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Shut Up Ft. Spider Loc

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In this episode of The Gangster Chronicles we have special guest Spider Loc in the house and Big James has some words for Daz Dillinger. The Gangster Chronicles Live is going down October 23rd check our website out www.thegangsterchroniclespodcast.com this Friday for ticket info Support the show. See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information.

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Yeah, have an aggravated battery with a hanger up in the league like then the money. Thanks the line from Lawn Sungs The Gangs to Chronicles, Jons McDonald, Race Jor and Alex Alonso only gas the soup bunk snig. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This is Alex Alonso. You may may be aware of my platform Street TV a K Street Gangs dot com and I'm here with my two co hosts, Reggie Right and James and James McDonald and uh.

I also want to make sure that you check out Reggie Right on his platform Bomb first every Tuesday night at seven thirty pm West Coast time, and you can also get him on Facebook and Instagram at Reggie dot Right dot jr. And also James McDon I don't can be found on Facebook and on Instagram at b I G G J thirty six thirty six. And he's also got those shirts. You can hit him up nine O

nine eight hundred sixty four oh four. And this is episode And if you're new to the podcast, please go back and listen to previous episodes because most of our episodes are interrelated and you won't start hearing me until episode three. Um and if you're on iTunes listening, please give us a rating and review. We really appreciate it. You could rate us from one to five stars. Five

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going to be October nineteen at seven pm. That will be a live broadcast at seven from seven to nine, and then after that we'll have a meet and greet from nine to ten thirty and will be at the French Quarter, Creole Bar and Grill. That's the French Quarter, Creo Bar and Grill um in Bell bell Flower, California. The addresses one six, seven two weight bell Flower Boulevard. So be sure to come out there meet and greet us, listen to the show, and to get tickets, you gotta

visit the Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com website. That's www. The Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com website. So we hope that all you guys in the Los Angeles area will come out and check us out at Bellflower, at the French Quarter, Creo Bar and Grill. All right, so let's get into our show. But before we start the show, I got a couple of fact checks from last week. Last week was our very popular Takashi episode. Guys, but I did make him take last week, I said that

Sammy to Bull Gravano admitted to seven teams. But guess what he admitted to nineteen homicides when they gave him a beautiful five year deal. How many people did he incriminating the process? Oh, he incriminated about a hundred members of all five families of the New York Mafia. Most of them were from the Gambino crime family. And for those who just heard that voice, I was gonna introduce him, but that Spider Spider look welcome, so beat me to

the to his introduction. But now that's cool, you just said such an interesting statement. I just had to let you spark. I always say that Sammy Bull Gravano admitted to more homicides than Jeffrey Dahmer, and he basically walked five years, but then he got out and got caught up in an ecstasy ring. He did seventeen on that and he's actually free. He got out in two thousand seventeen. And then also last week, I brought up Tim tim

Allen as being a snitch. He actually gave up several names in his cocaine trafficking case in nineteen seventy eight and Caluma's Zoo I believe kalamazoos in Michigan. And yeah, he was a cocaine home and made me on the screen Home Improvement. So shout out Tim from alright. So, Reggie, you want to talk about what you brought in this wee yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I want to play something

for James. I purposely try not talk to James Old the last few days because I want to him to see if he heard this and play this for him and get a spontaneous response from me. So I'm gonna play this for you right now. Shout out to all the real names and home girls out there, SACas police officers. Reggie, right, James see uh work Yeah? RUMs from with the dogs like the ship out of you darn men, run out. You gonna no time, no nothing. You're not gonna know

where I'm man. So, James, you know, did you just hear with that little uh little man? Just that to you? Oh? Man, I heard it, But to me that's nothing. You just man. You call me a punk. You don't even you don't. You ain't never funk with me like that. I can call you a punk though you ran from from Trayvon. You ran straight into the police arms with with with drugs in your pocket. You was really scared. But anyway, my whole thing is this, dude, don't mention my name

and nothing. You ain't heard James say ship and it ain't mob James, James clown and you ain't heard me speak on you and nobody else. If I say something, I repeat it. But you want to set your dogs on me and bring your dogs, They're gonna pull back something that they ain't gonna like it. You ain't gonna like it either. You want to find me, my nigga. I'm in Beaumont Shore every motherfucking day, especially on Saturdays. I stayed from the morning tonight when it closed. Come

on up there, dash um. He's just doing that for social media. I wouldn't give it. I don't. I don't talk to that dude when that dude was that death row. I never any one of those cats from the other side. I can say James ain't never socialized hung with because I don't smoke weed. I never found the reason to go over there and hang with those cats. The only time I interacted is when I did Snoop Dogg, and she'll have me out there from for to protect Snoop Dogg.

But Dash, you don't know me like that, dude, And why I can't find you? If you that nigga nigga, say where you at? I know you and uh San Fernando Valley, everybody know you so old, but you ain't even worth looking for. Dude, I ain't even tripping. You know where I'm at. So if you want to come find me and with me, nig I got a fishing

pole in the tackle box. Nigga at the beach, nigga chilling. Now, for those who are just new to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, Dash Dilingers responding to the police report or whatever you're calling that Reggie that you had on bomb first and that we talked about on last week's episode episode about Snoop and Dads, I guess running into the police during that incident back and and it's so crazy that, you know, if this was some ship Reggie just brought up and

run run against the chronicles, I would have said, come on, as we're getting down like that. Reggie been saying this for a long long time and his videos out there that Reggie has totally catched. What the fund? Where the at? You know what I'm saying. So I would appreciate it if you you say, uh, Reggie, I'm I'm ready one hundredult don't get that twisted. But if you hear me say something, then I'm accountable for anything I say, and I'm ready to rock and roll with anything I say.

And that's that's anybody, that's anybody. So little dude, Joe get down. Ain't even like that. So knock it off Audio two and then we'll go in and we'll get into something else because we're not gonna be linger on these uh on the subjectute on we go ahead and play this one for me, So y'all can hear a response from Ship Night regarding this as well. Snooper never come. I mean snoopers on you know, we'd be the murder

trial form. But then he was on probation. Then he got car with two ounces of marijuana, then he got car with goods, and each time it's nothing that's not gonna validate him. Because for the street guys, street guys know what I'm talking about. It it's no puzzle. I mean, if you get a guy that constantly getting in trouble and never gonna come to prisoner, that's because he's a former. He's a raight snitch, you know. And they're more important to the police on the streets then and here because

they let them know what's going on. They might say they sold by ten on three or four five other guys. You know, I'm from Compton. I'm all right as the lords. You can go all right or do anything, alright. Cool. So that's some audio. Most of y'all probably might have heard it before. But that was just a shig Knights response to hearing about the paperwork that I soon put on put on him back. And so I just wanted to refreshing some of your memories and educate some of

your young motherfucker's at all. I don't know anything that this paperwork has been out there and as far as Dad's with the police comment, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, back in the nineties, I was a cop and but you know as much as anybody when they came to doing some other ship, going to the locations and stuff like that. When I had you niggas bitch up and PC up in Hawaii and all of that, you know,

I was all the first through the door. But the cool thing about it is when you was running the death road, you and Dads was kicking it, you wouldn't miss the police officer. Then, nigga, you ought to feel bad about sucking with the cop. What whether it was business or not. If you was that nigga, you wouldn't have been doing that. Man. Every morning, we shoul would have been going to his house. So man, say that ship.

You know, niggas make their self look bad. That's why I said, it's important what you do today, that ship gonna follow you to more and every day after that. So if you if you don't sunk with the police, then don't woke in front the beginning. You ain't gotta worry about this type of ship happened to you, all right, So we're gonna continue this conversation about Takashi that we

had last week. But before we start the conversation about Takasha, there's a couple of things in the news that I wanted to touch on real quick, and this is pretty huge. On September, the Florences and a bunch of East Coast crips had to sit down face to face meeting at the old Juvenile Justice Building on seventy six and Central after about a month, a month and a half of conversations I started in early August to end their truth, to end their war, and one of theirs, one of

the most bloodiest wars. Let me finish. Let me finish the one of the most bloodiest wars. No, I wasn't. No, it was at the Central and we got Spider Spider look in the house today as a guest. And I know you mentioned it on one of your videos. Yes, I am a former member Quiet, a fluent active member of the East Coast Chris myself, so I was kind of interested when I heard the fact that they met with such a agreedious enemy. Yeah, it's real, it's real, it's a real deal. On the last when we had

you in here, you didn't think it would happen. Uh I mentioned it, I wrote it up. Would you just like suggested it could possibly happen. I've been hey, well, I've been behind the scenes trying to work on things like this for Saloot Saloop because you know, I'm I don't want to say, you know, I'm pieces positive period. You know, we are trying to prepare our environment for the next generation. So there's the legacy that we have left and have participated in. It's not what I'm trying

to see um continue into the future. So anytime any two powerful groups can sit down and talk about piece, I think it's a positive thing, especially when everybody knows what he started over and the people that are involved in the war now they did not benefit from the initial act. They have some of them, the youngest dudes, have no even idea where all came from. So I

think it's a good idea. Yeah, there's some youngsters that weren't even born in the front right front line, and they are the majority of those that do not want to cooperate. And of course you have that energy that's not gonna go with That's absolutely true, Spider, Because I was at a meeting there was at least man. I gotta say he wants have been about years old, just mad dog in the whole time, just like man like

not happy that this is going on. But of course all the older guys folding over the facilitating, they try to talk to him. But I can see this energy that has I can say that I can definitely relate to both sides of the spectrum because that thank you, as much as what he represents his wrong, him as an individual is not wrong. That energy has to be dealt with, redirected, eliminated at all costs. Eventually, But when the people that raised you to be the demon you

are out of nowhere, throwing you for a curveball. You have to understand his confusion when he's probably attended multiple funerals based on this scenario. Uh, you know, I just know it's Uh, it's a real complex and situation we can't make. I mean, all of that is true. That's why you have and the truths don't last. And with the bloods and the crypt and crypts against crypts, bloods

against blood because blood shied. You know, you've got people killed, hearing people killed here, and you got some cats can't take the back or sit next to a guy that killed somebody, you know, so what. But in order for it to work, these guys got to understand the big picture of this and trying the truce is to stop to kill it. Let's stop killing each other. Let's focus, you know what I'm saying, because right now today I don't understand why. I know everybody's seeing what Donald Trump

is doing. I would stop my shenani is just because of that, you know what I'm saying, And we need to pay attention. They don't give a funk about us. So if they don't give a funk about us, and we don't give a funk about ourselves, sooner or later it's self destruction. You feel me in extermination and and we don't understand that. So the old geez that's that's still active in the hood. I see a lot of guys on your videos that still got cloud in the hood.

You need to really get to the little homies that feel like that little brother dude, because that little brother he ain't rolling, he ain't misguided. He just talked to be a certain kind of way and he representing what he believes in. But here's the difference on on the Mexican side. You got them staying youngsters there that feel the same way. But but as soon as the old g says, it's over them little youngsters. But you gotta understand, just take the mind frame of you being a young

dude twenty five under and your road dog. All y'all have been your whole existence, and this was that killer, that killer. He dies in the midst of that. How do you disrespect the bond you have with him by going against Now I understand the mature answer, But how do you translate to the young individual who every day with my road dog we pledged to this. He's not here to agree with me to do the positive thing.

You translate to him like this, we got a bigger picture now, no, no, no, no, no, no. How does he except that himself? Like nobody's around, it's just him and he's thinking about his dead his dog. When he got to think about it. He gotta think about it. It's the bigger picture. We're talking about life. And if you're twenty five years old, you you gotta brance them, you know, Okay, I gotta I gotta relate to this because I ain't getting no younger and they ain't going nowhere.

We gotta get out of this circle. So he gotta understand. Okay, I'm always little Hood. That ship is right here in the heart, but the bigger picture is stop. You know what I'm saying, Not just for it. I mean maybe the homie is saying, man, you see what happened to me, and she would have to be I don't want this to happen to you. Get out of that exactly, you know what I'm saying. And if the big homies really cherished the little homies and and want to see this

ship over with, stop you get at them like that. Man, We're looking at the bigger picture now. They got to see from the beginning to the end. Because this was never your fault. You was born into this ship, the war was already going on. Anything before ninety nine, the war was already happening. And if you come after that, you're doing it just because the Hood is doing it. Right, we gotta accept our losses. I lost a lot of

motherfucker's through the game, Bang and Ship. But right now to day, we gotta understand we can't bring them back. I don't want it to happen to me. I don't want to happen to my brother and nephews. So let's cherish was was still alive. Let's fix it. Well, a lot of people are skeptical, even though they had to sit down last week. There's some brothers that are little skeptical. They like because the Florence has reached out to the east coasts. They're the ones that said, hey, we want

a truce. So the question is like, why now while all of a sudden And also I want to throw this in that some of the Mexicans that were involved in this truce were also that these guys are in prison were also involved in the truth between the North Daniels and the Soudaniels. And we all know if you've been to California prison, you know that divide between Orthdaniels. And let me tell you a smart things. I knew that was coming. This is not smart. This is a

forty year This goes back to the sixties. Do Mexicans is looking at Donald Trump? The Mexicans is mad the way he treating their people. So funck the fighting. We ain't gonna do this. We ain't gonna look like ignorant motherfucker's that's telling you never I never thought about Mexican man that they pay attention to politics, they pay attention to their family, and they saying, this motherfucker's driving us through the mud Mexicans. So the Mexicans ain't doing how

we're doing it. They say the legs called truths. Ain't no more this and no more that, And they're doing it the right way. Because Dr Trump can't speak on you no more. They can't call us animals. We we we demand the truth. So they reach out to the brothers. It's like it's in the same bag. It's only on them. It has to come that direction because not to use the he were victim in a negative sense. But when the incident comes and you were the victim in the situation,

it's on you to finally say I'm not mad no more. Yeah, who you're calling the victim? The war began because something was taking from wasn't it taking It was the Mexican stuff that was taken. Yeah, So therefore someone was taken from you. You have been victimized. Oh yeah, so it's on you to say, I'm no longer going to be revenging this situation, got it? You know what I'm saying. Once I take something, it's like, however, you feel. It's how you feel. I'm not gonna come to you and

say forgive me for taking now this piece it out. Yeah, it's on them. It's only going to come from that direction. That. Yeah, that's a great point. You've been banging it out for a long long many you know how many people they've been banging it out for a loan loan. I think it started in so years right around there. Twenty years of stranges and people, you know, they lost. People have been killed on both sides every single year of this war.

Ain't no like long periods of peace. I think based on that incident, I think the Florences is the most black style banging gang. It is probably probably they probably got more hitters than any other Mexican gang in in l A period East. In fact, if you compare the Mexican gangs in East Lanta Valley to the ones in South l A, guess which Mexican gangs are more violent.

The ones in the South South l A because they're hanging out with all the brothers, and the brothers are way more active than any of those East l A, Boil Heights or San Fernando Valley gangs. So you got thirty eight Street, pretty active. They banged like brothers. Florence has to forgotten them down in the thirties and the

bottoms is who this wicked period. It's just they take it individually on how you how your banging gonna be, because you've got a lot of kids out there that's talking like they really with it, and and with that situation at all, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying primary there's Dillingen, is it is it? It's crazy man Howard, And I'm glad the truth is there because that that's his name, James, what is it del mar are not? That's his name, that's in the paperwork that Reggie got

on first. What your point tho about it? It's just, man, it's is time that it happened, and I'm glad it has so. And then I'm even hearing the kitchen is over there in history with those kitchens and Swans are at the table, and I want to shout out little doctor from six nineties Coasts. Little is the one pretty much that really is instrumental in the communications with the Mexicans from Florence. I got it. I got a courtion

for spider, sir. What happens with all the law enforcement in l A. If the if the bloods and the cribs get together and the Mexicans in the black sat fighting, what happens to their job? That's just funn That's just because I remember, I remember from the nine and remember I remember when we tried to forge Piece of ninety two, there were reporting police officers doing dry by hitting people

square between the eyes and high speeds array. So we have to realize we are up against an enemy that had usualized the law enforcement to push their agenda highly. So if we somehow stop giving them that direct action with the street wars, we're going to sophisticate ourselves because they're gonna still be coming at us one way or the other. We're making a lot easier for him by out here with this trivial red blue game. And we

have to get beyond that. But you gotta stop. And if you do that, the police lose their jobs because they don't. They don't they're not gonna they already have they got, but they want. They woted on them for. But one thing could happen that they don't have to expand their enforcement detail. They don't have to grow somewhere else. Yeah, well, wear signed him somewhere else. Get get make up, stops

killing us. We give different rules from the police in our areas and everywhere else we have the police our sales man. Let's police ourselves, all right. The next war that we gotta fix is the one, the one on the West Side between a Mexican gang called eighteen Street and the Black Peace Stones and the Rolling twenties. But here, you're gonna hear it here first. Within a year, that war is gonna be over within a year, that war,

all right. So last week we had this incredible conversation about Takashi, and since then, I mean, there's been so many developments in this guy's trial. I don't know where to start. But how about this. The his personal driver was actually working for the FEDS the entire time, so they wired that whole car for video and audio just like a plan had to be was put the Takashi hired this guy, but he all didn't do that. Bull

You think Tashi already knew man. I just watched videos of Takashi with with with what's the what's the guy name in jail? Now? Shot shoddy in a in a robbery in a shooting. He's been in on all of this. Ship man. That dude wouldn't just this just didn't come off, no phone call, and I don't know I want driving. Let the kidnapped. When they was asking that dude come with us the way he kept saying that in her name, I'll give you anything. I think the name was marv

her Har har. He's like he sounded like he knew he was being recorded. Okay, horse, okay, horse, you know I just go bad. You know who when you're doing this to me? It's horror. He was planet because if something you were never known about it, they would have just uh, they would have just had him taping and filming and and doing all of that stuff and you would have never heard about it until they were done. When he has a snitch and then they would have

liked institution only for life, how you work informants. So so the question is how did he how did he start? Then the driver Jakashi, how did he wind up hiring this? Just somebody to driving. Here's a cloud chaser. This this is what this age win and social media. That's all he was. He wasn't planning about the government. Now the government had contacted him before he got arrested and was working in and for how long we don't know. But he knew the arrest was coming and he knew what

was going down. But he was not always an informant. I don't agree with that. And he wasn't playing in by no c I a hold. So he just beating you and ship because he's just cloud chasers in court. And now he said, oh I got video of that show what got to be real? But itselfs so for fegge bro, he said, he said the video tap the so the world would know he was responsible for that. Like you ready that off. The kids are stupid, are

stupid like that? So the driver could have just been some innocent dude that was every day got caught up. He got and they turned him. I don't think the driver is part of a conspiracy. So the driver, I mean he got turned. Yeah, he got turned definitely. I thought he was ANBI. He got the rested for some immigration ship or something. I don't even think he spoke English. Yeah he got so they turned him. But then then

once they realized, oh he working with the foods. You know, we got we're working We've been working in for the last two years, We're gonna turn you. I have been on the reason he got turned. I've been looking it up and then looking at him and then you know him and and uh, one guy on the on the show was talking about Jim Jones. You know, Uh, Cardi B. What does this dude? What is this intent? Yeah, Jim Jones was running this mouth and got caught on tape

and they went to him prior. That's why he didn't get arrested because he got turned. That's why he never got brought in. Do you think when he was having that phone call he was aware? No, but they can't played it to him. I said, this is what we got on you. We need X Y and Z A B C D. That's why he went on that show. For a while, I was wondering what happened? Why did he just all of the the sume. So I've been on Loveing hip Hop when his wife was the biggest two

on there. They were going through ship then. So you don't think that Jim Jones is gonna later get charged or arrested for something. Now, they would have wrapped him up in that case. So that was the case. They already had it. But they've learned of it afterwards, then yeah, they would have combined him in the night. They arrest everybody. Hey, they just decided on said they were picking up everybody except our informants because technically Jim Jones is making terrorist threats.

He threatened, man, like just like if I was a snitch. Guess who just just did that? We just played listen to some modio or something like that. Your boy dass, I didn't say the name, Alex said, I'm just answering your question. He's a probation right now for that weed. Man. But anyway, let's move on in Atlanta. Huh, remember you know, I think we just want but that's when you went you went down South. Yeah, all the South is really

hard on marijuana, trust me. Yeah yeah, but that's hopefully that's gonna change because marijuana is not as a serious drug as marijuana than continued. Yeah, alright, So also on this TCA things, I think one of you guys just mentioned, Yeah, James, you mentioned Jim Jones recording that was played in court. What was the whole purpose of playing that audio recording of Jim Jones making threats in court? I didn't understand that.

I haven't been following the case. Why why I do that and he's not Yeah, he's not part of the case. I guess they just want to establish that that there was a threat against who was I'm not he's talking to someone else about we need to he needs to be DPD or whatever they were saying. Whoever you're talking to you, I don't think named male something. Isn't that the same person that was speaking to the other dude on the phone too, Uhi was on the phone talking

to him too. I'm not sure it might be wrong, but I'm thinking, Wow, these guys are going to eventually get arrested too, because they're talking some serious about when a shot And I think the male nigga too with shott he was talking about I'm a feed him and he was telling him that nigga on there to my trade way and they was having them back and forth about would need to have two to phone conversation. I think the nigga male was talking to Jim Jones, ain't

talking to Shotty. I could be wrong. Well, some of these these conversations audios show that there's a split in nine Trade, the ones that was down with Shoddy and then the ones that was down with her or har and I guess Takashi sided with who he went with shot. It seemed like he was playing both sides like Chatty

had most control. But when when whenever they kidnapping a legy was happening, he was telling the nigger, I want to be down with you, but they wouldn't give me your number and all that old ship, well it was obviously when he did the second Reference Club interview that but then he knew something was going on. He was charged up. He knew because he did a three eighty degree on him and so three sixty he was playing with his life. Well, you ain't supposed to know yet

though he was supposed to know yet. This is before he got innight it allegedly or arrested. That's why when he knew something, that's why he did that switch. His nigga's been kidnapped you and all that that was authentic nowhere in the world. You just go cut in front of the radio in that city talking about Still the question as is he jed he's not justified and what he's doing. But with the guys that vid him up Georgia kidnapping all that ship, there was no lawyer point.

But to think about it, it it is from our standpoint, if it got that funky, it was trying to man up and go to war. That's what it should have did. That's what I told you last week. But he didn't do that. And even if you're not built that way, you don't pull down the whole hood. You might people who allowed this dude who was putting his head on female bodies in his most latest videos and he was

exploiting this rainbow culture. You gotta blame the dudes who was standing next to this dude, accepting him and telling him the secrets and allowing him to the power to even betray him, because he should have never been qualified. Bro, this dude was comfortable in that gutty video of putting his face with the facial tattoos on a female's body would have bikini my nigger. Come on, how do you relate to that kind of dude? And they should have.

They shouldn't let that happen, not at all. If you would somehow gonna try to manipulate this dude and use employ his advantage, he should never put in a position where he could turn around and knock your whole empire down. Y'all. The ninth Trades were sloppy the whole. It's not this, this is all over the place that that that who is just letting rappers and and and I wish the word for it superstars in the hood. You know what I'm saying, You got people getting paid forward. You know

what I'm saying, Smucker's looking out for you, bringing you around. Yeah, you go people. So you got to think about who you bring to the neighborhood and what you expose them to. They would be satisfied with a lot less just to be affiliated. They are satisfied for y'all to try to really give them so much. Rest in peace to the late grade. But because he was over exposed, over involved,

we no longer have Mr Shakour. And that's what happened over it implicate somebody over involved them and they have no idea and just because they're not scared, they'll jump out there and not realizing this wave is a lot more stronger than you thought it was. And that's what I meant last week when I put Tupacs to Cord, I said they were a parallel. Somebody hit me up saying,

why would you compare Tupacket to Kashi. I just said, there's some parallels between Takashi, Chris Brown, Little Wayne and all these dudes don't really understand what they're jumping into it. It's and we got I had to go first to fix this. Clear. I'm not talking about to you what you saw. I'm talking about what he talking about. He didn't understand that because he didn't he from the hood. He didn't understand that game part. But he's from the hood and so he knew it was some good old ship.

How are you gonna know? He was in l A for a few months and he's just he was. What it was did was was somebody that was born in in the mob. If they was on should have what

it did. But I guarantee you if podcast not being a new booty to the game, your home wies probably would have same, baby like, it would have been some dissing and Nigga would have been on some I don't believe the real thing that niggas would have got that active in that environment, even if they seen each other fick each other off in this, it wouldn't have went that For the fact that you had somebody that wasn't immediate from our culture involved who wasn't opark, who wasn't scared,

and he wanted to show the niggas he was with that. That was the fact. That's why you had to go to such a high level. I think you're talking about what happened at the casino because because he couldn't go back then the rapper did that Tom talking about. But Tupa was such a real nigga. When you come around wolves and you want to be accepted something is just want to be excted, have done it. He wanted to earn he has in Atlanta, he every time he reacted

like that, That's how he reacted. And and my whole thing was Atlanta was a compting cat. All the niggas from the mob same place, comtan cat. The homies should have took kid that cat because Trebon had That is not saying, I'm just saying Tuparc shouldn't have been in it. But he got in it because he felt a part of these dudes, so he took the initiative. Like in every state you just said that he would have did.

Nobody did not affect that two part in tupucs take off on the motherfuck Nobody deny that he did it in all these different places. But what I'm saying is now you got a different element, some different Yeah, he took off on the cat in Atlanta. Won't come back and retailiate. No, I adn't say that said that, it's what you try to say. I only try to say

because the homie was a crib. He was dealing with some legendary energy, bro, some ship that wasn't gonna it was gonna go that way regards so who the other block had of man died, Bro, he died. I think who's in Oakland would retaliated like that? I really believe dudes a lot of the twenty one territories that are reality those cases, Bro, you didn't have two sections who already had such tension building up. It was like the ice and on the cake with him coming Lakewood Mall.

Who is gonna cross paths? They don't like each other, they're other than them to group. And how many times we had incidents after lake withd Mall with different all different types of questions, not just the southside of some clicks or whatever you want to call them. Othern state they don't have issues that we ain't talking about it I'm just telling you that niggas have problems like that, and they in their class night, ain't they big home.

You gotta think the time framing was in with death frow Men to the world, where all that all that played a part in everything that was the perfect It's not even it's basically just the game mentality. Let's go here, just the game mentality. You see bloods, you see crips, I'm gonna play it out. What's that blood? What's that

the gut? And we get in it. That's how it goes at the mall, Serrito small heart thumb where I don't care what mall yet, I don't care if it swash spec or whatever wet we just said last week. That's thug niggas in every motherfucker state, county city, and I think they click up like that too. They have. I'm not saying that. If they clicked up like that, you gotta fucking blood that just had a fight with

the nigga the lake with mall that nigga. You spotted them first, which alway should be ma at of train, not not pop a. Nobody to see that again, that's what everybody thinking, know that, but nobody to get me a twisted about about Puck. What I'm saying about Puck Park didn't handle this business and in so many different on so many different occasions and different cities, states or whatever.

At the MGM, I say that situation was totally different because the man that had the incident, it's already a thug nigger. The guy he had the problem with is right there, so he should address that situation. And the homies take that ass. This some game banger ship. This is what we own. This is all I'm saying. We're on some game bankers. Trayvon position on that James is that he was coming back to his big homies meaning Neckball Country, and should to inform them. Can I fight

that dude? Then he don't need to be in the hole. How old he's twenty two at a time I'm talking about now, Okay, we're talking about this. Okay, even ato he I'm just telling you his position, James, because I was in the hotel. You were aware. You don't heard no, I'm talking about it. We ain't got no damn rules. Well, I'm just telling you what you're telling me. But and I'm gonna here to set that record straight. I'm gonna tell you what he said. Okay, funny right any any minute. Okay,

men you're hanging together. You don't ran into a cat that you was when you was a police officer and you y'all had a fight. Now you've seen him, I seen. Should I take off on this motherfucker? You're gonna take off on him? And then I'm coming after that. May come to you and say, James, I'm about to go off on this nigga right now. You with me? Well, that's what he should have said. That's what he's saying.

He said, he said he was asking this big ones trains saying he was asking his big on me bounty neck and you know the code thing. But what he say, I know, Trey vins with it. I was in the in the jailhouse and watch him fight, and he did his thing as a little homie. He did his thing. See everybody be they listen and then they try to

take it from take away and what you're saying. What I'm saying is if you live in that game bang in life and a man jump you and you see that man again, there's no questions as he jump in that ass, I'm gonna go fight now. The odds or even in your side, because you got fourteen fifteen other cats right there. As soon as they see the squabble is on, it's on. And I'm only saying two should grab that dude by his shirt and he's gonna take off like that. Well he probably he didn't, but the

spirit was won because shout out to them. He went and participated. So he went on the page of not knowing because when you saw him, you should have been like, get getting rabbit or go to the grab him. So lit he took off and then they grabbed him of film. They got him off for him, and they took over it. They got funk off as soon as he ran up there and funked off the way they had no business partness playing neither no should gets paid. But sure that's

what happened. We started and he wasn't. If you want to know the real he was breaking it up. Oh, he just slipped his don't start, don't start that ship, don't start that ship. The video showed him kicking you know. He wasn't like that. What's coming about was doing Wait a minute, just like Jupac Shug was doing his mob motherfucker thing too. Yeah, keep it jim Me, he ain't. Jimmy wasn't. He said, shook them Graham niggers, but they throw ship. But we're talking about niggers down. I'm talking

about period period. We're talking about that. I think has a point. Maybe she just did one pick just so that people can say he was a part of it, but not wanting to be a part of it. He snuck one in. He stuck one in. It's hard enough to do when you amongst you. He would wind up not to be going wilding out like like the rest of the one. But didn't get for that. Yeah, one movie. I just took him third teen times on the bench before to determine that he made a kick. That's how

sneaky that kick was. Okay, I mean I don't want to Yeah. The only thing that gets me there to say that, because I understand what you're saying. If park was, if it would have been like a conversation, I'm about to go there and get that mother, I'm about to go and then yeah, yeah Parco get him or something like that, then I agree with you. He just took off asked this question like this to me. He's the

way explained to me, he said. Throughout the time that the beef had been brewing, the nigger pocket got used to hearing Orlando name. And then when they was in that in that lobby, somebody said there we go right there and just took off right there when he said there we go right there, right there. Yeah, but he just signed, he just signed his death certificate right at

that moment. But you've never seen his face. That's deep when you look back from that point and then start because somebody should have known baby Lane's resume and said this is not the place to do it. And then you're driving around hanging out the car moments after, like everything is hunky dory. No, we don't see no otherdence of them hanging out the car. Well, that's what the witnesses that we're on that, yeah, because that's what Keep and the girls said the same thing. They just said

he Holland and called him. The girls that were that pulled up on the side said the exact same thing, said that they were Holland Park. The girls holling. They said Park was hanging out the car. They say that now that there was two there was three girls in that car. Two of them did an interview about two hang out. He just said he invited them to club, told him to follow him, follow them to the club. But you know how easy it is for that small detail to be hanging out a little bit. Talked to

him out the window. He was doing enough to be noticed by other people driving around. Question to gangster because he said he couldn't shoot from the driver's side. What Gangster came, So, I mean you got forecasting the car on three. I'm saying I don't want the gun. So Orlando was the only rotting and that month, bucker keif you got the pistle right here, all he gotta do is tell the driver Ben down, you go over his shoulder and pop up up talking about I would have

done it if I was on that side. That's what he said. I never know what he said after at the place, after eleven or whatever, he gave the gun to his nephew to Orlando, he said they were on that side. So he was trying to pass the gun the big Drake. He wouldn't take it. He wouldn't take the gun from Drake. So Orlando reached across team and fired the shots. If he was on my shot, that's what I just said, he didn't say that. No, you said you got a questions his gamester because he didn't.

He didn't. He didn't have to care what wasn't. We don't talk about this discussion at times, and I mean, up, I'm just sending those people out there to be fact checking, and I'm just saying, all these rappers that want to involve themselves in street ship and end up something happening. You know, Pox should have stuck to rap, just like the cast. You should have just stuck to the music, stuck to the rap, stayed away from the nine trade stuff. But of course he wanted to get himself involved, just

like a whole bunch of other rappers. You can't replace the Tuparc, No you can't. He was a treasure back then. He was one of a time back then, and he should have been nowhere around that stuff. Well, he's gonna be around it because I want he shouldn't be nowhere around it because of that. I said the same thing about Nip. Nip should have been standing up hanging out on slosting and ranch. He wasn't hanging, he wasn't posting.

He was coming to his sep of business. I believe that day on that day, but you have hungout and but I don't know if he hung up because he's been the biggest any day hanging hanging. Hanging didn't cause his debt, It wasn't fronting himself verbally in politics. That he could have been right there all day and not engaging that conversation and never but if he wasn't there, you want had that conversation. We have gamebakers worldwide. How do you keep just guarantee he won't encounter that cat

elsewhere and had that same conversation. But but the choices we make, I mean, just like Sugar had options to like stay away and non nobody know where yet because he had multiple spots finished, yeah, multiple spots. So if she wanted to interact, but he could have had meet him, hered met him there, like you know what, you dude, You know what I'm saying. He didn't have to come to the hood. You don't have to put yourself in the situation, especially when you live in a different way.

Everybody in the hood just trying to find a way out that mother out that motherfucker. But when you find your way out the motherfucker, you find your way back in it. And then we have situations, Am I right? And then that's what takes us down. You don't have to come back to the hood to feed the motherfucker. You don't have to. I made it out. I don't think that our music is the only seemingly black a successful group of people who had that burden, like they

can't shake the basketball and football. Everybody get gone. I'm gonna why is it about this Wrappers? I think Snoop I know something, Snoop just connecting themselves from Long Beach, that Manute long Beach Nicker just made that Snoop check in a couple of years ago. And yeah, so we don't want to use a bad example for an example. I'm just curious as to why is it so prevalent in the hip hop community period, even though all don't participate. Why do we see so many examples Moss bur died

being not separated from his success. But that's truly living that life, you know what I'm saying. But I'm and that goes back to the choices that we make when we get up out of here. Go ahead, No, I'm just gonna respond to I just want if anybody had to put the things that like I've seen you on I G one time to do when niggas check your G car? What did you go? Do you want to high school? You were walking around you what's showing everybody? What you mean? I can't I can't be there and

what you mean. And for me personally, I can speak for myself and explain my motivation. I don't know nothing

but those environments why, that's what their defenses. Some people like we spoke spoke up earlier, and I know these are like extreme cases to Chris Brown, the Soldier boys, they don't know those areas they're breaking and to get there and familiarize themselves with affiliate Like when you say you ain't post to, I don't know nothing else, And it might come across like I think trying to do some extra stuff. But when I went to the high school, guess what, I was going to my son's football game.

Just happened to be in the area that this dude was speaking on and I went there. But I was gonna be there regardless of my interaction with that dude. So it's just you know, you know, they gotta go anywhere. You don't tell me where. Understandable, understandable, but yeah, Man, it's just the choices that we make, you know what I'm saying. And we ain't made it out the hood. But if I make it out of here, I know I know how to get back without being there. I

know how to give it back. And that's our problem because we think it's all glammour and and and all this, and and we like that exposure and in the feeling a certain kind of way. When the come to you and want to embrace the luck, you don't need that. You can do all that and give back without being in the hood and putting yourself there, without even having the police think about how you getting down. Take a couple of the homies out the hood and show him this,

and show him that that's giving back. Now, now two homies come back to the hood, that's it's some more and we out of it. But to come back it's the rub ship and people faces pretty much. And then now we get caught up in the same motherfucking ditch that was that was dump somebody out that pack, gonna want more what you got when you quit giving it to him. Now it's time to fuck this nigga. Man.

It's an old saying. Man, I climb up that letter, and you got a motherfucking down at the bottom of the letter, grabbing you by your ankles, putting you down, putting you down. So we just got to think better than what we're doing. When we get this money, we look like fucking idiots rich because the white boys ain't accepting you anyway, whether you got the money or not,

you know what I'm saying. So we take our money and were sucking all fulishing females, and and and and you want to go buy half a million dollar car, you can do something else, go go somewhere and relax. But one thing I learned dealing with shugar. Rich people are very unhappy. They don't have too many friends, so they find something to do. Either they can go chasing drugs or they go chasing and find somebody and they don't mind that person getting them. Rich people have have

they They all fucked up. You don't get a twister. The money don't bring happiness to you at all, even though most people believe that. But we gotta, we gotta, we gotta get better with ourselves than one one of my youngest most uh, he comes from royalty damn here, he's ha white have um Japanese, never wanted for nothing, grew up in the pool house, just committed suicide. He

was transplant in America from Arizona. Been living out here like ten years in these Hollywood laws, paying high rent, modeling, doing everything you want to do. When he just dold itself. It's black, white, white meets with Japanese. So just to give to your point that you know, having everything we think we won't don't necessarily solve that problem. How many homes you had in the hood that that mom and daddy was rich but they still wanted to be from the hood and game back and wind up in a

penitential How many cats arresting like that? You don't have to do what we just do it. You don't have to live like that. Why do you put yourself in that situation? Just like rich kids. Ain't nothing happening in Beverly Hills. All excitement is in a free mind. I want to go up here to that white boyd that was claiming nine oh from Pallas Verdies. You ever talked about him at Actually I actually got a chance to meet him and chopped up with him. He actually got

put He actually wasn't even living in Palos Verdes. He left his family's house because of the same thing we're talking about. His mom and his father were the most depressing married couple and he had to deal with that. So at the age of fifteen, he met this black kid and he moved in with this black kid, and he called his mom, that kid's mom his new mom. And then one day that kid says, hey, let's go up to um let's go up to Sportsman Park. I'm about to get put on. You should get put on

with me. So he gets put on. What He's been living in South l for like two years now, but he's still going to school in Palos Verdie. So he actually got put on. Was was doing everything, but the parents got money. The parents got money. He came up with squeaky comparents on a beautiful house and Palos Verdi. He took some nigs around the corner. They jumped out, they jumped back in his car and just like a million of the niggas, he didn't get washed like every

other driver we heard about all our life. Yeah, but I gotta add this. Then he end up with the build to get he end up bailing out. But the laws have recently changed on the cupability of drivers on two cases in two thousand and eighteen where similar to Terrell's case, and then we were found not guilty both

of them. Dude from five do Hoover, Um Somage Wells from five Do so Hoover was a driver and the jury found him not guilty, and then Terrell gets found not guilty right after I expected it not guilty because you could argue as a driver, I did not know they were going to do that. And it is any a lot of guys, it's called room nineteen or something like that, that a lot of cases getting over returned down for that when people with the family murder rule

is pretty much getting kind of getting kicked out. That's why I always wondering about Michael Derou case free Mike Drew. He might get out on that because I was because I and you get a lot of I want to make I want everyone know I wasn't. Terrell was found not guilty. I was expecting for him to be found not guilty, as I expect every driver who claims I did not know what these dudes were gonna do. They have to prove that you, as a driver, was part of the homicide. And if they can't you walk in.

So that should be a lot of retro releases. That should be because a lot of people got convicted. Indeed, there was people sleeping in the back seat. Not no one's going on getting convicted. You know, Mosy got one of my favorite lines recently, say the driver like, how I get all this time? You had to act the role in the commitment of the crime. I'm just back in the days the passenger in the back seat they

let him go all the time. And if I had a pistol and the driver and the passenger of the front sat went the back seat passenger they let him go home. Yeah. But ever since the gang enhancement, one of the six point two two which started getting prosecuted into two thousands, everybody's getting charged in the car hurt. That was they got some new law that's taking that GANGHANCEMANI away too? Is that true? No, the gang enhancement is still in effect. You know, I just got a

case to That's fine. Trying to get around down again on six point two two. Is the gang enhancement the gang enhancement, it is um if you do a crime for the benefit, the direction or an association of a street gang. That's the the allegation point two two, all right, But another thing on the six nine. It just brings up he ain't the first one and he ain't the last person of hip hop of rap to tell. What if everybody keeping one hunting many telling is the beginning

of the time. Yeah, this ain't. This ain't the beginning of it. I mean way back in the days. I mean, you got cats walking around that that got down like that, and it is what it is, you know what I'm saying. But but at least that back then, those dudes were ostracides from the neighborhood. They didn't come back. We've been see him for a long time. They moved way out to the valley somewhere. Back then. A mother getn'tun the stand and point you out. Yeah that's him in that

blue unif for him, that was telling what Dakashi is doing. Now, just like the fairs, the fairs, you don't got that. If you go to trial, you're gonna get thirty five four the years they throw that at you. Who want to do thirty four years and lose with all white jury, So they take the motherfucking plea And then now whoever telling on he man gotta go to court, you know what I'm saying. So they take it, they take that

away from you. But just like it's, it's, it's it's hard to explain, and and by Reggie being a police officer, and Reggie probably explained it better because the laws has changed and it's totally different how they get down he used to be to where it is now. But it's it's, it's this should have been existent for years. So who can say this dude, that dude not just in the industry. I mean no, it's not. We got to do Alpho from out there in New York. People out just a

do that was a killer. He told on Wayne Perry. Wayne Perry was his hit man, Harlem drug dealer, went down to d C that the Payton Fool stories yeah, the full stories yeah, and the ALTPO just ended up telling and he was one of the hardest down. Mickey Barnes. Mickey Barnes is another one for even in the New Jack City, the main gangster I heard niggas rap Card Brown, the nigga told gangster was always too well. Brown was cool.

John John Gotti never told that that motherfol never told And then when you're at the top of the indictment. They don't want you to Yeah, you have no the motherfucker. I was at the top of the indictment. Actually, I had a case here and about four or five years ago, the guy at the top of indictment actually became the informant for everybody that was under him. That Yeah, I think it's a thirty three case. The top guy actually ended up rolling. So what what where do you put Takashi?

Is he one of the top guys? Are you just one of the bottom kids? Just saw the indictment so that's a good question. Well, he's just probably someone in the middle. I don't know. I think that they wanted uh shot. Yeah, there's most of the other guys because it's a whole bunch of other guys that haven't beled out here. And then the two guys that are on trial, they they're taking the trial, so they're gonna get all day. That's what this case is, the one that two about guys.

There's only two guys. Take your deal. Yeah, you post if you're off for the deal, if you you dirty in the game, and you know this part of it, bro better no one to jump on the deal. Exactly, but just the cold thing about everybody asking the question, which is not true. Can six nine come home and just be a regular cat? Now, Alphole? I heard altposts

walking around hardly get down. The only thing I can say, the closest relatable case I can find is Clifford Harris t I. He sat on the stand we have for the prosecution for about forty five minutes in the murder case where the suspect received sixty three years after t I started the incident at a venue shortly from the location, and we see how prominent he still is in the hip situation. Puffy, Wow, See, I don't know. I was kind of I don't know the details talking about back

they wanted. But she Puffy from a different thing than t I. I cannot go on the d and find comfy justified agains the guys. Yes, But at the same time t is on the Internet saying I stick by the G Code. I've never heard Puffy pledge to live by the G code, correct, So you know it's at

least to his defense. I know that there are civilian citizens, business owners that will report and testify and if he falls in that classification, and none of my business at this point he's actually I'm chiming in on Takashi talking about I can't believe that guy snitched. I still know Tom. I thought, yes, yes, that's why video, Mr Harris, that is I saw t I sit on the stand with my own eyes for over forty five minutes. Tell me

the incidents. I know everything that happened. I never read anything. I know because Clifford Harris told the open court on behalf of the prosecution and this guy's murder trial. I watched him walked past the suspect when he first walked in court because his eye looked like he didn't want to really look at the nigger. Then he sat understand, raised his hand, gave his oath, talked about a few of his businesses, talked about the night he was at

this venue. There was an altercation in the club with some some locals. When he left the venue arcation. He started by not trying to allow some boss niggers in the v I P and these were niggas could buy the club. And when they when they realized you was trying to be funky. Try somebody is Entrege responsible for throwing money on the niggers like trying to flows down the road. They got funky. Yeah. Yeah. All I say is this, I'm not I don't have a personal campaign

against anyone. I just like to speak to facts and I am aware of the situation. In order to vindicate your name, bro, just upload that HD footage. Why you got me out here sounding like a food when you know you if you're not ashamed of what you did, just upload your testimony then you can be vindication. So how did you see this video? It was It was readily available on the internet for about I mean like ten years ago, because this was in two seven that it happened. Yes, and at the time, I was in

the blue room in North Hollywood. Everybody came to the studio. I'll be like, look and we all seen it. I've seen it multiple times. I know that everybody. Forget used to have court TV back in the day. Every day was on court TV. This is on trial was on TV. So did t I kind of gets scrubbed off the internet. You can't find You cannot find any more than like a one minute segment. But it was not a cell phone camera, it was not any personal camera. This was

television news broadcast. So I know you might have a way of scraping archives, getting in contact with networks. It was in the local Ohio station of where the local place happened, and it was the news camera. It was crispy clear. All you really gotta do it just get the transcript from the case. And that's what he keeps challenging everybody to do because look, and no one has done it. And you know, he's intelligent and he knows no one's gonna go find him no paperwork. But we're

in a paperless society. Every building I owe, they're offering me to go paperless. I hate papers. So just what he was ahead of his time with his telling because we have HD footage, but here for him to go around the country and to keep addressing these snitch rumors and trying to justify himself without uploading that testimony. You're a fraud. If you want to vindicate yourself and vindicate your participation in that murder trial, just put up the

footage and then we all know what you did. As long as you hide that footage, we know you have something to hide. Me the hears well, I know that I watched the show on it and it seemed pretty convincing. Um, t I, t I spoke and there's a lot of people that believe it. And guess what. T I just came out with a new podcast called Expeditiously. What was the first subject? And in society and culture category it was ranked number one. What was the first subject he

addressed when he opened that thing? Snitching? And he did not mention his recorded testimony killer Mike, I don't know what. That's his, boy, and you're sitting right next to this dude show and my lion about him sitting on the stand on behalf of the prosecution in a murder trial with the suspect received sixty three years or my keeping it the Google? Are those facts or is that fiction? Well?

I think you bring up a great point because I think Takashi is gonna end up in the same situation as t I. He's gonna have business relationships, people gonna say, hey, I got an opportunity to make money with this guy because he is worth something. And when he comes home Redd says maybe ten, I say, maybe three, maybe seven. Um, life is gonna continue. And t I. You owe him, you owe him a situation, you owe him, acceptance, you owe him and embrace dog dog we've been only more

than see. I didn't actually see Doggy dog and sit on the stand. I saw t I sit on the stand testified till everything. I saw it more than once because I was so intrigued by it. Everybody that came to my studio I would show them. So I showed so many people it once where I saw it tons of times in the same period of time. When two girls want couples popping. Oh, remember that I could never watch that. It was hard to find. Well, every time I saw somebody watching and I saw that reaction, I said,

I'm good, I don't even need to watch. You missed it. I don't know what I missed, but I was like, no, I'm good, I don't even want to watch that. You watch some dimes being some negative zeroes? Yeah, what my space said. Then he was able to film when he filmed a crime Sturperce commercial. He filmed a video in the gym while he was in jail. Well, maybe we could have one of the Gangster chronicles. Fans, you go out there and and get the transcript, because I'm curious.

Get the transcript for get the Clifford Harris's case. I know he was arrested in OH seven. I don't know when the trial started, but two years later, and he after he got fined with them guns, he finally decided to cooperate because he was holding out and they were they were like not going to trial because they felt like without his testimony, they didn't have enough to hang these dudes. So they kept trying to behoove him to participate. And I know you was keeping it to the G code.

You wasn't messing with him, and he got caught with them guns. You got caught them a pinch. You said they were gonna take three million from you, and they was gonna take your freedom, so you had to figure out something to do. I understand, Well, maybe somebody can find that video or produce the transcripts, because I'm curious myself.

And I'm not so much because I got anything against t I, but I just heard him speaking against Takashi like Takashi was the worst thing ever, And I'm like, wait, well, yes, I agree, but dude, you did the same thing, yes, exact same, So how can you speak on that? You know? But you know, I think sometimes when you speak enough on something, you can kind of get people to forget

that it ever even happened. And I think maybe that's what t is trying to do, because this case is over ten years ten years old, and most people don't know about it. Yeah, most people don't even know. Cursed to be seemingly the only person with somewhat of a public voice that is convinced or remembers it, it it feel like a curse. No, you just only want thank you. I'm sure I've bet killing Mike knows all of this. You have to kill the Mike. Come on, cripple Cola.

But that's his business partner. Are you about the business of business? Are you about the business of betterment and integrity of the people in the culture? Is if you like you portrayed, bro, Because if we're going to let t I sit on the panel of our spokespersons, we know damn well when they present him with some pressure, he'll fold. He said. He sticked by the G code. That means I ain't got nothing to say. When he said that they would threatening his money and his freedom,

he broke. He told Now, I think what we spoke about last week regarding the paperwork on snoop, that's snitching, but not the same type of stitching we're talking about. I mean, yeah, you don't know what it could. Let you don't know what, and we don't know what it did lead to as far as I'm tell him, because snitching is the incorrect word. That's not the correct word, because it's a lie. So I don't know. Because speaching has become as commercial, as generic as the word gangster.

So you have to really almost break down what you mean when you say the word snitche Well, he made a statement to the police to implicate somebody in the homicide, but that it wasn't even true. That's extreme. Oh well, I mean if it wasn't but the person was at risk of being that it's all that's boo boo. Now in a lot of cases that I work on, and I was a person that just paid for him to

be the murder case two years pert to that. Well, if we want to just go by, you know, we do feel like we fail full of fall a failed institution. And right now my spirit is treat money to a cliche that is that is more popular than gangsterism period and it's all it's fair and loving war and just let us know, we just set ourselves up like you're going into the war with rules. What Snoop Dogg is doing this thing? And then then here this is now

is people giving the funk about what he did? Nope, Nah, But I do think the way he was speaking in that video about knocking out trade, you don't do that, especially if it's not true. Just keep your mouth shut and do yours. I watched the video with Dad saying that he was flipping Shug and beat the reggin. Now let me let me explain this, and and I say this, if a motherfucking hood next to you and can't keep it, one hunted and said, Nigga, why the funk you going

there on black and lie? Then you ain't doing him no justice. That's no motherfucking where he can't even live Shug to flipp him. Dad's no motherucking where he ain't gonna touch Reggie nor I Shug without being touched himself. This is a situation. You gotta do it at the same time. It didn't even sound since you look, if you're not gonna do Shugar and then come back and then still work with Reggie, you're not gonna do either or that way. So you had to touch him both

at the same time. This is this is how niggas lie your games. Tha ain't that? It ain't that. So don't even put yourself out there a lie. I don't care. You don't lie like that was sleeping around with but still don't. Don't make yourself look like a pool open. No pussy, man, if she fucking should that ain't your pussy especial pushing when you're at the house, when she in the street. That's everybody. I totally understand. I understand keeping. If you get down like that, then that's how you

get down. Because I've got Reggie and she was gonna say that. Go ahead, Spider. Now I've gotten involved in um public, I would say, uh, character assaults. Where I'm discussing an individual, he discussing my character every time somebody got some negative say about me is untrue. If I'm gonna battle you discuss something about you, I'm gonna go for the facts. If I have a reason why I'm don't approve of your characters because something that's actually true

about you, and that's what I'm gonna point to. I'm not gonna lie about you. If you're a worthy opponent, you're a worthy opponent. You would you would use somebody has about the business, but for some reason were on the opposite side of an issue. It's your fault. Now, Takashia come back in about five years and Zooma's music career. Of course, of course, it's people. It's people. It's people to do what Takashi do and come back to their

neighborhood and pursue that game bang career. So the industry is not gang back. T I did it, Henna saying you would know why I'm sitting like this. You didn't see it, so you like, maybe maybe not. You're looking at with money, with money, I don't have to go back to the hood. Yeah, y'all, I'm saying Takashi is gonna actually go back to the barrows and say, I don't know about the girls. He know, he asked me, could he come home and have a music career. Yeah,

it's big difference. You don't have to go to the bors anywhere. Yeah, he probably won't come back to Brooklyn right away, but I guarantee you he will come back to Brooklyn at Blyn opposing Okay, but most of the people don't don't don't even care about Alpo right now, that's what I'm talking about. But you know that dude that that didn't get caught off in that indictment, he might take him up under this wing. Who is that the hard due to whoever? I don't know. I don't

know that. Yeah, he's the one that did the kidnapping. Well one of them, somebody from the hood, those like the only two gs over there. Yeah, there's gonna be a couple of nine trade bloods that say, look to Kashya, it was messed up, what happening. They should have never tried to get I understand why you did what? Come over here now, let me manage you and the money. He'll be doing Collapse with Nicki Minaj again, who knows.

I can't even believe, even aside of this case, I can't even believe that Nicki Minaj is the Collapse six nine because I felt like they were on a level. You think Nicki Minaj is more shocking than casting NOA fifty cent and Uncle Murder. I just think Nicki Minaj is at the top of the totem pot when it comes to it, and he had number ten. Anybody number one, any rapper is going to record with somebody's pushing the rainbow. I see Nicki Minaj before I see fifty cent uncle

murder and casting. Noah, this dude was pushing metro femininity and all that. That's Nicki Manaj Manaj is sex. You talked about these grimy New York Gutta gutta supposedly dudes. Why was their excuse for standing next to this dude? Business everyone? I see an economic opportunity collapsing with this guy. Yes, So I don't understand why the surprise with Nicki Minaj because they don't need that she already, That's what I'm saying. Cardi was kicking her. His competition was Cardi B at

the time. Remember that's all he keep talking about. The breakfast they were talking about Cardi Beak. He was like, no, I'm not a Cardi B. I got this amount of hits he didn't have this mean Yeah. I just feel like his whole career was just a fraud. And I never thought card nick her whole career as a frog too.

Who's that her baby name culture with a K. I don't respect that bro as corny as fun Cardy B name her child culture with up to be is ignorant to be that's successful in name your baby to change the word for your baby, that's goofy, that's new yor girls changed the beats to disease on my mama, mama, my nigger, I swear folk God. That is not no super common thing with us like it is with y'all bro with y'all the red rash. Yeah, because let me tell you something. Let me tell you what bloods do.

Because you say my home, girls, I'm from a woman. I'm gonna say, I'm glad say that. All my life. I've been sold intrigued by the fact that blood say flew because we try to eliminated all the beats. We can't in every word. We started in the county when the mons when had the blood and grip right. But it was just like that was changing ship for me. You're talking to. Notice he put Cardi Blee on on his i G page and all cript uh outfit. He couldn't wait to post my mama, mama, I swear the guy.

When I first did it, I didn't know it was Cardi B. I've just seen all the ship I didn't know reacted. That was Cardi B. That's how and that was used to be read somebody somebody, but you couldn't wait to post that. I liked it. That anything but anything bluetiful. Crayola agrees. Blutiful is quite the blutiful concept Crayola taught all of us. It teaches all of our children's our first teacher. That's true. Alright, fellas, let's wrap it up another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. I want

to thank everyone for tuning in that. I want Spider to shout out his uh sh channel on YouTube spotted Look most easy to YouTube channel. Were waking Bake most Wednesday mornings around eight am, uh Pacific time. Other than that, we on I g A Spider Look Most Easy seven a whole lot of content. Shout out to the Gangster Conical, the Three Headed Monster for let me come up in here and talk to my stuff one again. Appreciate you' all that stuff. Black Box right, blacks Box Production, That's

what we pushed. And shout out to Poop on the back as my producer, to my cameraman, my director man and he got a lot of other jobs. Ain and don't forget about bomb first at Reggie Right channel. I never get to mention John, but you do that with John.

What's John's last name John. Never shout out John, but John and Reggie Right Bomb First Daily started my social media career way back in like shout out to shout out to John, his own podcast coming soon, you know, leaving the Temptations and don't forget about oh yeah and real quick uh and don't forget about Street TV. I'm

always posting videos to three every week. The clip of me today, I posted another clip of Spider that's what and please don't forget about our lives show October three at seven pm in Bellflower at one six two eight Bellflower Boulevard at the French Quarter Creole Bar and Grill. Come on now, I'm letting everybody know about the live show at the French Quarter Creo Bar and Grill, one six, seven to eight Bellflower Boulevard, Bellflower, California. That's just east

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