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I ain't know, you know me, I just they show up, they show up, they don't, they don't.

Yeah, man, you know what I should I shouldn't say his name, but I am. You know Rodney, Yo, what was supposed to come through? Yeah?

Well, you know, maybe we had better obligations or something. You know, we we uh, I guess you know, we gonna say hopefully nothing serious. But you know, sometimes motherfuckers just be like, hey, it can't help it.

Man.

Sometimes people don't feel you know, I guess certain certain things aren't as important or or as a vow you're getting.

Well, you know what. I don't never take this stuff personal because it ain't like we was paying them a check, busting them a check or nothing. You know, it had been a cool favorite for us. But I think it would be cool just to call somebody and say, hey, man, I ain't gonna come or whatever. You know what I'm saying. But I ain't mad though, shout to Rodney. You'll hopefully everything all right? Right? You know that it is what it is.

And some people get funny with their appearances and like I said, what they feel is important, So it is what it is. You know, sometimes people have other obligations or maybe just forgot you know.

Yeah, it's all good man. You know what. It's been a lot of talk, you know, and I know we've spoke them a little bit last week. This whole beef thing is going down, and I don't like to call it a beef, this rap battle, because I don't think nobody gonna get hurt, hopefully not. You know, now, Rick Ross in it. Kendrick has yet to respond to. Drake is out there. And one thing I noticed is that Drake's sung hasn't went to the streaming service ship yet. Still, you got me.

I don't pay attention to a lot of shit, uh that goes on today. What you know, A lot of this stuff is a lot of stuff be set ups and gimmicks and gimmicks and.

Ways to help you know, almost marketing employee. It could be a market employe because one of the things, you know, shout out to the homie Glass is one of the things that me and him have been talking about lately. In the event of AI. You know, a lot of people is using AI to demo out records now, you know, but people don't get though, you still have to go write those records. You just pretty much dim on you know, demo on the record out of somebody else's voice, right,

Yeah, that's that's that's too much above my my that's above my pay grade. Artificial intelligence and and and fake songs.

And you know the originally you feel about other people writing reps though, like how do you feel about rappers having ghost writers?

I mean shit, I myself have never used a ghostwriter, you know. I've always been able to come up with with songs or whatever, hooks, fray, whatever you know, or if you're true at what you do, I always tell people, uh, come natural, you get me, like waking up, putting a pair of pants on, or you know, brushing your teeth whatever. If you're true at what you do in your craft, then it should be easy to pen, you know, lyrics or whatever. But a lot of people blow they watts.

I guess on.

The hard times you know that you expressed or trying to make it, or trying to get in or you know, late nights in the studios and just being serious. I mean, come on, let's face it. You turn around and get a double triple platinum album off your first go around, start seeing a gang of money off of shows, and you know, people wanting to fuck with you, and you know, the successes of touring and all of that.

Tend to forget about where you came from. You get me.

Yeah, then you want to push that image like I've always had it.

You get me. But you brought up an interest in plaint though, Bro, when you on the road and you got all these obligations because the bigger you are, the more opportunities come, and you don't want to turn these opportunities down because it could be real lucrative. You know what I'm saying, do you really have time to sit up and write raps at a certain time, because it ain't like it was when you first got on and me, I hold hip hop to a different regard, like right,

I mean, yeah, it's I don't think it's a secret to unless motherfuckers want to make it a secret. But there's a lot of artists who you know, shit you can tell that oh they didn't write that you get some don't feel there's any shame, oh no, getting somebody else to pin a song or whatever.

I think it depends on wherever you at, Like singers do it all day. Oh yeah, for sure.

So I guess that's the aspect when you But then on like on your to answer your question about being too busy, I've been in putting positions to where, you know, touring and movie sets, and I always managed to keep a notebook in my bag.

But that's what I'm saying for some people like and like and this ain't no knock now, but I think everybody know about now that Snoop. Other people write some of Snoop's records. Some of his biggest records don't been written by the homies. You know, uh, you know, I want a rock record. I think the Homely Bad Look

I mean shit, some people are just bread for that to be in writers. Some people, uh want to not be in that position, you know. I don't want to be the celebrity and whatever. But I can come up with good concepts and storylines and so, you know, we got a lot of people.

So you think, man, you coming from the era of hip hop that you come from, Man, do you think it's okay for people to be writing other people's reps? I? Now, I don't count Snooping that because Snoop has been like like Snoop is a whole nother level. Now, I don't think you would count him cause he definitely wrote his own stuff when he was first coming up and DC. I guess DC helped him a little bit, but that was them putting together a hit record. So I don't

I had no judgment on it, because if it's not really if it's not really my style of music, then who am I to say?

Uh? You know.

What you do to get over M that show? You you know, that's your position. And when you're an international artist like that, I'm probably sure, you present it with a lot of songs from different motherfucker get it camp.

And I'm a Drake fan, like I think Drake make incredible music, But is he a hip hop artist?

I'm I'm I'm a I'm like I said, I'm a different artist.

You know, I'm a.

I'm a reality artist. I tend to not do what it's trendy and what gonna get to that status of being that type of crossover artist or whatever it is. So I don't I don't consider artists outside of my realm to do what you know, they do what they do. I don't know what category you want to put it in. You want to put it in the rap or you're a rapper, that's fine, But you know, I come from a different era, and we just thought differently about certain type of music.

Uh.

Just like in our era, we had the pm dons you get me, uh, which is kind of like the precursor with They would tell you in a minute, we hip hop artists, right, they went to hip hop shows. Remember, they get confronted by MO because we didn't feel and true hip hop artists didn't feel they were in the line of hip hop you get me.

Shoot that was a monster ricord they had. Yeah, that's what I said.

That was like, like you said, the precursor to that era of the one minute we rapping on the record, the next thing, you know, we're vocalizing on the record, we're singing.

That was you know around that. So, when.

You are true hip hop artist and you come from the motherfucking trenches of hip hop, and you know the basically the slave mentality of you're not welcome here, you get me, That's what hip hop went through in the beginning. You're not welcome here. You know, y'all gotta go through the back door. You get me, y'all gotta hold y'all parties in abandoned buildings and basements. How dare you think you can come to a club and perform you get me?

Of it defiles what you worked hard to. You get me.

That ain't motherfucking hip hop, That ain't motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying. Getting run down by the police or trying to throw parties in empty basements just to get our sound out there and people to believe in our shit. And then you can get a motherfucker to come along and put a dress on and make a mockery of what niggas really you get me try to represent as far as bringing hip hop to the forefront, Now y'all

Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like, I don't even know if Drake can be considered a rapper because he do more sing than anything else. But you know, his records sound good when you know he's a good rapper, you know, regardless who're writing and stuff, he still got to execute it. You feel what I'm saying. But I don't really look at him like no hip hop artists like that and nothing where we at in hip hop.

Well, we used to have Braggadocia's rappers. You know, I'm this, I'm mad, I'm bad, I'm the greatest. You know, I'm we this, I got the I got the I got the Polo this on. You know, we got the we got the fat dookie links. We've always had Braggadocia's rappers. But I think in this day and age, as far as with economy and finances and uh flossing is at in all time?

Hi, you get me.

Motherfuckers want you to know, I got some dollars.

You get me.

The era of being low key and incognito. That's not our g that's that's not this generation. This generation wants you to know, Nigga, I got money, I got this, And I used to tell motherfuckers all the time, it's crazy. You you know you put you. You listen to motherfuckers, you know, these artists, these new artists, and like you said, they bragging, my house is worth fifty yours is only worth this. I'm flying around in G four, You flying around in the G two. That type of shit.

Begging on the dude's jet, like, man, your jets from nineteen seventy eight. It ain't safe. It used to be a cargo jet, you know, And it's like, come on, bro y'all talked about righting.

But I'm saying, but I always say that you, as the fan, are the one that put them in that position. But then they brag about what I got that you'll never have, but still stream my record.

You get me.

I didn't like dudes who bragged about how much they had. But then it's the average motherfucker who's spending their money on your album. Now you're making them feel like, how do you feel to support that motherfucker so much when he basically telling you, nigga, you'll never be me? You get me and thank you for your twenty dollars contribution. And now I'm this, I'm that you'll never have what I got. I got this. You ain't worth that you

You know.

I listen to new dudes, and I listened to they songs if it's good songs, but I've never been I never been a fan of the braggadocious rapper you get me.

You know what. Man, When cash Money first came in, they did a lot of floss and I thought that was kind of cool because it was almost comical the way they did it, like, you know, like many fresh to talk about I got an aquarium and a dash my car. You know, it was just so over the top. It was funny, almost right, you know what I'm saying.

But then niggas would go out and do it. That's the type of crass.

And that's what I'm saying. It was like that was like almost a part of their gimmick. You feel what I'm saying, Like I'm the number one stunt, I'm the stunning man, you know what I'm saying. I'm a stunt on niggas, and that was kind of like his thing. Dog. But then, you know, hip hop come from the ghetto, man, and it's always gonna be represented, you know, that's what pop.

Come from the struggle from it came from, It came from like you know, it was our voice. It was our voice when we didn't have, you know, as a youth in those times, the seventies and the early eighties, you know, we wasn't we wasn't on know, you know who's my role model? And I want to be like Mike and you know and Martin Luther had a dream and all that. Nigga, we was figuring out how to make bread and stays and survive and run down neighborhoods and buildings and poverty. So hip hop was the voice,

Shit like that.

We had our own lane. Niggas started rapping about what we was feeling. You know, drug dealers everywhere. Niggas don't care. Nigga. I'm Meley Mayo with the message and you know what I'm saying. We had songs that represented nigga. We in the struggle right now.

Yeah, And I don't want to sound like one of them old men is like, oh woe is me? The little kids making this type of music. Now. It's just that I think if people not careful, they can almost take theyself out the loop of reality because the stuff they talking about really ain't reality for the average person living in this country. It's maybe only maybe one percent of the people in this country, or maybe point five

Are being reeled about how the economy is affecting them right now?

You? Oh, no, definitely not. I think it's a rapper's job, so to speak, to always kind of put two on the ten because they have an image to portray. You feel what I'm saying. Do you really think Ross is walking around all day every day with big jewels on and glasses on, with a perfectly lined up beard and all those are photo opportunities? Definitely? You feel what I'm I'm saying. It's like, and everybody, if they not watching they coin, they better watch they coin right now because

Firsthand being an artists, dealing with companies and contracts. Everything ain't what it seems. But again, you know, imagery is everything.

Yeah, a lot.

Of shit is rented, at least a lot of shit is, like you said, favors and loans. But you know, when you put yourself in that position forgetting that.

You can be normal.

Now you have to keep up with the Joneses.

They you know, that's what they say. So, yeah, the fans want to law you to be normal. You gotta think about this eight Like we talked about this before, You could be normal. I want to see you normal though.

Yeah, you could be normal if you present your They they accept j Cole normal. You don't ride around with you know, you don't see motherfucker jumping out of Bentley trucks and rolls Royces and the entourages and the thirty chains on, and you can be.

Ain't living on top of the liquors through on Second Street either. Fans don't want to. If they see him in that light, they go clown them. You feel what I'm saying. Yeah, but you don't have to. You don't have to become a successful artist off the struggle. Once you become successful, you should remember where you came from. You shouldn't turn.

Around and Okay, today I'm talking about how I'm struggling and hustling to survive. And then I go out and because a lot of fans identify with what I'm coming from, so I sell two three four million records. Now I want to walk around in Fasachi shirts and big chains on and then alienate the motherfuckers who put me in this position. I'm just I'm just not cool with that shit. You can be normal if you want to. Kendrick, Ain't riding around with big chains on and jumping out of

I would imagine the duck riding right here, Dut. You know you my homeboy dog me and they need you to come up here and sit with his dog because I got a lot of a lot of shit to talk. I want to talk to you about Kendrick. Gag fucking Kendred like boy, leave me alone. No, I'm bless my home. He Kendrick is my homie too. That's why I got redid some work. He might fuck around, the comano dog, he might fuck around to come Dut.

That type of dude, you you better off action Michael Jackson to pull up.

I don't know, Michael, no mother there.

Yeah, but niggas get it. Certain niggas get certain statuses.

Aday.

Like I said, sometimes, you know what, sometimes you can put yourself. You can become something to where it don't even allow me to do that anymore.

Well, no, I will tell you this. That's what I was gonna say. Dut if he had the opportune time, he would do it. But I don't think he could come over here and do it. No, so much security. You probably have to have so much different stuff in places. He's a mega superstar. Now, Yeah, you gotta pull up like the president. You gotta have an entourage, and you gotta have security, and niggas gotta check the street out

Now you get me, now, I have to go out and pull up in the two million dollar car because I put myself in that position.

Why because I started rapping about the shit.

Because I started telling niggas, Nigga, I'm bringing in twenty kilos and nigga, I'm the man, and nigga, I'm having lunch in Paris, and then WOOTI wom now I expect it. I better not see your motherfucking ass pulling up in the Honda Civic and shit like that, because you put yourself in that position. If you want to be normal, you can be normal.

Who always did a good job of keeping stuff normal. Dog. I would see you different places at your height. I wouldn't ever since necessarily just run up to you and talk to you all the time, but I would see you places right. I would also see Warrens in regular places a long you know, around like at the grocery store out right. I used to bump in him. I think he might have been living in that little community

You know what I mean, Like people be surprised, Like they'll see me in the in the in the grocery store, or they'll see me at the cleaners or some regular shit like you really in the like okay, Like I had to tell him, motherfucker the other day, how I'm a get ship. Then I don't have no motherfucker going

The conception is something else, Like I remember when Kendrick's little sister had a birthday and I guess he brought her a Nissan or something. Everybody in the comment section was like, Oh, you such a bad brother. You didn't go out and buy her a Bentley. You didn't go out. It's like, that's a nice present. You know, a girl grades wait in high school, get a Nize.

Yes, hell, your sister problems as a normal, as a normal, as a normal motherfucker. A person's come up and like here, here's a motherfucking Honda, or here's a knee sign, or here's a hell.

Yeah, least I looked those pretty decent calls.

Ran new and nigg I can get from A to B and and still don't have to worry about you know what I'm saying, asking motherfuckers for rides or catching public transportation. That that's but see, I can see that as a motherfucker wanting to.

Let me I gotta keep you grounded.

You get me, because if I start stepping out of the element, then everything gonna be fucked. Next thing, you know, I'm a bending ran through one hundred million dollars on crazy shit.

You have to be really because you have to understand from the fans standpoint, they think everybody got making money, especially and you know what's funny, the podcast stuff started getting that same category. I pretty much know what everybody getting right, and some of these numbers just be just way out there, just because there's no way for them companies to recoup that money. How they gonna have to sell a gang. It would have to be ads running

But why should I because they feel like.

Like, why do I have to buy a new cardinal piece?

Because you're putting yourself in a celebrity category, and now that you're a celebrity, you can't be normal. You can't be normal, you can't be just you know, you're the Gangster Chronicles dude, So why would you you want to be riding around in the old truck when you can go rent you a Benz or a BMW or lease you a fancy you know car, because that's the image that people feel you're supposed to represent.

Don't you think it's just more safer to be a homeowner, to be a guy that owns property, to be a guy to own other little ancillary businesses and stuff. That's not what you can think that's more mature, because the thing is.

But it's most likely our people though you get me. You can say that about you know, not to say all black people don't have that train of thought, but at some particular age brackets, it's like, no, nigga, what do you mean.

Buy a home and stocks and all that shit. You know.

Now, some people are trying to you know, yeah, that's the smart thing to do, whatever, but come on, the typical motherfucker, eighteen to thirty. You get it, motherfucker, you're supposed to live, nigga. Where's the where's the Louis Vatanes and the bags?

You better think about it though, Like this, I'm pretty sure me and you was talking earlier. You don't have every car possible. I done drove five fifties. Dog, I've had the five fifties. I've had to escalate with the thirty thousand dollars kits on them. Dog. Of course you can't. You can't resist sometimes. I've had all that stuff, you know where all that stuff is now dog gone because it wasn't worth It wasn't worth it. Like once you

And I think that just comes with maturity. Like they say, if it's nothing, if you got it. But I think once you get a certain age, you start filling uh to be conservative and to be smart. It's probably a better way of thinking.

Yeah, we gotta be conservative because the thing is one thing is about a dog father time is undefeated.

And like I said, I don't I don't like to judge motherfuckers for their choices because I was in the same position. You get me, Like I said, when you come out of struggling in poverty and you get your first opportunity to make some money, yeah you got. And you and you a young man or young female, and you know, you nineteen twenty twenty one years old, and the motherfucker come hand you a couple one hundred thousand.

Of course, you know.

If you haven't already had the teachings and the trainings of economics and how to manage money and the long run.

You get me.

Let's think twenty years down the road of what's gonna be, and so you think different You would think differently probably, But I tell you there's not too many of us at nineteen twenty years old, coming up out of the hood who had economic training other than selling dope.

You feel me tell you something, I'm pretty sure over your career, over the course of your career, you don't make ms. I'm pretty sure, right, I don't made a nice chunk of money too. Man. But I really just set up and thought one day, we're half the stuff I don't bought is at right now? Like I thought about it right because I'm like, man, I had a car, I had a little rider. I was working on where's that because you just think about it, like, man, a lot of shit? You know, where's my car? Had dirt,

A couple of million dollars in the bank at this time, at what you still be on? You know, I need to go get me a Cuban diamond and crusted. I need to go get me some kind of fancy watch. Do you feel like you have to keep up with the image of what hip hop is right now?

Probably not, man, because I'm into different stuff right now, and I think people we'll do that sometimes just to feel good about yourself, because you do come from a place to where at one time you might have got laughed at for not having the coolest shoes, you know what I'm saying. Definitely halfing this. So I think that's why Evaness has grown black man. I noticed your shoe game is always nice. My shoe game, I feel is pretty.

Was kids, you feel me, and that the crazy shit is when the last time you bought some Jordans.

That's crazy, though, You get me, how.

We fiend for shit as youngins got to have it. You get me, and at your age right now, could you even tell yourself you get me. I could buy me some regular shoes.

Oh yeah, I'm cool with regular.

Buy me some regular comfortable Nikes or some regular like. I couldn't tell you the last time I went in the store and spent two hundred dollars on a pair of Jordans.

Man, I'm gonna tell you, though. We get so much stuff like now, especially like clothes and stuff for free. Yeah.

I get niggasent all the time. I get so much stuff for free every time. Every time you see me wearing something, it's probably something somebody thene gave me.

Yeah. You know. One of the things is I always tell people I didn't start smoking weed till I got fifty. I turned fifty right because I found there was a better alternative for certain stuff that your body us, you know, especially when we start getting them old war injuries, old football injuries and stuff, and he's going bad and stuff. I just found a weed help a little bit more. I don't I'm not into taking pills, you know what

Because football shit is costly, especially when you running a youth organization. You can get up into the tens and twenty thousands with insurances and.

Then the fifties while you're playing. If you got teams of people who's ain't paying, Dog.

You know you're gonna have a couple of kids that can't pay. You know, wherever you gotta wherever you want to play your games at on the weekends, you gotta pay for the high school. You gotta pay for the reps. You gotta pay for insurance, so it can get costly.

Shoot, I went, yeah, yeah, top dog dude, so from top TD bailed.

Me out though, and to be passionate about so, yeah, you gonna uh, you're gonna put your foot in that ship and yeah, sometimes your investment can go haywire.

And that's where you know where your friends is at. Dog definitely, because I'm gonna tell you, I remember it was a time dog to where I just got fired from the publish all this stuff. It hit me all the same time I had the football league. Usually it usually happens I lost my job at the publishing company. Man, me and Glasses was sitting in my living room, Dog and I didn't know I was down on my last like fifteen hundred dollars. Dog, I said, Dog, I don't

Budget, except I'm sure the struggle is. That's why I said the struggle is really you know, it can present itself in unfortunate times, man, and it always comes like that. I always say that when something fuck up, then something else is finna fuck up before it get better. You know, for sure, you just have to be able to withstand uh them tough times.

And I think that's where.

Knowing how to deal with poverty, you know, coming from them type of situations, uh fucking food stamps and low income and you know, projects in rough neighborhoods, you kind of learn how to get that tough skin.

Ain't you scared to go back to that door dog? And I'm not scared to go back to I just think I've done too much stuff to escape there.

You know, when you go from you know, when you go from being at the height, you know, and you know, you you're living good and you're driving nice cars and you're able to go out and have a nice meal and you know, provide for your kids. And then it's just like with business would work sometime. Uh you might get let go your job, you might get fired. You have to be able to know how to uh get through tough times.

Uh.

You gotta learn how to start cutting back. And and I think if you've been a person in struggle before, you appreciate when you're able to uh get back into a sustainable situation. Uh, you learn how to not do shit or no, I ain't doing that, or I ain't buying that ship, or I ain't I don't need that, or you know, you start really uh considering you know, the loan haul.

That's where I'm at today. You get me. And that's why if you notice with me and you talk my conversations as always toward the future.

Yeah gotta do you know, you know, coming like I said, coming from you know, six bedroom houses and boats and fancy cars and you know, driving hundred thousand dollars cars around and you like you said, they got low riders and dirt bikes and everything that a motherfucker felt that he needed to be sustainable coming from poverty, you get me, Uh.

Don't get me wrong. I ain't broke now, nothing like that. But I just know what real money is. Oh no, you know you you.

Right about now, you broke if you ain't got a million dollars exactly.

So that's what I'm saying. Like I'm real, regular people.

Uh people feel to judge you on uh, on your income status. You know, as far as being in that type of position. We are in the position of limelight and celebrity, so we supposed to uh, you know, we're supposed to be billionaires. You give me nigga. You niggas got a podcast, nigga. H you did movies and records. Everything ain't what it's cracked up to be. Like you said, I know, I know contracts, and I know numbers, and I know real shit and reality is everything ain't what it seems.

Everything special and stuff ain't what it seems. And you know what, man, I'm gonna tell you. The cash that got money. Anybody in hip hop that's really getting to a bag, it's the external stuff that's outside of music is getting them that. It may be that trucking company that they own on the side, the shoe endorsement that they have. It may be the touring they may have going the road five times a month, six times a month, just to maintain their lifestyle.

Yeah, because it's record sale shit, and this record shit ain't it?

Ain't it?

You know you got a thousand, you got a billion rappers today because it's looked at as the quick come up. You get me, but you count another niggas money and you're end up finding out that this road ain't as lucrative as you think it it is.

You get me. So you think Kendrick on the clock right now, whether it.

Was a or not, I haven't really I haven't really listened to what's the song push Ups?

I heard.

All I heard was him referencing Top and that that's really what. That's all it really got to me on you know what man and I think and I don't. I don't like ship like that.

I don't like it. I don't like it.

It's it could turn from from a from a friendly banter disc into some serious uh to some serious uh situations because we you know, we know Kendrick and we know Top and the situations and you know, with with the label or whatever, and so I don't like to throw like if we're gonna battle nigga, then me and you gonna battle.

But you remember what I said last week. I said Drake was what I said, he was a devil, right, And I said, he does stuff like that. Drake is the type of dude that if he got a problem with you, he's going search. He's gonna compliment your mama while you're doing it, just to just to cause a little dissension in your household. You feel what I mean to where you gonna be lack mama, what you're doing taking sides with that nigga. You feel what I'm saying.

I particularly myself, wouldn't you know, if I'm gonna get at you, I'm gonna get at you. I don't feel like I'm gonna have to go uh digging in that ditch to justify my get back.

But that's just me. You figure Drake could do the same thing when he was going at it would meet Meal, he said. I rode down the street bumping the ad and a our Ad was cool with meet Meal at the time, but that gave um aar Abs some juice in the city. So he started automatically siding up with Drake. Over I mentioned my name, I'm gonna slide up under him. Now you feel what I'm saying.

I mean, but you know, all is fair when in war you get me like.

The fact that he brought Top's name up into it, because you know, the one thing I want to say is man. Like I said earlier, I had the pleasure of being around him though, real early when they were developing that stuff. I remember when par six would even playing them their songs. Jay Rocker had to deal with with Warner brothers. They wouldn't even messing with them like that, right, And I remember Top grinding Dog like his grind was relentless. Dog.

Fairness. Uh, there's no cordial you know when it comes to dissing or disc records. Uh, it's always been accepted in hip hop, whether it go from a a funny comedic uh disc record, we're just going back at each other, you know, or it gets to the point where niggas are shooting at each other. It's always been here and hip hop, it's always been here as far as different sides and different neighborhoods and you know East Side against the West Side or or Queens against Brooklyn.

Or all that.

You know what I'm saying, it's it's always been there. And that's like I said before before a rap uh nigga. We associated with high schools, our football team from this side of the block, don't like your football team. We might get into some fights after the game, or it's just it's it's not liking the motherfucker has always been here. Uh, the way you deal with it. Some people, you know,

I guess it's it's just the way you deal with it. I guess you know what. I was talking with D one online earlier and he was talking about how beef is not good for hip hop. Somebody could wind up get hurt. I had to ask him. I said, Bro, when have you ever seen two artists actually go at it? I'm talking about now. You may see Entourage's clash if anything, but you go very rarely see the two main artists, two main artists go at it like even when And he said, still, come on, you know too much about

Yeah, But like like you said, the beef ha come between the entourages the disc records to just go to the artists, you feel.

That's what I'm saying, Dog, It's like, ain't nobody sitting up here two rich people? You think you out there boxing somebody.

I mean, but that's like what I said, If it comes down to just beef, then let's just say fuck the records and we might as well schedule a fight or a hookup and let's get it on. Because we hate each other that much. It's deep than just It's deeper than just the motherfucking words on paper. We literally got a genuine like, fuck your neighborhood, Fuck my neighborhood, nigga, we got a beef. Fuck this rap ship.

Like, let me ask you this, bro. You know, Kendrick ain't the biggest cat in the world and Drake got just got a little size on him. If they was getting scrap, who do you think of win that scratch? It wouldn't happen.

You might as well say Trump and Biden gonna get in the ring and fight it out. It don't happen with people like that said. It don't happen like that. You just you just you're just stirring up the pot right now. You like to stir up pots for a minute. You like to do that, you know, damn well, that's the biggest hypothetical question you could ever.

Don't matter. So you.

As a billion dollar nigga, you find to go fight the owner of xon or you feel you get me when you you you know what I'm saying, because you putting him in that same category. He's a millionaire, rich motherfucker who's got statuses and Nobel peace prizes.

You ain't got gonna know he got a politit pride, he don't hilde he.

Got no bail, peace prizes and ship And you go get a nigga fitted Like I said, your bodies will call up Trump and bided, like, nigga, what your niggas want to fucking debate for old Chattel seven for won't you niggas just go to Vegacy, get the rig and see which one of you old niggas can knock each other out and whoever it becomes the president fucking.

You know, Trump will beat Biden's Trump. I see Trump.

Talking washed this nigga still man, This nigga still to get your ass and a hot pot of fucking gub ball with his ship.

Gotta beat Drake. Drake seemed like the type of dude that like the seword fight or something. What's that ship would have had a.

Sewerd nigga said he wants to he want to be, he wanted to want the funnies and ship on the fence.

Dude takes six places.

Like I said, is it's it's good hypothetical banter for like I said, hip hop people. People are enjoying it because, like I said, it's too it's too big artists. It ain't like it's the two niggas from around the corner and ship who you know, uh dissing each other or whatever. It's two major artists, and I think people just are intrigued with, uh, these niggas taking that route. People say it's it's it's it's it's needed in hip hop. It

Man, You but you know what the dog the thing is. I said, I think Ross got the best record so far. I don't know if you've been paying attention like that. I haven't listened. He got a record out to Yeah, yeah, Ross record hard Buddy too. Yeah. So I don't, like I said, I don't know what it's for.

Drakes record ain't bad. Oh man, you see the I mean too too. I mean a year ago they was making records and videos together.

I don't, I don't. I don't understand the I don't. I don't.

I don't understand what happened. Really, I don't it abstuitely be You know what, man, this whole thing could definitely be the biggest pup listening because them, them is two niggas that got a thousand records together. And then all of a sudden, you calling him white boy, and he calling you your mansion is fake, and you leash your plane and and when other people gotta needed, they got to peel the fucking rapper off and all that. I don't want staying what the banter is. Like I said

Well, these niggas a motherfucker.

But I'm just saying it's it's you don't hear anything to the level of I'm getting on the plane and headed to Miami, nigga, and we can get them up when I see.

If you're a rapper today, you can't never develop. You know how, When we was in the industry, we were young, we developed close relationships that will never be broken. Nowadays, these niggas can't trust each other because they find out because I don't understand. I've been friends with Premiere and Scarface and Spice and a gang of niggas for thirty

Like what y'all can't have a phone call and talk about what happened. That's what I'm saying. You niggas was just on songs and videos together, a gang of them. You niggas got a gang of songs together.

Ross said that you know what's the what's the boy's name on the other rapper. They said that Drake put a ceasing desistant on French Montana's record. He had a record with French Montana. M I guess Drake put a cease and desist on.

It or whatever because you didn't do what pay me or you didn't clear it. Yeah, okay, that's business. Nigga ain't no personal vendetta. But Rose took it personal. He says, Ah, why you take it personal? When are you French Montana? Is it your record? Why did you? Why did you this Ross's artist? I guess okay, I didn't. Y'all didn't, so what you expect me to be friendly on everybody's fucking shit? And I'm a businessman, y'all using my ship. I need to get paid, especially if it's a nigga.

Yeah, you got a point.

It don't mean I fuck with me and you cool.

I don't like this nigga.

I don't like this nigga who looked like me. His nigga trying to beat me. He light skinned, did like me. He trying to have little SINGI songs like me. I don't like this nigga, So now I don't want to clear it. I need my business handle. You can't get mad at the nigga and turn around and go okay, fuck you. You didn't clear the shit. So now I'm gonna join the disc bandwagon. That ain't that ain't business. That's like, that's like some hurt. That's like some butt

I don't know. Man, it might have been more than that, but ros's going on. That's why I said, we don't know. Even talked about bird Man. He said, you let bird Man get four max and get full clothed ross. Motherfucker don't shit funny as hell though, And like I said, you who knows what? I don't know? You know?

But is it to the Is it to the point, like I said, because I know how niggas get down over here, and when niggas got beef, nigga, you liable to catch it. Bullet shit, you was about to catch a bullet hole through your window or some ship like that.

We got beef.

We beef over here because we have the cripping blood aspect when we beef.

Okay, all that.

Shit, you talking foreclosures and you're this fake and you're a white boy and all that shit. Are you ready to jump on the plane and get them up? Is it that serious? If it ain't, man, get this motherfucking ship up out of here.

Well, Roth said, when you see me, if you if you got a problem with it, when you see.

Me, chicken, how you're gonna have ten niggas with you and I'm gonna have twenty. Like I said, let's be let's be some real men. You gotta issue nigga. Let's get them up. If you want to be, if you want to be, if you want to be rapping and dissing for streams, then okay, just keep it, just keep it real. We're gonna make a couple of records. We're gonna make a couple of records. We're gonna talk shit about each other, and then we all gonna sit back

You get We gotta find angles to this shit. We gotta find.

Angles to this ship. So if I start dissing you and you start dissing me, what's gonna happen.

Everybody's gonna want to hear this shit.

Right, They're gonna be anticipating the records or I can't wait till that new disc record come out. I can't wait till Ross's response come out. I can't wait till Drake's response come out. And all the while they waiting, everybody chinging up, chining up, chining up. So I don't know, Like I said, we come from we come from beefing.

You get me.

We come from beefing with me and quick Hat. That was beefing.

You get me. What what Cube and Easy in them had that was beefing? You get me.

It's like, nigga, fuck this rap shit. If I catch you in the streets, nigga, were finna get down?

Yeah, hope, you know what, that's the last thing. But they're not finna. They're not finna do that. Yeah, I don't think they're not finna do that. That's why I said this is friendly banter. Nigga, I'm gonna say something about you, You're gonna say something about me, and then three four months from now, we're gonna come together and sit down and have a glass of champagne and go we're cool. Now. Yeah, that's pretty much. But it was sop upper. Did you see this stuff that don't happen

He uh. When he got released, one of his conditions was that he go to Utah because his manager was like, you know, we need to keep him out of trouble and all this kind of crazy shit. So the condition that they let him out, what if not to be mistaken, is why they went to Utah.

Well, let me read this.

There ain't got no hood, you know, if he doesn't have any type of involvement in it's Utah.

Yeah, let me you talk out some hood. Motherfucker's right, but.

He's not affiliated what like he was in Baton Rouge in his spots.

Well, he's steal into something note because check this out. This is what happened. A rapper who is serving house arrests in Utah was arrested for his alleged involvement in a large scale prescriptions fraud ring in Cash County, NBA. Young boy who's real name is Contrail Deshaun Gordon, was

He's in Utah and they then probably ran out of the lean and they need they need to procure some more well, so they.

Say they got him. The police say Gardon and many other individuals who were not named in the documents tried to obtain the prescribed cost suppressant for multiple pharmacies in Cash County. According to police, Gaudon called in a prescription supposedly for a seventy four year old woman to a pharmacy in him in September. They said he claimed to be a physician in the Provo area using an actual valid DEA number NPI number, another identification for the real position.

Yeah, somebody working in the doctor's office then slid the negative numbers so he can call in and and and order, you know how. The doctor or called into the pharmacy and be like, yeah, I'm calling in the calling a prescription for They do it all the time.

And they said, so that's what he did, Yeah, and he's he was arrested by It doesn't say all. They don't say if he was a secret service. So he's gonna do some time on this man, you know.

Because well he's he's had, he's been having long, extensive cases and situations.

He already fighting the federal guns. Jar. My dude is one of those.

You know, you always have one of those dudes who come out the neighborhood who's just he just can't get right. You feel me, always in trouble, always the police. I really don't care about it. And when you take a dude like that and you put a gang of money in his hand and a gang of motherfuckers, they really become uncontrollable. It's gonna take a while probably for him to mature out of the out of the state that he's. Like I said, man, when you come from that walk

It just makes you it worse.

Until he's able to until he's able to understand you get me until he's able to understand the position he's in and that you got to grow up, dude.

This is crazy, and these girls go telling them because check this out. They said that similar incidents occurred to other pharmacies in Cash County, and police said two women picked up the prescribed drugs during one instance they were taking and detained as part of the investigation and later arrested for their alleged involvement in the prescription fraud ring. The Cash County Sheriff's Office said the vehicle the woman arrived then to pick up the drugs was registered to Golden.

I need that lane flying the girls him to Utah. They coming to kick it his girlfriends or whatever they are, and they probably like, yeah, let's get these let's get these prescriptions. Let's get these prescriptions somebody. Like I said, I mean, that's you know what he's getting put on blast because he's NBA young boy. But niggas do that ship all day. And even if they they getting fake scripts, they get man niggas is. Niggas is doing lean like it ain't ship.

Man. I'm gonna tell you, bro, it's a drug epidemic right now. Hip hop with that lean, with that lean dog, with all that stuff. Man, it's pretty much heroin, bro. All of these kids are on heroind I don't care what they call. I don't care if they're taking an appeal formed dog. I don't care if they However, they're doing this all heroin dog. So it's it's.

Like I said, we it's kind of you know, fucked up when you have the vices of influence. I mean, because we used to do it. You're telling nigga, hey, get you some gin and juice. We're telling nigga pick up a foldy.

You know.

When I get it with that. Like I said, it's it's our generation. Though this is not our generation. They're different than us. Forty ounces and fucking you know, weed, smoke nor your Your favorite rapper is telling you the pop a percocet. Your favorite rapper is telling you that we sip and lean. Your favorite rapper is telling you, all my bitches do coke.

You get me.

My nigga right now is telling you on the popular song right now with with with k Dot, all my bitches do coke. You get me. I'm trying to let you know, nigga, is it's okay if you want to fuck with me, you want to be one of my holes or my bitches A nigga, this is all my bitches do dope, all of them. I might even pop a perkoset or whatever the shit they do.

You get me. It's it's their generation.

That's why we got so many youngsters dying, you know, popping pills. You know, we got the youngsters dying off of the lean, you know, all of it. Because again, your favorite rapper is telling you it's okay if you want to do some coke, all my bitches do it. It's crazy that shit that's supposed to tell you right now, that's the it's it's accepted, it's popular. Come on, man, I'm I'm your favorite. You damn sure. I ain't looking at me bad are you You ain't You ain't nowhere going, man,

Because that's the way I like my bitches. I like them high and like man like what.

I like them high and zonked out. That's the only way they gonna be able to stab my motherfucking ass if I get them, if I get them high up out of existence.

On that note, we're about to get up out of here, man. But we in Atlanta next week like Effect Podcast.

Conference, and you say, all my bitches due coke, all my bitches due to.

We're gonna be out there and ladies out there and here they performed that song live like ladies.

You ain't got to do no dope. You ain't got to do no coke. You fine, be natural, you know, be beautiful. You we call you a cluckhead if you do it dope.

Again. We'll be at the Black Effect Podcast special next week.

But what we call what we call the nigger back in the days that did dope, I don't get up.

A cluck there's a cluck these dudes.

Let these niggas fuck you up and tell you that that ship is cool. We look at your ass like you're a goddamn idiot. Clucker back you.

That ship ain't here, that ship is not It wouldn't definitely wasn't cool doing that cocaine. You would get bagged.

Trying to make being a cluckhead cool and ship to he's cool.

He wanted this dope so bad, jail, he said, I need my lean.

And I need my lead, and I need all my bitches zunked out. I just need him sitting in the corner like this when I come home.

Yo, shake us out. Next week if you're in Atlanta.

Area, Yeah, we're in at yl Man Holland.

Yip. You know, shoot up to the festival and all that. We'll be out there, pull up bonus and were gone. That's sixty minutes, bron.

That nig said, all my bitches, all my bitches doigga.

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