RBX Escape From The Row

of kicking this off. Man. We probably had the coldest motherfucking interview that never came out every dog because the sound got funked up and everything over at the Homies creatives. They had that with the ambiance, the so called ambiance was was right. We had the fire cracking in the back worked over the sound and says, you know, but you know, the Almighty you don't never make mistakes me in it. He said something Bobby about that maybe it was a vibe or something that somebody else that would

a seen it and took it the wrong way. Well maybe, and you never know, but All Mighty was like, yeah, we don't get the combis on this, y'all gonna tie it again. Y'all keep on practice to perfect the craft. But I see what you're doing, but not this one. The statical Yeah for sure, man, I know you about a happy motherfucker right now. Although why because some of

them classic albums about to start hitting them DSPs pretty soon. Yeah. Bro, we don't get all excited cause you know, if you've been on the roller coaster ride it I've been through from death frow ain't no excitement. I believe it when they when they when they go ahead and circles and come back down their lands on earth with all ten toes on the earth, And that's when it matters. You know. It's a lot of here saying objection and speculations and YadA yadas and whatnot. Um are you but are you

waiting for that? Like a lot of us, a lot of us. Everybody been hitting you know, I've been. I've been getting the emails, you know, from lawyers and everybody we can we can send there, you know, the cease and desist letters and all that. While they're coming out the woodworks, right, they're coming out the woodworks on me too.

But I have been telling people since a long time ago, I was telling casting day win when castors like actually change at when I was kind of doing bad, when I was putting my CDs on the block, and you know Nicks was talking. I mean he was wrong with that. Ni Ninka the got over on him. In all honesty, they didn't. I didn't sell my publish it. That's why I was one of the number one enemies. He said,

no publishing. They okay, well, we can't eat off the X because he didn't give us no did in the publishing, So were not put him on this just just din that that's would happen. So let's elaborate a little bit, man, for those that don't know, we're talking to a lot of people that don't know how to music in the street really functionous for y'all that don't know, you're publishing

is your writer's portion of the song. That's your mailbox, that's your actual inflection property, that's how you live and all that stuff. But when when you want to get groceries, you want a hamburger without it is probably gonna come out one of those texts that come to the mailbox. You know, Um, a lot of cats don't know when they get into the game like I didn't know. I had a home girl that taught me a few things. She was like, don't be giving up this, don't do that,

don't do that, and don't sign this paperwork. I said, okay, so that's what's up in in in in certain situations, I think I was more than naive and stubborn than than actually knowing what was going on, because I just felt in my heart of hearts, like, honey, if I make that skateboard and put the wheels on it, that's my skateboard. So if you come down you're talking about you want to swoopie my hoopie, where you gotta get permission from me? I made that skateboard? How many And

I've had the same thing about the right now? How long? Why am I gonna give you all the money for the stuff that I wrote? And then when when when Cast was giving me their logic on that, it wouldn't making sense. Also, it's you know, that's how it's done. I'm like, that's how it's done. Where the this Yeah, dah dah, this is this is the road. I ain't to put nobody I having to say that, but it was the role and it was like, yeah, you know

you got to play the role. You gotta get a role you're publishing, and I'm like, well, a lot of I never I never agreed to that. I think the error from music from day one with labels and artists and whatever. Labels always sought after securing your publishing give me uh. It was another way for them to ship, you know. So uh, I think it was every label's approach as far as signing an artist to try to secure their publishing because that's that long, withstanding money, and

you know, I think everybody went through that that. I know a lot of a lot of published and never it was a thing. Taking your publishing was a thing. So did you face a lot of resistance by not giving up your publisher? Yeah, I faced a lot of resistance because everybody was like X you know when he was hearing all the nascy ship about me and you,

that was done. So um, I wouldn't be out there doing my own thing, gloating and flossing in front of him with the change that I'm getting off my because I don't have to give mind to this this cat mm hmm. Be honest with you. When Dre and mad it, I would say Dre had just got like I think it was like a she wok. Had Win brought up two door black joint and Dray had the brown joint, yet speakers all down it side of that joint. Stupid. I was like, oh, I made a couple of moves.

I ran, they got me one. This was about years before none of the homies were starting to see their money. And the only reason I was able to do that because I didn't give it up. I was like nine not you know, and um, I made told some people we can we can speak and they think they was like, well, can I get a percentage of it? And then I started thinking that might be feasible. But once you start that, despite um, it's all bad. Once you get somebody in

the door, now they're in your house. I ain't giving them no publicy because now you gotta wait until they contract, until you think, until they think that the terms have been uh sufficient, and you go your way and they go their way. They're gonna be in your mix for flapping. But what's going on with the catalog right now, with

the whole because this we're talking this specific. You know the chronic catalog, man, Well, the chronic right now is uh at interscope from what I'm hearing, and um, by all accounts, they're striving to get things one huntry with all the individuals like they want all the various entities about it there. Now you know where it was at. It was some people that had their hands in the cookie jar. Well when they got pulled down, there was no longer were able to and they ain't had the

power to put it that. They were just some entities, you know. I know for a fact when we was writing that joint, it was only it was only three, it was only three folks in the building, great Snooping myself. Then we go look at it and it's time to get paid. It's about eight writers on there, and surely you're gonna have uh people getting paid or writers for the sample m hm, you know what I mean, but for the actual writing. And that was me and Snoop

that they credit you for writing. So you do you have do you have songs that's ready to get me right? Let me right? So it has anybody contacted you want to do stuff about you know that's gonna come up to date and what's your ownership percentage and all of that. So you wrote twelve, twelve point five twelve. Yeah, I'm all.

My tenant knows. It's just that it's just that this situation has been going on for a while, and you know, it's it's like Charlotte's where you're not and when you're going into inscribing and make it correct, you can't just going there. And I mean, and you got all, like I said before, the nefarious entities that but they convoluted in weird ways when they was on their way out, they put their little combos shones. They're not gonna make

it easy for nobody coming after them. So the people that comes after them, it's not gonna be no five or ten people. You're gonna have to get a whole crew to come in and and and and administrate this whole mess because it's still a real valuable it's the West valuable. But you gotta get it right. And I think that's what what this is. Dray's baby, So Drey, So just so I got this clear, and we know out here spreading no false and from Dre has the

rights to the chronic He brought the rights back. That's his album now, right, It's always been at album as far as i'm concerned. But yeah, that's the word, you know. And the reason I'm saying that it's because because you can now pull it up on streets, right, and that that's why I'm saying. It couldn't listen my folks, And now I'm striving like Spotify or it was, it was gone. You could never listen to any of it in My

bottom line was crushed because of that. Like I'm gonna keep it a buck like you know, I go out to do my little hustling thing and that's all good. But the main state and the bread and the butter was was my chronic stuff you did. So he was making a nice piece of money off that. Right when you get the message with my bread and butter, it's a problem. But then I understood why I didn't at first. Then one of my cats called me, was like, halm down, going to bite the bullet. They had to get everything

right here to get the ministration right. We strive. We're striving to do that now. So it wouldn't believe they ain't know. It ain't nothing that my folks did bad. It ain't nothing nobody did tideways were usually. It ain't something that they usually. It ain't people all the time trying to be fine, and sometimes it's just people not

having to throw understanding of the business of what's going on. Yeah, now, it's just not because a lot of us just got into the business blind, like a mother a mother to be able to just go into the studio or make a mother's Remember, the content was popping just to go and they were finding that auts like I'm getting fits. I mean, really wasn't too knowledgeable back in the day

and all that show. You know, it was just young cats who was trying to look to get in the studio and trying to make and out of the motherfucker situation. And if my home girl had not said don't give it up, who knows what would happen. But she said, whatever you do, don't sell nobody you're publishing. I said no, she said, now that's your money. You don't need that.

I said, well, so when Cats came at me in a way, twisted kind of way, that really put the red flags up, like you know how that go, like like okay, nigger, I don't like the way that went down there. You definitely ain't getting ship. That's what happened because you never after the chronic you wouldn't sign with Drey aftermath when he left right and then you left Drey and you went on you because I remember you was on the attack for a minute. For for a

little hot second you were throwing some darts. Um, not really. I would just always be in the m C. We was always that's the camp we came in. You did. Um, you always had to be on toes. But with any MC. So if you just felt like it was, it was yeah, yeah, it was funny competition. It was like the way things like if I paid football, but we were playing football, and and I paid for Pittsburgh and you played for whoever you played for, and you was running the rock.

I'm gonna try to knock your face off, Homy. But after the game is over, when I see you at the club, mind, it's all good. And some people don't take it like that. They took when when I went Adam or when I was doing my thing, they took it all RBX tripping. I really wasn't, But I don't really care how they take it no more. And whatever. If you you you just feeling like bro, listen, I'm

thinking like this, bro. If you're doing your thing and I'm over there trying to do my thing with you, and you ain't got the money to pay me or you ain't in a position where you can. But I gotta go do this over here. Then I gotta go where I can't provide for myself. That's not a uh oh, now this naked doing this, I don't think so now we better put the boas on this nink And now you're in the me up. No, stupid, I ain't got

number love for you. However, you ain't able to hold me down correctly in the way I feel like I need to be held down, So you stay right here. I'm gonna go over here handle my business so I'm able to you know the cum It's that it's that scenario of you know, an episode, so now something like like like, well, when it's when am I getting you know what I'm saying, when it's my turn to get ship? I ain't even really I ain't even really tripping on that, like okay, I can't eat here. You want a nickel

and dime a brother. So basically that was what happened. Yeah, yeah, without a project, yeah yeah, and I and I don't and I like, yeah, put hold the brakes on Oh yeah, we're gonna make sure. We're gonna make sure you got a bologne sandwich and some potatoes. Ships. But then after that you don't get no juice box. You don't get no cook Now you've been in jail because they had a sound and don't have a juice box. You up because you made I need a juice box, my nigger,

the sward. All that ship is good, but you're gonna need your juice box, and you're gonna need your apple sup in your oranges bet three o'clock in the morning, then ud hydrated. You're gonna wish you had that orange or that apple. So that's all I'm saying. Let me ask you this ex, do you think by you and should playing ball together? Un l V, your relationship was a look a bit different because I noticed the other cats than can. The other cats didn't tend to give

him that resistance that you did. I don't know about all that. I mean, I don't know. You know, I think we probably took ship a little further than and then if I had been just a normal artist that that didn't have that background, you know, damn me so. But he also knew that I knew who he was, and he knew who I was, and I wasn't even about that light. I ain't never been no superedout weirdo

like Nia honey. But I was always defensive. If you bring it to my yard, then you better be ready to You brought that over here, Nick you Yeah, I mean, I'm from Long Beach, so you know how to do, what you can do? What to do? Let me ask you this. Not nobody have asked you before the John liver Ts. Yeah, we gottam yeah what think think think get these ends for the gag time, wrestle all that kids, nigget through helmets. She my whole thing. When I used to fight back in the days, and I'm we usually

was offensive, lineman. The first thing we do, we lie. We now we lied, we we we locked again. I got him knock locked. I go to kicking the motherfucker boom boom boom because we locked boom. I go to straight kicking him all bad. Yeah, we don't know. We was there all the damn time, bro all the damn time, and it wasn't like nothing personal. We'd be like we we wey out there balling for real. This was Do you think it was his football attitude different than his

death row attitude. Not really sugar Bear with sugar Bear and the reason I gotta say sugar bear because everybody, why do you call him sugar bear? Sugar Bear is a name that I got from one of my player partners, David Hollins. David Hollis Guardeena Denver Lane played the Guardana high. He came up to Shug was coming from El Camino. Boo boo boo the l a thing. Sugar was out there doing this ship and they were talking about how sweet should feet was because they was sugar Bear was

and they couldn't do nothing with him. And that's how he got the name sugar Bear. Well, chugar Bear got broke down the shugar and then shouldn't I turn into something else? Splink star rap when we got to this rap thing. But that's how it all came about. So it was always all up you dig all my niggas from um Um Anthony Blue shout out to him, you dig hig dog Uh, Charles Demer these is all catch.

They went to the key them Cardale, you know Randall you did so X. I want to ask you a question, man, you know, I mean you have some conversation sometimes offline about just the whole spiritual warfare that be going on this, you know, just this industry, the little dark stuff. Man. Do you think man at the time, especially the nineties, especially in that time period that we was in man, you know, the late nineties man and early two thousands and stuff. Man, do you think it was like a

Satanic influence going around a little bit? Man? Uh, I don't gonna feel if it was. I don't know nothing about it, because we was We was rebuking Satan in my house, my mom and my aunties, rebuking anything we could, I would say more than that. More so now now then when we was going on right now fitted away out like a lot of the moms and a lot of the house holds was really church and fast that you wasn't gonna do none of that crazy, Yeah, you

were crazy. Ship. You would have been able to come in with painting nails and you wouldn't and you would have got beat damage into an institution painted black. Yeah, like, oh, your little cousin me, I had a couple of a clue of my little cousins, would have they not my little cousins. So my big cousin to pull up and think, yeah, because you beat your black nails if you gonna beat the breaks up, Yeah, because we can high let you go with the whole family. Oh my god, what you

like what you're into? Could like on the set. I don't know about none of that ship because you do, niked, you're gonna take that ship up both you are you? Hey? You know what it's called freedom of expression. Yeah, they didn't have this. They didn't have all them laws and non binary and none of that stuff. We was going up, n you ain't. You're gonna get your ass beat. Yeah,

it was crazy crazy right there. Still say yeah the fun I think he said we didn't had that of that ship and there's a whole bunch of ship and that's the ship asked I'm talking about though, man, because you hear these stories now, man, people of all the the cast that was messing. I guess with the young girls and ship back then and they just coming up. The stories is coming up now and it's just a whole bunch of a messment. But we know what we

been getting all that. Yeah, I don't know where that side came out that the next next you know what I'm saying, We were for show Goes somewhere else. Man. You know, um during that time, man, you wanted that, right. One of the biggest songs that was on that, which was Letting Me Ride. That was supposed to be your record of first right, Yeah, is it the first nothing with your focus on it somewhere. No, I wasn't. I mean I probably could have. I my folks broken down

to me, like, asked you on this you could do. No. I really felt that already, That's what I'm saying. So what did you do just presented to him? No. I actually was talking to Snoop No, and I was you know, I always wanted to kind of. I never thought, oh, nick, I'm so hard, I could just do some ship and I never thought that. I always wanted to defeat them off from my loved one. So that's basically what I was doing, and it was to be playing. I wasn't even I don't think I was actually talking to Drey.

I was talking to Snoop about um creeping down the backstreet on these I got my god cocka nickers want the no fun. As I said that that Naked Tray said, what is that? I said this when I was thinking that prob. He was like, naked. Do you know that we are talking? He said, asked you know that if I take that and finished the song, y'all finished that song that they naked, the album done? You working on the Chronic for time? And then here Dr Trace hear Dre say the album was done. If you could have

that so good, we're done. I'm gonna write another one from me. Don't even trip, but the honey, won't that get Tom? That was a good look get through him? That was good to be as big as it did. It gets on him. No, I had no idea that Chronic was gonna be big as it is. I didn't know nothing. I was just being my my nigga. It was just doing my nigga, my nigga saying, hey man, we need you to come through our bugs, okay, because

I got you. I wasn't in it my heart, but I didn't know nothing about a matter of fact, I sat on the that Drey House was in Calabastas and me and DFC was talking. O C shake. I just listened to the album in its entirety and there's some motherfucker you know what I'm saying? And he said, what you think is gonna do. I don't know. I said it maybe five has a commune, maybe platinum, maybe go you know what I'm saying, that's what we strive. You know we were I said, we go to platinum. I said,

it's a good little ditty. I thought it was. But I thought for me to say, oh, nigga, we fin the beat for me five times platinum would have been some bullshit it because I never your mind, wasn't even thinking that. I couldn't. I mean, I'm thinking that high. But uh, for other artists and the other genres you're there, I think it rap, don't do that. I'm thinking more like some Whitney type ship, you know what I mean, Like you do n That's that's great, and you d

o C C ship. That's doctor track, nigger. I just just to the records. They could have record bank from the beginning. Ship. There's gonna be a five six million joints. I fell see. You want some bullshit and they can hit the weak traffic, they can hit the wheat and that ship blew the funk up, niggers, Like, when did

you realize that there was some ship? Though? When they dropped that Tuesday and I went to Vintage Beach with the Hume Girl Thursday, and every motherfucking car had the chronic that we pulled up when we got off the motherfucking freeway. As soon as we got a freeway start

head towards the beach. Every time we pull up, I said, okay, my, like every fucking car, and I'm like, that's kind of a like every car, the low Riders, the essays, the Philipinos, like everyone pull up with nobody when he was playing Universe, Yeah, I did a few times and it was queer because we wanted to be like and what what? I had never witnessed a blow up like that, and it was blowing the funk out. We drove all the way down. Everybody was bumping the credit everybody. Then we got to

the beach. The motherfucker's walking down the board walk with the chronicles. Dude, I'm like, what, nobody knows who I am? Though nobody knows ship. I've been walking only just being a hunkle. We go get something to eat because we just get back in the car and driving back and it's the same ship because it wasn't like niggas had pictures and ship and this is this is r b X and this is that you know who I was.

I was just hearing all this music going on, and I'm like, wow, wow, Yeah, we quite wasn't an area that we didn't right, Yeah, we had check that we hand out of that. And then I think I got to the house and we was listening to Kurt Loder on MTV and even talk about the Chronic and I'm like, and I just took it. I was like, y, yeah, yeah, I was on that record. I didn't have no idea what it was gonna do, right, No, when did you get you when you got your first plaque? What you say?

I didn't go, kid, you didn't go get it. You see, don't got your pleaues axt. You gotta go get those my nigga in my life, nigga, I was at the back of the camp. That's why me with male tweets and and nigked with Daddy V nigked and trying to drop off some work because me going up to that student to pick up this ship for what it wasn't gonna do nothing for me and where no money. It wasn't not a dime where no money. They was like, you're gonna go get your grabby flag. Now I'm not nigga.

I gotta eat. Yeah, I said, I'm out here on these streets and ship. I said, when I get to Hollywood and one day now I think I talked to him and they was like, well, you gotta do this and you gotta show improve you then we can give you the flacktail. We got to we we got we got one with a teen and I thought, well, I'm taking care of my grandmama right there. I'm gonna do with all this ship. Ain't no money, ain't no mone I need. I can't put this. And then I gotta

I gotta store this ship. This is a whole bunch of ship. When we set this ship, I get this ship later. I'll probably get a letter one day. I haven't fixed me ship ship when I get my career, and I think, motherfucker, look up and like all these accolades of ship. Yeah, when I want. When I posted up, but I was getting, I was getting seven cents. I was loving the groove. Yeah, that ship wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't for me. I mean I got the war to not show enough. I appreciated everything you did. It

just did I gotta go get it later. You know what, though y'all have some dope as moments over there. Dog, do you remember that you was at the source of wards that year. That's the year that that that Quick was up on stage when the bullshit came bullshit. That Ship must have been a motherfucker that year, Dog, pressure cooker that year. How many niggs was you win the audience? Ey, I know you probably had all about dude, you probably had the whole hood of that. I flew about ten

dudes out there. Um, it was just tension time because not even I don't know, It wasn't even for the fact of of you know, Quick and death Row and all that. It was New York, you give me. It was just being in New York. Man, just was just I never you know, I got along with a lot of motherfucker's in New York To this day, Man, New York motherfucker's is like, I've had so much respect from niggas in New York and dudes I've worked with and all that, But it was tension around men, you know

what I'm saying. And then we were some gang banging. Asked niggas and Ship and where you feel like I always felt like New York was like they looked at us a little differently because how we represented hip hop,

you know what I'm saying. And even though we had our rap rappers, you know what I'm saying, we had young mc s and we had mother fucking hieroglyphics and you know, we had Souls of Mischief and Hope Homo Sapien, and we had you know, we had Ciper's Hill, and we had you know, we had shipped outside cast, we had shipped outside of whatever. There was a lot of periody on the West Coast. Yeah, we still have a period. Definitely. We we had diversity on the West Coast. But our

standout was our ship. You give me. Our standout was that struggle neighborhood rap you get me so, and that's what I checked to. Going to New York was always tension because we always felt like we were looked upon like slightly dang bangers and we were just you know, and like I said, I to go to New York all the time. It was hard niggas in New York to show this. Did anybody out there disappoint y'all? Like, because you know I heard it was motherfucker's out there

booing niggas and all kind of ship. Wasn't anybody in particular that y'all saw tripping the kind of disappointed y'all you're talking about as far as a man at that time. It was just a lot of tension in the audience. Like I said, that was my second source of war. I don't even think there was no industry ship, dog,

I don't think that. I think that was like more of the media kind of propelled that ship though about you know about the the tension, but the East Coast West Coast ship and all that ship, I don't think that ship was about. No, I'm on mine. That never bothered me. The East Coast That's why I mean, Chris did the East Coast West Coast color. That's what we were talking about. That ship never bothered me. More over

than than that situation. I think when I was moving my CDs on the block and had to encourtain and be running the certain cats, and you thought David was gonna have love for you and respect the fact that you're on the block pushing your line, and they don't. I evil eat, I'm pushing my line. I'm a creased I'm at the barbershop. Whoo wow, I'll run out of c d s. Hurt my heart. Everybody, it's they's ten cats. Don't see these. I only got like four, so I dropped the fourth. I said, I'm gonna go to the

choreographs some more. I come back evil. He think I'm he think I leave. He was like, man, that that's RBS. Man, he just fell a very long way from great. He ain't a better ship right now. I ain't here selling the c d s. M hm yeah, And I was, you didn't. I didn't have time to explain to him, Oh, bro, this is me. I ain't know. Bro, I got Kate.

I don't see that being on our side. Think that's that's my ship, we I said, but this is the way that I can go get my money, do my music the way I want to do my music without some white and R They don't know nothing about us or our music in our ship. And I can push a thousand units today or if I gotta build, I can push three. It's whenever I want. And I like the deals, yeah that you have like Atlantis or Epics. Folks. Was like, X, you could come over here and you

have a situation. However, every situation had their little strings, and you're gonna dance over here, or they was trying to get at me because they was trying to get at some of my folks, or they needed my couple of my folks on the album to make it something like you if you can get it, or or if you get the disrespecting this right here, or if you stay on your death your death row discord. Well, what

if I want to do something like this? Okay, well we're not gonna work because I'm not gonna have you telling me if I'm on the streets. I'm on the block every day. I listened to my cast every day. And that's not what you're talking about. That's not conducive. I don't know. Was there any deals that was presented to you that you felt like you should now that you look back on it, is there any deals that you felt like I should have took that? Yeah? So

there was no record deals from any labels. You know, we got a million dollars or we got to fifty for you, or we got you know, you didn't feel like, man, let me take this check and gonna do these three four albums. And I mean we was gonna we was we was gonna do something rest in peace. My brother Cpo the heavyweights hard in the yard. They couldn't get the business right. That was that was gonna go through Snoop's labor right. They couldn't get the business right. I

think it was E one or something. I'm not exactly on what really happened, but they couldn't get the business right, and they I think Vince was having health issues definitely, And I was willing to walk with my dog. I could get in my walker, I'll push that my and well, whatever the funk we gotta do. But I don't think everybody of some of the people that were supposed to be helping us push this product was all with that. We get a couple of joints gangs for no fund.

But I don't know, bro Jack crazy, Yeah, you think what his health ishues? You think they kind of turned some of the people off with the label kinda Yeah, definitely, because they ain't this industry, don't give no fuss about you, honey, and if you're gonna be needy and no, they didn't give a fund. We they just want to own the stage, make the money. Will we're getting the money if anything kind of love and any kind of bad that that's you know, that's not what the industry though, that's not

what the industry do. Rest in pe CPO one of the that's not what the industry do. It's one of our better lyricists from marta dog, that's my nigger. One of our better lyricist. CPO was tighter. That's my guy. CPO was real type man. Yeah, that's crazy. Like you said, I bet you a lot of people don't think about you know, because I don't know when people look at celebrities, they think celebrities or what invincible or some ship like that.

Like I'm pretty sure doing your career, you don't got sick because the motherfucker had to go to the doctor to have you have How do you feel about you what I'm saying making all this money for labels and

all that ship. Motherfucker's don't have proper health insurance, they don't have no do you think like motherfucker's signing to labels and ship because I'm pretty sure motherfucker who work upstairs, who who working on the computer, and who you know getting your posters and your program and ship together in exactly what you're making a label. Motherfucking tends. I mean, and and I think, I think why you don't think

labels offer that to artists when they sign them? That should be putting I'll be I'm like, why shouldn't that be putting the contract as part of your contract, you're gonna pay for me some health insurance? If it's sure be this ship? For sure it would. It would be if cass was was enlightened to the fact. You know, I wasn't either. I wasn't either. But now they got contracts. Now that they are, they got contracts, they're gonna put that. They're gonna put an insurance on your life. Nick, Oh yeah,

they put um they sure getting insurance on whatever. And I mean, you think about it, it really sounds foul. It really does. However, business it's foul. Ain't nothing loving in business. So it's a business ploy a move. If you're spending two million on a situation and that you just want to give your money away, that's usually investment. The two million you're striving to get four million back

to you put in til you get back. So if you got a situation now then that you invest in, they go crazy and get the wilder out they cause they're looking out for their entries, like this nigga, don't flipped out. You don't put a gun on this nigga. That nigga, and that they're gonna try to knock your head off out of't invested two millions. I think you're punk, head man. I got to get some insurance because if they knocked it ther head off, that's how they thinking.

They're not from the hood, so they're not thinking hood. They're probably never gonna think hood. So that's what the fund's going on. That's crazy. That's crazy to see all that. You say that, man, And we got a whole bunch of young brothers losing their life now, man, Like you know, you just had the little homie from the Meagles lost life right oh, the dumb ship, dumb ship. And you know you had the young boy that came out here

from philipp and b Rock lost his life. Real recipes, both of those kids, and they you know, kids kids though, I'm thinking, Dan, I've seen brother screen brother, and sometimes I wish I could just hit my little roller Dex and let me keep that nig number real quick. Hey, how are you talking real whackness? You in l A. I don't care how hard you are the rules out here and the last thing you want to do is be on the thing he got. Ain't nigger, don't they

ain't they ain't hard enough? Then somebody hard enough in l A. The error you come from. Do you feel responsible? No, I don't. Really, I don't. I don't feel but you don't feel responsible for the music that was created in our era. As far as what the youth are doing today. Do you feel responsible for how that happened? No, I don't because because a lot of people push the narrative and say that it's because of our musical influence on those youths back in the days. It's why ship is

so fucked up nowadays. Because mc A talked about the Hood took him under or drive by Ms Daisy. Yeah, if I listened to that ship, the Hood that took me at the chair n I heard you. I see all that ship then n asks my ship? Who gives that? But no, in all honesty, we gotta police ourselves and trying to find a skategold and employed it was him? It was him, No, it wasn't. That era that we talked about. Was the Rodney King era, And we really

wasn't talking about splattening our homies. We was really splattening the time. I'm gonna keep it the buck because they was doing us, beating us in front of them. So these are the ones we was really That's where a lot of the tension come from. It's not a lot of uh songs that we was making that we was like, go get on to go out and kill people that look like you. That's not that wasn't That wasn't the sentiment.

The sentiment was We're gonna be hard in your because they're trying to knock us, damn And we never it was never. It was think people get it confused because they're not from here. People get it confused because you know, if you would take example of of of songs that I made, uh Nigga struggling growing up in the hood, like the hood took me under. I think people get it confused because of the tales we told about the

situations of our era. You know, when I made songs like that, I basically wanted to describe anyone in in a row who grew up like I l a that ship I I I when I talked about you know, niggas jumped in the sixth trade and rolled around the corner and and got into a drive by. It's because I'm telling you the scenario of what's happening in my neighborhood. What happens when dudes retaliate. I'm reporting giving you. I

didn't I didn't, you know. I didn't make songs where I said, go to x y Z hood and then look for Little Doo Doo and then still little Doo Doo. I didn't make songs like you know, mind that, like a lot of the songs nowadays, are you go straight and the Walmart? I'm telling off. I'm from eight Street, you know, And we don't like niggas from anything. Yeah,

we don't like niggas from four Street. And then there's Juju, and then there's Little Pooky and then there's Little Do Do and they got we smoked Little Dodo, and girl, we I never died, you know what I'm saying. And as niggas who claim neighborhoods, you've always had beef, you give me. I don't give a funk. We had beef with the niggas over there, and you had beef with this neighborhood. Neighborhood. But my songs weren't like a niggas

in my hood. Let's go to that hood over there, and let's smoke Little Joe Joe and little Woompy woomb Then we're gonna run back to the studio and then I'm gonna get on radio and then I'm talking about Little KK smoke Little Dodo, and then we over here and we're smoking on little Doodoo packs. Right now, it's just so aggressive, so aggressive, it's it's I think the aggression is just lost. It's just they don't they don't know what. Have you had it? Have you had what

it is? Little? You know you probably doesn't had it. You probably doesn't had it. Like the aggression that people have on social media. Now they're coming your d M s and they'll be like, nigga, fuck you still being looking from Alaska. Nigga, you come to Alaska. Nigga, sold you come down? You know what, nigga, God bless you. I forgot what why why they're so angry? It was some minor ship. The motherfucker called me and told me, oh, you you hating on Tupac And I said, no, I'm

not hating. No. Oh the fans and I'm trying to get me real aggressive nowadays, just like you say, just like they say when you go to a basketball game or whatever, and the fans just be like they'd be

ready to fight you. Level of what the level of what fans go through nowadays is like crazy, because like you said, it just be motherfucker's just be willing to take it to that you think about it, For the first time in history, a person at home is actually able to reach out and get at any access to you in your life and what you got going on, and no time, whether it's through your Instagram channel where, whether it's to your Twitter. Did you follow your phone?

You imagine? Can you imagine what the motherfucker could have did back in the days if they could have just picked up the phone man called Michael or remember this, Remember when you leave your house and you had a phone call, you wouldn't know you got back home. Oh yeah, I want to tell you the funny thing about nowadays too. Before the voicemail was a step up. But the nigga would tell you today they will actually get mad if they can't get in touch with you. People have so

much access to so much. People have too much spoil to where they get mad because I had a dude tell me one day, I've been busy. I've been running a lot of stuff going on, like almost like upset, Like, man, I called you five times, Why didn't you like to call you back? I don't have to call ship if I don't want to. I loved how it was back in the day because the motherfucker just caught you when they could no pages then. But that was the best ship ever. Beat me. Remember that he can't beat me.

Then you ain't gotta take your phone up. You turn that motherfucker up E D D D. Hell Now let's he faced upside down that buck that I call it me. Then you can get out of motherfucker ate Joe Parroga. People got too much access, right and see, I'm gonna tell you, and that's Joe father nocud. You let because you let the motherfucker all in your yard. Check this shout that motherfucker already through the star smoking. You can

know what it is though, ay too. These fans really feel like motherfucker's they're friends like it's some people really feel like tupockets. They homeboy like they ryan for him. It's motherfucker's somewhere right now like rv XC. This is Tupocket fun. Still he said, yeah, you know they take they like two pockets. They friend Dog like as they homeboy, and they know everything about him. They probably don't wrote his mama letters. I went out and visited the house.

The cousins. They support everything, so they really feel like when Glasses did that ship, that Tupac Must Die ship, we was up at three or four o'clock, and we was up to three or four o'clock in the morning, and my crib talking about that. I was like, man, you cannot put this record. You can't put this rigor out with that title on there. I thought somebody was gonna do something. Glasses though, because fans get ir Yeah,

people get we. We got crazy emails like people talking about I'm gonna fuck him up when I see him, and I don't cut him into pieces. Just crazy ship Dog fans be really ira. We give you to give you an example of high fanatic. It kind of scared me, but I'm built like that. I'm West. When that situation with brother from the from Inglewood, when he went to and he was talking all them Inglewood niggas is weirdos.

He got to the concert and they hit him. I was like, that goes back to that glasship stance that we spoke on back in the days we was coming up, we were talking to aggressive, were talking that ship and sh used to pop. But right now with the with the advent of the social media, it's just you could be a real time with Joe in the meg Niggade outside with but come on the ends you'll meet the fun. Yeah,

well what situation was that? I don't remember. Well, it's it's it's just like you said, fans and people look at you in different lights, and then you have to learn how to avoid a lot of confrontational bullshit. A lot of us, you know, grew up to where you know, we felt invincible or nobody could whatever. But but now

we're older. Yeah, you have to learn how to you know, avoid conflict, escalate, and you have to learn how to avoid situations that might put you or your people in harms way because like you said, there's a lot of ira people you know who you know like your enemy you know, or or I love Tupac. There's nothing you can say about Tupac. You know, there's are you know, SAMs killed stam skills celebrities all day for now, John Lenny, don't give John Lenny and the dude they shot him

and said he loved you. So that's the position you put yourself in. That's as far as far as far as being or becoming a celebrity, you did. He's shotty. I love John Lenny. You know crazy sometime to see see it's a lot of motherfucker's be thinking, celebrities be on some bullshit. Like me, Bro, I don't even I don't even think people recognize me who I am. Most

times I'll be the stated brothers Lucky's roped. I'll just moving move, people staring at me every now and then I'm moving too fast to stop and cow town to the bullshit. But at the same time, I got to keep my eyes because like, what's the weirdest ship when a motherfucker know who you are but you don't know who they are. Yeah, you know, Lebron just broke the

scorning record. Yeah he did. It took Ohio nigger to come out here for the Lakers, Ohio nigga to come out here for the Lakers to break the na scorn. Don't matter way from me, your brother ship that nigd and he represented. Let's still say he tried. He tried, I tried. Yeah, you try to cut exactly. Lakers had been the chef liers. I'm still proud for the brother know, I'm happy. I like Brown Brown be out there trying to do his day for Sean. He ain't Bush. Yeah, man,

shout out. Don't get caught up and shout out to Brian Breeze learned how to avoid bullshit. I think he. I'm trying to be that type of motherfucking ride boy confrontation. Don't get caught up in Niga mentioned your name, it's always it's crazy on a whole another level. When the nigga mentor your name, it's always and it's always positive. And if you speak my boy talk about the floating pool to go around the house when you get into wood Wild Whoop and you're floating and then you just

put the button and it just floats. Yeah, it's what they talking about the way when they got his all that that's that old language. My nigga said. When you in the Wink Wink, you know what I always that's that's dry s Mitchell Productions. You knew what I always want to ashoo dog. How many times was you signed the Drake Drake? Yeah? Once, just the one time. So after you left, when you left death Row right, and then I never signed it. So you never signed the

death Row now, so so Drake went straight. He was in need everything. That's I'm sorry, So I'm not gonna do it. Nay signed with Snoop signed. So you wanted to sign. He wanted to. He wanted to. I been wanting to. Why you didn't want to because I didn't like the way she was handling ship at first. He got my thing when we was all family. We was all family. When you get to the point where you're talking to like, okay, well i'm gonna have my orders

come down, they're gonna have more no artists. How mean I'm not your artists, bron We've just found me a minute ago. Now you want to talk that and the tone became condescendingate you with little in me, like did you see the attitude? Yeah, I've seen that attitude change. That's why I act like I acted. But I staid I'm here to support my cousin Snoop. That's all nick already. They probably said that you was like cancerus to the six weeks. They said that dare I was all that,

my nigga, I don't care. I was striving for righteousness and sometimes it ain't always comfortable. Because if I've seen you Fi running to my motherfucking house is burdie. I'm gonna tell you, nigga, you might not want to put the gas lean pants on. Did you tell Sloop not to say? Yeah? I told everybody nigger, I can say that right here. I say, hey, right now, we're pushing the line. We're the writers in the in the artist. I said, we're gonna hold right down. That's gonna say

what ship and they can't do what they're doing. When they give you that paperwork, you're supposed to be able to have your lawyer look over to make sure that the thing is correct. It was here signed now, nigked, and my niggas was taking naked checking up in the paper. Red can reach some dough. I din't say good, wasn't the chicken text of the contract was in the checking text of the contract. Think it wasn't no check nigger,

that was it was a pile of motherfucking hunteds. Yeah, Nigked, come over here, signed this paperwork and get you to nigger was getting signed that paperworking that one two three, So they giving some big money. It wasn't no big money. It wasn't no big money. I had that in my car so you can see it a new one. And everybody looked at you and said, man, he's just trying to funk up everything. Are we as you an asshole?

They can take this, they can take this five, and then they take this month fucking said for when the

thing don't before you want kind of kids. Yeah, you're about to be large, and they take this photios pack of newports, and then we got trying for forty nigger and they got got the hookup boy, and thinking said the lawyer, what did they say to you when you say no, no, you won't take a Yeah, there's some if you're the only nigga going against the grand and the family nig it's a family, nik, it's the death row family nig Everybody moving and grew up in the

same kind of way. And while you acting like that, okay, that's what's saying. I don't go a funk with everybody doing. Was you there in the aguning What happened to the situation with three Big Mike Nick, they was on what happened Well, through all the ship that we was going through,

we was broke to right. Everybody was broke bro they was out here right right right, and um it was Bobby about a week before them, about a week and a half afore the money, because they was to jump off Big Mike and three Tam was supposed to be to jump off for death row right before the money. Pop Lord three two got kind of wrestlers. Big Mike kind of wanted to hand going for a nothing week. He was like, man, we're doing Lord were like, man, fun this. I'm not a big that's my that's big baby,

big baby baby, My did you big baby? I love you to that big baby. But I got to going back to the age town Big David. He's thinking it ain't trying to play it, and I'm like, I know, my nigger. We was. We was barely making it. You know. I was going up to the studio on the sixties long people about how the park woo woo, we slide through. Then I had to slide through boulevard, you know, green leaf green leave right here. Yet that apartment ain't like in Saint suswies. Well, they knew it was. I was

on that bus. That bus, but that got disassembled, and I rode over there a couple of times, nigging to be gang about fifteen sixties, sevent C C C riders, maybe ten old hoods. Oh, it's about forty niggers over there, and I'm from the East Side in the wrong air. Every day I had to get woo woo and be up there putting the chrunic. You know, niggas laughing at me, thinking it was never gonna work. For some strange reason, I said, we're gonna make it. I didn't know we

was gonna make it or not. I just knew that was something to do other than just hanging out. Going to hang out with the Yeah, I thought that was better, better than just hanging out your kids the same ship. With me, everything was the hood. Everything was the Hood. Everything I'm talking about. From the time you wake up in the morning, you go to the Hood, you're hanging out of half chicken cut that's gonna half on the five piece. You really be feeling like this is life,

Like like this is life. You know what I'm saying. Nigga's gonna sell a couple of little crack pieces. We're gonna piece. We're gonna paying. You're gonna always get us some four these and ship they gonna always get a devil up two hundred and you when you like the same ship happened for me when I meant slipping them and I got introduced to the studio and nig I would go over there, Nigga's get the turning on ship and hitting buttons and there's the microphone and there's the

beats going. It was just something that just like you tried, like I tried to like hood hood hood, but it just got the turning because I'm like, man's over here and doing nothing there. We weat of us on the block. We all got packs and ain't but one car coming at a time, so we're all trying to hit the car ran once and look at my ship, my ship. Let me tell you where that went down? The worst stay on satur Fay, back by them back post me. It's the post off nickers are coming through the hole

stowing your card. No color. No, I mean was we was, but like I said, it was what we had worls. It's a moral. We had morals because a lot of us have Mama stilling it was morals. You weren't doing it. We had like I tell, motherfucker's you had no hope of nothing else. This is it right here, this is it right So when you latched onto that, I think it's at the studio. You go to that motherfucker once and that bug catch you and then you get you know, you're doing one check and you get one real. I

didn't get no check. I was I was just fastening check coming from the block. I was fascinated to go to the studio and see the ship developed like like you said, it was another interest from the block to dame. Why that was the routine. I was like, I'm going a sliphouse, this nigga my turn tables and he DJ in and nigga and then and then he knew rappers.

You get me. So I'm coming over a little banged out nigga trying to see what's and nigga's actual rappers walking in and they're making songs and getting on the mic, and I'm sitting there interested like it was another interest. And that's what termed you know what I'm saying. And you had good niggas like I started showing up to the hood. Usually it was trag New Park sweatshirts and and then now you know, I'm wearing Comfidence Most Wanted ship and like that ship, I'm branding nobody mw on

your shirt. Why you ain't got tracked New on your But then listen, I remember that, And then all of a sudden, didn't see a motherfucking movie. Come on? Then see eight? They here eight songs like don't nobody say yeah, like Chier that's eight. Oh, let's just start happening. Then you start transforming the streets at the track News and the wood who component one like this Nikes from the branch yourself because it's get big. I remember, I remember

when you were funking with with with with Cut. I'm like, okay, they funking black tone. My niked quick, my niked you was my Nick? Remember every contras said right through complicated, every rapper except eight. I said, this is back in the day. Did I get I get to I'm at all Star, get some dating fixing? Something all was said like your rolled down on by like eight niggas for what? Yeah? Nick, ain't you that nigga with Nick? The nigga RBS uh

yeah on RBS. Then he said, you you smashedhippy whopper in Compton except eighteen and what's what you said about watching? I said, nigga, man, Nigga. I told the hole nigga, it was a wrap birds homie person. I said, it was a wrap birds homie. We're in the street. Now, what's happen when central man like bro and we was on the block. Nigga, watch naked. Who wouldn't just so happen? A couple of the watch niggers like the way I held myself. They just don't give a funk about what

you're saying. It's how you hold yourselves. If you run, if you tuck kills tail and get the aching, then you're probably gonna get to a ship dick with these niggers. But I stood up. Nigga, nigga, it was a rat nick I was talking about for rat ship, my nigga for East Long Beach. They said that a tripping like that be that nigg But that's how it really was. But that's when that's why it's good to have morals

and backbones in Inglewood. Cause a bloody bash that smoke like I remember that, I said, damn said, flash every legend, and that's all I knew. That was just me being me. That's that nigg that you had to ride the motherfucking safety to to to Hollywood every day, and that was really off the battle of niggas from every neighborhood didn't have to Yeah, I didn't have to. Get had to make sure when I'm in the studio that I got. I gotta watch the clock because at twelve forty is

the last bus going my way. So I gotta be on that last bus leaving Hollywood going downtown l A. And if I missed that, and I'm walking from downtown at l A the Long Beach. Oh you see my hand. I went downtown in l A couple a year, right. So Nick is always talking about this rap shit. I mean, it might be sweet for some other niggas, but it was really rough. We was really young, really good cutting

shot and ship. So it so when you see me push up in the may back of something, don't think how that Nike lucky because his folks looked out nigga. My folks they looked out for ship. Nick. I pushed my line on the block. Nick, you better find out, man. We appreciate your good good man. It was fun coming through my Nicholas she did. Next time it's gonna be a feat. I'm gonna have to have you called my agent. We find to go Hollywood, so we're gonna niggas get

at my I'm trying to fees. Next time. I'll know what the I know what it is, I'll know what it do, and y'all know what to do out there. Man. Make sure y'all smashed that like button man plus subscribe or whatever the fucks on. Man. We appreciate you. We aut here. We'll see you next week. We are Chi Jim Well. That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the I Heart app and subscribe

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