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only one. Um. You know, we we've been having a discussion over the last few days when Glasses, in particular, you weren't part of these conversations, Peter about have you seen the most Hated Man on the Internet now? And why do you sound like Katie Curry on your podcast? Whose help was Kitty Curry like? Sign? Have you seen it?

You haven't seen the Peter, right, I saw it. You saw it before we go into it, because we're going to have a conversation in length about internet crime, a crime about the laws and fall you know pretty much this um, this show was about this guy man. He was called himself a professional life ruiner. That was his thing, this Hunter more guy or something that Hunter more no man. And then the show was called the Most Hated Man on the Internet. Is a three part documentary about Hunter More,

a self proclaimed professional life ruiner. More game notoriety for operating the revenge porn website. Is anyone up dot com? Oh and does anyone up dot com? It allow users to post Internet kitchens and personal information, you know, not More. He was known for refusing any takedown request he got. He had a takedown request for him on there, and he was dubbed the most hated man on the Internet, you know, in two thousand and thirteen by Rolling Stone and if you know, they found out he was known.

He had a guy actually happened to people's computers, phones and every damn um. And we're talking about the early days when the Internet, you know, first started really taking off as far as social media and websites. This is around two thousand team, so it was just a whole different time. It was the wild West at that time, even when you went to YouTube during that period. In two thousand and fifteen, he was convicted of He ended up being he played guilty too aggravated identity THEATH, which

I think is hacking. She was aggravated identity theath and aiding and abetting in the unauthorized access of a computer. But that's the hacking part. Yeah, I think the hacking part is the first part. The second part is providing a public forum for hackers. Oh m, that's a call flip on the crime. Well, he most definitely. And I'm gonna tell you the reason he got caught is because there was an angry white woman involved. There was his first She was voracious, she wasn't letting go. She was

gonna make sure that account for what he did. So before I go into it, um, my biggest thing with this, it's her daughter apparently had took some topless pictures that she said were for her own personal use. Now, I don't know why you were sitting at room and take pictures of your titties, and and she had ambitions for an augmentation. And that's the thing. So you know, once she found out that her pictures were available online, she didn't know what to do. Mhm. She didn't know what

to do. She was mad. So she eventually went to her mother. She told her mother about to keep in mind this girl's stepdaddy was an attorney, but they didn't get him involved. Two months later, like, he didn't know nothing about it. He just knew something was wrong because he said that him that, um, his stepdaughter and wife kept meeting together and pride of it and everything. Eventually, you know, it came out. But he just pretty much said fuck anybody that wanted to take their picture down.

He just didn't answer back and naxt He would become worse in some cases. I guess on this site, Um, what did he call his followers the family? I forgot what he called him, and they called him father, but his father has called him father. So he was just having people. He just had people out there doing the most insane ship in the world and it was really crazy. One of the coldest part is he had a girl

sniffing cocaine off his penis. Yeah, all right, so we're talking about I believe the site went up and around two thousand teen, so he pretty much had this site. There was an open forum where users getting upload pictures and everything like that. But the problem was at that time the Internet, the laws of the Internet dictator that sites weren't responsible for the content on there if it came for other users. So it was like kind of

a get out of jail free card. I could have opened up a website back and had user submitting people getting their heads chopped off, and I would napster for pictures almost man, almost, But okay, that's how it was low key. I think the biggest character in this story, man, outside of the actual guy itself, was Charlotte Laws woman now her daughter release some photos. She took some pictures

of herself pretty much and making pictures of herself. Now, my whole thing, my whole thought process during this whole thing was this, why are you taking pictures of your tippies us? If you can take a picture of something,

you can send them off to somebody. The person take a snapshot of these dick they take a picture, they did, they send off to somebody, right, And I'm tripping on this woman's mama because she was just going after this dude so intense, right to where even after he took the pictures down and he was off on his way to Jim, she was still working with him. She posted his address on mind Nick Torerea. So Charlotte Laws. That was her name, right, Charlotte Charlotte Laws and your British

how her British lawyer husband. His accent was so popit du the whole documentary. Yeah, what the thing? You know? I don't know why they didn't get in the vaulved earlier though. If you got a husband's an attorney, you should probably you probably want to get him involved. And you remember, you remember what he said, You remember what he said. He was like, they went to him, Well, first they was doing it by theirself for a while. Then they went to him. He was like, well, just

ignoring who cares? Like it was like, just live your life. And they was so mad because that's how we really would see it as men were like, but that's who cares. Nobody even know about that side side is that? But honestly, it wasn't that bigger deal. Man. She didn't even have pussy picks up there. I'm talking about these just her little beast things. And it's not like she has milvtivities. It's like, you know, so what some you gotta. I think she made a bigger deal lot of it than

she was. She was talking about she long suttle acting opportunities and everything, like, you guys need to learn a thing or two about white ladies. Well it's people. Tell us a little bit. If you ever, like, want to step on a bear trap that you cannot get off of your fucking leg piss off a white lady with too much time on her hands, a little bit of

money and a little bit of self worth. That lady well dedicate more man hours two getting the justice that she feels she is due, for right or for wrong, than any force of nature you could ever imagine in this universe. And that's what happened. And that's what happened because with this Charlotte Lowell woman man um And I think there's another agenda to this movie, gene, because if you want something to disappear, you usually don't keep talking about it. Right. So now she's back in the spotlight,

right now, they coming up for something. Yeah, well, you know that the thing he was right, she had a right to be mad. But the way she went after this guy, she never held her daughter accountable for what she did. It. First of all, it was just like, well I took these pictures just in my room, I should be able to take potus of myself. And I

think now where the line kind of gets throng. And this is the problem right there, somebody actually hacking to her phone supposed to get these pictures, right, And I don't know did they ever proved that she was hacking. I don't remember, so min you Pete, double down on your point, Pete, to double down on your point. This white lady h Charlotte had the Federal Bureau of Investigation come to her house to investigate improve that her daughter's

computer was hacked. Mm hmm. That's how dedicated this white lady was, that had too much time in her hands. I'm on her hands. So the fans came improved her computer was hacked, and that's how they was able to charge oh way for the crimes. The thing about the hunter more thing too, he's not a very likable person. Um. I don't think many people would advocate for him, man, because he was just asked so like he refused to

be you know. And that's the thing right there, man, It's a bunch of people that just refused to be accountable for what they do. For people taking these pictures. Like it was a guy in the fan that took a big pick and one of his friends that actually submitted him to the site. So it was just real

funked up, man. And the way this woman went after this guy right once he got the site took down, because what happened another guy wound up buying the site right and pointing to anti bullyings like so everybody kept this. Lady kept just a rassling constantly, just kept it rasing. You know, she put his address up online. Then that's

when he's went after her. And the guy that brought his sight, the guy to purchased the side from him, he actually started going after him too, and was talking about he was gonna make another sight that was even bigger and better, and he was gonna put the picture back up there because the lady was working with h And what I wanted to talk about a little bit like this is the internet back in two thousand, team, it's a whole bunch of ships online. Now you got

motherfucker's playing the kill Motherfucker's. It's a lot of madness out there right now, and I think it's gonna be a lot more people going to gaelog. My favorite, not that I mean favorite an interesting choice of words, but to me, the most interesting internet crime I have ever heard was the fake staged Craigslist revenge rape fantasy crime. What's that about? Some lady? I forgot the genesis. There was a beef between Lady A and Lady B. Lady

B will be the victim in this scenario. Lady A had it out for her, so got some pictures of her figured out. She leaves her door unlocked and put an ad on the Craigslist erotics saying, I'm so and so here's pictures of me. I like to live out sexual rape fantasies. So come into my house at nine pm find me. I'm gonna yell and scream and resist or whatever else. It's part of my role playing and just give it to me by brute force. Here's my address, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

So somebody's seen it, went over there and raped the girl and she resisted as was described in her rape fantasy that was written by another person. Wow. Wow, so so this is so let me let me get this great. I want to make sure I got this right. So this is a real one. Putting this stuff out there was somebody doing some revene ship like just posting somebody's phone member in there, and some they did an episode on SVU about this. M HM, that's new cases is

based off real cases. Yeah, I saw that. Damn that's real. That's really Yeah. The lady who most of the ad ended up getting locked up and the poor fucking guy. I mean, I don't know how to feel about the guy like he he got the full charge, of course, because guys getting stuck with everything in court. But it's like talk about intent. It was like it wasn't even considered. But I don't know that's it's a it was a weird deal. What let me ask show this feelers, how

accountable do you think a woman needs to be? Dude to this stuff? Because the thing is this, right, if you take some naked pictures of yourself, man, we know everything is like m well back then not so much. I don't even know if the cloud was inventaged yet right to be because you can't just pull into somebody's clothesed loop C drive from remote, you know what I mean? It has to be cloud. Well, no, it was in her email? Okay, what was the crime even convicted of?

Still he was convicted of WROM hacking that was the major what's the exact charges under more? What was he convicted of? I just had aggravated identity theft was one of them. He played guilty the charges of to abading and a bidding, hacking and aggravated identity. He served two years in prison before being granted supervised release in order to play a five mint thousand dollar Flying Morris case. D and however lead the campaigns which brought about strict

legislation around with the EISH. So just just from Hunter More, we got all of these new things. And I'm gonna tell you that's what anngerous thing about the Internet is a lot of people aren't first and was right a wrong, Like I see a lot of people he would call somebody who need podcasts? Right, you can't record someone without the amounts. First of all, that depends on the state. That's true in California. You don't need bilateral consent in

other states like Oregon. So so, and I think that's will change pretty soon, man, because I think right now what we've got going on we pretty much the open Handora's box that with the internet, right, Well, we have that section to thirty law that says, like in this case, for example, this guy puts up a website, he is now liable criminally for anything that goes on the website.

But if you push but but you do anything on Twitter, anything on Facebook, Twitter and Facebook as corporate and these are not liable criminally or civily for anything that happens on their network platforms. Well, well, I'm gonna tell you this man, this is um. The Internet is the criminals place. All right, you're gonna get your I've had credit cards, you know, credit card numbers still going through the Internet. I've had, I've had my I didn't compromise too before.

And I think because we do so much stuff online right now, you think about it one last time you bought something Amazon. Never But that's why I always use nord VPN. Having a virtual private network to route against your IP address can give you an added layer of security just in case we're looking. If you're hearing this ship, that's exactly before. We do not have no We're not getting no ads outside of the thing. So I'm gonna but I might not edit that out. I have submitted auditions,

God damn it. Demand to check. Hey, you're not gonna run this. Get a check from that said cold crime, Those are cold crimes to be convicted of. He was a guyst I'm not gonna lie hunt him. War was a gangster life. I remember saying he was on TV. He was like yeah, ship, well fuck him. I was like this, Yeah, he wasn't backing down, and they showed this one scene to where he was at this thing and the girl in the audiences like, fuck you hunter more he was like, shut up, big yell, get you

pregnant when I'm finished. He just like that. You know, he was winning chronicles. You picked the right motherfucking gagster. Yeah, I'm gonna see if we But you know what, don't do. He's the second person that I've heard of that got manned from the Internet. He's not even allowed to go online every again. How do you function in society without

corn on the internet? Bro? Easy? Any job that you have, with most jobs, unless you're working in the warehouse somewhere dog, a lot of really corporate jobs required you to be able to have online access. M So it's go pretty much limited him in his work. And I'm pretty sure if he had website, he was a person that probably had some tech abilities. I don't know what he did in the real world before he started as anyone up dot com. But he was from San Francisco, right, not Sacraments.

He was from Sacramento. He's from sack and m. He said that revenge for had never been the original purpose of the website. He said it became a form of users to seri explicit images of people they knew, linking the photos of real social media people. That's where he funked up, that kind of because like, let's say somebody submitted to dictike of you, right, he would put your social media, he would put your Facebook up there with it,

would put everything with your MySpace page with it. So you had people and that's how they would find out they they pictures was on this site because they frankly hear him maybe you up on me is does everybody looked at the site? Right? They see it? Back then he had something like maybe three hundred fifty thousand unique users a week on there. They said that that would be three point five million people today. Yeah, he would

have about three and a half people. They're going, that's like, you know, fell into that's like envisiting the sight every week, you know the thing. You know. He don't seem like he too a morsel about it, man, He just like g the whole time. Well, I think at the end he ended up half asked telling oh he sick on the hacker he threw so he sucked it up, but but all the way up into that moment that motherfucker was a gangster man. He oh, he was on uh,

what's that man show? The white Man with the gray hair, the guy who would walk in and like the catch Predator or something like that. Oh, no, it was what's his name is it? It's not Pierce Morrigan. He's on CNN now white guy with gray hair, super great, but he was on his show was a national television show at the time, and they was on him and he was like, yeah, well that's on them. Oh Anderson Cooper? Was it? Anderson Cooper? I think that's Anderson Anas and Koba.

But he was just like every interview he did, he just didn't care. And when they first got his like like some anti buddy dude who actually is a bully himself, he don't even know it, Like yeah, James mcgintney, Oh yeah, yeah, he was James mcginttney. Well what it was. He became aware of the whole situation that was going on, right, and he came in and he was He started buying adds, some hunter more just to get him get to see how his business work. He wanted to know how to

site operated. He wanted to know how much traffic it got. He wanted to know what he was dealing with, so he started buying ad space from Hunter More and got a relationship with him. Right. So eventually when all of he started coming down because Hunter Moore thought this guy was an ally and you said, Hunter, you want to get into a lot of trouble like about this, why

don't you just sell me the site? And I think he offered him something like ten thousand dollars at first, and then the price went up or whatever he paid him for the site, and he pointed to U R L to an anti Bulley and side right, the internet went crazy. He started sitting the Hunter all kind of meals like what you know where the funds? To say that? WHI was, you know, what's this ship right here? And then um Hunter tried to lay low for a minute.

You know, he did the best he could. He just came now that motherfucker was a real narciss Gee, that's what the narciss sealed. I think Hunter More was a narcissist and social fath. I mean the way that the way the television show painted him, I can understand why I don't know him was enough to make that diagnosis. But that motherfucker was bad news. Um. He was the change man, Gitney cat Um. He was a bully himself. He did. Yeah, that's what I was saying. He was

a bully, dog Like. He bullied him the whole fucking time. That's exact opposite, And that's what I was saying to y'all on those sailings, like you have the idea that you're saying Hunter More right against he was. He was a narsess this. But then the other dude, James mcgillion, he was an insecure person. That's why he started the site because he felt like he was being bullied. They ended up meeting at the same exact type of place

and with the same energy. He bullied Hunter More the whole time like that, and then even at the end, like when the way he was talking to him like well, I don't care what happened to him, they're racist, passport blah bla. I was like, damn, like Hunter Moore, what's the name of the people that it's a powerful group of people. Anonymous Anonymous. Anonymous got Inforard and when Anonymous put off the notice, they canceled Hunted More of such security.

Remember this is a such thing I wishing motherfucker could eraised my subsecuted and you're the old new one. Can you imagine your old motherfucker thing is done? One ding crash and I got a whole new friend start right now. They made his passport in valid. Pete crist Is, they was come inting crimes. They took They took them all the money in his business bank account. Do them don't

know win this shelter? Who did that? Like l Anonymous is that online click with the masks where they just kind of get involved in ship and you don't want to piss them off because they very rational the ship. Because they made this dude disappear so for like a month, this dude can't do nothing. All his money was done. He pretty much got He just pretty much got the Alderman hack itself, which was kind of irunic considering what

he was doing to people. They sucked him over right, and he still seemed like he didn't give a funk. He was like, man, these anonymous motherfucker's think they'd be in something and being ship. He was one of motherfucker's shows talking ship right. Well. The craziest part about it, man, he got a lot of lawsuits and um, you know, investigated by the FBI and the guy that was hacking

the ship for him, his name is Charles Evans. Um. The thing about the Charles Evans do the way he met Hunter was actually he had Hunter ship and he thought Hunter was gonna be mad at and he said, no, I needs to work for me. We could make some money. He was spanning for the pickers and ship and really where Hunter fucked up? And I think it's you Bris and then end kind of sucked him over. I think if he would have been a little bit more sensitive,

he would probably be a biggin right now. If that's like what it kept going to be a big Yeah, he just had to. But that's the thing about this Gancer ship. You never pick it right. You gotta find a place to exist, Like you have to find a place to exist. That's right on the verge of pushing everybody. You need to push and knowing when to not push.

And it's a tough space because when you get used to bullying your way through, like like shove what I'm saying, If you get used to bullying, you don't know when to stop. So like he has to be with some level of intellect and That's why I could agree with Pete when they were saying like the thought of or you saying he's a narcissist, because you can't size up

the situation. I think that was the biggest difference between like if you look at say, like a Frank Lucas type criminal empire in the City of New York versus like one of the Italian mob criminal empires in the City of New York is really I think it came down to Frank didn't want to bribe the right people, and the other people kind of appreciated the cost of doing business and bribed their way into a more long

term existence. You know what I mean. You have to grease the right wheels to be able to drive, and you can't just be defiant and assume you're gonna plow through every obstacle in your path. It's not realistic, practical, that's real you know. And you know what My biggest problem is this g hacking people as rungs and mother fucking but where's the count of build? Youngster? Want to know why this Kala more chicken was taking pictures of her tuties And I think women are different like that man.

They take pictures of the tt they'll take new you gotta think women I have a good idea, and they'll take a thousand pictures just to find one and won't post one if they don't like none of the thousand do that. But but I, but I did have questions the whole time for the first thirty five minutes of that ship, as they're explaining, like you can see, it was like a crime dot and I'm listening to it,

and I'm like, damn, they're paying Hunter more. And I'm like the whole time for about forty fifty minutes, they they're gone where they're talking about these these titties. That's gonnaline. And somebody posted online like, well, why are you taking pictures of your titties? That's tell them where are you storing them? That's my question. If they were hacked out of an email, then you sent them somewhere. If they were right, they're that into account. Yes, there are networks.

Network storage exists. Back then, it was it wasn't available just to the average person. But remember but remember what they were doing. They was hacking it. They was going through Facebook and they were this is before you know, now we up on it. Somebody hit him like, Oh, I need to send them my cold to your phone. Could you give me my cod so I can find it? Like people was going for that in two thousand and ten, eleven twelve. So they were hacking into people's Facebook. And

that's why I'm like, huh. Or she was uploading at the Facebook and decided not to post her. So that's what they were doing, supposed to me to get people's facebooks or their Gmail. And I think it might have been in their Gmail. I don't know. It was kind of weird. It has to be put in something that's that's network backed, because I can't just dial up and hack into your clothes loop C drive on your laptop. Harlotte, Listen,

Charlotte could have the moms could have faked it. Feel me like, that's some white people ship that she could have did. She was just convinced, and it seemed like the whole time she was just trying to convince and argue this case that her daughter was just this angel that ever, no mom out there would ever have a mistake as a parent, So of course they're gonna believe their daughter is a saint because they're just that good a mom. Yeah, exactly, and and and the thing. You know.

So she set up to get the images Voo moved and she started calling all the girls friends and calling other people that had pictures posts on the site. So she really campaigned for this, and I think I think she had her own motive jecause if you noticed, I think that chick is trying to be famous though, because you see, she's an author, she's a former model, she's this, she's that her daughter is trying to get into active.

I think they are a bunch of opportunists. Man. I do believe that they were done wrong, but I think she took it a little bit too far and not seeing Hunter more, probably shouldn't have been like the doesn't that dude with the DV she did? You know who did it right? Kardashian Jenner that mom, this lady wrong. Well, you know what, Kardashian pretty much out there pimping her daughters. You know, she don't give a fun man. You know,

um shout off to my god, man, I ain't. I ain't gonna shout up to my guy, Mickey royal Man. Mickey told me, man that chim he used to go on, used to go to those adult swinging parties when she was married to. One producer was Damian Young. They were married. Huh they were married, Yeah, they were married. They would go to these swinging parties, right, and Kim was always with the bullshit and her mom always knew this about her.

But her mom dictated who she dated. When it was time to get rid of the Damien Young dude, what was his name? That was one thing? And he what was the producers man she was married to. I forgot Damien something, but I know any time about Yeah. But when it was time to get rid of him, Kim's mom said, he gotta go. Kim's mom said, he to. Do you feel what I'm saying? So the thing is broke. A lot of these people don't want to be accountable

for their own bullshit. Because my thing is this, If you're sitting at home taking pictures, you're taking take it, doing this all this relationship, right, you gotta expect at some point, dog that you they could get found out. So why would you have that ship in your phone? But that was one particular case, like a lot of the other cases were really normal. You know what I'm saying.

People were sending pictures, People would say, you know, girls are saying pictures of guys are saying pictures to a girl and they'll break up or have their issue, and that person would upload that ship to that site being a dick, and then they would get the information on who it is, who it is in the email, like once you submitted, they'll find that person's Facebook and then put the Facebook link. You know what I mean? With

the picture, that's just crazy as heal dog. Who would you do if you found out you had a picture that you don't want to over see? And I think they I know personally, I think if she had just did like the dad said and said who gives the funding, didn't give a funk, I think it would have went away because it really wasn't that bigger deal. And I would have had never had no idea who this girl was. If I would never saw that series, I don't even think I would have knew who Hunter More was. I

never wanted that site back then. Did you ever doing that site? Gene? I never heard of it in my life. I never heard that it was a youth site, and I never and at that time, that's when I was kind of doing my thing, I never heard of it. So I think if she had left alone, but she wound up putting the man's address out there and all kind of ships. When she put his address out there,

he countered her and started really fucking with her. And I guess motherfucker's were showing up if they crib and ships, sending them packages and ship and just doing a whole bunch of shipped to it. And I think she kind of asked for that. I didn't like the mama. Be honest with you, I think the mom is one of those privileges asked white women that think she runs with

sh I'm just being real. I'm just being honest. I just think, like Peter said earlier, I think she's one of those mothers that, no way you're going to talk about my daughter, you know, one of those people that's always up their customer teachers out, customer professors out of it. Ain't never their daughters far, it's always somebody else's fall I don't like that because I don't look at my keys from the world's colt louses. I can tell you they might suck up. Yeah, they're throwing the funk up.

I think everybody is throwing the funk up sometimes, man. I think it's one of those six equations. Man, but he wounds up serves in two years. Man, he's banned from the internet from like you know, they do the same thing with forty blocks. Yeah, they forty block and he's trying to fight it out. He's banned from the Internet. Well, he'd be on Instagram. Well that's the thing. Well, let's not snitch on homy you he'd be on here. But

he's banned from the internet though, would that be consider sumission? Yeah, people being from the Internet that you just told that man, you know, for that whole temping church, he kind of should get him on here. Pimping. Let me try to get that's hell not. Don't help the nigga commit no more crimes. Goddamn, he can't think he was. I think he cool. No, he was not no more here you got going. Now you're gonna make me commit a crime with the nigga, And I don't know what the nigga

in trouble for. Hold On, I don't see how you can be banned from access from the Internet as a user. I can see where you can be banned from hosting rights. Hold On, we go try to get forty lock on see if he answered he's doing the cold if there's an answer, I was sitting in a text message and say cold, yeah, forty whatever money. You sound like you sleep. Hey, I just want to ask you a question. Then before I put you on there. We're doing our podcast right now, right,

and we were talking about the Hunter more dude. Have you seen that that flipped on Netflix? The most hated man on the Internet. Yeah, but the Hunter More Dude. They had a site caught as anyone up dot com. You remember that ship back in two thousands ten. No, it was a site to where I guess he was. You should watch the movie on Netflix though. It's a

little mini series. It's about this cat. They had a website called as anyone up dot com and people was allowed up little pictures and all that ship there, and they came to find out. Any way, he had this one girl on this took the titty shot right, and her mom's found out about the ship and got to complain. And you know, a white woman getting They gonna keep pushing to the end of the world to get a

mother quickly. So he wounded up getting two years. And I was telling Glasses, I said, man, they tried to get the homie in front of the same ship. Would you tell him that their internet that they can try to ban the motherfucker from Internet? Oh? Yeah, like that that's crazy, don't And could you elaborate for that a little bit more? Like does that mean that you are not allowed to access a web browser period? Or like a person wouldn't be allowed to access hosting a website period? No,

you can't. You can't do but trying to devices like what I have permission? Yeah, the permission you asked out. Okay, so you just get forward. You know, I gotta talk some business. What you dog? Are you gonna be around the next hour? Yeah? Well, well well I'm gonna call you back answer because like I gotta talk to you about something. We're about to get some ship Crego. That was only forty right there, he confirmed. And I think he thought this situation, Gene. I think he was able

to fight this situation. Don't gout of it because they banned him from the internet, dog and this ship, this case didn't have them to do with no online ship. Are you still engaged in the podcast texting people something to deal with um glasses? Because and I heard him, I'm just trying to read about what he's saying. Right now, I'm trying to really figure out the nigga from the Internet. That's crazy. That's some crazy ship. So you can't get banned from Internet. I'm gonna tell you what else I

think will happen. Man, I think with all this ship that's going on, I ain't gonna mixing on names, right but it's a lot of it's a lot of serious ship going on the Internet now. That's leading to a lot of street activity. And I think, man, that people have become so free. I used to speaking so freely on the Internet. I think if something happening one of these characters, it's gonna be a whole bunch of motherfucker's getting drug in form questioning. It's gonna be motherfuckers spending

time in the county fighting these cases. Though, because it's a lot of ship going on right now behind the Internet, it'll be similar to the I had a bunch of people I knew in Arizona got swept up with the illegal use of a cell phone laughing. You know, with regards to various business dealings, m you could take the

same application to the Internet. You'll probably see something like that as a manifestation of like I'm assuming what happened with like forty go off from a timeframe standpoint, when like you saw the transition from pimping and pandering to human trafficking to then Internet stuff. You see backpage get pulled down, crasist courses of crisis get pulled down, all

that kind of stuff. You see a radical application of law to broader areas over small things where you now have a jurisdiction or an authority to say, okay, now you're using this thing as a vehicle to commit a criminal acts. You are no longer permitted to use that thing. That's crazy, man, that's crazy. And this thing in age though backing maybe baking maybe two thousand mother for the bands you from the internet, you can still continue on

with your career, especially if you're recording artist. They could be catastrophic for somebody like you make them more for the family you from the internet though, hell no, that's just crazy. I mean I'd probably be a relief, but the cript would definitely be canceled. You say, you can't

cancel the privacy on my own. They had to prove his me and I think that's I opened an Internet trap spot Internet out the trap and it's it's almost like when you're drunk driving, right, you know, you've got those people that have gotten so many drunk driving tickets. They got to get a britalizer thing from their car and they got blowing it before their car start. What do they do with the Internet? Do they just put a mother come and see some motherfucker's computers and ship? Like,

how can I stop? I think what would happen would be like they couldn't stop me from hopping on your phone and getting on something, but like anything with my name or identity on it would be blocked. But that's the problem where you have a suit up public suit of private relationship like you have with then innet and cell phone stuff because of the of the relationship with

the um FCC and that kind of thing. So if you have a cell phone in your name to your Social Security member that I p on that is blocked from Internet access, you would have cable service or anything tied to your address blocked from Internet access. Any device you know, you have to register a computer or whatever with your name or whatever time I purchased that would

be blocked from Internet access. So you couldn't take your laptop two Starbucks, because the I P of your hardware devices would be blacked out from the Internet, as would any services that you would purchase. Well, I'm pretty sure they have certain ways around certain stuff. Like I'm pretty sure, like you see, one thing for you d say is that you have to get permission to do certain things.

So I would assume if you had a job or something like that, were they required you to be able to access email or whatever, I would think that they would allow within a certain time frame of the day, like maybe from six in the morning to maybe five and the afternoon to where yeah, you can access certain electronic devices or whatever. It was like when you get a d Y, you can get an exemption to drive your kid to school or to drive to and from work.

But if you're driving not at those times, then you're in trouble. You know, you're you're not you get caught, you're in trouble. Yeah, exactly. So it's like because you own the car, but the roads are considered public, so you have that public private clash and they have the authority to ban you from public access. Yeah, because right now I think we're in a place in society, man that we're I tried this experiment, and I think everybody

should try. I shut my phone off one day, just cut it off, like on the Sunday, right one Sunday. I just cut my phone off because I figured that if anyone that was close to me needed to get in touch with me, didn'tbody to get in teuch with me, Like Glasses has my wife's phone them, you know what I mean, Glads has my phone over the head. But you know what I'm like, you know what I'm saying. But he has that kind of access to me to wear. He knows how to get in touch with me if

it's an emergency. My mom knows how to get in touch with me. My kids going to get in touch with me. So what idea was? I shut my phone off one Sunday, And when I turned it back on, it was like my phone had to reset because there were so many text messages and voicemails just possible up. It was like the the phone just shut off in that little wheel, just fun from like two minutes because it was so much. And I think we almost have too much access nowadays. Man, I think we have to

unplug from it two times because the Internet. Man, I think is addictive. I think it's a lot of bullshit they're going on here. And have any of you ever visited the dark web before? Yeah, m you've never been the dark web before. When I tell you, man, I

was literally disgusted. You know, I got a brother that works for a major company, right, and that's what he did for a minute, is that he's pretty much set in the room with seven other people and they just looked at the Internet all day to take down ship that was bad, right, And he couldn't do the job no more. After three years, he just moved to another division because he said, I can't deal with it no more.

He said that there are some six people everything for me, like all that ship is real people wagering on fights, dog making bums fight to the death, two bums with a butcher knives and they he ain't just going at it with each other in the alley somewhere in the warehouse, some damn where. And motherfucker's is waging pets when these fights dog, motherfucker's getting choked to death, motherfucker's having deep and sex. He said, it just got to be so

much infom what I saw that motherfucker dog. It was bad. There was a lot of ship It's like a whole another world passed this ship dog and it's like nobody contracted, I said, I told my asked my brother. I said, why don't you'll luck these motherfucker's up. You can't find where they at. They may have an I p addressed that says the theory and um Prompton, California. But they could be somewhere across the world. Mm hm, so you

can't track minority. VPN offers me the ability to select the location of my virtual whereabouts and I know you won't collect collect from them, Go collect from the VPN. That's not me, prayers again, I know the rules and I'm a good citisen follow the rum. Don't give me. But that's not the name of the company. This it's a private network you can access with a shield. Well, I know where the VPN network is. I got the people in networking on my phone in on my computer.

They can allow you to present a a fake whereabouts. So like there's certain countries, or you can do certain trades and buy certain assets in the crypto space that you can't in other countries. So you do on my VP and network, and I had a free subscription for like a year because there was one of us, because one VP and that was one of our sponsors, right,

And that was that. That's when I realized that they have different ships on Netflix in England in the UK that they have over here, because I saw episodes of Black Mirror that I haven't seen before, and I was like, why don't tat sure that over here? But it's because of the licensing or whatever. You know, sometimes you've got certain licensing rights and ship like that. But it's some crazy ship on the internet man, And I think, um, I think, as we go along, man, it's gonna be

more and more laws. And I think whenever you get to where you're kind of when you're making up these laws, I think it's almost like the pimp and banderin thing versus human trafficking versus human trafficking. It's a lot of dudes getting locked up and off of human trafficking ship. May they really have been want nothing but dealing with

consisting adults, you know what I mean? The average woman is out there being a prostitute, wants to be a prostitute, and she's gonna be a prostitute regardless if I'm collecting her money or not. Okay you feel me? Yeah? Sure, g you the most engaging motherfucker everyone this podcast. Man Um you said dis engaged. I said you the most engaging motherfucker to day? What did I do? Now? You just being quine? Do? I wish I would never seeing them to you. I'll be listening to you, that's all.

When you be on my head, you know, and let me shut the funk up. No, I wasn't on you here. You told me something that was right, but the glasses I had you took off, the smart nigger glasses for sure. Man. The motherfucker's I was in here sweating dogs. I turned it off earlier when we stop about that hmon noise

and it was getting the motherfucker was sliding off my head. Now, I'm just I'm always listening, you know, when we do gangs, the chronicles from this inception, and just how to make it better, like you know, when first started making it and making sure the next season is gonna be like more incredible. So I'm if I don't know if you notice I'm texting your notes at the same time. Yeah, what you don't have motherfucker's dog. I don't have fans

tell me stealers on their sleep. I'm like, you've done, motherfucker. I'm reading notes. I'm texting you notes. Um, didn't you fall asleep on one of our podcast episodes? Though, I've never gonna sleep on what I'm texting you. I'm texting you different notes. So I'm gonna tell you what it deal is about me. Look at my eyes, Peter, look at me, right, I'm sitting there right. Yeah. See, now I know you're awake because I can see that they're open,

whereas in other moments we couldn't. I'm like, like, just just the thought of Hunter more, you know, and him being represented in the Gangster Chronicle space, Like I said, I'm texting you, I'm thinking he's like the perfect kind of gangster. And and you know, further with Gangster Chronicles taking it into a space to where if really start getting into criminals and gangsters at the top level to

bottom level. And that's why I think, and I know we were on an open podcast, but I think it's important for your you know, your audience to know that that's the plan. Like we're trying to take Gangster Chronicles from where it sat into you know, shifted into properly what would be It's fair to say this is like fourth gear, right, m it's a six feed, it's a six speed trans what I'm saying the eight speed test speed trand so trying to shift it in the fifth gear.

So it gets really interesting, you know what I mean. I was thinking about maybe doing against the chronicles in the courtroom. You mean one gangs the chronicles in the courtroom, shooting it in there, you know, just really to to document crime and and and and and and gangsters and people commit crimes, groups of guys who commits crimes, and

representatives in a much better way. So I'm writing down note So I apologize to everybody watching Gas the Chronicles, but I'm just giving you I'm always writing down those see how to make it better for next season? Yeah for sure. And you know the thing is, man, I was wondering, Man, where Hunter More was that? Now? Right? Um, he's banned on Facebook, but he's active on Twitter under the handle underscore. I am a Hunter More. I'm like going,

so he is on Twitter and I'm you're not. You're not a criminals, so you can tell the police deal. What did you say, Peter? Twitter? No, I and this guy isn't actually banned from Twitter? What did it from Twitter? For? Peter? My boy who's a research scientist, sent me what he said and he's very good at his job, is that this is a very solid article about a laboratory study about COVID. It was not an alarmist study that was pro COVID lockdown. I post it on Twitter at Bandy

for life. Man, I'm gonna tell you this though, anything about COVID or any disease that they can that they can, that they want to determine its misinformation they can, and we obeying your ass. That's YouTube would monetize your video. You don't know the snach and your ship down if you keep talking about it. That's why just COVID. I don't talk about it. I don't do nothing. I'm not no doctor. I don't give a funk about none of that ship. I'm by a doctor, a study conducted by doctors.

And you decided to post that. You being a white man you are, you feel like I have the right to post this, So I'm going to exercise my right and I'm gonna post this. They took your ass off the platform. He really can't what you mean, like you got all this VPN sheet. You can't get a kind like ge No, you could have, I'd have to do a lot of ship and I honestly I don't really want to, and I don't know how easy it would be for me to, like say, I went and got

on a different device and made a Twitter. Every time I do anything anywhere near my fie, even on Twitter, Like I try to go get a Twitter link from like a college football forum about something and go to a page and try to scroll down, I get kicked

right on off. So you're bringing from Twitter. I mean I even even when when Elon was was talking about making the purchase, I sent something saying I would like like having a logging problem, and they were like, no, you're banned permanently, And I was like, this was years just just two years later, this was like the last month. And then I'm like to under your name and get you them get you. Um, I don't know if I could even access it, Like I don't know if you

on your phone. It was like when you living my were you living where you live by the town. Now you live by the state, right this this this thing here has the same number attached to the same social it did before. I don't think they go that deep. Bro shit, he telling you what. It's not even in the app. When I try to link to a Twitter page in the browser, I get kicked out. So what have you got another phone? This is my second phone. So you and this motherfucker isn't That's all I'm saying.

That's all I'm saying. That's some cool ship. Do you know what the man I think this man Hunter is I guess apparently making medium tracks now and he just a song called make the Internet Great Again. They by the end, they humbled his ass for sure. They humbled his ass for sure at the end because he he wouldning to show his face to news that motherfucker went from smiling and wilding out and it's fairs, man, fairs,

you gotta wear humbling motherfucker's man. Well, this is what Hunter Moore said recently tweeted, Look, guys, I did my time behind bars, living in my life peacefully. Now It's been a decade about what happened. Some of you loves me, most of you hate to me. If you want me to apologize, what I wouldn't. I don't know anyone anything that's what he said. I don't, I don't be in my time. Fuck y'all here wrapped though, he rapped for sure,

But he was a gangster before that day. You know what, I'm gonna try to get him on the show though. Let me get him locked up some more. Gee, you know the thing he was like, he's obviously on Twitter and I didn't write that ship. This ship is on a public thing. Um No, I guess I guess what because a podcast may not be considered on well, he had to do it in the studio hunter More. He was released in two thousand and seventeen. I want why

you know. My one thing about it, dog is I think when they did the expos a on him, they should have had him on there. They didn't want he got paid for that ship, You don't that's some things. Do you want, motherfucker to make a whole movie about you and ain't gonna get your ship? Ain't that some bullshit? Man? They said at the end he had intended to be on it but changed his mind at the last minute.

Especially if you got like a crime against you, then that stuff all becomes public record and all that kind of ship you can it's no longer even your It's like your life no longer is even your property. That's crazy, man. I know, me and your boy getting together, what's my boy? Um lines of we're getting together the man, because I'm gonna tell you, I saw that in The Chill a bullshit though, and that ship kind of pissed me off.

They live in that movie so damn much, though, and they always make it lines of look like a sucker, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I don't think that's the thing. They made Dre look like Ike Turner. Yeah, well, you know what, the Alonzo didn't look that bad Drake. When they turned Drake intact, they turned Dre and the Ike Turner mixed with Bobby Brown. I was like, damn, he's this lady up like that before. You know what? The thing about Drey Dog is nobody knows what the

truth is unless you're there to see this ship. Though you can't really say so. I would never really speak on that, but I don't know. Dredd beat the shot of the Barnes. He would be Barnes as I thought he fired on d Barnes once, you know, he be Drugg as It was some fun up ship kind of like she got up and drugs. You know, you up somebody and is for a little bit here and ship that. I mean, you know what, he didn't make gangster a so maybe, but I don't know. I just thought that

was a thing too. And you have to look at it like this. Not that I would ever excuse because I hate motherfucker's to put their hands or women, I don't, but because I think there are times when people fight. Like I've seen a thing today with blue face that beat that. You know, blue face girls trying to hit him. Blue face girl is abuseful. You know what. G it's a point because I'm gonna tell you this. I'm like a woman got one time to hit me, she gets one warm depends on how hard she hit me. You

don't hands on each other period. I'll be watching this little TV show that you're having, this TV showing at the house and ship, and and she'd just be fighting all the girls. She just always fights. She just an abusive lady, abusive young lady. She just got like issues with her hands and she's just been going so far. Man. Yeah, this is crazy, man, But we can go on and shut this one down right here. Man,