Oath Keepers, Willie Lynch and Updates

eleven seasons in bro Um. A lot of changes to the show since the beginning for real, you know, and we've never we've never really talked about it, man, but we've been through so many changes on the show. Um. The show has grown so much to where it's almost unbelievable.

Sometimes you know, he's looking at it and look at where the times when you know, because I remember the first episode, you know, Hex you went Regie up there, y'all mat be at the studio and we knocked it out and I knew it could be something the man. But I was like, Man, I said, Man, James don't like the talk. I knew you weren't really ready to open up like that yet, I said, James don't like

the talk. And Reggie don't really like the talk. Reggie wasn't the Reggie that he is the Reggie now, right right, you know what I'm saying. So it was it was just kind of just it was on my mind the other day, man, and not about the bad moments necessarily, all the controversy and all the bullshit, just time and itself. Man. We came a long way though. Yeah, yeah, I never thought I would be doing the ship like this. I uh I really didn't have a conversation for nothing, you

know what I'm saying, but family. And you know, when I did the first video ever that was with Greg, I uh I felt a relief in me when I did that. So getting with you and red it kind of it had me scared, like, man, nobody want to in the old Nack Talking ship. And uh I found that through some of my conversation. It gave me a healing and it helps some other people. So Man, I'm

glad I did it. I'm glad I did it. I'm glad you did it too, man, and saw are a lot of other people that that was one of the things man, that I really wanted to touch on, you know, because as we come up in this next upcoming new season. Um, we're always thinking about ways to make the show better, to improve upon the show, to make it more interesting. And I know our focus is going to be more geared towards crime, talking about crimes, that's what it is.

We forget that sometimes we have all these dayn rappers and everybody else on here. You know, they're supposed to be a podcast for the streets. It's supposed to be about what's going on, you know, in the underworld, right, so you know, we start doing stuff like like talking about the Christopher Dorner cat, the police officer they shot, all those people, doing stuff like talking about how the Mexican Mafia was formed. You know, just episodes and stuff

like that. Y'all be on the lookout for. We're about to take everything to another level. You know, it's time to go to the level, you know, and I know our man. Um. I talked to Jeff the the day he told me to Sammy the Bull wanted to come back on the show. Yea. He was a good interview for me. You know a lot of people, you know, uh, you know, criticized that. Did they think about it? But you know you kind of have to really like listen

to and chalk. But you know, that was a good interview, it was a good person, it was you know, and

then that's what I get, you know. You know, if I had to do all over again, same as, I probably wouldn't have called the show Gangster Chronicles because it just puts you in a box, right, because when people think about the gangster on the West Coast, they automatically go to some bloot of essay they don't think about, you know, all the other connotations of the game is used for, you know what I mean, like the Irish gangs of the Italian Games, or gangs in Africa, you know,

you know, all over the world, and that's where we go. That's why we go start covering that stuff because it's so much bigger than just loss Answers, is so much bigger than just California the West Coast itself, you know, right right, there's a lot of really interesting stuff out there. Man.

I've been doing my research for this, so this gonna have me really on top of my production game, you know, as far as producing this type of stuff and actually getting you guys to where you're all comfortable doing that type of stuff. You know, that's cool with me. I'm with whatever. You know. Um, you know the good thing for me, I've met a lot of people through this, through Games Chronicles. I don't think I would have changed

Games Chachronicle, the name of it. Um, you know, it's just gives a person a different look at what the gangster is. You know what I'm saying, Like you said, it's it's not about being that street nigga or whatever, you know, being gangster and being able to talk about, you know, some of the things. You know, a lot of people laugh at me, like how this nigga was out there in the street like that, but he didn't get so emotional because now it's totally different. It's totally different.

I don't see gangster as you know, Bob James with a gun in his hand. You know what I'm saying. I see what I'm doing today, you know, taking care of my family, my grandkids. You know, that's gangster to me. You know what I'm saying, I'm doing what the man is supposed to do. So I ain't not there on childish ship. And you know a lot of people look at it a certain way, should I say, And then there's a lot of positive that has came out of it, So I wanted to change Gangst chronicles. I think the

name fit. It's it's who we are, you know what I wouldn't you know, of course, And I'm just saying, man like, in hindsight, looking back, of course, I'm glad I did think of the name. Maybe it wouldn't have done as well without being called that. And I look at the number of shows that we've inspired, right like, we've inspired other people to go out and do their thing. And I get some of my partners, they ask you, man such and such and them as copying y'alls, and

you get mad. I said no, because when you focused on what you're doing, you're not really worried about what nobody else got going on. Good for them brothers, if they if they figured out a way to do to make them a couple of dollars for their families, more power to them. They're not stopping nothing we're doing, right. I applaud everybody, But you know, I think it went. It's a total it's in the total um blacketness we are because we don't talk about this ship that most

talk about. We don't get on here and we don't break down the you know, try to bring down another black man and we don't, um, we don't hoglan and fuss over this this internet ship, you know. So it's totally different from me because if it was the way it is and the ship that I see, I would have did it. I don't have time to argue with another grown man over a phone or you know, in a camera. I don't have time for this ship, so,

you know, teach his own. But however they do it, and I mean they're getting paid by Fugu, well you know, and then that's my thing. James. It's like, really, man, this is how I feel about that stuff. Life is already hard enough to heels man without bringing a bunch of negative undis in your world. I don't talk about negative stuff. Man. If somebody called my line was negative stuff from cut them off quick and say, hey man, I don't too much care for all that oh sex

sluck saying that good for him. So you didn't see it, nor to see I don't look at that ship, so don't bother. Mean then I'm too busy over trying to you know, pay my mortgage man and take care of my business, you know about with your little guy going on, right, It was a process for me though, norm because you know, I've never had to really deal with ship like that.

Um for me is hand of your business. You know what I'm saying, that phone gangster ship and not if you know all that, you know tepping what line just came in? So you know with all that other stuff. You know, like you said, who got time for that? You know I got I got other things I got to do. Man. You know, I'm a full blown nanny and ship. You know, I was climbing the line on the other day, you know, turn me into a nanny boy that it was cooking clean and ship. So it

ain't nothing wrong with that, man. You know, with James, I'm gonna tell you, man, that's one of my propert things that day. You know, I still wake up every morning cook breakfast from my kids. That's good, that's cool man. Home. It's just a habit, man. They just you know that. My daughter tell me Dad, what you're cooking this morning? What you want mom? You know he's got some sauce, your eggs. And I just just a habit, man. I Uh, yesterday I got up and I made pancakes and bacon

before he went to school. So We're up at six six thirty eating breakfast. He dressed six fifty five. Way off the door, he right down the streets. So I take him to school. He gets out the car and grab his backpack, and I wait till he walked into the building. Man, it is I think I can honestly saying, I'm proud of myself for, you know, being able to do this, because where would I be What would I be doing if I didn't, I wouldn't be doing what

I'm doing now. So even with all of my little medical ship and all of that, I still do what I gotta do, you know what I'm saying. So I applaud every woman out there, single moms. I apply to maha, man, because this, you know, I've never seen it like this on the outside looking in. Man, they got a hell of a job there, bro, very important job. Man, they got a way important job. You think about it. Women have been doing it for years. Man, I applaud him.

I've never paid attention to the things my mom said. How hard can it be? That's all I used to think. Bro, this is I'm hard. This is hard, taking care of kids, trying to take care of the house hold, by yourself, doing your thing, making sure he in the bath tub, making sure school working. All this this ship is hard, man. So I'm good though, and being a parent, don't stop, James, and my oldest is the term thirty years old dog.

And I haven't. I'm still a popper, right, man, If if if all of us can stand up today and just say I'm proud to be a pops and and and and pitch in and do what you gotta do instead of being mad at the baby mama, instead of the baby mama, taking the kids away from the type of ship and learn how to co parents. Man, we will be good. Well that's all, you know. So you know I wanted to get into a little bit of things. Man.

You know, I was riding on I was coming back from Manso's house yesterday, right and I was listening to the radio. Man they said that day've caught a bunch of people that are in high positions of power. Found out they belonged to that racist group, the Proud Boys. They found police lieutenants, police captain's officers, many people, man, many people. When they had the convergence on um on

the White House. You know when Trump left off, is I always wondered how those people, that many people got even that close to the White House to do what they did right? Right? That was all like the police pretty much said they was a part of it. Yeah, and norm I keep saying, what makes just because you are authority figure, what makes you think you can't be corrupt? What makes you think they're better than the guys they

out there arresting as gang members. Now, I know white people see it different, but we can't see it different. You got police officers going to jail way back in time, going to jail for robberies, going to jail for assault nigh wives. So what makes you think that he can't get his ship together? That just would be like me. You know, I am ex gang member, but they allowed me to be a poetic police officer because I never got up and never been arrested. Now I'm a cop.

Now I'm in my old hood, you know, doing my beating ship, and I'm letting a slide that you know, robbing motherfucker's I'm a part of it. You know what I'm saying, I'm no different. White people are no different from us man, everybody, and they from the beginning of time. How do you think they got it all. They always been crooks. And I'm not just speaking just I'm not speaking for all. But man, we got cops out here, we got fire department out here, we got doctors, lawyers,

all kind of shipped out here. That's, you know, on the other side of defense. That's straight over. So come on. But James, this is scary to say though, and it's not not in correction. Everybody is not the Proud Boys. It's the old Keepers, they said. The Old Keepers members list includes hundreds of law enforcement officers, politicians, military members.

This is really like, this is something, Jane, listen this The names of hundreds of US law enforcement officers, elected officials, and military members appear on the league membership roles of a far right extremists group that's accused of playing key role in the January six, two thousand twenty one ride

at the US Capital. According to a report, at least Wednesday, the Anti Defamation League Center of Extremism Board over more than thirty eight thousand names on leak Off Keepers membership list and identified more than three hundred seventy people that believes currently working law enforcement agencies, including his police chiefs and shriffes and more than one hundred people who are

currently members of the military. It also identified more than eighty people who were running for or served in public office as of earlier August. The membership information was compiled into a database published by the Transparency Collected Distributed Noledge secrets. You know, this praises a lot of concerns right here. What this is scary? You know, Um, you got all

these people that are in positions of power. They are supposed to be able to look at everyone with some kind of ambiguity, right, us all being the same, Right, it shouldn't be the thing when the police pulled you over in your car, that's a black that that's a nigger right there, I'm aroused him up or he passed by a white person that maybe bring the long on and let him slide, you know, because they have no way. That's almost like you being like like like police officers

being cryps of blood. Stamn. There. It's just another form of the game, that's all. That's what I'm saying. So it's like it's like and then you look at all this ship they don't find in Trump's house. It makes you really think Trump had some ship in this house. Dog. Trump is a gamester dog, you know, motherfucker. I don't. I don't think everybody really pay attention to real life. Real life. Man, All black people ain't evil. All these

brothers out here hanging with gang members ain't evil. And you got guys like myself that that understand they wrong doing and in a certain situation and they find their way out of it. But for us, it's too late because we figured this ship out at the old age, you know what I'm saying. But but these people have been doing it and been under that that call for

a long time, you know what I'm saying. So come on, man, it's not surprising everything every every black man that went to jail, it's good or bad, because you see it today on on on on this social media ship where a judge was pulled over and he was treated bad until they found out who he was, you know what I'm saying. So when they when they go out there and and and they profiled, We profiled every day wherever we go. If you got a hat on while you ride in the car, if it's red or blue, it's

only cracking. He got to have something in his car. You can have a great beard, a whole nine. That don't matter. It don't matter. So look at look at Trump, look at look at all of these other uh people have influenced and and tell me they're going to jail, go on besselment and all of this other ship. Come on, man, it's it's a crook. Is a crook. Yeah, and that's what he yield is. Man. But you ever wondered, oh, man, look at this, this motherfucker Trump. This dude is uh,

this dude is something else. Man, he said, you know, he hasd stuff about nuclear arms in this house, dude, about how to attack certain other countries and stuff like that. What is you need the president? No, wh what do you have that ship in your house for? Well? Did he have that ship because when he was president, he was trying to figure out what the president should do. I mean, it could have been all kind of reasons, but he should have had that ship in a better

place than where he had it. That ship ain't supposed to go nowhere, but he got it. So Trump is a different breed. She's the only thing about Trump. He some things he had in the closet, but that motherfucker's is straight one with his ship. You know what I'm saying, and he gonna find a way to clear up his ship. Totally different from most people because a lot of people stay in the closet with their bullshit. He ain't in the closet. You like Trump don't change. No, No, I

don't know him to hate him. But I didn't think he was good as a president. I don't think nobody was good as the president period. Nothing changed for us. You know what I'm changing. It changes for them, but it don't change for us. So you didn't think Obama did the fishing job. My thing about Obama man, is that I supported Obama. He was a black man, first black man, and he was in He wasn't out there like that, you know, I'm gonna get money and want to want to be everywhere and want to be seen.

He wasn't like that. He was a family man. He was way, He was tied down. So that's what I liked it about Obama. He didn't take his position to a different level than what it was supposed to be. But did I think he did anything for us? No. Ship didn't change. Ship didn't change certain aspects of the game. Trump opened the doors for certain black people to get their businesses off the ground, the whole nine. So hooray for him. Trump before he walked out of there, he

pardoned black man. He pardonered some brothers that should have been still in jail, or would have been still in jail, you know. And you know brothers that should have been home. You know what I'm saying. So you know, they do certain things to help other people, but they don't do nothing to help the neighborhood, our community. How do you make make it easier for me to live my life and take care of my kids. You know what I'm saying. It's hard for a black man really get a goddamn job,

which what what that should be. They focus to be able to take care of their kids, to be able to put that black man back in his home with his wife and kids. Once they once they stripped us from that, They ain't. They ain't thinking about putting us back where we belong in society. They're not doing that. You go to jail, you do fifteen years, you get out. They ain't. They ain't offen your ship free. They ain't trying to school you and until you get a trade

and this and that. Some some do it in prison because they ain't got nothing to do. But if those that don't, I mean, you know, man, So it's it's like that when it comes to a president, I really don't don't bother me now, Yeah, And I'm not looking for Trump to get in any kind of trouble. I don't think he's gonna face it. He kind of legal

sanctions or nothing like that. Man. I think it's hey, if if, if and and and I can say that, what if Obama had all that ship, what if Obama acted and was our raaded like Trump, he'd have been gone. So don't call the kettle black. You treat him just like you would treat that black man if he was in there. Like like these police officers, murderous murder, no him, you kill a man, you shoot a man nine ten

times in a wheelchair, he is no threat. If you kill it, motherfucking you should go to jail for murder, not man slaughter, not giving him his pension and telling him he can't be a cop nor mode. That's a pat on the motherfucking back. But if I go kill a police officer, they've been a book me even whoop my ass every motherfucking day, and some days they're not gonna feed me or shower me. So I get the bad into the stick because I'm a civilion, just a

regular black motherfucking So. No, they don't know. They shouldn't get a pass. That's why this world is fucked up today, because they get a break on that ship. Man. Murderers, murder, You take a life, You take a life. See I figured though, James. But shake this out though, man, let me go back to my ship. Man. These guys, man, these guys had they found a list with thousands of people on that bro I believe it without with with with with with hunt with with with hundreds, not thousands, hundreds.

You know, I'm trying to see what this list was at. Man, they got motherfucker's a hundred hundred people under open the military. Um, No, I didn't believe. Do you believe everything? Would you say? It's possible for out of every police station in California there's at least two corrupt mom to corrupt cops in his division. Yeah, for sure. And That's what I'm trying

to see. So this is here. The Oathkeepers, they were founded in two thousand nine by Stewart Roads, is a loosely organized conspiracy theory few group that recruits current and former military, police and first responders. It asked its members to vow to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. For most the belief that the federal government is out the strip citizens of their civil liberties, and

paints his followers defenders against tyranny. You know, the Oathkeepers things, James don't seem like. It's really not so much of a racist thing as it is an anarchist type of thing that people that just don't trust the government. It says more than two dozen people associated with the Oathkeepers, including Roads, have been charged in connection with the Janguary

six attack. Roads and four other Keeper members are associates are heading to trial its mother on sudacious conspiracy charges for what prosecutions have described as a week's long plot to keep then president Donald Trump and power. Yeah. These dudes going to jail. Man, they're getting locked up. Yeah. And and and the bad part about it is, and I don't know why they think the way they think. They believe that this world belongs to them. This is a white world. It's just stay white. Come on, man,

they know that ain't true. I ain't no educated motherfucker. But I know if this was only a white world, how the black people get here, how the Asian people get here? So you don't own this planet. Nobody does. But they truly believe that white should be with whites and whites or supremits or supreme over all other races. So yeah, I want to get that. Listen you right, James, not to cut you w but these people feel like

this is our country, this is our planet. If stuff is not going to the direction in which we like it, we are going to raise hill and make some changes. Have you know the James that white people are getting a lot more bold? Yeah, well that's when Donald Trump came. When Donald Trump came, they all came out the classes, A little bit of everybody did. And Donald Trump is is is their black Obama? Are black Obama? When when when Obama one and one again, that was that was man,

That's all we needed to hear. But when Trump came, and Trump was I want to say the right thing. Let's say, when Trump came, it opened the door for a lot of them to be who they are, for a lot of people to open up and express how they feel about this country, about uh, black people about their position and about the problem that they they so called their self have. So that's all that was. Yeah, James,

it was three thousand people. That's a lot. That's a lot of people, James, and m four police chiefs and this is just some Texas along four police chiefs to county sheriffs, two constables, and two county commissioners, and they have a bunch of state senators and everybody else and this ship, Man, I want to see this list, man, I bet you so. Anybody, I wouldn't be surprised. We saw some other funers. We knew all this ship. Whether listen ain't gonna matter. It don't matter because we've been

living this ship the whole time. You see it. When motherfucker's go to jail, you know, you go to the county jail, you get a little A little white kid got a little money. He do six months for attempted murder and and I do five six years for it. So it's the ship, man Hattan to know him favoritism been in this motherfucking country for the longest. It depends on who you are, bro. And people need to wake to funk up. And that's why when I say they need to wake up. Certain things we know we cannot do,

we shouldn't do boldly as we do it. And it's some things that a certain way we need to act, you know what I'm saying. So this white cat told me, he said, why would anybody take black people serious when black people kill each other? Why would why would black people take each other serious when we can't even trust each other? I don't know how to answer that, because it's right, that's the real sick seams, you know what.

You know what, I'm gonna say something. I'm being honest, man, I'm trying to think of like racist encounters I've had over my life. I've had a few racist encounters, and I'm not gonna see a whole bunch of them. I've had a few of them, though, right, But most of my stress, stress, strife and turmoil has came feeling with my presence people I should probably at least amount of problems with man um. And I think that's what it is. Man. I think that Willie Lynch's letter man Um. I think

Willie Lynch Man was a real thing. I believe that because we don't we have a very man a very large amount of mistrust amongst each other. Well, see, we get that ship misconstrue because how many of us I'm talking about nickers hanging in the street, black man period, know about that letter. We ain't living off of that, man, These young niggas out of the street, out of here. The way they're killing people and doing ship is way disrespectful.

But they ain't living off of the winning that thing, living off of that, Bro, My fucker's just out here. Don't give a fuck. You know what I'm gonna do, James, I'm gonna leave a copy of the Um, I'm gonna put a woolly copy of the PDF for the woolly links letter. Yeah, and the description for this show man, because I think, um, that's a lot of youngsters are here to need to read this. That was a real thing. Because the thing is, bro, if you don't study history,

you're doomed to repeat it. Right. So the longer we still keep walking around here worried about who told on who and who did this and that, who're messing with whose baby Mama, we're not really up on the ship we need to be on, man, because we're on bullshit. Well, I'll tell you this and it might not take too long for it to happen. But they are showing that they are mad with uh, mixed people, people, black men

with white women. They're getting and so they out here fighting, jumping on black men, jumping on white boys that got a black woman. This ship is coming the past and it's getting worser. They are, they are out and they don't care. Which, come on, man, this is a free fucking world. Ain't nobody understanding that, just like we don't understand ship. They got their issues too, bro, these white boys, these white people got their issues too, These Karen's and

all of this other ship. They didn't. They didn't just wait till it was thirty forty years old to start acting like this ship. They've been acting like that. But see what we gotta do is acknowledge the ship that's going on and that's about to happen. Yeah, because James, you know whether I'm not gonna read the whole thing, but I'm gonna read the pair the two paragraphs and let's make a slave. This is an instruction guy, on how to break a black person. All right? Yeah, I

read it. It was the interests in business of slaveholders to study human nature and the slave nature in particular with a few to practical results, I am many of them. Let me turn. It's the right way. We started over again, because I don't want to keep going on. It was the interest in business of slaveholders to study human nature, and the slave nature in particular, with a few to practical results. I am many of them attained astonishing propity

in this direction. They had to deal not with earth, wood and stone, but with men, and by every regard they had for their own safety and prosperity, they needed to know the material of which they were to work, conscious of the injustice and wrong they were. I'm gonna read the last part. I'm addit all the other ship out. Let us make a slave. What do we need? First of all, we need a black nigger man, a pregnant

nigger woman, and her baby nigger boy. Second, we would use the same basic principle that we use and breaking a horse, combined with some more sustaining factors. What we do with horses is that we break them from one form of life to another. That is, we reduced them from their natural state and nature where nature provides them with the natural capacity to take care of their offspring.

We break the natural string of independence from them. And thereby to create a dependency state so that we may be able to get from them useful production for our business and pleasure. Principles of are making a myth grow for fear that our future generations may not understand the principles of breaking both of the beasts together, the nigger

and the horse. We understand the short range planning economics results and periodic economic chaos, so that devoid turmoil in the economy, it requires us to have breath and depth and long range comprehensive planning. Articulating both skills sharp perceptions, we lay down the following principles long range comprehensive economic planning. Both horse and niggerance is no good to the economy and the wild or natural state. Both must be broken

and tied together for orderly production. Man, I can't read no more this ship. This ship is crazy, dog. But if a motherfucker read that ship, James, it would really make you wonder, Man, what the hell is going on with us? We followed that like we followed that. Somebody followed those instructures to a team, and they still got us funked up to this day. Right, But do you think they honestly in our head like that to where we feel like we need to go and shoot our

own kind. No, I think, yeah, you know what he's sayings. Let me tell you something. I think what the Willie links, what they're talking about this letter. I think we have been programmed to a certain extent. Think about it, especially when you go, like I was just back at home in Ohio. Right, You've got generations of people that's been on welfare. I knew houses that people's great grand parents stayed in. Now the grand kids and everybody else stay

in the same house on welfare. Whole new group of people, but same family. Right. It's because at some point nobody ever came in to break that side. I think with us, bro, it's the same thing we've never We're in a cycle that has never been broken. We got a cycle of there's not being fathers to their children. We got a cycle of mothers trying to be friends with their daughters. We have a cycle of black hatred, of people hating themselves, people not knowing, people are not loving who they are.

I'm gonna tell you, bro, this thing is real. This thing is real. I'm just crazy, dog, but I mean, you know, I just have a whole code, just a different opinions. I believe that, and I believe we are stuck somewhere and believing that this is how we're supposed to act. I believe that. So I'm not gonna go and say that it ain't their fault. Today's day, the majority of the ship that we're doing is our fault because half of us don't even know nothing about that.

Half of these cats don't even know nothing about the Martin Luther King. We out here doing what we want to do. You know, when I was gang banging, I truly believe that I was protecting the hood. I was a part of that neighborhood. And can't nobody come in here and be with the wom Now when you get in a car and you go to a different hood, you're going to that hood to disrupt that hood. Right, This ain't protecting the neighborhood, cause ain't nobody come in the hood to do nothing. But I get in that

car with intent to go disrupt another neighborhood. So what did that tell you? That ain't got nothing to do with protecting the hood. But we believe that ship still, even though we're in the car about to do what we're gonna do we believe this ship. Oh, listen to this man, it gets I'm gonna read two more. I'm gonna be gonna read two more paragraphs. Right, It's says here the nigger marriage. We breathe two nigger males with two nigger females, and then we take the nigger males

away from them and keep them moving and working. Say one nigger female bears a nigger female and the other bears of nigger male. Both nigger females with being without influence of the nigger male image, frozen with an independent psychology, were raised their off spring into reverse positions. The one with the female offspring would teach her to beat like herself, independent and negotiable. We negotiate with her through her, by her,

We negotiate her at will. The one with the nigger male off spring, she being frozen with a subconscious fear for his life, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong. In other words, body over mind. Now, in a few years, when these two all springs would coome fertile for early for reproduction, we would make them, breathe them and continue to cycle. This is good sound

and long range comprehensive planning. See they say it right there, that we are taking away any semblance of the male being dominant in that relationship. What do you see in most black households. Let me go talk to my mama. You barely really hear a blue boy say, let me go talk to my daddy. It's fair when you hear that,

let me go, let me ask my mama. It's still like that to this day, James, because we've been the black male in this country has been made a fool of for when you look at television, it's always the premise when you see a black father on television. All besides Bill cost Me and James Evants, there was only

two strong black fathers I heard I saw on television. Now, they may have had a couple of them I missing, But I don't watch everything on TV, right, But for the most part, every father is a buffoon on TV. What's the one? What's my Man's name? The comedian Mike Epps, he has a show to where he's, you know, a father on there, but he's always getting caught cheating, always in some kind of scheme. It's always a joke with him. He's a clown with the move. He's a clown on

the show. He's not a responsible person, right, Um, he has automotive shop, got conference selling stoven parts. You know. Um, he's being made to look like a fool of clown. We don't see a whole bunch of positive images of us on TV and not what the internet has gotten even worse because you've got brothers our Age. It's out there acting retarded and out they're acting the food. So this will Ellen is very real and they did a very good job of programming us, Dog, because we have

done nothing to change it and were so ignorant. Bro, we don't even know about this letter's existence. You're talking to people about this day but like, oh, that's some ship that got made up. That's not real, right, that's not real. It's saying that some real ship though this letter is old. Dog, that is crazy. It's crazy. It's he oh man, And like the thing is Man, it hasn't changed, James, because we are still doing the same stuff hundreds a few years later. Dog, we're not doing

any better. We're not you know what. You may look on the service and say, yeah, we've had a black president now we gotta Um, I don't know, I don't know if this woman is black or whatever he is, because not too long ago she was saying she wasn't black, So I don't know which she is. But all that's kept, dog, Yeah, what they want. Let let's have a black president, y'all have one. Chock it up. I get all of that,

But that letter is something else. Man. Just think of the minds of the motherfucker's that said at the table and figured that out. Yeah, And I'm gonna tell you if niggas was anything five or six hundred years ago, like they all the baby, I don't think it would have been hard. Dog. No. Yeah, and as sad as it was the same, man, Because I'm gonna tell you, Dog, you're looking at even our situation. Dog, we have we had that, Man, I think we could have been the

coldest motherfucker's ever on the internet. Dog. But it all comes down to it. But you know what, I can't say that because Alex ain't black. I forgot. Alex only black when he when he's when it suits him. I'm not going into all that because this show ain't about him. But but he don't think so, I don't know. It's probably probably really only just me, you and Rexy. Dog. You know what I mean, right, You feel what I'm saying. That's no knock. I love my Hispanic people. I got

my kids a half Mexicans. Don't coming be with that bullshit because I love everybody. But on the same token, no, Dog, we really let them motherfucker come and infiltrate our ship. Dog. I ain't gonna say it was successful. Dog, But Rex, you should have still been with us. Dog, But Reggie believe the whole bunch of the bullshit well, and and that still could have been possible. But you know, we don't know that because Reggie got sick, and and Reggie wasn't and I don't think still ready to two put

itself out there. So I mean, we don't know. But you know, as that as as when we first started Gangster Chronicles, you know, I can't lie Gangster Chronicles was it was good and the team was good. Now if if, if, when, it has still been the same, If Reggie never would have went to jail, I think we we we'd have got stronger and pushed a little harder if Reggie wouldn't went to jail. But with the inside bs and I've always said that let our money come. It don't have

to be big and let us just let our money come. Um, we shouldn't have arguments about money or who doing what or who in the comments people are gravitating to more than the other. You know, those things came to play in gangster chronicles, and I don't think you know, I wasn't looking for to be that celebrity. Dude, I'd have been around that ship. That ship is not no which called I don't go hang out in nightclubs in certain places to be seen or hope somebody recognized me. Don't

do that. So you know, when Reggie went to jail, I think that changed the dynamics of where we was at. And then oh boy felt the need not to or thought he can do as he choose, which that wasn't the case. You know what I'm saying. You know, conversations with that brother, I told you, man, I need you. I'm mean, I'm really like, what the funk I'm gonna do? Remember when you said you were going to move to Atlanta. I ain't doing this ship without if you ain't there.

So I was like that I didn't want to touch this Alex. I mean, Reggie is gonna we don't drove him to the penitentiary, and then here it is just us. So ain't no regulationship because I ain't regulating ship. There's only one motherfucker that's that's putting the show together and then going down. Now, what he was good at is bringing the material hick for us to talk about and say, Okay, pick and choose what we're gonna speak on, and we can do fifteen minutes on this, twenty minutes on that.

It added up to hours. So it was great. Dog. That's why I knew when I picked the people, because see it was some other couple. It was a couple of other people I thought of outside of Alex. Yeah, bially when I put the show together, and I felt he would be the best one because he was more like an organizer of model ragar. You feel what I'm saying, organize a modern rigor It didn't. I didn't want to show to consistent. Show was never supposed to consist of

three people. It was very deliberate and focused the way it was put together. It was supposed to be a guy from the streets, a guy that was formerly from law enforcement that some some part of the law right and yeah it works, and and it worked, and it worked like a mother for the dog, and I just thinking the show. You know, actually the show was doing way bigger numbers, not in the dial back then, but

that's because of growth. Who's to say that show wouldn't have been at a bill in the trick, you feel what I mean? Who was to say that wouldn't have been You just have never know dog. But that comes to a part of of really letting people dog because you know the whole stuff. But he came in before he was trying to kick you guys to go do some other stuff, right, and he wasn't even their mom. So it's like, really, from that point, I should have

told him to kick rocks. So now so well when we first started, and and then even even with me believing in thinking that okay, once you start doing these shows, who knew that you have to do so much to get to a certain level, you know what I'm saying. So you know, but still right now today, I don't concern myself with that, you know what I'm saying. I don't concern myself. So you know, by him making it or us think that the numbers is saying we should

be doing this and doing that. That's that's where you know the confusion came. And then when he didn't want to like listen and we tried to have that conversation with him on the phone. But you know, you want people to apologize to you, but you don't think you

will apology. That's when it became when the funk this dude think he is Yeah, well you know what it was, James, the thing he was, Man, everybody that was ever on this show always got paid a little bit more than what they were supposed It was always like that because from the moment I was trying to keep it so one hunter dog that I said, you know what, forget

this deal we got. We just gonna run everything, you know equal, you know, instead of saying, okay, y'all get set any percent and I take my thirty percent and going about my business. Yeah you know what it's for, but be doing this work. Let's just do it like that, because actually I took money for myself and say, okay, I'm cool with that. I don't have no issue with it. Man, And I think that the earliest one. Man, That's what

I mean about that negativity. Whenever you bring somebody in that, especially when they come under the guys like they know more than everybody else. Oh man, we should be doing this and that. And he can't really say that because he don't really know what the numbers he is to the show outside are the YouTube ship. He is never once polled analytics. And that's what I'm saying. I didn't know none of that ship. I didn't want to concern myself. But then you know, there's no need to the world.

You got you got four men men not they ain't gotta be black. They can be black, white, whatever, but you've got four brothers. I thought he was black. Um working together my whole thing. As long as everybody get paid. We ain't gonna say this that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to hear that. James is uh bigger than than what James making a show funk all that we're supposed to be doing this ship together. But what I

do understand is black men can't work together. Black people can't work together because you see all these rappers, these singers, every group had the same issues that we have. Yeah, you know what the James, I'll correct you on that, bro, Blacks can't work together. Niggas can't work together right right, Well, you know, I just didn't want to use that word, but you know, but I mean, you know, what's up money?

How you doing? Man? Fine, you're you're going to school now? No, but I say no to my I want to go to school. You don't want to go to school? Or do you go to school? Single time? Miss Kelsey, Miss Kelsey bold caps head long Kelsey, alright, shut up to Miss Kelsey. Yea yeah. But bro, the thing is, man, and I'm not doing this. This is for me. It's closure right here, because once we speak on this today, I'll never bring it up again though, because the dude's

been going for three years, no dog. And that's why I'd be the funny part about this when I see some person say something like, oh man, they do this and that this ain't this, this ain't that, and it's like, dude, so you've been listening for the past three years since the dude's been gone, but you still keep listening to some stuff that you don't make you think I messed up, you know what I mean. So I'm sure everything on the other end of us, on the other end of

our conversation, they listen, but then they don't understand. They don't, they don't, they don't grasp. Then they don't understand this ship. And and I can honestly say, and I'm gonna say his name, Alex chose not to be a part against Chronicles on his own. Alex wasn't told nigga, you're done, you out of here if we don't want you back. It wasn't nothing like that at all. None of those

words was other to that. Dude, you felt that I can't work with certain individuals and Gangster Chronicles because of this? Why concern yourself of that? You got your own shoulder, do you? Why are you concerned about and and only being here for a short period of time. Do we supposed to be getting a million dollars a hundred thousand dollars a week or something? I mean, let me know what you you know what the thing was to this crazy names the winds in the CDs building at that time,

we didn't have a six weeks with nobody. I was paying every time that came through there. So when that wasn't my concern. See that's the thing, James, I've never made it. Nobody's concerned because this is something I can ask you guys to come and do. So I wasn't gonna be up there saying, Okay, I got a network, but I'm asking you all the paper stuff. That was just a part of the calls. I think that was a part of the game. So whether we want to lose a droll, I knew at the end of each

night I had to shoot them do some break. You see what I'm saying this. The struggle was hard, you know, you know, coming from Compton to go down there. You know, the gas and ship, you know what I'm saying. And we really didn't see a dollar for a while. I mean what we do uh phody shows and thirty something shows before before we get kid. I believe anything you you you start off doing, it's gonna be it's gonna be a struggle. We're gonna get We're gonna have to

get to that point. So I understood that. So I didn't trip off that in the turn fruitful because you know, my thing is this man, we all the team, right, and that was my part of being a team being then executive producer, making sure that you know, nobody ever once came up and the studio was shut down. No, it was always opening the filip it was always open to Velp. I did everything I was supposed to do so and that was my thing with that. And I think with what Dude's main issue was is some people

want to be in control the situations. You get invited somewhere and you know, I'm putting the bill for this here, but you want to come over and dictating now how stuff is gonna be. And it's kind of like, what, dude, if you was doing this ship like that, like if you was the nigga you claim you are gonna your show, ain't like that then, because this shows the pass the ship he had. It's the truth and that I could pull up numbers and everything else, it can't fun with it.

Even now, our last episode Dog on the Audio was at a hundred twenty thousand already on all the not know YouTube Shipping on the Audio, we still some bad motherfucker's. When the top ten fifteen podcasts in the world, you can bet that I show numbers for that I ain't talking about No YouTube should either, real numbers, you know. So it's like that's why when people say all that, like you have no idea what the funk you're talking about?

You don't know it well. I put the ship past me man, and like I said, I know who he is, he know who we are, and I don't see I don't see nothing in the future. I mean, I wish you well. I want to wish well too. The printed dogs, you know what, man, well, we had together. It was cool when it was there, but it ain't no more right, and we moved past it. So I think everybody ol ship and this is kind of like the I think

before we go into this new phase. That's why I wanted to put this episode out like this right here. I want to do something for me and you was just me and you, not eight because eight didn't have nothing to do with all that other ship right right. You know what I'm saying, I kind of want haveving thing with you because we had never really sat down and talked about the showing itself. You know, well, me personally, I didn't really believe that. You know, it was really

nothing to talk about, you know I did. I was the one that kept acting Alex Man, I need you, I need you, I need you. I kept acting uh he's He called it begging, But I ain't never begged man nigga for ship you feel me. So he called it begging. But you know, at that point, I really did need his expertise to two keep my growth coming

along like it like I wanted to. And I still had even though we was in the studio and talking and it wasn't no audience and ship like that, I still had butterflies and ship like so I didn't know what what to expect. All I've seen is I'm gonna fail at this. I'm anna fail at this, and I didn't want to. I didn't want to fail. So when we had that one episode, this hafter Reggie going and he didn't come, Okay, put on your big boy draws and going to do it by yourself. That's when I'm

and everything was good. Yeah, So that's that gave me a fool. Okay, it ain't as bad, you know what I'm saying. Just float with the people you're talking to and and you know, create your own dialogue as you go. You don't need to. I didn't have to write nothing. I didn't use the ship that I wanted to ask. So I did it that way. And after that, before the the O Heart situation came up, No, when I found out, So when when you know I did that show. I said, Okay, now we figure out that we got

this little thing going with our heart. So I called an accident to come back. I didn't want to tell him we got a deal going on and I'm gonna need you think that we got gonna check this out, a deal that we got that he and involve getting the first place that. Yeah, he was already gone, but I wanted him to come back. I really wanted him to come back. I would have been comfortable and knew that I didn't have to get on no goddamn computer.

I didn't have a computer to look up ship like whatever he did and brunt that that that he made me comfortable, that's what he did. Do all bullshit aside. So I wanted that comfortability moving and moving on to that. So I'm actually, bro, I need you to come back. His whole thing was nah, nah, you know I could come back with you, but no, I can't do Norman. You know, no, I can't do Norman. I can't do Norman.

So now they find out that we have the deal thing going all right, so there's no need to call. There's no need for us to conversate and talk. Now I gotta figure out how I'm a move on and with this new growth thing and and just keep it otion. But that was too late. See, that was my thing. Though we didn't need the motherfucker's We had already did what we had to do to get the deal without him. He was gone, but he was gone for so many

episodes already. But I'm understanding that now. I'm understanding that now. At that time, it was my stomach, in my head, my mind, everything was going. Man, I was I was like, what the fuck? What the funk? Am I gonna do? What we gonna do? And I didn't want to fail. I didn't want to I didn't want it to become you know, damn, what if our heart don't like us and or or understand the ship that I'll be talking about the way I speak on things, They're not gonna

like us. And you gotta remember, James. So from the from the time that dude left to where we got the Heart deal, we had already did like fifty two episodes of our own were finished with that last. We had finished that. That sick that that that commitment we had fifty two episodes to do, we have finished that. He wasn't not on one of me was gone already, he had shows. Yeah, I was good and I'm not gonna live. I was glad the motherfucker was gonna you know, I was happy to say. I said I had come

to do the show full time. I thought it was over and that's where you came in. Uh when when when you came in? I had I had told Brian first, Brian, You're gonna have to put on your big boy drawers and com from behind all this dis equipment and get on the show. Brian was like, I don't know, know him. You gotta do the show. Bro. They think that you just said, fucking I'm gonna take the show and know him just wanted to be a superstar. You no, No, I got something make a change. You know what. People

donna understand. I hardly have time for my family. Every day I'm doing some ship. People don't understand. I got eight other shows. Thought, so this is like, you know the stuff, and I'm not a host on eight other shows, but it's other shows that I produced or whatever like that, and I'm behind the scenes on So I was like, ship, I was never meant to sit in the seat. I'm glad I did it because I ensoul way it right.

But when people say, oh he did because he wanted to be famous, that was a kid just keept my mess on there. From the beginning. You came a long way too. You came along motherfucker's way because I remember one time you were sitting there eating candy, and then I remember another time I said, can't be eating candy or some ship, and then you'll be like this funding this motherfucker, and you'll be looking like you're going to sleep.

Nor So we all came a long way, I mean, doing different ships that we shouldn't do on while we while were recording and ship, it took a while for me to get adjusted to the video portion because I'm so used to a podcast being shamed. We're this audio. I actually liked it that way because sometimes I don't feel like getting tressed up, but you feel what I'm saying,

especially if we're somewhere in the studio. Sometimes I might come to take top of some shorts freak from the gym and be like, okay, well, you know we're doing our ship right, but the video forces you to start doing different ships, you know what I mean. I mean, I don't get fucking I'm sitting at home. I'm at home, so uh I putting on the put on the button down shirt right now. It's it's not about my appearance,

It's about my conversation. So all I say, bro, is I appreciate the fact that that I was asked to do a podcast. You know, one thing I realized and understand now is that when you get on there, people try to, you know, speak bad because they want their ship to be a certain kind of way. All this whatever they call troll and all this other bullish it. I ain't. I ain't up on that ship, and I

really don't care about none of that. You feel me? So, you know, I don't You know now today, do I want to lash out as a certain individuals and feel a certain kind of way. Yeah, I do, But I don't get anything, and it ain't gonna get not not of it. Man. You know what. I don't do nothing but wish that dude the best of luck, and I'm I'm glad. I hope he'd be very successful. Dogs we could leave me to fun, me and mine alone. Said, you know that half make millions, My nigga, go do

what you do. You know what I'm I'm at be for you. You know what I'm saying, I'm at it for you. Now, one thing about this, I ain't never really had nothing against Regge like that about who. I ain't never really had nothing against Regge. I think Redge was kind of like a victim of misinformation on some ship because he was indepenitentiary and he was talking to certain individuals, but the ones that he should have been talking to. Yeah, like that can happen. It did happen,

you know, and it happened. Dog, And I ain't got no like Reggie. I'm glad to see he's still in the land of the living dog. You know, we we you know what I'm saying. Like the thing is, man, some ship just ain't as deep as motherfucker's thinking. This is a podcast, dude, Well you got you know, lot of people got a misconception about me and Reggie, and you know I have to explain that. You know, Reggie is not just Reggie right to me? He JUNI I know him as junior. I knew him as a child.

I know his grandmama, I know his granddaddy. I used to go look for his granddaddy when his granddaddy, Uh would wander away from home. Um, I know his aunties, I know his cousins. You know, I lived right down the street, A house away from a house away from me was reggie mama house. I used to go cut the hedges. We used to do all kinds of ship as little kids over there. So you know, my relationship with Reggie is just not know nigger, I just met. I knew Reggie before he was a police officer. You

know what I'm saying. I know what Reggie would have been if he didn't have a father that that gave a fun You feel me. I know what he would have been. I know what ship night would have been if he didn't that father figure at home get snatched that Nickeby's collar. You feel me. So you know my relationship with Reggie. I know what type of Reggie, what

type of motherfucker Reggie can be. I understand him, though, Um it really don't matter because I'm not gonna look like a fool or make him look like a fool. And I gotta talk to his pops like what's going on, what's this and that and and and vice versa. I know he ain't gonna do that with my family, but you know, people say Reggie threw you under the bus, Reggie did this, Reggie did that, while you still fuck with Reggie. My relationship goes deeper than this, this podcast

ship and all of that. So I was my concern for Reggie losing his life when he called COVID, I was that sucked me up. You know what I'm saying. When I'm mad at him. It sucked me up. And when Reggie called and and I had to have that conversation on the podcast when he was in prison. I had to let Reggie, no, come on my nigga, this You know me better than anybody that's listening and doing whatever here and and this way you go. So that's when I got the under Okay, you call chancing you

you're gonna speak on me just to do this. So I had to get on there and say what I had to say, but in the clean kind of way. Um, everybody know James Mob, James don't have a filter. I could have said I don't give a funk at any time and it would have been what it is. But then his his family would have been looking like, WHOA, what the hell is going on here? You know what I'm saying, so I'm not gonna disrespect his family by by being disrespect with the Reds. You know what I'm saying.

I knew what Red capable of, But the love I had for that dude didn't just start yesterday. You feel me. I've been doing this dude for for goddamn I always Reggie. They lived in the hood when they moved. They was in the hood before me. We moved there to seventy three. So when I met Reggie, you know, he was on Pine going to he was born to Foster, so he wasn't even in the fifth grade, fourth grade. I don't know how you would you be, but I think he was eight nine, ten years or eight nine years old.

But he's a little nigked, you know what I'm saying. And I was running the streets. I'm in the hood. We're hanging out. So you know when Reggie Brown, when they came to his mama house, his grandma house, you know him, the cousins, Tony uh, all of them. Two of his cousins is from the hood, from the neighborhood. Veggie would have been from the hood, to be told, but he had Reggie right senior that was with it. When that was standing on his ass. Yeah, so that

was the only difference. But man, I got love for and regardless of whatever, you know, I just I just got that that love from him, and it don't stand from yesterday, you know, man. But man, you know what, Man, we gonna leave the past and the past and for the information. Let me ask you a chance and not go like this, Well, look I'm sleep. Yeah, I don't never be sleeping. Look at this. When I go like this, I don't know why heels, man, when I laid back like this, So if y'all see me like this, I'll

never sleep on Why the fun a whoof? Okay? You had woke? Yeah, Like now I'm back there sleeping, you know, like I'm back there. No, No, that's to make me lad because I've seen people in the comments like it's still sleep and I'm like what they're talking about. And then I noticed when I laid back like this, that's why I'm laid back like that, and where I'm always

like right. And then even when you look down at your phone like sometimes you know, because I'll be taking notes, you know, for the show, like certain times and stuff, so I look down and text some stuff. I'm looking down they could get the appearance, but when you never select,

we on our job, man. But that's it, man. We just want to come and hit you all to day with some general conversation man, and just kind of give you all the state of the union on what's going on around here and how stuff is about to change for the Everything is gonna be tight, man. We gotta Um. I'm sure it's gonna be produced a lot different both audio ys and audio ys and visually on the video side. Um, I can't wait. Man. It's a lot of exciting stuff. Man.

Me and you go have some decisions to make. But I think you know, like we see what God got playing for us, man, and you know my heart, I want to say this, man. We all live a certain kind of life, right m We try to better ourselves, and I think people should do more applauding for for us that want to better themselves and live life. Now that I respect life, I'm losing life. I just buried another hunt Uh Friday. I got a phone call today

my mother best friend which I called her Auntie. She's been my mama best friend before we was even born. Our families are linked like this, and they just they just pulled her plug. Today. I just lost one of my club brothers. Spiked rest in peace, bro. Uh. Last night a very good friend of mine on the bike said named Kenny Red. Uh. Yeah, rest in peace to you too. O. G um Ryding's bike home from Oakland from the Oakland Run and uh got down to twenty miles an hour and just fell off his bike and

he passed away. But what I want to say is, you know, with all this BS and all this bullshit, people were going at each other and this and that, everybody gotta just pay attention to We're losing light, We're losing our family, we're losing our friends, and we should be doing bigger and better things than than bringing each other down and fighting each other over BS. Because this ship right here really hurts, and it hits home. When

it hits home, then people understand it. So what I say is, man, bless the people around you, and let the people you funk with, let them know you love them. Because tomorrow and I promised you feel me for these people I spoke on, I wasn't able to say my goodbyes. You know what I'm saying, My auntie when I walked into the hospital, when I walked in there, she she she passed right right then and there. Um man, I

took too long to go in there. I took too long, and I didn't want to see another one of my mother's sisters died, just buried my other untie seven months ago. And when I got the courage to go in there, she was just just sitting there and then bam and the lady came in. I'm like, she gone. She's like yet she just went And it was like funk if I was just had. And that's how life treats us. Man. It's like I always tell my kids, you don't have as much time as you think. And on that note, man,

we're gonna shut it down. Man. We appreciate all y'all out there. Man, if you're listening to the show and shaking me in on it, Man, y'all make sure we can start putting stuff on YouTube beginning. Man, I got a different way that we're doing the show now, like I said, so you guys go like it. Man, do you want to look out two weeks man for the World from her new season Kings Chronicles and We Out of Here Pace spacey h