Kxng Crooked's Truth:Did Joe Budden sabotage Slaughterhouse?

I don't think you know Eight. I've been hitting the homie up on motherfucking Twitter everywhere, Dog trying to get this. He's been just nagging a nigga, just this exclusive. And if you I guess he said, he finally said, fuck it, I'm gonna go and see this square here nigga, Na you know that you soon as you called, I was with it. No, yeah, no, he was here. Man, No problems.

I'll be here. Man. We ain't got no, we ain't got no bad We got no bad reputation or issues with my boy Crook and everything is all is all gravy. So glad to have you're on the show, man, Man, Glad to be here. Thanks to invite me to the party. Man, I'm on the gainst the Chronicles. We're gonna talk about some gangster shit. Oh no, man, you know what, Man, Actually the Gangster Chronicles is expanding a little bit beyond just the normal gangster ship. Dog. We touched on some

everything dogs. You know what I'm saying. We got to show people that, you know, even though we come from the streets, you know, people be questioning our intelligence, you know, like we don't have the brains or we don't have the knowings to have decent conversations or in depth stuff to talk about that we ain't up on current events or just the culture of things. You know, people look at us and just a neighborhood gang and rapping and gun toting and that's it. You know, vocabulary is kind

of small. So we like to show people that our brains can venture more than just talking about what we did growing up in the streets. You know what I'm saying that our cognitive abilities are not subpart but on the whole another level. You know what I'm saying, Hey, if they must ain't listen to them albums, you know they should have knew how sharp it was was going down. Yeah, it show because it show ain't easy, man, And this

is what I want to do. I want to go back to the beginning a little bit Man, east Side Alone Beach, California to the east Side Jill l right, p Nate Dog the Greatest. Oh yeah for sure. Ain't nobody even closer? Man, Auto two can't even fade him. Man, they were special when they get on your record, Dog, you was liably go from sitling possibly one hundred thousand units of possibly going platinum. Dog. I was so mad when they when they kicked me off of Virsion Records.

You know what I'm saying, because I had my first single was Nate Me and Nate battle Kat produced it. It was called this is for the Crooking Me, This is for the Krug that's seen me. Babe. Yeah, God, I was gate. I was only like eighteen nineteen. I was ready to come back. Yeah, fire man. They came in with a brown bag and said, everybody darker than this bad get out to build it. Janet Jackson, Yeah, for sure, I remember that time when it happened. You know,

it's crazy the Dog. I don't think people understand this. Dog. Nate really made a difference on your record. He impacted your sales absolutely. Nate got on that motherfucking yes, it was over. It was radio all day radio. I remember one year we added the Powerhouse. I was up there with high seeing quick okay, and Nate came off to that motherfucker dog and did a met lead of hooks and when I tell you, he turned the whole motherfucking show out. Just hooks, just with hooks, My nigga, was

the craziest thing. He was up there for about twenty minutes dog doing nothing but back to back hooks. Wow, nothing but back to back hooks, and everybody was going crazy and could Nobody whoever came on after him was kind of like you was kind of whatever. They just shut this most sit down with the hook master definitely. You know you being from Long Beach, Version was your

first label. That was the first label that she was on, right, yeah, I mean you know the first major The first label I was on was Muscle Record and that was an independent label owned by Chuckie Miller and Russell. Yeah. They both went to the NFL man and they came back and opened up a label on the East Side, and that was the first label that I was on. I gotta give it to them because they gave me my

first shot. You know what I'm saying. Oh yeah, for sure, you definitely have to go back man to the people that believed in you first and get them they props and the Russell was the ship. Yeah, I played against eight ball, Me and this niggative yall can't see on camera my homeboys sitting across the room. We played against eight ball and I hit him in the backfield. One played Dog and I thought my shoulder is separated. He would feel like a tank coming through their up. Yeah. Yeah,

he laid power on swimming over the offensive linement. Dog thoughts don't making hill of a play. I tackled him, Dog, but my shoulder wasn't right to this day, Dog, after I hit that big eight ball and no joke, man, you know, the city turned out a lot of great football players. Man, Polly High is really Oh definitely, it's definitely to leave one of them spots, you know what I mean, Lone beast. Probably before Bosco took over. Bosco

kind of with Bosco did Dog all the kids. Because my son wanted to go to Polly and he was a five star crew um. He wanted to go to Long Beach. Probably Ill said hell, no, why for you? Man? You know what, Dog, I worked hard to get. I ain't gonna even say nothing about that one. No, But you know what, maybe he didn't want him to follow in his footsteps, is that I don't want muse. I remember, I remember the ship I was down. Yeah, I remember, shit,

I was doing a long Beast California. When I first touched down to California, when I was like his age and very impressionable. I ain't gonna lie, dog, the streets was fun as a motherfucker. Right, it was fun. It was exciting and ticon un to them popos, and one start coming, nigga started shooting at you. That's when that ship get a little different. Oh yeah, to get a little different than Yeah. You know, so when you signed this deal with Chucky and eight Ball, how were you

at the time, seventeen waiting to turn eighteen, seventeen years old. Yeah, and so that's your first that was your first time with the actual studio and everything like that. So well, it wasn't my first time in actual studio. Man. I was one of my moms used to sing, right, my mother from Oklahoma. You know what I'm saying. And her and her twin sister, my aunt Charline rest in pH They had a group man and they used to do backup singing for the gap bands, do you know what

I'm saying. And they came out here to chase their dream down, you know what I mean. And then my mom ended up having kids. My mom met my pops um in Long Beach. He was he was stationed there. He was in the Navy, you know what I'm saying. So she always I wanted to wrap since I was eight, you know what I'm saying. So she put me in the studio when I was eight years old. That was the first time I won the studio. I did a song called the Controller. What I'm saying, microphone controller, you

know what I mean. So you eight years old talking about you the microphone control I spelled the beat is a hammer, the rhythms and nail. You know. I was sitting there like that with eight years old, you know. So shout out to my mother for always believing in me and trying to push me. We didn't have much, but she just she did the best she could. You know what I'm saying. My mom's you know, bless my mom's. They they wasn't for it. They was not for the rap shit in the beginning. You know, it was in

the streets hard. So that was like another motherfucking level of being in the streets to them. You get me my mom's and them from Gulfport, Mississippi. So when they heard the nigga around there playing that ship and then they was like, you know because my wraps, I wasn't a controller. You know, we was talking about five old came through last night, So so went to jail, So and so came through so and so blasted all right.

So when she was here and that, she was like, oh, hell no, yeah, nigga, you get to go do something. You ain't feel that it was it was. It was, you know, had to sneak out and do type of shit. On my end, it wasn't really supported, you know, especially coming from motherfuckers who was hard working people, you know what I'm saying, coming from the South, like like music musicians and not like a pipe dream. We worked like around this motherfucker yea, you know, the starting artist exactly

like that shit ain't gonna work you dreaming. Hell yeah, it was. It was good that you know, music had you know, developed a little bit by your time that your mom's could see, you know, the talent that you had, was ready to investing you going to the studios. Ship. I wish my mom would have put me in the studio. You gotta think there was the eighties, right, Yeah, there was the eighties. There wasn't nobody because they were saying

this shit wasn't go. Last dog he was seeing rap was go just a fast Yeah, he said it was a fast six. It was hard danging around this motherfucker. I'm tally real, I'm done. I don't give a fuck. Fresh Fast days in Long Beach to digging I'm talking about. It was hard bag this motherfuck real talk. Yeah, the eighties was man. Listen man, eighties croker sacks. Man, they're very curls. It was hard back high school, fighting with the niggas, hopping the back fence, all that type of shit. Man.

I didn't we didn't know nothing. When you talk about the fucking fresh Fast, that was a Loane Beach, I believe, and I remember when that ship happened. Dog, it was cracking. It was motherfucker's getting robbed in the parking lot, motherfuckers getting beat up because you think about it, everybody from La had congregated a pump that set a pumlane beach that day, right, and so you had a number of different niggas from everywhere else. They alone Beach numb A,

Long Beaches one of them type of cities. Long Beaches are all blue city. For all those that don't know out there ain't number of crips them, one ain't number of crips. And then you got some moines and you got the Mexican homies, right, and that's and that's it. And it's not that big of them. It's a big city, but it's close knit. Yeah, absolutely, it's close knit. And that was the thing when I first came to California.

Ill touched down out here in eighty eight and had been coming out to visit a few summers before they because I got some people out of here, right, So I've been coming since like eighty five eighty six, right, Yeah, And when I tell you that, it was like the gangster ship was just at this full apex at that time. Yeah, because I came out here, dog and the nigga needed to get some money because I didn't have a family, you know, I most niggas get support from the crib.

I didn't have nobody sending me a bag. I came out to this motherfucker with fifty dollars in my pocket, dog and a couple pair of pants. Like, nigga, you know, you got to go make your way in this world, right, So I got out here the quickest way I saw to get this some money. Man. The homie put a sack in my hand. In the gap, I said, this was a spot had it was, this is what a spot had, and that's what it was. Yeah, man, I mean shit. We was too young to get jobs, you

know what I'm saying. We couldn't legally work, so we had to find ways to get money, you know what I mean. It wasn't like I could go get a fucking job. But I knew I was poor, you know what I'm saying. I knew that I didn't want to keep wearing these fucking thirst store clothes that my moms could afford. You know what I'm saying. We was so poor, nigga, we used to switch the tags on the first store clothed nigga. Damn, you know what I'm saying. Like we was,

we was below the poverty line. So I figured out that money was very necessary early in my life, probably when I should have just been a kid having fun on the skateboard, you know what I mean. And then I got siblings, so you know, once Pop bounced out, it was on me and my older brother to hold everything down, you know what I mean. My older brothers start cooking in the kitchen, you know, doing this thing

with the wrist work, you know what I'm saying. And he's taught me, you know the game on that I mean, Nigga say, we didn't know shit. We got theamn. We knew at five six years old. We pos mother if we pours the disrespect to the strugglers. But God, David, like she, like you said, you supposed to be a kid having happy times watching cartoons on the weekend that you picked up. Like Nigga, it's cold and its mother.

We pour as fuck. We didn't even have utility sometimes, dog, I had to go out there and turn the electric back on and learn how to turn my electric gass on, my water on. I could do all that, even when they take the water meter. You're going you cut two inner tubes from the bicycle and you put them on there you twist their motherfucking hanger around. The motherfucker's cut your water back on, like poor, poor, poor my nigga, and they come back right now, they're come back. They

come back and shut that motherfucker off. You better fill up while you can make. You make you appreciate shit today. Man like niggas be always you know, I get it, thiggas be on the rich rich shit and whatever. But you got to be able to appreciate. Motherfucker. I turned my lights on every fucking day, and give me. I can open my front door every day, you know what I'm saying. I can eat every day and eat comfortably. You know what I'm saying. I can wear what I

want to wear. But to be able to steal, maintain, and not forget where you came from. You know, that's the type of motherfucker I am, right. I try to not you know, be too fancy with it. You know, coming from being an entertainer and all that, you know, sometimes you get lost in that ship. You know, you try to fit in with certain motherfuckers because you believe that's what you should be doing as a rapper. But you know, I've been I've always been a type of

motherfucking Don't get me wrong. You lose yourself every now and then, you know what I'm saying, And then you come back to reality and I'm grateful for that, you know, and strong days in poorer days, because now nigga can hand you a couple of hundred thousand or whatever, and you don't how to be smart with shit. I mean,

necessities is everything. You know. Flossing is one thing, but being able to take care of your family, your kids, lights, stay on, food on the table, kids can do basically whatever they want to do as far as you know, not being you know, alienated, growing up being a poor kid. Yeah yeah, motheruckers. Just going to school with motherfuckers and you'd be feeling a little out of place. Motherfucker's got on the guests this and against that. You know that

was back in our days. You know, motherfucker's flossing and we're looking like damn and you wearing the same shit every day, trying to rotate that motherfucker trying to figure out the rotation. And it's always a motherfucking the school that got jokes to figure out your rotation. Nigga, I know what you're doing. You just want that same shit Friday, and you can wear this again Friday. Just motherfuckers, you

want to just punch the motherfucker's in the mouth. How about when they tell you they get your brother had that outfit? Oh yeah, yeah. It's always a mother fuck with jokes that don't figure it out the whole motherfucking play. But going back to this, after you had the situation with them, what was next? What happened next? After I did Muscle Records, Um, I was bobbing down the street.

I was on Atlantic Avenue, man, I was on my way to go see my dude Fudgelow and be Tip and and they was making some music for Warren was They was making ideas to pitch the Warren and Warren Warren was just coming up you know what I'm saying in the game. And I was mobbing over there to go, you know, come up with some music ideas with them and all that, and my homie Big C Style pulled up on me and Big Style was like, yo, I've been looking for you. Man. We got this compilation called

nineteen Street Compilation. So I was like, okay, nineteen Street Compilation. I was like, all right, cool. So I was like He was like, get in. We were recording that soundcastle. Now the soundcastle was like a million dollars studio, and you know, me and my brother Dice, we mob and we broke hungry. So we jumped into the car. Lt. Hutton was in there eating a piece of chicken. Nigga had an s crall on his head. Now that nigga like one of the biggest producers. You know the kind

of shit. You know what I'm saying. Man, We jumped in and went to the studio. We did this, We did it. I asked him. I was like, Yo, how many songs can I be on? I see y'all almost done? He said, you could be on as many as you want. Then I jumped on ten joints. That's how hungry I was, you know what I'm saying. In a matter like two days, I was on ten songs and then that can that came out and uh some. My man Malik, my man Malik Levy. He had this deal called Capital Punishment at

Capital Records. He had this label. They had these dudes over there, um called damn All we do with smoke mad is them Channel Channel Jaris went on it. You know what I'm saying, So that was Malik in them. They was moving at some Malik he came through and he heard the compilation, was like, man, I could get y'all the situation. You know what I'm saying, So Virgin. That's when Virgin came in through New Trot, New Troy, you know what I'm saying with Eric, and they was

over there. You know, the Looneys had just blew up what I got five on here there rapping out over here at that time was a lot over there. They had m you know, ben Zeno on them, has some shit going on over there, and Face Mob was over there. So it was you know, they came in and it's so funny because you know, I was a super technical rapper, you know what I mean. Because I listened to Big Daddy, Kane and Rock Him and Kogi rapping all of them,

and I was like, man, all of the greats. Yeah, I was like, dog, how can I get my skill my skills together? You know what I'm saying. And because the old dude told me, He's like, you want to you want to stop being poor. You gotta find something you good at and stick to it. And I was like, you know what I'm gonna try to really push my pen so sometimes you know, the home be like, man, I don't know what you was talking about because that

shit sound hard though, you know what I'm saying. But it was like I was rap, you know what I'm saying. So um, it was just crazy. When the when the nars from from New Tribe and them came into the to the studio, they was like, who is that little nigga right there? You know what I'm saying. And off of the compilation, they gave me a solo deal, you know what I'm saying. And that's how I got the solo deal. Walked into the Virgin Records. Man, I was

just a young dude. Man, I was living on Lyndon Avenue, you know what I'm saying. And it was like a big boardroom with people in suits and ties and signing the contract and taking pictures and shaking hands with people, and you know what I'm saying. It was a It was a big deal for me because at that point I thought I made it. I didn't know that it's a whole lot more to go after you get a record deal. But I ended up over there. We did

a dope ass album. I had the Dog Pound on there and Naked Dog on there, and Battlecat did a lot of production. LT did production, Dash did production. And they said somebody was embezzling in the Urban Department or something like that, so they just shut down the whole Urban Department right when my album was ready to go. I thought I was about to come out and serve it, you know what I'm saying. But they shut it down. And uh, it was cool because they let me step

with my masters and they ain't. So you got to walk away with that album. I got to walk away with the album, and I got to walk away, you know what I mean. They didn't. They didn't say, you know, the recoupment. All that was. You got to keep the advance and all that. Let me ask you this, as a poor kid coming up a long beach man from the ghetto like so many of us, what did you do when you first got to check man? What's the

first thing you did? Though? First thing I did? Dog I went and um, I went and got a car. You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't got a car. I put some beat in it, you know, of course, and then um, I ain't got an apartment and I went moved to Bigsby Nose like I thought, I made it. That's what niggas. When the nigga long beast make it, he goes to the Bixby Nose, A bill my short with the big feet like the cop that they could go in to Serdos or some ships. Is it? They

had a mode up the ladder digger. Hell yeah, niggas up the motherfucking row. So you go through that situation. Did you ever put that project out? Never came out? You had the masters, though you could have won to deal what she wanted to with that. I didn't know what we didn't We didn't know that ship back then. We didn't know about I got my masters. I didn't go independent. Right now, I'm pressing up a few copies. See if you'd ran acros I was busy playing football. No,

I was dune playing football. You're way younger than me. But you'd ran across the nigga like me. That album. Damn ship didn't come to the the head. I'd already had a full strategy for that motherfucker. I had a lot of mentors, dog, but a lot of them didn't know the business business exactly. You see what I'm saying, so it was like, damn, I look back, like, yeah, you know, it took a lot of us to get fucked over to learn the business. Yes, yeah, that's I mean, that's

what it takes. I mean, we got we hear that's saying all the time. Oh you're gonna get fucked Yeah, you come through the door. Yeah, it's just no if fans your buts. Yeah, it's what you learn from that fucking It's how you maintain and how you maneuver and actually ship. That's life, dog. It's like you constantly learning, even now as an older man. Right, It's certain experiences I go through and I chalk him up his lessons.

Like even when something go bad, I say, you know what, thank god, you know that was another lesson right there. We don't fail, we learn for sure. And so you got this situation. By now you got an incredible buzz because I heard it. I started hearing about you during that period when a nineteen Street compilation came out and everything, and people were saying, man, it's a dude, long beach. It's harder than rock him, you know what I mean, And people was talking about you in that regard. It

made me definitely go check in on it. Right, So when did you start fucking with the row? Fucking with the Row? Well, after that situation went back independent. You know what I'm saying. I'm at I'm at Kinko's making my own mixtape covers. See see that. See the young people, they don't know, they don't know about that grind. You

know what I'm saying. We was, We was going to studio, buying studio time, you know, putting, putting projects together, doing our own album covers, pressing our own stuff up, you know what I'm saying, and hand to hand trying to get them off, you know what I'm saying. So I was doing that and then I met some dudes from from from Texas and they had a little independent label. So I went down there and wrote for all their artists, you know what I mean. And I was keeping me

and that was keeping me afloat, you know. I was just pinning for all their artists and I was keeping me right. And then I got a knock on my door and it was a big style and dads. They had Dog Pound Records through Death Row, and they was like, yo, we want you to come to death Row with us. You know what I'm saying, And I was like, Okay, what's going down. It was like, yeah, we got to meet with Shug. Shug was locked up. He was in Mule Creek, and I was like, all right, cool, so

flew up to go see Shugar. Now I come in after them. I get to I get to Sacramento. Shug got a tahoe that he'd been paying for at the airport for his whole time he was incarcerating, you know, airport parking as high as a motherfucker. So he paying for this motherfucker for years for everybody who come to visit him. So you jump into tahole, you know what I'm saying. Reggie was driving and we went up to uh to go see Shug, and we stopped in the middle of nowhere, and I didn't know what was going on.

And I was like, man, well he stopped. Reggie jumped out and got on the cell phone. He got back in his whole mood change. I was like, man, what the fuck is going on? You know what I'm saying, I'm I'm thinking about an exit strategy. Shit, I know, death row reputation. You don't know you're going on in the middle of nowhere. Let me ask you this. I know we're from different sides. Yeah, snooped the party at that time at the party, Okay, Now that's ay made

it extra weird for you. You You stopped off from the middle of nowhere, a young chryp nigga from Long I'm just I'm just I'm just just a neutral, neutral nigga. That dad got a whole bunch of a whole bunch of seas in my family. You know what I'm saying. Take that back. I shouldn't have said, because I mean, you know, just to be from the city, we grew up like this, you know what I mean, Like this is what it is. But um, you know. Yeah. So man, they stopped in the middle of nowhere. I'm like, dude,

what's the fuck is popping right here? And he get back in mood. Change. Next thing, you know, he looking at me through the rear view. He's like, hey, man, something happened up there at the up there at to jail. I said, what happened your home boys they got into it with should I said what? They's like He's like, yeah, it's all bad. He gonna tell you about it when you get there. So I'm like, oh shit, so this is my first time going to really really sit down

and talk to him about about the record deal. So he don't feel out. But there's msn't big Stown man. They got hit to it with him, you know what I'm saying, And uh, it was ugly. So when they say that, I can assume that when they got into it with him, they expected you to say fuck this something not fucking with this nigga. Now they got into it so cold. They forgot I was coming that day, so they didn't even know. So I went up in there and should like, so, what's happening. You're riding with

your homies? I said, first of all, what were we talking about? Blah blah, this blah blah, and they told me ran it down. I was like, for real. I was like, dog, I'm gonna call I'm gonna call Big Style, see what's going on with this? You know what I'm saying. So I can't. I got back to the city. We went over an house that was the home girl. Everybody used to be over an housing on a buss bowl, So you know, I pulled up to a biss boat. As soon as I pulled up, Big Styles start cracking up.

I forgot your ass. What's going up there too? Oh shit? Did they tell you what happened? I said, yeah, they told me what happened. He said, he says Simon hot huh. I was like, yeah, sure hotgg. He was like yeah, man, you know we had we had some words. He said, you know, it's all good. I was like, yeah, So what y'all gonna do? He was like, man, we ain't gonna do the dog Pound records over there. So I was like, I ain't gonna do it. He's like nah.

I was like damn. I said, they want me to come back up there though, and he was like, shit, go up there, see what they're talking about. See if they got some bread. So I went back and she was like, hey, I can make you a movie star. I could put you in get you Grammys, I can have your billboards everywhere. I'm gonna have you on front of magazines and all that. And I was like, hey, let's do this. Because I had actually went and visited

Dre before. You know what I'm saying, I had said with Dre for a minute, and Drey was working on King T album, and you know what I'm saying, I got on that album. I did a song with Dove C and Bull Rock, and you know, I wanted to go on Aftermath exactly. You know what I'm saying. I was like, shit, doctor Dre. You know you know what

that stamp about. You know what I'm saying. So I wanted to I wanted to be on Aftermath, but he had just found him and he was like, yo, you know, the basic premise of it was he gotta do the King T Ship the m Ship and then we could figure something out, you know after that. And then Sugar was like, nig I got to check for you right here. So I was just like, yo, you know what, I'm a kid with a kid at this point, you know

what I'm saying. And I'm like, yo, I take this money, I take this fans, but it's in your face, yeah, right, like I ain't no talking, and you know we're gonna see what's up. It makes a difference when the nigga go there. It is right there there, it is right there. He said, he said, you're gonna be able to kick your feet up, and I was like, yo, you know what, I gotta take it. And then you know, to me, sug had an ear for talent, you know, what I mean.

He had an ear for talent. Anyway, Death Row was a historic label on the West Coast, even though everybody had departed in two podcasts passed away unfortunately. Um, it felt like a challenge to me, like, yo, if we can get this backpopping, you know my legacy of BC minute and being concrete, you know what I'm saying. So I just went on ahead and took the deal. And I was on the road. Niggas gave me two Death Row chains of platinum platinum one and a gold one,

you know what I'm saying. And next thing you know, I'm driving around and bends his own spree whales, you know what I'm saying, and hitting the studio track record and we just recording recording with everybody, you know what I mean, and making albums man. And it was crazy. And because child was still locked up and then he got out. Now I knew what this time, man, Like I said, Alone, Beach is a real close knit city,

right are you? You know the situations that Snoop and Dads and then went through when they first left the Row, it was a whole bunch of shit cracking. Oh yeah, did you ever get caught up in the middle of all that stuff. Oh yeah, I got caught up in it, you know what I'm saying, Like death Row had a lot of ops. Oh yeah, a lot, you know what I'm saying. And they wasn't trying. They hear none of

that old hey man, I'm just rapping over there. They don't want to hear that shit, you know what I'm saying. So you know, we got into it a lot, man. We got no brawls, shootouts, you know what I'm saying. Like niggas following me around lake woo them all, you know what I mean, trying to get that chain off me, you know what I'm saying. And niggas, niggas threating the

kidding that my kids. Thug behind that ship. Who got that crazy though crazy it got it, got it shit get crazy, man, especially when you not like you said, I'm not affiliated, but when you associated it don't give nigga you buy as well be. We don't give a fuck. Yeah, we don't get. We don't. We don't get. And like I telled, niggas in this ship, you could be cool with everybody, but it's just motherfucker's who just don't give

a fuck. Fuck. Yeah, you don't care if he crooked and he cool and he just wrapped in this ship. This nigga got death roll chain though. Yeah, that means it's own goal. The niggas don't give a foot, you know what I'm saying. It's like the thing heel is man with all this shit. Man, motherfucker's always try to trag the street elements to some shit. Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you something that this is something that a lot of people learn. The horrid one gorillas belong in

the jungle. My nigga businessmen belong in the business in the boardroom. You feel what I'm saying. Because the two just don't mix, My nigga, the two just don't Master Pete once told me, don't try to have one foot in the streets and one foot in the music business. They don't mix, though, put both feet in the music business. Yeah, but it's unfortunate for you that the environment that we grow up in and the associations that we they have had. You could go four fledge, nigga. I'm just yeah, and

still then niggas don't give a fuck. They don't care, don't they don't care. You could be two feet in business one hand, the god and whatever and niggas who knew you from the fifth grade gonna be fucked that nigga. Yeah, yeah, I went through a lot dog over there. I was over there four years, you know what I'm saying, And

I went through a whole lot over there. But I feel like, you know, that's whatever respect I got, It came from being the only long beach nigga over there and left and walking out, you know what I'm saying, and never having no you know, oh should slap truck or no, should did this? Or all of those horror stories, no horror stories, none of that, you know what I'm saying, And uh, you know that's just being I was just always myself, dog like. I just never I never switched

up nothing. Yeah. So obviously all that stuff got resolved because you've got great relationships with everybody now. Yeah, so all that stuff resolved. Some people, some people gone, some people on a permanent vacation. It's like, you know what I'm saying, and some people is is, uh, you know, we cordial again. I mean because I wasn't over there trying to kick up no dust. I was over there trying to make the greatest music I could make and change my life with the music and do what I loved.

That's what I was. I dead for records trying to do. You know what I'm saying. I wasn't over there for the other ship. But the other ship, like Shoo told me, He's like, it don't matter, It's gonna happen. Definitely, Yeah, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. You know, Christally, when you got the reputation for the label is known for we known forgetting this shit. And it's not gonna change. It ain't gonna change whether you come through the door, then get and go somewhere else. And we signed a

new nigga. Long as you are attached to death raw, it's gonna always come at you, period. So and I learned a lot. So yeah, and that's cool, and you got you know what I'm saying. It ultimately made your name even bigger. Hell yeah, shit man, dog. We went to New York, like when Shell got out, it was really popping. You know what I'm saying. Shell got out and got straight to it, you know what I mean. Billboards, We did the double X sale magazine cover Rest in

Peace Left. I was on that cover, you know what I mean. That was her last photo shoot. Johnathan Man, you shot that. Shout out to him, you know what I'm saying. We did everything every show you could think of, Jimmy Kimmel, you know what I'm saying. All the way to the East Coast. We was on Hot ninety seven. They was bumping my new single all like all that, and Shug would also allow me to sit in some of these meetings sometimes, you know what I mean, when

he was talking to power players in the industry. So I was learning about the game by just sitting there soaking it up, you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't all bad. It was. It wasn't all bad, you know. But I feel like since he was kind of blackballed, that we couldn't really put out no hits, you know what I mean. And sometime hits make off all the negativity.

You overlooked the negativity because the hits is coming. But if you ain't got no hits, then we're just looking at all the bullshit that's going on and being like, Nigga, this is some bullshit, you know what I'm saying. Because we didn't have no we didn't have no way to really distribute our ship. You know, he wasn't going for the independent game. Should wanted to sell millions of records, because that's what he was using. You know, I'm pretty sure coming from the heights of he's came from Bow,

he wasn't trying to see nothing less than that. Yeah, like he won and all that. When we went over there, when they was doing projections and all that, he wasn't feeling it what I'm saying, because he came from a situation where he was used to selling millions and millions of records, you know what I mean. And the game was changing. He went in, he was like one or two, you know, hip hop moguls. He came out, it was full five and motherfucker's exactly. You know what I'm saying.

The game had changed up. Yeah, just that quick, man, just that quick. Now. The Jarl was solve your situation amicably. Yeah. We didn't see out when I when I left, you know what I'm saying, I was like, it's time for me to go because wasn't no music because decision or was it a contract short decision? Well, the contract was up. Okay, I did I did you know the four years. We had a four year contract. I did the four year contract. Contract was up. They wanted me to resign and I

was like, yo, you know what, I'm ready. I gotta bounce. I need to put music out. Time is I can't get this time back, you know what I'm saying. And we was doing little shit like we did uh Dysfunctional Family, Eddie Griffin, he had this movie. We did the whole soundtrack. I helped co produce most of the whole damn soundtrack, you know what I'm saying. We had a lot of

players on there. Murder Ink came into play murder inc. EARV Gotti came in, was like, well, look he kind of I think he kind of knew Sugars hands was tied to a certain extent. So Herv was like, Yo, we'll take Krook and you know, we'll put them up where you need to be, you know what I'm saying. So so you almost wanted them murdering. So it was almost a death Row Murderinc On my album. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's why I did the Baby

remix with a Shanty. You know, when she did the Baby song and went number one, I did the remix first time I was number one on them, one or six apart. You know what I'm saying, And you know, er, I gotta say this. You know, EARV kept it real. Not too many people. A lot of people always was talking to me in the industry like yeah, I do this with you, I do that with you, and they they go ghost you don't even see him no more, or it's just Hollywood shit, like yeah, man, we gotta

make sure we do this. You know, just a lot of Hollywood shit. But HERB was like, listen, you want the hardest niggers I heard ever. I'm gonna make sure your ship shake. He's like, we got the number one record over here, you're getting on the remix. I left the studio. I was like, hey, cool, that's what he's saying. Next day, I was in the booth. Right after that, I was at the at the video shoot. Right after that,

I was coming out on a shanty set. Why she had thirty thousand people in the crowd rocking my verse. You feel me like he kept it all the way one hunting, you know what I mean. And I appreciated that, you know what I mean. But when that case hit, everything scattered remember when yeah, they got they got hit. What they It's almost like that was a concerted effort from law enforcement. Really the ship off, you know, the three powerful black labels, because you gotta remember Rap a

Lot Records was involved in that. They didn't get cracked like they're the cast d though they got sugar and they got herb. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Definitely yeah, And it was like it was trippy man and being you know, when I'm being on the road, they was really trying to blackball. I would show up to concerts by myself and they'd be like, nah, we can't let you in. You know what I'm saying, Like as artists here performing that said, if we let you in, they're

not performing. I ain't never even met did nothing to these niggas well, you know what it was during that time, Crook. I think the industry as a whole, because I think everybody in this room heard about the mass whoopings that was being passed out. I'm talking about grown niggas putting their hands on other grown niggas, you know, not just beat downs, but really defiling niggas. Man pissing on niggas and you know, just all that shit come running up

in niggas cribs and all that just crazy stuff. Dog. If they got to a time and I'm gonna tell you some dog, I don't give a fuck how bad and nigga think his reputation he was in the street, right, it ain't no motherfucker batter than the federal government, my nigga. But motherfuckers get tired of your ass and you think you could walk around, you're putting your hands on motherfucker's dog and doing all this crazy shit. After while, the people with the pipical start going, U, we got something

for your ass, right, We're not alone it no more. Now, I'll be telling you, since that time, you ain't heard about no niggas running up in no labels like they used to back then. That ship is not working. Dog. You just can't force some motherfucker security. Yeah, they're not letting motherfucker's in their buildings no more like that. That shit stopped and they just changed that game. Man, that that that behavior has changed the game because we weren't

taking that bullshit. Nigga's got tired of getting robbed. Because I'm gonna tell you, dog, I'm gonna tell you like this, Like I tell everybody else, Man, that small world that's in the streets, that's really not reality. They live outside the skibble with reality yields. Motherfucker's is getting niggas locked the fuck up, dog Man, dog locked all the way up, you know. And and and you know, after that ship, I was seeing a noticeable difference in the industry, how

people was moving around, you know what I'm saying. With the security, like A said, with the motherfucking you gotta have a code to get inside the building. You gotta have a key card to go up the elevator. Like everything was changing. You can't just run up in them offices talking all that shit no more, you know, because it's not real healthy dog and only niggas bring that type of ship. You don't never hear about no rock star. Motherfucker's doing no crazy shit like that, you know what

I'm saying. They said they dispute in the boardroom and the lawyer, you know, the courthouse man, because I mean, you know, payola and all that wasn't really created by us. Well, yeah, we talked about baseball bats. Yeah you know what I yeah, it was going in play this check this out. They was only coming with baseball batsto dog when that's not a month he didn't work. Yeah, when the money didn't work,

you know, when the money coming with the mother shit. Yeah, but you know because that's what I mean, you know how to go, man, Like these niggas was in there. Man, they trying to get this money off these spins. Man, they weren't taking no for an answer. You know, industry was on some gangster shit. If you asked me no, let me ask you this and this. Because I'm trying to like a speaking pass a lot of shit. So when when is the last time you actually talked to Sugar? Like,

how did y'all leave it? Did you talk to him after he got into the situation with Old Boy when he ran the brother over? I talked to him right before then. That was the last time I spoke to him. I talked to him right before then. Um, I was filming the show. I did this show called One Shot. I created it for BT in twenty fifteen. UM. It came out in twenty fifteen. UM. It was a It was a platform that I built for independent artists. We went around the world, went around America just trying to

find new rappers. Right, you know what I'm saying. And then you know, whoever win the contest get a hundred thousand dollars and an independent record deal. You know what I'm saying. So I was in Miami shooting the Miami episode. I had Callett. It was cracking, it was real, it was real cool and um I had Swede hosting it and all that shit. And I got a call and was shug The should was like, yo, was hattening. I said, oh man, I'm chilling. I'm in Miami. He's like, okay, okay, okay.

I thought you was out here. Man, I was gonna ask you to do something. But you in Miami, Man, what you're doing out there? I was like, oh man, I'm just filming the show. You know what I'm saying, Just doing my thing. He was like, A right, all right. We had a little conversation, man, and left it at that.

But before then, you know, when I first left the judge because they took they took me to court, The label took me to court, and you know, try to say, you know, I guess the legal department was like yo, it was trying to stop me from being able to leave. You know what I'm saying, so you old, some more old old, some more records and all this kind of shit. So I went to court and the craziest shit happened. I already knew. I was like, oh shit, and they go,

I'm good. I walked in because I'll be you ever believe in signs or something like that. So I walked in and the judge name was Judge good Man, and I looked at that shit. I was like, okay, And then they were saying, you know, they sighed was saying that, you know, I still owe some records and blah blah blah blah blah, you know what I mean. And they was trying to say that, you know, they had me under a new contract, and I was like, yo, I

already knew. It's like impossible to prove because I believe the FEDS had already raided the building at that point and they had took all the paperwork away. So it was like I couldn't even tell you know what I'm saying, like they came in and took all the computers and everything when they raided Death Row. But anyway, the judge winked at me. I already knew. I was like Okay, I'm good, you know what I'm saying. And he was like, Yo, y'all gotta pay him back for his legal fees. Y'all

gotta pay him back for this. He put a business gag order on him because he's like, I don't want nobody going to Universal Warner soon. He's saying that this man, it's still on y'all label to intimidate nobody in the business from doing any worked with him. If I hear about it, it's gonna be a quarter million dollars fine on you. Like he just threw the whole shit at him, and you know, shouldn't like that, you know what I'm saying.

He didn't like that, man, And and I was like, I gotta go talk to this nigga man because people were saying stuff like like man should said wawawa, I anna work? You know what I'm saying. So I was on sunset one night when my god brother Jim get him, and uh, I see should stand outside with like four or five dudes. It was just me and Jim, But I was like, dog, let's swoop up on him real quick, jumped out, sure what was happening? Oh crook, come here, man?

I say, yo, what's going down. He was like, oh, he said some things right. I ain't gonna say what he said, but he said some things, and I said some things right, and he started laughing. He said, that's why I always fucked with you, because you crazy as a motherfucker. And I was like, man, you know, niggas just trying to do his business. You know what I'm saying, That's just what it is. And after that we shook hands, right, and it wasn't no more. Nothing was a gray area

no more. After that, you know what I mean, I start seeing him at parties. You know, I go holler at him for a second, you know, go do my thing. And you know, he had called me when I signed The Shady and he hit me up. He was like, listen, I'm glad you with the white boy. That's what he called him. You know, he's I'm glad you with the white boy because he understand lyricism. He was like, he

understand lyricism. You know, a lot of these these record labels they don't know what to do with a real lyricist. But I feel like Eminem know what to do with a real lyricist. You know what it's funny that you go into this situation now with Shady because then that was the formation. You guys have formed Slaughterhouse by this time, right, you guys formed Slaughterhouse by this time. It was a lot of excitement and a lot of anticipation around that. How did that get blown in this array? How did

it get blown into this array? Not being on the same page, you know what I'm saying, Like, we wasn't the four dudes who was in the trenches with each other, right, you know what I mean? And or Nigga Sambox niggas. You know what I'm saying. We was put together. We came together, the fans put us together. We was We was taking advantage of the internet, bro, That's what it was. I figured out a way to really pop off on the internet. Joe figured out a way. Royce figured out

that Joel. So when we came together and did that one song, the Internet crash and it was like, oh shit, let's do another one. I flew to New York. We did another one. And then when I was in New York, they was like, Yo, let's just do a group. We did a group. We went on E one. But the first album E one really didn't think that we was gonna mount to nothing. They like, all these lyrical miracle niggas ain't gonna do nothing. So they ain't really press

up much many copies, you know what I'm saying. That's back when there was pressed the CDs and we sold out in the first two hours, you know what I'm saying. And then they was like damn. They was like, yo, can y'all resign? We had a one album deal with them, and we was like, hell no, y'all didn't even believe in us. Why would we resign with y'all, you know what I'm saying. So we took off, got got with shady, you know what I'm saying, and uh, it was it was.

It was pretty cool. But that's when it started unraveling our specific well, I mean, I'm gonna just speak freely, you know what I'm saying, Please do. I mean, that's where we Joe Joe, but Joe Button, he my experiences were dealing with him. He's not a good person, Okay, you know what I'm saying. And that kept splashing on to the to the group. Now everybody was we was all making certain mistakes. I was drinking heavy, you know, what I'm saying. I was drinking, I was, I was

turning up, you know what I'm saying. So sometimes, but I knew how to do my job even when I was you know what I'm saying getting fucked up. I knew how to do my job. But at the same time, who want the nigga to be drunk all the goddamn time? So that's my that's me hold myself accountable for for for my actions and Slarter House, you know what I'm saying. Um, Joe was doing deal side deals, deals we didn't know about.

I mean shit, it was just side deals from himself or the group for herself, you know what I'm saying. And you know, and and and other than I don't even care about that kind of shit because we all got a hustle and grind it. We just me and him don't mix. He don't fuck with me. I don't fuck with him, you know what I'm saying. And it's like somebody that knew him told me, hey, whatever you do,

don't let Joe be Joe. And I ain't know what that meant because I was I just met him, and he was like, you're gonna find out, And I found out, you know what I'm saying. So it became a situation where I was like, you know what, I got off liquor because it wasn't serving me, it wasn't giving me any benefits, no positive benefits. I was catching ails on that ship, you know, DUIs jail, you know, cussing, motherfucker's out. I shouldn't have been getting into shit. I shouldn't have

been getting into all that type of shit. I got rid of that. I moved that out of my life. So I'm like, you know what, I gotta move this shit out of my life, you know what I'm saying, Because this this ain't even it, you know, so you gotta manu. Yeah, you have to. You gotta let it go. And it's like to stress you the fuck out when you're trying to figure out, you know, the next move, when the next move is just fuck the motherfucker. I can't mix with that motherfuckers. So it's best for me

to just not even deal with it. Yeah, and I'm not even like, you know, I'm not angry. I let the anger go, because when you're angry, it's like you're picking up a sharp knife to stab somebody. But you picked up the wrong end and cut yourself. Yeah all the time, you know what I'm saying. So I don't harbor no anger, you know what I mean for the situation,

no more. I let that all go. But it was it was just one of those things to where you know, Royce didn't want to do the three man group, just me, him and Joel when when Joe said he retired, he was bent on trying to bring Joe out of retirement and doing the four man group. But we just got to the point where me as a person growing and trying to trying to be the best version of myself, I can no longer stand next to that guy. I'm saying, I feel that and not see you guys have had

some dialogue. Yeah, and wouldn't you on this show? Yeah? The thing to pull up, y'all was on the pull up. What happened? But that that episode, like Zapp must have missed something. That episode disappeared. That episode disappeared, you know that that shit disappeared. I feel like it was a good business move for him to make that that episode go away because the conversation. I don't think the conversation went the way him and his team wanted it. To go.

So it was a good business move for just flushing down the stupid scrap that you know what I'm saying. But you know, um, Slaughterhouse could have impacted the culture. Were some dudes who knew how to rap very well. But we didn't. We didn't impact or move nothing in the ulture like we could have because we didn't grow to that space ship. Now right now, you'll look at Royce and Royce would be doing things for mental health. He'll be trying to help you know, independent artists come

up in this community. He's doing things to try to impact the culture now as a as a you know, as he's grown over the years, as he's maturing, you see what I'm saying. Slaughter House didn't get a chance to mature, be a brand and impact the culture. Yeah, because there was a hell of an opportunity though. Yeah, it was a hell of an opportunity that we had the potential to do that We could have put our people on you know what I'm saying, put people in position.

We had an enormous opportunity to just to do whatever we want to do, and we didn't do it. We just got to the phase of Megan Records touring the world and rapping like a motherfucker that was supposed to change into something more dynamic, the more meaningful. Yeah, because you had a contingent of guys who were like amongst the best rappers on the planet though, right amongst the most lyrical guys on the planet. And I was looking forward to really seeing that flourish and come to fruition. Yeah,

I was too. I tried to get it to crack off. Man, I was going and having meetings, flying to Detroit, flying to New York. I was trying to but I feel like, you know, the universe was like, why you keep trying this. We're trying to tell you they ain't gonna work for you. Yea. The universe would definitely pull your ass in the right direction when you were allowing Yeah, Doug, it's like you you you you do it too much now, you know

what I'm saying. And I felt like, you know, once I feel like you disrespecting me, it's no more making music, you know what I mean. I'm good, So you don't want to with you, so you feel disrespectful, disrespect coming in at a certain point. Absolutely absolutely when I man, I mean, listen, they say Okay, it's just a phone call. To me, it's more than a phone call. If I if I come to the table with a seven figure deal, you know what I'm saying. And you don't even have

the respect for me to return my phone call. And we got seven figures on the table, and you think it's funny because see, they always say that I was always doing a deal. O this nigga crook, always doing a deal. That's the fucking way that I survived this game. You know what I'm saying. I don't got top ten hits and all that type of ship. I've been hustling my whole time. I gotta keep making the money. I

gotta keep keep making shift flip. Like you said, I can't rely on y'all reputation me for me how to do something. My way of surviving in this game is I gotta keep making connections and shit, some niggas want you to just ride out on you. Let's just what the fuck is that phone on my ear on the tour bus? What y'all need? Y'all need some murder? A right? Cool? That's coming? What's going on over here? Oh? You want a verse from Royal? All right? Cool? Royce. They just

they go on a verse. He got them to money and Yo, I'm doing that type of shit, you know what I'm saying. And so when I brought the money to the table, it was really it was really something to test everything out. The money was real, the deal was real, or my MoMA, they had the money rating for us, you know what I'm saying. But Joe was like, I'm not calling it. I ain't talking to him. He kept seeing Royce at me, and I start getting frustrated

because I'm like just a grown man. He needed to get on the phone with me because if he because he didn't want to do the deal. If you don't want to do the deal, tell me why, Maybe maybe I could fucking go in there and get you what you want. You want more money because you got a popping podcast. All right, We're gonna get you more money because you got a popping podcast. You know what I'm saying.

What you need, you feel me? But he wouldn't even get on the phone with me, and I started feeling like Royce was enabling that disrespect by calling me and calling me and being the middleman. Quit enabling that guy until I got to jump on the phone on his own phone, hand to his own business. You know what

I'm saying, because I so. It just became to the point where I was like, you know what, I got a whole lot of love for Royce, but I gotta move away from this situation because that was the final strong I was like dog And it ended up being a blessing that I did not do it. Because after I made The Rise and Fall, a Slaughterhouse album with Joel Ortiz, more information started coming out and people was like, Okay, this happened, and that happened. You didn't know that this happened.

You didn't know this deal. You wasn't part of this deal. You didn't like all the people that was in the Slaughterhouse universe that was doing business with Slaughterhouse. They start revealing things to me that I never even knew. So I was already getting bad treatment without even fucking knowing it. You feel me. So it was like, you know what, this was a good thing. It helped my mental health a whole lot. I felt stress free after we you know, said, yo,

it's a ramp on this. You know what I'm saying. Me and Joel jumped into booth. We put out two albums. We got an EP coming out and it probably like a next Friday, so it's like we're back recording, having fun with each other, you know what I'm saying. And it was just one of those life life lessons. Dog is just a life lesson, you know what I mean. And it's you know, I wish I wish Royce all the success in the world, you know what I mean. And I don't want no harm to come to Joe.

I ran into Joe if I wanted to take off on them, Joe, I had the perfect opportunity. I ran into him in Jersey at the hotel, you know what I'm saying. After all this shit, we sat down and talked. My main message I wanted to tell him was get back to your boy maul Man because what happened with him and Mall I just didn't like that, you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, ma, I saw what Maul did for you. I saw how Maul had Joe back. I saw how he was in the trenches with you.

So for that thing unravel, how to unravel and what happened, you need to make that right with mam Man. You need to make that right with mom, So you know, I mean, I told him how it felt. I got my bars off, like, Yo, my nigga, y'all niggas, y'all thought sh was funny. Y'all was disrespecting. I get uncomfortable with niggas is disrespecting me. Yeah, yeah, don't you know what I'm saying, like the fun with funny niggas. Yeah, just just letting me know from the gate so we

can just cut it. Don't be phony with me and come into the studio and recording this shit. Just just kick it off from the gate. Then we ain't gonna have no animosity in the future. And I can go ahead and do what I gotta do. But some niggas want to play you sometimes and they want to test your manhood, but test to see what you about period, because you know, you want to stand up nigga for yourself, that's what that be. And some niggas just don't like

that ship. And then I say, we all come from the same ship because we all trying to eat together and get it in. But it's just some niggas who feel like they just above you. Don't give a fuck. Yeah, I'm just you get me when you gotta dicking balls just like me, nigga. But some niggas just feel like, because my pocket book might be a bit little bit bigger, that they should get more respect or whatever. And I have to tell niggas all the time, money don't buy

you respect, motherfucker. Yeah never you get now where we come from, at least you give no none at all where we come from. It don't give a fuck. You could have been the biggest dog dealer in the hood, all the low lows and everything, and there'd be a nigga around the corner who ain't got ship to come along and pop your motherfucking ass. That I'm looking at niggas content of their character, you know what I'm saying. That's when I'm looking at I'm just looking at the

content of the character. It sounds like somewhere along the way you got real personal dog. And you know, when you impacting other people's livelihoods, he can't. It already has a tendency to have that funny feeling to it. It's already touch you situation. But when somebody purposely doing that, dog, well, that's what I'm saying, dog like you know, it just was one of them situations and I mean it was good while it lasted, you know, but all good things must come to an end, and all bad things must

definitely come to an end. Well you know what man saying. So that was one of them bad things that just needed to happen. And she don't last forever. She gonna come to an end. Eventually, everything comes to an every everything and ship came la, whether it's good or bad. One of these days it's gonna be time to sh and do something else. If that show, that show called, you know, and even sometimes when some ship gets bigger, it evolves and the different ship. Then stuff happens though,

especially entertainment, dog, Yeah, especially entertainment. Man. But I want to kick this off to some more positive stuff dog, because you've got a lot of positive shit going on. Congratulations on that final drop that you just did or it up good looking, man looking, And if I don't drop that, you just did it man, and you have an incredible podcast man, who I'm proud to say. Man, you know we're doing some business amazing things together, me

and you and my boy Chris Moral over at law Speakers. Yeah, we're doing something to make it big man. Let's talk about that because you one of the only guys I know they was able to get the Eminem sit down and then Depth Eminem sit Down. Yeah, it was dope, and they used they used the piece of that conversation that I have with himinem Um on the program when he was inducted to the Rocket Roll. How I saw that,

Congratulations on that man. That that really made me feel cool because I know that a lot of my ship ain't clickbait, and you know, it's kind of hard to compete with all these niggas that's out here gossiping talking shit. Oh believe me, I knew you know what I'm saying, um, So you know, to see it rise to that level, let me know that I was doing the right thing. But yeah, man, Crook's corner. Like I started, I started

off with COB Radio. I had CB Radio with DJ Ski before a podcast to start blowing up, before the podcast game blew up. I had COB Radio and I did that for like a year and I liked it, but it was too much. I was doing music, I was touring, I had smarterhouses. This commitment. Sure, it was a whole lot of shit. So I was like, you

know what, I'm gonna put that down for now. But when I came back with Crook's Corner, I was just at the crib one day and I was like, damn, man, I need to talk to people about what I love. I love this hip hop shit. Let's talk about rap. So I just start getting on my ig and talk it to everybody in the room. I don't care if it was a hundred people, two hundred people. And we just started talking about rap music and hip hop and all that shit. And I let them come on my

live and we'll just have a discussion. And I called it Crook's Corner, and then that elevated to go on U Hip Hop DX. You know what I'm saying, and doing Crooks Corner over there visually with you know, interviewing people, you know, E forty, Jermaine dupri you know what I mean, all these people. And then you know, when I left DX and did it myself, it kept on getting bigger and bigger, you know what I'm saying. So I ended up, you know, with the Snoop interview. Then I ended up

with the Marshall interview. Sauce M was out here because for fifty he was doing something with fifty, and you know, he was like, Yo, I'm being in town. Let's sit down or let's do this, you know what I'm saying. So I was like cool because I know he don't give a lot of people interviews. Oh yeah, for sure, I'm saying, I haven't never seen an Eminem interview. Yeah, they you know, he don't give a lot of interviews. So he felt real comfortable because we just talked tip hop.

You know what I'm saying. It's like, Yo, he's just gonna talk some rap. We did it a record one that's you know, Doctor Dre Studio, and you know it was a dope thing. His fans says, one of the best Eminem interviews they ever seen, And that's I'm looking for that kind of stuff because I'm artist and I'm not trying to come into this space like yeah, I'm

a music journalist. I'm not. You know, I'm coming into this space as somebody who love hip hop, and like, there's a fan first, and then that makes motherfucker's comfortable with you because they know it's going to just be a straight up conversation about about shit that's just straight up. You know, I ain't gotta worry about no curve balls.

I ain't gotta worry about no hidding agendas, none of that. R. This is a nigga like me who's a fan of hip hop, and we're gonna get up here and talk about some hip hop and how far back and what's your love and when you got into it? And and that makes a motherfucker like him probably comfortable, especially knowing you and dealing with you and knowing that you're just not the typical motherfucking rap journalist type of shit. You feel absolutely bro. Yeah, he was in there having a blast, man.

You know what I'm saying. We was bringing up all the old school shit. He's rapping trench lyrics and everything. You know what I'm saying. It's just like that's that's the vibe that I like to bring to the table. Man. So you know, I'm happy that we're partnering up and we're about to do We're about to bring it back, even even man, they don't even know what's going down. Dog, it's about to go crazy. We're about to go crazy. Yeah, we are about to man do some amazing things. Man. Well, man,

like they say y'all good things. We just say that everything wants come to an end at some point in. Yeah, at some point, I'd love to sit here because we around and sit here. Dog, we wunna be going another two or three hours. Oh yeah, all the time. I already know you know, I appreciate you coming to sit down with us, man, and everybody. Makes sure. Man, if you're not doing it already, make sure y'all go follow Fruck's Twitter. Fuck that has one of the most twitters

I've ever seen. Dog. I think you and Glasses Malone is the most Twitter and motherfuckers I've never seen in my life. Yeah, hey, man, that's what it's here for. You know what I'm saying. Like, listen, man, I tell all my homies that that's in the music industry. Don't be that person that come around with your hand out. You know what I'm saying. Don't be that person that only every time I see you you want something for me exactly. That's what you're doing as an artist if

you're not talking to the people. You know what I'm saying, Talk to the people. Don't just go on Twitter where you were gonna want them to download your single, buy your merch and all that. Go talk to him on a regular basis, create a community and that's what we did. We created a community on Twitter, the rap connoisseurs. Shout out to the rap connoisseurs, you know what I'm saying, And we just talk rap every single day. And you know what I mean, we have all of the questions,

the crazy questions, and everybody jump in. Man, you just you don't ever know a senator might jump into the conversation real quick, you know what I mean, because they just let like that. So that's Crooking and Thriago, you know what I mean. Hit me at Crooking and Thriago. You know what I mean. We could talk rapp all day. That's what we do. Hit me on Facebook, King Crooked, ig King Crooked everywhere. Discord Chris Corner, if you're on Discord,

Chris Corner, you know what I mean, come in. We get real busy in there because we got some secret rooms in Discord where we could really talk that talk. You know what I'm saying. That nobody ain't all you know what I mean, that real exclusive shit. So yeah, hit me on there, man, and just come fuck with me Facebook all that shit. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, for sure, and go get that and go support that final and they I just saw you just drop some

ship too, didn't you. I didn't drop ship, but I'll be seeing all kinds of new ship coming out. I'm working on ship right now. You know. Um, I'll just be doing shit, man. I still got a love for studio. I still got love for writing shit like that, So I don't still love hearing. Yeah, I'll still be trying to create. I'm working on some ship right now. My boy robbed T over there mixing down, so I might have a project or two in the works. You know what I'm saying. It's just a love of hip hop.

Like you said, it's just the love it and it ain't really about you know. You know, everybody gets in this ship to make money, right, but where it starts is you gotta have the love and the heart for it first, you know what I'm saying. And that's how I'm able to sustain and able to still be able to go in the studio and do shit, listen to new artists and listen to you know what's happening, because it's just in the heart. You know what I'm saying.

Ain't always about trying to check the dollars, just trying to do something. You love, you know what I feel. That's why we're sitting here right now. Hey, dog, while we're here, I gotta say it bro the West Coast, right we talk about Chronic album, we talk about Doggie Style. You know what I'm saying When we're talking about some of the staple albums to ever come out of the West Coast Man Music to Drive By, It's one of

them albums, period, point fucking blank. It's one of those albums that you gotta mention in the same breath with. Nobody does it better. Nobody could do it better DC. You know what I'm saying. Like I said, Chronic, Doggie Style, all that shit, you know what I mean? Like that motherfuckers shifted to the game? Music is so classic? Is it aged perfectly? You could play that ship right now and that shit sounds great, you know what I'm saying?

Like Unknown and slipping you and all man Man listened, though. I mean, I've been ryding. I'm gonna have my little fan moment. I don't give a fuck. I've been ryding with CMW since motherfucking uh most wanted punk rolling folk? Who's that playing all that up? The rhymes too funky? That's the whole thing. So my whole thing is this man, we only West. I got Chris Corner. That's a rap

media platform. I'm gonna really start introducing these people out there in the culture to the ship that really made me who I am. You know what I'm saying on that microphone. You know what I'm saying. And the ship that moved our coast tremendously that sometimes is not mentioned. Yeah, definitely. And and I want to say, you know, coming from your generation, it's a little younger than minds. A lot of people think we as older artists, don't accept the

younger generation, and it's far from the truth. When people recognize what we had to endure as artists coming out, you give me. They didn't want shit like they especially didn't want the nwas and the cmws. It was hard for us to get recognition, especially following the footsteps of you know, those originals from the East. You know, the Grandmaster Flashes and krs's and the public enemies and you know the just ices and those type of motherfuckers that

set the foundation show going way back, way back. We grew up on what we knew on the West coast. Get me and for a lot of us youngsters. You know, we knew hard times. You know, we knew police brutality, we knew homies getting killed, we knew you know, strawberry bitches, fucking different niggas from the neighborhood, setting niggas up. You know, we went through that depression hit me, so it's what we spoke on. So a lot of niggas didn't recognize

us for being true mcs. And that's why that was crazy, because we have y'allways hard y'all was man, listen, dog and and and when I came in, I had to continue that fight because a lot of times when I was on the East, they'd be like, yeah, man, you got bars. You don't rap like you from the West. I'll be like, no, I do rap like a from Definitely, y'all just haven't heard the West. And because we had so much diverse, we had so much diversity, and you know,

you always had that respected pen. I mean even like you was in cream video, right. Yeah, So when I saw that, that's when I said, they get it. Oh yeah, definitely they get it. You know what I'm saying. I've always been a true fan of East Coast rap. And then uh just going back and just trying to solidify West Coast ship with niggas. I build reputations with dudes like Premo and and Nas and Buster and Tratch and so I used to get respect going out there a lot.

So it enabled me to blend in and and just niggas were just hitting me eight plus you ask it. Plus you had some of the loops before they even touched them. Yes, just get that part. That part definitely, yeah, that part, you know what I'm saying, Like I know, I know y'all was digging it in print. Slip was dead. We wanted to be different, Yeah, you know, the average regular sounds. So that's where that came from. With all the shit that this nigga got, you know, was still

my favorite shit. Ill no, this is my favorite ship. Pussy's so good that I can't even feel it, but I'm still killing. That was my ship right there, the three with that ship, ride down the three with that ship right there, like because he made you feel like you was in Compton, like you was just rolling around. And that's what I just talked for the average nigga because unlike other I don't know, I don't want to speak on other artists. But like other I was in

the fucking streets every day. Yeah I was. I was in the streets every day. And even though I was rapping and making videos and going on shows and touring, you know, I still represented Compton as hard as I could. So I was in the streets like fuck it, you know, no security, no bodyguards, just just the homies, no riders and fuck getting hanging on the block. And that's where I got my motherfucking tales from the hood, so to speaking, that experience, but you had you could have said it

in any kind of way. The style your star wars fresh. I just wanted to be different than and did because, like I said, when you're listening to rap, you're hearing everybody's styles and everybody this and that, and I just felt like I wanted to represent my section in a different way. And then the thing was too bro. And this is what always talking about last week in a parking lot. You don't you never really wrapped over phone. Your ship was more of you've noticed that. I was

more of a storyteller like I didn't. But as far as the fun after the West was heavily yeah, I did. Like like you said, slip with digging the crates for shit. So we wanted to We wanted those sounds that was different from what you would typically here coming from a West Coast artist at that time, you know, everybody was really Parliament, Funkadlis, George Clinton, uh Zap. Everything was Boo Shop Shop. You know. That was kind of like the just the one two for the West Coast. He was

just a musical dude. And like you said, Slip was the type of dude when we would go on tour places he would always find record stores and go to different stores and he would just fiddle. He would fiddle, fiddle, fiddle and find some of the craziest fucking album covers and pull it out and just look at it and be like, I'm gonna find something on this. And that was him. He was a motherfucking chop king like a motherfucker. But you know what, though, dog, we kept our heart

and we still do. We keep we keep close to the heartbeat of hip hop, you know what I'm saying. And I think that that's the reason why we're able to still sit here. I'm two decades plus in myself right now, you know what I'm saying, And it's like stay close to the heartbeat of hip hop, man, And that's what we do. Dog. And that's crazy, man, you

know because shout out Chill. You know, I didn't had these conversations with Chill all night, you know what I'm saying, Man, Like y'all niggas crafted us and then we said, all right, they did that. Now we gotta be different, definitely, you know what I'm saying. But we talking the same shit, just in different ways, you know what I'm saying. Like our stories. You know, we got a lot in comment, you know what I mean. But when you grow up in this motherfucker, man, everything is gonna be the same.

It might be told through different eyes, but shit, we all came from the block, and we all experienced and seeing what happens on the fucking block, whether you're claiming it, banging it, or you're just living there and see the experiences. So it's just the evolution of what I saw and now you seeing and then the youngsters that's there right now, basice. But shit, it's the same motherfucking block. Man, It's the

same same game, different players the same block. Yeah, y'all get ready, you're gonna do something, man, Let's go that's what the deals, and we out of here.