From The Street's To The State Pen

Bix fell from the streets. Hello. Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of My Heart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the I Heart Happen. Subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen. Subscribe to the Gainst Chronicles and leave a start rating the comment we like them. Welcome everyone to another episode of the Kings the Chronicles podcast. Not with my Dog Vic Jay. You know to night

we got a very special kiss um James. You said this was your road dog, My road dog love honey from the neighborhood. Uh we we bumped head with niggas together. Uh, this boomer, he's a he's a real one. Um. He just got out serving twenty and you know, I thought it would be good for him to get on here and educate some of these young cast is trying to go to prison and don't want to go to prison. So I thought it would be good to get Boodog on here for people to hear what he gotta say

about being in jail. And it ain't cool, especially during that that much time. Yeah, for sure. How much time? When did you come on? Bro? I came on August studying. Oh you're thirty, so you're just coming on. Yeah. I ain't been out ninety days. Yack. Man. You know what's crazy? Dog? From the time you went into now, is it just weird toil you looking at the internet and everything like that. Yeah, I'm just learning real good right now. I'm barely getting it, man.

I'm getting it though. With the phone. Right when I got out of here, I'm trying to people call him. I couldn't turn it on. I'm like, you know, all kind of stuff. Yeah, I got it. Well, we had phones back then, Budog. But the phones are different now, but not like these, not like this, it's a whole nother level right here. We got everything on it, cash, hap bank accounts. Yeah. Yeah, well I had a video of visitsing there, so I was used to that. But you know, I got all kind of stuff going on

in the FaceTime on here. It's crazy though. Yeah, you know the biggest thing bro nowadays. Um, you know, from the time you went in and me, you you know, come to find out just talking before we started the show, we ran a lot of the same circles, right and uh, if you look at it now, it's real strange because you've got a lot of just cats out there that could really you know, the computer is a safe favor were you want. The internet came nobody reached out and

smack the shoot out of here. So you can pretty much say today you know what I'm saying said, you just say pretty much say what you want to. Yeah, what was you thinking when you first came home dogs looking at if you got to really peep the internet out? Yet? Yeah? I peeped it out. I mean it's cool to me.

You know, you get you get a hold of everybody you want to get hold to real quick, you know, ship the Facebook cracking, you know, I got a little shit cracking on that dough, my little workout videos and ship. I like it. It's cooling a lot of honeys on there, you know. Yeah, that's just one part of boomer once you get finished messing with some of these clowns on here. Man's head, you where you want to reach to the screen and chow somebody out. Man all the time? Yeah,

I don't be chipping out the clowns. I just muched letties on there. I know that I sucked up right, sure, So what I would like to do, man, because one of the reasons we wanted to put you one man, that's right now, we lived in the real climate of fifth and chaots. Man. These kids just gotta way confused. They think going to prisoners or right of past. It's like, I can't wait to go to prison. It's all yeah, the reward, you know how. It's a little young catching there, man.

I told him, Man, I said, you know, it ain't y'all fault. Man, It's like it's our fault that we went to president, right, I said, y'all get raised, but your mama's out there. So y'all dressed like them. Y'all pay each other bitches like y'all, mama, you know what I'm saying. And you'll when their clothes, you know, I told him when everything they faught, and the ya should

looked at me like, damn man, you're right man. He got quiet forment and started about what I was telling you, because you know, if I can, dad, we didn't call each other bitches. I should know that, will you know? You th whoop whoopd on like that. But then niggas playing Hey, you bitch, I'm like damn homies. So I said, man it to the song man. I played the ghetto Boys by home. We don't play that. You know what

I'm saying, y'all remember that cut? Yeah? And you know a man called the bitch is a no no. You know I'm smacking your mouth, bro. You know you know I told him we didn't play like that, just a different era, man. And uh, these dudes in a real little gangster and they're just all really dopeez man. Right, if you aint gotta you really ain't gotta be from a gang no more. All you gotta do is how

to sack nigga? Are you in? Everybody? Then that Crystal and and that Spice ship and I was like, Wow, nig was passing out up in there this minute ago. You said they was wearing skinny jeans in there. Nigga's wearing skinny thermos in that motherfucker walking around in there. I sent, what the hell is going on around here? Man? Me out what state? California? In Oh? You was out of here? Hell yeah, that's why I started that he was out of state. I got caught up in Alabama,

ship ball back and forth. You know, I'm in the calley the whole time, just bobbing the Arizona, Oklahoma all that. If we can't, if we can't broke because we tried to do stuff in the timeline, Let's go back kind of like to the beginning. Before you got locked up, you was out of town doing your thing, and you got caught up right and I was in town doing my thing. Yeah, before taking down. Let me give him a little history. Boomer. Yeah, Boomer was with me during

the death rowd times. Me and Boomer branched off from shuging and bunching them, and we we've worked at let me ride out dry lings. Boomer was with me when I stripped Drake car. Everything in Drake Card. We took out a drake car and put in his car, and Boomer it was more advanced on the drive its. He was good and ship out man. We had this motherfucking ship strap and bumper. And then we would get the the guys that came and one of their cars did we would get having the money up front, do their

cars and get the other money after we finished the cars. Uh. Boomer and another one of the little homies. We was together when you know, certain individuals got out of line. You know what I'm saying. I said, I won't mentioned shop because you know I took my foot off his neck a long time ago. But when he would get out of line, we would uh get at him. Um hm.

Booming was in the thicket ship different from me at the beginning because he was he was the money maker, he was the he was the youngster, the little homie in the hood that was taking care of nephews, and he was taking care of family. You know, he was getting this I was wrong, taking care of his family at a young age. And that's what I always liked about him, my admiring for it, because he took care

of his family. He didn't hustle for Boomer he hustled for his family, and you know when he left, it seemed like a lot of ship disappeared at the Boomer left the hood and went to jail because you really didn't have that little homie structure that he had in the way he carried itself then, you know what I'm saying. So a lot of that was done, so you know, it was just whatever. But when he went to jail out and had just was killed two thousand and two, and I kind of like, you know, faded away from

all of that bullshit. So he's been around a long time and doing a lot of ship and living is like the right way, taking care of family, and then he got caught up and this is what burns today, you know what I'm saying. So it's just crazy that he survived twenty years sending this motherfucker, you know, yeah, with nothing. And I realized who was who when I when I got in there line, you know what I'm saying, a lot of homies, Uh they go buddies, Uh, philps

of liquor and all this weed and ship. I said, Damn, I'm from I'm from the mind whatever, you know, I said, Dawn, I can't like ten homies get together the slot of dove to the home. You know what I'm saying. That's quick twey of others right there, like or anything. You know, I have certain homies that roll with me to the wheels. Fell off my day one kick, you know, he never left me. And a few more family members and ship a little females and Ship was right with me too.

Home girls, you know, stay down. So I was. I was good anyway, but it just it just showed me, like how niggas really feel about the name. So I kind of eased off without when I got out right now, she ain't really no more. It's just you know, it's a certain circle like my nigga, right, but you know the certain niggas that I grow up with, they're still around. Man, So so good. You've been through the neighborhood since you've been on. Yeah, I've been through there. How different is it? I?

No Folk's Messico now what you call it Mexico Mexico as Yeah, yeah, that ship look crazy. That's something looks the same no more, right, I mean, And ain't nobody around there doing It's like there's nothing there, So niggas don't really be over there. Any more like that. Well that's a good thing for you. Show. That will pretty much keep you out of trouble though. Yeah, I got a grand baggy now, man, my grandbaby and my daughter there and uh you know my baby mama family still

and we'll be kicking kicking with them. She six, Oh man, she caught Paul crazy too? Is she my baby girl? Hell yeah, the real that's wrong and not kicking on Mars. You know, I left, you know, I put a lot of times off, took a lot of time with my mama. Man, so I chilled with her too, right right, that's about it really right now, my brother, you know my main family and ship, I said, So I'm not doing man, I mean, I ain't got nothing to prove, no mom ship.

I did my part ship, you know. So so before the show started, bro, we was talking about like, um, Tony Lane, homie Tony Lane. Yeah, you know he was um, he had um. He got an issue going on with his health. Now, so let's keep the homie black tune the prayers out there, you know what I mean, be

kind of stuff right now, you know what I mean. Know, but she was running around in circles with cats like that, man, sugar Free Crawl from you know, High Seat and Quicken Though Running Around and You wasn't one of sugar Free first music videos. Yeah, yeah, they looked straight him and his brother, you know. Yeah, Tone is a good cat man. Tone. I'm gonna tell you like this dog, Tone put a lot of money in my pocket, dog. Yeah. I recificated though.

I reciprocated for short though, because once I started getting my little one too cracking, I was able to kind of come back in certain situations that he had to where he might have needed helping stuff. I was able to look out for him, and that felt real good, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Is it all come back around? But Tone was always like a keen maker type cat. He always made sure everybody around him kind of had something, you know what

I mean? Yeah he was. Yeah, he's straight with me. No, we dealt with the other early nineties and all that, you know, Yeah, straight. I was the homie though on the rent I loved him Nick for sure. You get caught up, man, and you kicked your kicks. Man, what was your initial feelings? Like? Bro? When I called my case ship, I first called out billed out you know, and uh, and she was like getting rough like you know, it kept putting a lot of cases on me and ship.

I kept betting out and uh, at the minute I said, fucking start running. I got tired of that, said. I went from the I'm trying to I was trying to stay out on me. I shout out to Alabama and Ship and uh, you know, I had some trying to have some coming to me through the mill and I got cracked on me and it was it was a round from there. You know what I'm saying. Little family I was out there with was looking out for me

and let me stare at they packed. So when the people came there and take the girl to jail and the kids and all this, I said no when when they ship, I just took my case and said taking me to jail. I couldn't, you know. I went to and you know what about doing my family like that? So I took a little rapping ship. They gave me like three years for the whole ship. You know, ten years out there it's thirty percent. So they ran my chickn curve with my case out here as I was

going to court in cali Ate that time. Up and I got sent this out here for twenty five years, and they sent me back to Alabama. I owe them eight months. He did that. Then I came back home and start doing my time rut here. M hmm. What was the biggest thing? What was the biggest thing? Man? What was the biggest thing that kind of opened your eyes up when you first took down jail? Biggest thing over my eyes? Yeah, should I couldn't take care of my kids? Ship. I was like, damn, I look my kids,

my mom and that. But therselves. I was like, damn, I shouldn't really bother me. Yeah, you know what it seems like, man, It seemed like to me prisoners are almost mental strippers and part dignity. Yeah. And the biggest about the whole, the whole cat, I mean being in there's my baby boy landing in the cell with me for three years. Oh wow. That blew me away right there, Like damn no, hell yeah, let's talk about that for a minute, bro. So how did you bump into him?

You just you just pull. One day I was was calling the pad talking to my daughter breathe. She said, damn, why don't been calling? He said, Babe, Johnson, there I say't where shoot on sho on a yard on a yard. We're talking to the phone. Then he called and he clicked in and we started talking on the three way. I see what you're doing in there, boy, he said, possible messed up man and said so, I said, I'm trying to get you over with me. So I let the sergeant and he got you right over there with me.

He said, minute sain't no prison sucks and all this is a blood son. Man asked him some questions and should ask me some questions. And he asked him and found out like he said, he got him over there with me. Said you know what you're responsible for. Once whatever goes on, you responsible. So you know I'm keeping me a line. Let him stood him and ship what's going on? Talk to his mother? She said, still on his ass. You know, I stayed on. He wanted to get loose a little bit, you know, yass, I want

to get the game banging mentality. He didn't bang. That's one thing. I didn't allow him to do his bang good. I mean doing that. Nah. Nigga is smart. They're all smart. Anybody was smart. Man Like when the school got to the education. He just made a mistake, and so right he's out here be our next year and camp right now and be our next year. Okay, yeah that that really won't be up though, dogs like damn I quit

and sober way. You know what I'm saying, dude, that would kind of fuck you amazed that the fuck any person that they grew up in their next slim up in there with him. Hell yeah, man, niggas asked my son something, I'm trip what's something you said that little do? I was just how letty boomer? You know, I was on anybody, you know, you know, I was tripping, my nigga. That's it's different when your baby in there too. The whole place side. It's crazy for real, for real, for real.

So you got to so you got to like kind of shack up here for like three years there, three years. Yeah, we all we had the same support system, you know, and we you know, we're straight and need ship in there. We just need to get out. And where did you go and where did you go from there? Like once you complete your time over there, they transferred you out, right, Well, he left before me. We left before, so he left

before you did. Then. Yeah, that was the saddest day right there when he left, like damn, you know we both felt like no, so sitting in the sale, same sale. Now, this is crazy because I didn't. I didn't. I haven't had a seven before and my selling was alife. Yeah, you know, listening to his story, listening to him say he would never be able to touch money. This is him school and me telling me, man, this ain't the place to be. You know you would never I've never

touched money. I've never had sex with a woman. Again, I've never touched a woman's hand. Damn, you don't get visits, no like that. Sitting and sitting in the sale with your son for three years and you got time to school him. You got time to like really get on his head. Don't come back here. I was straight, I mean, you know what. It was a courage but blessed at the same time. You know, I really you know, ship, I sold me every day so much. I said, Damn, sun, I said, I said, you want to be arm me

so much, you can't follow me the president ship. We joked about the ship, but we closed on me and all my kids are close to me. It's like I never left the whole time, shaid, We all close that's good. My granddaughter even know me good. I got the video when I got out, she rans I got some videos, and you know, I could shoot to you. You know, it's just some cool ship. Yeah, it was nice. My beview, mother, my son, my daughter, and my granddaughter kind of picked

me up. Family, you know, family. The nick in the prisoners about the crowd when I walked out, huh why because they know how long I've been gone, and I got her love I got you know, and wait, you mean the front right, that's a good feeling man leaving up out of there man for like or Morey's show type of ship. Yeah. I couldn't believe I was leaving, So I got in the van, like, let me get up bout here. At first I got up out of it it. I was like, damn, I made it up out of there.

When you take down, man, when you touched back down in the free world, what was the first thing you did? But the first thing I did. I went in went to mims. I was hugged er and you know, chill, just you know, chopped on mother, Now my kids just chill for a minute. I went to a college. Huh, what do you what do you mean? The first, I think I did like for us on like food and stuff like that. You know, of course you can get out your family and stuff. Yeah, I got me some

some gumbo and ship some good gumbo. Man, I was well made that for me. I told that, you know, not because I got and I had to you know then that Yeah, yeah, I got a lot of homeboys. Man, you don't how to get the next batch? Stay man, the who the next best thing? You know? They had to gonna get to take something down man for sure, for sure, said you know what I was because I think we got a little bit of delay going on. I think it's a little slight delay, you know with

your phone. Yeah, So what I was saying was this when you came back home. Was it kind of like a shock for you a little bit to see how the world have changed since you have been doing? Yeah, you know what, it's it's funny. Yeah, it's kind of funny how these funny as people chat everybody, you know, these funny ass clothes and ship. That's about it. I'm looking at these names like, damn, I'm not wearing that ship. I had to get adapted to that all that, you know,

skinny jeans, I ain't wearing that ship there. But I'm just looking at all these all these fake booties and ship, and I'm like, damn, I spot him now. And well, you know it's you know, people do what they do though man ship. But I'm used to it. I mean it's cool. I'm I'm getting heresed to it. It's all right right now. All the ship, the cards, we tell you which way to go, turn left on roast crames, right, you know, all that ship. I'm tuning up for all

that crazy ship. Yeah, but ain't you know, but people say it was real hard out him. I don't. I don't see it like how they saying it. I guess the people who are sorry gonna be sorry anyway, say that you've been going twenty years in the sence people on the same block after twenty years. Yeah, yeah, that's sad to me. It is because twenty years you have

to find something to do. I know you could have been working that twenty years and and had something, but yet you like you still got homeboys still sitting on the block on the corner, you know, drinking beer. That ship is so old. We did that in the eighties. Here it is two thousand and twenty two and you're doing the same thing. And the sad part about the whole thing's like, I don't want I'm an alp for like a few we niggas got to ask me the ship already. I'm like, God damn, already. I did a

dub my Nick should be breaking me off. Cy asked me for money and ship. He was asked me for all type of ship. I was like, God damn, I just got out just what they thought they thought. I hit the money from the robbery, Like on my fucking us, Mrs Shoddy's I mean whatever the show that was. I know you had that money from the robbery, nigger. I don't know what they thought shout. I guess I don't know, man, but some people. But even if you did still happen.

You was just going over twenty years and a half family y'all here. Yeah, how I wouldn't even ask him abouy for ship. I mean, you know That's what I'm saying, bro. So when you was inside, man, because I've talked to James about that a lot, did you do your program when he was locked up? Did you really do your program to try to really just make your time go by some even like actually pick up some information that could be beneficial to you once you got out. Hell yeah,

I did all type of ship. Yeah you got trades from Yeah? I got everything I needed to make it out here. What kind of trade? Now? I was doing mechanic work, uh, warehouse ship, all kind of ship, electrician and ship, all types of ship that when I was in that camp, they had all type of ship up there. You know already knew half it. You know I knew shiity about cars already, actually working my pops already. You know I know about cars already. So I was working

mechanics and ship up there, all that ship. Man, I mean I'm kind of I got some good ship going. Did they no money? Yeah, I'm certified. Okay, you can want to make a serious money man, Yeah, Hell yeah I can't. Hell yeah, I'm going to make you serious money. Ain't no can. I'm going to make your serious money the best rush here. I know. That's right. Like them as far as like religion or anything, did you um, because I'll do a lot of brothers. I know when they go to jail, they wind up come they want

to convert the Islam. No, I still I still in my part shops funk all that I just work out. Man, I ain't gonna do that ship. That's cool though, I'm saying, though, shot, somebody wants the banking side, how might eat it? You know, and it ain't gonna hurt you. I mean, why you got most smoke dope. They smoke dope, So why ain't making Yeah, now, let me ask you about that, man, because in prison you can get anything that you're get in the free world pretty much exception. You can get

that too. Married ship. Yeah, so so marry. So you're doing your time bro in there. Did you ever have any incidents man that you felt like that you might not make it home? Did you ever have a time like that when he was locked up? It's twenty years a long time. Well, I mean I didn't had to put, you know, do some little ship. But you know, I figured out I gotta I got. I got away from

motherfucker's That's all I said. I started hanging with Nikes from the Bay Area and all type of ship that was from the bullshit you know you got home is getting drunk starting dumb ships. So I gotta wait from it. I'm trying to get up out of there. I ain't. You ain't gonna do what everybody else do, ship whenever to get home. Huh. That's just crazy to hear you talking about man kids and they're getting drunk and high they were just they're doing anything like that. Everything's out there. Yeah,

everything in there, that's crazy. Man, mother, mother, smoking, motherfucking maybe doing speed all anything you name out that, they got it. So people ask me how I do it? So so if you were so, if you're a cluck on the street and you go to sail, you can continue being the same cluck you was on the street. If you don't straighten your ship out there, yeah you get you get bumped out in jail. If you got somebody on the outside, they got money. You can get

whatever you want off that yard because I can't. Is gonna be way and you'll play. You'll get less for high. That's all you getting worked, working and shoot out your people, right son, whatever you're working. Yeah, that ship it ain't worked for to me, you know, especial if you're using it and ship it's like as soon as you get your pack little package, what do you give it to the man? I see you should go down there. Man. People daily routine for you. Was up in the morning,

go here to the yard. We'll go eat, yeah, work out, read my little books and stuff. You know. I read my obviously my little stock, but I was reading on kind of little bucks man, educate myself, you know, right. So just what yeah, I just like I said, woke up in the morning, come gonna workout on you know what I'm saying, shout up, going there and read you know this to my oodies all day soap. Hell, No, I don't watch the young you know, No, I didn't

do that. I mean sometime I watching the little shows, don't you know. But you know I want TV crazy. I like music better than TV. Hey, we took a break from school. We went I went straight to the dorm, ship down and watched Younger and Restless. We watched General Hospital, and I'm talking about damn the ever nigg the motherfucker module. Watch us into it, man. Huh yeah, he said here he was talking about that show all the time. Yeah, some people did that. Yeah, man, So you were in

there doing your time. Man. And I've never been locked up before outside of just some little punk ass stuff, you know, bail off, you know, traffic ticket type. Ship you know, back in the day, I couldn't havemaged. I

couldn't imagine being locked up, man. And it's like because when you locked up and you imprisoned, it's almost like you did man, because I got homeboys, Like I said this, locked up and when they call, they want to keep you on the phone all day because they want to know what's going on on the outside, like calling three times a day. What's up with someone? So, what's up with this? What's up with that? What's going on? Did you ever feel like at a time in there, man,

that you just like shut off from the outside. What I'm talking outside of your family. I'm talking about people that you thought was your homeboys and outside your riding die cats. They seem like they just disappeared. Yeah they did. Sh ain't then I just wrote a lot of ladders too, you know, to family and you know, little females. I was then the wind. So I was cool. I was

found out of it. I found up. I need to know, I make one call, you know, I can't, Like I said, I kept somebody on that put me kept me up updated on what was going on. You know what I'm saying. You know, I was good with that though, just let me know what I gotta do when I get out. That's all right, I ain't trimping. It was my fault. I went to jail with the wrong names, and I got to pay for I had to do my time. My mouth now, so that part two said, I'm free,

I'm happy now. Just came again at you and asked you what was it like enough for mother? When it was like they better going in experiences themselves because it might be different for the anyone from me. That's that's what we don't want them to do, because a lot of a lot of these young cats wouldn't build like we were back in the days. A lot of a lot of them young kids cannot do twenty years. You know.

It's not tell me if I'm wrong. Yeah, they ain't gonna do twenty years these days, go man, because they get they getting right out. Time, they getting right out. They're just going to ain't no but dope heads, man, that's all they know. They ain't going if if if the if the average kid that they get twenty years, twenty years yourself in the man, the big cats gonna

use them. They're gonna they're gonna and and nine times out of ten is one of the o g homies that they thinking that it's gonna embrace them that turn them out, you know what I'm saying. So being imprisoned for twenty years, you're gonna run into something, you know what I'm saying. And by running into that, you gotta know how to handle it, how to deal with it. And people imprisoned, they got to know you serious. Because of taking you serious, you're gonna have a lot of

problems in there. And this is just what the movimakers don't need. You know, I'm serious. I've seen from the from the module, your prison breaking from out street, the one that got the front front getting raped in the county jail. You know what I'm saying that, you know, it ain't like it ain't like that numb more that that ship. You know, it ain't any man. Prison is soft man. It's like a juvenile hall back. Just a bunch of youngsters in there. It ain't like the number

one wellim Duty in there. And when I talked to Duty, Duty said, oh no, I understand the politics now, because you know he was a little hot here at first. And you know I told my sister, I said, Duty is not gonna make it in prison. He's gonna be in the whole the majority of his time in there. Because he was a hot head. And you know he already labeled himself with with the big P on the side of his face. Um, with his game mentality. He

was just like off the chain. But when I talked to him, because I told my sister, there those those those o g is gonna come in there. It might be a Muslim, might be a b GF. Somebody gonna come highlight and and say, check this out, youngster, that this ain't how we program. We don't do this here. We ain't getting down like that. Here. We gotta protect ourselves. We watch each other. And Duty Duty really got some that right right now. Duty act like like he a

grown man. Now. He talked like a grown man. So it taught him, you know what I'm saying, But it depends when you start. He was starting a four yard to be a little different. A lot of people come straight to the two receptions to the camp, so they never got just to learn nothing. Man, that's what it means. Get the hit the forest and all that. Right, let me ask you this real quick boomer for the people after that don't know about prison. Were you in the were you in the phase you he was an extra

penitentiary system. That was a state man. You didn't go to the face. Still he was doing state time then time. So so so what's the four years to live a four? Right? Yeah, little folk, you be on lockdown most of the time. You don't do should be everything in the sell You come out and take a shower, You go back into cell and go to yard for a couple of hours, go back and just sell time. Really, you can't live in a cell, you know, that's all that is shell time.

Go ahead, next level three yards, get give a little more looser, be out all day. You go to the two than the one. One is the lowest level. Man, that's when you know you're gonna get to the past. She should have look captin it ain't it ain't hard to to stay out of gym. So ain't stand level three. And I started off in Abanag with twelve points and zero points to a level three and I wind up

a number three because of the gang ship. And I got into it with a with a prison guard, you know, walking through the child line, and had an issue with the guard, a female guard at that and she wouldn't nutty on me, and I spit on her ass, and the motherfucker's putting me in the goddamn whole. I stayed in very months. You started on the phone, transferred me out of Abanag. Then I started on the four yard. You started on the four yard. I started on the

one yard. So he went up, damn you. I went up. Happen. I went to court, I mean I went to see him see from MC East. I got rolled up from CNC West. Then they put me in CMC East with with the libraries. That's what I had to sell it for a libry, and I stayed in there. The hole was uh full, so they put me in the cell. So from there they rolled me up and I went to Courtoral and from Corporan. That's when I got. When I got to Corporate, I said, okay, fuck this ship.

You know, my son coming up here, and I felt I just felt bad that I went out there with my son. You know what I'm saying. He got some back right. And the game bangers on the level three yards was totally different from level one. You know, there was more subtle. We played football against them, uh you know, we pretty much watched each other, you know, and I was able to parode. And when I road the first thing that guard he said to me before they put me on the bus and took me to the county jail.

They didn't I didn't go home and get on the bus and then you know that bad take you to the bus when I when I proposed I had for warrens. Timmy had four Warrens in my name out here on the street right. So they back to the county jail. So I had to stand the county jail for a couple of days, went to court. They did the uh that hand out of this ship had my foker to say that this ain't him, No, it ain't me. I've

been in prison. So I was the first time seeing ounting and four years because Aunton had got out and then went back on the violation. And I met him in the county jail. Ran it to him in the county jail when I'm went came when I came down, and you know, I I ain't been to prison. This yeah, you don't go to jail, ship, but but the thing was coming in prison. It ain't if you game banging, your game banging and you're going to the whole. You you get, you're gonna get a case, sue a knife,

and you're gonna protect yourself or we have. When we was in there going to the blind, get your fight on and do whatever. And I saw a vista whatever. But when I got rolled up to go to MC East, one cat spoke on our crew and he shouldn't have. And one of the one of our own g homies was in there and he said, uh, I said that if we allow this, then the grips don't think we

ain't ship. So just a nigger. So I put on my jacket, my gloves and I go in the nigga dorn and he was in the shower where my dumbass fucked up. Where they showers is they guard uh the little the office is right across from the shower. You walk out the shower, you look straight at the guards. So when I went in there and sucked the nigga up, I came out of there and hit that back door to the door and CNC. So I'm walking. They knew who I was because I was wet, and they rolled

my ass up. Went over there to the east from ned courtand so prison wasn't nothing different for me, but it was just street ship and the only difference was being locked up and can't do what the funk you wanna do? Yeah that say, yeah, you know what, every gang is together in that motherfucker. No, the cryptus hang out together now. We used to be on site that should ain't having no moment. Yeah, because they've learned that

every other protect his own and they they together. Colors Man said, did you know the other people they be ship? They'll be honest. You know, everybody hate us in it, but they want to be like us for some reason. I don't know what it is. Do you got something you know that's I can't say all I'm like that. You know you got a certain in the visures that

act like that. You know, Let's see what you have is you got you got some of that says that played basketball with you, you know yea brothers that play that handball real chuck. Everybody is cool and to the tension when the crack off they sign you got to go with your folks. That's the thing when it's time to trying to ride. Yeah, good though, man, you know what I'm saying. Say one thing I wanted to ask you man, and I've never got to ask you this before. And I'm gonna go We're gonna go back to the

prison stuff. But I wanted to talk about when y'alls working, and let me write how profics right now, that's a little riding. It was expensive to the motherfucker dog. Yeah. When did he say to you when he came back to get this ship. He didn't say nothing. Yeah, I sent him in the alley and we was in the backyard and my MoMA's house. Everybody was in the back playing basketball. He just said, uh, how you like the car.

But at that time, me and booming and Booming had stripped that motherfucker down off four wheels, the the all the dry licks, everything got the motherfucking the music going, everything going on it, and uh, George and then came and got the car. Well, when George and Then came and got the car, me and my daughter's mama was was having to fight in the front yard. And uh, she took two right, So when she took too, I took four and she got off the ground norm I

swear to God two stories. She got off the ground bleeding, and she did like this, and she tasted the blood and she just got to go here. Remember my station wagon, the blue station wagon. I had woman because if this was none of you on me, right, And she grabbed the mop and she started beating the windship with the mop. So I told George to pull my cat like down the streets. So when he pulled my cat like down the street, mind you, they're trying to put tires on the on the folk and uh, I tell you to

move my car down the street. And when I got out of the car, chased around the car. She got in the car chasing me. Right, So I had to dive into bushes like my guyber and ship and the bits came in hit my car. George left my car door open and she hit my car door and I just went crazy because I couldn't close the door. None

of that ship. But anyway, they came down they seen everything going in the engine went really ship, so we didn't, right, yeah, So but everything that we took out the car, we put it in boomers and that was the deuce, right yeah, And let me ride and he had to how this ship out there? What makes you want some ship like nigga? Where my stuff in my car? Would you bust his motherfucking notes. I don't think. I don't think think Dame was that type of guy. He was kind of nice man,

and you know, I didn't he went like that. He was wasn't it wasn't even dred yeah with its fat dude. It was the fact that the handing into the head tried to pay pay James and been all right, that's all that was exactly period and when when about right though, so he wanted to be Yeah, that called a big ball. You got the wrong one on. Yeah, So I showed them, Okay, I'll think you're wont get the car back, come get it. But we took all that ship out of there, took

the coals everything. Huh, yeah, yeah, I think that's some new coils. Though I got to I got small coils. I got a little righter by the time he got finished. Hey he put the ship together. It south Yeah, we yeah, I think yeah, I got to go with some. Uh. The line was something was Randolph one of them, I want some going was from Yeah. The cold thing. She never said, you are me for the car. Now they're

coming they come in and let me. But they're coming up there, and you know, they was getting They were so mad that we was doing cool because you know, I hired my grandfather, I hired my uncle as mechanics. We had the two masks and me and Boo. Yeah, he was really working though off. Really he really had had a shot, one like a real shot. So they were trying to shut it down. And then I had to get back in and then you know, all hell

grow blues niggers was talking crazy. But then we had to run into niggas and Louis Burgers shop come in. How on me and was thinking on ship didn't really know about and I had, you know, like yeah, yeah, you don't know. It wasn't it wasn't Drake far it was it was Supe and you know, Drake worth a billion dollars now. So I don't even trip off of that car, you know what I'm saying. It ain't like I made money off of it. Everything in the car, Boomer got it. I gave it. I didn't want the car.

I wasn't, you know. The saying was y'all working y'all was working a death row together too, right, Yeah, I mean that's part of the Yeah, all that ship, it's all just you know, yeah, that's crazy, man, Because I remember hearing about the cats over there from man, y'all was running around this motherfucker like, man, man, I mean we were just doing, you know, doing our thing. Man. It was it was good at the time, so why

not shap everybody was getting the check. Yeah, we got play roads different and it was fun when it was the one was last check, you know. Yeah. The problem was certain individuals getting mad because they wouldn't get what the next person was getting. Yeah, we was good. We wouldn't my focus. We was doing so good. I was want to come in. What we doing? I'm like, hell no, we were straight. Well we got up there. It was

was confusing. Anybody want to come or get keys to the shop and I'm like, hell no, what do you do all that? Hey, let's do our point right there and running and we do. Yeah, we got drunk up in their motherfucker's We have women and night up in their motherfucker. I mean it was cracking. You don't want to go out of town. Everything is right here, you know.

Was h you know, in my in my house with me a pam ship Joe to see all them niggas would come through, came through, they shoot you know, my mother. The mob was celebrity niggas. We was regular game banging and thingers. We didn't we didn't bite into that. Oh that's whoo whoo. I think it's so man. You know what I'm saying. I'my Hills, right, you got white people calling me boooroo, rich white mouth. I'm like, hey booloom, like what the fuck? You know? It was crazy man?

That she was crazy? Oh man, George all the month was like booloo, what would you like on your burger? Oh? It's crazy a it's some crazy ship man. But see on the problem was we're trying to get out the hood and get to another level. Somebody. Ever, then he could much the experience too much. When it was coming up, trying to stay in this ship, trying to prove something right, it was backwards. We're trying to lead that ship. We trying to we did that was kids, sh we trying

to a better life. It was one of those six ways to where y'all was pretty much going out there doing with your deal for coming back to your neighborhoods at night. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of some bullshit, you know what I mean? Like that we're trying to we're trying to get out of that ship. Me and

my daughter Mama was living together. I was giving parties every Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, and it was And then we had the football games on the weekend, and we had cats from all different parts of l a uh San Diego, like Emerald Hills. We had mothers coming to play football against us and then go to my house and to the next motherfucking day, you know. And some of them casts wren't leaving until a Tuesday on Wednesday. So,

I mean, we were just having a good time. We was having a good time, and then a lot of a lot of the bushes started and you know, it just wasn't working, you know, putting yourself out there like that, I wish I don't know same. Let me ask you something. I ain't trying to be messy. Man was up there knocking Marry zat bliged. Is it true? Who was? Uh? You know, I've heard a couple of different people, Well, I don't know that. Lady ain't never did nothing to me,

and angles never speak bad on that lady. You know, A lot of ship was going on in depth Row at the time, and a lot of these female artists and people was kicking it up there and they all pretty much everybody did the same thing, getting sucked up, and it was what it was. Did I sit back and try to just know I wouldn't part of that type of ship, so you know I wouldn't. I wouldn't have one that should say go whoop his ass? You got the wrong one? How may you go with? Yeah?

I did shout my ownline set ship. I ain't even gets on nick. I was just I was using all that. I don't even I don't need not ne said like that, right, So I mean it was what it was. Nor Yeah, but if you nigger wanted his ass, whoof he got his ass with for real? For real? Yeah, we don't. Yeah, you know what happened, but they just go on out for you know, you were crazy part of the James I saw. I saw Shi the Knight that he got into it with the cat the barber captain with the ship.

Uh glass is actually song. We was we was going inside of the House of Blues, right, you know show they should was back there standing and you know we were just kind of all out there talking. Right. Uh, we was out there talking and you know, just kicking and shoot, wasn't that no kind of way or nothing. It was cool, you know what I'm saying. But then I heard later on the night, because you're like you're hanging up in Hollywood, somebody told me and said, man,

something just not shug out with it. Hit him with a stick. The first they was saying it was a stick. Then I heard it was a crowbar or something like that, you know, something like that. But it was that did it. You know, he was on the motorcycle set. You know at the time he was cutting half. But that don't mean he ain't he wouldn't win it. Um. At that time, it was a lot of ship going on. It was a lot of brothers, a lot of homies that when hanging was showed no more. That's that's what I told you.

I said, I said, damn, he must be some weird niggas because uh and and you know dank with the business. So oh the young homies, that's you know, yeah they're straight. But yeah, how how certain homies were around people don't even come around you like that. Certain niggles there you come up. So you know, I just not saying like taking up in the little homies though, but you know they're straight. But you know how certain the homies there,

they scared to come around us, that's all. So you know what that ship though, man, if you if you're going from from from the cats that you had on Death Blow, the Jews, the buzzers that has the that you know, some of them fresh out of prison. It was ready to go. They was getting paid for knocking niggers out. You know, this is what we do and we're gonna get paid for it. Yeah, they were master mechanics at this ship. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So should not have them in your corner no more?

People see this now Now motherfucker's is throwing drinks on you. Now, Motherfucker's is Oh he ain't got them niggas no more. Oh yeah niggas. I want to get at it. And that's what happened that night. So you know, so the heat off they knew they was working with je niggas and and they knew by the way it happened to niggas was built that they just got out of prison. So now times out of team, you don't want that

that that kind of that kind of problem. So SHO was good at that time, you know what I'm saying, but when everybody fell off, all you got us a little homies and they wouldn't then particularly scared or worried about that. So he a lot of ships started having sugar that got shot. There was no repercussions, you know, just ships. Did nothing happen if no retaliation, And you know that's what the hood was built on. You get one of us, We're coming to get you. Uh. That's

that's how niggas was getting down back then. Oh no, we're gonna sunk all you niggas up. So what he ain't here, We're gonna get you niggas, and you have to. I feel like I feel like we got kind of worked over there and we got some little ship. We got cribs like a motherfucker. Man. That's why the ship went back like this. That's why she went back because you know what, everybody got paid. Everybody got paid. I everybody been rich right now, and they would have had

puk and big. We have been living. We've had fifty and spit Uh eminem. Anybody been on that ship that should have blow all the way up? Man. To share play your artists, it's really simple. Bro. I worked in the music business, and when you run up like a business. It doesn't function. I tell people that you cannot bring guerrilla business into the or room. They just do not work. Yeah, I used to tell cats because I worked for a

publishing company. So whenever the black people come in and I worked for some people doing from England, right, they weren't doing for it. They weren't going for it. So when you know, certain kids to come in and get the talk, and they wanted this and that. I would come in and I'd like say, bro, let me hear your music. If you ain't got no music, it ain't happening. Well, I'm gonna say this to you. I beg it different

because it worked for Shi. She'll got a master motherfucking plan and he made millions of dollars with the hood and then bam, what happened was that he didn't pay, He didn't look out for those that helped him get where he was at. Then on top of that, on top of that, she She'll didn't do no drugs. She'll

didn't know we should didn't do none of that. Ship he had now motherfucker's to infiltrate and him in and he started participating and ship that he never did, never did so he started not giving the funk about certain things, and you know that would shug demise, you know, not really paying attention and not really stand on top of business. Should your Should would have shut shipped down and put sue some the homies and and made up made the

security business legit. Sheould was still be functioning and doing this thing right now, dog, then you know I'm saying, I'm gonna tell you something to see now. When Should initially came in, you had to have a little bit of that muscle mentality, that guerrilla mentality, because that's just what was going on in l A, right. But once she was ablished stuff she wants to death. Row had the best music at the time. You don't have to do all that ship like once. You'll put the like

once y'all put the initial people down, y'all. That should have been it. Y'all should have all been dressed in suits. It should have been all though some cool stuff. What's up, brother? How you doing? Y'all had the music already, y'all had the money, And that's what I mean. The gorilla ship has to be there, right, It's a necessary component. But you can't let that beat your whole thing bro eventually and it has to turn to a business the words like, man,

we're not get down like that. This is what we're doing because now you got the music, and then she'd have got nonna smash. Yeah, everybody wanted them to manage them right right now. You have to know when to photo. You have to know when to say, Okay, let's make this legit right here, we're not gonna do this. We're not gonna do this way, and then we're not gonna come so gangster to all these Beverly Hill parties and ship.

It's like we have every cop we can let one of them blow up and then look out for the homies in the hood. It's just all kind of ship. Could have just let me ride hydraulics. Everybody could have came them, let me buye to us men and and learn the trade how to fix slow rides. They could have turned to how to reinforced the frames. We had all all that boomer know how to how to fun with them pumps, them dumps and ship and the best side of it, I mean, he was good at that ship.

So we could have had the little homies come through the that's in the hood come and learn some ship. But we didn't do that. We started fighting amongst each other because of one motherfucker seeing the next nigger check and was like, oh wow, you know everyone someone were driving all kind of ship that she got to stop all kind of ship. An easy, I said, doing the same thing. We all had the same time. She was no bigger than than a boomer, than than than than

an outing, than than a jew. That he wasn't no bigger than none of them. So everybody should have been getting the same salary regardless. He says, there was enough. And that's what I'm telling you, man, is I worked in the music business. There was enough money change the world. Like you said, if you want to put suits on

the security should could have afforded at that time. But all the stuff he had going and he didn't have to spend his money, he could have gave out in the label and said, hey, you gotts for go find you a wrapper. We're gonna get you a label. Because there was a lot of people that wanted to funk with should but couldn't necessarily fun with him because of the Greek he ever interscope. He could have put that he could have ended up put out and over in

the depth jam building. He could have want to put ship, let us do our thing and you keep the other ship. Professional you know that, well, he gonna pick up out the tacks and other buildings. It wouldn't even have to touch his money. Like if he the game, let's say either game country his own lady bounty. You got nephew with the wrap, go start your things over there. We're gonna make it just let death throw distributed. But it's in death jam. Go pick up that budget. Now everybody

got money. Once everybody got money, you're not even gonna be on that time. Gonna work as y'all living from your houses out in the valley you live. Ain't nobody relation because at the end of the day, bro, everybody wants the same ship. Don't know, nigger want to be out your team and ship up living things, don't everybody's want to profile play families. They're making you gotta where. He's picking up a check for two fifty three hundred thousand. He getting them carew if you live, we go get

his baby, MoMA and his kids. Put him in there. He's not gonna want to funk that up. He's not before unless she could have turned like that, So we could have got like all these hoods is beeping around them because have got a g from each hood. Everybody put their ship together and blow up, you know, say like it took everybody been fighting over that ship. That was the plan. That was that was the plan, like

in the middle of it. And and you know, but what happened was she get incorporated g niggas from different hoods and kept it on the gang banking mentality, on the guy mentality. And my whole thing, just like chelling buntry. You cannot survive being the tough guy every motherfucking day, every time you go out. You're not gonna win every battle. Yeah. And and at the end of the day, oh nigga, you're trying, you're drinking. Yeah, but I'm telling you, motherfucker's

the truth. I'm telling you the truth. I know. I said, I seen this covering and then ship started happening, you feel me? So? Yeah, it should should have took advice from from those that was in the hood that been there, had done that, that know what's going to go the rouster. Take the ones that knew how to do certain things, that had skills and certain different avenues areas he should

have took the advice of it. James, I'm gonna tell you something, bro, because I really worked in the music industry. I worked for Money Music Publishing for six years, and at that time everybody it was Tony Lincoln had a deal they had to deal with at Island Records. Right at Island Records, I was in the studio when Um Sugar Free was recording the new album and one d gold Stained from Capital Offer Black Tone a million dollars um lead forward at this label. Leafard had a nice label. Dog.

They gave you at that time by death from being so hot. Every block of label wanted to be in business with him. They couldn't. That's what he was supposed to say. You know what, James, I know you're gonna get about the music, but you can get this label. We go make you an executive Nigger. You gonna go over here and we gonna get you a label. You

gonna manage this sixituation. Everybody, y'all. Man. At that time, it was so much money in music, Dog, and he was giving niggas who would have five million dollars Dog Online. Ain't getting all this down on this bull ship. Everything even download music type of ship. But boom, mother telling you something. There's a lot of money in this ship

right now. There's still money, it's just different. The money is different way because now you have to participate in the show money with the artists and the publishing this stuff. But it's actually more money. I wish you ain't got a manufactional CDs, right, you can want to go play them off a single dog like like I was listening to the young boy Um the hot Nigger to look dude with the jail right. Uh. They said that his regular label, Deaf Jam made ten million dollars off that single.

He made one million dollars, So it's still a lot of money in his treatment. There's a lot of money in the should could have should be cause it created How Junta get a billion dollars? How Kanye don't make the billion dollars? Should have could have made a billion dollars and changed the whole trajectory of his whole neighborhood. She would would have made a billion dollars man two thousand, two thousand and two, he'd have been a billion. Then

he would have everybody. You gotta think about it, bro, Jimmy Yavin loved him, he would have walked up. But then, first of all, he should have never got the trades, old lady, he still had a trade. Therefore he would have eminem, he would have fifty six. Uh, I'm gonna tell you, doing everything right. Shouts out to nigga, Dude, don't go over that TV when the Jesus niggas out here from the niggasays you don't never hear his name and the bullshit you don't see him. That's how the

boss supped to be. The bulls are supposed to be in the cutter. Yeah, supposed to magazines. Assuming should have got to get no magazines and smoke a stick arts. Motherfucker's that's when she got sucked up. You're not gonna see dude. Don't doing that ship are Your job was to do the dirty work. Our job was to fight. He wouldn't have supposed to involve his ship and none of that. He wasn't supposed to been seen and none of that. That was that's our job. You Compton against

Compton should leave, that's our job. He should have never been seen on camera. That's our motherfucking job. Nigga is getting paid for it. Why fighting put away and that's of money. But that nigga real for me was I'm gonna tell you the night tu part did what he did and hit that man. He should have never been there.

If somebody should have grabbed his ass, choked his ass out Truggs at the bathroom when you should have had this as the first thing smoking the first time, this kind of thing, I wouldn't have game to New York. Some motherfucking were the asset. You gotta protect the asser. That's the money, right, is real and that game the celebrity hit me, you mutch with the house of the same ship. You know that Cray This is real that you know goddamn a movie. This ain't no motherfucking juice

damn game. I tell everybody when when because it was part that hitting. He felt like he wasn't going back to the hood and no rappers may get hitting and jumped on it. He had get back and he was and he was was of real little game banger over there. So the funk up part about it is I'm gonna say the homies, which is us was slacking slipping for that car to come up, and it shouldn't happened the way it did. It shouldn't have happened like that, you know what I'm saying. You know the crazy part about

that night. I've seen y'all leaving from the gas station seventy six. I didn't go that night, right, That ship is crazy, But I mean, you don't knowing. Ship happens. And I recognized a lot of bullshit that I've done in my lifetime, and that's a whole bunch of bulletshit. It could have been a worse one. It could have been worse. It could have been worse. Yeah, but you know a lot of us can actually say that we made it through the ship. Look at twenty years and

he at home with his grand baby. You know what my life she Yeah, so we all went through it. Yeah, we all went through We all should have been rich too, are you damn right? We should have told let me ride out. Draulics right now, especially cut out and when when I know we should sold up. It ain't over though, man, were still here ship, you know ship. Yeah. Yeah, you're

a man and you think you can't live in the past. Man, But we gotta learn from the past, right, Yeah, you know what I mean, because it's the right way to do this stuff, James, And I'm telling you see at the time the climate we was in that worked back then. Yeah, it wouldn't work today because the record labels have a plan for stuff like that. They said, if there would never be another nigga like this again, right, we allow people to make money. We can go make plenty of money.

But all that ship beating niggers up and extort niggas and all that ship that's not happening. They put niggas up under the motherfucking jail for that ship. Yeah, you go up in that building. You gotta have when you go on the Regglar label right now, because of death row, you gotta show your I D. When you're going up that motherfucker. You're not even gonna get up, but you're not even gonna get word of you had. You just

can't work up with the record label no more. Before you used to be to kind of slide up in the record label, you know what I mean, You up the stairs and somebody might ask you what you're doing here or whatever like that. But now it's not happening, and there's a lot of money still out there. Dog, there's a lot of papers steel out there, So I just tell brothers that still got asked, especially for cats like y'all that got notoriety in the streets. You feel

what I'm saying. It's it's a lot of little younger talented cats in the hood, dog that still got talent. They just don't have no directions. My little son hard as hell. There on the mike there and go right there, because right now, Like I met a nicket the other day, right and he was talking to me, and I'm thinking he in excited if he's like now, I'm trying to get in his music game. And I say, well, um, what you're trying to do? Manage? You got an artist?

Oh no, it's me. I'm like, nigga, you forty five years old, don't find you a little niggets Plenty of little niggas thirty thirty, thirty third, maybe thirty five, depending on how the nigked look. He could probably get away with it. But that's a younger man's game. You supposed to want to be the boss man, nigga. You know what, you gotta be exceptionally well. It can't happen though, because I'm gonna tell you this just started. It'll be It'll

be extremely hard exams. You would have to be incredible as an artist. I would say thirty thirty five is probably as a pre new nigga. I'm talking about brands making new nigked Now. Once you won't you're can wrapt in your fifty if you want to. Once you establish yourself, you can wrap to you sixty years old, this you got, you got Dr Dre and all of them going on to it right right, Yeah, if people come to see them wrap yeah, but years man, they're special man, just

like I kid. You know he he can bust something we want to that that's you see James the thing else they're established. Like let's say, if let's like, look I got a little artist I signed, right he years old. If we're working him and dropping projects every six months like we're playing too, and he get good at it, he could wrap to the sixty people canna still be buying it because if fan base is growing with you

kinda you feel what I'm saying. Train right now, it was like he's been around for so long he can still do what he wants to. You feel what I'm saying, He's still making great music. I'll talk about a brand spanking new nicking and nobody get heard of. You feel what I'm saying. But if you want your like Rick Ross, Rick Ross didn't get on sleeve with thirty five. But then Nigga made cold music, right, he made you make great music. So you see what I'm saying. And he

got swagging like a motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. He looked like you gotta have your costume on. You know, Rick Ross got the bear, the cousand dollars, saved the jewelry and ship. You know you gotta ship right, but ship man on Boom, I'm glad we asked you on dog to chop it up with you. Man. You know we've got to get you your person dog. Yeah, that workout, man, for sure. For sure. We've figured something out, man. And you know what, ain't nothing else to say. We have

this motherfucker all Right's nice telling me, y'all. Man, you know I'm all the time A well. That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be Shooter downloaded. I heard that been. Subscribe to Against the Crime Nicles podcast for Apple users. Find that purple Mica on the front screening your phone. Subscribe to the show, leave for comment and a Rating. Executive producers for the Gangster Chronicles of

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