The Adam 22 Episode

My name is Alex Alonto from Street Gangs dot Com and I'm here with my co host James McDonald, and we got a guess and we're just gonna go straight into it. Man, we got Adam twenty two from No Jumper. What's up? Man? What's happening to? Big fan of the show? I don't know if you sawing. Nori told me about it on the podcast. Man, everybody d M me that day, man, literally, no joke, like fifty d m s within Like was

he serious? Did somebody tell him to say that? He just really like that was really out of the middle of nowhere because I didn't even know about it yet at that point, So he was he was just amped up telling me about the podcast he funk with. So I took his recommendation. But I also I'm a person who only finished watching The Wire, like a year ago or less than a year ago. So when he said it's a podcast, it's like The Wire that that got

to me. I was like, I'm excited for The Wire is probably one of the best television shows in the history of television. I mean, you go back and binge watching Man once you started. Once you're on episode one, you ain't gonna stop. It's it was actually a cop X game member and it's your classic gangsters and robbers

and police. But it's dope because it shows like from the real perspective of the cops and the perspective of like and the first episode the first season is like the crack dealers in the hood, but then they get into like the people working on the docks who are dealing with corruption. In that sense, it deals with a lot of different crime. It's not just like because I remember I was telling Crocodi about it and he was like, man, He's like, I grew up around all that bullshit. I

don't want to watch a show about that. And I was like, I feel you. But then I got the second season, two, season three, I'm like, damn, he Actually he might be missing out a little more than anythings, because it's not just like straight up like this is is the Hood the whole time? You know, Yeah, well, but just cinematically, it's great to watch it takes place I believe Baltimore, right. So yeah, man, Um, I've been

messing with Nori for over ten years. He's been following me on Street Gangs dot Com for years, so I wasn't surprised. Nori pretty much likes everything I do. When I see him, he quotes me on things that I've said, so he loves street ship. He was definitely a Street Gangs fan. We gotta give a shout out to him because I was shocked to hear that on on on your your podcast and the way he was talking. We only him. We owe him a flight he missed. He

missed the flight listening to Games the Chronicles. Oh yeah, yeah yeah. He told him, you don't know how to download it to your phone and listen to it on the plane, right, Yeah, he was getting the name. I was like, Damn, Buntry is my brother. I'm mom James Buntreal and Timmy Route. We're brothers. Reggie Wright and Alex and Linzo, but he knew you. Yeah, so that's the

only name he didn't get wrong. Well, he did kind of mess me up a little bit, But yeah, I met Nori back in two thousand eight here in Los Angeles and we've kept in touch over the years. But I know how he felt when he said he missed flights because you ever been in your car and you get to your destination but your favorite song is still playing. She don't get out. You wait till that song is over, and then you go to your destination. So I guess he caught that on one of our great episodes of

The Gangster Chronicles. But what's up, Adam? I mean, you got you got all all the great guests over there on your show. You know you got. You had Nori at forty Glock yesterday. Man, I had a lot of from Colton, Yeah, Colton City Crib Yeah, c c C. I learned a lot about, you know, as somebody who was just a straight rap fan until like the age of thirty two, I never even had a rapper on my phone. It's like it's just been a crazy fast education to like meet so many of the people that

I grew up listening to and ship. You know that he got into a shootout with the police before, and he told me all about that one, and they didn't even press charges on him. I mean, you gotta listen to the enemy, I guess if you want to hear the story there. But he said that they didn't press charges on him. Now, he actually his lawyer hired me, wants to help him with his case because I do consulting on gang cases. So that's how I met forty o'clock.

He had a case out in Colton. They needed an expertise, my expertise, and I came in and I learned all about him. I think that was in ninety six. He literally got into a shootout with the police. So how did he beat it? I don't remember the specifics of that case. I mean that ninety six how many years ago? Was at twenty four years ago? You seem like he

still didn't really understand a hundred percent. But basically, the cops shot him and then and then took off from the scene of the crime and like left him and they ended up catching up with him later and he just got shot in the legs. So he was all right, this is what he told me yesterday. But like he was just saying that. Like they ended up not pressing charges, probably because the cops behavior was so inexplicable. Or did he looked back then he shoot back at the cops

or is it just the cops shooting him? I think the cops showed up when he was already in the middle of a gang shootout. But there was like He's like this neighborhood had shootouts like every day, over and over, so I don't Yeah. I also had that interview go though.

That was dope. You know, it's like just to be able to you know, actually I got to give Glad the tip of the hat because to a certain extent, like these old stories that we never wouldn't necessarily thought would be so valuable from a you know, viral level or whatever. It's like, you know, you you are under percent of beneficiary of that where it's like a lot of the stories that you might not even realized would

be so huge on YouTube and ship. You realize that these little stories that just give you a little bit of detail about death row or pock or whatever, it is like gold to a lot of peers out there. Myself ain't the only one doing it, right. I feel like he through being so shameless kind of like helped usher that into a on YouTube to a certain extent, because he's not scared to just ask the craziest ship. You know, what do you mean by that shameless part? Uh?

You know it's like to a certain extent, I feel glad sometimes he runs the risk like pissing off his guests by going so hard with the titles and ship like by just being so or just having people and you know, he has a certain reputation because he's will have people in and ask him like about all the ship that to a certain percentage of people just don't want to talk about and stuff like I always think about that because if you have somebody on you could

you could go straight for the gut, you know, straight for the story that is the craziest fucking story that's gonna get a million views, or you know, it's all

about your interviewing style. Sometimes I feel like I have a hard time just going straight forward that because I want people to feel comfortable, and I end up and just some of those a lot of questions written down that I don't even end up wanting to ask because I guess had X rated on well that's why you you like, I just did you when you come in here and I asked everybody you tell you what do you not want to talk about? So we don't have to cross that line. But if I ask you a question,

then the doors is open for it. Then that's what you're here for. You know what I'm saying, Like when I can went on, Lad, I'm here to answer your questions. So I'm a grown ass man. I can tell you no, I don't want to talk about that. You know, let's say that for something else. You know what I'm saying, because everybody knows some things are to be I mean, you could say some ship, but some things ain't supposed

to be talked about. You sorry to cut you up, but you might have talked about it, Lad, but now you don't want some other motherfucker asking you about it. You like, I just did an interview telling this crazy story. It's kind of rude for you to ask me to just reiterate the same exact story. You know you're gonna be live. You know this story is gonna get out. That's what you're going on, black Folk, and you know he's gonna put it on YouTube so you can avoid

asking anything, I don't have to asker that. I'm here to do an interview with you. So if Blad said I heard you killed your mother, I mean, just just the way a ship just uh you killed your mother, I don't have to answer that, but that motherfuck he answered it. You can't be mad at mad at Blad but for accident, and I askewed it. Where is he at that? When people get on this case for that ship, I don't think they realized that if you were to say, hey, like,

don't I want to talk about that? Or if it's especially if it's related to a case. That's the whole reason I can talk about everything. I don't axatly. When he came on against the Chronicles, I asked him the same thing before we started taping. Is it anything that you don't want to talk about? And I think that's only fair if you say no, guys, let me talk about whatever you want. In his case, I don't want to talk about Woo and I want to talk about so we didn't bring that up. So get your pad

and cross those two outs. But everything, you know what I'm saying, like asking you and you said you don't give a ship, So I got some questions, well before you ask your first question. I was just gonna say, I think in the hip hop world, Wendy Williams was really the first person to really ask those hard questions, those cutthroat questions, and a lot of people started to dislike her, you know, because I'm not going on Wendy Williams and Cala Main was born from her, and you

know he has that rap as well. But then then Wendy Williams transitioned to talk show host and went in to tell division and she was doing the radio thing before podcasts was even hot. So you know, I think that that style of interviewing and questioning in the hip hop world. I just think going back to her to run into the right person as my ship. You asked me something I don't want to talk about it, I ain't. I don't want to talk about that. Man, I don't

care how you interview gonna be. You ain't getting paid for these interviews, so why not. But sometimes you'll tell the interviewer I don't want to talk about this. I mean yeah, and they still ask, Like Barbara Walters was known for that. I don't know if you ever I've seen uh, Mike tyson go up on somebody for it. Yeah, I'm just like, yes, you ain't ship. But that's how you gotta be. I already told you I'm not answering that. Why would you ask me that here? So that's the

That's the thing. A lot of us, like me and you, I feel like we're probably the same way in the sense that like, you can ask me about the messiest bullshit that ever having in my life and I don't. I don't mind. But a lot of people are trying to present a carefully gheraded image of who they are to the public, so they don't want to talk about some messy situation. They're going, that's cool, But at the end of the day, how are you gonna get past

that ship unless you're willing to talk openly about it. Well, don't you find it ironic that Lad actually told us there's a couple of things that's off the table, even though you just said he's more cutthroat about it. But there's some things he didn't want to talk about. But yeah, but he does that to other people, but he don't want it done to him. But other people don't say, no, I don't want to talk about that. I don't want

to talk about this. Everybody on the platform should ask that person they're interviewing, do you mind if we talked about this? But when I went and did Glad, there was something that I said, you know, I don't want to talk about this very specific thing, and he asked me about that. To his credit, you know, doing an interview is like having sex. You into what you're into. It's just both parties have to be involved, that have to be have to be on the same page. You know. Alright, James,

what are you gonna get into him? I forgot, but yeah, I wanted my first question and uh, last year, you're the robbery, right Uh. I was looking at this video and it was it was crazy. And when I first thought my first thought about you being robbed, I thought this was gonna be a black dude, you know, just over you like bam. Right, this this guy that robbed Jews. I mean when he asks for he said, keep me

all your mother money or some ship like that. He said, it all crazy and like, you know, before I even knew what was going on, my friends beat the ship out of him and kicked his head and stuff. I believe that if you were to like describe his type that it would have been just like basically a crazy ass, like lunatic while at school, shooter type kid. Like, it became very clear to me, this was not like a gangster,

this is not a street dude. When did you realize that, dude, I'm I mean, once he realized the gun was fake, Once he realized like, because you know my dudes, looked through his phone and realized that he didn't even have any text for like weeks at a time, and Ship, I started to like paint the picture of us. I went through my d m s through to his Instagram account and saw that he had DM me dozens of

times and I never responded. I started to paint the picture for me of like, oh, this is a kid who's maybe really depressed and stressed out and like suicidal type ship, And he knows that I'm doing interviews and that he's thinking maybe maybe I don't know, maybe he was on drugs. Maybe he thought that he would be able to get some kind of like cloud like people would respect him or like him because he did this.

I don't really know, but I definitely wanted a tough guy. Wow, well he had enough balls coming in and try to rob you. You did with a fake gun. I don't know what he thought was gonna happen, but you think he thought he was gonna just keep us all hostage in there? Well? Where did this happen at? Actual studio? Yeah, right on Melrose. Like, I used to do interviews at the back of my bike shop, and now we have

a different space that we do interviews out of. But this was just in the back of the shop, so there's only one door really to like enter an exit. And my guy had gone out to get the Uber eats and I came back in and right before you locked the door, this dude just slips in. He had been like lurking in the back, you know. And I got a mad question for you once your dude knocked him out. Why you didn't stump the ship out that cat? I never even hit him because my guy, That's what

I'm saying. When I stopped them out, I don't know. I wasn't mad, and I wasn't like, I mean, I was freaked out. I was confused. I think the first thing I said into the microphone because I'm on stream so you can see that, I think the first thing I said the microphone was why didn't he shoot me? You know, because it's like if he had a mission that he came in there to do. I thought he was gonna actually carry it out, but apparently it was

all for show. I don't know if he could have possibly been in a clear state of mind and thought that he was about to have five people held at gun point? Was the first time and the good don't you like that? Yeah? Yeah, so I know you was like, oh what the everybody gave me someone schip? Is that giggled? I was like yeah, and I'm saying, Okay, he's scared. You're nervous because you're looking at it and at that

point you don't know it was a fake gun. And I'm going like this like trying to create room between which it wasn't working. It wasn't working if he didn't pop, I'm trying to get hit in the hands. Yeah, so the head whatever it happened to the guy. Um, I don't know, because like they actually called me and had me go to court because you know that it's it's not like I have to press charges. They just have

their own case against him or whatever. And I actually got up at six in the morning went sat in court with this guy because he was there too, for like five hours, and then they ended up just dismissed. Not dismissing the case, but they basically said like, oh, they're not gonna do it today. You don't have anything to do, and you don't have to come back the next time he has a court date. So I really have no idea what's gonna happen to him. By the way,

his name was David Tran. He was four years old, and he was charged with second degree robbery because they found the gun was fake. I guess how did that work? Got like, um, first degree just coming in there with a pistol, Well, it'd be armed robbery. So this would be a strong arm robbery if it's a fake gun. Um, but he can still get prosecuted for it. But if they don't have to witness there none of strong arm attempting robbery. Um, Yeah, I don't know how that's gonna work.

Without you wouldn't call that attempted murder. People get because his lawyer will say that that guy never had any intention of killing because he came in with a fake gun. It's definitely attempted robbery and strong arm attempted robbery if it's a fake gun, but there may be some other fake gun charges that I'm gonna aware of. I don't know.

They're not keeping me up to date on maybe well, if they've just kind of told you don't come back anymore, they're probably not even gonna really pursue that guy then, right, It's so weird too, because like the only reason I felt it was necessary to keep going is Number one, I know other YouTube type famous people that have had all kinds of weird ass s. Soccers go to their house and just show up ten times, and I've had dudes tell me that they didn't press charges the first time,

or they didn't follow up with the court dates or whatever, and the dudes kept coming back. So that kind of freaks me out. And then also it's like I had so many people that thought that ship was fake, including like the cops called me at one point and the cop goes, are you familiar with Jesse Smollett's case, And I'm just like yes, I'm like yes I am, but no, this is not that He's basically warning me, like, if you're trying to trick us, you're gonna get a lot

of trouble. I'm not you know, why would I lie about Oh they were trying to say you were with this guy? Yeah, I'm like, why would I be in cahoots with him? And then like he probably got like a terrible head injury from getting his fucking dome kicked in. You know, well if if they thought it was fake. But I'm sure that general, that video must have got at least a million views. Huh. Yeah, And I'm on all kinds of weird news to shows, people having me

on their podcasts, all kinds of ship. But I mean, ultimately it actually was kind of weird because I didn't really have to deal with any negative side effects. Like I didn't get hurt. I didn't you know, dreams like Funk could have got killed freaking outsd right, you know once did you just like like sitting there and just like, man, I could have just if this was real, I could

have been killed. I'll say this though, is that I saw a kid hit his head on a skateboard the other day and he was knocked out for twenty minutes, and then the ambulance came and took him and he

was still knocked out. That has me way more fucked up than this guy putting a gun in my face, because I feel like I saw a kid died the other day and his dad has been him and me back and saying that he ain't he might be, he's gonna be all right whatever, But like, I don't know, it didn't really ever impact the way I was moving around that much. You know. It's it doesn't feel like, oh I got these tough as gangsters that are looking for me or whatever. It was just like, oh damn,

this is one psycho kid, you know. All right, Well, I wanted to talk a little bit about your partnership with Dame Dash and any updates on that. How's that going? You and him, I guess agreed to do a podcast together? Yeah, we were doing We did a few different podcasts. I think we did my initial interview with him and then

three additional interviews. I don't know. I mean, Dame is an interesting guy, but at the end of the day, is I think I felt like I really wasn't making any sort of headway and figuring him out or getting

closer to having a real rapport with him. So I don't know, Like myself, on a personal level, I've been kind of falling back on doing as many interviews, and I say that I'm doing like four interviews this week, but I've been falling back on it a little bit just to get, you know, be able to focus on more of the business, the stuff that my production team

is producing at this point and stuff. So I'm taking a break from that for sure, But I mean being part of the Dame universe is definitely informative for sure. And a little bit about you. You publicly said you paid them for the interview I did, and normally, I mean I've do interview I've been doing an interviews for ten years. I've never paid a person because I feel

that crosses the line of ethics and journalism. He said it was for the for the driver and the haircut, So I was like, you live in luxurious like that? All right? Fuck it. I really wanted to meet this motherfucker, so I was down for that one. Normally, though, like anytime I've had models try to charge me a hundred dollars just for their time and makeup, I'm like, no, no, no, no no, no no. But do you think we're moving into that area now where we gotta pay to do

interviews now? Because I guess we're in this social media atmosphere. I mean, I'm scared of it because, like, people like me and you have been doing content with no budget from the ground up for so long that it's scary to see how many celebrities hopping into the podcasting thing and thinking like, is there a future in which a lot of the organic, smaller YouTube type creators get basically

pushed out though by the big names. Not that I think that will ever entirely happen, because I think that, you know, the big corporations will never be able to document the you know, streets ship like you do, or document some of the underground people like I do, or whatever. But sometimes you just see these bigger and bigger names getting into the podcast in space or the YouTube space, and you're like, damn, is there really going to be

any room left for the people who came up from nothing? Okay, now that I mean, I mean, I mean, I got a question you do this ship is your livelihood Is you're making money off of the stuff that you're bringing in the people that you're interviewing. Why is it hard or why would it be a problem to pay the person that you're going to do an interview with I'm giving you my life story. Take my instance, I got thirteen million, Yeah, you got the mo use bla. That's

a lot of money made. And you don't think that I would be worth man at the at the outcast then on this you don't think I'm worth I mean, if you if you just said people find I did, I did well off. Your interviews are interviewing somebody such as that person that you know you're gonna do goodbye? Why not paying? Lad said that he's paid people because he knew that you know, he wasn't gonna get the interview otherwise, and that he felt cool about it. I didn't.

I don't know. I mean, those are your options. Every situation is different. Those are your options. If you don't want to pay me, move on to the next person. But you can't assume that every video is gonna make

money because YouTube can demonetize like percent. I bet you get a lot of videos demonetized, which means get so much money that video makes nothing and a lot of especially if it's the one that has the title that's like so and so talks about having to shoot out with so and so and all of a sudden, the best title is the one that ain't gonna make any money. Yeah, so that's one reason why, because it's not guaranteed that

the content creator is gonna benefit from that. Okay, So should should the interviewer take taking upon himself to say I made thirty dollars off off your video? He goes after the fact, I mean something because y'all are making the money. You know what I'm saying, Like, we're sitting here doing this free. We put this on YouTube. We we were gonna get a check for it. You know what I'm saying. Why shouldn't you get a kick? Why shouldn't we come to you and say we did good?

Because you're just looking out for If I take my time out to come and deal with you, take your time out to say, man, I did real well off that one, then I'm gonna come back. Oh no, I'm coming back to with you because you're keeping it one hunted. Yeah. But a big part of the issue is that there's not that much money and it's not that consistent. You know, like that thing that rich I did great on that one.

You're rich rich Man. But I know that if even I do an is all the time that I don't make five off you know on YouTube don't make sense for most. Well, that's why I wouldn't make a phone call and say you go three hunting, because why would I give you three d only make five? But James, you also benefit from being on the platform like lad because you get your face and your name out there. You've got people now wanting to do business with you, so that it's a two way street. Yeah, but that's

that's not why I did it. I'm not looking for a new fame. I'm not looking for nothing. I'm here to tell you my story. I might as well just sit back and write a book. I don't say nothing, But that's the ways, because you want people to hear what you got on your chest. But even if you write a book, you're gonna have to go promote it, and you're gonna go and you all kind of ways, all kind of ways. I'm just saying. I'm not saying. I'm saying. The reason why it's it's not a great

economic model to pay for it. Every person that you interview, because if I pay you, then the next guy says, we just paid James, you're not gonna pay me a little something. Well, you're not James. But that's what you should wait and see what it does. If it do get a yeah, that's what you shouldn't go too. Does business like that? You know, just make some money with because somebody and then you're like, hey, I'm gonna throws because you were there when I made this million good

it would be really nice. I just never really knew, my motherfucker. Just think of the dope man who happened to make an extra couple of racks off, and then it goes back to that's a difference. Hey, I made a little extra, here's something for you that ain't gonna happen that that. It's totally on. That's totally up to you. How you share you doping all that ship. I'm just saying if if I mean I'm getting paid here, you

know what I'm saying. So if Black would have said, Okay, I got you, no problem, because men, I'm good, I'm I'm being on this show next week. You know you expect you expect him to give get nineteen million views. No, I don't know. That's it's over and done. But that's why I'm speaking on it now. Now. If I go up there and set wins and he said, James, I did do good off your show here, you know what I'm saying, unlike one person, Greg Katie and and he didn't do it for the show. It was my birthday,

but he gave me. He looked out for me because it was my birthday. And I'm gonna I'm gonna say that because after I did this show, he made what eight hundred and some thousand views off of that when he did Yeah and that that interview, that Kating interview put you on the map to do the lad interview and then got me the straight You got me Gangster Chronicles the whole now. But guess what's gonna happen to me when I called Dame Dash and say hey, I

want to interview for Street Gangs or Street TV. What's he gonna say to me? He's gonna say, hell no, who are you? No, He's gonna say, um, five hundred dollars or six hundred dollars. I'm like, why, oh, well, Adam gave me five hundred dollars, why not? Why not you? And I'm gonna be like, all right, what did you know? He worked for the I don't think he's worth it. You don't think I don't think any interview, and from from my perspective, there's no interview worth paying money for.

From a journalistic perspective, it's just not worth it. You know what. The funny thing when Dame asked for that five hundred, I took it as throughout my whole life of dealing with dudes from the hood, a dude from the hood will be very smart about being able to feel you out for exactly what you are willing to give up and like ask you for it, like you know, you know how. This is the dude who will ask you for a dollar or five dollars outside the corner

store or whatever. I saw that as Dame literally he don't probably don't need five hundred dollars, but he knew I would give him five hundred dollars. He didn't ask for two thousand. I might. I really probably would have said no to two thousand. He asked for the exact right amount that I would give him, and he got it. You're a smart guy, and there's done wrong with that.

And you know what, if you hit up Glad and said, yo, let me get a stack before I come and do this interview, he'd probably be like, all right, Oh, he definitely will do it. I just don't think you're you're not as conniving as dam as to like think about like I bet I get motherfucker. I'm I'm like this. If I come one time, if I come two times, and you know it's good, then I think you should be willing to look out for that person that's that's

that's actually putting money in your pocket. Well, someone like lad who's willing to pay, will definitely pay you to come on there next time. I don't see Black Wednesday and I'm not tripping off you know, really not tripping off of it. But then I say, damn, we made all that I made, you know what I'm saying. So it's it's it should just throw the air like that, And that's how I'll be feeling. But doing this podcast, man, it made me realize and see a lot of ship.

You know, it's politics and this ship. You know what I'm saying. Do everybody that got these platforms is getting paid, But you gotta be willing to look out for the people that's that's getting your platform up here. I will say that. I'm just I can tell you this, No one interview makes or breaks the platform that's where I'm speaking on the people in photo people, but go ahead

and at him. I was just gonna say that, Like, from my perspective, if I had never made any of the YouTube money, it still would have been worth it for me to do all these interviews because I got a name off it, I got a lot of respect off of it. I met a fucking shipload of people that I probably made a lot of money that I don't even trace it back in my head to the podcast.

Like my motivation when I started doing podcast was literally like I live in l A and I don't really know nobody, and I'm trying to meet you know, I was in the BMX world. I'm running bikes making BMX videos for ten years, twenty years, and like it was that was my whole life. But BMX has a promise it's his own world, Like it's not really communicating with the outside world that much. None of the bike rider dudes that I knew knew any rappers or knew anybody

from hip hop publication or anything like that. So that's really why I started doing podcast, is like I want to just have a good excuse to meet people and to be and I knew that just from meeting people that I'd be able to form some connections that would give me where I was going. You know. And there's a few rappers that you're the first one to interview him. Guess who guests one of the rappers. He's the first one to interview. He's the first one to interview this rapper.

We talked about him on the show many times. Unbelievable, Nah, not too pop your boy Takashi sixth Oh my god, you got the first to Kashi sixth nine interview, right, the realist rapper of all turn. Let me ask you this, when you when you were interviewing these rappers and you're listening to these guys in the hip hop world, do you be do you ever think like this cat is full of ship? Not saying it, but just look interview year was that when you got him? Shit? I think

it was or something. I mean, I knew him even before that, because I a should remember that when I met him had I think fifteen thousand followers we did that interview, he had I think sixty thousand followers, and I remember the next day, twenty four hours after he did the interview, he had seventy thousand followers, and then I was like, oh ship, this dude is really he's going up fast. But I mean I knew he was

full of ship. To be honest, It's like the more and more interviews that I do, the hard her it is sometimes to do an interview with a rapper like him who is all bullshit and glitz and polish and hair diving. I bet you never thought he would be on the Breakfast Club though. I never thought he would be saying he was a blood. I never thought he would be on the Breakfast Club. I never thought a

lot of ship, you know. I never thought he'd be beefing with y G. You did one interview with a guy named Cass Yeah, and he was in the same motorcycle club as I. Oh yeah, just listening to just just listen to how people you know put theirself here, okay me personally keeping one hunting and you will stay

right here. Ain't nobody that big and getting down like that, and then sitting at the table at the round table, stopped putting too much on certain things, and and it wouldn't be I wanted to come on your show so bad when he came on there. But then she get all together I know I'm getting an email from him about this. Well, I went through the club and you know, getting at the president in the Nationals and some of the club brothers to tell him to leave, stop talking

about Reggie, let it go. But he just kept on and kept on. So I couldn't tell Reggie to stop. Reggie winning many times, many times, but he went in on him so hard. I think it he backed up. I think has backed up off of how hard Reggie and it seemed like he disappeared, it was all over with and then now he's coming back. So by Reggie again, Reggie is gone, you know what I'm saying. So I know he'll be back on your show. And he called this ship something else now and ain't too many people

watching him because Reggie. It's like Reggie black Baldy was something. Reggie destroyed that they had this little internet online beef. And I'm gonna have to give Reggie the title for for that beef. Uh. He went in thoroughly went in on him, well, exposed basically the exactly the only it was easy because he was lying. The only thing I said he was lying about and I don't believe it's when he went in there with the fifteen Death Row members, and he went and took tupac shit. For number one,

it ain't gonna happened like that. You beat the Reggie and Ship at the same time, then you went and went through fifteen cats just you three. Hey, A lot of people don't understand how Death Row was man and how vicious it was. And I can give you names of every motherfucker, but I ain't that that worked for Death Row. And they was all vicious, all penitentiary cats, and all of them been in penitentiary more than four

or five times. All of them was over to forty two fifty muscle muscle, and I'm talking about all that didn't give a fuck, worked for a bonus. If I get this cat, they know they got a bonus. If I knock out this cat, they got a bonus. And I didn't see him going nowhere around Death Row and and and taking it down like that. M I didn't see that. So it was like, did you get any feedback from that CAS interview after you did it? Negative feedback about because he did say some very outlandish things

in that interview. I don't know. I feel like I might have been checked out on the feedback to it. Sometimes I feel like I get you know, obviously it could get a little complicated. I'd be interviewing people. I definitely had Whack on the phone with me the other day, not happy about him being a frequent topic of conversation with a lot of people I've been interviewing lately. You know, it's always it's always complicated, but you know, to a certain extent, I just kind of stay out of it,

right right. Well, we went into that that big Cas issue in depth on a previous episode of The Gangster Chronicles. I think if you go back to around episode twenty for those of you who are new to The Gangster Chronicles, you can learn some more about the beef that Reggie Wright Jr. And Cars had online. How much check that out? I need to. It was for real. And then I'm you know, my old thing is I wrote motorcycles with him.

He came to he started at my chapter in Vegas, and I'm thinking, I'm not I know this guy, and why would he say something like that? Why is he talking like that? Me and him never discussed me working with death or being you know, homeboys would shoot, none of that. You know, he was always cats from the sixties or I've been to prison. You can look at him to say, Okay, you probably have you tat it,

YadA YadA. But you know, I just think some people just just go a little over with it, you know what I'm saying, and not knowing who you really fucking with, who you talking to, and who you know, so you quick to speak on ship and all these people know

the same I'm talking about. I'm always fascinated by like the gang ship and the motorcycle ship touching because like where I'm from in the Northeast, Like I ain't really like blood and crips and fucking New Hampshire and Boston and ship as far as I know, but the motorcycle do is all the scariest dudes where I'm from. For sure. We was in one of the prettiest, roughest in California to chosen few, Okay, we we we had our share of bullshit b as the whole nine, and we rode

out bikes like we didn't give up about nothing. Yeah, so we're gonna have to talk about that one time. I mean, Laconia, New Hampshire is where they do the bike races or whatever. It always you wouldn't know because you would see a thousand motherfucker's on Harley's coming down the highway at the same time that she was crazy. Growing up. I'm surprised at how many police officers are actually in a lot of these motorcycle clubs. Yeah, well me personally, and you couldn't. You were cool, but you

ain't gonna be in my circle. Because when I was in the motorcycle club and and we had police officers in Vegas, Hey, hey, what's up? We called you, But father has been in my circle. Now you can't. You can't open the club right here. You ain't gonna open the club over there. So but right now to day, they're all cool and they and they all all accepted. Everybody deal with him. You know what I'm saying. Police

are just like us, man. But just in two thousand eleven, the Chosen Few were part of a police takedown investigation. Always Ship Always We was on a hunt in and eight right down the street from the police station and Chosen you've been there for a long time. You had guys, one of my brothers standing up at the gate and popping off his pistol. You know what I'm saying. And This is what they had to deal with on that block.

You know, our laws don't give a fuck. So you had all these guys standing out on the park I do on the sidewalk, smoking weed, drinking, the the noise, the music on the bikes, and they got tired of it. So you know, some brothers was getting raided and going to jail. They started finding the drugs and all that other ship. So we had to shut that that that club I was down, and the trouble just followed. My my chapter had issues. You know, a cat was killed.

You know in my chapter. He was one of my club brothers, and and he wasn't crazy, he was his army cat, and he really had problems. And ship happened, and you know, the police were just on us. It was just on this. Eventually, Cas was either kicked out or left chosen. You know what, I ain't gonna say kicked out. I think he did what idea, walked away because the bullshit just continued, you know what I'm saying. And now that they ain't taking off or shooting at

this motorcycle club, we're doing each other. Now. I just left that type of ship, so it's time to go. I'm not going to prison behind no half of punks or nothing else. So it was time for me to go. But I mean, it's it's it's something totally different than what it what it used to be. My powers was a chosen people for forty years. You got forty years in the same club. So children definitely go back to the forties and fifties. But back to the you know,

he's in the news today. He's trying to get out, trying to get out right now. So why I didn't let him out. Well, he's still got to do is twenty four months, which will have him out in July of but he's trying to get out earlier than that. He's blood is gonna ki him ji, Yeah, he said. The lawyer fouled the motion said, it's it's unsafe for him. Even though he's in a private he's in a private federal prison. If you look him up on the BP website,

he doesn't come up. They put him in a private facility that you can't even see his name, you can't even see when his release date is. I feel like when you got the million dollars lawyers, that they're just doing whatever they can that might have a tiny chance of getting you out or whatever. So they're just making up some bullshit trying to get him out of there, even though he probably doing that for the money, because yeah, I found this motion for you's gonna cause you forty grand.

Every every motion they found, they're getting paid for it. I said on this show a couple of weeks ago that even though July is twenty four months as a release date, you'll probably get out sooner than that from taking advantage of a federal program or like this lawyer is trying to file emotions for him to come home now, and they might have to let him out because he worked for the government. He gave them what they wanted, and now he's saying, hey, I don't want to be

in here. It's not safe. They there's a whole bunch of them that did that, and they got places for motherfucker's that told on the next cat they're gonna put you in the old somewhere and shut you on the yard with He just want to go home. No, hey, no, you he's gonna get out sooner than July. No, you shouldn't. You shouldn't. I already going back to New York. If he go back to the Bronx. Then, man, it's all watered down. I mean, the whole thing is that when he was because I think about it, I got a

store on Melrose. We interviewed this motherfucker when he's like basically nobody. Less than a year later, he is sucking down Melrows with like nine fucking security guards, like three thousand pounds worth of men around this motherfucker. He got real cops with guns and ship like, and you know, by that point that actually was a reasonable security precaution,

Like there really were a million I've had. People won't tell me, but people tell me, like yo, like people were really like this dude was really driving around like looking for him, blah blah blah. This dude's crazy, you know. I mean, I just wonder what that's gonna look like when he gets out, Like is he gonna like how is he gonna be able to get by with that amount of security? Does he need that? Like this has been bizarre. Well, in Brooklyn, he's definitely gonna need it.

But I think he can come to Hollywood and pretty much he's such a dickhead if he stays in Brooklyn, like at least go out to Long Island is something you don't think you're gonna be able to come here. He had to fight an r A X one time. Yea, who the l he ain't he ain't, he ain't gonna do that? And now who whoever? W do you tell

him you can't hang out like that no more? I wonder what his attitude is going to be, because if I were him, you know, you can go get a house in Miami with a bunch of security or something and get away from everybody. But I don't know if he's got the if he's humble enough to realize maybe

you shouldn't be around all the hot spots. You got a chance of getting the first interview of him when he gets out, if you would take it, if you do it, because he don't sunk with me at a certain point, because I just kind of stopped talking to him, like we we did that interview, and then he tried to hit me up a few times, and I wasn't really working with him, and I think he always like I didn't like the fact that I like embraced him enough to do that interview, but I kept my distance

because you know, I just thought he was a fucking dork, you know, so if you got that, would you do an interview? I would do the interview, but I'd be hyper hyper critical. It's not gonna be a nice interview. It's gonna be like, let's talk about all this bitch as like you know, we're really gonna have to talk

about it. Like I feel like he would rather go do an academics interview because academics is a friend of me, and you know, like because Takashi sapped me being cool with me, like just because I didn't I didn't like fully accept him. You know. I did the interview, but I knew him for like six months before I did that interview, and he was hitting me up NonStop for

the interview, and I was ignoring him. I only did the interview because he had that song popping off a trippy red and he was like just starting to actually really get popping, and I actually felt like all people are working with him. So I did the interview, but then I didn't really like embrace him like that, and then he after that he never acknowledged me. Anything I

would say about him. He wouldn't respond because I think he knew that like once he got really big that any sort of interaction with me would only help me, So he never would even respond when I wasn't like going crazy talking about him, but I would say, honest that shit about him. I would never get a response because I think he knew that, like just by talking with me, that would be like a gift, because he was so big that he was just anybody who had anything to do with him was getting the hell of

followers and etcetera. You know, you don't think he'll come out more humble this time, considering he's an informant. He's gotta walk on eggshells. He's gotta be careful where he goes. I've never seen a rapper come out and do a good job of like represent in themselves after they go and do a bunch of hot shting courts. So I

don't know what the fund is gonna look like. I'm excited to see it from like a you know, from like a perspective of a guy who like watches movies and watching this six nine movie unfold in front of us, and I'm just interested to see, like how can he possibly pull this role off? So I don't know, I don't see it happening. Getting out of jail, sitting at a table, pointing and telling you got cash doing twenty years you got the homies is in the beds because

of you. You can't go back to Yeah, you can't go back in that circle. You go back in this circle. One of those guys gonna do something to you. Man. And and I hove that little boy. Go buy has been Just go somewhere and find another place. And and don't be childish with this one because when you get out, he's gonna have to go somewhere. But it ain't right. There ain't nobody that humble. Well, that guy Alpo, I don't know if you're familiar with Alpo from back in

the eighties. He came back to New York, came back to Harlem. This guy told on a whole bunch of people, but he kind of kept yeah, keep it love. He kept a low profile, but he definitely showed himself to say I'm here. But he's careful about how he moves. But you know, his his crimes are what twenty five years ago? Twenty years ago. So a lot of those

dudes are probably not around anymore. But let me remind everybody that you're listening to an episode of the Gangster Chronicles and if you listen to us on Apple Podcast, please dove for us a rating and review one to five, five being that you love the show. And for those of you who don't have iTunes or Apple, we're on

Google Play and um and Spotify as well. And don't forget that video portions of this show are available on the Digital Soapbox Network YouTube channel and that those are produced by Smooth Cut Productions and Adam what's next for you, man, We're just getting into a lot more sophisticated, advanced content that goes beyond just the interviews. That's how I would describe it. Like basically we're working on like what our

version of the news looks like. We got a partnership with Snapchat that we're working on where it's basically going to be producing a lot of like news and conversation about news on a level that we haven't done so far, and just trying to you know, we're moving into a new space, just trying to really like reevaluate and like I just did a week off in Mexico, just laying

on the beach, just thinking about my content. And I came back and I was like, you know, we were doing the thing where we were posting were posting music video on the channel for a couple of thousand dollars, right. I was just I can't. I was sitting there on the beach. I'm like, I don't want to do that bullshit anymore. You know, it's not worth it, like just to make thirty dollars a month off of posting music videos.

But I don't feel good about looking at my YouTube channel and knowing that there's a bunch of ship on there that people just paid to be there, you know. I was just like, I got back from the thing and I'm like, you know, I don't give a funk about the money, and we're not doing that anymore. I want every time somebody sees a piece of content go up on on the YouTube channel, I want them to

really know that's something that we believe in. Because some of those videos, you don't even probably like them, I don't even probably watch them. Watch how many subscribers do you have to get before you start getting the attention from corporate America? You mentioned Snapchat and other other groups. I don't know. I mean, we're at three point two million, but I mean I always had, you know, different levels of attention and stuff. Even when I had a couple

hundred thousands subscribers. You know, I was having you know, but there's so much you gotta say no to everything. You know, you gotta just keep saying no. It all the cornina ship that people try to throw you. In the beginning, I remember there was just a TV producer, dudeho came to me. He wanted to do like a reality show about my store of my life and ship. And I was, you know, I'm talking on and stuff. I'm like, I'm kind of agreeing to at least enter

into some preliminary talks and ship. He's like, all right, I gotta come by your show. I gotta take some pictures of you. I'm like allright. Bet. He goes, um, can you take your shirt off? I'm like no. He's like why not. I'm like, because I ain't doing that gass ship. I ain't taking my fucking shirt off for a photo in my own bike shop. And I'm just thinking, I'm like, holy sh it, this is what corporate America

tries to do to you. They just try to make you the most bastardized, lamest version of who you actually are because they don't understand who you are, and and it's not like you know, in context, it's all kind of I see rappers walking down Melrose with no shirt on all the time. But you know, for me, I'm not gonna go beat and especially I was fatter than so I really didn't want to take my shirt off. But like you know, it's just like all the corporate ship.

Like I was, I was listening to Joe Buddy. He's talking about he turned down ten million dollar deals first podcast on the Ship. I'm like, that's that's beautiful. That to me, if you can get to the point where you believe in the ship that you're making so much that you can turn down ten million dollars, Wow, that's

a beautiful thing. And I have so much respect for that, so much pride even just hearing that, knowing that somebody in this culture was in a position to turn down a big gas media company trying to give him that bag. You know, well, you recently posted the video if you're doing some of your BMX riding, and it seems like the people missed it. They really loved it. It seemed to me the reaction to that video was basically just saying, we don't like a lot of the other stuff you've

been posting at them. This is where, this is what we love. And that video got how many views? It's like a quarter million, but it's only in a few days. Yeah, that's pretty good, just for a couple of days, quarter million views. I think I forget that, Like, my audience is not an audience that only wants to see hip hop. I feel like they want to see the culture overall.

They want to see the BMX riding and the skateboarder and the graffiti and the the wild ass girls talking about that, porno movies and like all kinds of ship. You know. It's like, like people appreciate our content, I think when it gives them this like an overall fun experience of watching it. So that's a big part of I feel like in nineteen I just doubled down on doing interviews because I was like, you know what, I

make the most money doing interviews. Interviews of the thing that I can do the most of because I can go and do three four interviews in a day, and but at the end of the day, you know, I was getting turned out, like doing too many interviews I didn't give a shit about, but you know at the same time. You know that the other day I did forty Glock and O G. Maco Like I got three

million subscribers. A lot of my subscribers are not gonna give a funk about either of those people, But to me as a hip hop fan, they both have very very interesting stories, very interesting perspectives. I wanted to hear Forty talk to me about running down applies, which got exposed by Jamie Foxx. I don't know if you remember

the story. He just he pulled up on flies on like to test him about some ship I don't even know what it was, and plies ran and hitting the bathroom and locked the doors on the bathroom and like. But nobody ever knew until Jamie fox talked about it in an interview, Which is just so funny that Jamie Foxx is the reason that anybody even knows about forty

Glock doing some gamester shipped applies. But I mean, you know, I was just happy as fun to actually be able to ask him about that and get to hear is his version of that account, you know, Like, I mean, I just for me, I was like a hip hop fan. It's like I was trying not to get jaded from the fact that I just had so much fun talking to people about whatever. You like to interview gangster stuff

as well. I like it, not exclusively, and I definitely feel out of my depths a lot of times with that ship, because that's just not like where I'm coming from, you know. I always like ship when I got a security guard who just knows all the street politics in l A. That's the best is somebody you can just ask, like, so, what's up with those? You know? You interviewed a guy that I I got his first interview ever done, stupid

young That was a great kid right there. Yeah. I interviewed him like two thousand and thirteen before anybody kne who this dude was because he was like a different rapper and like two twelve, two thirteen, he was very much like Chicago influenced, like Chief Keith, like an Asian Chief Keith and Long Beach, and it was just something about him. I said, you know what, I'm gonna come down to Long Beach and mess with you. Um. I

like your swag, I like your style. And then I did a second interview with him, still nobody knew he was. He went to prison, got out I did the interview as soon as he got out of prison and did another interview with him, and then right after that he just blew up. Yeah, that ship was crazy because I lived in Long Beach about two three blocks from where he lived and where we filmed that video for from two thousand ten to like two thousand and thirteen. I

just lived over there. We lived in a big gass house with like ten thirteen BMX riders living under one roof. And yeah, and we were just out riding BMX every day. And I did not know that there was Cambodian gang wars going on around the corner. That's a little Cambodia. Um, James, what did you want to know? I wanted to talk about I've seen when I was doing my little little information thing. Who was Russ? Somebody like jumped you. You know they just say Russ right now? No, that'd be

that would be a fire story. Trustal Simmons wants to get me set up. Now. That was just basically like there's a rapper that we're cool. Now, we worked through ships, talked about or whatever. This is rapper Russ. He's like, uh was the Albanian so he you know, he's from Atlanta. He's cool, like he makes music is super popular. It's not. It's definitely not gangster music or anything like that. He's singing. He's like a lot of his fan bases, like college

kids and ship like that. And I was talking wild Shot about him for a while at the y well completely unrelated to to that, well related, but I didn't know. One day, randomly, I'm just sitting getting a manicure on the block of Melrose. I don't know if you've ever got your nails done, James, but no, you gotta try it. So I'm I'm sitting there get my nails done, and

I know where I'm knowing. I'm on Melrose, which is my block at that moment, and I got my hood on, and I'm just like, you know, facing away from the door so I can get my nails now. Much in retrospect, I probably should have been facing towards the door so that I could see the threat coming. But I thought if I was facing away from it, nobody would even

think that I was in there at all. And all of a sudden, I just here Adam twenty two, and I go like this, and there's some big black dude and he, oh, it just punches me in the head. You only like kind of hit me right here and didn't really like get me or anything. And then I think I got hit again on the top of the head, and then i'm you know, by the time I jump up, they're out. I didn't see anybody filming. I didn't have

any fucking clue. So I'm asking everybody I know in l a yo, like, who the funk has a problem with me? Who who would have done that? You know, nobody got any fucking answers. So when actually the guy he was talking about it was just people, it was yes. But then I didn't find that out for like a year, and randomly Russ is on DJ Academics his live stream and he said something like that, motherfucker, I'm twenty two got it too, and but like the stream fucked up

so you couldn't really hear exactly what he's saying. But academics hit me up and goes yo. Russ said this because the academics, I only told a couple of people that I got jumped. I told like x Lad and fucking academics, just like three random people I confided in that I just mentioned it too and hit me. He goes, Yo, that thing you told me about where you got jumped in in the nail salon. He's like, I think that was about the thing with Russ and I'm I started

thinking about it. I'm like, oh, man, that makes a lot of sense. And I started thinking about and at first I wasn't gonna say anything cause I'm like, nobody knows like I jumped, so I don't even have to say anything. Nobody even knows I got. I got punked up, and then I started thinking about more and more. I got mad and I was like, I just called him out. Me and him are arguing about it on Twitter or whatever.

But then actually Bootleg keV got us on the phone and we just kind of talked about it and ended up just sort of squashing it or whatever. I'll admit I was being a bully. I was going in on this motherfucker, and I didn't really have a reason to be doing it. So in retrospect, you know, I don't really like do that with rappers anymore. If if if there's a rapper, I don't like. I've just seen too many generations of young rappers coming up that even if there's

a rapper I don't like. I just kind of hold my tongue let him do his thing. Was up and coming rapper at the time. To be honest, he was already pretty established, like he's been big for a couple of years now, so but I definitely didn't think he was gonna send some hitters at me. So shout out to him actually, honestly for catching me slacking up. You think he tracked you down or it was just coincidental that you were at the same spot. I mean, to

be real, it was so stupid on my part. That was the worst day to be doing that because it was a day where we had an event where on social media you could tell that I was at my store all day, but when I was actually at the store, i'll be surrounded by a whole shipload of my people and everything. But then I actually snuck off by myself to go to the nail salon, which is stupid. I should have had one of my guys come with me.

I don't know what the funk I was thinking and thinking that I didn't need to have somebody come with me. But so do you move differently now since you had that incident and then you had the fake gun incident, right, James, You gotta be careful how you move. It's weird though. It's like I go everywhere just like, who would you come here with today? And I actually thought you just

gonna bring a bodyguard with you. I just don't. It's so hard for me to accept being famous, and I just don't want to admit it, you know, I just I'll go to rolling out and bring a bodyguard. Not even I don't even bring a bodyguard, bring my homie. It just happens to be a big fat guy from fucking Long Beach. You know. It's like, I just I don't fucking I don't know. It's like it's hard for me to really get into that mindset of thinking that somebody's gonna really want to suck me up. And I

don't know. I actually saw you in the airport about three months ago and we were in the same term. When I said, what's up at him? You didn't even look up at me. ACTU was like, all right, this dude is he's just not feeling it right now? Oh man, that sucks. Yeah. The airport's always a weird one. Yeah, you know, I'm just like sucking half out of my mind, like just trying. I always feel so ugly and like

hoodie up, just like I was with my girls. Somebody to ask her for a photo and I just see it in her eyes, like I'm supposed to be known for looking good on camera and you're asking me for a photo right now. But damn, I feel like I always like say what up to people? So my apologies if I didn't hear it or some ship now you heard it, you just didn't even look at me. It was early in the morning to was about seven seven eight am. Yeah, I don't do good like Adam and

feeling it right now. Yeah, that's crazy. I was probably just trying to go to the Hudson News. Oh yeah, gets now. I like the lemonade in the airport. That's the l a X thing if you know, you know no, um, I could smell the Roman air. James Jesus and uh, you're pretty big on your A big proponent. Is it fair to say you're a proponent of we cannabis here in California, legalization all that? Yeah, I mean I supported

all that. I'm just like a personal weed smoker, to be honest, I don't really feel like I'm all that up in the marijuana community necessarily start looking at your shows. And I seen you with this jar, and you from them with this jar. I said, like, mother, Now, why would I go animal because I don't smoke weed? Yeah, and he hid in the motherfucking He's gonna start smoking and stuff while we're talking, and then I'm gonna be

all twisted. You actually get high when you do your interviews sometimes, but right now the place where we do interviews, we can't smoke weed. And only two people have broken that role, which is blue Face, because I just you can't tell blue Face not smoke, and then uh, Nori, you can tell Nori not smoke either, so um our next space. Yeah, you know, it's important to me that our guests feel comfortable. For the most part, I'm not

really gonna smoke if the other person isn't smoking. But also like just a little bit, like I had this, I let this two times so far, and this is like not a lot of weeds. So it's like to me, it's just I don't know, I don't really feel all like stupid high right now. I don't know if I look stupid. Sometimes I see my pictures of myself at a festival or some ship, and I'm like, goddamn, I look high, like a lot of dudes don't really look that high. I'm fucking paleless, fuck in comparison to you

know a lot of people. I'm around him, so you could tell where my eyes are all pink, you know. I mean, I feel like black guys don't look as high when they high as fun, but they don't look pale either, you know. But I feel like me being pale. It's like my eyes turning mad pink and you can see it. I don't. I don't know. I couldn't feel like if you did, you you would hide it a

little bit better, you know. Well, I guess if you want on the show James, Yeah, I've watched him and um, what's the way they used to come and do the show with the spider Loke ship. There's smoke, black and just talking. Yeah, and he and I spied smoking. I'm talking about smoking. If I'm comfortable, I can do that. You know. If I'm a little nervous on edge, then I don't want smoke. Yeah, how is it doing it? Of? You? Though? High? And you know you gotta kind of have the flow going.

I mean, I'm smoking weed all the time anyway, so I don't really bother me. I guess, oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, you know, you know, like I just bring this up, is that one of the craziest titles that lad Ever did was a little Bibi All my friends were high when they got killed, which is like, yeah, all your friends are high all the time because everybody's smoking weed all the time. It's like, of course they

were high when they got killed. But it's like it's kind of like a weird framing for that, because it's like in reality, like I could say, you know, all my friends when they fucking broke their ankle, right and BMX were high too, because everybody I know right is smoking all the time. It's just kind of so you don't think you'd be a better being mixer if you wasn't smoking. I mean, hey, I wonder all the time if I would be a better a lot of things

if I wasn't smoking. I wonder if my girlfriend would be pregnant right now if I wasn't smoking. I wonder if fucking I'd be able to go longer on the treadmill if I wasn't smoking but about to be a weed. I mean as you feel like you have any kids already. Yet I've been shooting the club up and they worked yet though, yeah, nobody died. Now, I wasn't aware of marijuana because impact your ability to get a woman pregnant. That's what she keeps saying. But I think she's full

of ship. She doesn't smoke weed. He might have to fact check that on next week's episode. That's a great idea. It ain't gonna body. Why would it body? I have no idea, you know. I mean, it's still a drug, but it's allegedly it could lower your sperm count. But I mean you've got millions even if it lowers million sperm. That's what I'm saying. But you want the strong sperm. Yeah. I had one of the best comments I ever got was a girl tell me that my jis tasted like weed.

I'm like, is it? Is it inedible? Is it gonna get you stone or something? I thought that was incredible, But they believe that though I had one to hell, me drink a lot of cranberry juice and that's what you that's what you taste like. So it might be true. Man, we don't find up. We're in the process of making your own marijuana, putting together your own Yeah, we have

a no jumper strain in stores right now. It's been it's been slow, to be honest, you know, it's kind of weird working with people that I ain't worked with before and ships, So I don't really, I don't know. I'm not sure exactly what the future of it is. Well, they said there's big money and dispensariess and legally selling marijuana. Man, I've talked to some people who owned dispensaries of the amount that they pay on fucking security taxes, fucking all.

This ship is a while that because the city got involved, the government now has got involved. In the early days, you just just to go runt of space, create your own dispensary, have your security make all the money. I find it really interesting that they are giving some percentage of the licenses to run dispensaries to people who who

have served time because of marijuana related crimes. I know, I think that's a great thing because yeah, yeah, I'm almost just amazed that they're even working on that level, that they're actually being conscious of that kind of ship, because it seems like the weed space is kind of poised to be taken over by corporations. The government realizes that we can't criminalize marijuana use anymore, and for people who have been penalized for in the past, the should

be first in line to get a license to sell. Yeah, I think um freed Ricky Ross just got his license. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, that's a good thing. That's a good thing. What do you think about the legalization of marijuana, James, Hey, if you can make money off of it, and they see they can't stop it, so this's join them. But you know the government is going to have their hand in your pocket, boy, but they already in their pockets. We're going to one of these dispensaries ons like eighty

dollars for eight some of these places. It's almost better to just buy your weed off the streets, everybody, everybody, I know those a street dealer that comes through and something. The ship, but that's gonna be the weird ship is when they start because the legal grow operations they have

actual system. I don't know if it's actually been implemented yet, but where if you grow a pound of weed in that in that grow operation, and that weed is supposed to be so illegally that you are not taking a pound out of there and selling it with no tax and ship. Like everything you grow is accounted for. Has to be cameras in every single part of it so that they can investigate you and find out if you're

committing tax fraud by selling pounds on the side. And the taxes are so crazy the corner a lot of people. I know. The only way these motherfucker's are actually turning the profit is by selling a decent amount of the weed that they get illegally, you know, like without paying the taxes and ship. That's crazy. I was completely unaware of how difficult the businesses because it seems like all these dispensaries they're making like fifty a hundred thousand a

month selling weed. Oh no, they got dispensaries that open up. You might see them for three months and then they're gone. They moved to another spot. I think you're making a hundred thousand and a month out a weed shop. That that a hundred thousands turning into five thousand, like pretty fucking quick after tax. Is your employees the real estate.

I used to have a quiz Nos franchise and it would make like forty average quizins can make fortt but you're only taking home about four or five thousand of that. So you forty five thousand to run a quiz nos for one month. You just made yourself a job. You know, it's like a regular job. It's the biggest waste of money I ever invested in my life. I ain't doing none of it. I ain't doing nothing legal. You don't

benefit off for selling nothing legal any street products. You go legal and do all that, you're wasting your time. Get it be on that curve. You know how many people thought I was a millionaire because I had a quiz Nos people? How many people thought how rich I was because that that quiz Nos buried me. You know,

it just took everything I had. I thought that was because my original business was a BMX website where I was selling advertisements these BMX companies and ship and for a while, I was making like a hundred grand a year. And I'm feeling like the man because I didn't I started that ship myself. Being as a small industry, I guess I didn't really even understand how small ball that was at the at the time. But I'm feeling like

the man. And then I am. I remember I opened the bike shop and everybody I know is hitting me up, acting like I'm so successful now because I have the bike shop. I'm like, you're realize I'm gonna lose money on this for like a significant amount of time, Like running a bike shop is a for for me. There was a long term branding prospect for my brand on some ship, which is like my No Jumpers, like the media company on some ship's kind of like the BMX

skate rooted apparel brand, you know and like. But people were acting like I was so successful just because I opened the store. I'm like, and also you could open us. I was. I was in downtown in l A, on the corner and the edge of skid roll. I think we're paying te in rent a month. I'm like, it's not so unobtainable to open the store. Yeah. And I bet during your death row days, they probably people thought you had more money than what people were really making.

Everybody was a millionaire, right just because you see somebody on TV, do me rich? You know what I'm saying, And Uh, that's just people's perception. They see you out there, you're in the cars, you're doing this, they think you got money, we was we was neighborhood rich. And it's crazy, like I always forget that, Like for most of my life, I thought that it would be like the coolest ship

ever just to be around rappers. And I and a lot of people still are on that wavelength, and it's like in reality, like tonight, there's all kinds of rappers that I know that I could go pull up on the studio and smoke a couple of blunts on them or whatever, like the funk. Am I gonna be doing that for I ain't get no money doing that. You know. It's like it's nice to maybe like nurture the relationship, but just see somebody you ain't seen in a minute whatever.

But like you know, I just forget that to a lot of people, just being around famous people is like the coolest ship in the world because they just haven't done that ship is now. You mentioned when you was on I think you said you went to Mexico on a vacation. You thought about your content and how you want to change it. What what will we expect that's new in terms of the content that you plan on putting out this year. I think we're just gonna get

a lot more consistent with our vlogs. Of just like me and other hosts were like really focused on building up other hosts under the brand to be able to just keep get real consistent with our vlogs and covering all different parts of the culture in l A and outside of l A. We're gonna do Black Dave doing skate slash hip hop videos out in New York City. He did one out here actually when he was out visiting us. They he was just going out and like hitting all the skate parks in l A. Linked with

the kid Sunny from the mid nineties movie. Uh, he just did one where he like pulled up to a B. G. Neil's block in Brooklyn. Um just working on building out more hosts and just kind of increasing the overall flavor of the content that we're putting out there. Like you said, like people were really excited about that BMX video. We're trying to just do a lot of BMX skate stuff over the next year too, and just keep growing that side of things. I'm probably you don't have like a

BMX like um park, no jumper BMX park. That's the goal is to have a private skal you know, you made in this line of work if you got a private skate park in the valley. So that's that's something I'm shooting for in the long run, to have all the people just come through with their bikes. See, that would be the dopest thing. You don't even got to go to skate park and worry about the sun or anything. You just got your own private warehouse with ramps and stuff that will be doing. No. I don't know if

you saw the video James, but he hasn't. I guess played and he did the tricks in like three or four years. Yeah, I didn't. He was landing them. I don't know the names of those. But when you take the pegs on the back wheels and skateboard culture they call that a grind, the same thing, uphill uphill grind. Yeah, we were going for it. It was good he was. He was landing them. I was actually impressed. I was like, I didn't know this guy had BMX skills. No, not

at all. My two sons could do kick flips and and all that stuff on skateboards for like twenty years. Honestly, when I got into BMX at thirteen, that's pretty much all I did for like the next twenty years of my life, and just at a certain point I started

the website and started success with that. That was about ten years in, and I was it's pretty much how I learned to do everything, because it's like I wouldn't have had any kind of confidence or any kind of resume to interview rappers, but I was interviewing bike riders, and then that sort of gave me the entry point to start even having anything going on, to be able

to sort of meet people in the entertainment world. And shoot, thirteen years old a little late just to start in that world because a lot of them have been riding since the six seven years. Especially now, it's like you you could kind of tell if a kid is going to end up being a probe by the time the thirteen These days, a lot of times like it's thirteen is like you should have a solid skill set these days because the best dudes usually are dudes who have

been doing it since they were fucking really young. And that's when the sponsorships come into those fourteen, fifteen, sixteen year olds, you know they made it. How does it compare between skateboarding and BM Mexic Because I hear a lot about skateboarding world. I don't hear a lot about

the BMX world. Being in this world is just small in comparison because there's just a lot less people who do it in comparison to skate I feel like skate has gotten a lot bigger over the twenty years or so that I've been involved, while the BMX thing has gotten a bit smaller. But I mean, it's still like a really amazing community. Like I'm consistently just amazed by the people who are just so ridiculously passionate about it.

So I mean, it's it's something where like you know, actually riding bikes might not be a really big part of my life at this point, but it's always just going to be something that's a part of my overall brand. And it's just kind of saw the issue of like how to incorporate it into No Jumper in a way that sort of shows all the different sides of the culture. You know, you don't really see a lot of people

of color in the BMX world and skateboarding. There's a lot of people of color starting, but when I was a little kid, we didn't write skateboards, right. I don't know if you've noticed there's a lot of black kids now writing skateboards in the hood, and there's money in it. Everybody around the skateboard nine day. It wasn't even cool when I was little. If he was on a skateboard, he was a punk, he was a coward. While you on a skateboard, man, it's been amazing seeing that ship changed.

I think it was honestly around two thousand nine ten when I started to see Soldier boys standing on a skateboard rapping in the video, and then all of a sudden, it just felt like there was just change and attitude. Because you know, a lot of the skate parks are kind of in the hood, so you would always have

kids from the hood go into the skate park. But then all of a sudden, it felt like those same kids wanted to actually learn how to skateboard once they sort of saw people in the in the rap culture

embracing it and stuff. So that was that was actually like a really dope thing for me to see and really kind of gave me a lot of hope in terms of like where you could go from there, because to me, a young kid who was like from the hood in the streets whatever, like them thinking the skateboarding is dope and that that's a dope way of life. That's such a positive thing because you know, for for them to see that as a positive way of life, for them to be looking at the tye of the Creator.

I remember when he came out like two thousand and eleven, and he was the first one to really represent a version of a young kid from l A who didn't give a funk about the gangs and just wanted to hang out on Fairfax and go to the skate park and you know, make some rap music and stuff and didn't give it sh it about being tough, and that like opened up like a blueprint for so many kids to be able to understand themselves as a person who's

not defined by their willingness to commit violence or whatever. You know. They put a skate park in Rancho Park, which is the park for the Jungles is at and for years, I don't think there was any skate park in South Los Angeles. I don't know if there's anything. There might be one skate park in Compton now, but for throughout the eighties and i'd say most of the nineties, there were no skate parks in South l A. Now

they're popping up. And Stacy Peralta, he came to the Jungles one day and was teaching the kids there and and then this is the neighborhood for the Black Peace Stones are for those who don't know, He's teaching the kids there how to skate, and all these little black kids was loving it. They all wanted to learn how to skate. They all wanted to know how to ali. And I think it's just changing. But I don't know if the BMX world is gonna catch up to what

they're doing in the skateboarding world. Yeah, it's just like a different side of things. I mean. And the one thing I always loved about BMX bikes was just that when I got into it, all of a sudden, I was riding my bike, you know, three or four miles from my house to downtown. Uh in the city I

grew up in. We started hopping on the train and going to Boston, or you know, hopping on the train going to New York, hopping on the bus going to New York and just being able to use that as a vehicle to just get away from my home life and all the bullshit I was dealing with my parents, and ship was just like huge for me. And I think best case scenario, that's what a lot of kids get from a skateboard or a BMX bike. That might be sort of you know, that's what it gets lost

because people think it's so much about the tricks. To me, it's just about having that vehicle that's gonna take you away from your circumstances and help. To me, the world seems so much bigger on a bike because I could just get somewhere fast and be able to like just experience things in a way that I felt closed off because I was riding bikes even before I had a car or anything. You know, you didn't see too much of that when you was growing up as a kid either, No,

just the skateboarding, but specifically the BMX thing. But maybe there was more because I remember in the eighties we used to ride mong Gooses, red Lines, Diamondbacks. That used to be more of just a normal teenager thing. But you know, l A and a bike city, you know, like New York is a bike city. L A is kind of too big, Like you can ride around a specific neighborhood or whatever, but you're not gonna ride from North Hollywood to Compton. You know it's like downtown. Yeah,

but in Compton at least l A is flat. When you go south of Hollywood, it's pretty much all flat. So it's easy to like right right down town l All right, Um, any last words before we wrap this up on them, man, there's an honor. I'd love to get you guys on the show sometime for sure. Yeah, we're coming. That would be awesome. Well, people, because you left, I'm coming. I already choke you. I'm coming to show. I wouldn't be on there. And no, no, we ain't

gonna smoke in my spot. They're going to kick up. No I ain't for that. No, I'll do the opposite. Alright, Well, I want to thank everybody for listening to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. You know, you can find James McDonald on Facebook. He's got the red Harley and in the profile picture, and he's also on Instagram at B I, G G J thirty six thirty six the Death Row

T shirts. He's wearing one right now. If you're interested in one of those, hit him up nine zero nine eight h zero four and you can find me on all social media platforms at alex Alonzo one zero one. Make sure you check out my latest interviews on Street tv, a K Street Gangs dot com and Adams found on No Jumper pretty much every day. Um, you're Adam twenty

two at Twitter and at Instagram and James. Yeah, I got sixty T shirts that was defective, and I say I couldn't sell them because on the back of one of the pictures, uh, one of the guys face didn't show. So I couldn't mail those shirts out. But I can. I don't know how to give them away because I ain't gonna use my money to mail them to you.

So if you want a T shirt, hit me up on nine oh nine four one, nine zero three four or five and you pay for the handling, the shipping and hand And I was shipping anywhere as long as you pay for it. So let's say the average is ten bucks, send me ten bucks, I send you a T shirt. You could also do what they do on UH the team doesn't win the championship. When one team doesn't win the championship, because they make T shirts for both sides, right, one team loses. You know what they

do with those shirts? I think they sent him to Africa. They just give them away. Well, I mean, I mean everybody loving the shirts. I mean I would get back and find a place where I could just, you know, just give them out. But they're not they must not be that defective. One picture on the on the back,

his face didn't come clear. It's worth it the just I was sending it to you, but put put your signature on on the front part of it, right in the white part where the the the death row guy sitting in the chair, and adds a little value to it. And uh, I think people will definitely hit you up. On the black ones, I gotta I got a white pant, white ink, I hit on bone them and then I used a black one on the white one. So I didn't signed a few autographs, but yeah, that's what I have.

So you know, they're just sitting them, They're just sitting in my garage in the box, and I'm just trying to figure out what to do with them. And I figured I let everybody know that I have them. Those at one one and and around me. I give you a T shirt, I'll bring something to you and those that out there, I sent them to you just paper for me sending it sounds good good Other than no Jumper, Adam,

where else can people find you? On social media? Adam on Twitter and Instagram, Facebook, all that ship appreciate you coming. And let's reinstate Pete Rose into the Major League Baseball we out shirt h