"Straight Up Menace" The MC EIHT Episode

here with my co host James McDonald. Yes, and this is episode forty three. And for all your listeners out there that are new to the podcast, please go back and binge listened to some previous episodes because most of them are into related. If you're listening to us on Apple Podcasts, please give us a rating and a review so that we can continue bringing you this amazing content. Give us a star rating from one to five stars,

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show on the Digital Soapbox Network. Video clips produced by Smooth Cut Production. So let's get right into episode forty three. We gotta guess m C eight, what's up? You tell me? Man? Just chilling? And uh we we can't not just you know, acknowledge one of the biggest tragedies in sports history, especially for Los Angeles man, one of the greatest to ever do it. If anybody came close to Michael Jordan's, uh,

it's Kobe Bryant. And sometimes even say some can go and say maybe he was a little better than Jordan's. A lot of people got their opinions. Yeah, I wouldn't say that, but he was a hell of a player. Well you know, um, Jordan was always surrounded by a hell of a cast, so it's kind of hard to compare, you know. And and and Kobe came right out of high school, straight out of high school, eighteen years old playing with big boys. He definitely did it. He definitely

did it. So, I mean, you know, I just I just think it's sad we don't know when we're going. We don't know our time man and going to take his daughter too. That that that really you know, hit on. You know, it really pissed me off about that. Thing is you know how the news is always so quick to be the first ones to beat everyone else to the story, and the process of doing that, they threw Rick Fox under the bus. Oh yeah, we heard Rick Fox. We heard a couple of you know, a couple of

tales out there. You know, they just wanted to be the first ones with the story, y'all believe, So you know, news team's gonna report whatever it is first hand so they can be the first jump on it. Did you hear Rick Fox telling us story that his phone started blowing up and everybody who loved him was like, what I mean, can you imagine what if they were going through? I don't look I don't look at TV like y'all do.

I only watch Western, so so I didn't know. Somebody showing me a little clip about one one h lady anchor and she was like the nigger. Oh yeah. I was like, wow, did she really say that ship? She really didn't say it? Yeah, And that just lets you know what people really at man, Yeah, exactly did you I heard it? You know a lot of people have disputes about it, saying that she mixed Lakers with the knicker Bockers. So that's how it came about to be names.

You know, Look, that's her story. You can't mix that, you know what. I listened to it about eight times just to see if there was an explanation that would sit well with men. I couldn't find one. No, not at that's that's yeah. They'll tell us she makes nicker Nick's with the Lakers and came up with Nickers. All right, Can we all start off with a Kobe Bryant memory? Thought, like, James, I mean not just the sixty points, I mean when you watch him, I mean you got a lot of memories.

I mean his dunks, you know, just you know him and shock the ship they did on on court, you know, and then you know, I didn't like the paul out between them two, and you know, you watch all that ship and then you're like typical us that fall out costing some rings, but it's typical. I think they could have got at least another two. At least they could have got three more. Hey, what's uh, what's the Kobe

Bryant memory? Uh? My memories of Kobe is just being able to, you know, bring championships back to l A. Seeing the drop we had for a while. You know, we had some good players that came through, but we just couldn't get over that hump until we got Kobe and Shocked together. So that that was a big contribution to you know, the Lakers getting back on track with the championships. What we've known for Well, how much do you credit do you give to Phil Jackson? Because Kobe

and Shaq got together in ninety six? They didn't win a ring until Phil Jackson came and they needed that. They needed that veteran leadership, you know what I'm saying, Uh, who else was it before them? Uh? The day all or whoever he was the coach was before him. They just need they just needed that veteran leadership, you know, with him being over at the Bulls and having that experience of how to run a team like that. We're having so many high profiles, you know what I'm saying.

So when he came in, he was able to tone it down a little bit, get everybody on one track, right, That's what I was gonna say. He was able to balance the two amount, you know what I'm saying, got to be able to buy into the program, so to speak. So he got them all to buy in. But funny you said we had a drought. It was from eighty eight to two thousand. A city like without championship for twelve years is usually not considered a drought. But for

l A, we're expecting him every year exactly. I mean, you know with the Lakers and then with football and all that, we're just known for winning the Dodgers all that, So to be without championships is hartful. You know, the Dodgers and the Lakers both ones indeed, and the Dodgers ain't won one since well, actually, let's say they did. They just got cheated at it two maybe exactly. We had to. We had the Billy Check videos going on in the baseball scam, so we had that going on.

So it probably cost us a couple of championships on that level too. Yeah, let's they cheated us at the two of the championship I just want to do a quick fact check from last episode. I mentioned this brother that was skateboarding from Long Beas, but I couldn't get his name. Terry Kennedy from Long Beach tern Pro and uh actually had a reality show on BT called Being Terry Kennedy. He's one of the first black dudes. It's the black skateboard Yeah. I don't know if anyone predates him.

I don't want to say he's the first black dude to go pro, but the first one that I've seen skateboard on the skateboarding yeah, do skateboards? That what you got to say? He's not what? Oh yeah, he's definitely not the first, but he's the first one that I was exposed to. Terry Kennedy got shot in two thousand five in the face. You know, grew up in the hood and Long Beach and who would have thought a

brother like that from Long Beach returned pro skateboarding. Um, so that's that's the guy's name that I couldn't remember. Terry Kennedy. And James he was right on point last week about that Double Jeopardy. Even though O. J. Simpson got tried in criminal court was found not guilty, but they tried him in civil court and found him well, they don't use that terminology and civil they found him responsible, you know. But here's here's the fifth. This is what

double jeopardy is. No person shall be subject for the same offense to be put twice in jeopardy of life for Limb. Now here's the trick thing to that offense to some is considered something criminal. On when he went to civil court, they weren't trying him for anything criminal. They were trying him for the wrongful death, which is a civil matter. But some people say that's just a tricky way to get around ship. But you can't. It's

the same ship. It's the same thing, terminology, different, same thing. Man, If I got found not guilty for murder, how can your parents or anybody else say you killed my kids wrong for death and they won't assume me you can't do that. But they did even like that, you feel me. So that's the first one I went through that It's

just it's just a loophole in the system. It only happened with rich people, man, And some people don't look at it this double jeopardy and say, well, double jeopardy could only be criminal like he can never he can never be tried for anything criminal together, Like he can go on TV and say I did kill her and they can't try umph criminal. But the civil thing is

a little different. But a lot of people, a lot of even legal expert come if they if they found him not guilty, so how can you go They're going here and the civil and say, uh, we know you did it. What proof do they have he did it if you got found not guilty. To me, it's just a way for them to take your bread you have.

Some people say it ain't about the money. Some people want to do that civil because it's a way for them to get that feeling of you being convicted guilty, even though they said in the criminal law he wasn't guilty. A lot of cases when his high profile celebrities, they usually turned around and do civil cases because and then they'll turn around and say, well, it's not about the money. To some it's a way of being able to get some kind of verdict to say this motherfucker has something

to do. Period. I just need something because when a mother fuck go he's not guilty in front of the world and the cameras and all that the motherfucker's just sitting over there like fuck. So now I gotta be able to do something to feel like I gotta get that. I gotta get something that lets the world, because you know, half for the world is out there ready to tear it up because the motherfucker's found out guilty. So now let's go try him in civil case. Take his money.

Say it ain't about his money. Say it's about just saying the fact that he had something to do with it. That's it. So to some of some kind of justification, like you said. But I think also they want to punish. The family wants him punished, and I gotta punish this motherfucker's some kind of way. So fuck it. If you got money, I'm gonna take your money. Just because the family believed that he did it. It's not enough to say we're want fifty million dollars. I believe that too.

If you found that guilty of the criminal case, how can you turn it around? It soon be for buddy and the civil case and they go, okay, yeah, you had something to do with it. How I just was acquitted of murder. So you mean to tell me you can go around and go funck that, Yeah, I believe he has something to do it. And in any fucking high profile conviction, when motherfucker's feel they wrong nine times

a teen, what the fucking jury gonna do. They're gonna award him that civil case because they don't happen as to rich people. You don't know nobody around the corner who killed your daughter in the accidental dry and he get acquitted. You don't see a motherfucker going, yeah, I take you the motherfucker civil court. I'm gonna take your low rider or your dope spot fucking I'm gonna do all that. But you know what, they should do it because you never know when someone might come up on

the lottery or something. Because you have that judgment there, that's forever. That's what you have, that judgment there, that's forever. And then all of a sudden, ten years later he came across fifty million. Boom that right off the top to whoever did do that. But you're right, no one's thinking like this, dude, Yeah all right, but you you was on point though on that double jeopardy. Most people believe, even though it's civil cord, that is still a violation

of double jeopardy. All right, And the last thing I wanted to fact check was you. You asked an interesting question about does alcohol affect the sperm count and men when they're trying to get women pregnant. We were talking about marijuana, but then you said what about drinking? And I don't know it does actually Listen to this, five five or more drinks in a two hour period will have a direct and negative effect on your sperm count, and fourteen drinks within a one week period will lawyer

testosterone and lawerr sperm. Well, let me tell you something when back in the days when I was drinking that that that Supercyco and gin. I think all my kids came around the same time. So because they had you strong,

you was off that ship. Christian, I don't know what showed you when well that it's pretty unanimous and all the medical journals that you don't want to be impregnant aty woman on Hennessey that that much like I said, like he said in our era, that that might have not happened because a lot of kids was conceived off of some some some some some eight ball and some Christian brothers. I'm telling you all right, so let's get into it. Eight man, you're the guests, You're the man

of the hour. James, you want to start it off, go ahead? I mean I got to say, go ahead. You against the rapper. There's no way around it. Listening to your first few albums when you was with Constant most wanted check this out. A lot of people say the history of gangster rapping l A goes back to n w A or Iced Tea, But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, gangster rap started from

a dude from your neighborhood. Gangster rap started with Toddy T and Nick mixed Map the Ken, then they they started gangster ed te Iced Tea came around eighty seven with Dog in the Wax You Don't Quit Um and rhymes. Uh yeah uh. Iced Tea was working with Unknown so he was like label type of ship. Tott T and them was straight T d K tapes in the garage.

You know, we used to bottom motherfucker's for ten dollars and ship, so to us, that was our rendition the first gangster roup because you know Todd and Spade and Ken and then they talked about the dope sales in the hood. They talked about the raids. With the Battle Ram, they talked about the clucks and the strawberries and ship. They basically gave us the info as young Motherfucker's I was a young dude. I was probably like nine ten, So they gave us the info on was really going

on in the neighborhood. You know what I'm saying for kids whose parents were still trying to keep them on the ground and ship, you know, like my mom did until I was about toy or thirteen. So yeah, was more considered a one hit wonder. You don't remember the Battle Ram song Ram that was gangster and that predates pretty much all of the mainstream gangster wrap that put

l A and Compton on the map. Tom made it as far as to what Epic he his single, I mean, it went through the channels, It came from the mix tapes in the street. Then he made it to an independent label, Eve Gym, and then about a year later Epic put his single out, the Battle Round. So if there any other sort of rapper that was grapping that gangster stuff that inspired Toddy T, or was that just a Toddy T Hibben Spade mixed Master Spade. They was like a crew that that's what it was Hibben Spade

and with Spade also from Track. Now Spade was from where Uh yeah, so Spade was. But they just hooked up and they, like I said, that was our first introduction to gangster rap. And then from THEE and ship all kinds of ship came along. Do you hear often that that Track News is considered pretty much the history of the foundation of the first gangster rap on wax

on record. I don't really hear people say that. I mean, tyd t doesn't really get mentioned as often as I mean, I think Todd is satisfied for what he did, as far as Compton is conserved, as far as rapp is concerned, because he knew he was like one of the godfathers of comping gangster rap. Because Ice Tea gives credit to uh Philly Rappern and SCHOOLI D for inspiring him. And you know, I don't think I don't think I ever. I think Ice Tea came from New York. I think

so that would be his influence. It wouldn't be a h young, you know, dope selling, you know, gang banging nigga from Track New Park but was moved to l A when he was at least twelve, but he but to me he still had that New York influence and his influence of coming up on gangster rap because ship we listened to fucking school d d. He was gangster rap to us though, you know so. But as far as who we considered was our pioneer was Todd in Spade. Now we were said gainst rap way back then, gainst

rep wouldn't like the rev we got today. No, this gainst rap rapping and gainst repp is two different things. And and what you heard them, dude, they were They weren't talking about pulling up on the blocks. Todd and them wasn't talking about drive bys and ship like that. They was basically just talking about what was going on in any Nega neighborhood. Who was selling dough. Yeah, they were talking to hustle and you know, the cluckheads, and

we're trying to get money. And Compton City they they never glory, They never spoke on being from trag new They never did that because to me, they were smart. They wanted to gather everybody crips bloods essays, we want everybody in the city of Compton to float with our ship. So we're not gonna say we're from trag New part even though motherfucker's know where we're from, but we're not gonna say that. That was something about what We didn't

have to do that. Even me as a rapper coming up, I never had to say I was from trag New Park. I didn't feel we needed to do that. We we we we didn't feel we needed to glorify that ship because for niggas who was really in the neighborhood every day or on the block or was used to hanging over there, we didn't feel we needed that type of identity. We wanted to be fucking. We didn't look at ourselves as gangster rappers. Niggas was just rapping. We was just

rappling about what we was doing. Every day. We was in an neighborhood, we was hanging out. Niggas was doing dry bys and selling dope, and we was fucking hood rats. And that's where we pretty much as everything. That's what and on the ground out there, and for and for us, we didn't want to We wanted that ship too. Niggas knew where we was from, but we wanted to capture every gangster. We wasn't after just man, we're just trying to make music for the crips. We wasn't on that.

We want to fucking I want them niggas to like my ship, the blood niggas, the hood niggas in Texas and New York. And that's what we was looking for. So back in our days, we didn't feel we had to say, oh we was a crip or blood or whatever whatever. But that's where rap is nowadays. You know, a lot of niggas want to signify where they from. You know, I get it, you know, because you want

to say it's toned down or whatever. I think it's too late to to become like a straight gangster rapper because all these little figures cats coming out of here and they start making money now, they want to find their hood to identify exactly. You gotta be like from the ground up. You gotta be like in the field already exactly. See. You know what it's like you you all that game from the hood. You know what I'm saying. So these little cats coming in here now today, and

this is what I'll be trying to get him to understand. Like, uh, I don't even want to see his name. That's six nine little cats. You know what I'm saying, You got you got all these know I'm serious, you got all of these these cats coming to the hood. But then we let the men the hood, and then you find out, man, what but for the money. Yeah, a lot of a lot of niggers feel like, you know, get pressured into

that motherfucking position. And then a lot of dudes who want to be authentic, so to speak, they try to latch on to hurting dudes who might be affiliated or have some kind of you know, they only gotta they only they gotta work with the real. So some niggas feel like, hey, maybe if I start hanging or pay my way in or give niggas some ship, or buy a couple of niggas and chains and put them on the playroll, that gets me in. You know. That's that's what the that's what the motto is today. I'm I'm

a I'm a firm believer that it don't work. But you know, when you got a lot of brothers, that's that's hanging on the block. Ain't doing ship going back and forth to prison, And when the opportunity comes, it's always opportunity ship jumping on it. But at the end of the day, each and every last one of us that dealt like that and brung a cat in like that or somebody else. The short you always lose at

the end of the day. You know what I'm saying, Letting people in your neighborhood, letting people be a part of what you know, your bloodsho and tears. I know what it was because for me and for niggas like I grew up with it, getting into the gang means you had to get your ass jumped in and put in work. That's how you got into the game. It wasn't about buying your way in or let me go over here and buy a couple of niggas and chains

and watches and ship and take them on tour. And we started hanging out and now, fuck it, I'm from the neighborhood. Ship. It wasn't that that, That wasn't that wasn't the cold. You're talking about the eighties now and we ain't never seen a decade now. I wanted to say mention all the eighties rappers never mentioned the gang name on WAX. I don't think it was. I think DJ Quick is the first one that's ninety one when he came out with his first album and he said

second like tree top swinging from the trees. But n w A iced t seeing comes the most one. No one said gang names in the eighties. And I don't know if DJ Quick changed the game in ninety one. And and I think that's ro started to say a couple of gangs stuff, you know, I right, I mean, if you wanna. I mean, we're not true because everybody around here knows about the banging on Wax records. Yeah, and a lot of them, a lot of them cats

was claiming their neighborhood there. So that's my first rendition of niggas claiming sets on records because they were out just this is my hood, Okay, so let's let's change it. They that's independent, independent, also signed to major labels. So no major label rapper and no Quick set a gang name on Wax, right, And I think that changed the game. I don't think it changed the game. I just think

it was, you know, something Quick wanted to do. I mean, I mean as far as if you look at after that, I don't think as far as we was concerned, we still was on the same pattern. We still it didn't start speaking about trag New and I mean maybe after some dudes mighty start saying what street they was from or grew up on or stuff like that. But but you know that really just like I'm from tree Top or trag New or I'm from the motherfucking this block or that block. I think that started like down the

line something, you know what I'm saying. After after quick and after a lot of dudes, Snoop was started mentioning twenty one three. But if you notice, Snoop didn't do a lot of that too in the beginning. But then, you know, like some dudes just it just it just started to transition. Fucking Oh did I hear him? Oh he said he was from so and so. Well, fuck it, now I'm from a fucking street. Or then next thing, you know, my nigga game came along and it was

Cedar Block. And then next thing, you know, you know, y g and it was Tree Top and it was four hundred block. And then everybody's you know, fuck it, I'm gonna represent my neighborhood. Fuck it. And I think Pop was shouting out the mob man, you you that Now, I'm just saying, I think the nineties kind of we saw it kind of slowly. It started slowly evolving. Yeah, because motherfucker's want to let you know. Fuck it. You know, if it's like that ship, I'm gonna start letting people

know where I'm from. Fucking and and and that was the crazy part. Like when you were uh quick, little beef man, you never crossed paths, and and you had pretty much a little bit of everybody taking sides. And now this is me from this day, from back then, and now that was the beef. You had bloods and crips going at him when you had this beef. And then you know, you got niggas got sucked up. Now now you're all good. Oh no, we're good as my fun exactly. I mean, I mean with the truth and

all of this stuff. The kitchens in the east, those guys and you know, everybody trying to to make and half peace, but they can't get over the humph they killed the homie or they did this. You got a guy right here that's making money, DJ Quick, you know what I'm saying, making money. They got this feud. They feud involved everybody, it did, but I mean everybody. But then at the end of the day, just say I lost my cousin behind this feud. But these dudes are

right here today and they're cool. They're cool as hell, So it don't make no sense to even create this this this look at Tupac and Biggie. You know that beat was half as it was just full of ship, but look what it cost. And then at the end of the day they were hooking up and getting back together, but it didn't happen. But then here you got other people talking and and like like nothing ever happened. You know what I'm saying, And I don't know what I'm

trying to say. I'm just trying to say they're worth the beefs ain't worth it. No, definitely at the end of the day, especially if if it comes down to Nigga's losing their lives and ship over. You know, I credited to just being young and immature and basically wanting

to again, I won't to represent where you're from. I mean, you know, uh us, I mean me as a young rapper and ship even out you know, in the streets going on tour, I still wanted to hang with the homies and be associated to the neighborhood even though we was making money. I'm saying in movie screens and ship, our our identity was still compting in the neighborhood, and we didn't want to forget that. But then, like you said, beefs come over territories and rivalries and ship like that.

And then it spread to records and then innocent bystanders or niggas who ain't even got shipped to do it the by spit or the rap he wrote. Now niggas is losing their lives, are getting fucked up behind it, So I think you you know, and then you got some niggas who instigate the ship, you know what I'm saying.

And then he got homies, and I got homies who feel like we gotta represent And even when motherfucker's ain't around, that's how the beach still goes on because now you've got people on the outside to feel like, fuck it, we gotta partake too. So it comes with just trying to overtime and just being mature enough to grow the

funk up. Really, And you know, some of us when we get into that age bracket to where we start, you know, getting a little gray hair and kids running around, and you know, we're still able to sit around here and be like, God, damn, I'm getting old and got a teenage daughter or daughter who got a kid now or blah blah blah. I guess we started getting them a little mature to where nigga don't want to have

no motherfucking beach as a grown man. I want to be able to go where the funk I want to go and go hang with whoever and whatever neighborhood without it having a result into the situation of you know, ship. I used to be a crip and you used to be a blood and niggas used to shoot at me and we used to shoot back and somebody lost their life. I get it, but that's like warfare to me. The

casualties of war. You give me, don't fall don't fault me for what I did when I was following the motherfucking street code and the rag and whate because now I'm a mature man and I know it ain't about that ship. So casualties of war, mom, nigga, if you feel me. We just saw the Florences and the East Coast Crips in their twenty year war. We're talking about probably one of the most bloody conflicts in the last two decades that Florence's were playing East and the East

Coast is gang bag bang like a mother. So these guys came to the table in September two thousand nine teen and ended it. So if they can do it, But just that just goes back to what I'm saying. Look how lone that was. And now they they're not type. But they didn't, you know, so crazy. I said it on this podcast like a few months before that, that we're gonna bring the East Coasts and the Florences together. And when I said it, I didn't know how what

was gonna happen. I didn't know what was gonna happen. I didn't know anything. And then like I talked it into existence, and then people sometimes happen. You know how many people hit me in the inbox saying are you crazy? The East Coast and the Florence will never truce? And then with three months later, boom they have to take Now they're still good, right now, They're still good right now.

In fact, um myself and Skip Townsend brought the Inglewood Thirteens, the Queen Street Bloods and the Neighborhood Pirus and Inglewood to the table last Friday for the first time, and that was the first meeting for them to have a three way truce. So we got another meeting this week, the second meeting to kind of solidify that. So I think it's gonna start spreading. Man, like the eighties gang banging in early nineties, gang banging has been over and

just treacherous day. Yeah, And like you said, we got to get over the casualties. But everybody ain't. If anybody ever get you ain't got a gang banging history. I'm gonna tell you some catching and who would be like Funk that they don't want to let it go all you have to have somebody there to get him to let it exactly. You know what I'm saying. If black man are gonna kick it in one room like this years ago, I never saw this exactly. Oh no, I'm not going nowhere with this dude. I didn't like his

music because he was talking about quick. Okay. If if this is a blood and crypt than everybody knows who they ride with exactly saw each other. It's a problem. And niggas was getting beat up cars shot up there exactly playing their song. You know what I'm saying, We're going up Chris Shaw playing his song I had a seventy seven call at the time, and I'm bumping DJ quick as soon as he was talking about the dice

pop pop Pop swerved off Hits Central. I don't know where the funk it is, but it's somebody that didn't like that. So you've got people mad, you've got people understanding and needs meet all the time, and and at this point it's good. It's like we don't care anymore about that because majorities. There's more brothers that don't want to do it anymore than there are that one to keep pushing that, and in these meetings, the majority rules. Now I'm not a I'm talking about the streets right now,

but the meetings are the dudes from the streets. They come into the table and then they're going back to the streets saying, look, we just had this meeting. Hopefully they are strong enough in the presence that they can articulate the dudes because like like he said, it's just

motherfucker's who are like fuck that. You have to have that motherfucking person who was able to go to the because it's all it's it's usually some young dude or some dude from way back in the day who feel like funk, that brother was killed, cousin was killed, family was killed, and y'all trying to sit down with the hood that done it. I am not for it. And like you said, there are just some dudes they go, we can't do this ship no more. But you always got that one or two that cannot let go the

casualty of war that I can't do it. So they have to be able to show him that it's a better way, in a better side than keeping the fucking animosity and the anger to still want to pop every time you see a nigger from that neighborhood. And that's what they're doing. And a lot of these brothers are

This is risky work, these truces. These truces can't get you killed because you go back to the neighborhood and say, we just had a meeting and you bump into someone like you're talking about you don't know what he's feeling that day, you know, So it's pretty risk it's pretty dangerous. But you know, we're pushing, we're pushing, and uh, at the end of the day, there's there's too many people that want to end the animosity. There's too many people

from these neighborhoods, from these sets that come to these meetings. Man, every time we do a meeting, there's more people. The following week there's more people, ten more people come. Well that's because you got, oh the older cats trying to jump on the bandwagon, and because they tired. You know, we got kids, we got grandkids. I'm raising my two year old man son three years over. He's three. I hadn't boy what two years and and man, I'm enjoying that more than I did anything in my life. So

when you get fifty five, you on your way. You can't be looking stupid out there on the block no more. So. You know, these guys coming home from prison after doing I don't know which way to go, and then all they see is a little homes and their nephews and all that. But while killing each other. It's time. But you just got a lot of cats. And then you have some older catch that's out there still pushing the line. You know what I'm saying, it's just ridiculous. Well, I'd

like to see um A lot of you do. His father's and the number one thing that comes up is like my son is twelve. My son'st the gang ages, the gang joining ages, and most people don't want this for their kids. So that's why they come into these meetings, and that's why they're saying, we're gonna end this truth. We're gonna end this rival because I want my son to be able to walk from point A to point B and not have to deal with the things that I had to deal with when I was coming up

during that time. So a lot of these guys that have sons, that's a huge motivator. And how can you not how can you go against that? Because if you got a son and you still living in that situation, then nine times out of ten he gonna have to deal with what you dealt with as a young stir banging and whatever. So if you're trying to see a better life for your kids and you're still living in that situation, you know, because some dudes don't migrate out,

fuck it. I stay right here in the neighborhood or in in l a still or whatever. So knowing how the streets was when we came up, and how easy it is for you to get motherfucking got it. It has to be a situation to where they come together because, like you said, yeah, I don't want to have my fourteen year old son walking to the store and the motherfucker pull up just because last night somebody went through

their neighborhood and shot up. Now my innocent fourteen son is going to get shot because he's just walking to the store. So it's a lot of innocent by standardship. So if you want to kill that, you gotta be able to come to some kind of agreement, at least for the kids, you know what I'm saying. There's been a lot of talks. And Compton also a few six months ago. I think these two neighborhoods are close to you, the Swamps and the Campanella's, I believe, had a couple

of meetings. I'm not sure what. I wasn't president at though, so I don't know what happened, but a lot of compon neighborhoods that were rivals. I'll come to the table at least having some discussions, preliminary talks. I mean, it's only it's the only way for you to try to survive the next generation and to leave something behind or to try to stay you know, foundation strong, incounting you

get me. So you know, we just can't like, we just can't kill each other off until motherfucker's like dinosaurs and extinct, you know what I'm saying. That's what's happening. In the early history of UH when Swamp was just swamp boys and Campanella was just Campanella boys, they was

all together in the in the seventies. It usually like that, and then something happened, somebody get killed, the funked up or whatever, and then there goes to split or there goes the community unity of whatever, and the next thing, you know, motherfucker's is worn. Well. Well, nowadays you got even in and everywhere, you got a homie killing the homie. It's so watered down now then whether it used to

be in the eighties, it's so watered down. So you you you got homies killing the homies, you got you got cats from another hood. Y'all was tight down. We didn't now we're killing each other. And and and one thing about the Crypts and Compton, I can tell you they was all good, you know what I'm saying, because they knew it was its number of bloods and Compton, but all the Crypts, especially Santana's and I say this all the time. Them cats was right by us, you

know what I'm saying. And them cats, if we don't, they're coming back. Baby games I had. I mean, those cats had each other, them had it. They were solid. You know what I'm saying, those them to cash. I gotta go after these dudes. Banion was game banging. Was game banging and not killing the little kid. Back then, if if I saw you with your baby, we had what you call you get a pass. Now they're gonna you and your baby down in your arm. These cat

we didn't have. We didn't have too many innocent kids getting killed and ship, I mean, niggas was worn like a motherfucker. But it was something about, like you said, at the level of of of respect for kids and fucking situations like Nick ain't going to see you in the car with your kid and just be like fuck it, We're still gonna dump on the nigga. It was some kind of some kind of respect or code of the streets we had with motherfucker's don't give a fuck kids

and everything out we're shooting up now fucking exactly now. Um. A few episodes ago, we interviewed Alonso Williams, and I think that almost every artist went through the world crist Wrecking Crew at some point every artist that became relevant, you did you have your path went through Alonso at at some point our path went through Unknown and Alonzo. Yeah,

it did. Um. I told him when he was on the show that if you total up the value of all the artists that you've ever dealt with, the billions, he'd declide he'd be the black Clive Davis right now, real ship. Let me tell you something in our days, and I say this about every artist, we all got to go through it. You go through to getting fun stage, I'm gonna funk who you are. You're gonna have that nigger who the manager or whatever, and he's gonna fuck you.

And not to discredit them niggas. But we didn't get ship just we was just happy. But the motherfucking we was just happy to get on. Now. Look, I deal with Mac. I mean Mac was cool to me. He was a cool person. Now being on as far as business and being on who banging. I mean, as far as our artist is concerned, you always gonna want the best of feel. You want to the ship for yourself

as an artist and on the business side. You know, one of my things was never take ship personal if it's business, and in situations with me knowing how to run my business and my record ship, it's just something motherfucker's ain't gonna go for. And then sometimes when you're a young business owner and you first started starting in the business, you know, you don't really know you know

how to just handle fucking business. I mean a lot of motherfucker's go through that though, start businesses and they failed because you guys were like teenagers. When when you was dealing with Alonzo, I'm guessing you I was a mocker, was about seventeen. It was about sixteen seventeen when I started dealing with Alonzo. We met Alonzo fucking around with some niggers that funked around across the street from Chill, and we wanted to form this group compence most wanted.

So we did that and they took us. We went made a fucking little dim old tape or some ship, and they had a meet. They was trying to get on their singers and we just happened to be riding with the motherfucker's and they ended up at Alonso house. We had to tape on us. We played it for him Ship. A week later, Alonso was hitting us up, telling us to come back to the studio, but Alonzo then funk with us. Alonzo pushed us off to Unknown DJ,

and that's how we got on. So who are some of the early artists that you met back in the day when you was with with Alonso that before they blew up and before they came up, you must have seen a little bit of everybody. We know Easy and Ren because Rin used to come across the street from Chill's house all the time, So we used to see Easy and n all the time. And then uh fucking with Unknown I mean in Alonzo, I mean Ship. It was all kind of motherfucking independent artists we've seen on

the way up, you know what I'm saying. Uh Dub was on his way up, fucking like I said, Iced Tea was on his way up because he funked with Unknown, because Unknown had a little independent label called Techno Hop. So we used to see all kind of motherfucker's going around the little little motherfucking We used to go to the clubs and Ship and Water the Bush and the Paradise and all that. Ship. So we used to see

a lot of motherfucking niggers on the come up. He is Wren the best lyricists from n w A. It's really the best lyricists from n w A. It all depends because go back and listen to all them songs. It was was the Ren to me, was the motherfucker who that was the MAGA union funk with when they came to the Cube was the clever motherfucker. Cube was the clever storytelling motherfucker. He could put the clever stories about the dope ship and what because Cube was an artist.

Rin was the motherfucking killer battle rat nigger. He wrote just straight up fucking fear ship. So to me coming up in the n w A days, to me, yeah, he probably I probably was. He probably was considered hard this to me as far as lyricists concerned, because he was a fucking lyricist. I mean, Cube was clever, but I didn't I didn't start bumping real Cube heavy until the motherfucking's Steady Mobbing album. Who was the real gangster?

All them out of n w A easy, I mean easy if you asked me, we all know we're usually come from Compton, I mean, but the rest of them. I mean RN was in Compton all the time, but it was never a game bager though. I don't think RN ever, I mean, chill you would know more than I do. He ran around with Tramor and south Side or was he? I see this is this in first to me? Uh, what about Ice Cube? I mean, yeah, Cube wasn't from Compton. Now, I used to funk with my nigga j D, who used to live over there

in the South. That was my nigga. I used to run with j D all the fucking time. Um, but Cube never really Cube really never claimed to be a banger. I mean people just took that assumption because of in way too Crippin to every movie he did. He did this in every movie. He made sure he threw up with c he he was he let me tell you something. Cube was one of the Cube to me was the nigga who grew up in the hood, who hung around the bangers, and he was he was accepted. You don't

have to claim one. He left or whatever, and to him, that's where he came. Like if I wasn't claiming Track knew and I still My cousin was from Tragnew and we lived over there, and niggas knew I was a rapper and all, and I get in fucking videos. Oh yeah, I'm gonna throw up to see and everything because they're gonna accept it because to them it looks like I'm representing for us. You don't need to you're representing for us.

So that's how we took it. But as as far as artists and banging and all that, Ship I never my personally, I never And I used to hang with Cube in the early days when it was street knowledge and all that. I never got the assumption that Cube was a banger. You know, niggas like us were still wearing bandanas in our pockets and ship like that we were banging. He definitely took gainst the rap and and use it to his his potential. He's a millionaire out

of gains rap straight banging out of conting. But says, if you look at it, it's a lot of niggas right now, who's who's as we would call them in our in our banging days, it's a lot of perpetrating and is now who do ship that ain't whatever authentic and ain't making a gang of bread off? You know? Ship Now it's like Ship, Uh, Hollywood acting and imagery is everything. Now, you know, you don't have to be authentic. You can just look the fucking park. Yeah, there were

like no real bangers in the movie Colors. That was like, I'm it's it's like in the sports world when you're coming up through high school and all that, and they call it. This motherfucker passing the eye test. I don't know what fucking skills he got, but this motherfucker six five two and something pounds. God damn, he passed the eye test. Signed him up. So a lot of niggas

passed the eye test. You give me, I put on a couple of gold chains and some tattoos, with my shirt off and put a rag in my back pocket and be from any fuckingwhere. But nowadays you put me on YouTube and motherfucker's don't know, Ship, I'm passing the eye test to a lot of motherfucker's. Oh look at this nigga. Stick got the chains on and standing in front of the Ferrari nigger got the tats and the fucking rag in his back pocket. Everybody accepting that, did

you hear what he's saying? That nigga said, I will smoke you with the drade. Cold nigga, nigga hardest and motherfucker please nigga, I'm for motherfucking Rhode Island, Connecticut. It don't fuck it, give me, it don't matter. You could pass the eye test, now fuck it true, man, I'm thinking of a guy who seriously passed the eye motherfucker's passed the eye test. Man. I ain't gonna even say no, no, no, that's on six Nine's talk about somebody who made hundreds

of millions of dollars passed the eye tests. I don't he gonna be mad. He he's already pissed at us. Man, he's already. Yeah, you're mad at us, because, yeah, you know who I'm talking about. He passed the eye test because he didn't bang with y'all. He didn't um, he didn't put in no work with y'all, but he passed that eye test. Well, when, well, that's something totally different. Explain that when when when let me let me let

me explain ship. Sheil lived in the hood, just like he said, like like I already got a pass because there, but she went off to college. She'll had both his parents when she went off to college. Everybody doing anything. When I say she wasn't a bona fide a one

hunted should win. That dude that's standing on the block with a pistol should when that dude that was in the car or in the back seat ready to hang out, that motherfucker he never put a red band down in his back pocket on his forehead and say let's go to to swap me. Sheild was never want to look for a compromsation from the other side. You ain't never had a problem with the other side, you know what I'm saying. So he didn't live like we lived. You

know what I'm saying. When he came, he came with money, and he bring that money and then he he got with me, and he said, but when he got with you, he didn't have no money. When it was fern Hill records and so you don't know what you're talking about. Was the very early records. He was, I ain't gonna put his business out there. He had money. When I got out of prison, he looked out for me. That's when me and SI hooked up. Now I'm going to Vegas with ship. Now I'm getting on that damn airplane

with ship. So now we we met this meet this rich white guy giving up money and and down here I am. I'm when I went to prison. It was like, man, I ain't had nothing. I'm a young kid, I'm nineteen years old. I'm you know, fully active into this. Coming home two years old. He goes shop. You know what I'm saying. Now, that's what should run to to our neighborhood. She'll didn't bring no gangster ship to the hood. Ship didn't come and go wild. She came to the hood and say I got a dream. I need you to

help me build this dream. And that's what happened, you know what I'm saying. So that's that's that's the only thing that kept brought to that table, all that other ship. That's what everybody else wanted to think. She'll was never a game member. She can She don't have days where he could sit with the homing and drank a beer and talk about remember this time we was wo He don't have no days like that, so he could talk about being on the plane and flying here and flying there.

But all that other ship, no, no gangster ship, and the death thrower showing the interest in you guys. But you guys already had like three albums out before Death Throwers was established. Three or four had uh what four? I think we was working on. No, we was working on Actually we was working on was it was it? Music to drive By? We were working on Music to drive By? When death Row formed because Shug put Unknown

on the payroll as a producer. That's when they had to That's when they was with the GF ship too, because they got they had coats. I remember Ann came to the studio they had the black leather coats with the hooks on them with the turk coise patches on the back and said death Row. Um, that's when death

Row first formed. Um. So we was already three albums in, you know, and m Unknown was dealing with Sugar as far as production because you know, he was trying to work on the compter on our Music to drive By record, but he was also supposed to be doing beats for Sugar and them for the Convicts when they were over there, because they were supposed to be the first group. I guess, and uh, I know On got into a little confrontation with Shug because he didn't turn beats in on time,

so that didn't work out. Pretty good. So, but we I never had any issues with Shook. Everything was good. Yeah, because he was looking for an artist at that time. Did he ever consider you guys know because we were already signed to Sony, did that matter? I mean, we

were signed to two epics Sony. You know, our contract was straight with them, So it wasn't a situation to where we were signed to an independent and you know, something to where you can walk up on some nigga from the neighborhood and be like, hey, you're gonna let see him dub about the contract or whatever. We We were straight. We were straight signed to Sony, So it wasn't you wasn't going to walk up to Dave Glues

office and do no ship like that. How hard was it back then to get signed to a major label like that because it didn't seem too common like it wasn't in our days of wrapping, you know, it was the like like it is now, which is crazy because now it's the world of independent labels. When we first started, it was the world of independence. Techno hop uh Alonzo with Crew cut u l A Dream Team had a label. Egypt had Egyptian Empire. Uh Ruthless was started. Uh, it

was nothing but independent labels. So um it was. It wasn't heard of for niggas to get major label deals. You know, major label deals was fucking run DMC. You get me h L L COO J with Deaf Jam I mean Beastie Boys, those were major labels. Because even niggas like Eric B and Rock Him and fucking E. P. M D and them cats, they were on independent record labels. I mean. So we just happened to Unknown, who used

to wor his way through fucking Hollywood. For some reason, he had a hook up with Orpheus Records, which was independent but had major distribution through Capitol Records, so he knew the guy who basically worked who owned Orpheus Records. Orpheus Records was the home of Melbourne Moore. Okay, so her husband, Charles Huggins owned Orpheus Records. So somehow Unknown knew the dude who worked for Orpheus. We had a fucking what MAXI single out, This is Compton, give it up,

I give up nothing. They took that ship up to Orpheus. They heard it and because the street buzz on nick gangster niggers in the streets was going because Easy was cracking, n w A was cracking, King T was cracking, Ice Tea was cracking. So they were one of the motherfucker's all, we gotta give us one of them. Real talk, we gotta get us one of them. So we got signed to Orpheus Records, which had a deal with Capital, and

that's how we got our major label deal. Damn that just sounds were just in the right place at the

right time. Gangster rap was was going off in l A Like after Easy and them hit with fucking boys in the hood, Fucking labels wanted them a fucking gangster rapper, and we just happened to be in the right place because we was already making tapes in the hood and the garage and ship like that, and we was able to put together some ship wearing fucking and then ship was like, Okay, it's pretty cool until you know a label. They like our ship. Some motherfucker's got on khaki suits

and fucking band damas and ship. They looked like them in w A Fox sign them. Motherfucker's up man, Ship. I'm on the plane. Three months later they got my first They're on the plane in New York and walking around Manhattan and Ship like we was neighborhood niggas. We tore up the motherfucking room like it wasn't Ship nig We some neighborhood niggas throwing motherfucking chicken out them win doing Ship off the thirty fifth floor, and Ship we

didn't know how to act. We were some niggas from Compton. We didn't give a fuck down out there on the road. How many I know, everybody got to ask what that there? How many niggas? I mean, it's always somebody to tell you something on the reel. In my fucking twenty years or thirty years of touring, we never had a fucking confrontation with nothing. Probably one in tuc signs Nigga. And when that's when nigga, we was banged out to the fullest,

you know, and to sign was full of bloods. And when I say that was probably I mean everybody in that motherfucker. It was about a theater that held about three thousand people. Every motherfucking there had on head bandamas. I kid you not that y'all performing. Oh they loved us performing. But when it was trying to get up out of there, it was a couple of shots went off. We had to because ship, I mean, niggas, let us perform.

That's the crazy ship. We performed through the show. Everything was gravy, but when it was trying to lead that motherfucker man. But other than that man, we didn't travel the country the overseas. That was our only incident. I've never gotten into it with mother. Usually I go to a nigga. Usually I go to a nigga town. I don't give a funk if it's crip or blood affiliated. I go to a nigga's neighborhood and hang with them.

That's how we get motherfucking cool with niggas because we go because back then you had to do in stores and promo tours and go to record stores and signed fucking autographs. And so I'm trying. You're just happen to pull up somewhere with niggas banging, and then they want to be bloods. They want to be crips most of the time. Right, most of the time here nigga's come in, they actually for autographs. You go out in the back, smoke a joint with them. They like, this is our hood,

you know, we're cool with it. And then from there it's just a respect thing. So we tried not to I don't know how you want to put it. We try not to go motherfucking places and agitate motherfucker's and we My thing is, look, we gotta come out here. We gotta make some more fucking money, and we gotta get the funk up out of here. We ain't nowhere near fucking Compton, So let's get through this, motherfucker. Nobody go to jail, nobody ends up in the fucking hospital,

and we're on the plane the next morning. So let's go do the show. Nigga smoked. They we meet a couple of fans, and then niggas would tell you, nigga, I'm on your door at six o'clock in the morning. Let's get the funk up out of here. We don't you know, that's my thing. Don't like you don't know what the fun is going on? Now, we always had that. You know, we're from Compton. Compton is the greatest motherfucking get me, Compton is the greatest place. And then when

you talk about banging, we don't give a fuck. We pull up in your motherfucking town. Get out, nigger, and it's only five of us, and we whoop every motherfucker in here. We won't give fun. That's our feeling. But my thing was, you know some professional ship. You get me. We got these motherfucking white executives out here, You got the road managers out here. Motherfucker's scared, man, So you can't get into situations that these other motherfucker's can't handle.

And then you don't want to go home. And next thing, you know what, motherfucker dropping you from the label because every time you go somewhere, you're beating on motherfucker's, are getting in the shootouts and ship like that. Now that's giving us a bad name. Now we're all in the news. And then back then it's all about gangster wrap is bad and there's bitches, and it's all this type of ship.

So I didn't want to. I didn't want to bring no motherfucking drama to that because we was already getting a hard time just trying to be who we were as artists. You get me. I'm not trying to be a motherfucker that think I'm battered than the niggas in Chicago or New York or Texas or wherever. But nigga, we were hard nigga were hard with the lord's tucker on your heads like she wasn't everybody else's. She wasn't

on my head. But I had a nigger who one of them Centator niggas was talking about the Week Comes Strapped album and all that ship. I mean, we felt like, I don't know ship. We wasn't trying to say fucking every lady is a bitch or a whore or hood rap, but ship in my neighborhood, it's a couple of hood fucking ship like not you, You're not one. I'm not saying that about you, miss or you lady. You know

you sophisticated. I'm not meaning that, So don't take what I say on my fucking record is every fucking female on our planet Earth is a bit or horror. No, but god damnit this. Some girls in my neighborhood funked with me, funk with my nigga from the mob, funk with the bitch from south Side. She funk with all she then't got around. So to me, that's a hood rat. I don't know what you want me to call her other than that youven get me, So that's our term. Don't take it personal. You get me, So we had

to deal with that. But it's just an expression of what I like. I said, that's what we grew up knowing. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't going to get on record and be like our grandmama and know that girls are hardly or she's a fucking funk, that she's a hood rat. That's what we grew up on. That's what they taught us in the hood. So I mean a lot and a lot of motherfucker's got on us because what we represented we was gang banging. All these

guys talking and the bad influence. And now kids across the country is gang banging and killing motherfucker's and blame it and on rap music. It's the dumbest ship I've ever fucking heard in my life. Motherfucker. I don't watch Superman in the morning and put on the cape and go to the top of the roof and be like, motherfucker, you get me. You gotta have fucking sense. And I feel if you raise your kid right, motherfucker, you know you can't. Gang banging is real ship. But at the

same time, music has influence. Man, I never tell you somebody never heard a motherfucking's song in my life that makes me want to take something or do something stupid whatever. It's fucking You could be crying your heart out on the record and saying you went through that, ain't me. You get me. I got the sense to know that ain't me. Or I'm feeling this fucking musician or artists so bad, I feel your pain. Or you're talking about

some heartache or a breakup. Okay, yeah, I might have went through some ship like that, but that don't mean, motherfucker I want to go motherfucking shoot up everybody around the corner. Because on the records you said something, Then, motherfucker that means fucking I can go watch Arnold Schwartz and Ager and watch him kill up every motherfucking America and go le me grab my motherfucking A K forty seven and just start killing motherfucker's and then I'm gonna

get away with it. It happened like that in the movies. I mean, so sometimes on records you have to dig deep into it and just listen to the explanation or listen to what they're trying to do. They're trying to tell you what I went through. Necessarily, you don't have to go through that. But it might be a motherfucking this situation that might ben like minds or whatever. So

just hear my story. That's it. Well, you still got reminded kids out here today and that believes in what you're saying, that believes in the pistol, believe that they have to identify themselves with the hood. A lot of them in my neighborhood. Everybody go through it. You have a you have a lot of kids just don't understand and getting leadership from a father. Pickre, you know what I'm saying. Some don't have a father Pigre. You know what I'm saying. But is that an excuse for you

to go and terrorize. No, No, definitely not. I mean you have to be able to differentiate what's real and in fiction or what happens you get kids. I don't think you can blame the art, but I do believe the art has influence on all kind of negative things. The two dudes that had that forty four minute shootout with the L A. P. D. Back in that was they was watching Heat. They was loving the movie Heat. Dude when strapped and they went strapped and look what

the funk happened at the end. Your movie script is done. Motherfucker you did me. You ain't coming out of this safe and flying off the cube, but with a hundred million in your backpack, you're fucking dead in the middle of the street. Real life is real life. I get it. Listen to my art whatever, and be influenced or be educated, But motherfucker, don't take some ship that is like I'm

on a fucking record. You get me. You're watching the movie and it might say true life story, and most of the time when it's true life, it don't end up in the fucking fairy tale. So learn from this ship. And like you said, as a youth, motherfucker you just got as a kid. We gotta be able to direct our kids in a different fashion. And like I said, I was one of them lost kids too. In the neighborhood. My father wasn't sucking around. I had a single parent.

My mom went to work at eleven o'clock at night to seven o'clock in the morning. We used to have a fucking ball at my career. And I was fucking fifteen, sixteen years old, So I was one of them lost kids too. Out in the street. You know, joining the gang because but then I still was one of my fucker's who was able to differentiate and know that I wanted something better. You get me. A lot of us don't make it out of that because some of us

don't get the opportunity. Rap was my opportunity. Fuck it well, I think James right, there's a lot of weak money people out there that some people are just easier influencing other people. So definitely there's a lot of motherfucker's that's followers and want to be loan. We've got you got even even the police they're finding a way through rap music to convict you. They're finding a way in your video to convict you. Or you got guns and money,

they're coming to take your ass to jail. That's the that's the dumb ship nowadays, that doing like our ship was. I don't know, we didn't do that ship back in our days. But like I said, now you've got access to the internet and social media, it's wide open. You get me. So now you got dudes who feel like, fucking I'm gonna post my guns and we're standing on this block and we over here and over here. It's just an easy way for the motherfucking police to be like,

oh there they go, go get them. Now. I know a g I know a gang of niggas like that right now, youngsters, though you give me so how do you educate? You gotta tell them, motherfucker's that ain't the way to go. I don't give a funk what you're seeing or you thinking, or getting money or whatever. That ship is. Nine times out of ten, that ship gets

you dead or locked the funk up. And if you have a vision of trying to be somebody one day, because motherfucker, I'm telling you, don't let it be prisoned that you'd be sitting in and then fifteen years later you go, oh yeah, man, I should have fucking you know what I'm saying. Now is your opportunity because before some ship goes down and you sink into that pitfall, you gotta be able to to open up your brain to understand that, yeah we are. I struggle like a

motherfucker as a kid coming up. My mama, my mama was one of them, you know, mama, single mama, you know, food stamps sometimes and that type of ship. It was hard growing up in Compton as a single parent with motherfucking man. But you you you, I had a mom who always stayed on a nigger. That's what happened for me. You get me. I don't give for how old I got till I was in the house. I got threatened with fucking beatens and whoopings and phone stone at your

motherfucking head and all type of ships. So you you have to you have to have somebody in your motherfucking corner too. Also, we did an interview with you for that's posted on the Digital soapbas Network, and we learned that your your parents are married. Even though they divorced at the same point, you still had your father in your life. And half the brothers in Compton don't don't even know who their father. I even though my parents divorced and my father moved away, I still feared my

fucking father. He could get on the phone and call me and I get terrified. So I still had that fear because he was in the house when us with us before they separated, and my mom's had to do everything on her own. But and he was in fucking Oklahoma somewhere. But he's still instilled in me some kind of fatherhood type of ship to where I felt threatened if I did something wrong, And even though I was out there trying to gang bang, you know, I didn't give a funk. But let him call and find out.

Oh uh, Mom saw me on the corner with the rag in my back pocket and hanging with like five or six dudes, and ship, I get a call when I get home, and it'd be murder. I think I canna come out there and fuck you up. Did your mom ever want to send you to Oklahoma? Uh? Yeah, I went fucking moms didn't play. But my father was one of them, you know, one of them dudes was you know, Army went to Vietnam type of ship, so he he was kind of he was kind of fucked up.

So I think I was in Oklahoma for about three months and I was like, man, if you're give me the funk about of here, you don't get me the funk up out of here, man, this motherfucker. Man. I love my post to death, rest in peace. But I was like, Mom, if you don't send me a plane ticket tomorrow, are you? Was telling Mom, I'm gonna change. I'm gonna be everything you wanted. Man, get me the funk up out of here. So, like I said, you

just have to have somebody in your corner. And luckily for me, I had a strong moms, even though she was a single parent. You know, we was out there gang banging like a motherfucking me and chill the motherfucker's be like, Liz, I saw your son on the corner with them dudes, and whoop the whoop is he would my mom be like my son on gang bang? I think I'll be walking in the house with the hood hit up all on my sweatshirt and all kind of my son don't gang bang. It was just a way

of life for us, man. I mean that's what you did. I wasn't on sports. Motherfucker. I don't give a fuck. And I didn't start rapping until I was about seventeen eighteen. So from thirteen until then, all I knew was gang banging. That's it. I didn't know ship else. That's it. How's your music changed because you just put out an album when you go twenty years ago now or do you

feel like you're still the same. We we try to, like I said, I try to evolve, you know, grow up as a as a father with with daughters and the fucking son and you know, being able to move out of Compton and be in a different situation. Uh, my music, you know, it stays on the same track because, let's face it, you cannot forget the fans who get you to a certain point. I mean, motherfucker's I grew up with is my fans. My age limit is my fans. They love my music. They still want me to do

records like music to dry buying songs like that. And I try to explain to them today, man, the age I am. You want me to rap about drive by Ms Daisy and hitting the corner with an A K forty seven and ship like that? I said, I can't.

I can't rap about ship like that no more. But I can rap about what I feel is situations that still going on as far as with niggas who still stuck in the hood or you know, the poverty, or motherfucker's just trying to get ahead or just trying to, you know, represent the West Coast with my music into an influential way that it's still trying to stick on the lines of representing content. But it ain't so it ain't so fucking The Tale of the heartbroken, lost, innocent

adolescent young gang banging niggers in the hood. You get me like there's no future with us. Everything is you know, yes to still struggle out there, but we can't take it on like you know, innocence lost in the hood with no fathers around, So we gotta walk around with with with with guns all day and protect the neighborhood and this funk everybody and it's nothing but the hood.

And you gotta show to you because, like I said, I got a son, So I can't be rapping about a k and niggas up and hitting the block with with cavvy and my sock and ship like that and running from the police because I don't want him to get influenced by that. So you just try to make your music in a way that your old fans can respect it and then the new motherfucker's who are listening to music today can adapt to it into what is

going on today. So you just said that it's not that influential, but at the same time, you don't want to influencing your son exactly, I can't. I mean, you have to show people that you can be you know, as a father. You you have to be able to balance it. You give mo what I'm saying because I want to remain true to my fans who got me to this point where I am. But like I said, I can't funk around and give them music to drive

by you give me now. I can give you music on the line of where it's still a struggle and niggas are still stuck in the neighborhood. But I can't show you that I am still one of them dudes that it is influenced by like the Rag, the A K and all that ship because I grew up now you get me. Definitely. I think you could say you've evolved exactly. Music has to evolve with your men. You

have to be able to balance it out. Like I said, you know for the motherfucker's who loved you when you first started into the new motherfucker's who are listening to your music and go, okay, well ship, who is this motherfucker? You know what I'm saying, And if what's going on nowadays, like we can't do that ship because you could lose your family. And yeah, like the way Hammer did when he wanted to go gangster man, motherfucker you put on

pants and you better dance for us. That's what got him. No, I don't want to hear no motherfucker you better not come out no khaki suit talking about riding in the sixth four and all that ship or see him in the speed though I know sitting in the pool. I mean, if you gett't to order, that's when you just gotta buy out. Fuck it. I mean, if you buy out with that good record, don't buy out trying to be somebody you ain't, just to ease the motherfucker' it's the transition.

Like me, I'm not gonna color my hair like a rainbow and god what, that's what they're doing, So fuck it, I might as well do that ship too, because I gotta be on the funk that man. If If a motherfucker who don't like me from back then and don't like the pattern of what I'm doing, that's when it's just time to buy all gracefully, because you can't do what the other motherfucker's do. You don't want to be

no follower funk that all right? Let me tell everybody where they can find us at James McDonald's on Facebook. And I know James McDonald's a common name, but he's the one with the Red Harley and the profile picture. And you could also hit James on Instagram at B I G G J thirty six thirty six and he still has those shirts. James, give them the number for them shirts one more time, because I didn't. I didn't tell people twice on the shows, I had seventy calls.

I sent out forty three shirts in a week. In a week just by saying the first five callers get a free shirt. So I wind up taking all of those defective shirts and giving them away. But and I'm i'm, I'm, I'm sending the posts some of them sending on them, sending me fifty bucks. No, I don't want to free I'm supporting. But at the end of the day, my receipt yesterday was a hundred and thirty eight bucks at

the post office. Shipping costs just sipping. Man. All right, So what you're saying is you don't you don't want to know. Okay, they already they already got your number. And then you can find me Alex Alonso at Alex Alonso one zero one on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. You could also find me on street Gangs dot Com and on the platform street TV or maybe one day, I'll interview eight on Street TV and where can they find

you at and get your latest album? You can hit me up on Instagram at eight oh eight eight Compton and you can hit up hit me up in the link and at a at you the latest album We got to c MW album right now, Gangster Business. You can also get that in the link or go follow the link in it to take you to the website Blue Stamp h blue Stamp Official dot com. And also let me remind people that they could watch video portions of this show on the Digital Soapbox Network that's on YouTube.

And we also have our own Gangster Chronicles merchandise on that page as well. And don't forget to download the Himalaya app and you can also listen to the podcast with the Himalaya app just downloaded, and you could subscribe to the Gangster Chronicles through there. And eight. Where is the most interesting city, whether it's in the United States or abroad, that you performed at and that you you will you'll love to go back and visit it again. M hm. Honestly, ship Japan. I don't know what city,

but every time we go to Japan, motherfucker. The fans is ridiculous. Understand them. We usually have an interpreter, but as far as the fans at the concerts, they know all the words to your fucking songs, but when you get to talk and you don't know what the funk. We were talking on a previous episode, James about how the Japanese people are fascinated with l a gang culture. They called the low Riders about all the games, the low Riders from over here. And I remember the late

eighties they was coming. They was coming from China, Japan, and it was buying all the little riders the cats had every when you go to a little rider show. They was coming up and they was buying five at a time. And when motherfucker's got upon it, they were selling their cards for eight all the neighborhood and started selling their cars. New York Cats was coming out of

here buying three, four or five at a time. Oh, you could easily sell your ship fort Do you think that your Japanese fan base as a result that your music coming out in the late eighties or nineties, or just the genre of your music itself. Do you think the eighties is will kind of give that stamp to the eighties. I just a lot of my ship I credited to the UH, to the movie Minister Society going worldwide, and just for our culture. They like, they love our culture.

I mean, you seem like if you go overseas to Europe, you know, they're kind of diverse. They like a lot of East Coast whatever it is. You know, sometimes a few West Coast artists, but when it comes to Japan, they love l a culture as far as the Raiders ship and the Low Riders and listening to Easy and

Comptence most wanted in that time. They and I think that's just the nature of them being able to listen to West Coast Musich music over the years, and you know, se our difference in the way we be in our culture and the gang lifestyle and the ruggle and all that, and I think it's more fascinating to them. So they really love the ship that we do. I wonder if it's all the soldiers, the American soldiers that live over there in Okinawa and don't know what it is, but

their motherfucker's they love West Coast music. They love West Coast music, and you know, so you gotta appreciate them. And every time I go over there, you know, sold out shows. You know, they don't know every words to your song. They might can't speak a liquid English, but they know them rap songs like it ain't ship. I think the Japanese culture, out of all the different Asian groups there are, there's Korean, Chinese, I think the Japanese

are the most open minded. You see a lot of Japanese dating black people, the Japanese that moved to the United States, and it does kind of make sense that they would be big fans of hip hop. Definitely. Alright, so uh before we wrap it up, um, just give us uh the information again where all your fans can check out your music. They can check us out on my page is eight Compton on inch the gram you can check us out at you can need to check us out on my page on Chills page Chill or

CMW the Boomdocks. We got a blue stamp Official which is the website. Uh, merchandise on that. We got merchandise, We got hats, we got CDs, we got everything cracking. So uh going near order up some ship. I mean the new records is out. I got a record getting ready to drop called Official. Chills, got a project getting ready to drop called foehead. Um. We're working on some other stuff. Like I said, we got a conference most wanted record we just dropped called Gangster Business. So we're

just trying to move still keeping a gangsters. There's somebody that's trolling on every video that I put out on street TV about get M album. Is every video I think I've seen a couple of This guy hits my channel up at least like ten times per interview. That's true. That that's a true fan. Yeah, he's really pushing you whoever that that's that's a true fan. I eat it right there, definitely, all right, So he's still keeping it

um Gangster Blue Stamp Official the website Blue Stamp. Blue Stamp Official is the website, and we're about to start this podcast. To man, it's coming. So yeah, we're about to do that. It's called staff Spot Radio. So we're gonna get that cracking um probably in the next month or two. We're just trying to put it together right now. So we we got a lot of things coming, man. We got more stuff coming in just music, man, we got a lot more to offer. What kind of what

kind of content you gonna have on your part. Now we're gonna be talking about you know, uh, you know, hip hop pass and presents. We're gonna be talking about you know, hip hop news. We're gonna be talking about health and hip hop and and find and financial ship

and and you know health. I gotta do that, be in the in the gym all the time, trying to put you down on the health and the good eating ship and spots where to eat at black owned businesses in the city that we funk with, you know, trying to just give people an insight on something different than just rap music. You know what I'm saying. Real quick, real quick, before we wrap it up. You mentioned earlier everyone that comes into the game is gonna get ripped

off at some point in the beginning. How do we avoid that for the future artists that young late teens coming into the game, or is that just inevitable. Every artist that's new is gonna get ripped off. I mean in my days now now nowadays the game is wide open, so you can prevent some of those pitfalls because a lot of dudes can control all their own ship right now.

But back in my days, in order for you to get on, you have to go through somebody, you know, so either dude signed you the production deals or management deals or whatever, and you never got the right accounting on royalties. You never got to You know. We were young naive cats, you know. And I could say that for myself. I was the young naive motherfucker. I was seventeen years old when I signed a major label deal, you know, And I supposed to you you couldn't have

your parents permission. You have to have your parents permission to sign the deal. I didn't do that. I signed a fucking record deal. I didn't give a fuck, but I signed a production deal. What I known. You know, he knew that ship and we got fucked. Period. Now do you guys own all of Comfortence? Most wanted those four albums? Those are owned by Epic because we were, like I said, we were young naive kid. We didn't know ship about publishing and writers and all that motherfucker's

was still in all that ship. We was just some young niggas from Campton who had dreams of riding in the fucking limo and putting a gold chain on our neck and doing a video. We didn't know the pitfalls and contracts and managers and publishing and splits and all that, and knowing that you get paid if you write your own motherfucking material because we was writing all on ship. Nobody ever wrote our own ship, but other motherfucker's was getting the publishing, So you'd have to buy your own

music back from him if you wanted it. Yes, and that's the probably. It's not even an offering, definitely not. Why would they do that. We're making, motherfucker we get the motherfucking licensed this ship out and do all this other ship. So do you think that ownership of someone else's art should expire after a while, even though you know they did do I'm sure they did a lot of things for your career, but at some point should that ownership expiring and go back to the original artists?

I feel, especially if you write and everything, you should have ownership of your ship. Like you didn't write this ship, you didn't produce the music. So why should just the motherfucker who basically is giving you a loan or an investment because they won't they returned, right, So why should they be able to declare eighty percent of your fucking, your fucking art or your work. Okay, you give me

an investment, not pay you back. Now you want to control of the funds, and that's forever, right, like y'ad damn some of them is, you know, forever. Some motherfucker's may cut you a deal seven years or eight years or whatever. But still, like, why should you get to collect money off of the ship? I thought up in the wrote like that's crazy. Take your investment back or

or whatever, and then let's go from there. But a lot of us ain't smart, like I said, a lot of us just had dreams of trying to make it and get out, you know, so we didn't have the knowledge to get managers or lawyers or motherfucker's in our corner. It was like steying on the dotted line. Hell yeah, like a motherfucker's saying, here go your forty ounce and your gold chain. Nigger, here come to limol around the corner and they can take your ride around the corner.

They you made it, and we was like fuck yeah. We didn't start learning about the business and publishing and ship till after, Like you said, we're still sitting at motherfucking home and got three fucking albums out and touring the fucking country and shipping, and we were getting off the plane, we're going back to mom's house, pulling up in the garage. Something the funk ain't right, especially when the nigga righting. I'm writing all my fucking own music.

So why ain't we getting them hundred thousand dollar advances and them two hundred and fifty dollars. That's because another nigga was collecting it. Another motherfucker collecting the money and pocketing in and here go, Hey, take this three grand, take this four grand. But ship to a young hustler who on the block every fucking day, Nigga, folk grand, Nigga, Please, I'm not to swap me with khakis and white teas. Nigga,

give me a couple of packs to flip. Nigga, rent me a cluck car ship for about sixty piece a night. Nig I'm on you was actually wearing house shoes on one of your videos. I was shopping at the swap me mall. Look at that ship costs a hundred two

hundred dollars for some ship. If we don't go get you some motherfucking you, don't go get you some cortels, a couple of pair of khakis, some a pack of white teas and maybe maybe, and now you was bawling if you was able to get you a hoodie too, But usually you got your motherfucking couple of packs of white tease, a couple of pair of khakis, get you some of them cortess and maybe a cap and nigga, you nigga that sid sneake skin belt nigging you in, Nigga,

that's the most expensive. What about the silk shirt? We wasn't. It wasn't affordable. Man, You gotta manage cause, nigga, you still you still gotta get you a sack now too. You gotta get you a little nickel bag or something. And then for us who was on the block, we got to get a fifty pack. Nigga. That wasn't. That wasn't. Man. When you're working with limited funds, there's certain ships you gotta do. So you have to follow that colde. Nigga. Can you stretch a double up into a triple up?

If you cut it right, and you you're gonna be You're gonna be out all night. Yeah, because you're gonna be. You're gonna be sitting up in the car or somewhere on the nigger it's gonna be cold. It's motherfuck about two o'clock in the morning. But you know somebody coming through. Remember when you're coming, they're coming. I don't give a funk they coming. I don't give a damn. It might be six of us on the block, but fucking nigga, we're rushing the car. Whoever got the goods, he gonna

choose and pick and nigger. That's it now. I remember in the late eighties, if you had an ounce, you might have paid five hundred four and the and the goal was who can cut who can cut more than a thousand out of it? Who can get eleven? Who can get twelve? And if you if you was a master with that razor blade, and that's that's daddy, that's rich right there. Richard was mastered with that razor blade. That montherfuck cut it down the motherfucking thirteen thousand pieces. Ever,

we're coming down thousand pieces of a man. All nickels, they can fuck my nigga, want the full fucking extent of that motherfucking double up. I'm fucking cutting this motherfucking this ounce all the way. I'm gonna be here from motherfucker and four o'clock in the afternoon to tomorrow. You can probably get out of the ounce cutting all Nichols and if you're gonna sell them, fucking they're gonna come through. You just gonna be there all fucking night, all right,

m C We're gonna be looking out for stash Spot Radio. Indeed, James, I'm definitely gonna check it out. We appreciate you coming against Chronicle all day. Man, you know it's been a minute. You know, people have been asking me to come through. So Ship, I'm like, fun it, let's do it, man. Man, I'm we'll be moving man. I'm what it is. Man. I've been coaching football, man for the last fucking but

ten years. So when you're working with kids and football and schedules and you're the head coach and you know, you gotta be at the park at five o'clock till nine o'clock at night, and then you gotta travel and then you got thirty kids on the team, and you know, it's a lot. But that was something that I started doing. So it was taking a lot of my time because

I was like music. Ship was still there, but niggas was letting other niggas do what they do because music just started turning crazy for a minute, so I was like, man, I'm gonna do something else for a minute. So having a son and him coming up and started playing football since he was five years old, that was something I got into. So that took a lot of my time. But I hooked up with my men Big Steal, and uh,

we just started getting the cracking from there. So we're gonna do Stash spot Radio and he got me to come up here and do Gangster Chronicles and I did Still in the Spotlight. So I'm just trying to get out there and get it moving. Yeah, that's Still in the Spotlight is right now on the Digital Soapbox Network. So after you finished listening and watching this episode, go check out that episode of m C eight as well. And on that note, we're out