We'd like to welcome everyone to another episode Against the Chronicles podcast This Morning, I don't have my homeboys eight is presidently on tour, James Handless Mother Business. But you know what those guys doing, what they're doing, what I'm doing, What I'm doing This Morning Days gets the former co host legendary comeback Jack So he's also major brand so sneak ahead and foody on top of all this. Yeh's a pretty dope ass podcast. Premium Pete Show Chromes is
welcome to Homeboy Premium Pete. He was cracking up. Thanks, thanks for having me. First off, I know I don't know your other co hosts, but I'm sure they're like nine o'clock man, Premium Pete. You know, man, you know what Actually m c A he left the Goo on tour Mother Man, You're right. He was like, Man, I can't do that. I gotta take my son and do this. Am You know what I mean? Oh no, you know what doom dudes, don't get looking around. Man's love. Man, Listen,
you know what I mean. I beat to my own drum. You know what I mean. I make a good rhythm of it. You know so well? You know before we get started man. Obviously I'm a major fan man, been uh rocking with your movement for a long time. I like how you keep it real and keep it funky. Something today that seems to have disappear. Yeah, I mean I think, like, you know, keeping it real or rocking the boat, so to speak, is a tough thing in
this business, especially for people who are now creatives. Right think about it, right, you know, like people who um have their own brands now and building their own like you know, even like you guys building your your network, your podcast, you know, building building your you know kind of cash flow and and and and building your you know, it's, um, it's a tough world, right, you know what I mean, it's um it's it's not built you know, to help
each other. So I think that that has been changing, where creatives look out for creatives and more people believe in their brands. So I think, like, you know, I say this sort of time. But you know, Hines catch up and uh Hellman's Mayonnaise, regardless if you funk with them or not, those are two peoples in the ketchup in the Mayo. But there's so many chances for gangster chronicles.
Mayo premium pizza sauce, you know, Joe Button Spices. I'm making this up, you know what I'm saying of where it's now more than just you know, just being a podcast or more than just being one thing. You know, And I think that as creatives, you know, you gotta keep it real because you know, some people, I get it, they don't want to rock the boat. But unfortunately you just waste a lot of time, you know what I mean,
It's real. Well, you know what today everything should be based on someone's reality, right And I know some podcasts and what we what I see, I see a lot of Um, I've see a lot of crazy ship. Man. I see a bunch of already five fifty year old cats, some cats even older, doing a bunch of just crazy ship right now, man. Pretty much a lot of cat fighting, yeah, a lot of dudes threatening each other online, a lot of cats talking about ship that don't have no business
being talked about online. Um, and and somebody go wind up getting hurt. Man. What I want to do is kind of go back, man, to your origins for our people to be out here on the West coast. Man, I'm pretty sure you have a healthy audience out here man. Yeah, yeah, definitely. You know, And first off, like I said, I know, you know it's early over there, so you know getting up and getting your day started early. Uh, especially when
it's like later in the day over here. You know, it's it's it's the work you put in, right, you know what I mean. I want to say this before we go into your question. Even like your co hosts, even like people, people focus on podcast too much. What I mean by that is like who's the guest? Right, tend to guests help you. But it's not about only who the guest is on your podcast. It's a guest who's in your fucking circle. So your co host come
on here and they may connect with me. Next thing, you know, I may do something for them that they can't do for themselves. You know what I'm saying. It's not about having premium on your podcast. I mean, for whatever it's worth, there's so many names you can have. Will it help or will it look good? Yeah? I think that's a good thing, just like how I would decipher who will look good on my list of people. Right.
The point I'm trying to make is for me, it's always been building and I don't mean that in a corny way, like Yo, it was build, like you know what I mean, because people would just say, like, Yo, let's get it's like a rapid She like, Yo, it's built. They don't build. But I'm talking about really just like connectingly. You know what. I like that dude's energy, or I like that dude stata and you stay in touch. I mean, look, even with Combat Jack show, you're thinking about it. Some
people we had on one time. You know what I'm saying, Like I still talk to it to this day, you know what I mean, Like it's like to have that relationship. You know, That's why I think people sometimes they're too worried about numbers. They want to tell stories that shouldn't be told. Even in an Italian community, guys like, Yo, you want to talk about the murder we did? What the fund? You do? You know what I'm saying. It's like it's like, you know, I don't know. I'll never
understand that. And I'll tell you one thing. People always say that you can smack someone on the internet gets sive million views, You're gonna help somebody get one million views. At the end of the day, how do you sleep at night? That's how I look at it. How do you sleep at night and straight up without even you know, let you you know you take the show more than you know and we conversate. But it's big en than podcasting. People want to build a store. You don't even understand
podcast Open up doors? Right, having a platform, open up doors. Having a platform travels you around the world. Having a platform gets you in contact with me. Right, having a platform gets me in contact with you. You know what I'm saying, Like it's like and I think that's the ultimate thing. You know, I'm not. I was never and I'm gonna say this, you know from my heart, I
was never in a number chasing game. Well you came forward to be you know before I my question I had because you don't took me to a whole different place. It should never be about numbers. It should never be about money. And I'm gonna I'm kicks you up on that because we all have to make a living, right, But you shouldn't be willing to run down the street naked for a few dollars. That's what I'm saying. Now,
you know what I want to just correctly it. Let's say let's not say it shouldn't be about about money because creators should always get money for what they do. And I'm a big supporter of creatives. Fuck a fucking podcast type of style. You know, I'll be around moving with fucking movie stars, different people. I see podcasts people like they're kind of like, you know, I'm not in any podcast. Be for understand, I'm living my life, you know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not trying to get numbers.
I'm not trying to get this guest first. I'm not trying to get this guest to say some ship that he don't want to say so I get more numbers. Like you know, you know how many times like people would would reach out over the years and say, like yo, could we get yeah because we don't wanna. Sometimes people say things and it's not you don't want to try to like got you? You know what I mean? Like
what are we doing? You know what I'm saying. And I think that building relationships is more powerful than building a one time viour video or a tribe is for you? And I think, you know, longevity is always to play. You know, we always talk about everybody. Look at the end of the day, you know, uh, I would always suggest creators to continue to create, but at what expense? You know what I'm saying? What defense like meaning like
you know you want to do what you love. I think you know you continue to find that and I tell people just like at the end of the day, and well, you know we you know, I don't know how old you are, but but I'm glad that you live that. Oh mantle man, I'm fifty. I'm fifty and proud though there we go. I don't want I want to say because I want to make seven. Now I want to say this. I tell my daughter. I tell
my daughter all the time. I might yo, I'm gonna do something for you, and that is give you a chance to figure out what you want to do in life or else you're gonna do what you have to do in life. You know what I'm saying. Like we didn't. I wasn't afforded that opportunity, you know what I mean, And neither I'm sure neither will you. So the point I'm making is now you have So I want to go back to what you're saying about like you should never be about everyone should have a chance to make money,
help each other out. Look, what I'm saying is a lot of people don't do that, and I get it, you know what I'm saying, But the podcast games should really just be about bringing people together, bringing brotherhood. I mean, listen, not many podcasts I got upther guests for you know what I'm saying. People ask me like, yo, what could you? Yeah, Like, I'm not. If I funk with a person, I want to try to help them elevate. Why because they were on the premium Peach Show and then they go, But
here is that gonna hurt me? Now I'm helping out my man who's an artist who I think should have more exposure or should be on this thing, or I like a show that I see is pushing and don't want to help out. I never, you know, I never. I've never been that way, you know, especially after all these years being behind the scenes to you know, networks and you know, putting things together and stuff like that.
It's it's just, you know, you have to think of it as like a whole you know what I'm saying that as a community, and I think, like, you know, that's the thing. You know that that that really, I would say, is like uplifting each other. You know what I mean. It's the same thing like the street in the sense of you know, look, I grew up in a neighborhood. Kids usually have sneakers. They wear them three time to throw them into garbage. I'm like, what the
fund you draw him in the garbage for. They're like, yo, I don't want to give me anybody. Nobody gave me any I'm like, yo, my man, listen to me. So changing that is what I would love to see more and more. Now, who could get the well, who could get the biggest guess is always fun. I remember one combat and all of us and the whole team, like I feel like we had our finger on the post, like we never told you who we were getting, and it was like, oh man, that's right on time, or
oh man, I haven't heard from him, oh man? And and and seeing that also you know, for drink Champs and rap Radar and and Joe. But I got NBA loved, like you know what I mean, Like I love seeing them get these big guests and getting notified and get and get um, you know, and and make a living for themselves right and change their life and change their kids life. Like that's powerful, you know, So sure. Yeah, and you know, let me leaning back on this. Man,
you came in the podcast game early. Yeah, I'm talking about me and I remember it was the time because we were like inspired by Loud Speaker Yep, yep. You know, me and my manage a rapper last moment. You know, I just don't manage him. He's like one of my best friends. He's like family, you know. So he has a very big person now, sort of like yourself, right, And I said, dude, you need to be doing a podcast. Man, you got an opinion on everything from the universe to politics,
you know, so you need to do this. And um, he said, Man, nobody goes sit around and listen to nobody talked for an hour. I said, dude, it's these cats out of New York. I was rocking. I've been rocking with you since you room Combat Jack Show resupes.
That was early. At that time, there weren't too many podcasts you could actually go and kind of everything you landed on was pretty good because listening to Compact Jack show laid me gonna go listen to this show that was on loud Speakers, this show and there was a common theme and I finally heard somebody that connected to me. It wasn't just a bunch of people and they're talking about stuff that didn't interest me. Stuff didn't interest me. But culturally, I said, man, you know what, they got
the culture right here. Man, they represent Hi pop culture, you know what I mean. And I thought it was cool that they had people from diverse backgrounds over there. Just wasn't a bunch of brothers talking withoutan And uh, I heard all these other things, and I said, if making y'all New York kids are already off the hook, you'all already telling like it is because we've lived in society right now, man, where people tell people what they
want to hear instead of telling the truth. Yeah, but you know, actually, you know, going back to rocking the boat, and uh, I will say this, going back to rocking the boat. It's a scary thing because I feel like, you know, I have a lot of friends who are very talented, but they don't rock the boat. And what I mean by that is like, you know, you get somebody that you do work with, I'm saying, and y'all don't talk about money, and they're like, well, I'm sure
we'll figure it out. And then you got a person like me, well, what's the figure out? Like why don't you talk about like some of the plans you have, or some of the rates you have, or some of the things you know, I don't want to like, you know, we'll go easy and sometimes people don't say nothing and stay cool. And then you get a guy like me like, yo, are we gonna talk about money? Oh? You're hungry for money?
And then it's like and then it don't work. And then the person who doesn't rock the boat is still moving along with this person. But what really no substance? And I sometimes for a while, we'll look at myself like, damn man, maybe I'm too aggressive, or maybe I'm too passionate or maybe But then I said to myself, yo, you know and and and that's the thing, like asked, like, I feel like if you're around the good circle of people, trusting other people's opinion, like of what they see, like,
oh you think I'm out of pocket? You know? Um? Because I'll be honest with you. In business, I feel like people will run over you. You know what I'm saying. Like, and if you're like a person who don't want to rock the boat, and you know, you're too scared to blow them out of the water, or too scared too uh you know, a short change yourself. As far as dealing with contracts and stuff like that, I feel like
you'll never you'll you'll you'll never make progress. You for sure wanting this business man, because I've been the music businessman for the last twenty five years and publishing music publishing and management. And if you don't open your mouth, man, I'm scared to rock the proverbial boat. You can be out your ass out man, I'll tell you a story because the ship is kind of crept in the podcast And I remember podcasting used to be a tight look community.
You never heard about dudes getting ads and running off with the money. You just never heard about all the fun ship. Right. So when we first got in the game, man, we had a pretty um we started making a little bit of noise, right, So we started getting different people outing at us, and um, we didn't have a bunch of podcast networks out here. Podcasting is very much an East Coast thing, you know what I mean. There were people producing podcasts out here, but not really in the
urban genre. You had guys had YouTube channels up for the hundred times you having the show on YouTube channel. If you don't have no audio, you ain't got a damn podcast. Yeah, I mean, let me just say this real quick. Don't lose your chain and thought. I remember years, for years we were on PNC Radio, so we were like an online show to combat Jack Show. And uh, I mean people saying, well, when you become a podcast,
and that's why it's kind of late. Like sometimes I have us that we're a podcast, like two thousand, twelve or thirteen. The reason why is because how do you make a podcast? Right? This is something that we were saying thirteen years ago. Just put it on iTunes. We were online show for all those years, you know what I'm saying, So we didn't even know, like so now you know it elevating. You know, I was talking about
this with someone the other day. You know, podcast plus all these like little set up shows that have chairs and bricks and Mike's and it looks like a nice thing. That's that's like the new podcast plus. But YouTube, you know everybody talks about YouTube. But man, I'll tell you man, I mean, I'm not giving all the secrets around anymore, but all the money in on YouTube and the brand we may like to be actually premium. We've done extremely well with audio. Yeah, most people love the way they look.
I deal with people. I deal with people, you know, in different networks. Off of them, shows do shows, produced, shows created shows. A lot of people, some of them. The audio be a nice bag, and people are like, I need fifty and fixed my teeth, and I'm like, it's not video, so audio you can make a nice bag. We can go to video in the future. But now it's just audio, you know, And people like, okay, so go make less money and and worry about you looking
good instead of you being good. You know. At the end of the day, funk A podcast suck anything. How do you make a living doing what you want? Right now? It's so easy to become popular, but broke right because people don't People don't know how to set up a system to make money right. And here's the biggest problem I think, and like I said, you know, is that it's not only within the podcast. It's people don't open their mind and make money because of their podcasts. And
that's like another thing, you know what I'm saying. I mean, don't get me wrong. You can make good money doing your podcast obviously is people know networks, etcetera, etcetera. But what I'm saying is it's not gonna happen to everybody, and there's other ways and avenues around it to get there, and people need that patience. I have people listen during the pandemic, even I had so many even now I have so many people call me, I want to start
a podcast, soever anybody. Two weeks later they're like, oh, we're not doing the numbers that this one's who the fuck you just started? And you know what, they gage those members from YouTube. Yeah, I think what it happened is Man and I had this before I got to Homeboys. I won't make their name. They're two pretty prominent, you know, rapidly, got a lot of history, especially on the West Coast. So they started podcast. Man, the episodes are doing better online.
They're performing better on YouTube than they are in the audio. And my suggestion to them was this for the first ten episodes, let's not do video. Let's just go in and perfect getting your podcast chops down. But no, they want to go out and spend all this money on this big studio man and and this and that, and they did, and they weren't getting the results that they wanted. They weren't happy because when I tell you the second episode, man, that we have we book any reads? You have any
reads for us? That we have any sponsorships? I said, dude, what am I going to go in and talk to a potential sponsor about? Or I have this great new show that's hosted by two rappers. And it's like, dude, yeah, so do with thout another? Motherfuckers? Move on there. No, it's like one thing I'm confused about and this is no shots, and I think people need to open their mind more. One thing I'm confused. I get people that have called me okay, I've been like, yo, Pete, I
want to start a podcast. Okay, I want to start a podcast like, you know, like really covering hip hop, like and like you know, covering like you know, like going behind the scenes of hip hop. Like I don't really see people doing that in my mind of my where have you been looking? Like? Here's the thing, Like, you know, if you're trying to get into a genre that has already saturated, do something different, but also put
your spin on it. You know what I'm saying. You can always stay in hip hop or whatever you love honey, cultural stuff, but put your spin on it. You know, we look we look too much to people's public highlight reel. And when try to emulate that ship like like, come on man, you know, and duplicate, replicate all things. I tell you, it's some funny ship. We when we first jumped off with the Gangster Chronicles, it was different because we have a lot of street cats, So I'm talking
about real brownie street cats. We may be talking to a had they just got a prison a week ago, you know. But it's not to glorify the life or anything like that. Is to give these keys out here a message to let them know the repercussions are real to anything that you do do. But I had a guy tell me one time, good friend of mine, he was on the show, and I was like, well man, what made you decide to go on in the podcasting? Well man, I just saw what y'all was doing and
just did the same thing. And like you said, damn. I remember at the time, man, especially me coming from the hip hop culture. Man and Biding wouldn't tolerate it. Now you would have a guy see guys with a bunch of beer bottles and ship in the table they call it. You might as well be drinking champion. I'm sure they influenced. They influenced the whole, a whole. You know a bunch of people as well, and you know
a lot of people. You know. That's the thing. Like you'd be surprised at how far your voice could travel, man, you know what I mean. It's like even when you talk about dudes coming home, Man, there's so much opportunity out there. Man, you know, listen, I'm home. I don't even know. Maybe eighteen years, nineteen years, I went to wait for a couple of years. I never went back,
you know what I mean. I've been I've been to many jails to speak to to really you know, first of all, anyone listened to this has been away or is in the street or whatever. Let me explain something to you. In this day and age, there's no reason to be doing anything illegal, no reason. And I'm gonna tell you why. There's so many opportunities to make money. The only opportunities that we weren't afforded when I was young. When I was young, I had a paper route and
I bed groceries and wall bombs. It was a grocery store straight up and down. You could have got a regular job. I was young at the time. If I wanted to get things nice, I have to sell drugs or do something illegal. Straight the funk up. Okay, that's what it what it was. Now, I'm not saying you had to I'm saying in order to achieve that at a young age, because the neighborhood showed me glittering gold at twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, so I was like, oh
my god, I want these things. Now that's a bad la I made. But the point I'm trying to make is in this day and age, these kids do not have to do that. You go to Target and sell the stuff on Amazon, you will get sneakers selling for two times the amount, even if you're with them. Okay, you can start a podcast, you could, you know, you could, you could do a YouTube show. You could. You know what I mean? You could. You can start a business,
you could, you know, you can start a product. There's so many yeah, yeah, yeah, there's so many things that could be done. And I and and and and here's the thing. I'm not just saying that ship it's real and you don't have to give you a life away you know, we come from a time where people but how won't you been away? Asks a skid bid? You know you did three years, I did twenty. Listen to me one hour of giving the system your time is not worth it. What's there food? And food is not
better than is outside. Woman ain't better. I don't see any you know what I'm saying. Now, you know, and this is one thing we always talked about. Now, when you came up in jail, you come, you come out, You come back out in the free world. Right, you don't feel out? A job application heads down there? Have you ever been arrested for a feeling? Yes, you mark that down. In some cases I had homeboys that wouldn't mark it down only because they knew later I get
me a check from here. You know, by the time they find out, I get it check. And sometimes they may not find though they may not check it. But more often than not, they come pull them off the line and say, hey, man, be sorry, I gotta let you go. You lack the application. You gotta felony. So you get a guy like that man. Then some cases they may have family of people that they're trying to contribute to a household they're trying to integrate themselves in society,
but they keep cats getting doors slammed in their face. Right, So this cat that can't come out and get a job, he's getting smacked around by the world. He's gonna go back to what he knows best. Absolutely absolutely gotta be able to pay. He has to eat. Listen. I came home. I came on with about thirty one dudes into the city, um, which we parole too. So I've seen these dudes every week I went to parole, and every week we lost somebody. I was in the elevator with cats. I was away
with it, like, Yo, I can't find a job. I'm going I'm I'm I'm going back to the street. We go sit in the pro office next to you know, they lock him up. I'm like, what the funk have we got? Dirty yard? Right? Well, he got arrested and didn't say nothing, right you know, or just gave up. Yo. Everyone that I went away with went back except for me. Right now. Yeah, that's a very big busting. But I also I'm not gonna sit here and act like I
didn't put in the work. What I mean by that is I bought like a hundred DVDs at that time, and I stayed home. Okay, curfew came nine o'clock, they came to my door. A lot of kids would they would leave, They get dressed to go outside. The pro office is waiting outside bomb. I didn't do that, you know what I'm saying. I had my patience and I stood my time. But I sit here and I say, like, I remember how tough it was, you know what I mean. Like I remember like filling out job application, you know
what I mean. I remember, like, you know, being turned down. And I remember, like literally my cousin. When I came home, I couldn't find a job. My cousin got me a job working carpet cleaning. I had the machine and like fucking moving, it's moving around. I don't even know what the funk I'm doing. I was ready to give up many times. But that was almost twenty years ago. I'll be in London next week, right in the show. Yeah it was right there, things a real man. The problem
with today, though, Pete, is people don't have patience. Everybody wants it now, and they feel like they're entitled to get it now. Because I'll see a lot of cats jump in the game. Man. And they may come from the music industry, right, Man, ain't enough When we gonna start getting paid? Man? When is this one? Is that nobody wants to put it in the work first. Everybody wants to get paid first for work that they haven't done yet. Sure, sure, sure it's tough. Man. Now let
me actually something Gangster chronicles, now, where is it? Using the shot just like remote all three? Like you know from the during in the pandemic. Man, we started doing some remote stuff. We actually have um, we actually have our own studio. I have a network myself on digital soapbox medium. Yeah, I see, I remember, I remember me telling me about it a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago. Man. And here we are now we got our own building and stuff. Mant people that actually,
you know, work for us, which is a blessing. You're able to help out some friends instead of giving them something that you say, Hey, man, that's your job. You need to art you this, you know. So it's a beautiful thing. Man. It took us a while, though, Man, took us a while. I tell people it takes time, right, it takes time. Man, It still takes time. I could say. Man, we've been doing this show. I think we've coming up on our fourth year UM in a few weeks. Right, congratulations,
thanks man. But when I tell you, the first six months of doing the show, we saw a YouTube money, but we didn't have no ad revenue because we've had people that kept telling us. You gotta remember at that time, Pete, they were telling people that black people won't listen to podcasts, the standing people won't listen to pod cast the exactly like we just all a monolift, you know what I mean, We just all do the same stuff and just walk straight aga. But as our numbers estivated, because they kept
moving the goal post back on us. You know, they would say, well, man, you know at that time, you can get ten to fifteen thousand. It was a week and then it was pretty good. You know. I was like, okay, this is good. That was back then, and they would say, well, no, you need to be at twenty. You know, we get then we started getting the thirties. Then it count. You know, like you said, I started calling they're bullshit because we
were using the um CBS building at the time. We just played out in I think it's intercom now, right. We were using those that thing. They gave us a situation where you could record and we're gonna sell ads
for you. But I noticed that every time we got the sheet that kind of show how everybody was performing on intercom, I would always see us ahead of certain people, but these people below us were getting reads and they were always like, oh, you're an established show where they're a radio holes and this and that, And I started calling bullshit because the girl eventually told me, well, I don't think people are going to buy into a show
called Against the Chronicles. I said, oh, they won't, but they were buying to a show girls would love to ecock you know what. You know they're buying that, but they won't. I was gonna tell you, man, because me and you got a mutual um. I won't say enemy man. We both got a cat oh with some bread man um. And that's what I was going into before the game got sucked up. So I had these cats hit me up.
Man from a company called him a layer, when that was the most professional fucking setup of heels like I was working on. Now. I know how you know, Chris, I remember I was, I was, I was hot, you know Christman before that. But but I remember I remember he brought me the deal and I was hot. Oh man, he had me hot because just imagine I have a network of shows, right, so when they hit me up, man,
they hit me up about the games, the chronicles. But I always believe in presenting the old, like, hey, these people may be willing to do this. I got five other podcasts too, you know. So I walk into this setup and I'm gonna tell you, initially it was the beautiful, most beautiful ship ever. Bro. So I'm driving up an on Beverly Hills, right, and I put up to the crib and I said, but it's not a studio, you know, this is the house. So I walk in. Man, they
got people in there working and stuff, man. And it's like, I'm like, okay, we made it, man. And so they had me come in and sit on. You want something to drink? And I'm like, they got a maid and their man. They bring you a plate of food. I'm like, oh my god, man, we've made me and my boys slapped hands man like this. It was like, it's only craging. So it did started off good for the first two
months because him Alaya was a professional organization. But the other motherfucker I won't mention his name because I don't do the online cat fight. He was a piece of ship, but he was running everything. So he was the nicest guy in the world at first, right, but he was working for somebody else. So we had an event there one night. Man, the things started went around the kind of party. Hey, they're changing the name of the company to Notorious, and it's like Notorious. Um. Then my phone
goes off. I get an email is from the guy from Japan. He's telling us we fired Peter Vincer. So anybody that's you know, signed, you know, had the deal, contact us and we get you set up with alternative recording solutions until we figure out the situation. Because you have to remember he was the president of the company, right, He was the president of the company. Um, he's got he hired to facilitate everything and opened up everything in America. So the house was in his name, all the hundreds
of thousands and they spent on equipment was in his name. Right, So he pretty much just hijacked the whole motherfucking company. So I'm like, man, you know what. He talks to me about it that next Monday, and I'm like, dude, this is not what I signed up before. What's going to change? And then I started knowing, noticing the people that they had to the quality of people. The quality people started walking out the door. Now there were a lot of good quality people left. But the reason why
I came. They had this guy. There was none booking a lot of stuff. They had this person there was a hell of a publicist. And I knew these people, right, I knew their reputations. So I was like, dog, it seemed like your team walking out the door. Now, to keep in mind, there were some very great people, people I still deal with to this day. They were still there. So we're booking reads, right, We stayed booking reads. And so when you have people that trust you and that
that means me. They didn't sign a deal with them, They signed a deal with me. So I'm responsible for everything ultimately. So people are booking stuff and they come and ask me, and they're nice about it. To cool, They're like, still, you know, man, I know this. It's been like forty five days on this one. I did thirty days, you know, forty five days, going supposed to get paid them thirty you know. And so I went to Peter and I was like, dude, what's happening with
the prayer? Oh, man, we don't have an E I N number in the bankers that you know they want. I said, dude, while been waiting on the E I A N number I called, the people didn't custom out, man, I said, man, come on and cut the bullshit. Man, you're not talking to boot with the food. I said, it take two minutes to get the E I in. Bro, I can do it for you right now. If it's not, if it's not five o'clock, it I can get it
for you right now. So he kind of looked at me and said, man, listen, I have that money here. I'm gonna meet you tomorrow. I'm gonna give you time to get up and go to the bank and get your stuff together. I'll be here at one o'clock. I need the money for this show, that show on this show, because I've got people calling me and and I can't get mad about that because people they've done the work,
and they had families work. They don't know that. So keep in mind with a lot of those deals, I paid for them myself because I was just like, you know what, I know you need the money for whatever boom, here you go. That's my job to go collect. So I go up there the next day. Man, when I tell you he's in there with his shirt off, you know, smoking weed. And I'm like, so it's turned from a professional space and now you look like a frat house. You got dudes jumping off the roof into the pool
and ship man, and I'll bring it through. That's a promise. The past three and one day to record, I'm like, man, what the hell that is going on? And freaking the marijuana? It's all listen, I don't got a problem, but nobody's get down kneels. But that should be. We're in a professional environment. You can't walk through the heart building just you know, blowing the joint, you know what I mean, blowing a blunt. So I go in there man, and um, I say, you know, registrate me out. Oh man, you
know what I was thinking? This motherfucker pull like two pounds of weed from U under the table, like man, you know, you know, shoot this to the homies dead Like I'm like, man, what the funk? First of all, that's the most disrespectful thing ever. You think is we some brothers? You just give us some weed and we go going about about our business, just go to back and starts stuff like, Man, come on, man, I can't take no bills with that. Man. So it started getting
a little real. I won't go into what happened next, man, But he didn't give a fuck man because he was too far gone. And we've seen the um evolution of the game for the better in certain ways. Man, Brothers like you or all, they're one of amazing things. Man, you went from being a feeling up road feeling jumping on the podcast. No, how did you make that transition? What makes you just you know? How did you want up on a podcast? Combat Jack? Sure? You mean the
good brother? Dallas penn Um. About two thousand and ten, I had a site I launched called Sneaker two, and I had it up for like four or five years. It was a community of like sneaker lovers, and you know it was it was well like if you know you you knew about it back then, you talked to it. It was just like a site where you could view videos about different people and different sneakers and different things.
I wanted to make something because YouTube you put a black cat Jordan three, you're gonna get a black cat, you know what I mean. So I wanted to like kind of you know, do that anyway Dallas is being a sneaker lover and someone who was a fan of of creating it. You know, it kind of was like, YO, come up here and talk about you know, talk about what you just launched. And I went on there. You know I've said this before publicly, but I went on there, you know, and I never left, you know what I mean?
And um, you know, we became you know me and that was already cool and um, you know me and combat we started till like you know, he was like, yo, come back next week. I was, I had snacks. I was like, you know, this ship was like uh an after school program to me, you know what I mean, Like it was Joe, you know, I was at middle aged man, you know who feel like I found like a brotherhood. Um, like a community of people who love hip hop, who who are parents, who who had trials
and tribulations. Uh. Some people were better than others. Uh, some people were in better shape than others. But it was a bond and I felt that from day one.
And I would come you know, comment was they come back next week, you know, And I would just come and bring a six pack of beer or chips and you know whatever, like like you know, I kind of just mingle and then hang out like yo, this is and then and then eventually, you know, I made my way onto the mic and you know it was history since then and and you know, just to be part of that spaceship. Um for me to have a hand or to have a voice and something that listen to me.
Let me tell you, man, wherever I go, people will stop me or say something to me or want to meet up with me if they see something that I'm out there on a social if I'm writing like yo, I'm in Chicago with him wherever I go. I mean this, over the years, it's crazy of how much kind of love that is for combat out there, you know, um, and what and and and and what transpired and what influenced different people. Um, so it's special to see and
especial you know. Well you know, I cry, man because the thing about podcasts, and I tell people all of you with special because two podcasts and I felt like I knew you guys. Yeah you know what I mean. I feel like when Jack Dad, even though I didn't know him from Adam, you know what, and that, and I'm amazing sometimes that me and Chris Morrow are actually friends. He's a mentor to men. He's been a mentor and
a good friend for the past three years. You know. Um, I cried because it was kind of like, damn, man, come back Jack. You know. I used to get these are birds and he used to look forward to it, you know. And then you started seeing change, like loud speakers was the first for everything, especially in urban space. I'll tell people, if you say otherwise, you're friend, use day flowers. Give them their roses right now. And then they came with tax season. Now, when tax season came,
I knew. I said, Man, if this dude can stay out of trouble man, because you just tell you know what I mean, you can just kind of tell listen to him iself. Oh man, this brother is a real one. You know. He's really seemed like he with the ship. Right. So I saw people like this and I said, man, it's not the traditional They didn't have traditional podcast, so so all the shows were new and unique, and I
thought it was dope as helle. So you transition from there, man started to freeing them peace show man, Um and when you did. Of course, I started rocking with you too, said okay, this is this is dope. So you started your own thing, man, how long did it take you, man to really start putting the in the game of what you started eating? Well, you know, that's a great question. I've been I've been blessed. You know, I've been blessed, you know, through the years of Combat Jack. Sure, I
have a built in audience. Um, So I hit the ground running, you know what I mean, And and and I just took a lot of what me and Combat wanted to do and and put it today. I was telling this to Funny Funny talk about Chris. I was telling this to Chris yesterday. You know. Um, when I moved on and started my own show, I just wanted
to continue doing what I love, you know. Um, you know, and I'm glad because when you look back at it, it's like Combat gave me a chance, even unbeknownst to him, to kind of set my shop up, you know what I mean, to kind of spread my wings right, and you know, I want to diversify and be honest, it was a lot of a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure on me because you know, a lot of people would say, yo, premium Pete. You know, keep in mind, back down on Combat J actually was a little bit
more wilder. I'm not like that anymore, just because I just don't, you know, I just don't like to. I like to be careful of what I say, and I like to be mindful of what I say. And also, you know, look, I have a lot of great sponsors, and and and and you have to be represented well, right, you know what I mean. I'm not saying they I'm not saying they control me. But what I'm saying is I'm not out here trying to make them look bad
for no reason, right reviews or for anything. Um because again, it is a business, right, and you build it to be a business. But but you know, I wanted to. I wanted to, you know, I hit the groundward. I just wanted to diversify. And you know, sometimes, you know, not saying overall, but I've heard people say, oh, premium Pete. You know, he said a couple of words on Combat Jack. Some days he would say a lot something. I said that because I didn't have to just like, yo, what's up,
it's premium Pete. I'm here. No, I was for the betterment of the Combat Jack Show. That's why that show did good, because people took a bullet for the Combat Jack Show. It wasn't like, Yo, I'm premium pete. Yo I'm It's like, yo, we're here for the Combat Jack Show three four in the morning with Chuck d You know what I'm saying. Driving everybody home, I lived ninety two miles from the studio. I drove everybody home and then drove home. I didn't get money. I didn't get
gas money. You know what I'm saying. Man. You know, if people don't know how much you sacrifice. I mean, I'm sitting on the Combat Jack Show like a couple of hundred hours in my bank account, you know what I mean. Just just he's always been a friend, he's my co host. He's coming in with a helicopter, you know what I mean. It's like like I'm ready to get a fucking overdraft feet. You know what I'm saying.
You know, I'm working a regular job at the time to at night, trying to maintain trying to figure it out. I tell people all the time, I was working a bread route. I'm a big daddy came. Big Daddy came like Yo, take my number, you know, blah blah blah. We would cook it up. You know, I like the chef. And now later dudes like yo, get your bread and you gotta get back. You gotta get out of it. Like where the funk? I was just with Big Daddy Kane.
What are you talking about? People like so you understand, meaning the thought process of having to have that belief. And let me tell you something. You have a day job. Don't never be a change because the day job feels the dream job, you know what I mean. And and and and and and until you could let loose you. Let that funds you. You know what I'm saying. Let that funds you, so you could. But the thing is, people gotta put the work in on the side. You know a lot of people work at eight to four.
They tied. Okay, I'm tired. I'm still tired. But what I'm saying is it it takes time and you have to be willing to do that. And I think throughout the show, you know, I was able to, like I said,
you know, you say a couple of words. I was able to have to me some formidable, beautiful interviews with some people and really show that like, all right, this kid it's talented, right, you know what I mean, Like this kid can form some I'm look, you don't have to like everything I do, or that people don't have to like everything you do. Right, You're not denied that you're building a network, that you're putting people on, right, that you're trying to uh employ you, yourself, your family,
your friends, people that you know. You know what I'm saying, Like, you can't deny those things. It's a process and people should be a sponge and support that and get involved in that instead of hate, you know what I mean? Man, And I tell people all the time. Man, We've had a lot of people, some of our guys man have made the journey with us from the beginning. Man, shout out to my homeboys and twins Man that connected experience in instern Michigan. Oh yeah, I know I know them. Yeah,
they brought me out many years ago. Uh yeah they're good. Yeah, I'm spoke to me a while. But God bless him man and all the good brothers. Man. They've been done with Digital soapbox Man for the lab. They've been done with us for the whole ride. Man, love those guys, Man,
but people don't understand, man. Things don't happen overnight. Man, So you take the opportunity man that you were to see there was initially planned man with the combat jack show man, and you've been able to quantify that man and doing several different things, and that's what people understand.
I even tell some of my guys because sometimes you do have those times the word there are no ad reads jumping off, and you know, you just may just beginning YouTube money and you got people like, oh, man, this and that, and I'm like, what do you really only do the show for an hour a week. You don't really help with the planning of the research. You don't have to worry about, you know, putting it together where we're gonna do the show at So you should
have you some other hustles going on. And that's what I tell people. If you're you're a blessed. I had to tell a couple of guys that because people get kind of complacent. Sometimes I told you got last week because it listen, man, you made eighty five thousand dollars last year. You know you didn't get rich, but you made eighty five thousand dollars for talking ship all every week,
and you're sitting up here complaining about more money. I said, man, the average American now to the day, man is making thirty thousand dollars a year. They gotta worry about their rent. They gotta take care of their kids. Man. They may have a leaky false with their cars off, neither might have went out, and they gotta figure it out. But these people get up every morning and go make it happen,
sometimes twice a day. I know, I got a whole bunch of home to go to one job, man, and as soon as they get off, they go home, eat, taking nap for a couple of hours, and they're off to the other one. And it's become a routine for them because they have to. They have responsibilities. Because see, I'm gonna tell you, the bills don't stop coming just because this person didn't pay you. That person, it's gonna keep coming. That little kid he can, he still needs
to eat, he or she still needs to eat. And I get a lot of brothers. Man. One thing that you say, I think it's real dope. Man. That really just caught my attention. Man, I kind of stow your mantra. I think everybody else ship is good. Presidents over presents, prisons over presents. Man um, I got a lot of homies man that are scared. You know, they take care of their kids, man, they maans, you know, they they paid the child support. Always in the key of clothes
and stuff like that. I'm like, dude, why don't you go see your son? Man? Well, man, I don't got this and that. Man, I want to be able to do this. I say, do that kid. Don't give a funk about you taking, you know, coming over their being and gifts all the time. They want to go sit with it. They want to go throw the ball around with their dad. Sure, no, no, my bad. But I want to say, you know when you when you when people when you think about having children and and and
being there for the kids. Man, you know, look, at the end of the day, you sat down with a lot of people. I sat down with a lot of people. You here, people who didn't have fathers. We're in guid as well. Women who didn't have a father in their life. You know how it affected them. You know, Look, I sat down, I've done I don't even know how many interviews out right, you know what I mean. And I'm saying I hear men talk all the time but how not having a father figure in their life and how
much it affected them. So I'm like, yo, you know, we have to you know. And when I was away, that's when I came up with presidents of the presidence. You know, you get away if you get locked if you get if you know, if you get locked up, it's like, you know, possession or intent. You got to kind of go to asack class when you're away, or or or a council. And the council was a real
cool lady. And you know, everybody's in the class talking about, well, I got knocked with two Mercedes three range rove is you know forty grand? Yo? You got a cigarette. I'm like, you know, my man, you got locked up with all this stuff. You're talking all the stuff. You don't got no commissary money, you don't got nothing like we don't we don't know. You know. It's like we don't need to be doing all this. So people always brag and jail you know what I mean, Oh I got this.
I got that. I'm not saying people don't, but a lot of people it just becomes like, you know, my kids got this, My kids got that my kids got this, and I was like, yeah, but they don't got you. Yeah, and and people don't realize even like I always say this when when when in another version where it pushed it even further for me is when we had a little boozy on and he was talking about my kids had iPads and and they had this, they had I found, they had everything. And I was like, yeah, I said
the same thing. I was like, yeah, but view and he looked at it like if you haven't. I don't even know if the episode is still out there, but I'm sure it is, you know. Um. But he was like you right, and and and and look, you know, you could have presents with presents, meaning if you body could a football, you've got to throw it around with each other. But you're the greatest gift you ever give you a kid is your time. You know. Look, I bought my daughter a thousand, a thousand Bobby dolls. You
don't even remember them. I don't remember a thousand. Oh I remember you got the time that we spent together and did this, this and this and this together and ritual as we created you know. Look, I'm you know, I always look at the word fatherhood as a whole. Even though I know I'm good, it's we still got a lot of work to do, right meaning as a whole, to help uplift brothers to be there and also to help woman and men realize if y'all don't get along, like just put that to the side so you could
be there for the kid. You know, if you're a man and y'all separating, things are over. Stop worrying about who she fucking you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you know, you know what I mean. I want to give a quick example and then you can take it wherever you want to wind this down, whatever it is. My ex wife, well my wife at the time, you know, because I got my daughter is gonna be twenty three, is crazy.
I've been separated and divorce since she was two. So we like three weeks into our divorce and she hits me up. She was honest, I'll give it a credit. And she was like, it's like a Tuesday night at like six o'clock. She's like, hey, Pete, am I Yeah. She's like, I'm going out on a date tonight. Could you watch her? Could you watch our kids? And I'm like, you're going out on a date. And you want to have sex and ship like that? You want me to watch our kids bang on? Not thirty seconds later? I
called her back because they hit me. I'm like, my daughter suffers, who she's messing with. She's not doing it there, She's not a bad woman. We don't We ain't together no more. Yeah, And so I called the right back. Was like, yo, my bad. I came got it for a couple of hours. We went out for pizza when the ice season and and that's where I started to even learn more and more presents over president. I'll give it to my brothers right now. What I mean by
that is you get your kids on the weekend? Cool? How about Tuesday for a quick slice of pizza? Just a quick slice, yo, you know what you're doing. Ye'll be right there, precise bring him back home. How about Thursday for a little ice cream? You know what I'm saying a little thirty minute thing. But I will say to my brothers too, and I say this to a woman too, when you get separated, when you have kids,
you focus on them. You focus on the job, you focus on your marriage, you focus on your bills, and something you always forget about. And as you Okay, a lot of brothers do that too, A lot of dudes do, and a lot of women, unfortunately, are suffered by men who are not really there for them to be everything they could be. M hm so. So the point I'm trying to make is, you know, I'm not knocking dudes. I have, like some duders do. I see my kids
every other month. Everyone, I'm like every other month. Like I can't imagine that, you know what I mean? Like, like, you know, I want to go get bird food. The other day, it's like five minutes from my sons. I said. I called him. I said, I'm gonna drop buy you one thing from Dunk of Donuts. Yeah, one, because he likes him. I got him some donuts. I dropped a game and kissing, hugging and kept him moving. I just can't but push it, man, But those are the times. Man.
If these kids remember, you know, before we before we get on Big Dog, that we got ten minutes left. Man, I wanted to ask you a question, man, have you ever thought about going in the comedy? You know, it's funny. It's funny you say that, because um it's funny you say that. I always wanted to do stand up comedy. I know how to tell stories, I know punch lines. I love I love I love comedy, and I don't even I try to put it in some of my life, you know what I mean? Um, what I did do was, uh,
I did it one time. I did it and I left it meaning uh Cipher Sounds had that uh UCB theater where he did the comedy. I forgot what it was called. Uh God, why am I having a blank? But he did this comedy thing where they would do with reenacting. I don't know if you ever seen it what he did. For years he was doing it, and he invited me on there one day. So I went up there and told stories like a comedian and and uh it was beautiful. Man. I had the whole crowd
going crazy. And I'll be honest with you, at that time, I was doing like nine things because only three work. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't want to do another fucking tent thing that you know. And don't get me wrong, Once you build up your name like you know still you know, he's been in the music, he's been here, he's been here. Now you're building up the podcast network. He build this sort of point. I'm trying
to make it. You have you know, some sort of like you know, like we have some sort of following that could like yo, still we're doing comedy that come check out your boy. But what I'm saying it's another process. It's another I go. I've been involved in so many beginning things it gets tiring, Like beginning to sneak is people like collecting, why you buy two pads for you know? Now look at it right? You know what I'm saying. Podcasting I swear to god, I've been a lunch with Combat.
I tell the story all the time. It went around the room. I'm a CEO of this, I'm a CFO. What do you guys do? He's like, oh, what podcast is the way? That's cute? You know what I mean. Meanwhile, I told Combat like, go, no, you're a lawyer. Fuck me. You should have been like, oh, I'm a lawyer because people judge, people try to But what do you do? What do you do? What do you do? Oh? Pocket watching? Man?
Pocket watching all time? But what I'm saying is when you're in the early stages of things and then not meaning only helping pioneer or push it, but then at early stages of you and something that's been around. It's also a big job. So what I'm saying to answer your question is I love comedy. Um. I I don't know if I have the time to do full stand up at my time in life right now, but I will do things that, uh, you know, I will tackle
things that. I know. It sounds weird to say this, but as you get older, I guess I'm trying to say I'm crossing things off. You know what I'm saying, I will try to do it because I love making people laugh, like I love. As much as people sometimes will drain you and people will let you down, I love helping people and I love being there for people. Um, because I didn't have a lot of people were there for me, and then when I was in my job times I did so so I want to be there
for other people. And I feel like, uh, if you can make people laugh, if you can make people money, um, you know, it's a beautiful thing. Because one thing about podcast, and again I'm gonna apologize to you because I was late this morning. I'm using I'm usually the one waiting around on people, man, but you know that's prime man. I was editing the fort. This morning, I said, man, you know, like semp up man abro seventh thirty minute. So I woke up, you know, wake up. I woke
up this morning. Man. I went into the shower and stuff. I said, yeah, I said, not got time, and I laid the marvel clown. I was up and take a look net next thing, you know, you call it man, And now I just want to know and I tell you. And that's the thing too. You know what I learned to most people and you can't say this not meaning, you can't say this meaning like it's not a way to live, like most people won't don't go to extra mile. And and even in this day and age like that,
people don't know how to tuck their ego. You know, people feel like they accomplished. I'm here to tell you if you I don't give a funk. If you made a million dollars, still tucking make five million, you know what I mean? Yea yeah. And also but also tuck to ego not meaning you know, I'm speaking in general. So what I mean by that is I could have been like I could have sent you an email and like yo, I was there for ten minutes let's try it.
You know, let's try another time. But that's why I called you, you know what I mean, because like I committed to it and I want to you know what I'm saying, like that that's my style and I appreciate that.
I appreciate that. But what I was gonna say, Man, you know, we deal with a multitude of different personalities, right, some of the people, some of these guys and some of the coolest individuals I've ever met, become you know, I can say, man, through podcasting, I've met Short numerous times through the years, but now you know, interview with him, we actually wanted to become a friends. So you know, I'm like, Man, I remember I said be in high school bumping too Short, you know, So now he's a
friend of mine. Man, So you run into a multitude of the different personalities. You're a guy who has a big personality, right, Have you ever classed with men of your guests before? Nah? You know it's a great question. But but but no, you know you know why because I understand the job, you know what I mean, And and I'm not afraid. You know, look, somebody like Bumbat Okay, one of the nicest Um, chameleon, UM, heartfelt, genuine um. People I've ever known in my life. Um, you know,
like I know my position in certain places. You know what I'm saying, Like like no matter who what I think I've done in life, like you know, like I'm not afraid to you know, there's times where I'll be around and somebody by premium pete, I'll be a bunder
like yo, let me take a picture with you. Sometimes I'll step back they're taking a picture with Like, I know your position, right, you know what I'm saying, Like I don't ever you know, I have a big personality, but but I want you know I'm I'm a team I'm a team player. You know what I'm saying, like you And that's what it's all about the team. That's why I often say, like when I talk about digital soapbox, Man, we were doing a lot of great things. Man. We
launched the TV network. Man that launches this marks Man. So it's a lot of our communities that have just through the different people that I meant that and partnerships I've made. You know, a guy hs me a baby man. I want to expand on our partnership. You know, I want to buy Temperaton the company. You know, I want to help you out. And this is a guy that's you know, he's doing pretty well for himself. But those opportunities came through hard work and came to sacrifice, that
came through tooking your ego in the back pocket. Sometimes because one of the guys that has helped me the most of my career. When I first met him, I thought he was the biggest asshole, but I didn't say anything because because he's just a very direct person. So now I don't want to mess with nobody. I don't want nobody in my circle Pete that's scared to check me almost some bullshit. I see you guys are gonna say, still know you funked up? Man, you shouldn't have did
that ship. Yeah, I mean you need someone to tell you if you have a bugget hanging from your noes. Yeah, for sure, you know before you step out. And I think that's the type of friends that I surrounded myself with, you know what I mean. And I'll tell you when you say, like you know short and everything, that's a beautiful thing. You know, I look at it like that's why you know. One thing I will say to not only you on this interview, to people who are listening
to whenever they listen. You know, keep the water running. What I mean by when I say keep the water running. These things happen because you're keeping these things happening. You know what I mean. Things happen because one thing opens up another thing. You know, like even when you think about you know, I'll share this with you real quick. You know, armand the same thing. Legendary actor. You know what I mean. I had him on show. Now, me and him, we day to day. You know what I'm saying,
Like you know I would. I was at his house for like three months, you know what I'm saying, working on a project with him. I just had him as a guest on my show. You know what I'm saying, so so so to the point I'm trying to make is build those bricks, have patience, you know what I'm saying, do right business by people, you know, and unfortunately not
everybody is gonna come along. Man. Something that really hurts me in my old age, where it's like, you know, you picture of life is a bus and people get off on certain stops and sometimes like damn, man, I wish they were still on the bus. But it don't work like that sometimes. Then I'm gonna tell you, Pete, that's been my biggest kind of achilles because you know, when you run a network, you're always looking at numbers. Everything is numbers. The thing about numbers, they're not based
on the motion. They're based on purely fact and that's based on some subjective ship. But they're based on factors right there. Hey man, you did thirty thousand downloads in the last episode. That's a good job. You know, we go kick that up something. But one of the hardest decisions to make, man, is letting people go. Sometimes you have to not only release people from a business situation
if they're not performing to expectations. Sometimes you have to release certain elements of your life, certain people that just aren't good for you. I have people that I love, Pete, but they just don't. We can't co excite the same space now because the they're running around, they got dope in the trunk, they got hammers up under the seat. I can't get in the car with you, bro, I
can't have you come. You can't come up with my house, bro, because I don't know who's sitting on you right now that might be looking at you and then not connecting me with your bullshit. I don't know if you've got the boys watching you right now now that you know what I'm saying, you just don't know. So you have to really, man, releasing someone both in business and in your personal life is the hardest ship ever. Because I'm not gonna lie. I love everybody on our network, dude,
there they we become like a family. So sometimes when someone in the family is not performing to expectation, you have to look and say, man, do I keep making the investment and this guy whether it's you know, five thousand dollars a year, whether it's you know, a couple hundred dollars a year. So you have to make decisions. Man, Now you've got a lot of ship going on. Man, where can people catch up with you at well? I mean you know, on social media always at premium Pete
or premium Peache show. I also do this new uh like a year already, I've been doing it. So now I have like to two things with under the Umbrella or premium Pea shows Life gems and those are like small bite size mentorship episodes Like I have titles like overcoming doubt, lessons into blessings, lean into fear, uh, never stopped believing in you, you know what I mean. And
it's literally like, you know, twenty I go. I put this out during the pandemic because I don't like doing uh interviews remote because I can't connect with the person fully, you know what I'm saying. Like it's tough for me. So I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do these audio episodes and I'll tell you, man, people all over the world, and it makes me so proud because again, sometimes we do this ship we make money, it gets views or whatever.
Some of the should we really love and some of the really helps people, you know what I mean, become popular. But what are you really resonating? You know what I mean? Because you never know who you were in bed? Yeah, you literally never know. Man. I'm gonna tell you before we jump off. Man, I had um you know, if you were a listener, send me eatmail one day and he was telling us a man like, you know, I was really thinking about committing suicide. You know, it's snat.
So I called the guy. I said, hey, man, what's your phone number? So we got the building and talking. Man, you know, parole fella. Um been on his job, new job for two years. Man, you know, I gotta situation, you know, improve this situation. Man, crib no. Man, his girl was living with him and he's taking care of his kids. He had lost his job. Man then um, you know, just through a series of miss unfortunate events. Man, his life is now in shambles. Oh he's you know
built episode. He's thinking about going back to the streets. And he's like, man, before I go back to prison, I'd rather be dead. I had this insurance problty. I said, first of all, brother, you know you jump off of the bridge. Your family not gonna get that money, so you're not gonna helping that way, and then you're gonna be gone. So they you know, they have not now not only are they financially burdened, missing presence and um. So I talked this dude and build with him. Man
and um. I remember I had a free promo code man from Better Help, you know, from the you know, we got a sponsorp with them. So I was really able, like, man, here, you know what, Man, you need to talk to someone. I'm not really qualified, but I'm here to tell you, bro, we need you here and he's checked in with me Man a couple of times Man over the last few years, and it's just like I think it's dope, and it's made me understand what our ultimate purpose. He is. Man.
We're here to be an inspiration of us. Man. And I tell people all the time, Man, and this planet, Man, all of the best people are people of service to have you ever noticed some of the greatest people you've met, they give a lot of themselves Man, whether financially or that personal time with their resources. So I've decided, Man, this planet, Man on my path, I want to help other people. Absolutely, I love it. How about this, I'm gonna say, you have my number, you have my email,
you have my info. Let's get together and figure away how to help more people. I want to leave your show on this note. Though. Let me tell you, Man, no matter what you're saying is special. I've had a lot of people who have done that with um in this day and age, the way we grew up, the way where you are where we are today. I'm gonna leave y'all with this. No matter what you've been through, anything is possible, you know what I mean? Like straight
the funk up I'm not sitting here. I'm out of preacher, I'm not nothing. Okay, if you never stopped believing, and what the funk you wanna do? If you never stop believing in you, even through those dark days, and they're gonna come. Those dark days are gonna come, and you're gonna feel worthless or maybe you feel depressed. But what I'm saying is this tough days, but you get through them.
You surround yourself with the energy you want. You know what I'm saying, You surround and if you have a circle that is not, you start to you know, you don't have to announce all this. You just start, you know, getting putting the places that you want, you know what I'm saying. So you know life, life will come and i'd say I'm out here to tell you they'll be bumps. And you know you noticed we all went through this ship.
But what I'm saying is net like like today, and you know, I feel like the way I grew up. I was told if you want to cry, I'll give you something a cry about. I'm here to tell you let that weight off of your shoulders. You know what I'm saying. Talk to somebody, Find somebody and then also let other people like yourself and all this be an inspiration to people. You know. One thing I will say
I told my father one time. I remember somebody in my family had thrown a wedding and somebody in the family, like friends of the family, wind up picking that same place because they felt it was so beautiful to have a fucking wedding, and that person who had the went in there before. I felt like, man, fuck them people, they copied us. No, why would you be mad at somebody who was inspired by you? Right at the point making it, don't shoot on people because they they inspired
by you. Like, if you're not here to inspire people, then just moving your bubble. But what I'm saying is like like, like, that's not who That's not who I want to be. I'm not somebody who wants to be I hated selfish. I want to I want to help uplift and inspire people. But unfortunately still I'm gonna tell you this, what we said is not everybody could go. Now everybody can go. Man, you gotta lit some people up the bus. Man, Man, I truly appreciate you coming on. Man,
I know what you're moving around. You probably on the coast a lot. Yeah, I'm on the East coast. I'm out on the West coast a lot. But but but you know, ship man, I'm just trying to spend more days international. As a Brooklyn kid, I'm still so humble to understand, like you know, like I was telling you, like you know, to be able to walk around the streets in London like when I was growing up in Brooklyn.
I'm listing the kids on my block like they did. God, they never been off the block, by the way, you know what I mean, I get it. But what I'm saying, it's like to be able to experience that. So anyway, listen, I will say peace and blessings, thanks for having me on, you know, and and and like I said, this is a good pow wow of life man, and and and just advice you know for sure, Man, I appreciate you. Man. Then we have it, guys, Premium Pete. We're tuning in
with you next week piece piece. Man, I appreciate you, big dog. Likewise,
