The Troy "SMACK" Mitchell episode

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Man the dude.

Man is pretty much responsible for a lot of things Man that you see going on today. Man often imitated, never duplicated. Man, we got smack in the building. Yeah, you know, no Man, when they hit me up, Man for the thing, asked me if I want to do this?

I said, hell yeah. It don't need to be no question. Y'all should just be calling me.

Asked me what day and what times? The chronicles many I'm saying, you know, we gat up from the feed up.

Man.

You know I have to check in, you know what I mean, tap in with y'all. Man, what's up for Shell?

For Shell for Shure? Man, So y'all got something going down? Man on the end of this month. Man on the twenty seventh, Man, it's like the Super Bowl for Battle Wrap though.

We're both for Battle Raps summer. Man, that's thirteen going down August twenty seventh. You know what I'm saying, Houston, Texas, I'm about to shake up the building. I'm about to shake up the culture. I'm about to shake up the city of Houston. You know what I'm saying. Houston is just definitely like you know what I'm saying. One of my favorite cities just due to the fact of all

So you know what I mean.

I just want to, you know, show my love and my respect and my homage to you know what I mean, the city of Houston. That's why I chose to actually have the SAMMA man this thirteen event there this year. You know, I always try to go to Houston one time a year at least, you know what I mean, just to you know, show the city some love.

And it's time.

It's time.

It's time. August twenty seventh, we out there.

You know what I mean, Houston is a live city.

Man. We don't kind of go back to your history, man, because you've done so many pivotal things for the culture. You one of those people man, when they look back on the pantheonic hip hop man, when they paint that picture man, whatever that looked like, they damn sure got to leave the room for you at the table, dog because.

You respectfully, like you know what I'm saying, Like, you know what I mean, I put a lot of blood, sweating tears. I dedicated my life to this shit, man, So respectfully, my presence gotta be there, man, Like you know what I mean, if it's real, if it's authentic, if it's something you know what I'm saying, Like something that's really official, I gotta be there, man, You know what I mean, real, for.

Sure, for sure, for sure.

Man.

I want to ask you, man, before we go into all your ventures and your accolades. Man, what was Smack doing before the Smack DVD series?

Oh?

Man, before the Smack DVD series? You talking to you talking nineteen ninety nine and down. You know what I'm saying.

I was just basically, you know, coming up, cooking up the master plan, you know what I'm saying, meditating, trying to bring you know what I'm saying, this whole everything that you're seeing into fuition, everything that you've seen. I basically was in the process of, like you know what I'm saying, just thinking it out, trying to figure out how I was gonna actually bring it into fuition, you know, working hustling at the same time, had a job, did my little weed thing on the side, just trying to

Man.

I tell people, Man, you have to let your fay job feel your dreams facts. Don't stop working your job. You know, you gotta still keep some income coming in. So when did you have the idea of man to kick the whole smack brand off?

When I was at work, man, you know what I'm saying, I was a janitor before you know what I'm saying. I began, like you know what I mean, doing what the fuck I was doing when I was working for the Border Education in New York City, fucking mopping hallways, cleaning bathrooms, cleaning, cleaning up after these dirty ass kids and shit like that. Like when I say these kids are dirty, I'm talking about I was in an elementary school.

These little niggas dirty.

Man. They used to have shit on a ceiling, like how do you get shipped on a ceiling?

Like what are you doing?

And it was me responsible of cleaning that shit up to make sure that, you know what I mean, my job was complete. But like I remember like you know what I'm saying. This Basically I work one day just mopping the hallways, just thinking to myself, like, yo, man, I got a fucking brain. Man, I don't need to be doing this shit. Man, I don't gotta do this shit. I got a brain, like I feel. I really felt that way, Like, Yo, this shit is this.

Shit is whack. I mean I was getting paid good money though it was a good job, Like you know what I mean.

Back then, I was getting like you know what I mean, twenty thousand an hour and this is like you know what I'm saying, nineteen, Like this is like two thousand, nineteen ninety nine, two thousand.

Back then, twenty thousand hours.

Was was was a big money. Oh that was a good job man, and you had pretty good benefits all something. Ya. Back then, that shit was good money. That shit was a good job.

But like it still didn't do nothing for me because of the manual labor that I had to basically do. It was just like yo, nah, this ain't me. Like you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna put my brain to work. I'm gonna do something that I got a passion for, something that I love to do. And I'm gonna get it popping. And I was dead as serious.

I had my floor that I had. I was responsible, and you know what I'm saying.

I just remember like hallways long, mopping and shit, just talking to myself like yo, man, this shit is whack man.

Like I need, I need, I need more than this life, like it's more than this. So you know what I'm saying.

I just came up with, you know what I'm saying, the concept of creating a DVD magazine, which was a magazine, you know what I mean, back in the days, you know what I'm saying, when the DVD technology was out, Like you know what, Mandy, every DVD you used to have chapters.

On DVDs, there's different chapters you can skip through.

You know what I'm saying.

I just made everybody have their own little segment on every chapter, you know what I mean.

So I got with like you know what I'm saying all of the.

Necessary hip hop dudes that I knew that I had relationships with, and I threw the camera on them. You know what I'm saying. I was also hustling too. I did my little week thing, but I wasn't no big hustler. I ain't make millions. I make good money, but like I ain't even gonna talk about that because I want glorify that shit. But I mean, at the end of the day, though, like you know, it fascinated me when I used to do my runs and shit on the street,

Like?

You know what I'm saying.

You know, twas steal a nice little mama changed today, you know, for out there working every week.

You know what i mean.

Listen, Man, we in twenty twenty three, so like right now, that shit ain't ship. But back then, that shit was like damn, How'm gonna do this? You have to figure that shit out, you.

Know what I'm saying. So I made it happen.

I got the necessary equipment just off the passion that I had and the interest that I had for the technology. And then, you know what I'm saying, got the equipment, you know what I'm saying, hustle up, scammed the equipment and really went to work. You know what I'm saying. I put that equipment to work. You know what I'm saying. It never looked back. So that's how the smack DVD series started.

You know what I mean, Man, I think do you ever sit back, Troy and just wonder sometimes? Man, you look at all the stuff like you look at YouTube right now. YouTube is a huge platform for new and emerging artists as well as you know, veteran artists like I was talking off are you were pretty much YouTube before there was a YouTube. You brought the hood into the living rooms from the middle of America and to

I was outside like your DVDs dog exactly.

I was outside before they was outside. Like listen, you know what I mean.

I was the bible of the culture of hip hop before.

You know what I'm saying, the YouTube before the world stars, before any of the you know mean streaming platforms that's

The bets and the mtvs. You know what I'm saying.

I'm really like, you know what i mean, tapped in, you know what I'm saying, running around with these dudes. I'm in they studio sessions, I'm in their neighborhoods, I'm on the flights, in the private jets with them, just showingcasing the reality of like you know what I'm saying, goes on behind the music or behind you know, the coaching, you understand. And I did it respectfully with you know

You know, Smack, I wanted to ask you. I wanted to ask you when I first met you was Maserati Fox.

To twelve r p R let me to twelve with So where was we.

In, Queen?

Because I always tell people where was that? I don't know Queen?

Where was that that was in?

That was in that was off of off of Rockaway and something and in the projects right there. I forget what they was called, like you know what I'm saying, for Rockaway and something Boulevard, you know what I'm saying, you know, the little the little projects or for something in Rockaway, you know what I mean, little housing complex.

I don't call it the projects, but the complex. You know what I'm saying. We just tapped in.

You know.

Fox was definitely you know what I'm saying, you know, running around at the time, you know what I'm saying, really trying to you know what I mean, get you know what I mean, his his movement off the ground, you know, and I was there their system, so you know what I'm saying. I gave him a look. We collaborated,

Reason why I'm saying that because back then to do this culture, you had to be outside. You had to be outside. Now, this is my first meet and you, and historically back that was me, you Beasley, Trave, picture Perfect, and Fox.

That's why I tried to just shout out to Trave.

I'm saying, so now when you look black, we all went on to do our things.

Don't forget wrecked, don't get don't forget you know.

Yeah, what I wanted to know, Bro is on First of all, I ain't know we had bloods in New York City. I found out that day for I didn't know we had Yeah, it's crazy with shot recipes of the homie fo you know what I'm saying, it was a lot of them. How do you feel now that anybody could just jump on camera and just document the culture, but they didn't have to hit the streets. You know, at one point when we did certain things, you was held accountable for what you said in the street. How

I mean, you know, we live in a different age right now, Like you know what I'm saying. Everything is different, you know what I mean, the time, in.

The culture, like the perception, the technology, everything is.

It's a different world. Like you know what, I'm shit that, Like you know what I'm saying. We didn't have didn't even like exist of what's going on right now. So it's like these kids grew up different than what we did, Like you know what I'm saying, Like you, like you said, we really had to be outside. Like now, you outside is just basically putting a funk on in front of your face and actually talking shit. And you outside, you post that shit on the ground, you get views every

You know what I'm saying.

Like I tell niggas, I was at gunpoint more than anybody in the motherfucking world.

That's why I wanted to That's why I want to let people know we understand what I'm saying. Like outside, when we went to this area, we went to this area, well, I was like, what the fuck is this? I'm a Brooklyn dude, but I'm looking all I see is red. Like three hundred dudes. We went to parks, we went to places, but smack with spearhead and the whole thing. And I was like, nah, this shit different, this shit different.

Nah, yo, listen, man.

And I try to explain to dudes all the time, like you know what I mean, They don't even know to have. Like that's something like I got tucking, I got tucking in the.

Stash, like all the footage.

I got so much footage that I didn't release. You know what scares me the most, man, You know what scares me the most, what excuse me the most is when I go back and all kinds, when I look at the footage, I see so many niggas that's not.

Here, no more right here.

That shit is so it's spooky yeah, Bookie, Like I look at the content and I'm like, Damn, he's gone. He's going, he's going, he's doing life. He's locked up, He's gone this one, you know.

What I mean.

It's crazy, though, Doug, and need to still be here and you know, surviving and still striving on my mission of creating content and you know, just bringing that realness to the culture as far as like you know what I mean, a content creator and just doing something else that you know what I mean is just more laid

Let me ask, and I'm.

Twenty and I'm twenty.

Yeah, I'm one and twenty in because you know what I mean, the first DVD came out two thousand and two, two thousand and two thousand and two, so I'm like twenty one in.

You had some of the most historical battles on DVD. See people don't even know that error was different than James's. That's what Jen and the serious Jones that that Ian Solomon you had.

Dog yo yo, when when when?

When?

When? When I talk about like.

Having a like you know what I mean the battles that I like, I started the coaching, like the way I started the coaching. Like there wasn't battle rap on camera, a cappella though a cappello the nott no beat.

I mean not talking about battling on beat.

That's not what we do.

You know, dude like that, I mean we respect that, and you know I might I fuck with it too, I fuck with it. But like I'm talking about acapella, like how we used to street, how we used to do it in the lunch rooms, how we used to do it in the barber shops where we're from. You know, the clo you know the cloth that we cut from, you know, I mean New York City, hip hop.

Yo, Yo, your man nice, bring him over here. I got ten stacks.

That cloth, that cloth, that's the cut, that's the cloth that I'm cut from. Like at the end of the day, that's what we represent. I was the first to get that on camera to promote around the world.

Do my platform on a smack DVD.

You did your brother Love Brother Loves Joint.

Hosting my joint just because your smack Yo. Come on smack were yo, just off the love smack Yo. We're gonna get this ship pop and come to daddy out.

We're gonna boom, Jay Mills.

One of the things out here y'all talk about is the culture, right and we in the fifty years deep in hip hop right now right, I'm an og dog. I'm fifty three years old.

Dog.

I can remember when you know, hearing my first hip hop record, right, and back then, the cardinal rule was no biting.

Everybody had to be a rigid yo.

You get yo, you bite, you get fucked up.

Yeah for real. You know you can.

They coming to see you if you If you bit biting like you, you you getting.

Approached, Yeah for sure. And I wanted to leave that as a little segue into something. When you created smack, there were a slew of other water down versions of smack.

They came to the street. Not this is nobody else, but.

You got copy that imitate it, you know, they say imitations of you know, purest form of flattery. I don't know though I see this disrespect kind of.

What was.

I love you now with you but not at the end of the day, you know, Yeah, imitation is the greatest form of flattery. And yeah, after I came out, a lot of a lot a lot of people didn't you know what I mean, you know, immolated, you know what I mean, my format, my style and ship like that.

You know, it is what it is, like I showed the culture how to get money in a certain way.

M hm. You understand what I'm saying.

They just took a page out of my book and did what they had to do. You know what I'm saying. I don't I don't knock that ship. I'm not never mad at that ship.

As long as they did it and they own original way to like ghost say, ghost Face said it the best.

Shout out to my uncle Ghosts.

You know what I mean, ghost Face killers, yo, man, yo, just do your own ship, man, and you know what I mean, and be original, alon as you got originality in your ship, like you know what I mean, your original with what you do, then I don't have a problem.

But don't do exactly what the fuck I do?

You understanding at.

Least throw your own spin to the ship, bring something to add something new to the ship.

Don't just do what the fuck I do.

I'm going through the same ship right now and the culture that I'm in, Like you know what I'm saying, let me slow down, let me, let me.

Let me, let me still, let me ask them something so and also, Smack, you have a lot of street dudes that you change their life, right, change their life, I say all the time, y'all niggas gotta remember nine minutes of rhymes and you might get from five thousand dollars to fifty thousand, and you can't remember that ship. You get more than Jadakiss for an hour set and you can't remember nine minutes of rhymes. It's time, Smack, where you had to? I can't eat that.

That's my favorite, you know, Oh you know that sh That shit might be on my fucking tombsto. I can't.

Oh, were the business did you think the business would be so hard for so many of these brothers to grasp. And the business means the money, the finances, the paperwork. They don't understand that concept of paperwork and W nine's and all that. How hard has it been to try to get some of these individuals to understand we do this for the love of the culture, but it's still business.

Yeah.

I try to bring that home to these dudes all the time because, like you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day, you know what I mean.

You know, these people want their money. You know what I mean. It's modern day slavery.

Man.

They not letting nobody eat just to eat. You understand what I'm saying. You gotta pay them taxes, man, And that's a form of slavery. Like you know what I'm saying, because you know, at the end of the day, still say that the time. Listen, man, they need their PC. I don't give a fuck if you make five dollars, I want two fifty.

That's how they just how that's how this government give it up. You understand what I'm saying.

And I can't be responsible for nobody else. I only I only could be responsible for my ship.

You know what I'm saying. Everybody gotta you.

Know what I mean, be grown men and take care and handle the weight. You know, they make their own decision or however they want to move. But like I know that you ain't gonna be able to make no money if you owe these people money.

So I just make sure that you know what I'm saying.

My tasers crossing, my eyes has dotted, and everybody else is on their own time. But it's definitely a business, you know what I'm saying, Because you know what I'm saying, any dollar that is going into your account got to be accounted for.

And that's just basically what it is.

You feel me, And you know, I explain that to.

I explain that to all these dudes, and I try to, like, you know what I'm saying, you know, just me being older, just me being a you know, you know, a role model to a lot of these dudes that you know what I mean, seeing you know, my accomplishments and see where I came from and see where you know the levels that I took it to and how I took it to them levels. It's certain protocols that you got to follow and paying taxes is one of them. You know what I'm saying, So you gotta basically you know

You know what I mean? Those two. It's key you feel me so essential for anybody else this last year.

Also in the culture, you you befriended a lot of people. You might advanced people money. You might have paid niggas rent, You might have did a lot. Yes, some times a lot of brothers get mad at you when they not on this car. They ain't getting this battle. I just but they might not be putting them asking them, you know them asses in them seats. They might not be buying the pay for you. How hard has it been for you to tell some of your friends, yo, you're

Yo?

I can't.

I mean it is a matter for you.

You know, it cost a lot of tension, you know what I'm saying, and the course of my career, you know, but at the end of the day, you know, like you said, like it's a business. At the end of the day, Like you know what I'm saying, I got to keep the machine going so we all can eat.

So I had to learn that because I was.

On some personal shit for a long time looking out for niggas just you know what I mean, knowing more fuckers situation might not prepare or might fuck up or might not you know what I mean, deliver fucking three rounds.

But you know what I'm saying, I have a liking for them.

I have some type of loyalty for these individuals.

So it's just like, yo, come on, I'm gonna place you.

But like that shit is over with because that shit started to like jeopardize my situation of credibility of respect when it came to the fans and shit like that. So I had to cut that shit out because you know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, I'm not gonna let you know what I'm saying nobody else negligence interrupt my opportunities of what I created and what I established to basically feed my family.

You understand what I'm saying.

Because you let the fans know that might not know that at one particular point you was kind of banned in New York and no fault to yours. We had the Urban Plaza unfortunate incidents, the banger, but then the punch and Irvin Plaza too, and you took all the blame for the first of all, the fight and that took place. You got kicked out of New York and then the unfortunate incident happened. So that's one of the

First of all, New York City is just the like that state is just a fucked up state when it comes to business speak on this. You know what I'm saying, as far as let's start with the taxes, Like if you live in the Five Boroughs, not only that you got to pay you know what I'm saying, the fects, you gotta pay the Feds federal income.

Then you gotta pay the state.

And if you live in the Five Boroughs, you gotta pay the city taxes of New York City.

Bro, you understand that what I'm saying, You're getting hit from three different angles.

Not to mention, you know, the venues and shit like that. They scared of us. They don't even want they don't even want to give us the business, like you know what I'm saying, even though I could pack that shit out with my eyes closed.

Half two thousand motherfuckers come up in your motherfucking venue. Yeah it's a little rowdy, but everybody's coming in peace, like they just want to see what they want to see, you know what I mean.

They scared of our kind, like you know what I mean. So like you know what I mean, I feel like you know what I mean, New York.

Is been discriminating against you know what I'm saying our culture, you know what I mean when it comes to like underground for years, so it's hard for me to secure the venues necessary for us to have a successful event where it makes sense, where I can actually recoup the money that you know, what I'm saying is basically being allocated out.

To make the event happen.

You understand what I'm saying, Like it's just the nasty market, you know what I'm saying all around the board, like you know what I'm saying, and then not to even mention like I know everybody in the city, so like it's hard for me to tell niggas no, I can't.

I just can't tell no too because I was outside. Niggas did a lot of shit for me.

Yo.

They good, Yo, he good?

Yo?

How much he good?

He good?

I don't get no money in New York, bro.

And also let the audience know that they might not know they hear about it. Let them know how real them hip hop police is. Let them know how real it is.

Listen, man, I mean, I just I they knew me for years because of what I did, Like you know what I mean, you know, guns and all type of shit.

You know, Yo, this person got hit. Yo.

Heard it was on Camra.

I ain't had nothing to do, Yo, Yo, heard was on Smack. Y'all get out of here like I wasn't even out. Youre bugging like they they hip hop police is real, Like you know what I'm saying. In case you don't know, but you know what I'm saying. You know, I know some hip hop police and they fuck with me like you know what I'm saying. So it's like, Yo, listen, YO, We're gonna let you rock your smack. Just make sure this, this, this,

Listen what I'm saying.

So you know you're laying on.

Some real quick smack.

You you know, it being hard to do business in New York and those other factors that you talked about, is that when you started doing more stuff on the West Coast.

Yeah, I was always on the West Coast. I was on the West Coast. Since you know what I'm saying, it's smack DVDs.

When I was around there with Game and you know what I mean, Game had me and Compton and you know, you know what I'm saying.

You know, b m F.

You know what I'm saying. We was out there, like I was. We We we had like a lot of ties, you know.

What I'm saying, Mitchie Slick and them, you know, fucking m the cartoon, you know what I'm saying, on some tattoo.

All this shit, like you know what I mean. I was real diverse with like you know, the content that I.

Was creating for the West Coast and giving them that look on the East Coast and around the world or wherever like my arms reached to. You know, I always felt that I was always a fan of the West Coast, you know, movement as far as like n w A.

You know what I'm saying, ice Cube, you.

Know what I mean.

Easy, You know what I mean, Doctor Dre You know what I mean. Fucking one of the best, if not the best, producing the world. Like you understand what I'm saying. So I felt that it was necessary for me to have that representation on my platform.

So you know what I'm saying.

I made it necessary for me to make my way out there, being from the East Coast, you know what I'm saying, Just you know, connecting dots and linking up with you know what I'm saying, the real dudes out there on that coast and and and really giving them that that proper you know what I'm saying, visualization.

So everybody else.

From the South, from the East, from Central you know what I'm saying, America, Europe, Africa, respect, you know what I mean.

What you know the West Coast was about. You know what I'm saying.

I had Nissey hustle, like you know what I mean before you know what I mean, anybody you know you know that that that that that really you know, took it there like I got.

Exclusive shit.

I don't even drop with this yet and I still got that ship in the top. You know what I'm saying, because you know, it's.

Just something in a time that I felt that like he was just like the knives are fucking you know what I'm saying.

The West Coast, you know what I'm saying.

And no lovem yo.

We love him in New York.

I don't think they're not yo yo.

Let you that nigga, Like you know what I'm saying, God bless the death, but like you know what I'm saying, like and it's just like he just reminded me so much of Knives from the from from the West Coast.

It's just like yo, yo dog, your comme here, yo, you know, let's do some shit, like you know.

What I'm saying.

But he was running around the East Coast like it was nothing, you know what I'm saying. Like he was outside for rip, you know what I'm saying. So it was all love though, you know what I mean.

Well, yeah, he was definitely doing his thing. Now, when did you decide to bring you off into the battle rap to you are ill? When did you decide the forum that well what the batter rack?

Yeah? Yeah, when did you decide to form your lead? Oh?

Like that's after, that's after, Like you know what I mean.

I always wanted to represent the art form of battle rap because I felt that it was, like you know what I'm saying, essential for that representation of the art form of lyricism to be fucking represented worldwide because that's what we grew up loving. I consider that hip hop, like you know what I'm saying, motherfucker's coming battling each other, exchanging rhymes, going bar to bar and shit like that.

That's in me, you know what I mean.

From high school when we used to be in a motherfucker lunch room, you know, period seven, we in a lunch room. We got these two niggas going at it. I bet you know what I'm saying. You know, the whole school, they didn't even go to class. Everybody's in the motherfucking lunch room just basically just like you want to see.

What's going on.

So like that representation of like lyricism, I felt that was necessary for me to represent on my platform, you know what I'm saying. So on the DVD, I always made sure that it had its real estate on my DVD. At the end of the DVD. If you go to any Smack DVD, you go to that last chapter the end of the DVD, you always had a classic battle.

That was my signature.

So now when you know World Star came out two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, you know they started really blowing up two thousand and seven, two thousand and six, two thousand and seven, World Star came out God Bless the Dead Q.

You know know, So what I'm saying, he really and with you know what I'm saying, the content online he was just basically he started his whole platform, taking all our ship, taking all our ship, your dog, I'm lying.

That's why he had conversation.

Why that's why we have with them.

Mother, Like, yo, how this nigga eat you know, and the nigga blew and took it off. He took our ship, popped his ship off with our ship, and then taking every everybody sending him ship. So he ain't had to put no work in, you know what I'm saying.

All the content on World Star could have been the biggest ship in the world if they would have produced their own content. They never used their own content though, so it was like it was this people he grabbing clips or he grabbing clipps.

It was smart, it was genius.

It was genius actually, because he ain't had to put the man hours the label, flying to the West coast, flying to the south, getting up with these artists.

These artists don't pick up their phones. Bro, you gotta call a million times before mother fucking pick up his phone.

That's why I stopped doing.

What the fuck I do that, you know what I'm saying, because it took me too, yo.

Call I still to this day, don't even call it like, yo, Bro, I don't call niggas more than two times.

How good I see you.

When I see you?

Real temperamental people.

Dog.

You know I'm not mad at them because you know what I mean, Artists deal with a lot. But like you know what I mean, I'm not calling the nigga phone a million. You know I'm calling you see me calling the dogs. I'm a real nigga too. You understand what I'm saying. You're getting money. I'm getting money too, but you swong my money down not picking up your phone. You know what I'm sam saying.

So that's when you know.

World Star came out, and then the technology came.

Technology started catching up a time when motherfuckers can have their own fucking cameras and ship like that. Fucking cameras started being on your phone. Motherfuckers was filling pulling out their phones, catching the artists at gas stations. Motherfuckers, Oh ship yo go you go gz yo, GIZI what's up? And they're fucking post that ship. The blocks don't give a fuck. The blogs is taking that footage, putting it on they websites just because it's gonna get hits and views.

They didn't care where the content was coming from. Because you know what I'm saying, they just want the clicks.

Took us.

Crazy.

It was just like, yeah, like.

Artist content started decreasing in value, it started decreasing in value.

Because it was more exclusive. It's no more exclusive more. It's like, Yo, I'm I'm running around the country.

I'm flying the South, flying in Atlanta, flying to LA flying the fucking Miami, flying to New York, creating a DVD. It's taking me four months to fucking put out a DVD when all the information is being already uploaded on these fucks on websites, just because somebody is asking the artists that they've seen at the fucking gas station with their motherfucking camera phone and they fucking uploading that. All the blogs and all the fucking websites is posting that

And now that shit is all over the internet, Like I can't compete with the world.

Yeah, technology man at one point.

Technology at one point fucked the game up, but it made it more broad and it brings the millions of people like I wass thinking about a conversation that I was having them with Eight's red partner from CMW The Child, and he was telling me how Aight and Snoop used to battle back in middle school.

Dad. Can you imagine if y'all had a camera during that time.

Go go oh chatter Uncle Snoop, you know what I mean. Snoop was one of the realist dudes that I came across in this culture. And you know, I'm an uncle too. They call me Uncle Smack. I'm in an uncle club, you know what I'm saying. There's only a couple of uncles in the game.

Read Alert started it read Alert started, Uncle Red started.

Snoop, Uncle Ross.

Luke, Uncle Uncle Luke.

I considered Uncle Bunny, Uncle bun Deez an uncle to me, Like you know what I'm saying, man, uncle smack Man.

You know what I mean, it's a couple of uncles to being an uncle club. You gotta you gotta be, you gotta be, you gotta be cut.

From a different cloth.

Charlotte Mane, Charlie. I mean it's trying to be coming into the uncle club too, Uncle Sean. But I don't know.

So hip hop flat what he do because the kid is different. When it comes to the journalism, you know what I'm saying, and.

You know what I mean.

He he broke down doors. That is incredible. So like you know what I'm saying.

I respect it, but like you know.

What I mean when it comes to street stop, Yeah, yeah, what I'm saying.

HIPOs fifty smack hip Hop fifty is here amongst us. Do you feel like battle rap is getting the appreciation that it needed, specifically what you brought to it in this hip hop fifty landscape, Because we got to be honest. For a while, hip hop was fucked up and battle rap brought a different eyes to it from all over the world because it was hip hop and its purest form. So we look at the cold Crush, we look at him. They started out meeting in the park, rapping against her,

Don't even know.

I don't even know. I don't even know.

You know, I don't know where they placing me at.

You ain't been in, no celebrations, nothing, you know, Nah, Like I don't, I don't know.

And you know it's crazy because I feel like I put a lot up, you know what I'm saying, blusod, sweat and tears into this culture.

I contribute my contribution to this ship is different. I created a whole genre.

Industry, it's say industry inside the hip hop industry. You understand, I created my own industry where motherfuckers could you know, actually get paid to do something that they loved to do that they wasn't getting paid to do before. Motherfuckers used to just battle for credibility. You understand what I'm saying, who had the ill bars or who had the illis lyrics and lyrics or lyricism, or who had like you know what I mean, who killed who? Motherfuckers used to do that shit for credibility.

Now I created a whole lane where motherfuckers is getting paid to do.

A whole new fucking you know what I mean art form that exists withinside the hip hop culture.

You know, hip hop is based on competition.

I want to play you the thing for him bringing him to the Gangst The Chronicles is important because when we start talking about the Gangst the Rap Chronicles, one of the you know, the offshoots of the name and the concept of.

The show.

They was.

They was able to stand on stage in each other face and talk about how they're gonna kill each other ways they gonna kill each other, but not have to kill each other face there. So, hey, let me ask you something, do you think and the hate of you and quick with y'all ship, do y'all think y'all would have been able to stand in front of each other and rap battle at one point?

No, because we was gang bangers. It wasn't about rapping. It was about the neighborhood. It wasn't about rap music. Rapping was rapping, that's.

All it was.

So it wasn't like I'm out here to try to battle rap a nigga and get some money and embarrass the nigga.

Our ship.

Our ship bled deep because of neighborhood times. That's what it was about. So we couldn't we couldn't be battle rappers because niggas be getting killed because first of all, you ain't finna put no crypt blood in the same place because the result is finna be fighting first ship.

Don't IM about to give a fuck about no rap music music. Yeah, that's how it went.

Now, you know that's a different I guess it's a different aspect if if that's what you on is just trying to be an MC. But a lot of us was from the neighborhood first. Even before a rap started, we was game banging, you feel me? So, uh, that's the difference of That's why a lot of our our talk was was on records, because when you met a nigga, it.

Wasn't it was fighting here. It was dunk them first. That's what it was. Yeah, And I don't think the thing that was interest in the boat.

The situation with any niggas over here who had beef with each other, the niggas was chunking them when they see each other. It wasn't no nigga, let's go on stage and grab the mic and talk about each other. Nah, nigga, I'm trying to bust your motherfucking face open.

So that's what it was all. A lot of a lot of of of art, of artists who came.

From my era who dealt with gangs and all that shit you could and been put in that settle. That segment. Battle rapping is just that. That's for niggas who are on BMC's you know. You know, I don't give a fuck you from a block or whatever. You know, A lot of that shit progressed down the road because when I first started rapping, niggas had beef.

We wasn't thinking about.

You know.

That's why a lot of our our shit was spoken on records, because that's where we was able to confront a nigga. Because you see a nigga in the streets, ain't no nigga, I'm finna drop this line on you and say, nigga, homie, he's talking about you smoking me, or you're finna kill me.

Real pistols is coming out, real fist is flying and getting me.

So yeah, I'm just trying to picture some cheet cats man begging that they man standing in front of each other talking about each other, because you know, cats would have got real disrespectful with it. Somebody would have got disrespectful and disrespected somebody's neighborhood and it would have been a melee before he can get a second bar out the top.

About that, dude's here's some more. It had been twenty thirty people on stage.

The first battle I seen on camera from your side was I think the Bay. It was severe versus casual. You remember that it was the first time I seen two people from the West Coast in battle and.

Battle.

But as time went on, I'm like, now these thing it's too real to be. Ain't nobody gonna be standing and spitting each other face? They gonna get crazy with it, you know what I'm saying. So that when we see where the battle rap culture is now. These are sometimes dudes who might have little rivalries in the sense of they research on each other that they're gonna bring out in the battle, But it don't really be no past street history. Sometimes it is a little bit what makes

Eight.

I know it wasn't possible for that shit to happen because again, when you see a nigga fuck music, you know what I'm saying. Music was how you got off on a nigga like I had, I had, we spent your block, you know what I'm saying. But it wasn't though, we're gonna spend your block, or we're gonna do this, we're gonna do that. Those is like this record, but more was like a response of the ship that actually

Your I never disrespected anybody's neighborhood, even though I might add beef with niggas. I never brought neighborhoods into it because me being from a neighborhood, it's bigger than that shit. Man, So you know niggas do that shit nowadays. But if I beef with the nigga, I kept it to the nigga.

You guys me.

I tried to keep it on that level as far as hip hop was concerned, because at the end of the day, I still was a hip hop artist, you feel me. So I didn't want to necessarily go too deep on that aspect when it came to dissing the nigga if I had beef with him, because I really didn't beef with niggas. Everybody know whatever the aspect was, But basically the intention when you was writing a record or ditch record, it was basically just your feelings.

Of how you felt about a motherfucker.

You give me the nigga you and I guess that no different if niggas wanted to express themselves if they could. You know, uh, you know, you got other football players. They get in practices, they fuck that nigga or we're gonna but they don't necessarily do it that deep. But you know they might be like, oh yeah number twelve till number twelve were coming for him this weekend, or or or tell motherfucker you know.

So basically writing a disk record.

And it necessarily wasn't too I think like in what y'all called the Battle Rap thame, niggas go deep to expose a motherfucker. You feel me, With writing a disc record, I'm just saying, fuck a nigga. You know, don't necessarily I don't necessarily know your mama or your financial status or where you nigga. All I know is like, nigga, I don't like you.

So it's neop you didn't come, try to come with no extra fly metaphors and that ship because really.

And then it really wasn't like I want.

I wouldn't say, uh, necessarily like battling niggas, we just busting rhymes, you know, I would call it more of a cipher we had then, like a nigga, you ain't this or Nigga, you ain't that. We never did that. It was more like I'm missing I'm that, and I'm missing I'm that. And then he was more like, well, I'm from here, and I'm from here and I'm missing I'm that. So it's basically like a cipher we had. So, like I said, it's different from you know, battle rapping

That's it, you know.

I mean a battle rapper, I think battle rapping it's more to expose the individual and his skills and who the fuck he think he is as a motherfucking battle rapper. So Nigga, just like the Homie said when when he was on the show what's his name that we had, he said, nigga. Oh, And then the benefit of it is from what y'all tell me. I'm gonna tell you you're fin the battle this nigga next week. Right, But now I get to go do my homework on motherfucking

Hey, it don't got deeper. Hey, it don't got so deep in battles, dude. Us the big screen in the back, dudes had on T shirts with a nigga mother baby mother getting fucked on it. That's the research they was able.

To do it. That's a lot deep.

But then I guess you have to.

I guess you got to present that showmanship because you on stage. It's a show. Right.

It's no different than when I get on stage and I got props. I might bring a lowrider bike out or play play my scenes from minutes to society in the background or whatever. So I guess as a battle rapper, Yeah, you want to have your props.

You want to have your.

Motherfucking stage presence. So y'all want the big screen. I want to put a picture up of this nigga when he got socked in the mouth. I want to put up a big screen to the nigga when his baby mama was cheating on him, and shit she was at the movies with another nigga or some shit, all kinds of shit.

So yeah, that's what you call chowmanship.

Though, in that motherfucking realm of hip hop, you gotta ask chowmanship, especially if you want to be that top dog. And like you said, with all the props and the technology and all the research you can do that that could be critical for some niggas. He can basically destroy some niggas battle career. Yeah, I think we love Smack. I would love to have him here to answer this one.

I saw, you know, the homely man from the baby Man, mister fab right, he dealves off into that battling world. He's actually really dope, Yes, but I saw I forget the call. He was battling man for Arsenal he was failing Arsenal. Arsenal got to talking about busting nuts in.

His daughter's face, disrespectful, doing this and that, talking about his daughter.

Fuck your sick daughter or slaughter our duct taper and throw that little sick something.

And I was just like, oh my god, this dude, he the girl.

You set yourself up for that, right and battle rapping, you said, That's why I said, it would have been very difficult to from you know, from the days of niggas dissing each other and neighborhoods being involved. That would have been a hard scene to control because the minute the niggas say, nigga, your hood, ain't this a nigga? Y'all some this, and then nigga, that's why we killed so and so, and nigga's over.

That's what driller is doing now, little drill cats over there in Chicago. Yeah, I mean that's New York too.

Yeah, that's state way of you know, they call you out, say who got killed, nigga, We peeled sos and so, cap this package and then at the bus stopped screaming like a bitch and wootie. Yeah they do all that ship now. So that's why you have so much controversy and conflict. You give me as opposed to niggas who was battle rappers in my day, You give me you had an Ll cool J and coolmodgo at it and

I had my.

Battles with quick and and you know. But sometimes it was to the necessarity of well, we kept it on records, didn't You didn't You never saw uh LLL or cool Man with d tell my, let's get in the boxing ring and you know, scrap or let's bus guns at

Is that first contracts not to fight them?

Yeah.

At first it was a little bit funny because you know, he was being light. But then when he started doing certain stuff and it was.

Kind of like, man, so basically you have to you have to sign the contract saying that you're gonna take the humiliation.

You gotta keep I would assume, man, and I would assume that to keep your cane. That's a hard pill to swallow. Stuff. Sign a contract.

It's a rapper name good.

You have hands on and you have to allow this motherfucker to say whatever they want to say. Now, look, basically put your basically put yourself out there for it. You know it's you better be hard as a motherfucker all out.

That's all I know.

If you want to get into that motherfucking realm of hip hop, if you know whatever music, whatever you want to call it.

Uh, you better have some tough skin. Yeah, really you know.

Still, it's a rapper name Goods who put in every contract. I don't give a fuck what you say about me. Don't say nothing about my daughter. But he put it in writing that the artist wasn't allowed to speak about his daughter. He said. The only reason why I'm saying that because when she get older, I don't want her to ever see her. Daddy stood there and had the nigga say your little baby daughter, suck my dick. He said, nah, we you can say whatever you want about me, fuck me,

I got it, don't I got it? Right?

Lad On, y'all all right.

Smack you you missed it, Doug. We was talking about some of them, real disrespectful battle rappers. Let me see, is he back? But he got froze out again. Look like we got froze out again. We got some we got smacked back in the building, but he froze. He got some technical difficulties going on. Were gonna talk a little bit, Man about this lineup Man that Summer Madness.

Man is going down. It is going down.

Sunday, August twenty seventh, Man the Ultimate Rap League was touched down in Houston, Texas the whole Summer Madness thirteen, the pinnacle of being in the world of battle rap, featuring a full evening of electrifying showdowns from the most respected names from around the coach. You know they got some cats. I know you, ag, you ain't really familiar with the battle rap, saying you you you heavy into it?

I see him. I love battle rap. On I've never been into it, so I've never been into it.

Yeah you, but I'm gona have to take you to some events. Look, well, we was talking about smacking you you good now? He got technically he got you got technical difficulties going on. They got a good line up, man, They got Tay Rock versus ad t Top versus John John to Don DNA versus Jerry West, Fine Fines versus Shotgun Sugar.

And New Jersey Twerk versus howld have done? These cats got some color names.

Man.

Yeah, I have no disrespect, but I've never gotten into the you know, I've I've heard, I've seen a couple as far as the Internet is concerned, when they come across, But I never got into the battle rap thing.

Yeah, well you know what it is, man, It's like it's definitely acquired taste. It's definitely one of those acquired tastes.

Man, for you to be heavy into it, what is the What is what I want to say is.

What is that angle of performing hip hop or whatever? Like is the intention to ever make a record or is it just to be a disrespectful battle rapper?

I think you know what I think because of what Smack is done with the culture now with Survive, But lifting, to me, it's just another branch of the hip hop tree. You feel what I'm saying? Like, you know, we got gangster rap. Now you got trio. You even got the country western you know, the country dudes doing the rap now, you know what I mean over country music.

I look at it just like that.

Look at it more as a competitive sport now, like just like how gaming it is now. And it's one of them things. Man. I definitely like, man, the older stuff a little bit better because it was a little less disrespectful. You know, they got in people's ass, but there was certain lines you didn't cross. Like if you heard about a dude's mama just passed away, you was gonna leave that alone. You feel what I'm saying.

It wasn't this.

You know, you had some dudes that got disrespectful though, but they kept it to a limit when you agree, be they kept it to limit. Now, like with that cat man, like with the arsenal cat and stuff, Man, I would probably whoop his ass.

Yeah, like I said, I would never you know, So it's an acquired taste for sure.

Smack you good now your yacky heavy Yeah for sure, we can hear you man before we get to that.

Yeah, pardon for the technical difficulties.

Man, It's all good. It happened, man, But but that's what we do. We go get through it. You know what I'm saying, We get through.

You know, I that modems and all type of ship. This make sure I come back to this.

Interview, man, sure, Man, And I appreciate it, Bro, And I appreciate it because you know, it ain't every day man, people get to talk to you.

So I really appreciate it. Man.

One of the things we talked about, man with some of the disrespect because see, I'm a battle Rat fan eight.

I ain't gonna say, you.

Know, he's not too familiar with the sport, you know what I mean, He's not too familiar with it, right, So I could be kind of like, you know, letting him know what's going on with it.

One of the things we talked about was back in the day, wasn't it disrespectful?

People would get in your ass, But they kind of left some stuff to you know, they just left some stuff to the imagination. They had a class about it, you know what I mean. Now you got cancers, don't give a fuck what they say to somebody.

Man.

I looked at that what was his name, Briant Arsenal. I looked at Arsenal battle somebody's daughter. He was talking about the dudes daughter or whatever like that. I said, Man, how to probably knocked this dude out.

Yeah, man, you know, you gotta have a tough skin to be in this culture. You know what I'm saying, there's no rules. You know, you got some dudes that respect certain ethnics in certain codes. Then you got some dudes that just don't give a fucking just gonna just do that. Like you know what I'm saying, Arsenal, Arsenals, he's known, his name is missed, disrespectful, he gonna disrespect Andy and everything going. I've done seen people speak about the dead, you know what I'm saying.

I've seen people talk.

About you know what I'm saying baby moms and all types of shit, Like you know what I'm saying.

That's why, like, you gotta have a tough skin to be in this culture.

And you know what I'm saying, your your your your resume or your rapport, your your your your your your your life gotta be you know what I.

Mean, squeaky clean.

Because if anything, you got any dirt on your name or any dirt that's associated with you, motherfucker's is gonna find that ship and try to expose it. I mean, that's a part of the culture. You know what I mean, that's part of the coach, that's part of this ship.

You know what I'm saying.

Well, it's just coming out for sure.

Man.

So let's talk about man. Let's talk about summer.

Man.

That's thirteen. Man, you gotta wind up on the man. Who you looking at? Who you're looking to see the moves? Who are you looking forward to see over there?

Every everybody, every battle I put everything together. I want to to I put this card. I want to see every battle on his card.

Man. So you personally, you said, what So you personally put this card together?

Yeah?

Yeah, with the assistance of my team and ship like that. But like you know, I co signed and check off on everything. You understand what I'm saying. So, like you know what I mean, this car right here.

I want to see the outcome of every battle because I feel like everything, every battle on this car is competitive.

You know. Sure, one of the names on there, it's because a lot of legends on there, man, But one name in particular, Man.

How would have done? How long has How would have Done? Been around? Man forever? You know what I mean?

He was He's one of the like you know what I mean, He was another on Smack DVD. It's certain classes of the ship though, you know what I'm saying. You got the Godfathers of the Grandfathers of the coaching.

Which was you know what I'm saying.

You know, the Murder Moves of course, the Loaded Lucks, J Mills, the party Artis, the t Rex's, the the mid Midwest Miles, you got X factor, you got like these dudes was on Smack DVD map Hot for Eye inside Coloman. You know what I'm saying, These are the dudes that's in the coaching that was on the Smack EVD. So they considered like the.

The Godfathers or the grand the Granddaddy's other ship.

And then you got the U R L class you know what i mean, which you know, consists of like you know what I'm saying, the Hollow, the Dons, the Tate Rocks, the you know, you know everybody else, Calicos, the you know then you know J Mills, I mean not J Mills, but like you know, I mean the Geechee Gottis, the Rumnittis, the New Jersey Torch, the you know what I'm saying, those are like the newer generations of like you know what I'm saying, it's coaching.

So you know you mentioned the main man that's a friend of our show man that's extent.

His cousin's over here with me right now. Man gott you man, that kid really came in and made the impact.

Man Nutty blocked, Nutty Gang, I heard you over. Yeah, I was in a hood.

You know what I'm saying.

You know, I had to come tap in and see what the fuck was going on. You know what I mean.

I had to see if someone was certified.

He showed me he was certified.

The whole hook came out, you know what I'm saying, and it just you know, gave me that hospitality, like you know what I'm saying, made me feel I'm good over there anytime I pull up. You know what I'm saying, And you know what I mean, it's vice versa on my side.

Way, you know what I'm saying. He come, You know what I'm saying. In New York, but like you know what I'm saying, Nah, I saw love.

You know what I'm saying. You know, geeky, you know what I'm saying.

One of the best you know what I'm saying in the culture right now, hands down, hands down, I speaking that real.

You know what I'm saying, hood shit that you know, real.

Street dudes appreciate.

So you know what I'm saying, He's definitely, you know what I'm saying, one of my favorites right now. You know what I mean, I got a lot, I got a great deal of respect, and I'll rock with him and shit, you know what I mean.

Well, you truly a hustler man, And this is gonna be on the Caffeine APIs everybody we would have a link. We gonna make sure to put a link in the description man, so they can go to caffeine Man to sign up.

Man. How did you get plugged up? Man?

Because I heard a lot of it. Man, You just like the world's greatest ustler man. Looked up Man, you signed the big deals man with Caffeine.

That's what I said. Man, he out there getting some paper.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shout out to us.

You know what I mean.

Champagne shopping, champagne poppy. You know what I'm saying, Drake, You know you know what I mean. He's the liaison between the connection between me and caffeine.

You know what I mean.

You know, I got a good relationship with you know what I'm saying the whole over Yon Drake himself, and you know what I mean.

We always used to trap it up. And you know what I mean.

He's like such a big you know what I'm saying, battle rap fan and a fan of Smack first and foremost, and a fan of the U r L TV movement, and you know what I mean, It's just like every time we used to see each other, He's like your snack, Yo.

I promise you, yo, We're gonna do something. Man, We're gonna do something.

I'm gonna put a player for us together so we can get some money together. I just wanted, basically, you know what I'm saying, you know, show my love and appreciation of your contributions, of what you brought to this culture, and I just want to just get some money with you. I'm gonna put a play together for you, and you know what I'm saying, We're gonna, We're gonna make something happen.

I got you, you know what I'm saying. And you know, you know he we always used to say that shit. He always used to say that shit. You know what I mean.

He popped up to one of my events like, Yo, I have to come here and smack you. I'm telling you we're gonna do saying, and then he really called me like yo, smack yo.

I got it, Yo. This is what we're doing.

This, this, this, that and the third you know what I'm saying. You know, so he put that, you know what I'm saying, plug together and you know what I'm saying. He threw me a layup and I ain't never looked back.

You know what I'm saying.

I just took the ball and ran with it. You feel what I'm saying.

And you know what I'm saying.

Yeah, so you know what I mean.

That's how we linked with caffeine and shit, you know what I mean. We did the caffeine thing. You know what I mean, shot the caffeine. You know, I just gave the world the opportunity, like you know what I'm saying, saying, to have access. That was our vision, Like you know what I'm saying. Because he used to like Drake is such a fan.

He used to be on the phone for like, you know what I'm saying. I was just going back and forth and shit. He's like, Yo, I've seen that event.

I like this, but this kind of like it took me so long to log in and I had troubles, like you know what i mean, logging and I can't see this shit for.

Like a certain amount of time, and then it came on.

It's good.

We got to fix all that.

So he just felt like, you know what I'm saying, He wanted to give you know what I mean, a culture, like you know what I'm saying, a better experience when it came to having access to the content, you know what I'm saying. So that was his angle with his just like damn, how can I make this shit bigger? And you know what i mean, We're just like, yo, damn yo. You know it would be dope.

Fuck the pay per view, Like you know what I'm saying that the world actually see this shit for free, but you still get your bread, you know what I'm say. I'm saying, let's try to do something like that.

So he created an opportunity for us to link up with you know what I mean, a streaming company as Caffeine. They was just getting off the ground. They needed the content, they needed the you know what I'm saying to use a you know what I mean.

Base and shit like that.

So we had everybody signed up to Caffeine to have access to the content, and you know what I'm saying, it was a perfect marriage and shit for you know what I'm saying the time and shit like you know what I mean.

So, you know what I mean.

It's very dope, man, And I'm a fan of that movement. Man.

I'm actually got some plays on working man, because I do believe that you can make a lot of money off of content, man, but get it to the people for free. Yeah, absolutely, you know what I'm saying. And that's one of the good things that technology has brought to the table.

You know.

Yeah.

And we did it in the middle of the pandemic when everybody was stuck in the motherfucking house, you understand. So it was like, you know what I mean, it just made perfect sense, you know what I mean. It's like, Yo, we're gonna just do this shit real quick, you know what I mean. Everybody's tuned in, everybody's trapped.

In the house, like you know what I Man, let's put on that ship.

You're now. One of the questions I had, man, because I heard you wasn't hosting it this year.

Nah, I'm hosting, you know what I mean.

I was just like, you know, I put out a thread the other day just like like yo, you know what I mean, Like, yo, man, you know I'm fifteen years.

Into this shit.

Man, this is something man that's thirteen man, Like you know what I mean.

I'm like, I'm like fifteen years into this shit. So I'm just like yo, man, Yo, this card is so crazy, you know what I mean, and so competitive.

I just want to enjoy it. As from a fan's perspective.

You understand what I'm saying.

I want to enjoy your shit, just like I'm a fan. First niggas think yo smack just this, that and the third, But nah, I really love this shit man. You understand what I'm saying. So it's like I want to just chill, sip on my drink and just watch, you know what I mean, everybody get busy, you.

Know what I mean, instead of like, you know what I mean. So I was just like, yo, man, I'm about to do something with you know what I'm saying.

I might have you know what I mean, just you know, just different people host so I might just get a co host or whatever, just to turn up, just to you know what I'm saying, so I could just sit back and.

Just enjoy this ship.

Man. You know, sometimes.

With it, huh yeah, sometimes you just want to watch your son play because you know me and they both.

You know, my perspective in my view is the best view in our house though, because I'm right there in front of center.

But I just want to just get a different you know what I'm saying, point of view and ship like that. I want to see how I feel it, you know what I mean. Sit down, man, I've been standing on my feet. You know what I'm saying for years.

You know what I'm say.

I'm saying.

You know them batteries and the eventually longest longest hit man. You know, I talking about nine hours standing on your feet.

You know what I mean. Just chilling, you know what I mean. And it's just like yo, I just want to be chilling. I just want to sit back and.

Just enjoy this shit sometimes, man, you know, or yeah, for sure, for sure, man, I'm gonna asking this question.

I know I ain't gonna get no answer from you. Any predictions.

Of of of of summer madness?

Yeah, of course madness. Yeah, any predictions. Oh man, no, I don't. You know, you know, I don't got no.

Like I put the car together to figure the ship out, man, Like this is what I do it Like I really.

Like battle with like you know what I mean.

I put the car together because I don't know who the fuck will win these battles, you know.

What I'm saying.

I don't know who's gonna win.

So it's like I feel like everybody have a chance to win. That's why that's how I picked the card, because it's so competitive. You got Jerry West versus DNA. You got t T, you got t Top against you know what I'm saying, John Johna done like anybody could take it.

You got shotguns, Shigar against motherfucking you know what I'm saying, Fans.

Against fans.

You know what I'm saying, Like that that that's that's crazy. You gotta hollow the down versus New Jersey.

Twurk's crazy.

You got DNA versus Jerry West.

It's gonna be crazy. It's a crazy car. Like it's a crazy car, and people and.

People and people are trying to, like, you know, criticize the card, saying your shit is Mikia.

Yo, Bro, I don't do the name shit no more like I've been off the name shit. I want people that get busy.

I want people that's gonna go and you know what I'm saying, give one hundred and ten percent when they step in that motherfucking stage and really turn up and everybody that's battling each other is gonna basically, you know what I'm saying, deliver the best performance. Like that's how

You know what I'm saying wrong, You're keeping it wrong, you know.

And I guarantee you, and I guarantee you.

I guarantee you that this is gonna be like the best card of the year. Guy.

You know what I'm saying content wise?

You know what I mean when it comes to entertainment, when it comes to the competitiveness of the culture, I guarantee you.

This ship, Like you know what I'm saying be You know what I mean that that that that ship. I'm the god of this ship. I'm the god of this ship.

I'm the god of this ship.

Let's talk, I'm the god of this ship.

So so so so so.

You know, I love when people try to like question me and and try to like, we're gonna see what it's hitting for we are.

This is what I do.

You understand.

I'm talk You know I'm gonna talk. You're I'm gonna talking respectfully, like you know what I'm saying.

And you know, at the end of the day, when it's all sudding down, i'mna just look and like, yeah, I told y'all, so you know what I'm saying.

Like I told y'all, you know what I mean.

And I want to see anybody else that's doing anything else in the motherfucking culture live up to what the fuck this ship is gonna live up to.

Hence done. Like I said, Man, you've done it twice. Man. You know, look, let me tell you something before we get out of here. Man, it is very hard.

To pull the needle out the haystack. You feel what I'm saying, To think of that one dope idea that's life changing. I've had the chance to do it twice in my life. You know big, you know, to think of something and it's really flourished from me, right, it's hard to think of one.

You've done it.

You've done it multiple times, and you've created an industry. Bro Like, honestly, without you, I probably you talk about I inspired you. I wouldn't be doing what I was doing without you did the first.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I was the first, Like Nigga, I was the first podcast to you know, all these podcasts running around, you know what I mean, and they ain't not even doing Like I'm not even gonna I'm not gonna talk too much because I don't want to give them too much game. But like you know what I'm saying, at the end of the day, now they're not even doing it how they need to be doing it. But like you know what I'm saying.

Man, come back on me.

You know what I'm saying.

I can come back anytime I want and reign supreme because I'm connected to a different and higher source, a higher power and the ship.

That's what I'm saying. Like I got the I got the realist and the biggest dudes like you know what I mean behind me, Like you know what I mean. All the dudes that it's over here came up looking and watching me. You feel me.

So it's like, you know, anytime I want to want one change, I could just press the button. And you know that's just the blessings and the gift that I have for the from the contributions that you know what I'm saying, I gave to this ship.

And you know what, dude that's in position, that's real respected.

They respected. You know what it is too, Man.

I can tell that everything you do, you come in to it with the intended just doing the dopest thing possible. I'm gonna tell you what the problem is today with just in general, with content and everything else.

Everybody is looking to make a bag. Everybody's looking to make a bag. Man. But I appreciate you man coming to sit down with us.

Man, You'll remember, definitely, Man, I had a good time. I had a good time.

Man.

I'm sure nobody like.

You know what I'm saying, Yo, man, when when when you I'm ready?

When you ready man?

Or you know you know what the next time, man, the next time I want you to be sitting out here with us. When the next time you be on the coast.

A ship man, I don't even know. I don't even got no no nothing on my itiner rate right now for l A or CALLI. You know what I'm saying right now? But ship we we we we can make it something.

You know what I'm saying.

You know, me and me and eight will be in New York the first of the year. We're gonna go make our little run out. There's time.

We got to go to New York. You know what I mean. We can run out there.

Dog we go bump in to you.

Yeah.

Nah, Just keep the lines open, you know what I'm saying. You know, I'm gonna get your information, You're gonna take.

Minds, and then we're gonna definitely keep the lines of communications open, you know what I mean, and connect.

You know what I mean.

If you ain't doing nothing on the twenty seven, come come pull up, man, you.

Gotta come pull up like I might just do that.

I might, you know what you know I'm gonna roll out, you know, yo, listen, I'm rolling out the red carpet.

You know we got to keep it. You know, we got the key to the city for the weekend. You know what I'm saying. I got, I got, I got, I got a lot of.

Ship going off for the whole weekend.

Come come come through and that you you know what I mean, that's that's that's you know, be the you know what I mean, the official start of an introduction.

Of like you know what I'm saying for real, like yo, come come pull up.

For sure for sure.

Man.

So that concludes this episode.

But before we go, I need you guys to go in that description going to the description down there, man, because some of y'all out there, I wonder about some of y'all.

Love y'all, but I wonder go down there and hit that caffeineling.

So on August twenty seven, when it jumps off, you don't miss out because it's gonna be something to talk about.

Trust murder out So man is thirteen.

Don't miss history. Be a part of it. You're let's get it.

For sure.

On that note, were out of here. Well, that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the iHeart app and subscribe to the Gangst the Chronicles podcast. For Apple users, find a purple mica on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, leave a common and rating. Executive producers for the Games to Chronicles Podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron m c a Tyler. Our visual media director is Brian Whyatt, and our audio