The Jo Jo Capone Episode

I got this guy. We're gonna bring on name Joe, Joe out of Chicago. Man, let's get the show started. Glad to be back with Games Chronicles in my family. How y'all doing out there this row? I forgot to mention Alex and Reggie and you know they can't be here and do this with us. But the show more's gone. I've been waiting sitting in this house due to the virus. Just go to work, man, I'm ready, ready, still over sure you say earlier you got you a ventilator, actually

one of the big old man. Oh man, I'm rocking the ventilator. I'm I'm I sound like dark Veda but man, I'm just ready. I'm just trying to be shaved and sorry. You know, I truly this ship right here is for real a family member. But we're talking about that in a minute. Are you doing, my brother? I'm good, James. How you feeling, man? Oh man, I'm blessed so far. I mean, you know, just out here trying to stay away from everybody. That's right, that's right, Stay out the way, man.

We can't. We can't left it. Little virus. They trying to kill our wisdom. Mail. They're trying to get rid of our wisdom, y'all, that's what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, alright, well they can't do me. Yeah, they're trying to take me attack. I held us so we can't get no game from them because they know they ain't got nothing but a bunch of young, young and reckless is out here and them, Oh man, they're killing me with it

out here. Many the party they out of here. You know, these cats out here doing drive bys and you're supposed to be in the house. They're doing, uh, they in high speed chases at two o'clock in the morning. What the are you doing outside in the high speed chase? I think we're just I think was that Monday. I think we had like seventy three degrees. It was like seven shootings and seven deaths. Damn. And you're supposed to be in the house, and you supposed to be in

the house exactly. You proposed to be social distancing. But you know what I'm saying, it's like it's crazy, man. It's like once once, once, once we got in um introduced to that, to that pistol. Man, that was the only that was the real curse at the Europeans put on us. Man, they introduced that pistol to the world. Yeah, yeah, in a real way. We can run. We can run from a we can run from a knife, a dagger,

you know what I'm saying. In the boring arrows, we got a better chance with that from what from what you know, coming from the Motherland where we had you know what I'm saying, Well, I mean you know, to me, we all play a part. And you know, being a youngster coming up in in those days, you know, your figure is the weir the world. This is how you get down. And you know, after being a victim of of a drive by shooting and all that ship, I thought it was the best man. If fight fire with fire,

should I say? And you know that just launched is something totally different. And you know, back then we still had a like I respect kind of cold you know what I'm saying. You know, this is my purpose here it you know what I'm saying. It wasn't too you know, shoot that little kids and all that other ship. But it's just like it's way out of hand right now. It's it's like back then up into now, it's still a bunch of reacting without thinking. You know what I'm saying.

It was, it was and that's and that's how innocent backstanders and kids got involved with straight bullets, because everybody was just out in the street and joined the weather and didn't nobody knew that. We had an argument at the skating reef, argument at the game room, you know what I'm saying, And then followed and then it followed back over to and say, hey, I can't beat this guy because he's six ft tall and I'm I'm five five. So now I'm gonna go get this this this this gun.

You know what I'm saying. That put in some work and it's and and that's what kind of makes me think like the brothers that had that Napoleon complex, just leave people alone. If you got that complex and you feel like you can't fight a giant, what you bark? Love the giant tree? Fu Well, a lot of cats out here today. And I listened to some of your videos, and and you know that everybody want to be a gangster. Everybody want to be with the business. But everybody is

not with the business, you know. And and I gotta I gotta saying gangster by nature and not by choice. A lot of those dudes do it because they see it and they think that's the the way to be. You know, it's sad to say that. You know, our women love hardcore cats, you know what I'm saying. So everybody feel they have to be on that made. But when the test come, if you ain't ready for that test, point me. You can talk all the ships you want, but as soon as that cat, a real cat, get

at your ass, you ain't ready for it. Right, You're gonna you're gonna fold. And when you fold, it's all over. That's so that's where they that's where they sunk up at. Every Body ain't ain't with it like that, right, And and they always said the the good girls like bad guys and for some of our reason, and you know, I don't know if it's it's but that's the opposite

to track. Yeah, it's true, it's true. We we know she a school girl, we know she green, We know that this, this, this whatever we're trying to stash, and Haide is safe in her house, you know what I'm saying. So it'd be it'd be a it's a survival tactic for real, right right, it's it's it's a weird choice. And we pick and choose, and we know who the funk with and who not to funk with. But you know, I was I was uh reading up on you and how you mediate the the hip hop thing. You know

what I'm saying. Boy, I wish she was there when death row it's cats, because you know, sure Night didn't listen and not I was there. I was there. I used to talk to Sugar plenty of times, like we stayed in tune or I seen I was in there when he got shot in Miami. Okay, Yeah, so I always gave him advice to man, you know, But once again, when you get the guys, it's a difference if you're a guy from the street with millions, and then you

got a guy in this industry with millions. It's it's it's still a battle because we're still looking at it like it's a mancho thing, you know, it's it's a testosterone thing. Like why this guy even cared to tell me to don't involve myself with such certain things, you see what I'm saying. And that's because it's like, listen, you're gonna be a fool with some money or you're gonna be a genius with some money. Which one you choose to be? Well, I can say you made the

a bad choice. Um. You know, like I said earlier, you know some people and just the power you know, some people don't know how to control that are now to deal with that type of power it you know, over men, and and you know, not growing up with that and not understanding the hardcore ship of it. And then once you get that power, you just you just run crazy with it. And I think that's what happens. You know a lot of us don't know how to

deal with it. Well, some cats they can't deal with it because if I'm not like that, and then I can pay my way to to to be this person I'm rocking and rolling with it. But then at the end of the day, you have to keep that personic. You have to stage this cat. Now you're gonna have creditors getting at you, just trying to see what type of cat you really is. And once you fold and and and lose that, then the game is over the

game because the we're gonna spread like wild fighting. So it I mean, it's just a it's it's it's a funky situation. But you know, I watched and I listened. You know, you were talking to uh P Noble, you was, you did an interview with them, and oh yeah, today my birthday. So I'm getting a thousand calls and texts and every day, Oh man, happy birthday. Mind Friday on the separent teen, Oh yeah, team areas man teaming all the time, all the time. So my whole family, damn

man areas. My sister thirteen, my other sister the fifteen, my left few the fifteen, my little cousin the sixth So we got a whole bunch of areas and our ship and we all acting like that's how That's how my neighborhood is. It was so many areas in the neighborhood and from and from birth, it's kind of been like, man, what we're gonna do for our date, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, and I was born on my father's birthday on the temp today, you know what I'm saying.

So when I was born, I think my mama said, it was like fifty thousands, thousand guys around the hospital and everything was like it was unheard of, you know, because yeah, because my old man, you know what I'm saying, was a street figure out here, you know, and so you know, to have a stun on his birthday, it just you know, he his old mob came with him. That's right. That's right. That's a good thing. Every year. Look,

you got something looking forward to, Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I was just telling I was just telling my third child, my third child, second older son, I was telling him yesterday, I wish you could have met him, you know what I'm saying, because uh, you know, for me, he was in the penitentiary in and out the majority of my life, you know what I'm saying. But I never held that

against them. You know, I had some kids whold stuff against the parents, but for some of my reason, like I was explaining to my sound, and I never was able to get upset with him, you know what I'm saying. I just it was kind of like I understood that if something is done wrong in the police, thump you

go away. You know. It was like it was like in our minds, like that's what you knew, knew to see, right, Unlike a lot of people, you know, like our father's, well, you know, my father wouldn't ship, So I really ain't got too much good ship to say about about that cat. But you know, like my uncle's and with kids, and you know, the seventies and the eighties took us away from our kids. You know what I'm saying. It sent

us to the penitentiary. You know what I'm saying, getting into the drug game, uh, you know, hustling, just just doing a little bit of everything, you know what I'm saying. So that took a away from you know, the household, you know, so like like myself, my mom's had to rage five, you know what I'm saying. And the good thing about that was my mom's never spoke bad about Pops, regardless of what he was doing and what type of character he was the majority of women, fuck your daddy.

Your daddy ain't ship. So you grow up believe in this, and then you have resentment for pops. And this is what's going on through through all our households with with with young black men growing up. Mama don't make it no better talking about the daddy. Daddy don't make it

no better talking about moms. So, I mean, you know, it was just it was It's a no win situation, you know, unless you got that strong black woman telling you your daddy was just going through and trying to find itself nine times out of tend that he don't find itself nowhere but in the penitentiary. And you know that that's what fox us up. But I'm I'm I'm like this. I'm I'm one of those cats that you can say, if I know what I knew, then I would have been a better I would have been a

better person. I wouldn't have been involved in doing halving the ship I was doing. But here I am why I blame anybody for my shortcomings. Once I turned sixteen fifteen, I should I'm at the point where I should know better. You know what I'm saying, I should know if I want to get in this car and go do this. I should know if, if, why do I want to hurt this person? This just cat ain't did shipped to me, but it was just in me because of my upbringing. And I chose to use that as a excuse to

say I got a right to do this. I can do this just because you know what I'm saying, because this happened to me, or this is the way I grew up, So let me inflict my intimosity, my pain on this other cat. So you know, and the and and it. It caused a lot of problems, you know, going to jail, going to the penitentiary. I had a strong support sys of my sisters and all of them, you know, helping with my kids. But I wasn't there

for him. I wasn't there for him. And I got two boys, which man, I'm glad to say turned out good. You know, they both went to college. My daughter it's doing three years right now because she more like her mom and dad, you know. On that. I don't give a fun type of ship. You don't want to hear nothing.

So it's center to the penitentiary. In a sense, I feel like I'm the blame because I shouldn't have let her go back into the environment with her mom's because her mama been to the an attentiony and I let her go back. I raised her for seven years when her mother went to prison for the second time, and I should have kept it from that, but I didn't. So you know, she wanted to see her mama and go home. When her mama got out of prison, I

made I made her give me a year. She got her ship together, you know, start driving trucks, she and the church, the whole nine. But as soon as I took that, that that leash off of her, she when he got pregnant, she started gang banging. You know. Her mama was known female in the neighborhood, let's say, with the business. So they accepted her with open arms, with no questions asked. And you know, I tried to figure out, you know, what could I have did different? Maybe shouldn't

listened to somebody else. But in that they're not so much of that because I've been down that same road. My baby mama done e letter years in the FIDS. You know what I'm saying. Um, So my two daughters by her, you feel me. You know, it was a collective hole to You know what I'm saying with all my children, that she was the mother figure to all. You know what I'm saying. That situation happened. You know, I basically had all the kids like too a soldiers.

You know what I'm saying. Yes, sir, no, sir, you know, drill sergeant. But it's like when she came home, she felt like that time that was missed, she had to kind of be a friend the parents. Like I tell her to listen when you when you come out here, don't don't get solved because you missed that time. They really didn't miss nothing because I made sure they kept They made every visit, every phone call, pictures. You see

what I'm saying, So don't don't. I know you in your mind, I feel like you left them and away from them, But in reality you really wasn't because they called every visit, whether they shipped you, whever they were shipping you, I'm flying them and making sure they get there, you know what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, I knew that the kids would play off

of that. You know what I'm saying that she was trying to make up for lost time and you know, the kids gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna play them games. You see what I'm saying. So the majority of the time of me having to um discipline my children was because of how they was trying to play her, and they knew better, you see what I'm saying. So when I here, I am laying there trying to protect her from being misused buys them, she get mad at me,

you see what I'm saying. So it was like, you know, so it then it turns into okay, well when they run you up the wall, don't call me about nothing. I don't want to, you know what I'm saying. So, uh, because I told you hit the ground running, keep your foot mashing on the gas like you never left. You know what I'm saying. Be the mother, don't try to be the friend in the system. You know what I'm saying. That's the problem today. Yeah, so you know so you know so you know, I'm proud of all of them.

You know what I'm saying. I sit back and as I have to look at myself as to say, it's girls just on this internet. They're twerking and they're going next it. You know what I'm saying and all that. So I'm I'm I'm I'm blessed to where my daughters have enough respect for me because don't do that like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go through the phase of the different hair colors and the eyelashes and all that, you know what I'm saying, or even the tight clothing.

But it's kind of like, at least I'm not seeing what I see on the internet. You know what I'm saying. It's it's it's uh, it's off pouring basically, you know what I'm saying. And always be mindful that those are

somebody daughters. So what happens by me having daughters, my father instinct kicks in all times, even if I'm on these little guys tour relanes in them page and they're making a girl's twerk and pull milk all on their body and all that, and they're doing this in front of three hundred thousand people, you know what I'm saying. But it's a lot of times that when the girls get on there, you know, we're typing in the comment, hold on, bro, she gotta show I d how did

she she looked too young? You know? Or you know you're doing this. You see what I'm saying, it's it's weird. And then you know, when you do have daughters, you have to be mindful of their friends. That's from school and things like that, because them younger girls they know how they they know how their friends looks up to their fathers. So I have to be a strong guy, you see what I'm saying. To where that when the girls hitting on me or whatever, say no, you're my

daughter age or you're my daughter friend. So you got to be a strong individual because a lot of these young girls look like they full grown women. You know what I'm saying. I mean even from I'm saying eighteen up to twenty five. But you still gotta say, so what would help me if my oldest is twenty eight I'm a little for some thirty five and up. You see what I'm saying, right, I'm not. I'm not gonna play around and they feel you know, so I showed

him respect and they showed in return. So that's that's just basically hack. Oh you gotta give respect to get it, That's right, That's right. Yeah, man, I'm I mean, it's a struggle. You know what I'm saying. Trying to raise them, especially when they've grown and they think they know everything. Um, you know, my daughter shaved. I mean, that's how you was, That's how my mama was. You know, how do I react to that? You know what I'm saying, be better,

you'd be better than what we were. Show a difference. Somebody gotta show a difference. That that was like for me. I had my son, the third child i'm telling you about. He graduate a to college. You see what I'm saying. So I besides my aunt, I think my mother's younger sister, she graduated college. So she was about the only person that I personally knew that graduated college or stayed in

school along. She kept switching up. Um so now you know, she kept she kept switching up what you call like profession, She kept switching them up. So she just forever staying in school's punning, you know. So um So besides that, it's like my parents saying, Okay, when you get sixteen or you get your permit, we're gonna buy you a car. You know the stuff that they was telling me when I was ten years old. You see what I'm saying. But back time I'm thirteen, I got a million dollars

in counting. By time I'm fifteen, I got three kids, so I'm doing all this on my own. Nobody was able to take care of me. You know what I'm saying. Because I'm in the street. You know what I'm saying. Thirteen fourteen, we're fighting gang lady murders. You know what I'm saying. The crew stood solid. You know, you come from up under situations. You see what I'm saying. You know,

take the case and they run a concurrent. So all I knew is how to stay solid in them situations and know that don't fall back victim to them situations as well, you know, And you know, just that whole life or how reckless we was, Like I just reflect on a lot of things, like we're catching guys and they got their mother with him going into the grocery store.

But because he got his head to the opposite side of what we wear, we're whooping his ass in front of his mama, And that's that's not nothing to be proud of to this day, you know. But it's like, why would you put your mother in harm's way? You see what I'm saying, Going to the store with her, with your hat to the left or you know what I'm saying, or to the obvious is why would you

do that? Right? So that alone made a lot of disconnect with parents as well, because it's like, listen, you had to come clean with your parents, like, look, mom, I can't just be going to know any store with you. You know what I'm saying. My oppositions is over there, what you mean opposition? So of course she grew up in it too, so she knows what's going on, you know what I'm saying. So it was like, man, man

of life, we really had to live. Man is we I'm grateful to see another year today, bro, you know what I'm saying. So so, I mean we have the same thing, but we had what you called we gave people a pass. You with your mama and your kids. I'm not gonna shoot you. I mean I might hurt your kids, you know. And and you know, doing my gang banging days, gang banging was the only thing I focused on. I'm not gonna snatch your first I'm not gonna go do this this robbery and do this other bullshit.

My purpose was gang banging and afflicting as much pain as I could on anything, and anybody that opposed me, you know what I'm saying. So it was a it was a big difference trying to hurt somebody that was with their parents. Are their kids were not a difference from us. We had a cold, baby's on up. That's how reckless we was. We don't care about nothing. You know what I'm saying. I just, I just and like

that's that literally was what we was known for. You know, we was the enforces of this city, you know what I'm saying. So any calls from from from the mob or whatever, we had to carry them moves out. So you it wasn't no turning yellow, you know, that was a thing we used to say, you boy, we better not catch you turning yellow. We're gonna leave you there. You know what I'm saying, which admit for the light red, red, green,

and yellow. You know if you get if you hesitant, we're gonna leave you there because we know you ain't about this life. So a lot of times you had to witness people that you came up with get left on the scene of a situation because you you know what I'm saying. You know, it's always if you're running in the pack, it's always if it's tending that back, it's four y'all gonna be on the same page, and

then it's gonna be six. That's iffy. So in in them situations, once them four look at each other and give each other that I that six might have to stay there. You see what I'm saying. You know, when you're dealing with a lot of stuff like that, bro for so many years and time, it just it takes a toll on you. So whenever you're able to like for me, like you know we got you know, we go to the tattoos. My whole back is a mural, and it ain't it's complete, but it ain't complete with

a little warm you know what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, for me, I knew about im playing all the pressure in the pain we never did, we never did reciprocated until late on. So the pain we felt when we lost our one member, you see what I'm saying, allowed me to know that all of them, all them other how all them other families felt, you see what I'm saying. So this is when your conscious started kicking in. When you become conscious and you gotta think,

like in my neighborhood. It's the nation of Islam. You know what I'm saying, Thelijah Muhammed monsters in my neighborhood, so you know what I'm saying. So we had the brothers to look up to as well, you know, And it was like being raised on both sides of the street, the conscious side of things and then the negative side of things. So I knew right from wrong. But I know every time I go outside that though, it is what it is. You know. There wasn't no promise, don't

coming back in here. So it was times where Um the nation with that they had I don't know what when I when our partners had done something, but they you know what I'm saying, The brothers had kidnapped them and took him in the mars, you know what I'm saying. And we had to tool up and running in and get them, you see what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, we're running in there with these tools.

And just a few years ago, you know, I just really apologize to Minister fair Con for my actions, you know what I'm saying, And and he and he and he Um acknowledged that and gave me all of love and guidance and coverage. That it was because he understood that my pack with my brothers, you see what I'm saying. So, so I ain't gonna lie. Bro like that took a lot of weight off me because you know what I'm saying. Uh, he's definitely a martyr in my eyes, you know what

I'm saying. So for him to always embrace me and me coming up with his children and grand children and stuff like that, and sending busses to my projects, you know what I'm saying. It was like every Sunday he has sent busses to my projects because the nation was throw parties, you know what I'm saying. And um, if you come to if you come to the mass to hear the lecture, when you the next next Friday or Saturday, when a party, you get a ticket so you get

in free. That was that was my way to get thirteen hundred or more people to get on this bus come to the I was able to do that, you know, I was able to. So I just I just made myself try to even up and not have a testosterone battle with every brother that I come across and not

getting the toughness contest. How the minister would do it was would make it too war is that we come to the Mars to hear his lecture, you know, and then the brothers would give us tickets you know what I'm saying, to come to a party that the nation was involved in, you know what I'm saying. So, um, he would send busses to the projects to transport us back. So what was happening I had I was in the projects on the west side of Chicago, in the village, but the buses will bring us to the east side

of Chicago on Stony Island, which was my neighborhood. So that basically was like a ride for me from one side of the town to the next, because now I can go to school the next morning. You see what I'm saying, This grammar school time. But that gave us the pre teens. That gave something for the pre teens to do, which is why so much crime is going

on now. The pre teens don't have nothing to do, they don't have no money, they can't the why m c A's is no longer you know what I'm saying, Or the prices was too high for y m c A. So what you think the kids gonna do. They're gonna roam the streets. You know. I had to run in with with the march we had Incompton. You know, we went to the motherfucker and uh, you know, they get us from the park, tell us to come to and and listen to the word. And we're going there and

we're listening. I'm gang banging, I'm I'm affiliated, I'm with it. So we get up and we were hopping our cards to go up there. And it was a question I wanted to ask because they were talking about the blue eyed devil. Well, if you're preaching this, how is you preaching about the blue ete devil? And YadA YadA, we biased to color race or whatever, and he told me to be quiet. We asked the questions at the end or whatever you came to ask that you just listen

to the word. And I was like, you know, fun this ship. Let me get up and go. So my whole crew got up and left with me. So they came out and said it was like a sign of disrespect. I turned around, bounds, gave up the funk you sign and and and just we left. When we went back to the park, we knew, well I knew that it was that was the wrong way to you know, do it. You know, them brothers on a totally different page in US,

and I was out of line. So maybe a week two weeks went by, I went back up there myself because I didn't want the homies to go up there with the homies and they see me apologizing to people. So I went up there and apologize on my own and and it was it was good from there. My cousins, the Phrasiers, are Muslims, so I felt like I was disrespecting them too. So it's it's it's it's crazy, man, It's crazy, Joe, Joe. I wanted to ask you. I know that you talked about it, because you know, I was.

We had what you would called six back in the um shote, you know, called mom, you know mom, and you were talking about brothers. Waring. He had a certain way because you touched on some of the rules, some of the dudes and don't when you broke them through Chicago, well you know, um, well, each area, each side basically had a strong force, whether there was g DS, Vice Lord,

black peace stones. So when you when you think of the South Side that was basically predominantly black, peace stones and gangster disciples black disciples, you know what I'm saying. The West side, the west side was predominantly vice lords, you know what I'm saying, because they had a branch, different branches, the vice lords, and you had, uh, the black gangsters. So what you what you wind up happened in the beginning was black gangster disciples, you know what

I'm saying, under the speak point start. And then you had to you had two black peace stones under the five point stock, and you had vice lords under the five point stock with a cane and a hat, you know, different branches in the in a in a bunny, you know what I'm saying. The bunny rabbit was was one of the basically what you would say a logo, you know what I'm saying. So even though we had colors as well, blue and black, they was regged and black,

you know what I'm saying. But we did we didn't solidify herself just off the color, you know what I'm saying. How we how they would do in l a you know you even read or you was blue. So for us, we had the Latin Kings. So when you see the golden black, you've seen the Golden Black. You know, you had the Latin Kings, so anywhere, anywhere where we would go,

it would be a variety. So every every mob, you know what I'm saying, so um to the point where you know it was gonna be some beef and some problems. So you usun stay in your neighborhood or where when y'all predominantly at because you don't want to put nobody in harm's way, you know what I'm saying. But you always got the billy badasses like us that would go to the opposition parties. That was the crazy ship we would do. We was like a death wish, you know

what I'm saying. As soon as we're going the skating ring that we knew predominantly was all black, peace stones and vice lords called the rink. If you know anybody in Chicago asked him about the rink on eight seven Street that was That was like walking. That was like a crypt walking into jump. That was like a crypt

walking in my piru. You see what I'm saying, which of course everybody was amongst each other, but I'm saying, in one of their party, if James having a party, you know it's gonna be all my piru in the party. You see what I'm saying. But we but we would be the dudes from uh corner pocket or something, and we're gonna come We're gonna come in James party. That

that's how we was, you know what I'm saying. So it's like I just think of all that brow so today to even be enjoying the birthday and and coming through this coronavirus and everything that's going on, it's like I'm forced to kind of help these younger guys because I know for a fact they're dealing with they on issues and pains. But I don't want them to be just like me. I want them to be better than me. And that's what I want them to understand. It's like

I'm not having no mancho man conversation with them. When they're telling me they shot something over there. I'm telling them, like man, that that should be your last time shooting man, And they're looking at me like you who we want to be? Like what you mean? So what I do it's say So what I say is if I'm if I'm one of the ones who you want to be like, be like me from right now, right from the last ten years, be like me. So what you've been seeing

me doing? Oh man, you're traveling the world. I ain't got no money to do that. You know why you don't got the money to do that because you shooting. You're using your money on bullets and guns. I'm using man on airplane tickets. You see what I'm saying. It's not that you can't do it, it's what you're choosing to do. So I come through to a lot of guys, you know what I'm saying. And then you just once again that test stoupsterone. Bro, You're gonna always have something.

They want to buck against the system. They want to buck against the system. Let me ask you this, don't do you think that that your lifestyle in your previous days coming up as a youngster. They're growing up and saying how you get down? It plays impartant and what they want to be like you're saying now, these cats don't see another way. These youngsters don't see another way. They want to be like the big homie. How the big homie did his thing? And and you know what,

what do you tell them? You know, I got I got five ten, I got so many nephews. The only thing I can say you can never be us? You know what I'm saying. I guess I'm asking the question with a question, But I mean, what do you tell them? You know, you basically tell them, You tell them from your experience. You know what I'm saying. Do you want to be you know, do you want to be like

one of our cousins that we lost. Do you want to be like my brother one of them that's doing twenty six years, that's doing fifty years, that's doing life. You want to be like any one of your other three uncles that you see calling every five minutes, want us to send put money on eight books and come visit them and send them let us and they ain't get no no sex from no woman. Do that's what you wanna do, because what you're doing now is what got them in that situation. So you just give them

the examples of what they're doing. And you know somebody that's in a situation from those actions. You see what I'm saying. Do you give up on them? Because they don't listen, You don't hear that. No, So so I never give up. But like I tell them, I never give up. But like I tell them, don't break my heart. You know if if you know I was a heartless dude, and I'm telling you, don't break my heart, you know, I mean it, it's 't sil you see what I'm saying.

So I would hate they phone calls. A lot of times. I would come to they if they're doing music at the video shoots. But if y'all are in war with with somebody, it's it's it's a it's a fool of me to come post up on the block with y'all in this war time, you see what I'm saying, unless something involved myself in that war with y'all. Right, right, So, so my thing is listen because a lot of them don't know this, James, like y'all shooting at each other.

But what you didn't know your great grandmother and his great grandmama and sisters, right and now you so so y'all have killed this kid over here, but you didn't know. But on your father's side, that's your first cousin, right, So so now how do you feel You can't you can't love your your cousin on your mama's side more

than you do on your daddy side. You see what I'm saying, Which something do we all have done that played the favoritism which one hurts us in our culture, even starting back front the beginning of time, once once separatism gat introduced to our culture, everything's been downhill every since. I try to, I try to look forward and and and now my whole thing is wanting to give back and want to try to figure out a way to

stop the ship that I did. And I felt, you know, with with all the nephews trying to be gang bangers. You know, you know, I tell my nephews, we didn't grow up with red hair and and wearing a pair of pants with a bunch of zippers on him. This is not game banging. Game banging is being active doing what bangers do. You can't be a college student and then game banker is either or you know what I'm saying. When when I grew up, it was a job. This my job right here, being on the lock posted with

a pistol on my shot. My job was to go out there and do what I do, and and every day was reward for me. And I had to understand this is you can't be a half as gang member. But that that let me tex. Now let me tell you how when they start commercializing gang banging. Right when they started letting guys uh do Pepsti commercials and they krip walking and shipp in the Pepsi commercials were over here, We're mad as a motherfucker because it's like y'all playing

with this ship. You see what I'm saying, Like this ain't this ain't no joke, like we lost people. You know, this is our culture. You know what I'm saying, And you're not gonna make no mockery out of it, which in some as would say, hey man, they opening up the gate to give y'all something different to do. But at the time when we first saw it, it was like them. So it was a lot of phone calls from the shot to L eight to our relatives and saying, man,

how y'all letting this ship go down like that? You know, all of a sudden, a raffle want to get on and say he banging because where he's from, he don't got no rifles. So how you banging? Right right? That's you. That's being you in this protection, you see what I'm saying. So so if if if I'm coming from Chicago and then I come to l A and now I'm just I want to be super super g D. But if I'm in l A and don't run into no vice Lower's and no blackstones. You see what I'm saying. I'm

just skating. I'm just you feel me? Right? So now it's like it's so that ain't that's not fair to the coaches, you know what I'm saying. Up banging you feel me? So, I mean we play a big part of that though, because we're allowing, we accept a lot of ship that's been put out here today. We accept the advertisement of what we are. We're not paying attention that a lot of us lost our lives behind this bullshit.

You know what I'm saying. I got so many homeboys in the grave today behind Gang Bang and then you do just dying on GP you know, natural causes or whatever the case might be. But you know, we accepted, we accept all this ship. We accepted. So, like I said, then, I wouldn't say we to blame now and I say

partial blame. The majority of the blame is on us because we're not trying to rectify nothing that that was really going on that's going on today, especially with the rappers that's coming in and and claiming a set, and we allowed them to come in and and and rep the neighborhood because of money. You know what I'm saying. And you know I had a situation and I said, I never mentioned poker and in any of my conversations again, but we had the homies accepting him to be from

the hood. My whole thing is, you can't be from the hood because you ain't. You ain't spill no blood, you ain't. You ain't did this, you ain't did that. And and you know, people don't understand where I'm coming from when I say that. You know what I'm saying. We lost a lot of homies. Now we got homies putting pictures on the Tupac on their arm, they chest, they backed the whole nine. You don't know him like that.

You know what I'm saying. You didn't. It's it's a total different thing growing up in the situation than coming into a situation. You know what I'm saying, And just saying you this is you. And especially if you're an athlete or entertainer, you don't have to be you don't have to get down. The guys in the street will love the trade places. You see what I'm saying, you can tell me I can get on stage for forty five minutes to an hour and I get paid fifty thousand,

sixty thousand, fifteen thousand. But or I'm gonna stand over in this neighborhood and try to make fifteen thousand a month, you know what I'm saying, hustling in the alley, which I can probably get shot, robbed, uh or go to jail. So so that's so that be the thing that a lot of guys in them situations get upset about. But because it's like, man, why are you Why are you trying to deter us from trying to be where you

came from. You see what I'm saying, And it's like, it's like, bro, because it was about it was about choice. It was it was it was in me, It wasn't on me. You know what I'm saying. That's what was going on. You know what I'm saying. Even though it was a choice, it was a choice for all of us back then. But once again, you're tired of going to school, walking to walking through three different games, you see what I'm saying, and each one of them, ten

team deep trying to jump on you. So in my case, if you didn't come from a big family, you know what I'm saying, and y'all going to school deep naan brothers and sisters, then you you was cool, you see what I'm saying, because it kind of was a matchmaker and the fight was gonna be a little more intense because you know, you can't go back home and tell mama you read you see if I'm saying, so when you come in here. So that's where a lot of my rep came from. When I always say I bully

the bully. You know what I'm saying. When I'm my mama ly moving and all these different projects, I want to know who the bully was. I'm gonna go straight to him and let him know this ain't that home, you know what I'm saying. So we're gonna fight, We fight, We're gonna shoot it out. Haven't we had to do it? But you're not gonna violate me in no kind of way, you know what I'm saying. That's how I came up. You know, I don't know how everybody else story different.

Like I say, I ain't into the game banging wrastling match and who the toughest gangster because you know what I'm saying. Of course, a lot of them say the toughest gangsters is then ng hell for life, you know what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, I'm cool with being a preventer. I love to be a preventer. I want to prevent it all you want to.

I had amaze your money. I mean that was the shocking part to be because once again, if I know what I know now, I would have been doing that a long time ago, especially dealing and being around Shuldar bringing him to the hood. I would have implemented all kind of ship I would have. I would have been a little more forceful on get my money. If I was thinking like that, I wasn't thinking like that. I know you. I'm gonna funk with you. You know, show

me this dream that we all gonna have it. Let's rock and roll and I and because because had you known, you know what I'm saying, Had you known, it could have been like a HARRYO situation. You see what I'm saying, I'm gonna have this. I'm gonna have this. Um I got this young brother should got a racket company. He needs some consults. You know what I'm saying, because you're the o g to him. Yeah, so you know what

I'm saying, So he looking for your guidance. But a lot of times what happened when them guys get the money and if you don't have the same a type of money as them, they feel like they don't gotta listen to you. And that's what's going on today. If you ain't having no money or getting no money, it's like what I'm listening to you for, So you gotta listen to these raps and and this, and they ignorant to a lot of things. That's why they keep bumping

their heads, you know what I'm saying. So in your case, if you would have laid there, had a consultant company, a management company, you're probably knowing you you probably are still have a huntred two hundred million right now. We'll

see what I'm saying. And that's the thing, because you know, we did a lot of ship you know, uh, walking into ruthless records and you know, demanding, you know, just doing us which you know, if you gotta check then I think I should have we should have been compensation it for that situation, for the next situation. Everything should have been should have been dealt with like that. But my whole thing was looking at it here. I am never had a uh paycheck such as the ones I

was getting at the beginning. Uh you know all that different exposure, Uh, going out of town and all of this. You know, I'm fresh out of prison and I'm in North Carolina, you know, just i m out of comforted, and I was just loving it. And and when I saw the big picture, everybody else was sold already on the on the dream that I was sold on at the beginning. Down down they stuff and we can't, we can't get out of this situation. But you know, it was just so much money that went past us. Everybody

else was getting it. So the way you, the way you, the way you did it was like, man, I mean, I'm getting paid off of being smart and fixing situations and making sure motherfucker's get what they get, getting that jury back the whole nine. Like you said, if if that that change calls fifty tho dollars, let me get temper cent of that for getting it back to you. I didn't. I didn't do that with him. You know what I'm saying. Our whole thing was with that ass to be done with it and say fuck it. But

that's what you know. That's why I'm glad you came and said, you know what, you made your bones with him. You sent them plus something on his books because you understood, See that's a grown man Like I watched that when you was like, uh, you sent them something on his books. You told him thank you for the opportunity. Because at every in reality, it wasn't his fault that James didn't have the security company, his consultant company, his management company.

It's not it wasn't his fault. I put you right in the loop. You're in the loop. We mean you, my old g you, my big homies. So if if if if you would have had a club and said, hey, bring all the Death Row artists through the club. You see what I'm saying. So it's just just like but like you said, you was an enforcer. So by you being enforcer, all you thought of, all you thought was enforcing. Yeah, So it's it's a lot of brothers that get caught up in that. You know what I'm saying. We all

got caught up in just being enforcer. But I always knew how I always knew. I wanted to multitask, you know what I'm saying, because I knew that in any given day, it's gonna run out over here being this enforced, are gonna run out right? It was it was a little difference from us for me because here we are going at it with the with the police department, feeling

like our situations was different. It wasn't too much of like dudes, freet knew how he was rocking, you know what I'm saying, But we're worrying about if we say it's a peace treaty or we're gonna deal with our own members. Then the police were put on masks, a hood or a different color hat. It come through the neighborhood and be the one shooting until we was founding that out. This has been going on since jad Ohoogl. You know what I'm saying. You gotta think look at

the guys before us. You know what I'm saying. You had the Black Panthers, and then you had you had Jeff Ford, You had Frederick fred Hampton. You gotta think fred Hampton was twenty one years old and they assassinated him. You gotta think Jeff Ford was nineteen years old and may the United States government give him a million dollars. So so people gotta realize that we was on a whole different ball game. I come from a whole different clothes, but die my clothes. They all make it no more,

you know what I'm saying. Like like any anybody that I'm gonna say I'm looking up to is Larry Hoover and Jeff Floyd. We see what the at Larry got more life sensences getting you the bum. You see what I'm saying. But at the end of the day, for him to change and make it growth and development and make us aware that, look, we are not our enemy, bro, like that Willie Lynch there. We gotta get up out of here. We gotta get that Willie Lynch theory outside

of our culture. You know you don't you don't think that play a part in and in our culture today. If if if they keep us separated, just like you said, and then what's the same thing in our neighborhood when when none of the games was that war and everything

was that peace, no shoes and all that. Here you've got the police coming in and telling us, oh, your homie got killed, whoooooo such and such diuty the first thing we on our mind is to go retaliating opposed to getting that the gcass over there and saying did y'all do this? And they're gonna tell us right off hand that that wasn't us, but the police that came and kept this war going. M you see what I'm saying.

So the Willie listening, William this thing now, that's the same thing we're doing to day, divide and conquer amongst each other. That this is what we are doing. This is what hurt us today. We divide and conquered. We don't want to see each other come up if I see you get it and be and all of this other ship and here we are killing each other for this bag that that that I don't work my ass off for. I don't sold drugs five years straight, ain't

got caught. They know I got money at home. It's the homie that's gonna come in and try to rob you, not a stranger. It's it's it's we we we we're beating up and killing ourselves. And the seat and the seat on that right, I have the meanthic because like being in the board in the group loans as a kid,

you know they taught us how to make jury. So I always expressed to any young brother's sister that's watching the never set up a brother or set up a sister to get hurt over some jury, because it's nothing but wax. It's literally a candle, the same candle you burn to give us some light in your house if you're if you're electricity is all that's what it is. It's wax, and then they add the minerals on it.

You see what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, it's like, you're gonna take this person life for this candle. So you know what I'm saying, James, So I make sure that when you see these guys, and then a lot of these guys is wearing morson nights they win the Cubic Zaconian. So at the end of the day, none of us are none of us are as gemologists. So you don't know what you don't

even know what you're ine. So at the end of the day, I was able to go to the South for the Motherland and and see the biggest raw uncut stone in the world. You know what I'm saying. I was able to look through that glass and just be like, damn, you know, at one point in time, the Damnon didn't have no value. A lot of people don't know that the the Beers made a value to a diamond because it was just a lot of stones that they had

access to once they was over there. But in reality, had they sold the damnon and put a price on the diamond was through marriage. So a lot of people don't know that. So that's why for me, it's like I don't need no paperwork and no court to tell me who I need to be with for the rest of my life and all that because deploy was to put a price on the damond. So if y'all when y'all get off of this, um, go to YouTube or google. Uh, the the Beers marketing playing. It's like they marketing playing.

That's how they marketed the diamond to put a price on the diamond. And they started it off with the commercial of of the proposal with the ring, and that's how they put a price on diamonds. Man, Damn, ain't that crazy? So I didn't know. I mean, that's that's what I'm fair sober So. So you're taking a stone, a gem that was priceless, keeping man you're taking a stone that was priceless. Now you're putting a price on it to make people kill each other over it. But

in reality, it's just a piece of glass. There's a piece of glass, and it's and and and to mold. It is waxed, that's hardened shape detail, But it's not worth your life, right. But what I mean, that's the choice that we make when we when we do each other, you know what I'm saying, Like with the with the when the cocaine hit, you know, some of the homies didn't have it, but when they saw the money that was being made in it. This when we started doing

each other, you know what I'm saying. And it's been like that every since, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, my my whole point is we have to find some type of way to get back to the earlier days how motherfucker's respected each other and seeing each other in a different value than than we do now. We really don't give a funk about each other today. So that charish life, lore cherish life, and and it shouldn't take us to get oh to to start seeing ship.

So if we started teaching these junctions and showing them a different way. Like a lot of guys in Chicago. I know they see you haven't been everywhere. And I saw that, and you know, getting that passport, I just at at I went last year at fifty four and able to see something like way across in another motherfucker on the other side of the planet. I went to Australia and it was like, you know, just listening to how you you was explaining that I went through the

same thing, just seeing how other people live. You don't see the obese city and the obese you don't see none of that. Ship these people I've seen sixties seventy year old women at seven in the morning at the beach and yoga and ship and and they and you know, in Australia they got these hills. You you just ain't been a walking flat land and they're walking with stroggers and ain't out of breath. Here we are like like fucking sick for real, we are. We are out of

shape the whole line. And just to live that and just go to different places. Man, it was like, I wish I can go to places you been, you know, like saying, uh, what's your name? Doctor? Uh? Saving I know that was a fucking experience. Man, Hey, bro, like that's a whole another like that's that's like a world wind.

You know what I'm saying here, But once again me being raised to respect and listen to your elders right, wrong in difference, and you were able to decide if they guide in you the right way or the wrong way. So so for me to get the knowledge that here this man is reversing all these critical illnesses, yeah, how town am I not going to you see what I'm saying? That was that was my whole thing, Like he reversing all these illnesses, and he's staying out to diet. Take

that out your diet. And I'm gonna say this. When I was there right now, he this after he passed, Hey to ask y'all something like when I I wanted when I swiped out of here, do I ask when you were talking, James, was you able to still see me? No? No? When at that after you did that, it went to still but I still yeah, it's still good, Okay, okay, because I okay, because I was trying to see about a multitask that and respond through text and uh and

still talk. But so don't worry. But we don't worry about it, Okay, So um to go to their man, the brother eighty three, eighty four years old, man with one year old kids. Man, And I mean, well, I know that I sperm is good to the day we died. I know that. But I said, man having an erection at eighty three and eighty four years old. You see what I'm saying. He was like for real, for real. I hear Nick Cannon and how Nick Cannon talked about

him and respect him. But I mean like, I'm gonna diabetty. Man, What when I need to do to cure this ship? Because taking these shots as a motherfucker's shore. If I can fix that? How to quit smoking cigarettes? Yeah? See he got all that. It's r it's herbs that a killed those um it's I think it's called the shelaxing. I'm not sure, but I think so. It's herbs data data killed those urgies. That that a fight off that nicotine and make you don't even crazy. You know what

I'm saying. Now, he got some suns and grandkids out in l A. You know what I'm saying. That, Um, I can refer you to. But that another thing. It was like that was another thing that he was dealing with, trying to get I think the family, the family out of Atlanta or maybe Atlanta and New l A to stop using his name. So you know what I'm saying. I was telling I was telling Nick that if he

needed some help from me. You know what I'm saying, the documentary, I would I was because that has the state now I could have put him in with right so you know, um, But once again, bro, it's like cause I posted the trailer, and the trailer got about thirty thousand views on my page. You see what I'm saying. But that's because a lot of people know me from

being over there with his house. You see what I'm saying now, Nick, I hope once again that it's not one of those uh testosterone situations and feeling like not bringing me in on the situation to something you know that's Nie and did to me as well. Exactly. You stayed at his house exactly. You see what I'm saying. You had a bomb with it for real, So so you know what I'm saying. So it's like, and then my man Gravy got a vagainia it. He was his

traveling chefs. So when doctor saved used to travel over here and do his lectures. Gravy would go along with him, you know what I'm saying, and make his food. Just like he had his niece and his nephew, Mike and the other nephew. He moved. Um I think he lived in Canada right now. But um man, it's like he helped his nephew. His nephew had got bit bad snake, save the nephew. Like, bro, it's it's it's serious, man, It's like everybody wanted to make the coming. It ain't. No.

It's when you study the body. You know what works for the body. You know if you do too much, so you're gonna have high blood pressure. So you just you just eliminate the salt out your diet, you know what I'm saying. So for you, you perfect, You perfect because you have the illnesses that we all suffer from. So you have a test plimony. You you speel me like I had a brother that I was going over there were we were supposed to stay for two months,

but we stayed for three weeks. Recipees to jamal right, So he he called me today because he was in the penitentiary in Philly. But he from Watch from he from Watch though, but he grew up in Philly. He grew up in Philly, back and forth, so he um he had got uh he He was out of Avason's accountant for like seventeen and thirteen years. You probably know

Mare light skinned. He used to have long braids tomorrow there used to be with Ai every day, so long, so long story short because his mom and everybody from l A from altain wats So he give me a call today and like, Bro, I just went and had my last um my last treatment. Keemo. They can't do nothing else. They gave me sixty days to live. Bro, I ain't kissing my kids, hub nobody, I ain't do nothing. I got that up there next day on a flight and told him to meet me and Honduras. Man, you

know what I'm saying. And I was documenting it. I was documenting his trials. So before he left home, he was being ridden, couldn't get up in a wheelchain. All that. We got over there, Bro, and they got to work and getting them together. Man, that man up y'all, he walking, he dancing, We're playing dominoes, the whole thing, James. And I'm saying this in front of my eyes. That was another brother, because you know it's it's more, it's a whole village. It's a village with cottages. Like you know

what I'm saying, it's people. It's people from all over the world that that be there. So, um, it was a brother over that. I was paralyzed, couldn't walk. So he went to the thermal pool. His wife in the thermal pool with him, and she stepped on his foot, so he had he hauled out out. She like out so she like, that was what you holling ounced for? He said, you're stepping on my feet? Bro? She she she she burst out in tears. She couldn't believe it.

And he he had got shot like he got shot up, you know what I'm saying, right, But he was able to he was able to walk again. Man, what you think the problem is people? Just I mean that are heard a lot of industries like pharmaceutical ship of people followed that follows. Why why he thinks stuff like this is going on right now with Corona? Population control? Bro, It's always been population control, you know what I'm saying.

But for us, with all the people that was killed, for all the people that was killed, trying to that that was avoiding a slave trade because we don't talk about the millions of people that jumped off the boat in the water, you know what I'm saying. So, and then you got people that like the Holocausts and all that. It always was a population controls type situation abortion, you know what I'm saying. It's always been a population control playing in effect for forever. So and then today's society,

everybody's smoking weeds and strung out on cigarettes. So who is falling victim the most? And who ill everybody that has what upper respirat respiratory effects or rest up upper respiratory issues because I'm smoking, So the all the tragedies are basically coming from them because what it's doing is attacking your lungs. What the tobacco doing backing your lungs.

So those are the people that they feel like they basically playing Russian Roulette with their life because on a pack of cigarets, a certain in general tell you cancer, this, that and other, and people still smoke. So you That's what I'm saying. So so so it's so it's like you think I should care that this virus don't kill you. You already was killing yourself, right, But but you killing yourself,

it's costing us. You killing yourself, it's costing us. You costing the government to help you with this hospital, help you with your insurance. You see what I'm saying, You're costing us, right, So everybody we need you didn't get that link from me, because I really need man. I've been smoking it since I was eighteen, going to jail to prison, and i've been I've been out of prisoners this night and i've been I can't put smoking any motherfucker's. Every time I get mad or filling the churf kind

of way, I need to come. It straightened me out. So No. Man definitely hooked me up with with with how to quit it. Uh, leave the motherfucker's alone. It's um so what I'm gonna do. I posted it. I posted it. I don't know if you're on my Instagram page, but I posted the fool guy, the nutrition guy from Dr Sabing. Um hm, I sent it to your phone and have y'all how you want to do it. But um I posted it on my page. It's a yellow thing. You might got. You gotta screenshot it. And that's the

whole list of the things to eat. But far as the um the herbs, I gotta find out which shot because you know they're they're sent it to you straight from Honduras too. But you know, I find out which um sibling or grand child, a son that's in l A and you go right Today's shop. Now, I'm gonna tell you where you can go? Is that on? Is that on Chris Show? The um? Damn, man, the UM. I just was in there too. The the it's a

it's a healthful store on market. It's the big restaurant that sit on the corner CBS right across the street and clean Us right across the street. I think I know when you talk about that might be market James. Yeah, that's the only thing about when you're doing these interviews, and if you was gonna lave, somebody would have told me right away, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but um that that it's a it's a it's a vegan it's a vegan store. It's a vegan. Um. It's like a

Jamaican type spot. Yeah. I think I think I've seen that place before. Damn. Let's see it's some I was just there, man, uh And and they sell everything and there too. Okay, well just send me the hook up and and once I get this, because we got one of the guys that his name is uh Ed Potts. He's been about third teen fourteen months now. And you know, the issues and the ship that I'll be having going on, it requires for me to smoke. So I just stay sane.

You know. I just lost the cousin, you know, you know, due to this Corona ship, you know, and she was forty one, you know, young, you know, And and it just killed me because we just buried their mom's uh February five, and death is hitting my family like a motherfucker. And and it's just taking a toad. I don't think if I, if I didn't weren't smoking a cigarette, I man, I probably lost my mind right now. But it's definitely time for me to quit these motherfucker's and I just

need to find a way. I'm good. I'm gonna say still the uh. I'm gonna say still the herbs to cleanse your lungs from this thing of resimal. I'm gonna see him that right now. I'm gonna send him. I'm gonna send him the um Dr Stap. He's a nutrition guy, and I'm gonna find out exactly where where where where the location to where you can go to his grandson or his son's shop. I would appreciate it. You just save for sure. Hey, look and all you and all you gotta do from this point once you get them

herbs in you bro and change your diet. Just start going to running canyon, going to running or wherever you want to work out there. You know what I'm saying. But you meet so many like magnic people in that area, you see what I'm saying, because because everything is right there, like all the vegan shops and everything is right there. But I'm about to send him the herbs and uh in the in the um, I'm then send him the herbs to help you cleanse your lungs from the smoke

from cigarette smoking. To kill him. It kills the urges. So I'm gonna see you that. I'm gonna send you that. I'm gonna send you the um, the list, the whole list of if you're gonna go alkaline, because you're gonna have to alkaline your body to to reverse that all that. Okay, um, so just a lot of stuff off my mind. Get you some sea moss um. I mean, I'm a phone call away too, bro, So I don't care what time it is, just called me. I'm always give you make

sure your okay, you know what I'm saying. So, so you get you some sea moss. You know that the sea moss give you ninety two minerals out of the hundred and two mineral ninety four or ninety two minerals out of the hundred and four minerals. Your body needs to make sure you get the sea moss. That's very important and that probably helped kill kill them urges too. So the sea moss is a necessity for show. And you want to build your mute system up to the

to the fullest. So once you start, once you start alkaline and your body, get you some alkaline water. And you know what I'm saying. You're gonna just be eating fruits, vegetables and grains for a minute, you know what I'm saying, for a while. But you can win yourself off of the if you eat beef, if you eat pork, throw all that out the window easy, you know what I'm saying. Because for me, I don't eat beef, pork, or seafood or no dairy products. What wood, it got too much.

I died in it. You see know what I'm saying. So you don't want that ship in your blood stream more? Damn fish woman, I don't want it. Yeah. So so you know what I'm saying. So once you, once you, you gotta feel like realize, you gotta cleanse yourself from the inside out, like like your gray hair started coming back black and everything. Man, it's crazy straight up. Because it's restoring sales. A lot of yourselves is being restored. You see. You see how young Jojo look. Yeah, you

know what I'm saying. So at the end, hold on, brother, I ain't gonna ask your age because that your birthday. Man, Hold are you man? That's a blessing. Man. I'm fifty five Friday. Yeah, I'm fifty five. I'll be fifty five, man, And I want to stay because you know, I gotta three year old over here. I gotta be in folks. You know, just the first end of view I ever teld my age. That's but you know what the thing used to a brother. That's one thing we have the

black people. I've noticed these young people, man, they are like getting old. It's like, you know, we in the grand scheme of things, ain't none of us. Oh, it's just that we so used to losing people in their twenties man, and you know, thirties. So by the time you get to be a thirty year old man um African American community, they're calling you right, And that's what I've done. You know, I outlive one of my sons. I outlive my mother and my father. So so that degree,

I've done it. You know, it's uh seven continents, I'm covering six, it's a hundred and nine countries. I'm over a hundred and forty seven and all the indies. So how to live life? Bro, like have it if they wanted to play them Corona games. I'm at peace, you know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. Yeah, So I know your phone going off, and you got a lot of ships you got going on, man, so we're gonna let you go on and do your thing, your daddy your daddy things. Man. Uh, I appreciate you

listening to you. I was telling norm how we have similar situations in life, but we handed them totally different in a different manner. But man, we appreciate your Joe Joe caphone and man, we might have to do it part what we're gonna have to do it part two because I know a lot of people are gonna get a kicked out of listening to what you got to shake and and uh, man, we appreciate you, man, Gangster Chronicles appreciate you. Shows. Man, you have a good day,

a happy birthday. And to talk to you again, brother, the look the Gangster Chronicles and both of y'all for having me James and still and uh, I'm sending him over those um for you now. And I'm gonna get the I'm gonna get the address to the shop where you can go in and get everything you need. Man, if day open, I'm going right to him. I'm on the call right now. And just to let just to let the people up there, No, Joe, Joe does have a podcast coming to Digital Soapbox Network, the Gun League

podcasts that are becoming soon. This coronavirus actually has the shows here with Hawsted right now, so so we should be getting nose shortly. But man, it's gonna be a beautiful thing. Is a beautiful thing. Man. Hears sex to hear wisdom. You know what I mean? We you know which is Raariness Day and Age Salute, so I'm about to send it to y'all now, all right, do you have a good one? All right, y'all too. Peace,