FACE OFF: "The Gene Deal Episode"

In fact, we got stronger and we had a lot of talk about it was up, it was up? Oh nothing, No that I go by James big Bro. I apologize, I truly apologize. It's all good. It's all good. I want to send out all whatever was articulated to you in some kind of way. Um, I want to send like I send my apologies out to you. And as long as you know we are gentlemen first, you know what I'm saying, don't come into a conversation or anything as a gentleman. Well we're good, brother, you know what

I'm saying. Uh, I heard you lost. I know you lost your brother to the game. I lost my brother. I thought he was in the streets to St. Louis. And I know I know of some of the pain you may feel because I felt that pain too. You know what I mean? Right well? You know I'm I'm actually getting over that. You know what I'm saying, my brother. You know that the hatred I had, for sure. Um, I'm I'm pretty much over that. You know, I'm letting the rest. I'm done with it. Uh. I know there's

nothing I can do about that, you know what I'm saying. Um, I know you know I can't. But I can't be mad at shild forever. I ain't trying to be mad at you forever. You know. I can forgive, but I can't forget. You feel me, But I'm not gonna go every day feeling the way I used to feel. It just wasn't healthy from me, you know what I'm saying. So you know, and I know everybody across the board field that way, you know, Biggie Mama, Tupac Mama. You know,

everybody lost somebody to this, to the bs. You feel me, So, I mean, I think everybody just needs to get over it. Um. You know, I listened to you talk and I listened to a lot that you have to say about the situation, about the way Puff was pretty much the same way that should was. And you know, like I was telling you earlier, a lot of people don't, don't you know,

they're paying attention to the wrong thing. You know, we're praising, you know, these two guys, but then we're not really thinking about the depths of of of Tupac, Biggie and all the other cats that lost their lives. We got a lot of cats out of here that's dead behind this East Coast West Coast ship, and and you know, the guys that hate each other because of the situation. So it's a lot of it's a lot of us involved in some ship that that shouldn't have never been.

And right down to day, we still got brothers not working with each other on on some man, I ain't working with that NIGGD ship, you know what I'm saying. I listened to the interview you had with uh, what's his name, Little Sees or somebody you had an interview with with Mace, and and right off the top I knew it wasn't. We can't get nowhere if we start arguing with each other opposed to. You know, I think y'all should have had a conversation before like we did before.

You know, y'all tapped in with each other and other people can hear what the fun was going on. Uh, we opened the door for social media to come in and comment on the ship that we're talking about or that what's going on now. Everybody voiced their own opinion. But then we get mad at the ship of you know, the comments that are being said because you had some people on his side, you had a lot of people on your side. I mean where we draw the line at.

You know what I'm saying. Everybody gonna voice stay own opinion on on on how they felt. And you know, one he said, you had a fister, why you didn't shoot? If you was in the same boat, why you didn't. So, I mean, that's my opinion on it. If he could say that, why didn't he reacted sir kind of way to the situation. Well, to piggyback on that Mace, Mace was only being sadistic in the manner with which after Big got killed. Me and Mace had a conversation directly

after Big got killed. You understand, I was one of the people that he called. We spoke on the telephone, you understand, And I could have been Mace raighted way out the water because Brandy was not in the room with Mace during the time they got killed, right. She was trying to get Mace out the room because Mace told me, Yo, Brandy kept calling me trying to get me out the room, and I told I wasn't going nowhere. I could have blew him out the water without because

he forgot that, he told me. Now, maybe she went to the room after Big got killed to console him, or whatever the fact they may be. I'm never said Mace blew that I had blew that light at the corner, you understand. Because the dude who was looking out for Mace named Tone. He the one who saw the individual pull a weapon at the corner, you understand. He told him we think reverse or turn around? He forward. So it's nothing I can do on that time. What do

I makes an innocent bystander? Right, so you know, and and that acpect he knew the whole thing, but what he had to do he had to save himself. He had to save himself because he knew not to go to the party. Puff ain't Puff ain't make him go to the party like he made Beg go to the park. See, people don't understand that every time Puff hit the streets

in California, I was next to him. I was right next to him, except that one day and which he took d Rock with him with Sally Richardson and some other people so he could party or have fun or do whatever they were doing. So he could convinced Rock that he wanted to go to that party. He needed to get big to that part. Even today, if you hear snoop and somebody sent me him a snoop online on Instagram and Pump brought up, you know, like it was a fake East Coast West Coast Walk. How does

it fake East Coast West Coast Walk? When people lost their life, people couldn't travel, people didn't feel safe. How was that fake? But he still want to put that out there because he don't want to admit so I know, Pump, people don't want me, Yo, Jane, let it go, Let it go, man, listen to me. I don't hate that boy. I don't catch shit a bottle like I was telling people up to day, I'm good like morm Jane. I told you I ain't never gotta leave out my house if I don't want to, and I get paid, I

pimped the mail man. Now, I set up my life. I did everything that I could do and wanted to do. You understand, so now I can live comfortable. You understand. I'm fifty six years old and I'm leaving it comfortably. I'm good. You understand. You know people who've been to my house, people who've been around me. Yo. I got old schools, I got old cars, I got old trucks. I can get a new car, new truck, get anything I want to in life. I set myself up for that,

and I tell my kids everything. When you turn the eighteen, what you're doing the next five years, it's gonna determine how you live the rest of your life. They went to college, they go to they finished college, they're doing their thing. One is still in college doing anything. Listen, I'm happy. I'm not upset and puff. I'm not upset and none of this. It was an experience. But if I could talk about it, I could be about it, and I could teach and tell people about it. I'm

gonna do it. If they hate me for it, man, listen, here they hated Jesus Christ. What they do They wear him around his neck right now and call them God. You understand, I have no problem with that. Okay, let me let me, let me let me ask you this. Going in law enforcement and then doing any time my mother getting and shooting or drive by, whatever the case might be. I think those cats did the right thing being in that car. You know, when you hear gunshots,

you're gonna sucking duck. You ain't gonna really see what's going on in the first the first three seconds right there. No, if you trained, if you were trained, you don't duck for nothing. I don't know. I know, not a police officer I'm talking about. I'm talking about guys, just just an average street cat. Now. Particulate for those street cats, because I know some serious street cats and it seems like they got like like they got they got. I would want to go to wall with them because I've seen.

Let me just say this, I know street cats, if they in situations like that, they don't duck. They don't what you call Lucy's said. You know he saw somebody uh dressed like the Nation of Islam. You understand that's a little c said. He said, somebody dressed like the National Islam and then they they they they they started shooting. Now they made a duck after the shooting when the shooting start. But he said that, and then when I said,

somebody walked up to me and puffs car. He had blue fool, white shirt, blue boo boats at a peanut looking head, you understand. And they said, mean, how do you know that? I said, he walked up to the calling me a coup with me and puff car. So now we put that guy to see. So now whether he saw all of it or not, he saw the guy in that car, he saw that guy in that car. I saw that guy come up to me and pump the l a p. He shows me a picture, a picture. Let me ask you this, the guy that walked up

to you, can you actually place him? And everybody want to notice, can you actually place that guy as being the shooter? Can you actually say he's the one that did it? I mean, he out started talking to you. Can you place him in the car and being a shooter At the same time, rug to be totally honest, and I'm always gonna be this way. I've known the guy in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boat top was in that car, a little seeds and Paul. When they said nothing, I could play some walking up to

me five minutes five to be getting killed. I can't place him in the car. He walked in that direction. I've always said that, right, I can only place the guy right there with me and pup and walking in that direction. I wouldn't have never known he was in the car. If right, not two months later, not a two days while we was at the hospital, they said, a guy said, a guy in a uh dressed like the Nation of Islam shot b. I said, because I seen the guy walk in that direction. He had a

blue shuit on, white shirt, blue balltop. You know there, you know, looking at I can't place him. I can only put him in the going in the direction, you know what I'm saying. Five minutes later, five minutes later. But if they would have said he it was a guy with a blue suit, a Nation of Islam's guy and I and I said the color, and they said yeah, then I would have never known the The code thing about it is is you guys just doing the same thing that we're doing over here. About five we and

we all blame and who should have did what? And why they didn't do what And that's the same thing you're going through. That's the that's the same thing everybody is going through. And I think everybody has to blame. You know, if if the homies would have took care of the situation with Tupuck opposed to Tupac doing it, then it would have it would have directed the attention in a in a you know, a different way. This

is what I believe. But and then if if like you said, if only I could take that day back and do it different, Dan Bicky probably would have still been here. I would have never got to the car, I would have never gotten the call puff. But see, the thing about it is is that you know, um, if I hadn't known that, my friends them, what they did was they was at Steve Stoutsingam house and they've seen something that that wasn't right up there, and it

looked like a set up. And because they from the street and their gangsters that they was coming to set tell us, YO, don't go up to that party because it's a set up up there. It wasn't a party in the hills. Now, when I talked to some guys out there and I talked to some people on the other on other they told me, yo, they was waiting for y'all to come in the hills. At first. Some people was waiting for us to come up the hill because they knew Steve Stop was giving a party up

there and Puffna was invited. So huh, I said, Puffy knew about all this. He was told that he's just set up, yo, Bro. He was told not to go to the party. I told him not to go to the party before we left Steve Stop, I mean Andrerell's house. I told him, still hum and he still went. He still went. This is what people don't understand. And then you gotta look at me. I'm the number every guy who was coming from Cali when they came in New York,

Matt ten exhibits, uh Nate dog who is bodyguarding them. Me. You understand, I'm not dude. So now I look bad because not big gas kilt on my watch. Yeah, that's a lot of stuff for me. You understand what I'm saying, because this dude ain't listen to what I told him. Y'o listen to me. I believe punk Girl was putting that stuff to the I believe kids because kill was right there. I said, we can't go to that party, man,

so people gonna come and kill us. Man. People have told me that a dude that was in the federal jail out there, he's out now, he's up now he caught gave me a phone call. He said, big James. I said, yeah, what's up? Man? He said, Yo, best stuff? I said, all day everything. He said, they can come to get y'all. Man. I get a call from my man Chas Whim. He said, Yo, it's gonna be some street niggers coming at y'all to night. He went to

that sting Stock party on the hill. He left up because I told him he was at the museum, man, and it looks shady. So he was coming to the museum's crew and and two of them is still alive. Was on the corner when dad got stopped. Wow, they saw it go down. They you know, they still us chase the guy. They followed us to the hospital. The puss got ready to lead a hospital. He had his crew and he tends to follow us and plus them stop the car on the highway and go tell Chad, yo,

we don't heed go all that damn. So, So how did guys how they feel about Puppy now, and I mean Puppy still living in doing this thing, and they they don't, they don't, they don't know. God bless the dad Chas is gone and they don't turning about Paul And I was one of his people. He wasn't gonna see nothing happen to me, right, I was gonna see nothing happen, and nobody from if he couldn't because he

was that New York type of dude. He was the one with Big DEEDM and Eric Beta who set up that meeting with Shill to get that East Coast West Coast thing squads and Puff wun't even still a representative. So you think you wanted that, You think you think it was more beneficial to to send Biggie out there like that, because I mean, that's a mission that you shouldn't have went on for number one, after Tupac was killed,

and then you're gonna go to the Lions. Then right after that, you knew it was gonna be repercussion after Park was killed, you know what I'm saying. He said, I didn't know any and everybody knew that that was gonna be a problem. Why here Why is this executive telling get no e t you know and everything it was no East coast, west coast wall that he didn't know about nothing when it fot dude that he paid good me tell him and then wolf his head and

his security. He's had his bad boy tell him I'm not going and let you and he told and what told his mother, MI ain't going out there, don't want to go right, Like I was saying, man, you know everybody, everybody feeling a vault on some of the ship. But the fault ain't the blame ain't going to the right people. Right. They have the avenue and they get to look at this James, My story and your story and what you did for death Row and what I did with bad

Boy is worth millions and millions of dollars. You underderstand these cats get other cats get get get avenues and get millions of dollars to tell our story. And they weren't even there and they don't know our story. They don't. They don't. Hollywood, the movie business, don't give us that avenue like they give it to those other cats. You understand what I'm saying. Let me say this, I'm not gonna I can't even blame them because they take advantage

of the situation us. They don't take advantage, James. They are given the situation, they were given it. But that's that's us, that's us doing these interviews. It's not us who is it. That's not us? Give it that that that we that we might do it giving them the interviews and stuff like that. You know what I'm saying, and trying to get compensated for the interviews. But that's not us. They don't. They don't. They don't give us the money. They don't give us the platform and the

avenue to do that like they do them. So if we don't talk and say nothing, if we take ourselves by the equation, bro, then they have nothing, they have nothing, then they're gonna be If we do that, then they're ready and willing to pay us what we want to be paid to do it. So just that's their make up, their make up, their makeup, ship, Jane. They'll make ship and put it on a grand scale. Now everybody thinks the truth because we don't have a voice to speak

on it. We don't have what they do. They don't give us the voice to speak on it. They make up ship and they make it be what they wanted to be. Well, just like we create these platforms, we can create a platform where brothers can push it together. Us can push it together and then do a documentary such as VT or anybody else, you know what I'm saying. So we can do it ourselves, just like anster chronicles, just like what Norman is doing, just like what you

was doing. We can put that ship out there ourselves and and and make the money. If Pufflican started business, if Shield and I can started business, I think I mean they opened the doors for us to do pretty much whatever we want to do it. Yo. Anybody brother that was trying to do some kind of distribution out there, you know what, they know where they are right now, where in jail, in jail, bro. They don't want us to have distribution to put our own stuff out there.

The people that can do it, and they're not gonna do it. You got the Tyler Perry's gotta got a multimillion dollars there a studio. He will not for the avenue for things for street black uh black documentaries, things that happened in the streets that's coming up. He he won't do that now those those those those those white boys overseas might do it because they have no allegiance to America like that. Huh, So we we do have leeways, we do have options. Would you might have some options.

We might have some options. But listen. The thing about it is is that brother, um, they had made this man so poisonous that they don't give us the avenue to see what we want to speak to state what we want to say when we go. Listen to me, I did MTV and sit down there for five hours. You got twenty seconds or thirty seconds or something. We don't have about that v H one the same thing. So now people saying that I never told this story.

Now I've been telling this story and since since, you understand, but saying the same ship. But what happened that they used a portion that they need that they want you understand. Well, that's that's where the controversy come in. Like like saying that you said you gave three different stories, you picked out different people. That's the controversy. That's the what they need. But let's listen to me, brother, I see what what Grant Katie wasn't telling y'all. I had a lawyer with

me right. You had a lawyer with me. This lawyer was the governor's personal one of the governor's personal lawyers because she was married to his brother. That's how powerful she was. She was doing me a solid because of my girl at the time. Yea, she went with me and she took notes. She could tell you. I said, these guys look something like him, but that's not him. And then when they showed me the picture of the guy in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boats, I said,

this is the guy right here. They promised that they were coming back in about two weeks with a better photo, or they was gonna send for me to come out there and do a lineup. They never did, never heard from him since you're me, never heard from him from that point on. That's a facade, and that's a lot if they were taking me as they weren't. While you didn't hear the video tape. Anytime you pick out somebody in the lot lineup and you are law enforcement, you

know what they make you do. What's that initially? So what you're saying that, if that wouldn't be a natural fact, they should have showed that that piece of paper, that document showing that you are an issue, the wrong person? Are you? You're saying who that was? And you put your an issue, that's what you're saying. They didn't do that, Okay, anybody you put out somebody law enforcement and if you've

been locked up, you've been stuff like that. They said, you know this is a person right here, and you put your insues right there right because they have to prove that you pick that person out. You know, it's just a lot of ship and I think you know

what it is, brother, this is what it is. You can't tell me what happened to me that day from somebody that you got stuff from ten years ago that wasn't doing the right thing in the first place, right right, right right, those officers doing what they were supposed to do in the first place. Then next stuff would have been at tight. You're gonna come eight years later and I'm speaking about great Kati and say and listen to me, whether I'm wrong or right or in different you know

why Lucy's wasn't in that murder rap? What you know why I wasn't in that murder rap? No, it was totally a gift of what they was trying to say. If you was getting down to the if you if you you're gonna get all the weeks, roll right or in different? Right, roll right in different? You know what I mean? You're important guy. After I think a lot of people. You know, the police can only go by what what what people were saying. Police can only rather

report from what you say. And I think getting all of this different information, YadA, YadA, you know they put it together the way they see it. Um no, wait a minute, Wait a minute. I'm not giving I'm not I'm not I'm not taking up. No, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm shaking my head. Whereas that sometimes you have people that articulate things in a way that helped their case and help them. Because how can I say that with somebody's ship starts shooting, you dumped your head

and you and you did, I can't say that. So let's look at you. Huh. Let's look at it. Let's let's look at it from from on the west coast side. Let's look at it from let's let's take your point of view. I've seen this boat tipe. Okay, you've seen this guy. But people on the West coast know that

it wasn't that guy. Would you be quick to say they lying, or would you be quick to say, okay, that's a possibility if all if all the people on the West Coast saying that this was a different individual, this person they know for a fact that it would you be would you like kind of like shay, okay,

maybe I'm wrong, or why is all of them saying that? James, what I'm saying to you is that if the shooter, if the eyewitness of the shooter say, a guy in a blue suit, white shirt, blue bow tie, shot my brother, shot my man, shot my mentor shot the guy who taught me how to wrap you understand, And I see this guy walk down the street in that direction, and

five minutes later that person is shot. I'm not going about what nobody else saying, but that person who said this is the individual who shot him, because he is the eyewitness, no matter who or what somebody's saying or what nobody articulately later, you know, if you get a guy, if you get that person in that blue shoot in that white shirt and that blue boat top in court and you gotta you gotta jury of twelve and Lucy's get on that stat stand and say that's the guy

right there in the blue suit, white shirt, blue boat time that shot my friend that night. Who the jewelry gonna believe. They're gonna believe the person that saved, that honestly saved and can point you out and say that's him. They're gonna believe. They're gonna believe that. I'll witness. Yeah, they're gonna they inclined to believe witness. Now if I put him in going in that direction, they're gonna believe he was on that street because they got the picture

and he me him and Puff. You know, Puff is in this car. I'm outside the car in the driveway, and I stopped him. The FBI at the FBI asked me and the l A p D. Did you have your gun on me? Yes, I pulled my gun. He looked at my gun. I put me, put my arm down, looked him in this. He looked at me and with the other direction. You understand, he said, Joe, this MF is ready. He that's the he got his gun out.

If I pulled my weapon. I gotta make sure because if he pulled his weapon, already got my mind's out. I'm double tapping coming up. I'm studying double tapping coming up like I'm trained it. Two. You understand I'm not pulling no punchers with because I want to go home the minds. So now if he he goes and sees me, don't say nothing, walk in the direction. And five minutes

later somebody out witnessed him as shooting. I don't care if Jesus Christ is in the courtroom and defended him, the jury gonna say, well, it was an outwitness that placed him there. It was eye witness that put him in the car. It was an eye witness that said he shot. So they see him in a car, they see him nothing to know that it was somebody dressed

like them, somebody from the Nation of Islam. But now the the l aple wanna make up something totally different, and then they want to do it because you gotta realize that that was some professional ship. Brother, the way they set that up, that was some professional ship. That wasn't no street ship. They knew where to get away because say I found out this. I found that the death Road was two blocks away from that that place,

about two or three blocks away from that place. Right now, when we chase after the guy guy, all of a sudden we get to tweet when we turned that corner, we don't see ship. We don't see him the lights of nobody. Somebody told me that death roll office about two blocks away from that. I'm not saying they went

up in there. I'm not saying they did that and they used that, but it was somebody who knew they already set up for shooting on the other side of the facility, had the police, had the fire people, had the emergency all on the other side of the facility, and when we came out the backside, so all that stuff y'all see people on the streets and all that doctorate stuff that wasn't on the side the big got killed on. They tried to doctor that and try to put that out there like it was, but it wasn't.

I knew who was on that side of the street. So Bro, they can say whatever they want to say. I'm going by what was said that night. I'm going by what I saw that night, and I'm going by what I believe that happened. Well, I'm I'm understake this things happened and it don't have to Well it might have looked like a professional thing to you, but you know,

Ship is just is well planned. Uh, people are organized, so you know, for for for that guy to bring him out of here, and and knowing the situation and what was going on, he knew it was a rich bottom line. He knew you know what it was. It wasn't just a risk to me and I and I believe this man. Listen to me, Big was leaving. Bad boy being had his own label. He's making his own label.

He had enough groups on that label that was gonna be hot camraon Prolie Baltimore, Little Kim Little sees you understand, the commission and himself. Something just blanked out on here in the grand scheme of things. Man, do you think, man, that this could have been some organized man by somebody else man, just to further perpetuate the few that y'all was aving. Yeah, let me just take your something, man um.

When we came back. When we came back outter chasing the guy, the first thing I did, I ran down to the parking lot. You understand, because people talk, so, you know, talking, And when I heard DJ Quick say, Yo, I think they got one of them back he on the cell phone. I think they got one of them bad boy niggas. They said they was gonna get him. So now whoever he was around, whoever he was around, wherever we heard that, I mean, somebody was setting up

to do something. So in the grand scheme of things, it was planning, all right, and and and it it should have been planned. And this is me saying, because here you really a ward and then now Tupac is dead, and then then it gotta be some type of repercussion because it is own. It should have been repercussions way before this. I know, we got we got, we got the mom in the South Side fighting each other over bad Boy and death Row. So let's say it's planned.

Let's say this. We're blaming everything and everybody else. Two people and Cahusa, all this other ship. Why we don't blame ourself for for putting ourselves in positions to to do ship like this to each other. Here we are killing for and doing this for for other people, you know what I'm saying, when it didn't even have to go there. So let's blame ourselves for organized our own situations. This is this is our fault. All this ship is our fault. And there's a lot of people there because yeah,

we were young, dumb and full of come back. Then we were young, dumb and full of comeback. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm trying to check. So let's not blame all the people it was. It was. It was our fault. We made a lot of mistakes back in the days. Uh, we was with the beef. We was with the beef like montherfucker because it was something to do at the time. And and and people were eaten off of this beef. Motherfucker's was getting paid for

the war. You know what I'm saying, Let's stay being compensation, not getting what they wanted, but was getting paid for this ship. So it ain't it ain't that white dude over there or that white dude around the corner. We was at war. We this ship could have stopped a long time ago. Think I'm gonna I'm gonna give you five grand cut it that cut it off. I'm gonna give you fifty thousand, y'all stop this ship. We we

we can't. They were trying to do that. They was trying to do that brother brother before before popat up, hit him out, hit him up. They was trying to do that. Even though the circumstances because listen, let me just tell you something. If Wolf was responsible for Jake getting killed like people try to portray that in that image, because he wasn't, because Wolf was right next to Should when Jake got killed. You understand. So now if what

should one have never said I could squash you? Should would have never said I could squash the beat when when Eric b and them decided you we got we can't make let's watch the death row thing. Should would have said that somebody should have cap would have said, nah, man, the bad boy niggas killed my man. You understand, we

can't squash it to one of them guys stopped. That wasn't the conversation back then, Puff All, Puff, All Puff I had to do was send a representative, whether it could have been Zip or anybody from this camp, a Wolf of anybody to that meeting. They all went to the mirage. They was all partying together. You understand, that's all you have to do. We'll send somebody or say somebody, I'm talking for bad boy and everything like, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna squash. His head puffed

aside and he said, that's them niggas. I ain't fucking with him, y'all making me look bad by even fucking with him, Nicks, that's what he said, zip y'all making me look bad. Do you understand that he didn't want to boss enough. That's the truth behind it. Brother. He could have said, Yo, okay, we was in. We was in We was in l A and y'all and they was in New York. They was in New York. He could have said, yo, listen to him. Man, all right, Wolf coming over there? All right, Wolf there is is

coming over y'all. Y'all figured out or everything like that, And I'm whatever they say, I'm good with. If Shook was the street nigga or real street guy, and he knew Wolf had killed him, and wolfs that me and Shik was cool, man, I should have never stopped talking to him. Wolf said that out of his own mouth. I stopped working with him because of fuck. So, now, if Wolf was the real shooter and what killed Jake, Shugar said, no, nigga, if he was real, I want

that nigga head. He killed my man. Oh, he killed our people. I want his head. That wasn't the conversation. And she never told nobody that Wolf killed Jack that's not true because he was right next now, now, down, down, hold on, let me let me defend ship on that one. Uh. When he came back, it was said, who did it? I ain't gonna ain't gonna go into the logistics of of of how it was put down how I was saying. But it did come back that that guy was the guy.

Wait a minute, bud, you can't tell me what she came and said at home. I don't know what he said. Let me tell you something. Let me, let me, let me, let let me. Let me tell you some funny ship. Let me tell you some funny ship. We was all at Envies. We was all at Envies. Should walk through the door. My kid's mother was right in the middle of the door. I'm in the corner peeping game in the back. M shove walks in Envies with the cigar

in his mouth and everything like that. My my my kids mother stopped and she said, oh, shouldn't I okay? He said, yeah, baby, how are you doing? And grabbed him and hugged him. Right. Wolfman was in the club that night too. They was at the bart together, brother. So I can't see that man having a drink with that dude after he killed this man. Let me tell you something. I had much love for meat and carried them from being math. Much love for him. Every time

I see him that come to party. Everything I said called Blanche. You understand I'm saying Southwest here. Tell you called Blanche when him and Wolf had that problem in Atlanta and Wolf didn't make it. We was in Kent. Cool. He came up to me, Yo, I got number. Yeah, we got holes down there. Anything you want to drink, anything we want to eat, Big man, come to the room. Chad had the junior presidential sweet Task is right there

with me. I told against the with gainst the dudes around them, I said, my man, let me just say this. I don't know what happened between you and Wolf, but we always family, and he not here today based on whatever happened between y'all two. No disrespect, bro, I can't drink with you. He said, I respect, and he went and I went my way. I had not, but we was all family. You unders I can't see Shoots standing at the ball with this nigger with the few dudes he had with him, and said he knew he killed

Jake and he didn't do not a signal. That's like a while right now. I didn't she we didn't know what he did when he came to New York. And and that's why I can't I can't speak on that. I can't elaborate on what he did when he came to New York. I know what men home? How did everybody get that guy named a no of Woldau? Because you know what, let me just tell you something, because

of this is what it is. They put it on Bad Boys, right, But the only one who was doing the only one that could have done something like that or would have done something like that for Bad Boy was probably Wolf Risk or whoever they put down to do it. Do you understand so that whether okay, let's say that, it's whether it was Wolf or whoever it was somebody from Bad Boy camp. Japon know when he asked Cat that was a real motherfucker. I got mad at shoot because with lost, I mean, Jake lost his life,

you know what I'm saying. So I don't think she could have made that call and said I'm doing the interview serving with that. I'm not that that should couldn't come back and say, oh, that beefing we were squashing that after Jake. It's it's full blown now because I just yeah, how could not not not look what you're just saying now, come on, put it into content. How could should make that decision on the death row East

Coast beat? If Wolf had to kill Jake and they was willing Eric beat noticed to be true, Big DNA notice to be true. You understand, how can he can make that call? If Whoof was really the one who did to kill? He can only he can only speak on who did it? Which how how could you make that call? It sussed to be he can't, That's what I'm saying. You can't make that call. My point example, because he knowing himself, Whoof was right next to him when Jack got killed? And you know that's it's a

whole lot. And let me tell you. Let me just tell you. And Wolf told me that is something man, He said, men, I kill that dude? Who said men, I don't kill that dude. Whether he did it or not, it was somebody from Bad Boy, we know that. So everybody is is guilty by association, you know what I'm saying, Like like all the ship that we do, somebody I

funk with you. Something happened you're going to jail because I mean, I'm it's guilty because I was there accessory after the fact that whatever the case might be, your law enforcement to tell me if I'm wrong. No, you're right. It's called rick It's called Rico law. Yeah, you know, Accessory had to the fact get you damn near the same thing. Oh most well, you there, it's a slam

on the wrist. But you're gonna go to jail for it, just like just like somebody saying somebody killing somebody, the person sent them to kill him gets more time to the person who paid to kill him. That's right, So on on on. On another note, yeah, you and Reggie, You and Reggie. You know, I think you and Reggie should have had that personal phone called y'all y'all should well when he come home, have that personal uh conversation to to fix some of the things that it was.

It was your brother I spoke to. It was a misunderstanding brother. I was talking about Greg Katy. I was talking about Reggie giving Grant Kati on that information. And I had that conversation I had to Reggie. I had that conversation with Reggie. You understand, you know what I'm talking about is what I'm talking about is And I heard you said on the on the on the interview Reggie and his dad speaking on Reggie and Reggie right singing right, y'r litten, listen to me. Check it out, brother,

check it out. If you look over the indictment in the paperwork, they charged Reggie right singing, just like they charged Reggie right right. You understand. So now somebody had to come forward, and the Fast want somebody to come forward and take that. You understand now, if Regny said my father didn't have nothing to do with it, that I met bank account may have been in his name, but I was using that because I had access to it,

the launching money through it. If I was, if I was using this stuff to do this and do that, then the Fast look at that and say, okay, give us something. All investigations. Let me just tell you something. Whether you if you want, you charge to something. Man, the fans want something, and they want more than what they already know. If I already know that, you can't give me that, give me something that I don't know. That's new enforcement works. Here we go again. Here we

go again, James. The speculation as a motherfucker. And and Reggie did get his dad on. I just tell you how we work. I know. Well, listen to me, Reggie. Right, Reggie did tell them that his dad had nothing to do with it, got him up the hook, which you should have. Pops ain't getting down like that. So let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. You're being the law enforcement, that you being investigator? Why do you believe him? Why do I believe Regie? Right? I

believe Reggie because you you got you missed on the point. Right, I'm an investigator. Right, I got you and your you and your your your your brother. I got you and your brother. You said my brother ain't had nothing to do with that, Well, I got both of you. Are you using this account? How not know that's a hundred some thousand dollars extra and his account? How do you not noticed that in the third like that? I don't

believe it. Why should I believe you as an investigator because you tell me that your brother had nothing to do with it? You might just be mad enough to take all the time and do something, or your brother might say, you're my brother, James don't have nothing to do with this. Do you understand. So now as an investigator, what I gotta do is I wanna I want to make my case either bigger or better or clad type.

I'm gonna tell you, Okay, brother, say your father don't have your brother don't have nothing to do with it. What can't you get me to prove that your brother will have nothing to do with it or give me something? That's if any investigator who does investigations, that's just wait a minute, investing the investigator has nothing Beny to do with it. He's out there to investigate. Now, I've been to jail multiple times, and I know if if, if, if I'm saying my brother ain't got nothing to do

with it, that week is your case. Because I'm gonna can't understand if I have to to say my brother ain't got nothing to do with it nine times out of tend the law. Don't want to go there and say he knew, because you gotta prove to the jury that he had well, he knew exactly what was going on when that money was placed. So brother, brother, wait

a minute, let mean Benish Jane. The prosecutor don't want to take that chance because trying to make him look wait a minute, trying to make Dad, but like he knew, and you can't prove Dad actually knew. Reggie had access to the account, which I'm Reggie said this before. That's why I'm speaking on it. So that's how his pops got off. You don't have to give no more or no less because he because he did that. And if he did more than that, why is he in jail?

You know what I'm saying. Why is he in jail. You don't have You don't have nobody that was on this case speaking speaking bad on Reggie. Reggie still communicate with these cats. So Reggie, I think, honestly he doing time. I think because he was a police officer, he got less time. And I've said it on Gang Wait a minute,

I've said it on Games the Chronicles multiple times. I think if you're in law enforcements and you break the law like I break it, I think you should be uh sentence like like you were saying, just me, no no, no, no no. They should sence this. They should sensorce him, not him per se. Anybody in law enforced to get caught during the crime, we should sensence more time than they would than you because they're supposed to know better. You understand I'm saying, Yo, this dude said I pushed

him in the face. I pushed in there and put my gun to his head. They was trying to give me ten and a half years, tending to a half years. I told I know, I didn't do it. I went to try. I won it. You understand. June six, two thousand eleven, I won the case. You understand what I'm saying. What I'm saying to you is is that they was trying to give me ten and a half years on an MF that was lying. It cost me over ninety two tho dollars altogether and court fees and everything, court fees,

lawyers and all that stuff. What I'm trying to tell you, brother, is this is that based on just because you say somebody had nothing to do with it, they don't believe you. They're looking at the fact or a sun amount of time that this amount of money was in your account. You're gonna tell me that you don't look at this account, You don't know where this money coming from. You ain't

ask no questions about those money. Those are things that people who do legitimate investigations ask questions and do that. I don't care about what they do. I'm glad he only got a little time. I don't want to see nobody locked up in jail. But when they talk about investigations and federal investigations, I've been through it and I've done them. You understand. I've been through federal I got I got news articles, I got papers in everything where

I've been investigated, I've been through. Cause they want one bad cop. They would rather have one bad cop than take crooks in the streets, you understand. And because of association, he was trying to get me for a long time, you understand. So what I'm trying to tell you, as brother, I understand that, and what I'm trying to say to you is is that I have nothing against Reggie. I don't have nothing. I don't care about that situation. You know what I'm saying. If we talk as men, we

talk as men, we ain't never gotta be friends. You understand. Well, that's what I'm saying about y'all. When y'all worked out y'all differences, you would think that that that situation would have been over. But when Reggie went to jail, you had did that? Nah? No, Bro, what what, what you didn't what you didn't see, what you didn't see, and what you don't understand. Reggie was allowing people and he

was going at me still about certain things. And then he had laughed and play it off like he didn't know better, like he didn't know different. And I had already discussed that and had conversations with him about certain situations. I had always had conversations with him about, um, what you called pulling the gun on Sugar, Um see gun you understand? And then he said that he I said, he pulled the gun on see Gunnar and say, don't

really roll, don't raise it. He said it was Keithie d And I don't know what Gene Deal talking about. I don't care what Jeane Deal is saying. I know who I pulled the gunna. Then he gonna gets out of Federal penitentiary and gets on Doggie Diamond said, Yo, I was don't pull the gun on Shugar. I was do wanta dent this and dent that and stuff like that, when I had already told Reggie it was said. Then Reggie went back and then try to downplay what I was saying to him and not that, and it was

other other companies. I'm not trying to say I went at him because of that, but I was actually trying to express that Greg Kaden got his information from Reggie. He had to to me. That's what I believe, that's my personal belief, because he was the producer on my murder. Rap producers what they do. They gain information, They give people stuff, They make stuff happen for the people who are given a thing. And I just I told you, and I expressed that to you. Are you still lying? Yeah,

I'm listening to you. Yeah, I expressed that to you. In Grant Katie book, he said that Reggie Wright told him that shouldn't I bought Bungee unempowered, just like the one that was seen on the scene with Big got killed you in Pucci Pucci, Pucci. Sorry about that, Pucci. So now, if Sugar is my man, like I said to you, there's no way I'm telling the police he bought anybody, no car that looked like somebody who was wanted, wanted for a murder. That's the last thing telling anybody.

And that's in the book. That's in the book. Brother. I got that actually got the book, um, and I was reading it I ain't got you that part yet. Why would he why would he throw his man him schilking you, oh, y'all grew up together. Why would he throw his man under the buff like that? I don't know. I ain't read it. I ain't ready, but I'm not I'm not gonna downplayed either. Uh. I'm gonna read the book. And if that's in the book, I'm that's something I'm

gonna ask Reggie. You know what I'm saying. But I don't think every everybody knows how Reggie is. Everybody knows how Reggie. He likes the bullshit, He he with it um anybody that he feels that attacks him, he's gonna Atteck back with vengeance. He's gonna come with vengeance and and and and he's gonna try to prove his point. Everybody know that's Reggie. I've been doing Reggie from from from way back, and like I told, respect him. I respect your loarty to him, and I respect what you're

saying and everything like that. But you know, you know, guys, I know from way in the back and the back I got the same loargety to him and everything like that. Did I did? I know? I'll die for did I go to war with the whole nine yards? But what I'm saying to you is that it justin seemed feasible for him to throw his man under the bus like that. And and if Greg can't he lie on him by saying that he just should sure have suited him for putting that in the book and saying that, well, I

don't think I don't think Greg would lie. I don't think he would put it out there knowing that that him and Reggie is also cool. So if it's in the book, then one would have to assume that Reggie said it. Um you know, at the end of the day, I truly believe that, you know, our our fight after the beefs is. I don't think it's necessary. I think, man, some abody need to come to a medium and say, okay, man, this ship has been over twenty years. We don't need

to keep coming after each other. I'm not coming after nobody from death Row. That's not my ploy, that's not my plan, you understand, you know, Like, um, if if, if, if I have to apologize for Reggie for putting that out there, for saying that, I apologize. I don't have no problem that I don't have to deal with him. I don't have to speak with him. I don't have to do nothing. I apologize as a man the way

I put it out there. My my object was to get at how Greg Katie got his information and how Greg Katy trying to make like he is super detective. But then he left a whole lot of witnesses out that didn't go to what he wanted to say. You understand, those three girls that was walking on the side of the car, you understand on the street, he didn't even question them. He he didn't. He didn't even and bring

them to the table or stuff like that. You know what I'm saying for my whole thing about it is is that it's a lot of things that he left out that because it didn't pertain to what the thing that he wanted to draw. And that's kin I don't care ask your question. Can ask you a questions. If you've been in law law enforcement, if a witness don't

seem credible, would you use them first? Of I would have to, I would have to interview I would have to interview him first and totality to see where he's not credible wet right, then would you still use him if you knowing that this might hurt my case, would you I was trying to think that it might hurt, like like, why would it hurt your case? Let's say hurt. Tak it hurt. Come on, man, it's just i'm and

I'm speaking law enforcement terms, telling the harminology. If if it happens every day, if this witness don't seem credible, I'm not gonna use them. If this witness is known not to be truthful in a certain degree, I'm not gonna use them. Am I right or wrong? I'm on and ife, I'm gonna calling your accus over. Okay, all right, So that's what you're use. You're using the word that you're using the word in which you gotta say. Well,

I can't tell you what to say. But if the witness is not if the witness is paying the atmosphere that's not feasible to your case, you understand, or it's going against what you say. Like if the witness say, oh, he was there at eleven thirty and I've seen him jump in the cab, but then somebody said, yo, he was there at eleven forty five or twelve o'clock and

he did that at twelve eleven. But the one witness said, yo, no, he jumped in the cabinet eleven thirty five, eleven forty or eleven thirty and other women say, now he was leven to twelve o'clock. You're not yours down, jumped in the cab. It all boards down to. But what what what you do is is that you might not bring the thing. But then what if the defense have that witness there? What if did he not there for you?

But the defense had that witness that, and the defense can say, yo, listen here, I took a picture of him getting in the cab at this time. You understand boom, because he was a stock. That's why I took a picture. So my whole thing about it is it is based on what suits your case. As you said, So if I'm telling you that it was a guy walked up to me and puff and he had a boat Town blue suit, white shirt, you understand the peanut looking head. And then a witness saying I've seen him pull a

gun out of the window and shoot my friend. And let's not pertaining to you what the case and what director you want. You're not gonna use those witnesses in your case. Okay, once again the way you want to go. Once again, it goes to a credibility because if if if they looked at that and took what you said and what uh I keep saying his name, Mace, Lucy little cis what he said, somebody should have been arrested.

So at the end of the day, once again, it boils down the credibility, right, they felt that they didn't want to say he said this, and then he said this. So I'm asking the question. I mean, I I don't know. I ain't in the law. So Louke what I'm just saying, it's just it just gave up. Lucie's gave Lucie's gave an eyewitness account on that particular week on what he saw. Now I gave an eyewitness account or what I saw, you understand, not ten years later, not some stuff that

was formulated for people to say their own ass from prosecution. Now, you take what was said that night that week, because that's the strongest part of your case, not something that was formulated ten years later. You take what was saying that night that week, you understand from people who was actually there, So why you think they never rested nobody

because it probably would have. It probably would have went to the point whereas that L a p D may have been responsible or held responsible because they had rolled cops working in situations that could have caused the depth of Biggie Small and they would have been sued for millions and millions of dollars. And it wouldn't have matter whether he knew he was coming into the lines then knewing that it was a game. Ward Tupac just got killed.

Everybody knows. Okay, Tupac gone that that can't just go by, that's not gonna fly. No, she's coming, and then coming out of here, uh, and then that that going back to callegy ship was out and then now here go people like, man, I dare these dudes to come down in and exactly know what I'm saying, Say, did you see me? On multiple occasions say there was more than

one different people that wanted us? Then yeah, yeah, on multiple occasions, on multiple case we had a beat for somebody from the Nation of Islam is soult trained and I don't know today why I was that, but I know it was strong enough for Mo stop for the step in the dude chest you understand. Yeah, we had

a beef. That's got because uh Snoop, guys, no, that got shot up right when the NGO got shot up here and random so was the due when they said Biggie get went into the radio station and told everybody that it is. That's true. That's true. Brother, he said, I don't see how y'all gonna let them do that in Brooklyn. Man, you know the stuff he said, he shouldn't have said it, right, that's true. No, so right in the venture as if so, now you got snooped

them people. That's what Snoop trying to say. Yo, we always people stuff like that. And then you hear the stuff gonna he was going and big, he was going in big on the radio. There's a lot of songs popping up now that he was going in big that they was releasing death fro so now. But he's saying like it was, that's you're gonna play that role. You're gonna play that role. But behind the scenes he was going at him, you know, talking about him bad. You understand.

So now out you got that, then you got the fact that they painted the picture that Wolf killed Jake, and they painted the picture that Wolf or somebody from Bad Boy killed Jake in Atlanta. Those are three losses people from the West Coast has taken. Do you understand what I'm saying? Oh yeah, and dudes from out there. My brother was out there at Stacktown. They don't play that. Just like anywhere else. They'll fight that. They'll kill for colors.

You think they ain't gonna kill when their people come up there, or they ain't gonna try to hit somebody or do something. They have done it for less? Is that facts of what? Oh yeah, that's that's what hunted, all right. So now we know that I'm stupid for even going out there, because you gotta understand, this is what they told to get us out there. We're gonna do that. We're gonna be at the hotel, we're gonna do the studio, and we're gonna do radio. The studio

and radio, and that's it. Even that's still dangerous. That's still dangerous. Yeah, because everybody knew y'all was coming. Everybody knew y'all was there to the alreadio and thing. I SI, okay, we got our chances, And then I thought public was gonna have hired those militian men. That he had before. That's what I was told. He had six guys from the sixth four or six guys that was mercenaries. And boy,

they was on their ship. They knew what they were doing, right you say, I've trained with some people that was you know, from the d A, from the UH, from transit from UH, from the state police. And these guys was they on their things. They was on their stuff. So now I thought we was gonna have him. I called Kirk bro your Kirk, weint got the mercenary. Man. Now puff ain't on hire? No more security? What y'all gottas already? Next? We need more security? Brother? Do you

understand what I'm saying? But listen, James, we talked a lot about this stuff. Man. We're going back on this East coast, West coast runner, Yo. It's something that I want to say today, man, Yo. Put all that beside, all this behind us. Man. These young brothers are today. Man, they still think it can't happen to them. They still think that there's not uh Entita this out there to stop them. You understand, we see it today. Man. We trapped in our houses. You know, we go next to people.

You understand, we go and try to form some some some some kind of rally or whatever like that. We all gonna we all could end up day. They didn't put this poison in this air, and they put this poison out here and these streets and stuff like that to stop us, you know what I'm saying, from stopping them right right? You know, because you gotta realize those

people in China, they was put tisching it. They was going out there fighting the government, you understand, because they knew that that y G, they that five G, they knew all the stuff that was they was trying to do. So what they do They put out this epidemic. They put out this thing to stop them from gathering. They could kill you up from being next to somebody, you understand. And and and the golf of that, you know, even that we ain't even looking at it like that. You know,

are people thinking there's a goddamn joke. I'm here to tell everybody out there that it's not no joke. My uncle just lost his daughter behind this this this virus um and and his granddaughter and grandson was uh subject to the ship. So it's some real ship fuck hanging out. Man. You gotta take we gotta take care of ourselves and and and the people around us. You know, we want to hang out, but then we go home and we're

giving it to our kids. And I don't know if that was my little cousin case, but the kids got her daughter got an anagram, baby had it so thank god through the grates of guy that day home, but she lost their life. And uh, you know, it's a cold thing because we just buried my auntie on the February the fifth, and then she died a month after, just just a week and a half, two weeks ago. And we're not taking ship serious. We're not paying attention

to what's really going on. What's been marm I mean, Jane, sorry about that, mom, Jane, mar James, Jane. Let me just say something. Brother, listen to president get on television. We got four or five people around him, five six people around him. I thought it was six ft or thirteen ft. Why they not worried? Why they don't see that? Why why I can't touch them, Why can't be a part of them, Why neither one of them happen? Did you ever look at that that the president in them

gets on television and they shake hands. No social distance and everything like that. What he said to his cabinet. Some of the people in this cabinet did catch it. Yeah, but they're not around him. They don't get on stage, right, right,

do you understand? And then they they're making known or something like that because that dude go home to his family, or that dude may be out and about what I'm saying, when the point that I'm getting to you is that is that they putting some out here to stop this. And then they spoke about this, and I was gonna

talk about this on my show, don't you know? In nineteen nineties seven and the February issue of George magazine that's done by uh John F. Kennedy Jr. Right, he had an interview with Bill Gates, right, and Bill Gates talked about social distance. He talked about the internet taking over or running the government, that the government wouldn't need

so many different people. He talked about people not gathering in nineteen seven, and then he talked about in that magazine about that there will be viruses that will cause people not the social gathering. So you know, I look at this like this man and I'm not a conspiracy theorist or nothing. Like that. But this dude has done so much and and clear so many virus on the computers. He brought a virus real, he brought a virus life right right right, and look what it's doing to us. Man, Yo.

And he talked about in and this is what this magazine was wrote in nine seven. And if anybody don't believe me, go look at that magazine. It's too it's too. Part of the article, right, it's too talking about it on two different parts in the magazine. I think it's not eight then one on one, then another part says anything when he mentioned about two thousand and twenty, right, dog, people don't see they talk about these stimulists, checks and

everything like that. They're trying to this run the American government and American people, you understand, to bring it into like a dictatorship. Yeah, to bring it to a dictatorship. Brother, So what you say to the to the to the people in New York that that want to hang out, that's not paying attention my man, brother shooting dice and playing See. Look, I was going to the I was

going to the dentist. Brother, and I've seen brothers. It was six brothers on I'm gonna call him out on a hundred and twelve and Lenox Avenue while people was in the people were in the line of Fine Fair, waiting to go in the grocery store. They on the corner shooting dice with no gloves on their end, no notice, like it can't happen to them, right, I'm saying to the old saying, my grandmother used to tell me, boy, you don't believe thatat meets greasy, I'm saying the same thing.

Got here. I'm going to go on Facebook, man, and and I see these these kids at a one year old birthday party. It's like them and the police come maybe Fort d And I see this little girl, she waving her hands and talking shipped to the police. I look closer. It's my goddamn niece, my niece out of here. Oh so she knew when I was calling. She didn't don't answer that that call. And I'm like wow. And

then right after that my cousin passed. Now she'd get the picture that's not waiting to it and get close to home like that to really believe in what the fun is going on? This ship ain't no joke, So you know on that note, man, you know, I really appreciate you're taking the time out with us, man. And if you ever want to talk to me on your show or you know, we could compensate traveling up like today. Man, I'm I'm willing for that. UM. I believe we're all good. UM.

I'm glad you're getting better from your your situation. You gotta just gotta keep exercising and doing your things. Uh, to go back to something, yeah, not not not to cut you all off. I want to go back to something real quick early than James said. And I'm glad you said that, man, because this has been kind of my thoughts. They've been trust slowly trying to introduce socialism

to this country. If you see the pattern, this is an experiment almost like Okay, they send him brothers the twelve hundred dollar checks or whatever, right the right, the way they got the unemployment set up. Cats getting the extra six hundred dollars a week on top of the thing, just to stay at the cred. Right, you're trying. They're trying to break them, but they're trying to break the government.

One see, let me just say something. It's only three governments in this whole country that don't owe the World Bank, and that the Cuba, Zimbabwe and uh, what's just North Korea? North Korea? All right, they don't owe the World bank ship. Do you understand me? They don't owe the World Bank. Only three countries that don't owe the World Bank ship, Zimbabwe, North Korea and Cuba. You'll understand that. So they want everybody to come up to their own banking system. You understand.

Everybody already contribute to them. But once they what's it called, wipe everybody out. Now they get one currency, they had a currency that comes up under these phones. Everybody to get a phone, and all your money and all your bank account and all your money goes into that phone and to your bank things, to your bankings, to their banking system. You get it. You understand. They try They trying to. They what they're trying to do is they're trying to there's no reason how they They never gave

nobody nothing in the first place. Right, they're given it. Great, they're giving it to break the country down, man, to sending it to a recession, to sending it to a recession, brother to know, and to a depression and that stuff. Yo, when we get out of this we'll probably be dead, you know, us in our fifties and sixties by time we get out of this. You think so, you think it's gonna take that long, bro, But listen to me, man,

the depression took eight years. But to get out of the depression, and they just start seeing they just start seeing any possibility and promise into the sixties. Now this is this ship is going back to the drug dealing days. Watch to see when I'm telling you, this is gonna go back to the eighties. But it's gonna be hard for them to do it. Wow. Man, let's let let's hope we wrong, man. But but I don't doubt you. I don't I don't think. I don't think we're wrong. Brother.

They they've been setting up y'all. Listen to me, man. When they do they do different things to see can they get their way with stuff. That's how this, uh, the Luminati, that's how these systems work. When they got rid of when they knocked down those towers, those two towers and blamed it on those people stole all that goal from the World Track Center. You know, one of the biggest banks that held all the gold in the United States was in the world trade centers, right right,

I didn't know that. Okay, check it out. When did goal ever disappeared? When when the girl every burning melt, they got none? They recovered no, none of that gold where that goal at? Well, we are greeting the motherfucker right, you know, I don't find that gold in problem United State where they go. Let when they got rid of robbing uh, those those those those Arabic countries, from all that gold that was here in the United States. Bro,

that was one form of getting away with it. When they got rid of killing all those people that was at work in the trade center, there was one way of getting away with it. They said, we got away with that, Let's go to the next phase. They do different things that they already wrote about. This kid has already written the two Tolls of Babylon would be destroyed by two two birds. Wasn't that already want? Yeah? No, tradamis well one of the lumin naughtic two Tolls of Babylon.

A lot of this stuff is already written. Brother, there if if if, if UK did the same thing that they doing, giving that day to people money gaved people like that, and they ruined the UK economy and they haven't recovered from it yet. You understand, what do you think it's gonna do to the United States. It's gonna ruin the economy, Right's gonna ruin everything. On that note, I think everybody needs to follow up on this ship. I know, I do. Um, it's just a scary thing.

It's a scary thing, not knowing where we're gonna go, not knowing if you don't see your grandkids and kids grow up because of the way they're running his mother planet. Um, it's crazy. But yeah, you know, let me ask a genie for the people out there. What's the name of your channel? Oh, it's uh the Gene Deal Show, Cooking a Conversation, y'all gotta right there, people, Gene Deal Show, Cooking and conversation. You know, like James said, he's gonna

be going up with at the Chocolate up man. It's this beautiful thing, man, And see brothers getting along and moving forward to stuff. Man. That no people, James, you want to send them up? Man? Thanks for watching another episode episode fifty two or fifty three, I ain't sure. Episode fifty three with the games of Chronible and uh man, we appreciate y'all. Listening to us. Big ups, James Deal.

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