business. Well, I wish I had some I could did it, Damn me something at this time? Yeah, well you did speaking speaking of Long Beach Man, let's go back to the beginning, right, Uh huh. You was always known man. It was a record store man called veiled with him the ground on the north Long Detroit.
Uh huh. There was an old white guy that they always tell me, man, it's a dude to hear man, they'd be buying, you know, getting old because I was going there getting albums to get the samples and stuff like that. Yeah. Yeah, so I was hearing about you like before, and even you know, all popped off. Man. Let's go back to the beginning. Snoop was originally Guilt Artist something. Well, we was a group. Uh we were far far. We started out our name was three too
hard Way. But then once we uh we should we when we were this one, we was like we was on the spot back then, and uh and we was on the spot, you know, serving and we were still trying to do the music. And uh so we named ourselves two one three the area because we was listening to uh four, I'm high by the way, y'all, don't
don't mind men, I just smoke. But so when we were listening to five and uh at that time, we was like, shoot, well let's let's represent two one three, which was our area, which is Long Beach Compton watch l A. You know, well, let's let's wrap our area and uh that uh that that's that's I mean, that's just where where where things started. Uh. But we was always a group. Man, he wasn't my artist. I was just trying to push too, for us to get known, you know, for somebody to sign us, you know. So
that's that was my whole thing. I was just pushed into the max, just just trying to make it happen for us. No. I just wanted to know how you want how you wind up the Devil Doors with Snoopers. Well, um that started. Um well we was at that time. We had we had put had a a mixtape out called Long Beach Is a Motherfucker and uh well we did is uh and we were just passing it out all around the neighborhoods and everywhere from all with l A. Compton watching everything. Everybody and knew us, and uh we
I mean we just was pushing. We was at the Told Jam. You remember, I don't know if you remember the Told Jam about still Downtown. Remember that Roger Roger, Uh Roger, Uh God damnit Roger what that used to be at the Uncle James's army. He was the one who was the Roger Roger Clayton. Yeah, we just we used to be pushing, you know, through the told jam and just everywhere a little club and stuff. And uh, I mean I had uh I hadn't talked to that niggat well, but I hadn't talked to Drake and uh
a long time. So I hit him and I was like, man, you know what's up. You know, I wanna see you man, I want to line up with you. So he was like, come up here. My boy l A. Dre is having a bachelor party, so you could come. So I was like, shit, okay, So me one of my buddies, his name is Ride, and who else was it? Me and Ride? We was Me and Ride. We went up there and they was playing music and uh, they ran out of stuff to play, so they were starting to play stuff again. So I
told l A. Dre. I was like, look, man, let me pop this tape in, you know, just to play the music for you guys to see how they like it. So I popped the tape in and played it and there was a song that we had called Long beaches a motherfucker and uh you know, uh l A. Dre was like, who is that? Now? I was like, that's me and my buddy Snoop and they dog and uh so he was like, hey, Dre, listen to this. Listen to this. So Drake came over and he listened, and
he was like, who was that? You know. I'm like, that's me, my homeboy, Snoop and my homeboy and Nate Dog. So he was like, man, that's so he was like, y'all come up to the studio on Monday. So I was charged up. I was like because I had I just I didn't see I hadn't seen Drey and I don't know how it was a really long time, and uh so I was charged up. You know, I was charged up. So I went back down the Long Beach and uh, me and Snoop a kind of bumped heads.
So we wasn't really we wasn't really like uh talking at that time, and he had some other dudes in his ear and stuff trying to like kind of break us up. So I called Snoop and I told him, I was like, look, man, Dre heard our music. He wants to come to the studio. On Monday, and uh and uh, Snoop was like, Nigga fucked us and then he hung the phone up on me, and uh so I called him back and I was like, Snoop, please, man,
just listen, just let me call. Let me call him on the three Way and let him tell you that he wants to come up on us to the studio on Monday. So I called on the three Way. I was like, Dre, I got Snoop on the phone. Can you tell him that you want us to come to the studio on Monday. He said, yeah, y'all come up to the studio on Monday and we're gonna do some music.
And after that we had started chilling, you know, kicking it again because well because we was at it a little bit, you know, I was piste off, you know, because there was other dudes in his ear trying to trying to break our relationship ship up between me, him and Ate. So ship we uh we went up to the studio that Monday, my hump, my buddy rump he Uh. We jumped in this raggedy ass car where we had to take the street all the way up to Hollywood up to solo our records. We took the streets and
uh everything. You know, you used to have a card. You're driving and you get to the light and you gotta put the mother fucking in a park to keep to keep it. So we did that all the way up to sold our records. It. Uh we got up in there and uh you know, we were sitting there just chilling with Dre and he he uh Snoop played the song he had called Gangster's Life and uh so Dre heard. He was like that ship is dope, but he said, let me redo the beat. So what he did is he redid that the hold hold on, do
your love, you got to hold on. He redid that that beat do doom boom boom boom. He had Snoop bus that Gangster Life to it. Oh that motherfucker was hard. And uh from that point on, that's when we're just starting to Drey was like, y'all come live with me, and I was like, shit, all right, ship, and we would like Ship to get out the hood and not have to be around the bush it no more. We out so we went to stay with him, and uh you know that was like after that, that's when uh
uh Dre DLC and Shield they was. They was all that was. That was when it was called. It wasn't death Roll yet it was goddamn it. What was the name of uma? Fulture shocked that it was future shot and uh Drake played the Gates of Life. He played it for Dock and Shig and they was like ship, this is this the one this nigga hard and uh From that point on, all we did was just we just we was working man and uh um. One day Drake came and was like he was like holding that
Snoop like, look, man, I got the soundtrack. I want to do a song with you. Uh uh deep cover So and Nigga did to beat right in the house boom boom boom boom boom boom, and then Snoop and uh Snoop and dre and and r b X got busy. They wrote that mother nailed it. That ship was dope. You didn't why you didn't They didn't. They didn't look at me like as as far as like uh uh as as an artist. I was more of like the DJ,
but I still was. I was an artist too, but Drey didn't know that I was that vicious as far as like on the artist side. But they didn't. They looked at me more as like a DJ. And then and that's what my pretty much for my role was at that time. But I was like, Ship, I can't just be no motherfucking DJ. I got to do more. So Drey was like Ship. He was like, I said, show me how to do the uh, you know, show me how to work the NPC sixty. So he showed me that ship, like right there we was in his
little studio. He showed me. And I just started sampling records and started, you know, learning how to put drums to him. And then I started watching him and what he did as far as using live instrumentation and stuff like that and guitars and all, but you know, basses and the drums and ship like that. So I was like,
god damn. So I picked up on that, you know, and and I but I did it in my my my way as far as like the g funk way, which it's more as like like I said in the song chords strings, we brings melody, like a good feeling, you know, I like to feel good, not not to be too hard. Yeah, and um, and I just picked it up from there and from there I just started producing Ship uh. I started helping with that's okay. After
they did Deep Covered. Then not too long that ship that blew up that Deep Covered the niggas from everywhere. It was like, Dan, this is the bigg It was like the biggest ship in the world. Like and uh uh so we was like ship. Drey was like, I want to do an album. Wh we gotta figure out, you know, what to call it. And ship. We was
in the studio just smoking, you know. We you know, we always used to talk about we need some more chronic and this, that this, and this white dude is the one who gave us that, like the chronic we started because he has some weed. He called it hydro chronic, hydroponic, So we started calling the chronic. And from right there he's like, damn the chronic, you know. And and and that's what we started calling the bud the chronic and uh and that's when we started. We started working on
the Chronic. And what I used to do is I would go to um it was a record store called As the World Turned. I would go there and I've got I grabbed all of the samples that we Then I say about of the records that we used on the chronic guy grabbed him from that store called As
the World Turned. Drey would give me like three hundred dollars, like nega, go get some records, and I take off and I go get the records, and then I will go and listen to him and I will find different pieces, different samples, like the like the uh, the Dolomite records. I bought all of those Dollarmite records. Uh. The part on the on their we uh doom Doom Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom due doom, break him off some break I did that.
That was a sample that was on the same record as the I forgot the name of that group that make the World go around. It's on that same record, but it's a little bit stripped at the end of the album, and it had that dum due doom d I did the the skit, uh, the one skit that he had really don't understand to do in order this thing the work with got getting you know, all the little skits and stuff. Did the phone call the skit, the phone call skit where I called the girl the
these nuts nuts that's me. I did the whole, that whole. I did a bunch of stuff without you know, it was all of us together, you know what I mean, all of our ideas together. I was just adding in and bringing Shipped to the table, just trying to be down, you know, just trying to be down and win. And uh but you never signed Death Road though, Why you didn't go to Death Road. Shit, they wasn't working with men.
I mean he was doing when they still man. That was after I don't know what the fund was going on. I was like Ship then got give a funk. They ain't sucking with me Ship. So I was like this it I gotta go. And so I just bounced and yeah, I was down like I was death Row to the fullests I ain't gonna lie. Everywhere we went we went like Ship we went. I remember we used to go to that club, all of us, me, Snoop, Sugar, all of every all of us we go to the club
and uh at the world. So one day we went to the club and these dudes were sitting in the car right in front of the club, under the under the little partner structure, and the motherfuckers say, uh fuck uh he I think he said fuck death Row. So Draydon looked at the nigger dred and shells and looked at the nigga. So they kept walking. So when they walked past, I stopped asking what he said, and he said, fuck that, and I fired on me. Wow, knocked that
mother for the channel. But I didn't see his homeboys nigga ship out my. I ain't gonna lie I got I ain't knocked me out out my. And then after that drag ship, everybody, we all stars while we beat the dog ship out the everywhere we went. I was like, I'm taking up, think I'm taking I was death brough to the fun I was mask but they what hurt
me is that they wasn't working with me. So it was like, damn, I didn't did all of this ship and and been helping out and just you know, and I was just crushed because they just they wasn't working with me. You know. I called. I was in the county jail that called, like, man, I said, she'll you're gonna beild me. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna beil you out. I'm gonna bear yup. I didn't get out. My god, damn. He never been like damn man, huh yeah. But for
a lot of people don't know right. Yeah, that's my step brother. Yeah, yeah, my dad. Okay, So Dred comes to the rescue. Man, you know he what Ship was about? I caught it go getting he had to go get you. Well you know, uh, James, I I don't know, man, I I can't call it. I don't you know. I don't know, man, warn Let me ask you this, Yeah yeah, let me ask you this. Bro. Just going back to all that. So you go through this thing, man, and
where y'are matching, y'all putting together a classic album? Man? What happened? At what point did you start working with um? Is that when you want to hooked up? And did the endoor smoking all that stuff? Man? That was after I left, So that was after you left, right, So that's when you want to hook up? What was the what was that? Right? Man? I tried to get Graham signed over there at Death Fro. So you tried to get Mr Grim signed here? Signed up? I tried that.
I tried to get Graham son. We we actually did a record that uh the little Ghetto Boy sample, and Graham had done that record before that, and then Dre was like, Ship, I'm gonna redo that motherfucker. So he redid the little ghetto boy rich sample. He redid it again, and and and did uh put them drums on their motherfucker and then and and then them live roads and ship and that ship was that ship was out of
this world. I was like, that ship is dope. Ours was hard too, though, But I said, man, I was I was just. I was just. I was death rowed out ship. I was mashing with whatever, whatever we gotta do to win, to blow this company up. That's what I was on is it's musically. I was just just trying to do whatever I could. You know, I didn't care. I didn't wasn't didn't care about no paperwork or nothing back then because I didn't know nothing about that stuff.
So I was just doing whatever. Wow, that's crazy, man, So let's let's let's go back to this pointing out. Man. So you and Mr Grimm is working together, you know, indo smoke is taken off and everything else, like, yeah, and you wind up and I'm pretty sure you was the hottest free agent on the market because you we just came. You know, they change of things. So you probably wound up even better off in hindsight looking back at it, man, Yeah, because you got the benefit of
going through boot camp. But one of the hottest labels at the time. Man, so yeah, tell me this man who wasn't besides death Jam that was after your services, cause I'm pretty sure they was all lined up. Was like, man, they're not messing with It was everybody, man, it was dead Jam, it was it was Sony. Uh. I forgot this label that two short was on that label back but they do Atlantic Uh. It was every lay uh, God, damn,
what's your name? If every label like in the that that you know of, they was all at I think everybody. I said, this is totally different from from what I'm used to and just doing this and then you know, talking to other people and then enlightened people at the same time or what you don't have to do or you don't have to grow up a certain kind of way.
You can be successful in anything you do. I'm saying, that's something that's totally different from my aspect, and you know, I just appreciate I'm able to talk and then you know, get to a point where I'm at now and it is just cool and you know, you know, talking to somebody you know, such as you that been out there and did it because I tried to enlighten these youngsters. No matter how you used to get down, you can come out of that. You can come out of that.
Every story we do, every story we do, we enlightened somebody on Damn, I ain't gotta be like that no more. I can do this. There is positivity. If you get your ship together, you can't make it. Yeah, so yeah, I know that's why. Yes, it fix it fixed a lot of ship because you know, like, uh, you know, some people might think, you know, just because of Death Road that that I could be mad at a at Warn I could. I'm mad at Snoop. Yeah, I don't have I never like really hung I don't like that
I was doing that. That's not I kind of thing, being around the Superstars and ship. Yeah, job was to be a bodyguard, like being there for Snoop at his child. Yeah, this job was to keep the riff rapp away, so don't nobody funk with him. I didn't mind that in that way. All the other ship I didn't. I didn't have time for that other ship. I didn't have time to be a part of the argument with the artists are socializing and getting down like that, Um, I just
I just had a job and I just did my job. Yes, And you know, people say you're mad at one. I don't have a reason to be mad at Warren. G Man. Warren ain't never hung out and kicked it to have an argument. Yeah, so no, I don't have a problem with that. Yeah, I have a problem. Well, we gotta ride. I got a CBO street glass. We gotta did one time man, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got a road kid. Man, I'd be on all over the place. I'm kiding, so man, I'll be out did yeah did ye.
I didn't motorcycle thing, but right right, and I'm out loud. I ain't join no mnus motorcycle clubs. I just dell ride it on. Um yeah yeah yeah, all that dude ship and all that meat, and I can't do that. No, you don't want to do that, you know, I don't want to. But started something. So yeah we're um, yeah, we're about to do a Gangster chronicles. Um, a bike club, just something that's real cool. Yeah, yeah, we about to do you know, a bike set man for the Gangster Chronicles.
And it's gonna be something cool man, And we go ahead home these and like you know, we're gonna get Crazy Bone get you know, Crazy Bone get a bike, your uncle get a bike. You know what I'm saying, We're gonna get just more, a little bit more, just like you know, up for x Min. I'm saying that's wrong with the other stuff, with something that's a little departure to where we have parties and stuff. You know, if you got you a three willing, you will come on.
If you know where you got just come on. And it's gonna be more for the social club aspect of it. But one of fans give me too much for the music. I'm gonna get a million emails like you had them on there, you cut them off from this net. Let's go back to that. Let's let's go back to that time man. We talked about now so you would Mr Grim y'all doing y'all thing? Man? Was that before you had a deal. Was that something that y'all just independently
and people started itself to it? Yeah? That that was independent? What What what happened was I was actually in a session with with Snoop and Dray That's when they was doing uhh. I think that the the Snoop Dog Dog and John singletonant and UH Paul Stewart was up there listening to reractors from drain them and snooting them to to put on the UH to put on the UH Poet of Justice soundtrack. So I was like, I told Paul Stewart. I was like, man, I got a song that that can I play for you UH to listen
to that that could possibly go on the soundtrack. So I played and we went to the car, sat in the car and played Indoor Smoke. It played for like maybe thirty seconds. He said stopped and I said, what's wrong? He said, just stops? Can I Can I keep this tape? I said yeah, and he kept it. He said give me your number, and UH, so I gave my number, gave him a page a number, my number in my
page dumber. So he hit me probably like maybe three or four days days later, and he was like, man, we want this to be our first single for the party, just the soundtrack. And I was like, are you serious? He's like, yeah, actually, you know that that was my That was my actually my first as an artist. That was my first time ever being on wax like as a as an artist. But before that, I had UH,
I worked with Pott and uh em C Breed. Uh. It was a dude named Rodney G who was managing mc breed and he had he had uh he was with he was DLC partner and so he hit me. He was like, because Doc knew I I was, I was ventious with the production. So Doc turned Rodney G on the me and Rodney G hit me like he said, warm, uh I'm doing this uh EMC breed album and and I was like, ship mc breed that I love him.
C Breed. Its music is dope. So he said, I want you to do a record for him in Tupac and I had already met Tupac from when I from doing the Actually, no, this this is I'm I gotta go back. I'm going back again. So it was Pocking and uh Breed. So he's like, I need you to do this song for two packing Breed and that's when I produced the Uh you gotta get yours, I gotta get mine. You gotta get yours, I gotta get mine. And uh after that, Uh, I ended up doing Breeds
whole album after that. Uh. And then from there, yeah, I know I'm rambling, y'all going to different now I'm trying to get it all in, like go back and then get back to where we will. Uh. So that that uh uh like I said that that that opened me up to uh my first production. You know that was really what some real artists was. You know, Tupac and Breed gave me a shot to do it. You know, they like set it off for me on the production tip and then you know, going back to the party justice.
Uh when when I said, Paul Stewart called me, he said that, uh uh this is gonna be our first single for the poort, just the soundtrack and uh and so I was like, that's dope. So they got paid, had a little bit of money. It wasn't a whole lot. Uh. And then Tupac called me. He was like, he said, uh, I'm working on this this album called Thug Life. He said, you got some beach from me. So I said, yeah, I said, he's so. But okay, wait, wait, wait, you know what this is. Let me let me go back again,
let me rewind. And I did end or spoke, but I was still I had a little bit of money. I gotta request add a little bit of money, and I was I was I was living with my sister at off my chest that I was living in my with my sister still in the apartment. I had a burgundy reriggor with the beating that motherfucker. So I'm in my sister house. I got a phone call and I'm like hello and and uh. He was like, this is Tupac. Uh I want to I want to want you to get out with me on Uh. I'm doing an album
called Thug Life and I want you again. I didn't believe him, so I was like, this ain't no fucking Tupacs. So I hung up bam and he called back again and then he was like, he was like, man, this is Tupac. I'm not you know, this is Tupacs. So he said, do you got some beats? And I said, I was like, is this really too much? Like yeah, I said, I said, hell yeah, I gotta beat. So he was like, uh. He said, I'm gonna be at Echo Sound I think I think said maybe an hour
or two hour. And he said, I'm texting I'm gonna paid you the uh the address. So he paid me the address. I grabbed my drummer, Schae grabbed my records room, and the trump hopped in the car. And shot straight up to uh. It was called Echo Sound uh in Los Felis. I shot up there, walked in and it was Tupac and he was like, man, you you I'm working on the thug life. He said, do you have a a song that I could that that I could do this song too? And uh So I was like,
hell yeah, I got a gang of beat. So I just started playing different beats and then he was like stop hold up. So he started asking me stuff like like what's going on with you? And this and that and this? So I started we got into a whole like I started just telling me all kind of ship, how fucked up I was feeling, as far as not being able to be with Snoop and Dre and them and just something. You know. I was like, I'm I'm just hungry. Just so everything I talked to him about
he said, now, where is the beat that? So when I put the beat on, it was that doooom dono boom doom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. And then he just said, my definition of a theb nigga boooo boom. So he sayy he told the engineer like, I need to do the hook. I need to do He went did the hook right after he did that ship. I was like, he did that, motherfucker. And probably it was less than that. I out. I was like, what the fuck I said, This nigger went
and broke this motherfucker everything we talked about. He went right in there and wrapped the ship on the fucking uh on the on the thing and it blew me away. And he was like, warning, you got something for the hook. And so I was like, all I could think about was Roxanne, Sean roxand Shan take every tears the season to be serving. Now what you're doing, my mav. And luck of motherfucker, tears the season to be serving what you're doing, my mab And luck of motherfucker, that ship
was hard than a motherfucker. And uh, we were sitting in there. We were sitting in there and uh, Big Site came in there. Uh ratedar uh Mac ten and uh who else was I think it was another cat named little Site. Uh. And they had came and told Tupac that his buddy got shot at Detroit. And he immediately said, he said, warn that you got a beat another beat for me, I'm gonna do a song for a by my homeboard Detroit. So him big psyching Mac
Cannon radar ar. They all wrapped on the song. So I called Nate like, Nate, I'm up here with Tupac Nigga. He wants you to come sing on the hook. They came up there, I said. He thought I was bullshit too. I was like, I don't know. I said, Nick, I'm in the studio with Poc Nigger. Come up. So they came up and then that's when they came up and we did that. How long were they more on me? I wish it was another I called him up there and he came and and uh laid the hook down
for him. Man, it was that was you know, like all of those were like my introduction into to uh into the music, you know, to to like really being a professional and in the music, you know. And that's that's like where it started as far as me getting into the music. And then their record companies was like ship you know, those tons of it was on me. And uh So what I did was when I heard that Jeff jam was on me, I was like I had to say, wait a minute. I was like, I
said the Beastie Boys. I said, run DMC bad Boys. I was just like LLL coo j Uh. I was like slick rig. I was like, I said, now, why should I deal with this company over here at this company and over there that company when I could deal with them and everybody with that company has been successful. So I'm like, ship, I'm probably up, but the motherfucker's on me. So I said, I'm gonna sunk with deav Jail because they're they're hip hop company all the way.
They ain't like an epic where they got all that R and B stuff and all this jazz, and these guys are strictly hip hop. So I was like, fucking, I'm working with deaf Jams and Uh. They flew me out there, Uh me and the twins. I asked the twins to fly with me. I was like, man, y'all fly with me please, and UH got me out there. I got a call in the morning. We went to State at the embassy suite. That next morning, I got a call. It was LLL coo J was downstairs to UH and he was like, man, I want to take
you through Queens. So I took one of the twins. I said man, come on, because I don't know if this motherfucker it's real. That's when that's I hope I get in trouble saying it. But that's when you could sneak a gun on the plane. And I I had it in my shoe. I got it up to the place, so I had my ship. So I'm like, funding I said, the one ain't come with me because this is the nigga some nigger downstairs talking about he LLL cool Jack. So I'm like, we get down there and it was
that nigga. It was there. I was tweaking, like I can't believe l Crewe. They that fucking came and picked me up. So he took us through this neighborhood and showed us all kind of ship, took us to the mall, then took us to the house where it all started. He showed us the basement. I had never seen that many clothes and shoes in my life. He had the motherfucking light green Suzuki sidekick, the one he used and I think with Brenda got a big old but he
had the same one sitting right outside. I was like, oh my god, I'm in heaven right now. That's how they did it. They had him come schooled me up, like to welcome me into the family. So I'm like, all right, ship, it's all good. But then niggas, I ain't gonna lie. They showed me a lot of love out there, man, you know. But I still was like, I'm right with my funcks, you know what I mean, which was death Row. I'm still righting with with death from I know. I'm on the East Coast, but I'm
riding with death Row. And uh, I ain't gonna live, Swear to god, I ain't. I had landed at John Waite Airport, and I didn't way. Every time we landed Johnny White Airport. When we get in the car, first thing we do is turn on the Hot nunety seven to see what's playing on the radio. And that's when I heard, uh, when Biggie was on the air and all that. It was a bunch of niggas on the air talking about the niggas out here such such such a little video. Because I was out there, I was like,
oh God, I can't believe I heard the ship. So I'm calling, like, did you hear that ship on the radio? That ship? I said, y'all niggas would be careful, man, and these niggas tripping and then that bullshit happened when they was in Brooklyn, like the ship that happened. I was like, I was out there, so I came trying to find They went to New Jersey and I came over trying to find them catch up with him in New Jersey. But by that time, everybody, you know, they
it was over. When niggas getting ready to get back to the house. Yeah. Wow. So let me ask you this, man, you're going through the whole transition. Man, you've got this big deal with death jam at any point, death at any point? Can can you hear me? Whether you're working from the house or working on your fitness at the gym. You want what you're listening to to be what you're listening to, not what your neighbor your kids are listening to.
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than a motherfucker. But it's like you had the chance to sign me mad when you had the chances beign me. It's like you can't ain't get mad when you had the chance to sign me that you knew I was ride and dive with y'all right down to the max. Man, I don't think child knew what he actually had, you Snoop tuparc just with all of you guys. Man, I mean, I don't think he even imagined. He just knew what
he really had. He had a golden Dre. I mean the way you, the way you were, the way Dre was, Uh, Snoop, he had nothing but talent. And it's like you just all squandered away everybody doing good. But man, just just where that would have took it? Do you ever think about if I was reading there, bro, it would probably would have been different Ship. I don't mean I don't know, I mean, uh, it probably would have been. It probably would have been I'm pretty sure it would have been cold,
you know, everything would have been good. But I don't know if I probably would have blew up as big as I did being over there with dev Jam. But what I did do is I came back to Shig and Dre and I said, I got this song right here. Can I get this on the soundtrack which was above the RAM, which was regulated, which was the biggest recorded. So the whole soundtrack made that's almost three million records, and then I took the same re released it on my for my solo album, and then it made my
record saill four million and almost twelve worldwide. So if I saw I came, I came back and I gave that gift back for you know, for my you know, not not really a gift, but just showing like y'all still my niggas like bamn, yere gon regulate take that on the side. And I ain't ship they did. I get broke off of that le or and should probably had that they you know, exchange some type of bread.
I didn't get a lot. I know that time man, so so so so let me ask you warn you're going through this whole thing, man with death jam down everything, and then you start to label because I noticed you was the first one really to kick your label off the ground. You were second. Got the Twins, Twins and everybody else man all that transpo. Uh, I just they was down with me and and just just I knew
that I knew they had talent. So I was like, shit, I'm I'm starting to make a name for myself, so I want to help everybody else try to get their name going. The Twins made, they made, They did their thing. They was they was, they were, they was, they was. They were doing their thing. The five footage they was dope. I mean everybody I worked through it was dope. Man.
You know, they all got a chance to do their thing. Man, Twins that ship to Gold Record, Yeah they were they they ship they were just the file for this was dope. But they were just just couldn't we couldn't get get him. They all agree with each other, you know, so that that kind of got crazy. But they're still my girls too. They dog um. I mean it was just I just took care of everybody. They made a lot of money, Like without even having a record out. I took him
on tour with me and everybody made money. Like I was giving them, you know, made sure they was good. You know what I mean. Let me ask you this one because I had this the big question everybody wanted them all that. You know what I'm about to ask you, right, it was howcome how come you and Snoop things never did in the record? Man? We did the two one three record. Yeah, look at the two one three regular. But I'm talking about hardcome Warren and Snoop thing never
said down. You know what I'm saying. Warren the two one three record, that's your group record. I'm seeing on all them albums that he had haw Com and Warren and Snoop ain't never said in just with a warrenge banger ship. I can't call it still. I mean, you gotta ask Snoop that one, because i mean, I'm always I've always been there, you know, for musically and you know whatever, you know, But that's it's that's something you probably gotta ask him. I'm I'm always down to get
out with whoever. You know, it don't matter to meybe, Yeah, nickcause because you've been busy. Man again, Um, I looked up and you come with this single with young Jeezy Man. How did you look up with you. I heard that was like this ship hard. It's a motherfucker right. There was a different song than what do you normally? Yeah, one of one of my buddies. Uh, that's that's that's locked up out there. And Georgia was was in jail with one of his buddies. Uh actually this name scrapped.
That one of Jesus type buddies name scrapped. He was, he was, well, he was locked up with another dude that that I know from Atlanta, and uh, well that's from here. But when jail and Atlanta forever, he ain't never getting there and uh but I hope he do. But uh they he tapped in with Jesus people, uh and told and tapped in with what another one of my buddies. And he calls me, He like, nigga, Jess wants you to bring some beach down to the video shoot. I was. I was like, man, I'm not getting ready
to funk with this nigga. I don't even know. I was like shot. I just did. I wasn't I didn't have like I wasn't like motivated to really do a lot. I was just I don't know. I was just in a different space. I was just tripping a little bit, but I said, fuck it all right, let me go ahead. So I paddled up about maybe ten or fifteen tracks went up there. Uh, he had had he was sitting in his Bentley. So I went jumped into Bentley with him to start playing tracks. And he was just like,
I want this track. I'm on this track, this track, and this track. He picked like about five of and uh ship out. He said, I'm gonna hit you when I do a record. Uh. So he hit me probably like about maybe maybe three maybe three weeks after that. Uh, he called me screaming, whoam we gonna hit nig up? We gotta hit like just we gotta hit nig up, something like, what's going on? Man? What's going on? He said, think of that song you gave me that, so hit nig up. That's gonna be my first single. So I
was like, is that right? I was like, congratulations man, and Kevin lows on all of them. They was congratulating me on giving him a great single with Neo and uh and uh that's how that record went. That was that was his biggest single ever, even even though he did that My President is Black, the one that the Leave You Alone is the biggest record he ever had, you know, So that that was it felt pretty good just to get back, get back in there and and
and give a younger artist some music. And it's still be just as dope. Like any of these young artists right now. I guarantee you they get up under any of my ship, that ship is gonna change. I ain't just saying this ship because you know, just to trying to pump myself up and you know, but I really make dope music and I would love to hear some of these younger artists. Actually it's a cat out of Atlanta. I did some records with Name Block. He pretty dope.
Uh that nigga, that nigga that he fused with Rick Ross, that them niggas is that nigga's gonna be hard? I shot him some bangers. M hmmm, No, that's what That's what I wanted to ask you two one you probably man is one of the most prolific producers on the West Coast. And you gotta and you know you can't say that the originator of the g funk South Well, I was turned down to the love the sound, Yeah,
well my sound. Yeah that de funk Era, but I was turned down to to uh the G funk by seven and UH one eight seven and uh uh lay Law CAMG one a seven cam g lay Law and go Mat and tokay. Yeah. Yeah, they took me and they took me under their wings back in the n w A days. Um they was working with Drake in the n w A And Man, I used to go up, you know, just to go sitting around at the studio just too. This was that I knew she was way
back in. I wasn't number like sixteen fifteen, sixteen years oh and uh I used to go up to the studio with them, and uh we kind of just clicked, you know what I mean. They used to I used to be clowning a lot, talking ship just niggas laughing and ship. So we just we clicked. And I was kind of like in a situation where I was pretty much homeless, and UH one eighty seven then took me in. So I went and stayed with them up in Colton, and uh, I lived with them, you know, for ship
for a while. Maybe I don't think it was a year, but I lived with them for a while. And you know that G Funk was I was became a part of it because that was they that's what they started. They started to g funk, But I I started the g funk error. That's me, you know, as far as my sound. But it's a it's a it's a branch, you know, part of of the of the stamp at one age seven and put down. Yeah, but I'm just a branch of it. But I made it into I
made it international. Yeah right. Yeah, that's a whole lot of history right there, man. And we definitely man need to have more Warren g in the stratosphere, you know what I mean. It's all good. I gotta I got a record with Todd Dollarson and I'm I'm gonna let loose pretty soon, right when this as soon as things kind of died down a little bit and people able to move around, I'm gonna drop this record I got with Todd Dallason. That's dope. Yeah man, It's like this coronavirus.
I know a whole bunch of yeahld not. I know a lot of cats out they're trying to get into the game. You putting the work with new artists, I mean, new guys trying to get in the game. Yeah, they understand, you know, if they okay, If they don't, how do how do I so? How do I lick up with you to hook so you can hear their music? Ord if if if you know, you say they dope and not, how do I get them to you? Uh? Well, I give you my my cell phone and then they can.
Also you can also have them send it, you know, just send a sniff. They ain't even got to send or a lot or send me their YouTube so I can check out their YouTube. But to defund music partnerships, Uh, it's on my It's on my profile on my Instagram. De fund music Partnership Partnerships at gmail dot com. Yeah, and uh they can. They can send music of music you're looking for. Uh, whatever you're looking for. I'm I'm I'm whatever it is, dope, whatever's dope, I'm down with it.
You know, it don't matter what it is, somebody on the guitar singing, whatever it is. As long as it's dope and it could it'll work. Yeah, That's what I love to do. I love to work with different genres, even the hip hop. It don't matter what it is. I'm down with working with anybody. Yeah, I'm a big Jameric uid fan from up side of the UK, and he's a he's a different type of guy, you white dude, but heat that motheruck got so y'all should check him
out if you haven't already Jameric kua. But he's a yeah, Jameric quais vicious. I ain't gonna lie. It sounds space cowboy and all that ship. Oh my god, that ship as dope as fun. He wanted the dopest motherfucker's like from out that out there, from out the UK, like he's he's demand from out there. Man, I don't sample some Shameric WHI rides, yeah, jamericalized out he's real crazy.
I'm a gate man. I'm you know, I'll be on some what other ship like I was digging in all types of genres and I'm you know, I'm just a nerd just staying out the way and you know, down the help motherfucker's when I can. Yes, Hey, you you being the guys, being one of the guys that's kind of liking the um an architect of the song from out here? Man, what do you think the biggest problem
me of today? Man? But now I ain't gonna say a problem because I don't want to be one of the older cats to say everything today is wet, But I hear a lot of stuff that's done wrong and incorrect. Do you think, man, we need to start mentoring these young guys more out here. Man. As far as musical, most definitely, most definitely up. Uh. Like Mustard, he he
stepped his game up. You know, he used to be one of those producers that wouldn't use just use just the same sound without but he stepped his game up and stuff. As he grew, he started getting more instrumental to start, you know, really like making the ship really dope, you know, not that the other ship was whacked, but he just he grew, you know, And and that's how it happens. You know. I was at I was at a certain stage and I grew, you know, so he
he grew up. And but we definitely gottah uh, you know, spit some knowledge to the younger youth. Uh. And I mean I ain't trying to be like the type of motherfucker that that Uh. That's that's like preaching and ship because I like to have fun too, you know, I Man, I don't get me wrong, but every song that that a lot of the young artist is doing the day it's just about stripping, talking about how much dope they
sell them, the trap and this, that and this. But it's I understand that you some of you guys may have may be going through that, but we I went through the same ship that they're going through worse way, worse than that. And uh and I chose to to not. I mean, I talk about certain things and my songs, but I give a story, but I make it feel good.
At the same time, A lot of these dudes just that's all they talk about, because I understand that's all you know, but try to be different from be different from that, talk about it, but do it in a different way and not just just wow. I mean, and it's it's what the ladies to them. I mean, I'm down with the younger artists. I'm down with the young ladies. But these motherfucker's showing all this asks like everywhere. I mean,
it's that's all you see, is just asks everywhere. When one of them motherfucker's take the decision two do one record where they ain't on that ship shaking their ass and you know, doing a strip show for motherfucker's and they just do maybe like a slight empowerment record for the ladies. That motherfucker's gonna change the game, you know, because then they started putting that show. So you don't have to be huh, So you don't have to be it.
You don't have to be a gangster to make music, not because everybody think are under the inception, not at all. That's that's that's why I'm trying to say, because everybody don't have to be that thug, but everybody want to portray the thug because they think that's what sales. And you don't have but nine nine gangsters, Uh, everybody gravitate to it because they, like you said, but you just said,
it's like you don't have to be a gamester. But if those other people that that make that get big and they went through the same they they've been through that even though they're not a gangster, you know what I mean, Like they they they can relate to it, but they ain't banging. But we can relate to because I've been through that. You know, I don't know bang,
but but they love it. I it's it's I'm trying to explain this ship, James, but it's it's uh, but they it's this they it's just being dope and being different because everybody meant, whether you're a gang banger or not, you go through the same ship like you know, motherfucker go through fights being bullied. Uh, your homeboys, you probably got homeboys. They gang banger. You don't gang bang, but you're gonna go through the ship that they're going through
because you hang with them, you know. So it's it's you know, it's it's it's you know, so they you know it's but it's it's uh, it's it's artists that that's huge. That's not gangsters. You know that. They ain't gangs. You could, you could, you could do ship with that. I don't. I don't think little baby, I don't think he had gang bang. I think he just just a nigger that just wrapped from North Carolina, you know, but he just he just got a little bit of Doug in it. He got a hold of you got a
whole lot of dog like. I don't game bag, I don't gag bag shift, I don't I tell all the things. I don't gang bang ship, but they're gonna put me in the category because I'm from Loby but I was born and raised around this ship. So evidently people don't be like all right, but I don't gain bang. I'll tell all them niggas, I don't gang bag. They know what ship. So don't come to me with that bullshit talking about this good day ship and that I don't gang bag. And I'm not getting ready to gang to
gang I not. I don't do that. So cool, y'all know me as a little warm with the glasses with the tape on. You know, I used to box Brucey. Me and Brucey used to box every day. You're a big brucer prints and his brother printis dre be right there in printis be right to me and Brucy and in uh stake leaping leapings though. Yeah, if we all used to box every up street. But big Bruce is my homeboy, man, Yeah, that's my dog. I'm telling me if Brucey grew up together. We lived on the same street.
That's great in Compton for a while. I stayed and my mama sent me to Campton. She said, get up out of here because you're not getting ready to get caught up in this game bang ship. Because my susters all of the know they were gang banging, but they have niggas all at my mama's house and ship, and they were niggas were trying to trying to put me, you know, trying to get me in. But I knew all the niggas. But she said, then you go on
the Compton and go live with your daddy. So I shot up to Compton, and uh, it was a little different, you know. It was it was it was this ship. I got up there and and ship it was the same ship. I used to have to fight all the nigga. Yeah, because I was from Globe, so they was it was on my head, you know. And right it used to call me kils and fits hey getting Kibl's and I'm like, let's go. That's crazy, man. So yeah, because yeah, yeah,
me and Big Bruces to have a youth football program together. James, Yeah, yeah, Big Bruce recipe Yester dave Man. When when Bruce was a with with Philadelphia, I was on tour and then niggas didn't believe that we was dogs. When I got to Philadelphia to a party at the club, I had Brucey bring all the niggas up in that motherfucker. That's the left of Yeah, this is my home boy. He ain't lying to y'all. Let's go. We partied in that motherfuck yeah, Big Bruce love the party man, Big Bruce,
Big Bruce drinking hole fifth or something man, straight up. Yeah. Yeah. And James. I don't know too many people. Yeah, yeah, Terry, that's the Charil and daddy Terry. Yeah, Bruce and Terry was tight. I used to go over there and uh in the North Offer sixty seven when they used to do the little backyard buggies over there, Terry and and Teryl and his dad and and Brucey and that one boxing dude I forgot his name is kind of big dude, kind of box Jake. Um, that's the homeboy. Damn trip man,
Big old mother Goldie is my right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the homy right there. Man. Yeah, we used to guy, I used to go back there and kicking with the but we used to blaze and just chill. They're playing pool. That was code. Yeah, the time was yeah, yeah, there
was the days. Man. Well, man, I know don't too many people, man, So I really take this as a privilege and honor because it ain't too many people that can say they've got a warrngey interview, cause you don't do a whole bunch of the well now, I don't do a lot, but ship. We're gonna do a in studio one to ship. Yeah, we we got we we we we gotta get it in the studio one mask ball to things. I said, Man, this Corona ship is just sucking up every damn thing. But you know where
Thank God for technology and everything. Man, And this one man was so informative because I think we got some stuff with the James ain't nobody ever heard before? Yeah, yeah, I ain't never heard it. So you got what everybody is listening to the show folk. Man, I appreciate you like I appreciate you like motherfucker. That's all good man. And like like I read, soon as we get out, as soon as we get off this stuff whatever they got us. So man, I'm I'm a barbecue. Come up.
We can have a have a drink if you drink a book blaze or whatever. It's all good man. Yeah I never smoked no weed, but I have a drink with you. Yeah yeah that so I can't do that. Oh yeah, man, Um, we appreciate you. Every everybody out there. Appreciate you and thanks mad man, shoot all over and sitting dumb. We come and shoot at the table and chop it up and yes and day, keep it going man, and we appreciate ain't you. Man. Y'all know you got to busy over there, so we're gonna let you get
back to your day. And I'm about to do brisket. Yeah, it's gonna take me about about seventeen hours, but uh, you know, keep up the good work man. And and it's really good to see your podcast is really dope, man. And uh you're doing your thing man, and keep doing good work man, and it's paying off. And and you know, I can't do nothing but support, so that's why I'm on here. I'm down
