Material with an aggravated battery with a handgun and stuff in the league like being redeleated. I think cetimony brod. There's the lawn from the North senge of Gangster chronic which so S McDonald, j and Alex lons only Digital Soup B Smith. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening from wherever you're listening from. This is another episode of the Gangster Chronicles episode and you're listening to Alex Alonso
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Get there early because l A traffic will be crazy that day. We'll be starting at seven, so get on the road a little early and tickets available at the Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com. So visit that website, the Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com to get your get your tickets for our very first live events. And you can find James McDonald on Facebook. He has a red Harley in his profile because there are a lot of James McDonald's on Facebook, but as soon as you see that
red Harley, you found James McDonald. He's also on Instagram at B I, G G J thirties six thirty six. He has those amazing t shirts still available. Hit him up nine on nine eight hundred sixty four sixty four and you'll have your six. I'm so sorry I need to get glasses because I do have six zero four. That's nine on nine eight hundred sixty zero four. You
can find Reggie right on Bomb First. He does that show every Tuesday night at seven thirty pm West Coast Time, but he also been giving you guys some treats these last couple of weeks. In addition to his Tuesday night show. You can also find him on Facebook and Instagram at Reggie dot Right dot Jr. You can find me. I just go to visit Street Gangs dot Com click contact and all my links are there. But I'm at alex Alonzo one zero one on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. And
Spider Looke has his black Box show on YouTube. How did they find you? There? By? The Loke most East is the name of the channel. Okay, And before we start the show, James has a couple of things on his mind, and I'm gonna turn it over to James McDonald. Hey, hey, hey, everybody out there. First off, I wanna speak on my uncle. My uncle is in the hospital. He has cancer and I'm just asking everybody to pray for him. He's doing all right right now, he's still in the hospital, but
I just I'm asking for everybody to pray. Second of all, I have my nephew here. I have a bunch of his son. He had the pleasure of meeting him him coming into our life last year and he has been a blessing. So you know, he's out and he's doing music. I'm gonna let him explain himself to y'all right now, So he called himself Ace. We're gonna let y'all talk
to Ace. Hold on tell us a little bit about yourself. Basically, you know one of the ras in l A. When I went to school play football Colorado State and know all that graduated, came back home. My people just met my dad's siute of the family last year. It was a blessing. You know. I got into music. I'm trying to pursue that right now. Feed my family much. I'm sure you've heard a lot of things about your father. You didn't get a chance to know on But what
are some of the things you've learned? Uh? Since uh, you've hooked up with your uncle got Basically he wasn't you know, nobody to play with, and you know a lot of people looked up to him. You know, I didn't get the chance, but you know it would have been nice for me too. Now, you was born in like ninety five or something, so you was only seven years old when when your father met an early fate, so you wouldn't even been able to get to know even if it wasn't. I'm the youngest day yet. So
how's it been hanging out with James McDonald? Oh? You know, you know it's I open it, you know, just to see the other side of the family. You know, my dad's side of family. Just crazy that my mind. Fab we all, you know, get alone and you know family first, you know, so I love So what part of Los Angeles did you grow up in? Wattson Niggers and guarden projects? Wow? How many years when it's called of fall? Four years? Graduated,
got my degree and master my minders all that. You know, that's pretty impressive because ain't too many people coming out those projects going to the university actually and without his dad, you know what I'm saying. And so you know, you give a lot of credit, you know, And that's why I say, you know that anything is possible. But my purpose is, you know, having and getting my nephews on
the right track. I could talk to this games the Chronicles ship all day and and say I want to help people and kids and not to follow my footsteps. And this is why my nephews are here. I got my nephew on my left, Juan. Uh, he's out here, uh doing the videos he's recording with us. So just to get him out the street and just just keep him on the on the straight path to do you know, some great ship. And this is why my nephew here he's doing music. I thought he was gonna bring something
to let y'all here so I can get a year. Nay, But you know, these junctions ain't never prepared. So we might get him. I might play some of the ship next week, so he could always tell us where to find your stuff. But then if y'all want to listen to my music, man, you can go on any streaming service, SoundCloud, Spotify, tune. It's on everything you could think. I got an album out called Blessings, and I got an album out called pick Usow. Then I got see know some solo features out.
But you know, look up Ace, I got a boy named mos So it's my homie. Me and him just put up you know, album together. That's pick a Sard. So if you see it, if you want to find out one, it's Ace and Moso Pickasow. You know it's on every platform. Now. You are graduated from college, went to university, studied up, took a bunch of classes to get your degree. Why didn't you go into something else
that your degree could have planned you to do. Why are you coming to music instead of doing something that was probably connected to your education. Well, honestly, you know, having a degree though me and you're gonna make it in as world. That degree don't really do nothing now days, you know. And I was a communication major, so if you want to be technical with it, I'm basically using my communication major in the right way, you know, you
trying to taste this dream what I can. Okay, well, I partially to agree with you were getting that four year degree is like a first step towards me many other things. For me, it saved my life. I graduated from USC the year you were born. And if it wasn't for that, you know, tell him, you know where I would be. And it's definitely an accomplishment for me and my family. Yeah, I mean, I'm grateful for the trip, grateful for the experience. You feel me, and those four
years probably saved my life, you feel me. I don't probably don't know where I would have been if I didn't go to college. You know, my head my head, and I came back, you know, thinking different. I've seen other ways of life, any other life and all that projects. Can you you know that has done that? Not to me, Mama, definitely now you know. Spider is one of the most known accomplished l A rappers you know around and you got him sitting right here. You got any questions for
him or vice versa? Can you give the young man some advice and he wants to kind of follow in your footsteps? Spider, Well, I know, just coming from the area, from and experiences he'd been through that he got what it takes far right as stick with it because UH ain't no guaranteeing this gang. You know, you could do all the right things, like your cousin was talking about, he was overqualified to step into a certain position in
his life, and he still didn't get it. So sometimes you got to detach your feelings from this ship and just smash you know what I'm saying. You got you, you're doing the right thing. Though you're eloquent. You ain't scared of the questions. You ain't scared of the moment. That's all that's too It man's who has inspired you and what kind of gets you going musically? Honestly, I do you know? Of course I love Nip that man, but I listen to everybody. You know, my cousin Dudo,
he put me on six nine. I don't even like him at first. He all he did with screen, You know, I meet mill Oh watched their life man R and B. You know, I mess with Jock queezs. I mess. That's why when I make music. You know, you can find me in every type of genre. I'm at R and B songs. I got some ratchet stuff out and I got some you know, some eye openers too. So what's
your view on six nines music? Forget about what you've done now, but just musically, what would you say about when he was the photo that he was the same person I look at him as now you know he was cloud tasting. You know, it was just music. He was just hype. He was all he did was front and taste cloud. That's all he did his whole time being up there. Now, James, what do you think that you have a nephew that actually graduated from college but
he wants to pursue this rap. What's your for you that? Well? Actually I have Juan here, he graduated from college. Um, I have a few nephews that went to college. Uh, my nephew, little Timmys in search for his degree where he got another year, but another year and he had a degree. So they're doing good. But you know, I got more than three nephews. Uh, his brother little outsin Um, been raising his daughter, has been working since he was eighteen.
You know what I'm saying at the post office, I just got a few of them that need to be and just set and you know, to be focused. You know, I want them to be focused instead out there on the game banging. Tip the game banging today. It's not like it was when I was game banging. It's totally different. And you know, these guys don't understand that, so but
I'm aware of it. So I don't want them to think they following our footsteps, they dad footsteps, their uncles or whatever you So if I can talk to them and get them on some different ships. For the camera in your hand, put the mic in your hand, and do your thing, I'm good. Made my day. This right here made my day. My nephew actually see that I'm supporting him. My nephew see that I'm supporting him. And that's that's the only thing that matter to me. Your
whole persona, your whole countenance is lighter today. You can tell that. You in a space, so like yeah, because i know I'm helping them. I know I'm helping them. I mean, man, I feel good, even though we're going through some some sitting in our family with my uncle having cancer. I just lost my mom's over castle now and I got my home. This right here makes it all like, Man, I don't have to I'm not I don't have my head down. I'm not sad. You know.
I gotta be strong for my uncle and Mountie. They've been married fifty one years. You know what I'm saying. My auntie is taking it. It's like hurting right now. So supporting my auntie in that time and then supporting my nephews and this time I learned to put them together. And I'm cool. You know what I'm saying. I can honestly go to sleep and say my nephew ain't out there with a gun and the shame. I know where
you want it right now. I know where tyreead Right now, they're right here with me, getting busy doing something totally different than some street ship. So man, I'm I'm I'm proud of these dude Tyreek growing up over there in the Nickoson's. Where you ever influence or compelled to want to be a part of the gang over there or how did you navigate that? Uh? Growing up over there, Man, you can't like that's. I'm gonna keep with the stag
with you. Man. If you grow up in that, that's you're gonna be a product of your I'm either way, you're gonna find some type of way out. You feel me, but it's gonna always be a piece of that in you. You can't. You can't just you feel me avoid It ain't no way around it. I mean for some people, I don't know. I can't speak on everybody else. I know me. I was a little hot head man, I was. He saw Bunny in this. I ain't a lot. I ain't a lot of y'all man, But I'm trying to
feel me. I'm trying to back on myself. Yeah, play football, because you had to keep that great point average jumping all that on the football field. Now, there's a handful of a handful of young rappers out of the projects over there, starting all the way from Jay Rock is probably the cream of the crop over He's from over there. Yeah, So what's what's the music seem like? Who's the next bubble from out of there? That depends on you feel me life. I ain't about to if I gotta say
so it'd be me. I ain't the most cocky and none of that, but I'm I know, I'm nicely feel me and I just started. But all of homies are dope for me. So yeah, we had topped up with each other. But at the same time, you know, it's competition, anybody doing their own thing, trying to make it out at the same time, we all come from the same place. A grinding for me. I didn't mean to cut you off, Red,
What was you saying? I don't know, okay, but we can lead into that, and I want to get his opinion and James and all your opinions on this, since we're talking about this gang stuff and they guys and fakers and winksters and all of that, all these bit chass thinkers from New York, right that leave New York and go to another town and think they're the fucking balls. And your niggas can't even come home. Your niggas can't even do none of the old city. Your people just
getting smoked and killed. The ship you nig isn'ty responding, y'all is going back home, making like y'are tough. Y'all come to New York with that ship. If anybody and
y'all niggas know who I'm talking about. If any of you niggas thinks that's y'all that tough and y'a can with niggas in my crew, you don't talk about I'm talking about anybody nigga, anybody I'm associated with, y'all nigga sick, y'all can fucking y'all could do something with y'all trying nigga when they out of town, then come back to New York with that ship. I gammon, fucking tea, nigga, y'are gonna see who runs this fucking town. Nigga, Your niggas don't run ship. You nigga sta out of town
with that function, stay damn south with that function. Nigga. Your niggas couldn't survive in New York. That's why y'all wear y'all at nigga come high that my niggas man from Bromston, Brooklyn. We got this ship and we ain't letting nobody there. You from New York. I got you, nigga. Fuck is wrong with you niggas. Niggas left the fucking city now you niggas is crazy Y'alliggs kids, stay Y'alliggs
kids surviving these streets no more. If y'all think y'all got somebody on my ass or my man's ass, y'all, niggas got something coming black, y'all's just stupid. Nigga. Everybody, don't make me call you bitchass niggas names out Nigga. Your niggas ain't even like that, nigga. Your niggas down there down in the South rober niggers. Come home, nigga. We gotself for you. We throw niggs parties in Brooklyn. Niggas. What's up with you? Niggas? What's up with you? Niggas?
Come home, nigga, come home. Stop sucking with the little homies. Man, Come funk with the big dogs. I'm out here, nigga. You fucking clown ass niggers. I dare you. Niggas, come home, Nick, That's what That's what I want you. Niggas come home, Come and fuck home, Come back home, Come to New York, pussy fagg of ass niggers. Man, niggas ain't got no life, Nick. You niggas clowns out here. Nigga. Niggas better stay on y'all. Fucking's the rock tick Nigga. Ya just bumped the funk out.
Don't play with nobody in my family, Nigga. Niggas clowns out here, come to New York, Nigga, We do this for real. Nigga. Niggas is crazy out here, boy, fun kind of like these niggas live. You niggas living in the funky nigs living in social media, Like Nigga, you're living in social Nigga. Nigga, Nigga, you're fucking clown dass niggas. You're like what you niggas man, Niggas, let that ship go to your hair. You're skinny, big you skin niggas are skinnier than me, and I'm a skinny, big hat nigga.
The fuck? What the fuck is the vibes? Nigga? The fuck is the vives? Man? Shout to my bronx niggas TV and them, you know, Shout to the hats niggers. Shout to the mac ball and niggas that roll with us, like like we're the fucking mob. Nigga. Where the fucking mob? Nigg I'm picking on niggas now, Anybody fun with my niggas. We're picking on niggas because I got the bag. Now I dropped bags. Nigga, come home with that talk, Nigga, come to New York with that talk. Nigga. Nigs can't
handle this New York like man. They can't live like us, man crip. Some of these nigga CAUs some of these niggas cars. Funck's wrong with you niggas? Yaay yaig's the one that no smoke, no smoke, no smoke. Nigga. Niggas out there, fucking vegans out there and we want to kind of beef niggas. Stupid fuck wrong you niggas. Man, I woke up like this man wrong next, wait until I got the bag. Niggas, wait until I got the bat.
Fucking dumb niggas. We've been gangster, so now we got the bag of maagin what's gonna happen to you niggas? The Funck's wrong with ni nigga. Nigga. You know that, you nigga, you know what the fuck is up? Nigga and niggas know the vibe. Man fucking death Row show. I'm gonna show you niggas the road. I promise you that Shi, were gonna show you nigs the road. Funk with anybody in my family and then I'll promise you. Niggas and y'all don't know who our family is. That's
where you're sucking up as stupid, fucking dummy. Talk to them, gloak, what's up here? What you want to talk? He just let me do my thing now. Look, fucking faggots, stupid. Your mama's stupid. Go kill somebody that you got beef with. Stupid and niggas ain't killing ship Nigga. Niggas ain't doing nothing. I love my man Bix, not for telling niggas. Nigga smoked on your cousin. Cause Nigga smokes your cousin. Nigga smokey at the like cause and you act like a
little bit. Nigga smokes your fucking family out here. You're trying to funk with them. Y'all don't sunk with a little HOMESI I'm suck with my little homies. Man. We're the mob, Nigga, We're the mob. They don't have us on you, Nigga. Don't have us on you, Nigga. You nigga stay home. Nigga, do not have me on you boy. Do not have me on you boy? What's up with you? Niggas come to New York acting like y'are tough. Ain't nobody in the industry fucking with this mob right here?
Nobody come to New York with that. Come New York with that? They kick concert something when he says something, supportant what you say? They can't come on. Niggas can't come back here, man, and they just can't come back here. I got the unit. I'm not snitching on nothing. I got the unit back. I mean, shout up the g unit. I'm riding around. Come to come to New York. We're gonna show you how we're riding around. Come to New York. Come New York, Come on, come home see you, Nick?
You know you go down south. Niggas ain't been in New York and ten years. Be like y'all from New York. When nigga win who you know? Fuck you know, nigga? Who the little homes you put on? Pussy stupid? Come cross these bridges, Nick, I show you something. My fucking live man. I love my fans. Shot to my fucking fans. It is fucking trade. Wead ain't nobody tougher than us. Man. Ain't nobody doing ship like we're doing. Nigga. I promise you your niggas better stay the fucking the South. Nigga.
I catch you niggas in New York. I promise you. I don't get who want, I don't get about nothing that catch Catch you niggas in New York. Nigga, y'all better stick with them hip hop police and and I'm nigga y'a run around when you come to the city. Don't act like we don't know. Nigga security just got Nigger security just got slapped right. Fucking niggas pussy niggas funk out there. Don't play with my family. Man. I'm warning you niggas. Last time we get a call that
you're playing with my family. I'm on you. I'm on you. Let's got spin on all that we all. You nigga shot to my fucking gang shot the game. Can you explain what we just listened to? Yeah, that's just something audio. That's what's on the on ther internet. But uh, it's um from Shoddy right before he got arrested. And my point to bringing this too since I got two old
gs in here and the gang expert. Um, it's my problem. Well, it's not my problem because I know East Coast niggas got gang bangers and they and they're tough and they got I'm not here to try to pull people g card, but I'm just trying to show in my point and listening to that is how this brother is. Um, they're so confused out here with this game. So how he claiming to be the mob and which is blood affiliated? But then he holler and cuss all through the video.
And I just wanted to see how the guys on the East Coast get away with that stuff from two guys from the West Coast that used to be in gangs that were West Coast affiliated, And just what's your opinion about hearing that, because that shows me how the guys got indicted and caught up with trying to perpetrate being something that they really weren't. And I just want
to see your opinion on that. I know he sound confused trying to mix up death Row and G Unit altogether, like you to do the Row and U G Unit make sed up. That sounded confused, and I understand the dudey talking to was a crip and that was probably just his playful ways, just trying to show that he set tripping by, you know, saying those terms. I don't bother me one way or another. Ain't for my hood.
It's comical. It's entertaining that ship bothered you a little more since he was hing hood that you well, he pitched me the last night. I mean, just listening to it. I didn't know it was a clip that somebody just chimed in and put it up there. But if anybody listening to bomb first last night, you can see how Madie made me. You know, all of this talk talk talk, and you know, the dude never said what name he was, who he was mad at whatever, don't make me drop this.
So I just had enough. Reggie didn't say nothing. We're just sitting there and listening, and then we're like, who are you talking about? We didn't know this was a clip, and he pissed me. I ain't never been that mad in a long time. But they can't piss me off. Fathers, this game, banging status and all that, I'm not gonna even touch that because the guys in jail and somebody played this clip of him. So I'm gonna say it ain't his fault that, you know, motherfucker's out there playing
games like that. But fathers just status on way from and what are you doing and holleringet his people? I gave me mad at me because I used to with niggas like that. I go to a goddamn party and what's that a cousin and all be mad to my brother. But I mean that's just that's just him working with his homeboy or whoever they got this respecting the dude that creepy. I know who he was talking to, so it that didn't bother me. Just he was a crip. I think he was talking to his a crip. So
he was trying to just show love to him. Show yeah he was, he was nigger was there winning. He was trying to tell him to talk to that. Ye who was he disrespecting to? You know, I have not the slightest idea whoever he be that' he said he was mad at he was mad at New York nigs from not being in New York that moved to the Yeah, yeah,
so I just just father that entertaining. Uh to me, It's confusing because you're trying to be one way and then you you're talking and acting another way, but just showing how he got things twisted out there, and that was the only reason for the clip. And he talked to talking to I think he took He took some time too, didn't the Elex Crippy who creepy his name, was involved in a diamon He like took some time and got caught up in that little Yeah, that would
be for he and Walter. Yeah, he was the fifth the six guy named in the indictment against the Ninitre. Alright, I didn't get to do the fact check, so I'm gonna run through that really quickly for you guys from last week. Okay, look, so last week, Spider, you you mentioned that t I actually testified against the shooter. I went looking for the video. Like you said, the whole video does not exist anywhere on the internet. UM, but
apparently it testified against a guy named Joseiah Thomas. Why is we talking about this is this is just a fact check from last week. UM. I just want to say that I got inundated with text messages in boxing saying that t I did not actually testify against the shooter named Joseiah Thomas. But according to you, you said you saw the video. You remember the video, but the video doesn't exist anywhere. Uh. World Star hip Hop actually has this video that says twenty eight minutes, but when
you try to play it, it doesn't play. Shot. Somebody tell me uploaded it, and no, it's not the whole thing. You can find one like little minute excerpts of it, but the video clips that do exist don't show t I actually testifying against the shooter. But the shooter ended up getting forty three years in prison. His name is um He's He's He's currently in Pickaway Correctional Institution in Ohio, and he was convicted of murder and a bunch of other other offenses. And uh, he won't be getting out
of prison for a long time. Also, last week I shouted out little Doc from six nineties Coast. We talked about the truth between the Florences and the East Coast is and um I also got a shout out the woman that actually got the whole conversation going. Her name is Petra. She doesn't think that she's a big part of it, but without Petra, these conversations would have never happened. So we gotta shout out Petra because Petra is the one that contacted the guy from Florence for a whole
another reason, for a whole different reason. And then the guy from Florence asked Petra, Hey, I've been trying to get in touch with some East Coast is. Can you get me in touch with anyone. I've been trying for the last three years and I've been unsuccessful with every
East Coast that I've communicated with. So Petra said, yeah, I'll connect you with a guy named Little Doc, and that conversation, which started in July of this year, caused the truce between the East Coast Cripts and the Florence thirteen. And the guy from Florence thirteen. I could say his name because he told me it was cool. I've actually directly communicated with him. His name is Bobo. His real
name is Braleo Castellanos. He's been in prison since the nineteen eighties for murder and he is a Mexican mafia member and he's currently He was part of the Hunger strike in two thousand thirteen. Prior to the hunger strike, he was in in the shoe without any contact with the outside world. And after the hunger strike, they let these guys out of the shoe, and because they let
him out, he was able to communicate. So without him being out of the shoe, Bobo would not have been able to communicate with Petra, and then he wouldn't have been able to connect with Little Doc, and these conversations would have never happened. Shout out a little Doc, shout
out a little Slim. Absolutely. And then last week we mentioned the there's also a truce between the North Daniels and the Soudennials that started in two thousand, actually two thousand seventeen, And I just wanted to say that that that conflict started in nineteen sixty eight in San Quentin prison over a pair of boots. That's called the shoe war, and that's what cracked off the North Denniels and the Soudennial conflict. And that apparently is over right now. They're not.
And they came they had not only did I have a truce, but the same guy, Bobo, was a part of that truce. So Babo's in prison. So Bobbo's on some different different thinking right now. He's been one years old. Men in prison for that at the time, man, and changed your mind. A lot of ship and it don't humbled him, and he said a lot of this ship wasn't worth it. So man, I my hand, my hand go off to that man board for doing what he's doing because he's changing a lot of ship. Go ahead, Spider.
I reachually spoke to the me little slam for five nine on the foard. He told me that it's been like a three or four year thing where they had a racial cease attention. Like he told me to tell the youngsters, you're on your way. You up here, you on your way to a retirement home. That's what you'd better get yourself ready for. You not feeling me the only wild nigga up here. That's a message on the Spider.
You're going to program, bro, So you know that's what they need to hear, them going to program, So you might as well start now, bro. Yeah, because if you want to be a part of this conflict, everybody in prison is on board. In fact, Bobo told me he sent messages to every prison yard that he can send messages to to say it's over. And with these phones, that mean every yard. And we used to take months and weeks to get them kites around. Now that's immediately
every yard. No, it's immediate right now, It's immediate. So yeah, I wanted to just make sure I shouted out, Petra, Petra. Everyone knows that without without what you did, this would have been possible. Okay. And then lastly, we talked about the felony murder rule last last week that allowed Cameron Terrell, the white dude from Rolling forty you know from nineties um able to beat that murder case. And that's Senate Bill fourteen thirty seven. I think you mentioned that last week, Reggie.
And what's really interesting about Senate Bill fourteen thirty seven. It basically says that you have to be directly responsible for the murder in order to be charged. Prior to that, the old rules said if you're part of a murder, even though you did not intend to kill the person, you're still responsible. Or someone else dies and it's in bystander does or if the police kill somebody and then
the course of a crime. Yeah, but the felony murder rule, which is Senate Bill fourteen thirty seven, allows a lot of people to say, hey, I didn't intend for this person to die. That wasn't my motive. That has nothing to do with me, and that's why people like Cameron Terrell, Samage Welsh and a bunch of other people, Um, are you able to beat their cases? And it is retroactive. Remember you mentioned that last week, so people could appeal their felt up sentences from ten twenty years ago under
a Senate Bill three seven. So if you know anybody that's doing prison time because they fell asleep in the backseat or they did not intend for the person to kill, let them know that as of September thirty of two thousand and eighteen, that's when the law changed under Governor uh Brown, he can possibly get out. Somebody just asked the question you getting paid to want to mention he know the super chat popping. But somebody said, where did
the Fresnel bulldogs falling in the truths? Oh? Great question. Actually because of the truths between the Northeniels and the Soudaniels, it's making the Fresnel Bulldogs stronger for some reason. That's the reports I'm getting from dudes on these yards because they're not part of that. They're not Northerners, they're not Southerners. They're independents from nathanas I thought they was. They was
rocking with the northern I think they were more. I think in the twenty years ago they were, but they decided they wanted to go independent in the nineties, not years ago, I'm saying recently. Now they've been they've been independent for at least a decade behind them. I can't I don't know how they chose. Don't think they rocked with neither. Yeah, they're just Fresnel Bulldogs and they're right in the middle of the state of California, Northerners and
Southerners so well, independitentiary. They rocked with him. They don't rock with anyone now by themselves. Yeah, they're pretty deep, so they're not nah. So the Fresno Bulldogs, they hopefully they can get on board, Hopefully they can get involved in some of these talks and conversations. But right now they have nothing to do with this truth between the North Daniels and the Soudannils So. And the last thing, the Florence's and the East Coast has had a meeting
just on Sunday, just a few days ago. That's a second meeting, and and it went amazing, face to face. They had a physical, face to face meeting at the same place one and central. I mean, you can't agree that that's some good definitely some weirdos that probably And let me tell you what I did yesterday. I went through both Florence hood and various East Coast hoods taking pictures of graffiti. And guess how many disses I saw in the In the twenty photos that I took yesterday.
Zero zero. I found a truck that was obviously old. The truck don't count. There was a flower on the truck. But I saw some fresh six six East Coast. I saw some fresh six deucease Coast, no flowers drawn salute to both sides. And I saw a bunch of f thirteen fresh hit ups, no crossing out of East Coast. Crypt is real and and then initially take it to another level? How do you get to the next level with this? I mean, it's cool, you got seize fire.
If everybody is getting alone, you ain't got nobody dying this week, next week, tomorrow, tonight. I mean, you gotta keep it going, though, You gotta keep it going. You know, you've got guys out there that don't want to participate in this. Get drunk, let's go out, and who whoo you might have some other motherfucker's that feel, oh no, we don't like this. These guys together, these guys are We got the Mexicans and the Blacks funking with each other or at a at a ceasefire. A lot of
people ain't gonna like that. So how do you well? They got the momentum right now, the momentum, and I think senued physical face to face meetings is critical to keep it going, you know. And if it's stops shooting for three or four weeks to the month or whatever, then it's worked with truth, with the with then in the blue. And I've seen how quick that turn. But now here we are, Here we are two decades later, maybe we'll have a more solidified and we're smarter, less
engaged drinking, getting high and partying. A lot of kids came out just to hang out and because all the brons was hanging out. But you cannot drinking party with the opposite side and think it's all good. Sooner or later it's gonna go boom. I think that blow up, that point is very important, James, because I interviewed. If you watch my video on street TV of a lot
of the brothers that's involved in this truth. Smurf from Bounty Hunter said, the mistake that they made was that they turned it over to the younger homies and everyone was concerned about women drinking, smoking, getting high. Exactly what you just said. The younger homies ain't the one to control the streets them. These are the ones you gotta stop, you know what I'm saying. So how to funk you win if you don't. The little homies do what they do as soon as they get loaded, they turned up.
But you have to have because the older guys ain't there and stepping up all of these challenges they're doing. And this water challenge man, each black man challenge. Let's challenge each black man to take him take his camera or his phone or whatever, and sit down and talk to a youngster post that ship and let's see how many brothers is stepping up to help these youngters. You know what I'm saying. Let's do ship like that, not
not not sitting here. We can talk about this all day, but you have to have action, man, You have to have action. Without action, everybody minds start wondering. You hear one gunshot, all the motherfucker's shooting at us. That's all you need, you know what I'm saying. That's the good thing about the Mexican Games. They have a little bit more structure than the Black Games as far as listening to their big homies versus of course exactly so they
control it through the jails. They'd be like you coming jail for that, and then you have to understand our side. Yes, we got sucking this over here. You got high power. More fuckers up. They're putting they putting their life on the line like Indians. They I'm writing this ship in blood and this is what we're doing. We ain't doing it no more, and it's coming from the high power.
If they can do it, we can do it. I think it's risky even Bobo doing what he's doing, because he's part of a network of other brothers that might not be supported what he's doing. But he also has his brother and you know, he's at the top of the food chain, so he might be able to get away with a little bit more than the average person. But I think it's courageous what Babo is doing as well.
All right, So before we got to talk about this, Amber Geiger, Dallas CD officer that was convicted of murder. But real quick, we gotta we haven't answered anybody's questions. I want. I don't want to say something to James right quick on, all right, go ahead. I know about it. This company name Keeps right here care product that I think you need to check out with James here where they need to they need to go and tell them to me, y'all putting them on debt? Yep, yep, yep.
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so maybe I'll try it out as well. Alright, alright, so um, let's just answer a couple of quick questions and then we'll go on talking to about Amber Teiger. There's no way we cannot talk about Amber Gaga. But c J from Instagram wanted to know if you guys can talk about the lady that was in the entourage at the MGM that night back in ninety six. I don't know who he's talking about. Reggie and I had She kept popping up all the way until they left out the MGM, and I kept back, when the hell
is this old lady following them? When when the fight was started and they on the ground, she goes around. When they showed a clip of them going through the casino, she's in it. She was with them. But I didn't know who this broad. You know, they always have followed because they everybody trying to get into Club three, because it was trying to head back then was bringing on this and that's what a lot of the ride to
get in, so that ladies, nobody y'all knew. But there was a female that did come and testify against you. That was one of the security guards. So they could be talking about her, but I know, I'm just saying that there's another female that that testified against the metro probation violation. That was she was She had more guts than a lot of the skitty officers because she was all in the middle of it. Appreciate all right, well, c J. She she was knowing that James or Reggie
knows about. I guess there's some straggler in the in the lobby of the MGM that night. C J also wants to ask, can you talk about the Wo Wou Tang clan member getting his chain snatched that club six six two back in Vegas? Now, the Woutang got this amazing show out now, Um, I heard, and I think I'm on like episode four or five, So I guess I guess c JR. Inspired by the woul Tank Clan show. What happened hip Hop? Something like that. The name of
the show. I think it's just called or there was another show that's out there, and they're getting in the death row next season. Nobody is getting robbed, especially getting the chair riz Um. Somebody pulled the rizzle chain in the v I P Room in the back and and and of course you know, the fight that broke out in the v I P room. Me and some of my security took took him outside and throw him to the Las Vegas police. But this was the time before
the shooting of Tupac. The the fight that happened probably in March March of six, So James wasn't working at the don't remember that he wasn't working. He was just what he was. So the fight wasn't like a huge melee or anything like that. It was a melee. James was just probably on some other venture trying to get some money out of some some high rollers. Did risd actually get his chain removed, the chain taken and um somehow we got it back a day or two later.
But actually um, I turned him over to the police and and um we just took him to the door and the police took him and dealt waiting. But he didn't go to jail or anything. But uh, he did come back complaining about his chain and Parkins Sugar made it so a common cat took it from risident I did just say that, well you're saying you know him that Parkins shield. You know, he came back and playing the park took it. This sugar and they got it back to him. All right, well there you go. CEJ
On Instagram. The show that they have out is just called Wou Tang and American Saga, So go check that out. Um, all right, Amber Geiger, she was just found guilty today of murder, not manslaughter, not second degree. Actually yesterday she was found guilty yesterday. She was sentenced today to ten years. And what I found interesting about this case is that Texas does not have any you don't need premeditation for murder, which I thought it is kind of yeah, that's that's
what was no premeditation. There's no premeditation in this homicide, and Texas doesn't require premeditation for for murder. So that's one of the reasons why she was found guilty murder. Why she was found guilty because she has no The prosecutor did a great job of showing that she wasn't. I had no compassion. This was a check that was texting her boyfriend who was married, while the other cops
in there trying to save this man of life. I thought he was shot somebody, but she was texting on her while she was walking to the door before she shot the guy. Don't know well that she was texting the whole time, and the text that she was sucked up in head. Yeah you know, she said never been a cop, should become a copy what they said. She was on drugs, so she was just nothing, something in the system. She was just that dude must have lay some pipe to him. And that's what I said, This
is the problem. They not the victim. Let me. That's what I was thinking. They knew each other somewhere because she got in the manse. No no, no, no no no. Those that came out after it had they try to She lived underneath him. She went to her long floor because she was tripping. Her head was all funked up because she was arguing with this cop that she was having her story. She was how did she get house door was? She said the door was unlocked. She said
that it was unlined. I believe it wasn't okay. I believe that the story happened. She accidentally walked into a part spiracy nothing. She just was the reason why she got convicted. Because this woman had no compassion for what she did. She was just like it would have been it would have been something going on. How do you walk in somebody else house. As soon as you walk in the house, you can identify your ship to where
you stand. That's when you white, when you're white. They were stretched the extremelyties of their imagination of imagine a white person. Oh maybe so. Plus, there was a redman, was a red doorman. And let's let's just shout out the victim here bothom John and everyone called him bow he had he had a red it like a doorman was his favorite color. They different from amber geigers. So immediately you would think, what she's on the phone texting,
stressed up? She's going She parked on the wrong floor. She was supposed to parked on the fourth floor. She was smarter than I thought. She said she could have just shot somebody on the mother streets. Maybe she just want to kill. That could have been her initiation to the white supremacy underground game. All right, James, what you're gonna say? I just don't understand how she did that ship?
How do she just walking somebody's ship? And you can understand because I do it sometimes I parked on the floor in the Beverly Center and then come out like that, what Flora I'm supposed to be on? You know, when you put somebody else's house, thinking is yours? No, okay, if you ever got a room and you thought, damn this this is my room. But let me let me give you the scenario. She's on the wrong floor and doesn't know it. We've all done that. She puts the
key in the door and the door opens. It's not locked. Bo unfortunately did not lock his door. If she can remember that ship she remembered what flows she on. Man, if she can remember she put how she put her the keys are different, turn your head if you want to, man, But I'm not gonna that chick knew what she was doing. You just don't walk too. So basically you're saying she went in there to kill this dude with without the beef,
is life was? I think she should did as much time as we can generally expect him to live so people can make trade. Actually because she's because okay, so she just stupid as to jail for he's dead. Well, she should have pleaded insanity, because police office people never plead insanics. That's not someone yeah, someone being go ahead, she just stre his life. Black lives matter, Go ahead. I want to hear what Spider got to say. I deal with ex cous with the police, the actual current
ones that are killing black people. I'm not trying to justify what she did. I'm just saying I haven't said anything about her except that her sentence was not streaming with something. We didn't get to the sentence part. Yell, we're just about what she did. Here's an interesting thing.
When she applied for a Dallas p D. The first time, she was denied, she had to reapply to become a cop because the psychological no. She lied about marijuana on her on her initial resume or whatever you call it an application, so she I never knew that you could reapply after deny and then get to take the job after year after year, and they I think she smoked one. Yeah, how was it lied? Like confirmed? Like how did it come out of She admitted that she used marijuana in
college and recreationally. I didn't know if it was a big deal. But she didn't get hired by Dallas the first time, so they screened her properly, probably, but then eventually a year later school with this qualifying. My cousin Tony took that police test, and one of his problems was identifying this part of the test where you have to identify certain things in the room or whatever. You know what I'm talking about, being in the place and identifying more than one thing, and then you got to
write the report on it. You know what I'm talking about. I'm trying to think he said it was hard for him to do that just because he had identified They showed him some ship and then you gotta remember what you see it. I'm quite what point are the test was that if that was an academy or okay, so he fell out in the cop ya gotta remember it? Um? Anyway, go ahead, now, go ahead, and I don't we don't got this woman was a cop. This lady walked in the black man house in a in a man period.
You ain't. We don't even do the racist ship walked in there a man sitting down eating that watching his TV, and she gun him down the bowl of ice cream. Come on, man, why why why do you think the prosecutor hard on that? Because it sounds so innocent exactly, and they prosecutor did a great job. Human love Bo was the perfect victim. This dude was like Joe from the bio. You know, without that his life is only women, womenute without all of that. You're saying, if the product
you had a different projectutor, she probably would have worked. No, I think if the victim, I'm saying, if the victim was someone that you could drag to the mud, you might have had a different results. They would have tried that, you would have had a different result. Believe me. Let's say, James. Let's say you're the one that was the victim's mob James, and might have a different result. If you was Bosom, she probably got off. But that retch if she was different.
That part, but my part is if she was a little bit more compassionate and was more sympathetic and all of that, she would have got. Here's why she can never be. Here's why she can be because they pulled up because and her old Pinterest and she had a few racist comments on if you because it's not bro if you don't get the George Zimmerman connection. All this rationalization y'all doing made it okay for him to kill
that black boy. So now you're going through all these scenarios to make it okay for this man to be dead. When you know, damn, when nobody said there, go ahead, So why would you respond Nobody else, saying that if you got defensive right now, I just said I did. I did say. You said. How you saying nobody said it? Because what you're saying, what is it that say what you say? What you're saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, you get you rationalizing her actions to make it seem like
ten years was enough time. I suggested that I had. I suggested that if she would have been more compassionate and not have those things in her heart that apparently she does now, she wouldn't even got a date. But no addressing what I'm saying, well, you're not. Were you off base? Because what I was saying, you just said no one said what I was saying. I didn't say nothing about that. What I was saying, she deserving street a lot more time. And I said, her attitches. I
don't believe there's any sence she's representing them. I don't believe it's based on the facts that was placed. She doesn't. But even as atment, but even as an accident, I agree with, you should have got more. Of course this is an accident. It wasn't because it happened inside his home. If it was an accident, I say that if it was, I agree it was an accident, okay, but I believe you should have got at least twenty y'a don't agree that was an accident. I don't give it somebody else.
If it was a white man on the couch and you walked in and shout him, you ain't that shop ain't gonna fly. But if I lived, but if I lived there directly underneath, it wouldn't fly. It would not fly. It wouldn't fly. Come on, man, y'all got to keep it just. I don't believe it was an accident, just like just like k K and this year, I didn't say, I see you do in Paraples. I said, how do you know it's not so? If Sean was some dude involved in all kinds of shady eye things, him dead,
and I would say maybe this is a conspiracy. Upright life, Christian all the way singer in the choir, College Graduate. There's no reason to knock off Botham John unless you're ticked off texts and upset, and it doesn't matter. You're being reckless. You're not being as cost as as you would be because of that, regardless what your intentions was, you were too irresponsible. To call this man's life to leave to to to die, so him to lose his life.
Therefore you deserved it. Okay, I see what you're saying. She killed him at a frustration while of other things going on in her life. And she's been overly trained to handle situations of distress and the rest, so she should have been more on point to hand to a situation. Question why didn't the Dallas p D kind of help her out with the situation. They could have covered the whole thing up and made him the victim on Bostam John, not the victim, but as the suspect. They're not giving
the suspect. They gotta put him in her place, man, and and change the gun just like just like the lady said, she was understanding. She said, I wish it was him with the gun and he could have killed me. I mean, ladies, shut up. That's a joke to the victim. Bro, you know what I'm saying. And then they're making it seems like ten years. You think you would have got ten years for murders in Texas. No, I would have
never got ten years for that. Her whiteness definitely privileged her, and being a police officer to man, we can that was a that was a black I'm not I'm not impressed. No more. Don't matter that ship don't matter if it was black, nothing half of the half of the motherfucking black. Somebody keeps saying it is sucking sellouts and they they proved they sell to the white, but that they're doing it. It don't matter if he was black and white and white one. We don't. We don't work for us. We
work for them. Thank you. And that ship happened. No, Reggie, you could be mad at you. Right that lady walked into one of her one of her posts. This is lets you know how aggressive of a lady she was. She wrote, I wear all black. Remind you not to mess with me because I'm already dressed for your funeral. She posted dad on picture. That's why she got charged. All this I said she was, That's why she got charged.
If she didn't do all of that and she was more sensitive and over there giving him CPR and all of that. When when she walked in and more apologized, they would have never charged him. Okay, Reggie, you just made my case. She didn't have any issues if you had never found none of her ship on Instagram or text messages, and this is a police officer walked into the wrong house and killed him. Man, you think she'd have got off and walked away because she made a mistake.
And that ship ain't sad whether it's a black man or white man. Somebody just long state life because somebody that I tell you that. But then at the end of the day, his life is only worth ten years. This man is dead, I think in two thousand and eighteen. No matter how clean that cop is, you're getting charged for doing that. But it's just a public opinion. It's just too much against us. Said on the previous episode that everybody needs to go against the grand jury system.
Every cop shooting needs to go through the system and get vindicated by grand jury or uh some type of system oversight. You're given a what if I would have, should have, could have and and and kind of like like this chick okay exactly, and that's the prob states of America sun and then make mistakes. We got drunk drivers and all of that the goals and show me the example of that last that show me an example of the stack getting the law benefit from the idea
of oh we make mistakes. When do we ever get the mistakes? Man, give me one example. Then she shot twice. She give a lot of people that a lot of people is not taking your example. I don't think of an example one of my I'm begging for example, somebody that be the case he doesn't know and anybody who be the markets or didn't get filed on. There's people walk. That's not what you said. Give me example where hey,
we make mistakes. That's what I'm saying. What James, what? Yeah, you don't have cases where you don't got released and when you would look for murder. Johannes shin Measly on the platform of Fruitville back in Oakland, said he made a mistake when he shot Oscar Grant in the back. He thought officer he thought he would had his taser. Yeah, and that was the older cop. That was a different men, you know I'm talking about. It was one we guys one that pulled out this gun. Well, he thought he
was a reserve comp or something like that. He pulled out a gun and he well he actually pulled he thought he was pulling his taser, and he pulled out his gun and he shot somebody. But but Johannes's measurments found guilty, but they only did one year, one year for killing Oscar Grant. Mistake that was actually that was a mistake where people were still split over here was it? That was like two thousand and nine mistake, a mistake
no matter what type of mistakes. In the movie about it, Michael B. Jordan exactly, and he and another there's a debate with that. Johanna specially said he thought he had this gun when he pulled out his that some people don't believe he made a mistake. Others do that mistake mistake you point out you don't see that yellow and black. You gotta split second of thinking when you got your gun in your hands, and plus your gun is on
your strong side, your tasers on your weak side. So I actually sat in the trial and I was a little confused, like, how do you mistake pulling your taser from your weak side? You want to make cops like TV and stuff like that, constant human too, and they get scared and I'm duct in the bullet understand, well, you know with guns, ain't drinking. This is what we want to hear them say. Ship. We never hear them
say that I'm saying that. Oh yeah, you yeah, I mean, you're come on, b yeah, I mean, but look, one of them them say that. One of the reason why they need to say that, one of the reasons why Botham John got killed. And it's the point that you brought up a few times, Reggie, And she said, Amber Gager, when she saw the man in her black man in her apartment, she got scared. She got scared, and she is not an excuse because Molica trained to use the world. I fear for my life. Yea, he reached it from
a gun and you hear that. And every time I still said, the coldest thing, what do you think John was taking after you pulled the strap out and dumped on him in his own imagine a nightmare of those seconds, those last moment. He was going, you know, my life for a life and you just killed the man because you made a mistake, You took a life. You should pay for it with your life. That's what they do to us. You got brothers in prison doing seventy five
years for life for premeditation. Okay, what can she Beggy, You've got so many in schoolmeditation. You know what? This is what I say wait a minute. This is why I say, This is why I say and my voice, black lives don't matter because black people don't give a about ourselves and we we well, how do we justify what this chick did? Well, let me let me give you another example. This this and Reggie might Uh, a black officer was sentenced to twelve years for killing a
white woman on accident. Of course, twelve years, ten years. It's almost like, you know, it's a different state. This was a minute. So he just got convicted this year. Remember that one, Reggie. You know, once they started showing, you know, we're gonna get the butt of it. They used to get out, they used to didn't even get convicted.
They used to didn't even get cases filed. And a lot of people are saying, start doing it now because of this outcry that we have because of a Colin um uh Kaepernick awareness and bringing awareness and attention and all of this where cops and police cheats and all of that and departments can't kick stuff up under the rug. So so I applaud this um that they're making people more accountable. But we can't throw the book away and throw people lives away behind mistakes. But this happened inside
somebody's home. She up. I just think she should have got that happened. The way she's saying that happened, we haven't you trust me? They don't. Other than her being heartless, um not caring, and and and the Facebook uh Instagram post whatever, other than being stupid. Well, the body camp footage from that night actually supports the story. I don't know if you saw I had a chance to see the body camp footage. Did you see the body cam footage? Yeah,
I under the whole thing. That's why I said it was his sofa and charged her with his hands out the joker. What justifies her shooting it? Well, that's a good point. How does she's standing in the house? How long was she standing in that front door before she realized I'm in the wrong place after she shot the dude? Okay, go ahead. What was gonna say about Texas? Well, you know they have some weird, weird laws as far as
when they can shoot and put guns out murder. Remember training, and I gotta remember how cops are trained to Unfortunately military trained a little better, but Cossar train where you see a bad target or something like that, you shoot. They had that coach shooting no shoe and and so a lot of people. This guy was in the house. He probably jumped up, stood up or whatever and she shot. It wasn't like she's shot him sitting at the sitting on the couch eating the bowl ice cream. He's walking
around his house. He was in this, he claimed he gave him some commands to that part. I don't. I don't remember. But but of course, if you're in your old house, you're gonna be like, what what you doing in my house? But do you believe a hundred percent
of her story? I believe she was distraught, and she would She was distraught because that dick didn't show up to her house because she was on the phone trying to text her boyfriend to come come over there and visit her, and he was and he wasn't complying to okay, So that takes her to another apartment. If you if you're texting like that, either you're sitting in your car if you won't get your okay, So you don't look at the elevator going up, You don't look at none
of this ship. You don't see nothing. You know, I'm not even tripping on that. I think that she didn't do whether was not, she still need to get stretched for those reasons. I agree, because just like a woman who leaves her kids in the back seat that die, she don't get to walk. How much time did they give these women who forget and look, I always say to myself, how can you forget your kids in the
back seat? But it happens. If it was happening, if it was a mistake, let me just say that on the record, if everything that she did was an accident, in the mistake on the police, she should have got one day. You don't think she would have got I said, I don't think it was a mistake this conversation. She had a walk because she failed. It was a mistake.
But that's called that. She got found guilty. But they her because that all the actions any reason, because something she was found guilty and she was qualified for ninety years, she got quality. She got found guilty for a crime she could have received. So in some stretch of the law, her actions, we're ninety nine years worth the prison time that black was sitting there and her to shame on her, shame on that black judge or in the jury. Years was the max. But I never knew she wasn't even
get the maxed. She's only gonna do five years. Shame on the system, on the system. Hope, hope, oh man, that's Terrible's one thing. She can never be a cop again. She got fired to meet Zimmerman wasn't even a cop. So that's not even a pointy. That don't matter. No, they killed us without a badge, just five years. Christians, you know what's his name? Boat. If it was a mistake, it was an accident. We all make accidents, Okay. If we leave here right now, if you die, you wouldn't
want me to go to jail. If you fall, if I phone and my gun go off and they killed you, the bullet hit you, and you believe that you weren't an expelling, and you wasn't because now you come in a crime or something like that. But I'm just saying, if it was just a mistake, and then I've question that ivant that because the expelling shouldn't have a gun, I'm just trying to say, I'm not no more. But my point is, if it was just an accident and the gun dropped at that happens all the time, I
hadn't been around two cops. They got shot by their partners like that because they dropped the gun or something. So then you think you're honnest measuringly should have got zero time for saying I accidentally thought this was my tason when he shot and killed Oscar Grant in his back, that was that was the problem. What that incident is that he was shot in the back with Holly shot him and all of that. But if you if he was just wrastling with him and the gun went off
or he pulled thought he was pulling, pulled this traser. Yeah, mistakes happened. We got an incident with that old reserve. But some mistakes are punishable. Though some mistakes if it's neglace very, if you have a tool design to subdue me that's not lethal and you pulled the wrong kill me, that's a negligent mistakes and then it could be or whatever. But would there is negl just that rises to criminal criminality driving down the street a hundred eighty miles in Negle,
but you're just going straight. But do do you puposted to do life in jail for that because you was going seventy down the street and you accidentally run over hit the kid. I mean, but this man was doing all the right things in order to live a longer life. Okay, that's why can I finish my answer? I don't saying somebody ohes for the life he lost. So the person that took his life, no matter what intentions, was her life, should we do? Should do find it any exchange. Unfortunately,
even though it's an accident, it was still intentional. She was She could have gotten it was an accident, but it was intentional. She pulled that gun out deliberately. She's fired two shots and she's seen her masks. So that's that reality they switched. They that's that perception. We're not are you doing is saying why they came to that conclusion. That doesn't make it right because that's the reasoning that
they used. I said before each time. If everything she said was accurate, then I feel that way I think you feel. The facts is it's filed that his life was cut short and someone was responsible, and I think that their life is would do just find an exchange. She should have got twenty years at least at least mistake, Yeah, yeah, but it happened, not a mistake. For the man's life that was lost. The mistake happened on the streets. Unfortunately,
how do we make up for that? I can tell you if you were enough where I lost my loved one, you need to lose the same amount of time that we can all reasonably agree that they would have lived on for the future. The United States, that's not, that's not, that's not because she could have received nine years. So it was it was there prescribed for her to be able to It was up to it was up to
wherever society their logic. Go ahead. Man, if it's black on black crime, yes it's racist, and I'm gonna got the posted racist crime, we get we we we get booked for it. If I killed you, I'm getting forty to life. I don't give how game bangers just getting washed up and and and some of them didn't even
do it. Also, if the police fired you immediately, you're probably going to jail because you know how hard it is to get fired as a police officer, and how rare do the police get fired after they shoot and kill someone that's on off a black male. She was fired, so you knew indictments were coming exactly, So they got rid of the problem before anything else. But if if it's black on black crime, nobody got shipped to say this woman was totally wrong. I don't care if it
was a mistake and not. I don't care to turn his head and in shame and telling. But that's some bullshit. She also made some negative comments against other black officers on Dallas PD that were unfavorable before before the yeah, before the shooting that they found on on on the internet. That's why she got That's why, that's why she got I don't want to think that's the reason why she got in. That's the real shame that she got it because she walked into the wrong house and killed a man.
I hope, so that was unarmed. The reason why it's because the prosecutor did a good job of showing that this was a good black kid. Well, that didn't happen until the trial. She was indicted a year ago. But all the ship is coming out. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. The prosecutor did a great job. Okay, yeah, they did a good job. He didn't do a good goddamn enough job because he should have argued that ten that was on the jury and you know, and in the jury, do we know how many was on the jury,
six black, six whites, whites for Mexican. They did publish that, but I don't know. Okay, they need to need to see because they had a snoop dogg h jury. Alright, fellas well, let's wrap it up. Thanks for coming again, Spider. We appreciate you here. Yeah, I know. We're into it good,
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