Pin the tail on the donkey

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months or so. Um. You can find James on Facebook with the Red Harley as his profile, or you can hit him up on Instagram at b I G G J thirty six. He still has those shirts nine zero nine hundred zero four. To get those T shirts. You can find Reggie right on Bomb First. I guess this is gonna be his last. He's got probably one more Bomb First show left. That's on Tuesday nights at seven

thirty pm. And he's on Facebook and Instagram at Reggie dot Right dot jr. And you can find me at Street Gangs dot com just click on the contact link or just go to at alex Alonzo one zero one on all social media platforms Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. All right, so before we start the show, Reggie Wright has a bone pick. What's what's going on? Reggie once again controlling on YouTube and that saw a dude that I guess because we had and he's not He's trying to blow

up off of us. And I don't know why I'm giving them this attention, but I can't do it. I can't let niggas call us out because we've been out there too low. Me and James been out there too long and they deal with too many niggas. Will be letting bit chas niggas call us out. So so what did uh fosco one drom Ingo would say, well, I'm gonna let James play. I'm great playing for James so we can hear it again because you know, James don't be on this YouTube ship, so he don't be hearing ship.

All right, look let's play this audio clip then cool. You know it's crazy. I was already on Gangster Chronicles, right, But me, I was on Gangster Chronicles when they first started. And when they first started, they were just podcasting. They wasn't doing no like videos on YouTube, and they didn't have no YouTube videos. It was just them podcasting and you had to tune in, said the podcast on the podcast ship that you had to like tune in. So

that's when I did it. But I think, honestly, like, honestly, what kills me about the Gangster Chronicles? Blood? You know what killed this is the this is the thing about the Gangster Chronicle. I don't see the I don't want to hear about two snitches telling nigga about Gangster Chronicles. Blood. How is two snitches blood? Reggie right? Blood? You was the police. Blood? Like, how are you telling me who's snitching and talking about snitches? And you with the fucking police. Blood,

Like you're the fucking police. But what are you talking about? You snitched on the nigga every time you lock the nigga. Fun you talking about blood. You snitched on plenty of nigg every time you took a nigga to jail, had to go to court, wrote a police report. You snitched on the nigga. So how the fund is an ex police talking about snitching? Now, Blood, That's what I'm saying. Blood. And then Mob James, Blood, you snitched about your brother.

You snitched the niggle was wearing the wire whatever niggle was wearing the rod. But basically you want near snitching

about Joe death for all days too. Blood, And it's like like god damn, but like both of you niggas got jackets, but talking about everybody else who got the jacket like like, don't get me wrong, Like the show is very interesting, it's interesting to hear this ship, but it's like Blood, we've been hearing about these tuopop stories for twenty something years now, damn near thirty years, but we're going on damn me or thirty years Tupocket big E been dead and all these stories. But I don't

want to just hear this ship from two snitches. But where's everybody else? But where's all the outlaws and everybody else? Who got the inside scoops and the inside the counts? But why are just the two snitches are like? But I'm just saying, but like both you niggas got jackets. But this nigga was a police blood, this nigga was working with This nigga was the police, and this nigga was working with the police. I'm just saying, but serious, ship, Oh ship, that's not boo, that's not okay. That was

Bosco talking about specifically you two guys. He didn't say anything about me, but he definitely had some things to say about Reggie and James. Yeah, that's funny coming from him, because before I let James respond, I got some more audio I want to play for him. Well before before you continue, he was a guest on this show before I became a regular, like a little and my question is what did he say to yall when she is right here? You know you had options, You didn't even

have to come down there to this show. If that, if this is what you was thinking, then what type of cat is you to know? This ship right here or felt a certain kind of way, but didn't come down to shake mob. James jan my name is James anyway, my nigga, but it comes and shake my hand. I wouldn't embrace no niggas like that. I don't funk with clowns, man. And that's why I don't even get down like that no more. Because you got shade treas ninkers that coming

here and then want to get down like that. I said, I wouldn't gonna even fly get mad, but to speak on my brother. Let me explain something to you, killer. I love my brothers, I love my sisters, I love my brother kids. I'm family and family orientated all through. If you don't understand that, then you really didn't. Wherever you got your your information from you you you're lacking it. I was a witness in my brother's case for my brother. My brother got found not guilty all charges. He was

a character witness. I was the only witness besides my mama and my nephew was a witness. I'm the only one I got my brother out of jail. Dumbass. I just don't, dude, I don't even know you like that, and I'm not gonna speak on you, A gonna call you know names. You don't know me. I don't know you.

When I met you, you were shaking my hand, called the O G called me yeah, and and and for that, and then to wake up and hear some ship like this motherfucker's calling me telling me you're talking like this, bro, do your thing. Man, I'm not I'm not no video gangster. I'm not no I pid all this other bullshit you do that you know, be at every Wednesday night, you nigga, you know what we're gonna be at next uh next

Wednesday night. So I'll put you as a v I P. If you can get out, you know, because I know the eighteen Street niggers don't even let you out of the house. Because I've been talking to people. They say, you can't even you gotta get an escort to get out of your your your mama house. Nigga is still forty some years old living with his mama. That's some that's some gay ship. Up. I'm not with I don't funk about none of that's you do so anyway, um, but but play anyway, play this this part. We got

another audio clip. We got another audio clip audio clip that Reggie brought in murder walking out your door, your neighbor get murdered in front of a twelve year old boy early on in his life, he witnessed the murder walking out your door, your neighbor get murdered in front of a twelve year old boy that was traumatizing. He had to go to court. He had to be a witness. Guess what. The system failed him because we didn't do the right things to get him the help that he needed.

Early on in his life, he witnessed the murder, walking out your door, your neighbor get murdered in front of a twelve year old boy that was traumatizing. He had to go to court. He had to be a witness. Guess what. The system failed him because we didn't do the right things to get him the help that he needed. Okay, that sounds familiar. Did you get that from redg Anyway? That's from Street Games, uh, with Alex interviewing Bosco with his mama at his mama house, which he's saying is

his house, but that is my my house. But anyway, my point to that this one does you're the only one that's in here that's been on the stand and testifying on motherfucker's But you call the nigga snitchers. Your mama just said you was on the stand and how to testify us the only official rat or snitch that was ever in that room that day, because nigga, you gotta under stand and testified. Not only did you do that, you dry snitch when Rose Molts seven hundred whooped your ass.

You think people forgot about that. I know a lot of young kids don't remember that for Rosemo seven hundred whooped your ass. So you go and try to be on Instagram and and all that, like, you know, because rosemok him up there a month or two later, but he also had problems with Whack one hundred in the game. But everybody in l A know. I know you try to take credit for it, but everybody in l A no, it was in Mexican that that was a blood. He wasn't even the Mexican game. And that was a part

route from I only want n HP. Fuck it, I'll say it, and I'm the police n HP that killed him. Everybody knows that, yo. Bitch asked you know, you trying to make the food the little youngsters on the on a on a Instagram or the idea or whatever that you was the one that had something to do with it. No bitch ass nigga, you didn't have shipped to do with it. But what you did and what we know street niggas know and me because I would have been around all types of niggas I've been, I was thinking

about it on the way here. I would have been affiliated with every nigga. Niggas always wanta try to say police police, I would have been affiliated with every nigga from Watts, either from death Row, the weed game or my police career and from Compton. But you can want to I can't think of a game that I ain't cool with that. No niggas from there. One of the only niggas they probably can say that in l A

County that that's been cool with everybody. But my point to that was you was dry snatching when you're putting pictures of yourself in the hospital bed and all of that bullshit at the Rosebow seven and whooped your ass putting pictures up of yourself while you're in the hospital bed, all on the internet and ship that's snitch and drives because you're letting police know anything happened to me, those niggas is the one who did it. That's what you

was doing. So Bosco, then we gave you a little five minute, a little thing because you that's all you. That's the only reason you spoke on it and needed the ship for to help you out. So I hope this help you, brother, But I know, I know, hold on, hold on, I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't want it to help you. I want you to understand, dude, all that what y'all calling trolling, trilling, whatever the funk you're doing, man, whatever, cloud chasing or whatever. I ain't.

I don't even know you from jack Ship. But the one day you come up here and all I knew is uh, Bosco. You shook my hand, We wooked, we talked, we interact, we changed conversations in this booth, and you was cool as funk. If you had a problem with me, man, I'm cool enough. Man, tell me you gotta beef with me. Tell me I unlocked my brother up in my face, then I can understand this bullshit you're doing. But I mean,

I don't get down like that. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna respond to nothing else that you got going on, because it's it's bullshit. My brother is at home, alive and well, and I'm and I'm here alive and well, and I I'm glad my brother's at home. So if you did your homework, you to check Facebook. You you to talk to a nigg over there in the neighbor and they have told you that situation, what happened with my brother. I went to court for my brother, but you,

I don't. I don't have to explain ship to you. But I love my family and I just hate when niggas attacked my family or me. So I don't give a funk what you're talking about. I don't give I don't, I don't. I don't know you, dude. I don't know you, dude, and I wish I never met you. I I just hate niggas like this and and this cat ain't never never ever saw me that even be speaking on me, even speaking on ship about incomforting period. I don't, I don't, man,

I'm just trying my best. I didn't understand why he said that. In the beginning, there was just a audio podcast, but now they got a video as if he was trying to make some point about the progression of this show. What did that matter? What do get? What gets chronicles? Oh they're doing good, but they will do woo anybody that I've there that listen to us, No, goddamn well, we don't talk about death Row or no Tupac daily on the on show. We ain't talking about old school ship.

We're talking about what people want to know, their comments and my experience, and we mix it up. We mixed it up and we try to answer questions from the fans. No one ever heard me speak on anybody else or no snitching on no nigga that was with death Row, death Road. If I speak on what I knew and no other on death Row, that's my business. Mind your business. That nigga looked like Whoopi Goldberg and you know that's his new name. What was the most important thing he

said in that whole little rant? The show is interesting though. The show is interesting. That's all that matters. Is interesting. Have you ever heard of somebody kind of this and y'all but at the same time complimenting him? Check it out. So the pictures will be posted on bomb first tomorrow of your ass getting your ass whooped of the beat down, the app efects and all that. He don't care about none of that. Don't know how much of a bit

he is. They don't know that he's a bit as nigga out here in the streets of l A and Inglewood. He shouldn't be speaking on us like that. All right, Let's move to some of the man. That's so many hot topics in the news right now since the last show we did. But the first thing I want to talk about is a guy we talked about a couple of times on the show is Takashi six nine. They say he just signed a ten million dollar deal with

his former record label and Reggie. My question to you is, if he's about to go do five years, six years, why would a record label even be interested in him. We ain't see no paperwork. We don't know that is true. We can ConTroll like that all day and put out something. Well, my story didn't even say that he get Tim me and that was se We think that's what you signed and you got Tim and deal. They said the deal

is worth tim million dollars. That's it was to do two albums, and TIMZ reported and Tim's is pretty accurate, very rarely TMZ if somebody called him to tell him that's what it is. But his record label is not a big major label that could be signed to somebody that wasn't air stuff, that's not BMG, that's I don't know who. I never even had independent label. So they're gonna put out stuff like that for Peter R. Pope.

He's not getting out on the A team, just like I told y'all about Jim Jones and the stuff on the internet about here. Now, trust me, man, I know this game. He's not getting out on the eighteenth. And that deal is not tim million dollars signing bonus. It's just a fucking what the deal could be worth. If it's not publicity stunt, if it's not pure well, it shows that there's still an interest in him regard regardless even though he's I told Joe it's gonna be an interest.

He gonna half his fan is gonna still supporting, yeah, and half his fans is better than should still what eighty percent of the artists out there doing. Now. He has a following and it's mostly kids overseas, and they don't give a funk about no snitching and all of that, bullshot. Little white kids don't care about that. Yeah, I mean I I believe he's definitely gonna come back in the game and and do music and make money. I didn't think it was gonna be this quick that reports and

stories already about him inking the deal. When you hear a major behind him Interscope, m c A Universal people like that ares to BMG, then you kind of get concerned. The name of the record company is ten K Projects and it's a two album deal, supposed to do one album in English and a second album in Spanish. Mhm, God up. Well that they must know something too, because he must be getting out soon. Probably not on the eighteen. Yeah, nobody knows. Okay. Um, last week you teached us with

the Harry Oh's judgment was vacated. But since then, this story has pretty much hit every single media outlet and it's become a bigger story. And um, I know you actually covered it on first and I wanted to talk a little bit more about that because what was interesting is is the judgment vacated because Lydia did not divulge that she had a bankruptcy When she and bankruptcy, that would make the illegal or fraud. All right, this is

what people don't know being vacated. Whenever you go through bankruptcy, everything get discharged once your bank is over. Yeah, but the vacade is this deal is different. They're basically saying that it should have never They should have never won the case in the first place. You still lost all your assets, everything still was sold. You still have a file for chapter eleven or chapter seven. So so it's been gone. Let me ask you did did Sugar Night

file bankruptcy solely based on this judgment from Harry. So let's just say this judgment never happened. Where would have death Row went at that time? Where would have went? Yeah, hopefully it would have been pained as Ira, which was his second biggest judgment that was out there. He owed the Franchise Tax Board instead of California and the i R S a bunch of money, but he would have been making payment plans to him. They might have put a lean on the catalog or something like that, but

he would have probably still owned everything. Definitely. So this this judgment from Harry oh and Lydia Harris pretty much sunk Sugar and death Row. And now we're finding out from a judge, Oh, it should have never happened. The trustees knew that at the time. We was ting. I was helping you, I was working with at the time, I was telling them, hey filed bankrupts in nineteen ninety eight. They followed, so, why does Lydia's bankruptcy Why is that

such a big deal. I don't understand Alan at that time, when you have it, if you own something ninety four you have to declare everything you own when you file bankruptcy. She didn't say. They didn't say at that point they had any ownership or any interest in death row records. But then two thousand seven, two thousand six come along they said, oh, oh yeah, we had interests in an ownership. But everybody forget Harrrio had a whole fucking grand jury

going on. He was meeting with the grand jury in nine, nineteen ninety eight. He had got moved from his his jail, and he was down working in the NBC calling people like Rick, James, Juel and all of them the court to testify. That's when they shot that Welcome to death Row bullshit uh DVD that came out ninety ninety nine. When they had all of those people working with them. But the whole get down is when people gonna get mad because y'all know, I go in and out with

your night, but I just speak the real man. She'll night doing some snitching, y'all. Oh, he's doing some snitching because he's talking about going through the fucking FBI and trying to get Harroo locked up. And why why bring it up now he's trying to get Harrio locked up or stay locked up because everybody think Harryo's out, Harry on and out, Harry's still in custody. Why would be bringing up some ship like this that was discharge three or four years ago. It really was this charge. It's

not gonna benefit him anyhow. Lydia ain't sitting on a hundred number one. Lydia never got her instil a million dollars. They ain't got a penny only but that million dollars that she gave him in two thousand and eight, So why isn't bringing up Why do you even care? If y'all know anything? Blast dot com is a website that she'll use us to get his voice out because his grown friend Toy has a relationship with blast dot com.

Why is this coming up? Now, Harry, I was trying to get out this justin been gonna it doesn't benefit you anyway, ain't like lydy and they don't setting on any money. No one's involved in this, this bank ropcy and sitting on a hundred seven million dollars. No, I wouldn't want harryo and jail if I don't want him to come home shoot doing time twenty years? Why talk about why talking about taking it to the FBIDA, How are you gonna be from it anyway? Exactly? So why

would he do that? I mean, Harry, you're gonna get out of My point is why why is he talking like that? Or would he He's n that's what he's doing. He's a bitter man. I would be better too. This man cost him his company. And so the same time that Harry and then was showing wouldn't that or corrupt? Shooting shook too well. Everybody was trying to sue to say that the money. But I had did a buy out with Dass for I had brought all that I owned, that publishing rights. To be honest, it's a company out

there called I looked it up, Simon says. Simon says, uh uh, Simon says, I forgot the name of my company. Simon says something, and Big Simon says, Big Simon's and Big Simon, I don't want those two. I did buyouts from everybody that was old money during that time. I brought all the rights and everything. I just ain't never went out to collect the money because because of the bank ruptcy, because I didn't want to be involved in the big rusty court and the bullshit. But Dass was

paid out. I got paperwork, We got paperwork where we bought all his rights and gave him seventy fives to say bye. So but I wasn't working with you at the time when people started making all these different claims. But everybody that out there that knows everybody see the name, Big Simon says, and Simon says, music publishing. That's what the name was. So how did this this case get into a court in two thousand nine team for a team and be vacated in the first place they took it.

They had their mind the mind Givings. I will see that name a lot. Mind Givings is an attorney that that calls this bankruptcy. That's who Lydia is. Claiming to be was her attorney at the time. Because he was

he was playing both sides. They'll go and research the l A Times and all of that where the mind givings is the one that that came down there and talked to Chuck Phillips and and said, how hey, he forgot and he didn't go and file the paperwork once she gave him the million dollars to uh to signs to sign off on on the uh under staying to satisfy the judgment. He said, oh, he forgot to do it.

But Harry heard about it. He read about it in the l A Times from this reporter named Chuck Phillips, and he immediately the next day he said, hey, Lidia committed fraud. She wasn't supposed to sign off on this, and I'm filing for divorce on her effective immunity, so she can't even negotiate my ow Yea'll gonna do your research and you're gonna find out. This is some interesting stuff, but it doesn't mean anything. What y'all think. Hyas Boro gonna give back the rights to death row. They don't

give up. That's on the bankruptcy judge either already put it out and and and then and dismissed everything and went through it. If anybody has some culpability, it would be Lydia. And if Haroo signed off on it because they were married at the time in and he knew that she filed bankruptcy, then it may be some some problems there. But that's the only reason. What else, why why even if so, why be saying that you're gonna

take this to the FBI. I'm just gonna sue it, sue you civilly, or I'm gonna try to sue the judge or the receivers or the attorneys and Bob because they knew this. Because if he has some record or some something where he wrote that and said, hey, I know that the Hairs filed bankruptcy and and you guys need to investigate that because that was an easy to investigate. If she brought that up in that was an easy investigation. But y'all keep looking at that word he's saying, I'm

going to take this to the FBI. I didn't hear that part is that an article? Is that article? Well, it's it's confusing that it's coming up in two thousands nothing. People think it means something they're not. No one one nobody ever got a hundred seven million dollars. No one. The Harrison has only got that million dollars that he gave Lydia that I think his boy the mind givings

who he met. He met. This is an attorney that he met in the fucking visiting room or the attorney room that does parole violation hearings when he was in there for parole violation. I always tell everybody, he's always trying to practice law. He finds a stupid attorney to letting practice law under his degree and the mind the mind, I did that, and that's what got him that hundred seven million dollar judgment. So, so Lydia got a million for supposedly signing off on the deal, signing off on

canceling the lawsuit. Right right, the hundred seven million, that's not a very uh fair deal. Right, I'm gonna take a million dollars even though I was selling. That's all I got. And I'm telling you, I'm gonna file bankerl See. If you don't do it, you better take something. So she got the million got did she break off her husband at the time? Michael Harris, Hey, Michael ain't no pump. Even he was in jail, he was no pump, I'm sure.

But one thing he did though, he filed with the vorce on her as the next day because he's pissed and she took that million exactly. But at the same time, if you're gonna file bankruptcy, you canna end up getting nothing. When the nigga said in jail like telling want te in five, you know he probably was one to negotiate with him better because she has many trips up there

to see here. You I have been with him, I hadn't been with David Kinner and him that you know, they go make trips to see her, you and talk to him. I'd still say that Harry only put a penny in the death row. If you never did that. Why what his shog interest in Harry You at the time, broker, I've been around and and the dealings that that some of Harry ohomies had with Shugar getting at him. He had some type of investment. But what was his reasons

for getting this Shugar man? Because someone against you? It was the conductor. He want to introduce him to Pat Johnson. Should there no Pat? You didn't know p j. Pat and HARRYO were close. They had the same attornity, David Kinner. That's the ship the shot that you want who who won't let me ride? When he was running at that was Pat Johnson shot. Well he put it in his name. That was the shot before you took over that show? Or was it? Yes, Pat Johnson? What do you look like?

He wasn't around? He was in prison? Okay, I didn't know that. Now a lot of shift to this. Okay, why y'all think this podcast, nigga, keep you D keeps saying we had the same bosses. Well, you ain't readcause Pat Johnson actually has an association with the crips. Keep this connected. Keep you D worked for Pat Johns. I think Pat Johnson maybe actually a south Side Compton cript, I mean the next south side. He's from a spooktown or occasions spookdown, whereas Harry Oh has an affiliation with

the Bounty Hunters. But I don't think he's from Bounty Hunter. I heard he's from the low Bottom so t Carter. All of them had the same attorney that the same that was due named Roger Rosen and David Kinner. Well, I know, and I used to be a dolphins when you used to call when it's when we was child, not to answer that car phone. They um stop answering Harrio's call. When Yeah, when the guys was coming up to death Bro getting that ship personally, and it was like,

you know, he was always in the loop. So I mean, maybe you got business. Maybe he's doing this. So niggas didn't trip on the Barney Hunters coming up there. I ain't gonna say who's coming up there, but you know didn't trip. You know what I'm saying, Chill it, guy.

I was there where the Bunny Hunters had David Krner walking him off the elevator, and it was about four of us fathers us walking getting on the elevator, and they left David Kinner on the elevator and then two niggas kept walking and just kept walking away, and David Kinder was like, oh, oh, thank you, thank you. Y'all just saved my life. Y'all just saved my life. They

used to do me so bad. I used to ride up the Palm Deal prison with David Kinner and I used to why the funk I'm riding up with the fucking attorneys And this didn't know what they telling me. It's coming right up here with me because he don't know he had a cue that it was because they were scared that he was gonna send some niggas that maybe killing that because they knew he was coming from attorney visit did he used to tell you do you have your got came out a clue, So he was

he was nervous. There's a lot of nervous times for David Canner. Then with everybody owned that bro, everybody was walking on their on their children. See, that's another great reason to interview David Canner. He's got some stories to tell. I'm not talking about the attorney client privileged stuff, but just the experience of being the attorney for this those a mafia attorneys. Motherfucker's ain't talking. They lose all they would give, They would never get another client. But he's

he's near retiring. I'm sure he's still I'm sure he's got kids, so he saved his money. I'm sure he's got his retirement at some point. He don't want to tell a story never, he ain't stupid like us. Yeah. Well, what I find interesting about this is that the judgment was vacated. And this is the judgment that pretty much buried the company and without But it's only vacated because

Lydia did not disclose the bankruptcy. Now what if you just put on there, yes, I do have a bankruptcy from you still assume no because now you you you supposed to put in all of your assets and the creditors in supposed to got that percentage of the money that that interested in that company of death Row. So that's what people get. She left when they when you own something, you know you they would have came out her percentage. Okay, your own then hey I gotta sell that.

So but technically she didn't own any of death Throw right, we should Night contended that they never had any ownership, and they found a lawsuit in nineteen four nineteen ninety five, they paid them Interscope. That's why the Interscope thinking soon, they gave them three hundred thousand dollars for it to go away. In nineteen ninety six, shook as this didn't want to pay no attorneys and deal with it is

the only reason he got that job. He pissed that judge also over that what that judge even said Mr Mr Knights, since you don't want to give up any paperwork or or do anything that the court is acting you, I'm giving you a hundred seven million dollars default judgment, which we're never gonna get collected in the first place. That's why they thought high hi hi. Judge was out like that to put you out, to put you in the bankruptcy. Well, he should have. He should have handled

it by coming to court. He could have probably prevented that. You could probably prevented anything had to do and said, I, he had an attorney to write some paperwork. They're saying what Interscope said to get dismission that case in nineteen and two thousand seven. That was all he had to do was write the same thing, and said, I did that, And all they said was we paid, we settled this case in And where was David Kenner at during all

these years. I was already gone, all right, because to a certain degree, should could have prevented this judgment from he was playing attorney. That's what I was trying to tell you. He was playing attorney himself. And he had stupid motherfucker's a chick named Sherry. Oh that that chick that your brother started sucking at Sherry Tearry something, Terry, Terry, Terry something. She's a crack part stupid as woman attorney. She started sucking Timmy Rue. That's how bad she. He

put this way. I only know who ever knew this. I don't even know you. This is how bad this nigga was. This is how funked up nigga. No, Kimmy Rude living with this, this attorney loving this white bitch. Right, he had her coming up there doing attorney visits with his silly and they got car fucking then they got damn attorney room at mule a Mule Creek. I ain't gonna say Jimmy was all in love with her because because she was paying. Yeah, exactly, Timmy, she was playing.

Let me say that Timmy got sixteen seventeen kids allegedly, No, he got more than that. My pointed that the niggas a pimp, he's a quat film. He got nineteen children, and that that his one was known not to be through DNA, but the other ones are his. He has nineteen kids. I'd say you are the nineteen kids he got. E loving baby mamas. Did you get the white girl Terry pregnant. But but she was paying, and he would go over there and spend nice winter. He wouldn't live

in with her, you know what I'm saying. But she was, she was giving him. But I can't think her left. They said, my life. But Terry and um when the mind give us two of the worst attorneys ever, she fully ship just like the mother Culpepper. What happened in their case, it's still pending. You talking about Matthew attorney Culled Pepper. Yeah, they gotta try, just like those two mothers. They're just stupid. Well, one of them was good, but

one of them was Matthew Fleshers. My boy, he's a pretty good attorney, but he did get caught on audio saying things he shouldn't have been saying. I think some of it could be interpreted in a way that doesn't make him seem one of them was good. But um, so where did the Terry the lawyer, the white girl lawyer? Was she a lawyer for death row at that time? He After I left in two thousand two, I can't I did come back with two thousand two, he was

David Kenner was gone. Jeff Lawrie, who's running a Disney business affair and now he was scraping the was a good business man, but I didn't want to spend the money on quality exactly, you know what I'm saying. And then at the end of the day him up. Yeah. So he had Dermant and Terry as his lawyers. Big emotion from David Kenner and Don Ray and they didn't do the leg to prevent this hundred and seven million dollar judgment from happening. Easy. It was an easy fix.

All they had to do was say, hey, we paid this off in I was actually shocked when he won the judgment because I'm like, damn, how does the dude from prison, just on his words say I started the company. And then when the judgment it wasn't even that. It was because the judge got so pissed because he wouldn't turn over anything by default he want. Yeah, he wouldn't turn over any he wouldn't respond to because Michael Harris has to prove that he started the Company's got to

provide some sort of documentary. So the cool with you don't think he proved that it wanted it. Yeah, he didn't have videos of cass going from from one of his boy's hands to sugar you think keep DK in the court to testify that, Oh yeah, I took bags of cash to David Kenner. Are to a sugary y'all ever just thought anybody out there, how you ever really

thought Sugar Knight is a human beings. This dude went from no money to a millionaire when he hits it from chocolate and uh when that wasn't no money though, that was Jump James money. That money was going in two days and Sugar and enjoy spending money. He went from from not having it, you're having it and and well it was just from the start, Big James, because people don't know care juggle yeah, I mean, and keep it going like that ninety three, ninety four, ninety five.

He didn't have to do anything illegal that he didn't want to nothing because they were time one er and m c A and all that would cut him whatever check. He was in home run. He was. But that's what I'm saying. Now, everything is in your pocket, everything is in your hand. You don't have to do what we was doing at Furnhell Records. You know what I'm saying, shooting in the buildings and and all this other other ship. So here you got a guy just got money that

he can funk off. So now you started incorporating all the bad things that you don't need, meaning the homies, us, meaning certain females. He was working with that with no good uh, just typical chicks in one night, was getting or leaving about it there at the motel room or at the club with fifteen bucks. You know what I'm saying. He got him going to buy a drink, mother buck, come back sug loading. Now he's drinking and doing all this ship he didn't know, didn't give a fun tonight.

Let's take that f FBI shoot out out there. Don't let people. Don't let people steer you down that road. Man. I know you mad, I know you're listening because I didn't got word that you'll be listening to the podcast. Homie, take that p I out. We don't get down like that dog. They say we do, but we don't take it out. What would he go to the FBI with? What does he got? Michael Harris case, Yeah, okay, committed

from bankruptcy, froud bankruptcy, froude. If they did that, should have got money coming who they ain't got nothing, Michael Harrio and no, Lydy ain't got nothing. He probably got the million dollars that he gave. That money gone. That million dollars is gone in jail, and any money he has stashed away is cash. Yeah, what he's doing is providing an opportunity for the feds. The I R s the Feds to look into it if they care. But

it's Michael Harris. So maybe they do, and maybe they're like, we don't are they look a look at how many social media has been on me. But that's a cold thing to be not You're in a position, you're in prison already to attack this man. This ain't no no sidewinder as catch you fucking with? So why would he risk his life to come into somebody like that behind bars. Let's make it clear. This is REGI chronicles area that don't that don't make no sense. I really don't see him.

I mean everything you said, I hear you, because you know what you call that pat check whatever, check me on on a few things. And and a couple of people that hit me with information. It's important to get the information. Look up ship, learn what you're talking about. I understand what you're talking about. And then you're a straight student. That's why the people want to know. But to be a part of this, I gotta I got to know what I'm talking about because you speak from

the legman's point of view. I just tried to you know, I'm speaking from uh uneducated. Then go listen, listen, listen what I'm saying. I ain't went, I ain't did no college. I ain't got uh alex credits, I ain't got you uh book And he ain't that that being there, did he finish college? Mark? Whether he did or didn't, I don't have them. I don't finished with big words. I don't come off like that. I just say what I

have to say, so I'm understanding it. But then you say the f B I I don't see shugar being you don't made a lot of mistakes, trust me, we all have. We all have. I ain't just saying you so, if you're listening, we have made a lot of mistakes. And I like, but to do something like that, I thank you. I said this people. Then I said people to stop. I said, I said, your people on that and making it look like he's the one that's that's

his people doing that. But wouldn't Lydia Harris be the one that gets more trouble since she was doing all the paperwork. She was the one that was free. Michael Harris, Harryo was in custody during this whole thing. You don't think he had a turney. You did it. You don't think it's a turney. More paperworking there for him to sign and stuff. You never had attorney visitor. You ain't know her. Niggas and jail have an attorney visit. Absolutely, yeah.

But to keep the man in jail, I mean, if all why you say, why keep that going to that man? Have been in jail a long time, So you gotta be a really fucked up person to want to see a motherfucker back in that same position that you're in right now today. All right, You know what, This actually seguation into one of the questions from one of our listeners. Uh So, what I'm gonna do is go to one of the questions and we'll come back to the news topic.

But one of these questions is actually for both Reggie and James if if Sugar Night wanted to discuss things that went on in the past, And this comes from King's Heam on Apple podcast, would Reggie and James be willing to talk? Would you be able to control y'all tempers? Yeah? My my, I don't have the anger, no animosity that I had, which you um and I tried to prove that was sending him to two hundred and fifty bucks. My my anger over my brother, I don't have it

no more. I had to let that go for me to heal and move on. So I'm thinking I've moved on from from all of that. BS. You know what I'm saying. My brother has been going seventeen years, seventeen years, so I don't have no reason to fight no more, you know what I'm saying. So if she wanted to talk to me, and I've told several people this when I when I sent the money to to Rick, he ain't got to say thank you, he ain't got to say shit. Uh funk that, nigga. But I take the money.

I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that. I did what I wanted to do and I'm done. But if she wanted to sit down and so James, you know what I'm saying, I'll sit all day and talk to ship and in particular that you would want to bring up in a conversation, I wouldn't want to know, And the only thing I would want to talk about is the questions I have about Alson. I still have unanswered questions about that, and a lot of them. You know

what I'm saying. And you know why you didn't do this when you know you was you know, right there, you know, crying with my mother. You know my mother was was hurt behind half of the things that didn't happen that he said he was gonna do and nobody had to to do anything, and and she believed in him. Me and her fault over it. You know what I'm saying. My mama didn't put me out of her house so many times mentioned and she would. She loved and she loved him like a mug because should helped her sons.

You know what I'm saying. And that's all she's seen. You know what I'm saying. She'll have been over there numerous times and hey, Miles here, who whoo, who whoo whoo. You know what I'm saying, No questions that she walked away, Mama, how much you get you well yet out my dad business and who I know that side of shilled. But then the other side of shilled. So yeah, I got a whole bunch of questions. Why you didn't do the funeral like you said you was gonna do the funeral.

Why you didn't do this like you said this? My mom had been waiting for you for three days. This didn't happen. And I think James didn't know money wasn't like that then, I I didn't have to know that. Don't promise nothing, but he was trying to make He went to Johnny Cocker. I think I told you this on uh in private or maybe at first. Johnny Conchring is the one to get him out. All of two whatever money that he put up for the funeral, to help out with the funeral, it came from Johnny Conchering

waiting for him to get give him that check. Okay, and and and this is one of the things that I said, like like some of the homies, I was mad at I feel bad because I'm mad now that that this and that didn't happen. You know, there was the firework that none of this happened. So my anger is towards everybody. Let me back away from these guys. To me, I'm done. So first was the first time I actually realized when Sarrita was on. I do know Sugar is a big kid. I do know. Sheuld like

to have ship his way. Should like to be in front. If you got thirty niggers, she gotta be in front. That's why we had the little riders. That's why he had two portions in the business, and then the Lambs and all of that ship the Roses, and every time we pulled up, damn, we're looking like clouds. And you got one Rose Royce here, and and you know so. But but she is a big kid, and she was like this ship his way. She would like to do things just a little jealous heart out relationship with you.

Never had me and should personally one on one and never had a bad word towards each other. Now I don't heard things, and that's what he's always getting mad at me. But I was close with all his bitches because I took care of them while with the jail, I was pretty much him. I was doing everything for them. But you know, and so you say, no, I know I know that history were not ever touched a woman this sick and they've never been with that way. But anyway, um, I me and him. He never had a bad word

towards each other ever. And um, but everything that I did and even now reacting is from hearing second or third handed, is why, and that's why I go in and out with him. That he says things about you, and you've heard some negative things that he saw. The worst thing guy ever heard him say about me is you know once again, think you don't attack my family that that out and McDonald was not my brother, that was my cousin. Where would you get that from well,

not even a shoe night would even say that. Where where would he get this from? This my blood brother? You know what I'm saying? We got the same motherfucking mom. He publicly said that somewhere it came to me. He never like that. You hear it all set in a third hand from me. Everything is second hand. You believe it because it becomes from people. That's that's close to what. You don't know if it came from the person that actually heard it. Though I heard a lot of ship,

but I don't say ship. So I just had and have still have a lot of ship bottled up and shot at me. If me and sugar and choked, I would love it if I was, sugar, and I was gonna talk to you. I bring up that whole kidnapping situation that apparently and he was behind he kind of people got to trust it behind. It was a a laughing place. It was just a said. But the fact that it was mentioned, and I'm sug I'm saying to myself,

is that the way they think? And I was shipped right here in your faith, sugar night and tell you, yeah, you have you had me mad, You had me feeling a certain kind of way fund it and and and I have toolked suged this. You got me fucked up. But James wasn't the one. Let me just say that, James wasn't the one that cut the bee for it the heat for through somebody else that was pushing it. That rock Chisholm said verified and told yeah, well Red just telling us or telling you it's true, because they

told me to step back. I'm too close m hm. And that one James, James didn't come up. I didn't take it to nobody. It was a conversation. You take one motherfucker to walk away from that conversation and say, oh mom, James said, who the whoo? WHOA now? Somebody else is on that same thought. Let me get this thing before he do. They ran with it, and they ran with it, and I bullshit with it. Shook many

many times. Then we'd have had calls with James and called up there and cuse because the office staff out telling me coming up there to do this and do that. And they will always say, Reggie, you gotta be careful because in that room you were just shooting the ship like like well, I used to drink. I mean back then, when the sun go down, it's on the cracket, um little faded minion. Times I didn't. I didn't went up to death Row on one and and it got to a point where, man, we gotta bag up from me.

We gotta a bunch of talk to talk to mom one day. Let me ride out draulics. Man, Come on, man, we gotta shut down. We gotta do something something to crack nigga. Y'all better gone where y'all going? This is my shop. The only way they can get me to walk out of there is to bring my mama to the shop and come on, Jais, let's just go and we would come back. Hold on my mom's sitting there drinking. I got a bitch, I'm whoo woo, let go do

woo woo. So but I left because my mama was God, I don't need just going crazy ship, So I bounced next morning. However, you feel they didn't, she'll get one addressed the situation, talk about it. So I took manage into my own hand. We did different ship, but that

was a long time ago. Man. You know one thing I say, if if we can go back and do this ship over, I think I would have been a little harder on ship, like more confrontational, like up closing personal the ship that we don't need, the ship that we really do. But other than that, yeah, but you know, we we give Sugar bad rap and he even get a bad rap about not paying artists and cheating artists and stuff. Man should really was a good dude. He

just played niggas again. The only problem he played niggas against each other and play people against each other. But other than that, if you catch him and get him at the right time, in the right place, and y'all would love that nigga. So what a conversation with would be like for you Reggie today if that sit down was possible, Man, what you've been saying that bull shoot about me, nigga. Why you say about me nig You know you always believe in a little motherfuckers and believe

in other you know. We was like this and like that, and they go like that, but let's go get some money. That all we will always say, come on, let's get this money. We just I mean before I got arrested. I got arrested two thousand seventeen, when Ship was in jail, me and him and his girl toy was on the phone. Then it every day trying to make good ways to make money people. I got arrested and it was like oh, and he kind of backed away and I heard a comment that was made and I got mad and I

started talking Ship. Well, I mean, it makes sense that you got indicted by the fence and he's fighting a statecase. He probably like, oh, Reggie's toxic right now, right, and you take offense to that now, didn't take defense to that part. I didn't say that. I'm just asking. I'm saying the laughing part. And you know a little things that will say that after that. But it's a well I sho annoyed. Che You don't say a lot of ship about a lot of after everything, you know, the

smoke clear. We we we talked once and twice and I talked to these people we in the process of the win a deal together on a on a TV show. Why the hell you just say that that because I ain't gotta deal with him, I'm dealing with the white folks. I gotta deal with Well, that was a great question from King him on an Apple podcast. But let's move back to some of the news topics. Um Joshua Brown Murder.

That conversation has been heating up this last week. A lot of people are still I've listened to to legitimate I would say legitimate shows because one of them is hosted buy an attorney, and they still believe this conversation is still out of the attorney goddamn. And I'm not talking about his attorney. I'm talking about some shows that

have attorneys as the host. They still believe that there's a conspiracy, that there's something going on and the Dallas Police Department and giving us and I felt that way on our last podcast. Now, I am gonna say, Reggie sent me something and I watched it. Now Real Street Real, Real Street Ship. If this guy which on that video you show me, I see a cat in his in his kitchen smoking weed. You just sent me a video of ninety million black boys at home, you know smoking that.

Don't make me a killer. Y'alla y'ada or whatever. He had a history before anybody even met him, before he even got on that stand. He would, you know, living the thug like whatever, getting his money? How you get his money to pay his bills? How many how many cats out here living like that? There's so many of the Joshua Browns out here today? But why would they killers? Dude? If he don't testified already, she didn't got her ten years? Why kill him now? Well, Reggie brought up the civil case.

That's that's pending um and case they can use. They can use this just so he doesn't matter. Police said, they goddamn stupid. And that's why I say that. Then you have and I said, these other three cats that he read into, we gotta hear what's going on with them. Can we just fact check the Joshua Brown in because I'm not sure if we had it correct last week? But Joshua Brown got into an argument with Daddius Green that escalated into a physical altercation. They say Brown pulled

his trap out first fired on the Aquarius Mitchell. The one was in the passenger back seat, Yeah, not the one he was arguing. He's arguing with Daddius. He shoots the Aquarius Mitchell, but then um Thaddeus Green returns fire and shoots Brown Ice and kills him. They all flee, except for Jaquarius Mitchell because he's injured. They drop him off at the hospital. The two flee, but the first

one arrested is um Is Michael um Michael Mitchell. The third well, they both fled and then Michael Mitchell was arrested in Louisiana on October eight, and as of this week, daddy Is Green has still not been arrested. He's still running, still on the run. He still running. Take this whole situation and dramatize the picture and in your head this ship happens every day. Drug deals going back, and you can get killed over weed, and you can get killed over a pounded less than a pounded. It ain't got

to spend the money. And I got the product. Well, one of the conspiracy theorists I heard said, no, nobody gets killed over weed. It's legal. Why would you get killed over weed. But they're thinking, they're thinking they're buying out. They're not figuring these the pounds we're talking about. This dude was selling pounds. He wasn't selling. But we don't even know if this is about. It could have just been about something completely different that caused this whole altercation.

While he's gonna have a pound on him in his backpack though he came down with a pound. Let me add something else to what happened. They took the backpack with his gun, with Joshua Brown's gun, and I guess the pound of weed. So when the police came, there's no gun there on on Joshua Brown. They got it. They got it, but they know one of their boys

shot with a different guy at the hospital. They got him critical condition, so they gotta do some ballistic checking and make sure who shot who, Who had what gun? What gun did Joshua have? So I guess the one of the guy that's in the hospital got shot with Joshua's gun. That that we don't know if it's been recovered. Like you always asked, who's telling the story, because somebody

gotta be telling the story. It got to be the guy that's that's uh in the hospital in the hospital well by, well by now he's probably not in critical because it's been true. That's true. And then and then for the begining, the guy in the arrest of them cause they got us us Marshall's arresting them. Who's telling the story has to be Michael Mitchell, the the uncle that's thirty two that was arrested on October. But they already knew the story. They knew the story before they

even who's telling the story. Maybe they have this all on camera and they haven't released the footage yet. How would they know names? Yeah, that's where I get crazy. Yeah, who who put this out there like that? And also, this did not happen in the same building that Amber Geiger killed. Um Botham John and Joshua Davis actually moved out of that building, So this happened in a whole

another building. So this actually undermines a lot of other conspiracy theorists because they say, how could this guy be selling weed in a building that the police live in. You know, he got out of it, Yeah, he got out of here, was like, so he he moved in to the Terror apartments, which is five miles from the original complex where Botham John got killed. So for everyone who's a conspiracy theorist, he did not get killed in the building where the police officer was living, in a

whole another building which I didn't know. So I still have a lot of unanswered questions. Though I don't think it's a conspiracy that the Dallas Police Department killed him, but it is a little fishy, it is a little shady. I don't know. Well the I was listen to an interview today with the attorney for um the Sean's what's what's his name, Bostam John and Joshua Brown. They had

the same attorney of the civil attorney Mills. I believe his name is and And And he even pretty much don't want to say, you know, of course he you know, of course he's not. He's got cater to this base exactly that and and and he's doing Dallas Police Department, and so he still got to make them look, you know, bad. But he's right not saying that. He's saying, hey, let's wait for judge. You're talking about s Lee Merritt. The attorney. He's asking everybody, let's wait now. He don't like that

Dallas uh PD is investigating it. He wished that another agency he's calling for actually the SHAFF or the Texas Rangers. Right, No, he said, no, not even now, he said, because their credibility will shot for something dealing with Oh, because you know that the ranger that came the court and justified everything that the lady did, So he don't like Texas Rangers. It was a black Texas Ranger that came to testify a matter of fact that even the judge said, oh, no,

you ain't getting understand saying that. Ship No, but she's pretty much saying you ain't getting understand saying that because he was pretty much justifying everything her actions. And so anyway, he don't like the Texas Rangers. But he was saying that the sheriff because he's an elected official and we can hold him accountable if his department don't do the

right thing. I think last week you said this could be a possible self defense for the three dudes from Louisiana, and in Texas, um they respect self defense cases more than in other states. And if the narrative killed, it is the murder felony rule. I don't know if that plays like it does in California. Yeah, well, but the way the Dallas tells a story, Joshua Davis pulled his gun out first, the process of committing a felony, Well, we don't well do we We don't know that. Well,

I guess you got a pound of from marijuana. Then you got what twelve pounds upstairs? Oh you can justify now, Okay. They was coming to maam and then went bad um and And it's crazy out there with that type of ship because I just went to Philadelphia, took my mom's down there to bury one of Timmy's sons. Brother was killed selling. We guys came three of them. He banged with him, they killed him, They the weed, they bound stay in prison. I guess one of them would just

found convicted of murder. So I don't know what they're doing the other two yet, But I mean, this ship happens. I mean, you gotta cash out there trying to buy drugs and do ship to come up take from the next man. I'm the better man, you know what I'm saying. And it ship don't work out that way all the time, you know what I'm saying. So what's the likelihood that these three guys from Louisiana didn't appreciate him testifying regardless

of it was a police officer. No, they didn't. They I wouldn't drive away out there to go, oh, you're testifying against the police. I was just now they could. I would like to know their history. That's why always say the phone records to tell it, because you know, you know, to see how long they've been dealing with

each other. I would like to know that, because I mean, I had dudes when I was doing that part of the business that my first one or two interactions with them would be in public places or you know, it would have been a different interaction than somebody that I dealt with. Some of these people are thirsty. You you uh you. I used to call myself a rolling Brinks truck.

You have six eight pounds, that's this your your ship at your prices three thousand dollars a pound, but by time they break it down ten dollars a ground four four hundred forty eight of them times ten. I actually had a good friend that was killed in two thousand eleven over maybe four or five pounds of weed um right here in Los Angeles. A lot of friends that got robbed. That's the history of time, man, history of times. They started out with taking shoes, boots and leather jackets.

Now you got drugs in and play. Everybody wants the drugs. Everybody doing the drugs show. That's the best thing to be in right now, you know what I'm saying. But like I was saying, so what a way was doing this thing? That's the way he was living. That's everybody that man, you see. It should't nullify his his testimony against Amber Geiger, even though I'm sure she's gonna try to to use the situation and her benefit on an appeal or something. You know what, she's happy as a

woman in the world. Yeah, happy is one. And guess what else he is going at about the sport work Texas ship because we don't stop talking about her now, Yeah, because not right now, We're about to start talking about Officer Aaron Dean, who was charged with the murder of this beautiful woman, a Tatiana Jefferson, who was just babysitting her nephew in her own home and got gunned down almost identically the way Bothan John got gunned down. All right,

let me let me defend. But the officers were actually on duty. These are on duty officers. The tactics of why they went the way they did. What I mean by that lights on in the house two am, two a m. In the morning, which I know we on the West Coast a little different than people on these coasts. They stay up a little later. Okay, so yeah, so and door open. I might have creeped them, been walking around the house too. That's all I'm gonna depend on air other than that, this is a scary ass. What

you always say about police officers. The motherfucker they probably was getting beat up in high school, in school that had no business being a police officer. But it's it's being not just scared, but it's scared of black people. He's scary. People are scared of black people in your own home, mind and your own business. A woman they ain't. He was just a scary ass motherfucker and was scared the same thing, except she was off duty. This officer was on duty. Yeah. You know, I still used the

word mistake, you know, mistaken. No, no, no, no no with the first one. The first one. Just motherfucker's as most scary as motherucker in America to me for shooting them scary, Why why he couldn't have have that mindset that Man, when I get my chance to kill the nigga, I'm gonna kill it. Hey, why didn't have that mindset? As as they You got police, I don't want to believe. I'm gonna say this. You got law enforcements. I've been on this. Motherfucker's so deep. Just lost his job because

they found KKK papers in his house. You got police officers I'm talking about. Go just go on my post. Just beating people just I mean, I mean, they do what they want to do because they think they can get away with it. Nine times out of ten they does how many? How many officers in the last let's say, last four years has been convicted of murder? Very few? Not more than what it used to be happening. Would you say that, Yeah, but it's still such a low number.

You gotta motherfucker. Motherfucker gotta his own show podcast talking about niggas. Man, I'm telling you, and and and the coldest thing about this ship there to me is they showing us how they feel about us, and we ain't waking up to it, and we still letting them do it. And that's why I say everybody that's watching this ship, everybody that's looking at this ship. And and and this was this judge here was on his head, was on his head. But we got people that's working for us

that are against us. The eyes are against us more than once, more than twice. And and it's ridiculous. How look how they just beat this dude, seventeen year old kid. Then you got one where the police go to the school and I'm talking about just bam fire on a kid. Then you got a white boy would have would have goddamn stick in his hand trying to hit the police, trying to do it. They have to pull out their gun. They got sticks out. I mentioned that on a previous episode.

How many times have we seen white folks acting crazy in front of the police and they don't do anything

to them exactly, you know. So I'm I'm I'm just saying, let me just say this point out, this one point that I don't like in the recent shoot the shootings, and even if it was a kid Jason Jas, but it's the last three shootings really because with Mike Brown and all of them, they were people that will say, okay, they he just robbed the liquor store, cigarettes and the other one selling cigarettes and fighting and resisted and all of that that I think I defended. But the last

two people, um, they were good people. They were the type of people that we're supposed to be, you know what I mean. This lady graduated from Xavier College biology major. Um at home babysitting her nephew and her and taking care of her sig mom. Just starting to be bad now that we are taking the bad people. Yeah, that's good, Deputy al Dama. He's the one that killed the guy from uh Cedar Block Piru. Yeah, and they just want a judgment. By the way, I actually mentioned that gave

me about three three episodes ago. I had mentioned that the family just wanted judgment. And the shooting that he was responsible for, shot and unarmed god brother and uh he said he had a gun, but once they got to his body there was no weapon. But the way he talked, I understand you have any ill will towards black people. He couldn't even answer that ship and then he said yes, finally said yes he does. He shouldn't be a police officer. He just don't like black people.

I mean you can yeah, But when they took up that what James is talking about is a videotape deposition that the attorneys for the family had with the police that killed him. They had they had a break during the deposition and he came back and said that he didn't understand the questions, but he did say he had ill will towards black people. But then he cleaned it up.

Top of that, he got the CPT tat on his body, which other members of the come to police department hash so they are clear from com shared my bag, my bag. I mean that, but he has he has the skull tattoos. And for anyone who's in just in that video that a lot of different stations do that for their station, Pride or whatever. It's mostly gang cops that do that, though it's always gag cops. But that's Deputy Samuel Adama

that James is talking about. So this is what I'm saying, And you can go to l A Times and watch like the whole video. It's actually uh and he should be in jail during time because in his mind he said he they feared for his life. He thought he had a gun and a case over a simple as that he don't like black people. Now, black people need to take heed to this ship like this lady here. Man, if the police scared, and you can understand why they're scared.

They're in a different environment opposed to their homes. They're coming to the to the city. Yeah, they don't supposed to be there. If they're that's scared. But the only way they identified is when they see black people. We're afraid. Man at that city is gonna be for word, Texas about to change their name though, because their police chief and mayor laid they didn't waste any time. They didn't waste any time for five million dollars, it's gonna be

at least a twenty million dollar million. I looked it up. I left all the papers for you. That's that's all they for the five million and this ship. They didn't even take him, uh five minutes, three minutes to write to sign off on it five million. The attorney ever, if that's the exact worst attorney ever he needed his asking. He ain't did that. Trust me, he ain't signed off for no five million dollars. Now it takes much longer

for it. You can have a settlement. But trust me, he no, I mean, I wouldn't even I wouldn't even go for that. Like, this is a lady that was playing on going that could have been a pharmacist and was planned on going to be a doctor. She graduated from a college and had a biology degree and her future was to be a doctor. There her life expectancy and the earnings that is expected for her a year old career lady was way more than five million dollars,

way more. I was surprised at how quick they laid them. They laid the city out, They dropped a gauntlet quickly. They were going to cop was had happened on Saturday and was fired by Monday. Now he he actually resigned before firing. She said, you're gonna fire. Yeah, but does he lose the ability to use the funds that officers can use for defending themselves in criminal cases? He used the funds to build out of jail. Yes, she did well. He did out looking up under the police something the

police union did. Yeah, I don't believe that. It was thirty dollars. Bill was three thousand. I thought it was two hundred thousand. But now, what's your name? He resigned from the police unions. Aaron Dean. Aaron Dean, Now they did a big press conference. They they they laid him out. They're trying to, I guess, be transparent to the community because they don't want to see I guess the riot. And this is a new police chief. Um, he's an

interroom he had. He's not even the uh, he's not even a full time police He was like the nicest police chief I've ever heard give a press conference. Yeah before worth I mean, I mean, the the mayor real talk that that that that chief that did that. I took my head join because he was calm. But you can tell he what's so sincere about this situation? I mean, if anybody listen to it, could you not tell that it kind of kicked them off something. I mean to

have that that we know because the heat turned. I mean I never seen a city go against someone that quick without a full investigation. Yeah, it was pretty quick. I think it was quicker than Ambers. Maybe it's something that I mean quicker in the history. This ship happens Saturday night, Monday morning. They were ready to fire this morning, well Monday five o'clock and he was arrested Monday, Monday night. And this is us having this conversation on the outside.

I always try to think, what would that, what would it be like, or what was it that that made these people feel this way. That motherfucker said something or ship or something or wunderbol and somebody didn't like it. And and if you don't do nothing, body I will. And they would have made the stationed a whole lot of worship because hey, he only one of the things that they said that they fired him partly one he never identified himself as a police officer when he went

into a Tatiana Jefferson's home. And that's bullshit. You don't have you can you can fear for your life and saying that they that she picked up the gun. And I'm not saying this happened. I'm just trying to say. I'm not saying this happened. I'm just saying that's how they know pretty police just because um somebody, somebody turned and point the gun at you. I'm not saying this happened once again, But you don't have to holler foolice beliefs and did shoot. The motherfucker turned and got the

gun and there was a wellness check. They they didn't even enter a home. That's the major problem is he shot from outside through a window with the door open already. Well, all of that costs concerns two am, two am in the morning, lights on in the whole house, and um, door open. Those three things will cause you to not

just walking on the door. Hey, anybody home? No, no, no, no. Every time I say that, I've seen the police announce yourself and then you would take some suspicious activity going on with those those things and are going or even in the backyard police officers. Whoo woo, woo, woo woo. You gotta flash light now that ship. I mean, I'm sure you had all that going. I think you had a slash light. Yeah, you have to. I'm not gonna set up here and trying to justify the shooting. Um,

you gotta identify yourself though, Yeah, I appreciate you both identify. Yeah, not accident. Totally difficult. Look you said about the shooting because he didn't identify itself before he did the shooting. Um, that's before worst is making a big deal about the city saying he never identified himself and that was at a policy. We're talked about the approach of the house. The house they covered, they asked for something he did

and also this was called on bodycam footage. What if there was no body cam, would they have tried to cover this up? Now they have taken her gun and put it in her hand. It has been known for him to cover it up. What we if we didn't have the phone, we will be a whole lot worship than where we are today. Yeah, and you didn't say that. So with the phone they can't do what they would

normally do. But in this situation, a cell phone would not have helped at all because you didn't need to be Yeah, the body cam their own camera in this situation, if they didn't have this ship and they you think they would have had a body cam. Now why use it? Well, every every day that's come back. Yeah, because a lot of people make false complaints against the police and then the police can say it our only start to tape here like that. Remember that actors from Django, the movie Django,

I think she made a bunch of Trump. They proved that. Yeah, because he actually check this out. He audioed his interaction with that actress. But the cops got reprimanded because it was not official. You're not supposed to audio the people out in the field. But it saved him because that actress was lying about the interaction she had with that cops. So now they got bodycam, they can't lie. But now it's gonna show all of their like their criminal behavior.

Walker straight line too, Well, it didn't help, It didn't. It didn't make Aaron Dean Walker straight line. He had bodycam footage on scary. I don't even want to talk about you know, he needs to be I bet you once they do his background in the academy, How are you scared? And you're not even in the house at the academy. Knew that he was a little bit Well, you know, you know the scary cops and which ones that you know, who who you don't want to ride and who you want to ride with, you know, just

like you know the brutal, you know the thieves. You know. You know, you learn your cops and you've only been on a year, year and a half, but they knew. So when you was a police officer, you knew who was who. You knew who was the bad one and who ain't right and who was good? You did Wow, I mean, how do that make you feel? Being around people like that? Well, you know, one day they actually gonna get caught. We doesn't set up concert was smoking,

was still in cocaine from niggas that were smoking. I know that too. We don't have all time, we were gonna have conflict. Got caught line in police reports. Um cops taking niggas guys finally getting that pretty good. Get your ass out of here. You know they're keeping that pistol. We don't know that part. They could have booked it. It never done. Why would they let you go somehing in their trunks. I didn't know that. I've never seen nobody do that. Well, but I'm not saying it didn't happen,

but I've never seen experience that. Raphael Peresidino dirt and playing the gun. I didn't know them. I worked the company they work. There is your error, though we got the nineties excepting ship happening to us. But this is my thing, and I thought about it all week. When the fund is we mad at the police. We were doing this ship to ourselves. Why do you think they're doing it? I ain't gonna say they an't. They're killing because we kill each other, but they don't give a fuck. Yeah,

they're doing it. We just sold our souls to the motherfucking devil. We're killing each other on the daily, So how do we how do we get your them? No, no, don't just know. I'm just saying, we gotta stop hurting each other and then start paying attention to these motherfucker's. Just we gotta understand a mistake from from the racist part and all of that. You know, the KKK initiations and all of that that you don't want to believe. We gotta we gotta deal with that. I'm just glad

we're moving forward. I think uh Kaepernick and this awareness and social media is helping it. And I think cops gonna just after the Rodney King Coss learned that they couldn't be putting the baton on people. Why not? They're still doing it. They don't do it as often as they were doing it. I don't know how did they do it. I don't look for but trust me, it was a lot of things going on, and I think we're getting better and that's the bottom line. Well, understand

what James was saying. We gotta stop shooting each other out here on these streets. We had about I don't know, two hundred and eighty murders in Los Angeles last year and we get well one cop killing, two cop killings a year in l A. Nationwide, there's there's a few dozen nationwide. Why is uh the people are it's protesting majorly and um for what is the dullas what? And um and the cops and and and the management know

they did everything that they're supposed to do. I mean, I have never seen a copy fire that quick arrested

that way. I think they're protesting against the culture of policing, not necessarily has it been a history and for word, I don't know you you y'all didn't hear the guy that was talking right to preach your dude, Yeah, there's some big comforence going on where they're trying to get an oversight and you know, basically what they said is they just tied at the police patrolling the way they do, and that this is our city. Y'all work for us. But y'all come and y'all do what y'all feel y'all

want to do to us. We're tired of that. We're not gonna allow this to happen no more. You need something arount some coffee? Yeah, because okay, because of this shooting, this ain't going to just go by. He gets put in jail. And then if y'all think this is gonna go away, this ain't going away. Training needs to be better. Yeah, so I get where you're coming from. And and we all need to get better. Every black mothercker they listened to crones, our arm whomever out there trying to split

that word. We need to We need to quit, man, these guys needed to quit. And I want to give shuts out to those cats that's doing the gang truths and all that ship. Man. Without that, we are lost. I hope that ship worked and and and these guys get the picture. We got more meetings coming. There's a meeting tomorrow with the east Side Bloods and Crips. They do that every other Thursday, and then every Friday of the West Side Bloods and Inglewood Bloods have a meeting.

So it's progressing. And it's progressing for sure. It looked like it's going somewhere. Absolutely is, And and every meeting and gets bigger and bigger. The first meeting, which I didn't attend, had eight people. The last meeting that the east Side had was I counted people in that room. So there's more people jumping on board are just and the and the and the more of the mirror. But you need platforms like this and other people to really be out there speaking on it. And for man, this

is real serious. This is serious ship. All right. Well, let's wrap it up on that note. We'll we'll we'll be keeping our eye on this Aaron Dean trial, which should be coming up soon. You know, it's interesting they never give offer deals two cops that are charged with some sort of killing. It always goes to a trial. You know. They don't offer deals in these cases should

go through good ones that batter. They should go through uh some type of checking balance system or some type of so people can say, well, they killed that under the rug. They need to come up with the why do that when we got when? When I could have killed three people? And but if I give up this motherfucker because he was the ring leader, you will let me go for these three murders a r K. Three motherfucking people. If they really want that person, they will

give you a deal. Exactly. Everybody should be accountable for their bullshit. If we gotta pay for it, then they should have to pay for it, just like us. I said the cops should have to go through the system. They should, That's what I'm saying. All right, Well, thank you everyone for listening to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles, episode twenty nine. I want to just make sure that you guys visit The Gangster Chronicles podcast dot com to get your tickets to our first live show that will

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