Phone Check

Gangster Chronicles. My name is Alex Alonso. You meet may be aware of my platform, Street Gangs dot Com a k a. Street TV, where I interview gang members, former and current hip hop artists, rappers, authors, entertainers and other influencers. And I'm hearing my two co hosts and Big and we got Big James coming to us all the way from down Under in Australia and Reggie Right Juniors right here next to me. And I want to also remind you guys to check out Reggie Right Junior on Bomb

First b O m B one st. He does a live show every Tuesday at seven pm Pacific Standard time. And don't forget to go out there and get James is Um death Row t shirts which are available through the Bomb First Patreon page. Right, yep James and give him that number where they can hit you up hit you up to order him, because James got a phone number now that he wants people to call him in and get a hold to him. H nine O nine eight zero zero six four oh four. Hit me up.

You you tell me what you want and I have it out for you the next day and you would get it the next day two days after that. So hit me up, let me know what size for color. And I also got other other designs in the making, so be waiting for that. And uh, you'll see what I got going on. And and just all your shirts.

And I appreciate everybody that ordered the shirt. The number is nine O nine eight zero zero six four and tell him the amount and most of the money going to Well the Manage thirty five bucks the Church of all the all the proceeds is going to all the grand kids that that you know of all these guys that lost their lives and the guys that don't have grandchildren are kids. We're gonna donate to a charity. So either way, somebody is getting something from these guys. So

order your T shirts and let's keep it going. And he also put in five dollars aside for marrying ship night for those of you that, uh, you know, I want to support him and help him out. And is that number also linked to your PayPal James, Yes, directly to the papal. Just just call that number. A lot of people have been using it so far, and those guys that honestly tell you they got their church who right away, and I want to keep it going that way. I want to keep it going to bomb first so

I don't get backed up with the shows. And I want to also let everybody in Australia know that, uh, Nick Noonan Newton Boyd Promotions Promotions. If you hit us up on the Facebook page Newton Boyd Promotions, you can actually put your orders in there to the our Australian listeners out there and we can get the shirts distributed

through Australia. Okay, that sounds great. Um. I just want to remind everybody this is episode eighteen and if you're listening on iTunes, please make sure you leave us a rating and a review so we can continue bringing this amazing show to you from the United States slash Australia and give us a five star rating if you love the show, and you can also write a review that

includes questions topics for future episodes. And for those you who are not listening on iTunes, please check us out on Google Play that's for you Samsung and Android users, and Spotify including radio dot com. So before we start the show, I wanna listen to what James has to say about his trip so far and what's been going on out there in Australia. James, Oh, Man, it's it's been lovely, uh since I stepped off the plane. Man, the hospitality, the the love I've been getting from these

people in Australia. Man, it's just off the chain. Man, It's unbelievable. Um, it's not a day. Every day I've been here, I haven't had to spend a time with my money. You know, these guys, you know, I meet him and and I come here with American money and these guys giving me cash out, they pocket One guy gave me a hundred bucks of his money. You know what I'm saying. So I can just you know, do me and uh everything. You know, I've just been appreciating,

you know, the shows. You know, I got people crying out here, you know what I'm saying, listening and send that they loved, uh, the flat interviews and man, it's just been it's just been wonderful. Man. I wish I would have came down there with you. Oh, Man, I wish I wish everybody can experience Australia. Australia is the place to go, man. And and I had no clue, and man, I you know, it's I'm just glad that that I was chosen to come down here and and

and experienced this. You know, every show has been lovely. Man. My first show we so fifty five shirts. The next show were so thirty five. So it's it's just been lovely. Man. You know, I was only charging out then he ran out, then I ran out, and and you know it's so crazy because every show, Man, you know, I ain't never in my life signed autographs. Man, I ain't never in my life had people standing in line just to shake my hand and new mom James, you know what I'm saying.

And it was it's a totally different experience from from where I'm from to be here in Australia and just get that love from everybody all the way around. How they're treating grat hating out there, beautiful, beautiful, pretty much the same experience. Man. We through this whole tour. Man, everybody has been treating us like man. I never felt like a king, and I can use that word loosely. Man. They it's just too much love about here, you know. And you know it's crazy because you know, they don't

have guns out here. They they drink and fight. But I haven't seen no animosity. And you see, I haven't seen these people arguing. Uh. One guy last night in the show, Uh, we sat out and talking. He wrapped his ass off of me about about fifteen minutes and then the comings side the show and he just loud. So he got up and walked to wind. They took him outside with no problem. But he was just being cool and and you know, he was drinking, So I

was cool with that. Um, I've been following you on Instagram and I've seen you've been drinking on beer all of shoes. What's up with that? What's up with that? And that night, I forget what they call that. That's cool a shoe the shoeing, and they said, I say, okay, let's do it shooting. I ain't knowing what the hell they're talking about. They come back with my beer and they had their beer and they started then listen their shoes, say what they do with it? He said, this is

the shoe he made. I'm not going to drink out my damn. You know how long I've been walking around me. But man, this man, I I told him, Man, I'm pumping up Australia one hunter. Man. I would love to come back here, you and the air, the beaches. Man. If y'all see the pictures I post. Man, it's so beautiful at him man and man, I am fortunate to see it and tell everybody back there. You know, man, the way these people get along with each other. Man

while we came, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, So, so those of y'all want to see some pictures before James get back. He eve been real, um even really active on his Instagram page, were posting and our boy Nick None uh he also been posting on his Instagram page and a shout out to him. He's the one that made it happen for my boy James and Greg Hatings and put it together on None Productions. Um, he's here as well, and we're gonna let him chime in

and promote his Instagram page James Instagram page. And then for those of you that's on YouTube. Y'all go to bomb first and we just put up a little clipp it like a seven minute clipping showing y'all, uh the vineyard and some of the hatties and all of that that's been hanging around James. So Nick, we'll tell us James and your Instagram peace or people can check in on that. Yeah, So A boy Promotions. The Night with Great Katie is the is the Instagram page and also

the Facebook page. But I just want to give a big shout out to Alex Alonso and yourself for having me on the show back in May. You're one of the first guys that went out of your way to put me on your platform, not only to talk about this show for the American people, but also on a worldwide We've done a very um big job out here to really promote you guys your podcast. But your podcast is fantastic and as James with a Green last night, we had people from the audience, didn't we James that

we're talking about the podcast. They love it. Um, you know, I mean, anything that I can do in the future to support this fantastic podcast, I'm going to do it for you and Alex and obviously street TV and anything because it's a bright it's a great community movement and it can be broken off from the soa many white and with night short at every show that we're really given up to Alex along time when The Gangster Chronicles

poadcast with Vicky Virginia and James McDonald. Yeah, I've had a lot of those guys know that they want to know the culture and the game culture to go to the street g V Alex. So you might be getting Australia's tuning in because they want to hear the story. They want to hear our story on how we we survived and and the ship that we go to. So I told him about Joe Joe Show and they was like, Okay, we definitely gotta go and see because man, definitely what's

going on in our world. They are so intrigued appreciate that I had. I had people crying, um you know that saw the Black the Black interviews, and man, it kind of called me off going and I was overwhelmed that you know, these people are really in tune to you know, how we live and they want to know the studies about what's going on and and you know, how do we survive that on the daily when they don't have to go through what we go through, you know, every day. So man, it was, it was man, it was,

it was beautiful. I wish I was here. Man. Yeah, I heard you had a love hate relationship going on out there. Tell us a little bit about that. God damn ch it's one lady in the show. She uh. We were taking questions and she had a question, so she she pretty much raised her hand when somebody else was going there. But I told her, go ahead, answer your question. And the first thing she said, Okay, you're

a coup and you're a fucking nigger. Oh the crowd went crazy like wow, did she really fucking say nigger? So I kind of like put the mic down and just like oh my god, and I had to take it. I had to take a step back. So I said the mike down and was walking away. I turned around and here here she'd come running out to me. So I run around the building and people laughing like I mean, I played it all like you know, it really didn't bother me, and you know, everybody started laughing when I

ran from her. So I go out and smoke a cigarette and here she comes so basically she had a she had four kids by and by an African American, well a guy from Africa, and you know, these are the things that she you know, she says, she called her son, Sir Sun was there really hyped up and and and loved the two parts Biggie studies and she said, come in, my nigga, and it was it was like wow. So when what bastically happened is UH nickname put her out. She was she was drunk and UH put her out.

And then at the end of the day, I mean, people was just amazed. I thought that I was going to really trick man. I'm straight. And you know who I blame for for that. I bring. I blame Proof and the guys from D twelve for that because they allowed Eminem to use that word. Very good point, very good point. And so people think it's susceptible. And that's just a word for some reason that people other than black. We don't even put the e r at the end. But that's that's just a word that can't be used.

I don't care how cool you are, how much you love, if you have kids, you married to a black man and all of that. That's this derogatory word for our our culture, for for whatever being a black American. So my question, my question to Nick would be, is I how is that word used or for black Australians? How do they accept that word over there? And and that was the big thing in Australia. We don't tolerate that

at all. We were very very surprised we haven't had it in our last two shows that the fact that it came out. She was just very very drunk, and it just shows you that I think that could happen anywhere in the world, Reggie, and that's something we need to work on the different cultures. And that well, it doesn't seem and I talked to James about this off record of off air. It doesn't seem like she was malict about it. I think she would happen. I learned a big lesson here man. And when she said that

I didn't have to get mad. The Australian people was the people in the audience was mad. And those people, it's like they all took up from me and said, you don't have to worry about it. We got it. And and and I just you know, I looked at the ground and when people were just standing there like really fucking mad at her. It was I ain't got the same nothing. I ain't even got to come out of character. These people handled that for me, and and and and that was my my justification. I didn't have

to say ship man. And that's what I mean when I say beautiful people. Man. You know back home, you know, it wouldn't have matter. I didn't had to react to that. Yeah, but no, they they reacted that for me. And and that showed me right there the character and and how these people really are. And it's some lovely people down there, man, and I and I just gotta stress that. And I'm man, I'm having a great time. I'm having a great time.

All right, James Loum. We're gonna get into a couple of topics here, and uh, even though you're all the way in Australia, we're gonna, you know, include you in on this conversation because we can't really do the show without you. But yeah, y'all can do the show without me. Um, y'all got y'all, got y'all here is on y'all show the Man. And I just knew y'all was gonna run with this without me. And then here we go again. You know, my brother's black home. Want to do the

show with me? We're going to together. And I love this ship, man, I love that ship. When we got the technology over here to to to connect your call into the studio, so um, thanks to the to the engineers here they were able to make it happen. And

thank the Nick for giving us that phone bill. I'm gonna let you guys continue on thank the Alexton all right now, before we get into our first topic, I just wanted to let everyone know that O. J. Simpson is at eight hundred and sixties six thousand followers on Twitter. And we've been talking about O Jay on and off for the last few episodes, but he's approaching a million guys. Yeah, I thought he would have been every by now. But has he been active? You know, he just posted something

twenty minutes ago, another video. I haven't had a chance to listen to it, but you know, he's not a serial poster, but he's definitely keeping his Twitter account active. Well, O J. If you want to, if you want to get some views right quick, only they have to do to say something about Ron Goldman and then they get up, They get up or he can just go on his daughter's podcast, which is it. Yeah, because he posts videos, So he does these selfie videos so you know it's him,

or he'll have someone holding the camera recording him. So he's actually doing videos and posting them. He just posted a video, uh, twenty two minutes ago. He gotta be you know, he gotta be a little p g because you know he's still on probation and paroles, so you know they'll they'll bring him in for if he gets too radical. Yeah, I think he should just just relax. Man. He at the point where he shouldn't even want to be on so media. Yeah, he shouldn't want to be

doing ship, seen doing ship. I think you should just don't live by the days doing him and just mindlyn business. And you know what, I guess that's the way of him, you know, just being O. J. Simpson. Well, he's still got to keep the brand alive because there is still value to the O. J. Simpson name, even though he's a quote unquote an alleged double murderer. Um, there's still a value to the O. J. Simpson name. So I'm sure as people are saying, hey, you know, be somewhat

active on social media. He's not alleged. He has been found innocent. You're correct, that's uh, but you know, that's it. That's a debate that we're probably gonna have for the rest of our lives. Is really innocent? Uh? And for the record, I believe he's guilty. Something came out recently. I didn't read it where there was some overwhelming evidence they trying to say the Sun was the suspect. Hey, my father told me that Jason was suspecting the one

back in ninety four when he got arrested. They was said that his dad, he did it with his dad. But I mean all of that, all of that, like, he got found not guilty, So everybody in the emergence, everybody at home should be like, man, Okay, he got found not guilty. So why not leave it at that, and and and and just move on. White America doesn't want to leave it alone, James, I know, because because he killed the white woman. Yeah. When the last time

we talked about the guy Zimmerman, I'm talking talking about him. Yeah, well there was no question, but he did he killed Travan Markin. You know, even Reggie just said he he thinking's guilty. What does it matter. He got found not guilty, so let's go by. Let's go by that, you know what I'm saying. But in the minds of everybody else, they're gonna say he's guilty because they truly believe he's guilty, you know what I'm saying. But but he got found not guilty in a court, in the court, so that

makes me miligant. No, it don't. He got found uh guilty, found reliable for her death? How can you be liable for somebody's definitely not guilty up to death because one is a criminal case and the other is a civil case. So they're using two different standards. Yeah, and that's a shame, I think. Of course, we all know in the criminal case you have to have a unanimous agreement with the jury. In a civil case, you just need a majority of jurors.

I thought it was nine or eight. Yeah, nine. And then also in the criminal case, the standard is beyond a reasonable doubt, and in the civil case to the standard is beyond the preponderance of evidence, which is a lower standard. So it's easier to find someone guilty and civil court than it is in criminal court is a terrible large But oh, Jay is never gonna pay that thirty three million. Oh, Jay, he ain't got the money doing.

I don't think he's got the money. But even if he did, well, he has property, but he moved his property to the state of Florida. And the state of Florida protects property. California doesn't protect your property. That's why he moved to Florida. Well, that and he can live off of hisar a month retirement from the NFL and they can't touch his retirement. They cannot touch that. And so hey, you know, you can just get him a moderate house and play golf every day. And that's what

he's doing. A good A good one, ja. But I think he you know, I'm like this, all of this ship you've been through, and you still want to be you still want to want to be in the public. Guy, I don't. I don't think you should. I mean, you know, you you did this in Vegas and you and you went to jail and you did time and in prison. Boy, so when you come home, man, wouldn't you think that that you would just lay low and kicked back and and and not want to be seen in anything or

nobody to even think of your name. Let O. J. Simpson rest And that's why I think he should have been. Well, motherfucker's mad just hearing his name. Well, only half of America is mad at here in his name. The other half doesn't care, so he has at least half support. When when when did uh blacks become half America? We onlytent you're right, but not all whites. Not all whites are against the jas A blacks and four old. But when you look at it, when you do polls on it,

it's usually fifty fifty believe he's murdered. He's guilty. In the time after that Rodney King verdict, and we were just feeling like we were black folks was getting um the raw deal or the short end of the stick. Let OLJ do that bullshit now. And he wins his trial and then he go to Vegas on some some gangs to ship. Come on, man, it's time to sit Joe last down. I like, I like oh J, but come on, man, we need to start making sense of our own ship. Well, eventually he's gonna reach that million.

He needs about a little more than about a hundred hundred thirties four thousand or a hundred thirties six thousand more followers. Hey, eight hundred thousand plus followers is not no joke though, and just a very short period. So he's probably gonna try to figure out a way to monetize his followers and and do something to benefit him financially. Well, you better put in one of his kids name. Yeah, definitely all right. So, um, let me get to one

of the first questions of this episode. Uh, the Realist, the producers the Realist. Someone wants to know, did the Realist ever put vocals on any of Tupac songs, Reggie or James? Do you know anything about the Realist? Well, I know about the Realist, but finish wise in the music that he did, I think better elaborate on, you know, on that, Uh, the Realism. The Realist for those of

y'all that don't know who that is. He was an artist on death Row at the Tupac Die Uh I got signed about ninety seven sometimes, and he has a voice that's kind of unique, that sounds uh like pox like Tupacs not not. So there's always been speculation in the community that we were allowing the Realists to uh make tracks are our add to Tupac music. He was an artist, not a producer. I wanted to correct you

on that, Alex, but he um Um. There's a couple of songs that were needed to be made radio versions that I would now uh contest to video Unconditional Love that we did to make it sound radio friendly, where we may have taken a curse word out and put in a cleaner, cleaner word, and the cleaner word would have came from the realist. Wow. Has has this ever been divulged ever before? Wow? You are giving us something that the world has never heard before. Now why has

that been hidden for so long? Is there some sort of liability to put someone else's voice in the song and represented as well? It just didn't make didn't seem authentic to the you know, the ADVIC TUPAC listener. But but all we did was uh allow it to be a clean version for a video Unconditional Love. So are there parts where he put in more than the word verse? Perhaps a word a word, a curse word was taken out and a clean word was probably put there. That

is interesting. More than one time. The only one I can remember that I can think I was Unconditional Love was the video that he appeared in. Um simulating the look like Tupac in the video. So over the years go ahead. But no, he didn't know. He didn't know him in the casino. Uh, on the casino and he heard him and he rapped for him, and he he liked him, and he uh he was you know, told us and gave the number and we eventually hooked up with him later after Tupac thew But they did meet

each other once in the casino in Vegas. So is that the reason why the Realist came to Death Row was from that meeting at the casino? Initially, Wow, that's even he just bumped into the all and said, Hey, I rapped. That happens every day and uh, but for the follow up to be now you're at Death Row hanging out, that's a huge accomplishment. Fan. Yeah, we did something that uh to talent talented artists, excuse me that

we failed. We failed their careers. To be honest, the Realist was one because other than that, he was a talented rapper and we tried to have him being like Tupac. And there was another rapper by the name of y G. D. We eventually called him top Dog and we and he sounded like Snoop Dogg. He don't want to did this song going back to Kelly when he was just in

Biggie for coming back to Kelly? And those are two talented young man that that careers got fleshed down the drain because the community or the industry wasn't ready for sounding likes. Now, did the realists ever do a demo? Did he have a demo? Did he have any recorded songs? Oh? He did several songs on Death Row, several songs on the Chronic Uh two thousand, on the Gang related soundtrack

on UM all post Tupac all post Tupac. Why why couldn't he just continue his career in the later two thousand's and just signed with someone else or he did independent artists? He did? I signed you with another rate once I left that row? What a record company called to that entertainment? What? I did some music with him? And but I think, um, he's a hell of a still a hell of u um writer and knows the music business a lot. We just unfortunately um messed up

his name by making him a sound of like. And it's something that already always regretted that we did to him. So over there, go ahead, James go ahead, But people didn't know that that Joel was using him for that. So how did they know that was using him because not know that's just one incident. But you hear his whole album or his whole songs that he did, um, people didn't like that. It's not I mean he did complete songs that um some people would think it was

Tupac and that wasn't deliberate. He just that's just how that. Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't it delivered it a deliberate act. And there was a guy from Compton that actually sounded his name was black. He sounded just like Biggie. Remember this rapper name Black wasn't black. It was sounded just like wasn't he kind of he got a little chance. He did a single. I believe he had something to come out. Yeah, I don't think his name was blacked up and I knew he was talking about so the realists.

Never has done interviews where he revealed, oh yeah, I replaced a couple of curse words on a POC song before he stayed quiet over the years. Yeah, why's why is that? He? I mean, we told you not to talk about it, and now I'm up here and running my big mouth and talked about it. Well, I thought, hey, whoever asked this question? I wish I saved the guy's name. I guess he was onto something asking if the realists

ever put vocals on a POC song vocals a word? Well, if you hear that he put a word, then you're thinking maybe there's more than Why would I tell you for that? I would have kept denying it. Okay, So now if the realist wants to come out and talk on, and he can talk on and I guess it's been what twenty plus years? Anyway, let's move on. Let's move on.

Now he's helping your nephew right now, writing in the studio with him helping him do some stuff and which one little Timmy Roue Yeah, okay, and he actually did a video with him moving there by right correct. Very talented, you mean, he just he's not old. He's forty and that's senior citizen. But the boy looked with his body is I mean, he still looked good, you know, But yeah, I mean he have to be a mentor. Now, how many over forty rappers could actually put out a hit?

How many has are? How many could how many haven't could? We could put name them on one? Yeah, jay Z's one. Maybe ice Cube was another. But yep, that's true. But you said put out one hit recently. I think method Man could put out a hit. That's four. I don't think so. I think l L was done. I've heard his last album. There was nothing on that album. M can get off. D X is done. He just did a show. I saw it with someone and that was over at the game. And when the game was that

at Long Beach? Now, so what were they were outside? They did a show on the same on the on the boat there in Long Beach. That was outside, Okay, l A confidential. Yeah, so yeah, I think if you're forty and over, it's it's pretty much a rap your your rap careers. DRE probably we can put out a hit, but he's probably not as hungry as he used to be because of all those other business investments he's doing. Maybe Eminem, I think Eminem's over Snoop might be able

to put out a hit again. So yeah, it's very few rappers over forty. This is a this is a young man game. To keep it real, you know, eighteen eighteen to thirty and everyone else is lucky if they can still do it all right. But another question. A producer named Johnny J. Who I think he died in the custody of the l A County Share several years ago, right in the county jail. He died, but he was a producer, died by way of committing suicide. Yes, at

least that's the story. But someone asked if Johnny J produced most of pop song So, if you take all the Parks catalog from the death Row period, which is the Double C D and like a few other songs, which producer worked with Park the most on the death Row period, because I don't know all the thug life and me against the Yeah, I don't know what producers were were around it. I know it's one name assassin

and so. But Johnny Day get credit for doing a lot of the work because he was like Pars every day, a producer that was always there. But the only reason most of those songs that we heard by Johnny J would have never came came out. They were really studio garbage. Most of those songs that y'all hearing on better days until the end of the time and whatever the other post albums were h were a lot of songs that two podcasts pretty much scrapped, wasn't going to use and

uh so these unreleased songs that someone like Cats might own. No, I'm just kidding. That was a good one. And just what whatever happened to all the all the like the death ro chair and all of the ship that was in the office, whatever happened to that stuff? James, don't watch TV. It's a it's a show called it's a show called storage War. He lost it in auction, man, you know that? And there goes the show. All the people that like, oh yeah, she got a hundred million

dollars stashed away. Okay, he would have took out five hundred dollars thousands of of that and wouldn't paid the storage bill. That that was the case, so that the people storage were actually know what they had. Yeah, because it was death row and that when they did the auction. I don't think pants that was that after. I think that was after they purchased. I think yeah after after. Yeah, the only thing that was really work something was jacket

and I'm talking about the chair and all that. Yeah, I mean you had plaids, you had unreleased you had unreleased music in there. A couple of people said, you know and are reported, Yeah, contracts, they there's some paperwork over somebody over there got some gold and don't realize what they have exactly. Yeah, I just I just looked at Johnny J. And he actually did work on a lot of pop stuff pre death Row as well. So it might be true that Johnny J worked with POC

on more songs than any other producer. Maybe someone out there can do the research on that ghost song by songs. Like I said, he was there every day, even the ones, even if Das was in their producing on him, Johnny J. Was right there sitting there and William he was there every day. James, did you know Johnny Jay? No, No, I didn't. Uh, Like I told you, that wasn't my side of the world. He was an event. He was

what you call a staff e venner. After like ninety four ninety he was just cold red and I mean James and his crew showed up so he could be a cold blue knew him. Oh yeah, that James left. I came in. I think James ran after I came in. He was like, oh no, I came rob this motherfucker's I gotta go. You know what I say, And I still say the same thing because I honestly chold you I felt about that, and you know I believe that should run you in there to to uh Tom come

the home boys down on. You know, these cats can't get ready. So you know, I just it was just a mixture of things. And my thing was, you know, you've been there and neckbone been there? How is neck bone gonna feel that you're there? And then y'all been into an oltercation? But man, can't nobody tell me I don't. I don't just I don't love Reggie Right. I don't love Reggie Right in his family. You know what I'm saying. And I never said nothing out of line. Now I

couldn't say to you personally. Everything I've said, I've repeated it. And and you know, even though me and neck bones don't talk, I'm there. You know I took up. I took up for that because and you know what, let me just say this, Neckbone came. I was around probably a year when Neron got all the jil and came back. You do you know to this day, me and neck Bone have never had a bad word said towards each other.

It was always respectful. He was always cool, you know, saying I said over there in the corner talking to him a lot or anything like that. But he and I have never had a bad bad word. I mean, we haven't been in the swimming pool, playing basketball at together and stuff like that, you know, so we we were able to interact and he kept the professional and

um and chuck it to the side. That's that's that's what I'm talking about, so you know, but it was just, you know, I it pitched me off because I knew sigenda, you know what I'm saying, and I knew the reason why you know what I'm saying, so that I mean, it is what it is. I mean, it's all over now. I'm glad you would and and neck Bone never got into it because if that would have ever happened. Sure, I told you so what I'm saying, And that was just that was just my concern for for both parties.

You know, neck bonus the homeboard. But you guys is like family, you know what I'm saying, And uh, it just mixed when you when when you came in, it just didn't mix. But I mean y'all worked it out. And and and everybody was happy. I was the one that you know, active prematurity and said this, I'm not gonna do that. You know when when when all those other guys came and then me and sure wasn't saying out of eye and and my old thing is I can sit on the side kicking in the hood and

do my thing and let me ride in. That's all about to say. Most people don't know that that that James used to run. Uh. He used to run neck Um Let Me Ride, which was an automobile shop that Shill had opened and and and was trying to have for the fixed low riders and make low riders over on Rose friends and low beat right off Crosser Rose Frands don't beat that actually that Pat Johnson used to own.

But anyway, uh, and so James was running that car shop and until something stupid one of the homies told on something that the police came and raided it and found some stolen parts or something of stolen engine up. The motherfucker's was hated. Just tell the truth. Well you did, you did? Public Dr dret three Chevy from from I had it, I wouldn't give it it back. And then that was just that they had the opportunity to shoot.

Knewhere I lived, and and Drey was in the hood with him frequently, and they could have came and got the mother. What they didn't. Dre wouldn't get into that. What did you end up doing with that car, James? Well, he stripped it down, stripped it down to the to the frame. When when I felt I was tired of it, and I told George them they come get it. And they came and got it. They brought some tires and

roll them up forgot my yard. I help, I helped James steal that car in a police car, not knowing James was steal in that car on Bradfield right still in that car, and he broke down, and he broke down from from the car. Did you say I was still? I took it. Still, it took it. You took it. Whatever happened with the car, What happened with the car? It has started running hot. So Dre now masked me without taking and put it in my yard. Oh, I

put it in my yard. But when he came to get the car already had somebody working on it fit this and I was driving the car. Now I want to check. She didn't want to give a check. You don't want to give me a check. You ain't getting this motherfucker for changing my thurm and stad changing the fu. He the manager of a goddamn uh. He's the manager of the car shot. So you had the low Rider shop at this time, right, James, and check and you probably changed the thermostat on that low ride and what's

the thermostat cast back then? Like six dollars stas were. I think he was the manager, not the owner of the shop. So you know what he did. He built and got dog on the parts to to the company. And still but James Lyne, he ain't telling the truth of that. I remember pushing James in that car on Bradfield and the police car all the way off. That did happen, but that's when I got the car from them and and it overheated again. And that's when you

will help me get it to the house. But that was good looking out I ain't I know, I know, but but let me just clear, Friday, I did not know the business at that time. I wasn't even working at death for I don't think at that time. I don't just just James. Then these were. These were my tractic of getting paid multiple times. But one thing like the Snoop Dogg trial, you know, I mean maybe maybe a thirty grand just just doing it, you know, it's trial.

Should think I got fifth Green motherfucker's and I'm paying them a hundred dollars a day and I'm making two hundred dollars a day. So it ended up every time I came to get a check for it, I mean I put I put money in my pocket. That was my way of getting with him, and didn't didn't have to deal with and you know what in fairness to show back then he didn't even look at any voices or nothing. He didn't care. You just get the check that nig didn't even care. David Carroll would be the

one looking at the boys like what the fuck? So what was what was Drake's reaction James when he found out you stripped down the low Loo When we was all in the in the alley of uh at my mom's house and then I was steading right next to each other and he asked me, how did I like the car? Oh man, it's cool and dry. Ain't give a funk about that goddam car. Man, what money. Yeah, the car that he's talking about was the one that was in the video. Uh it was in the video thing,

nothing but nothing but the thing that's the one with Snoop. Yeah. Well r was sitting in there holding Marcel drean Um, Mr Lan, you should have kept you should have kept that car, James. We should have kept a lot of ship there. If we would have known what I mean, I would have been a picture taking motherfucker's with the niggas. I would have been taking them with strippers and everything

if I knew him. You know what what was so crazy about that is, you know everybody talking about me taking that car and doing what I did with it, but you can't name it's probably only three more buckers that was in that office that wasn't spilling c these uh flat and all of them ship. Everybody was taking me on the other side of in the neighborhood. Yeah, I had an incident with this nigga lived dog and and and should assistance centric. Well, let me say this,

the motherfucker's We've had a bunch of CDs. I went to Interscope and took all our music from Interscope. At the end of the deal. I mean boxes of mcavelly and Tupac, you know, the motherfuckers going upstairs. I didn't trust the Centric because I was never really in office with the key because I had them all locked up.

They were going up to the conference swap meet taking boxes of maccabelly's and All Eyes on Me and Snoop Dogg albums and stuff like that up to the conference wap meets in different swap means, selling the mothers for like ten dollars of the unit boxes of UH and splitting the money, making some side money. Yeah. Man. So that that was the blue low Rider that Dre had, right, James, the black the convertible. Yeah, yeah, man, I'm looking at it right now on the video. That was a beautiful car.

Oh man. You should have seen me hitting the switches in the motherfuckers and bitches running that card like I was a selayer for something. Man that if you still had that car, James, it would probably be worth about a hundred thousand dollars because it was Dre's. D probably would pay more than that for it. Now, yeah, but you wouldn't have it. You wouldn't have a pink slip for it. Though I didn't Alex. I mean you couldn't

do anything, like you couldn't sell a car with that. Yes, I could down to lean on that and uh okay, well I didn't wanna end um talking about Johnny J. I just want to finalize he committed suicide in two thousand and eight, and I was gonna ask where any of you guys kind of surprised, especially you read you knew him that this guy I guess committed suicide when he was in jail wasn't known as a criminal. He wasn't as the Doug good dude Loki. I mean he was.

He was a Mexican brother. I mean, you know, Mexican guy that was cool married to a black chick. This chick, man with the type, was one of those type of chicks that will come around with her brawl and you know, titty hanging out and all of that. Real permissive, provocative, provocative, all of that, but there with him every session like right and die. You know. Now, after he committed suicide, I talked to the realist because the realists have a

relationship with her and all of that. He says, she walked around, she's very religious now, she's very conservative, walk around with a bunch of clothes on and just change their life. So it was something going on in their lives that where they felt they needed a change. And yeah, I don't know what what what got into Johnny Jay. You know, I'm sure the conspiractions out there. Oh yeah, he was killed. He was killed. You know, you know,

guys like you, the police do everything wrong. Well, when ever someone commits suicide in custody, it certainly should certain questions should be asked. I don't know if there was an investigation. I mean, if a guy, the guy wasn't known to be a criminal, wasn't a thug, mental and he must have had something going on perhaps so, Um, she's definitely mental. Now, that's why she had a bunch of songs and stuff. She won't even release the new things.

People don't came with at her, offering her all type of money and she's just like, since you knew Johnny, did he ever exhibit anything that would make you think, Okay, I'm not surprised he committed suicide. No, but but Johnny J did leave us and not really be around us nineties seven ninety, you know, actually part of the park. Nine. Um, he has stopped being around because he wouldn't sign a publishing deal and so he was he was kicked to

the current as well. Okay, and and James, you mentioned, um, you haven't spoke to the neckbone. I was wondering if you could elaborate a little bit on what what kind of falling out did you guys have, what kind of well, you know, the neck bone and everybody else in the neighborhood. I felt that, you know, they turned their backs when when she got big with the neighborhood with you know, with a bunch of your death and all that. But was surprising to me, man, since I've been out here.

My sister something a I guess. Neck Bone was on his spacebook and he expressed how he felled and he was actually in jail went out to and I didn't know that. And I just thought they just everybody just fell on the face and earth and and and I truly I hated everybody thinking that. Okay, man, I've I've been there for everybody. If you got shot in the hood and all those guys know, Mom James had to go out there and shoot at these motherfucker's because you

can't through the hood. Mom, James had to feel like you can't ride through here and and and nothing that happened to you. So anyway, I plead this this post Facebook post, right, yeah, yeah, I lead this post that he that he posted, Man, and it was like, man, can you paraphrases for us? Uh my, you know my phone don't work out. I mean, no, you don't gotta read it off your phone. I'm just saying, can you just give us the gist of what he posted? He posted,

you know, the paint he felt with Budget's sad. You know that the the police, theos came to him on the yard six d sevent d and told him that they had bad news. This is how he fouled out. Budget was killed and they told him your brother passed and he was taking my brother and he told him Budget was killed and actually that they had to put him in a hole. He said no, but he wind up going to the whole and he felt that, you know, he had to take his anger out on something. So

he just tripped on the grips on the yard. And man, I just like he went through what I went through, you know what I'm saying. But here, man, here, I am you know, judging all of these guys and I knowing the facts of you know why or where he was you know what I'm saying. But you know, I told my sister and chilling, you know, I probably guys and you know pretty that way, and I just wanted to leave it at that. Um but man was one

of the strongest guys you'll ever come across. And he was a quiet man, didn't then't talk, didn't talk much at all. And um so that at that time, you know, you know, like trade behind them. They put mirrors on their arms and they fought it a tupa but Altre was just you know, is that just another cat you've been doing a bunch of y'all You're life. You grew up in the little so you know, where's the loyalty and that's where my that's where it was that for me.

And when we didn't get that, I when I didn't get that, I wasn't satisfied. I you know, my Mom's always told me these guys don't leave you, and and these didn't keep playing families yet playing and I stuck with that after after out and passed. I looked at her when she told me, don't go after shore. That

god handling Parma is a motherfucking let god handling. And she made me promise her that I wouldn't get out there and that no damn food, she couldn't take me boring back to prison or give you fell Okay, Mama, you know what I'm saying. But I say this. You know, since my mom's passed, I've lived and I fulfilled mind my my promise to her, and I didn't do nothing. But you know, just to hear that both say that, just in words, Man, it bucked me up. And you know, I got a lot of show YEA. Let me just

say this about ahead. Neck Bone broke away from us, and like ninety seven, he went went to jail got carton Beverly Hills for a drug case and then he went went back to jail on the violation from when he was arrested with me. And so he went and at that time, and nick Bone also had a relationship with the lady of Rage, and I believe they have two kids together. They're not together currently, but they had

two kids I believe together. So, James, you haven't talked to Neckbone since two thousand two, since before your brother got killed. No, no one has really since like nineties seven, ninety eight, he kinda went into the show from what I hear, So maybe we can bring them together and

have a little sit down or something. He's on Facebook actively you know when I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna actually figure away to to just slide in and you know, because next Moon is a is a is you know, he make ball and and me, I'm just not finished that. I'm sorry, sorry, blame all the kilt on me, which is it is my fault, but I'm just you know, as you know how my fuckers be assholes and ship. But you know, two thousand and two, it's it's two

thousand and nineteen. Man, it's been seventeen years, and and I'm in the process of just trying to let it all go. You know, neck Bone and some of the other guys in the room, well like never lived dog and all those kids. I have nothing to say to these people, you know, they if you always there the night it happened, when when Bunty is killed, you got all of these these people on my at my house. And when I say let's row it's time, I got

an eight K forty seven in my motherfucking hand. And I'm telling these cats mean row out of all of those guys only to say, let's roll. Now, all these guys that i'm i'm, i'm, i'm i'm working with on a daily basis turned their backs. And these these cats, my age, these my homies, these cats been in cards with me. These cats doesn't hung out with me. And and let's get them type of ship. These guys brothers

wood Wood were hurt. And and who who right there for funk that let's go give him make James was let's go get him. And and when my when it happened to me, they all turned, they turned their backs, and I felt fucked up behind that. I felt like, man, I should go after all of these cats. But no, it's okay because it was my fault and listening and and and and put my life on the line for

the neighborhood. And that's what the neighborhoods did. But but James, um, there was a lot of people getting shot, a lot of people getting killed two thousand two. Prior to two thousand two, I can kind of understand people saying, man, they just killed Bounty. I ain't I ain't coming around. I don't know what's going on. I don't know who

shooting who. I don't know who's mad at who I could, I could kind of understand people just saying, you know what, I'm about to stay in the shadows for a minute. And this is a question that I see a lot in the comment sections, and because they want to, they want to make it the appearance come out like we were scared of the person that that that that committed these assaults. Well, most people don't understand and don't know

that these people weren't into hiding. They were hiding out in San Bernardino and stuff like that, and you know, they were able to they had the money to be mobile because they had their money right at the time and stuff like that, and they wasn't laying in the hood. For all these people that's out there always like why nothing never happened to him? Why didn't the models ever

retaliated or do anything like that? And a person that was suspected, even though James doesn't doesn't suspect them, but that the neighborhood did suspect did turn up dead behind us. Just for all you people out there that always nothing ever happened, nobody ever tried to do anything to revenge. Uh, the depth of country. Yeah, yeah, and and and you know I understand all of that, but it was just, you know, you you really had to be that, you

have to really be a part of this. And and man, me being a game member, Man I gave my whole. I gave my hole. Man I I should have gotten that. That was me. You know, if I had it, you got it. If you needed a place to stay, you got it. And and just on the game banging aspect, I've been there by all of those guys. You couldn't call me at four in the morning and I'm laying on top of something and I didn't get the funk up and just throw my pants on and I'm on my way, you know what I'm saying. So it it

just it It did something to me. Man, it hurted me. And and that's how I just felt. And you know, you was you was hearing the home boys saying, don't go to that funeral. They mean, don't go to that funeral. You know this bunch for you know what I'm saying. And Mountrey had cats like Magbone and and George George Williams, George Markham, I mean, and and you know other guys that he kicked it with his crew. You know what

I'm saying. And you know I had mine time time Joe Sean, you know, uh dar shoe, these were my cats. You know, I'm man. Couldn't nobody fun with these guys and and man it was it was only crack. So they have guys turn their back and and it's it's not too many of these catches getting killed. No, they didn't want to funk with George. They didn't want no punt of that or me. You know, I was kicking it and you know, motherfucker's sliders over to kill it.

If that was a guy, damn case shouldn't have never bunked with the ship anywhere. They shouldn't have never became gang bangers if they was worried about that, you know, And you know i'd say today, you know, bunch of you didn't listen, bunch of took the ship damn half near half a joke until he looked at the kitchen window and see cats at at the gate. You know what I'm saying. So and it is what it is. And I've yeah, take me back to your brother's funeral,

like who who showed up? And who were you surprised wasn't there? Oh man, um man, I've seen Ray Ray, j Um Crook and Eye and all those guys was there. And mctim was there. Um damn, that was such a long time ago. It was. It was a lot of people there. Um should was there? Um did you? Were you already pissed that sugar by the time the funeral happened? Oh yeah, oh yeah, we had things going on. So what was that like for sure to show up at your brother's funeral? Showed up because my sister and my

mother and then loved ship. You know what I'm saying. I argued and busting and custom the whole night about ship, you know what I'm saying And they didn't want to believe me about once. You didn't want to believe me about the ship that was going on, that that was about to unfold, that was unfolding in front of everybody's face. So seeing so here, you know, hey, what's up? And you know he over there in the crowd with with with with Jimmy and all those other cats. I didn't.

I didn't. I didn't too much really ship that day. And you know it was just so many people that came out. That was the coolest thing about it, But you had a very big you never seen you never watched the video, the one that the tape that you gave me. No, I haven't had a chance to connect it to my uh my MacBook yet, but I'm definitely gonna work on that real soon, man, I'm telling you. It was. It was yet. Yeah, they did tribute songs. Um,

they performed well, I think well Mr Lay performed there. Okay, So so who didn't show up? And who was you shocked that didn't want to pay their respects? I'll say, um, I was wone that that that probably should have went that didn't Wait, Reggie, you didn't go to funeral? No. I was having problems with Death Row as a whole. As a whole at that time. This was two two thousand two. I had just broke up. Go ahead, I don't remember I thought you. I wasn't. I wasn't. Well,

he just he just revealed he didn't show up. I called, um, well, your brother Timmy and talked to him that day. But there was things that was being said, and you know, accusations, and I wasn't feeling shooven and a lot of the Death Row crew at that time did you feel like it was just getting dangerous? And I was mad at him. They were picking on one of a guy that I was close with, and uh, and I didn't appreciate it.

I was pretty much considering myself at war with him at that time because of some things that who not Bountry and not James or in now, but some things that people that was around that for all the time. Okay, well, James, you just found out Reggie didn't go to your brothers, and honestly believe that I thought I thought I saw Reggie and Reggie right seeing. I think Reggie seen you

was there, but I didn't go. Okay, I didn't even know that, man, And I truly thought that that you came in and everybody that came to support it, and it was just so many people there. Wow, Um, I didn't I didn't know. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, me and Bob Gott he didn't both then come. We It was something that we both deeply regretted, but it probably would have been an ugly scene if we did show up. But do you really think you

and Sugar would have got into it? Redd at the funeral or something like in the parking lot or some argument would have ensued. It wasn't mainly even with Sugar. I wasn't feeling cool with Sugar at the time, but some of the people that was, wow, that's interesting there, man, this is like that, yeah, that is and you know my emotions and and you know, because at that time, man, my mom she pretty much blamed me, you know what

I'm saying. And she actually told me, she said, she said to me, why I couldn't have been you, you know, and and I was fucked up behind that and and my sister and then was like wow, you know, and man, that that that would again in my heart, put again in my heart. And from that day, man, I've always believed that if I wouldn't have never just broke a bunch you to this bullshit, the manter be here doing

this thing with his son and his grand kids. And man, that my mother, she she actually and I'm glad that me and her had our time to really just sit back and talk about it and and you know, make amends with all of that. Ship. Well, James, it sounds like you blame yourself a lot for Sugar and your brother's relationship. But I feel like if you didn't introduce them, your brother would have eventually started messing with people in death Row because they were in the hood. No, No,

I don't think Bunchy would have with it. I don't think half of them cats would have been there, especially the crew that bunch. But look how many people from Looters and mob we're messing with death Row. You don't think your brother would that circle. James and Bunty pretty much about about for him, heron and they all was pretty much about. You know, I think I believe this

and anybody had changed. Me and Bunty had bumped heads on on the mount and ship, me and bunch Ofy had had I got a hole in my mother's sucking arm for you know, biting with bunt of You know, me and my brother's pulled guns on each other when we didn't like ship and for us to understand what the other one was saying, that was us, you know what I'm saying. But at the end of the day, because nobody coming funk with Buntry, couldn't nobody fun with Timmy,

you know what I'm saying. But I just felt like if I wouldn't have, if I wouldn't if I wouldn't have just introduced him to the ship. If I wouldn't introduce them to the ship and some ships on his way, and wouldn't even tripped children when he came back to the hood like that, he probably wouldn't incorporate it off of course with all those other cats, but just stay

out of the room. So if they'd have found a way to get getting these two ships, I don't know, man, But you know my mom's made me feel that way. She made me feel that way, you know. Um at that time, Bunty, we bought, we bought moms in Carden. I gave her five thousand, bunch of gave her eight thousands. Oh that's my favorite. You know what I'm saying. She needed a Washington drive, a bunch of body Washington drive to go hunting bugs. Buntry is my favorite, you know

what I'm saying. So you know, when he died, it was like, why couldn't have them? Me and and I don't care what nobody says, the think for your mother to say how much? So too? Man, you know what I'm saying. Did you see uh boys in the hood. That's what the mother said that I wasn't nothing like she didn't give me a dude, all that stream of the bullish it and it wasn't there. It was just why it couldn't be me, and and and and we couldn't understand that ship. Damn. You know, you know my

mom's never help you. I'm sure she appreciate your growth now, um like we all do. Yeah, and how did you showed them? And this is what most people don't know. When James and I first back were reconnected, when I used to call me on and said, Shank, James, can you do a show for me? Like, yeah, yeah, a little rich or juny, we'll knock that out. But I'm right now and at the hospital, not the hospital, at the clinic with Moms, and so I'll call you back later.

James was the one that was taking Moms to the hospital s they Woden moved out from his girl house and started staying with Moms over there to help her out while she was fighting up the last the last two years of my mama fighting cancer. All right, when she was hungry, I could for her, when when she wanted to go or needed to go to the doctor, I was there for I took this. Uh, I don't care what time. It was she wanted to eat. I've been the only thing I didn't do is babe and

clothed because she was doing that on our own. Um that two years, me and my mama got we got closed, and I mean just it's it's it's it's all good, all right, exact. I got a lot of closure with a lot of ship about you know, my props and and the things that he did. And you know, she explained a lot of ship to him, which I never wouldn't. I never wouldn't understood that ship. But her last two years, man, we got cool. We got cool, and see what you're doing.

She would be very very very very proud of your brother. So I just I just appreciate the fact that she her apology meant everything to me. You know, it was everything, and that was the best part of it. You know, me and my mom's got argue. You know, my mama was a gangster. She shot pop back in the day, and she shot the shot the sucking air off she was.

She was with business. Yeah, But I right, James, rest in peace to Mahelia McDonald and um, I'm sure she appreciates everything you're doing now, man, And I want to let all the listeners know thank you for listening to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This was episode eighteen and it featured Mr James McDonald all the way from Australia. Thanks James for calling in because we really appreciate doing

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working out while you're doing your thing. And again, I want to thank everyone out there for listening to The Gangster Chronicles. Don't forget that you can listen to Reggie Wright Jr. On Bomb First. You could also check me out on Street TV. And that concludes this episode and we are out, all right, James, this has better digital Soapbuch Network production