Episode 106: Guilty

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For my Apple users, hit the purple mica on your front screen, subscribe to Against the Chronicles and leave a five star rate in the comment. There's a lot of stuff right now. We got a rare guilty Verdico you know, these guys are liberated for a little bit over ten hours and they pronounced the former police officer Derek shows them guilty on all three charges, the second degree murder, third degree murder, and second degree manslaughter for the murder

of George Floyd. Now that was surprised to me because I just knew they was gonna come back with a with the Shenanigans like they always do. The good that was they didn't have that. They had video and they had everything to convict that dude and the video and the people that was there that shaw him with his knee there, that justified. Man. They couldn't have They couldn't have came with nothing else but guilty. So I can

say about time. Yeah, I wasn't surprised at all. I know a lot of people was reminiscing over that o J ship or whatever. I mean, not o J, but reminiscing over Rodney King and that type of ship. But uh, I kind of felt that they wasn't gonna let that slide. Man, it's too you see what happened just in the wake of what were transpired behind him getting killed. So I don't think they wanted to funk that up again as

far as that that role. When you know, we've seen we've seen the horrible ship go down ourselves with the riots in ninety two, far as Rodney King was concerned. So and you see what happened here, man, My Funcker's told it up, even even on the aspect with George Floyd. Even before the Vernie came down, Nikolas was tearing ship up. So I don't think they wanted to get that one wrong this time you gave me. I was. I was sort of confident that they was finished up my nigger down.

Well het Yet to look at it, you didn't just have people and and and in one state looking at it. You had people all across the world that saw that video and was upset about it. Not just black people, white people, agents. Everybody was mad at that. So to come back and say not guilty, that would have that would have that would have set off a lot of people. And then they were just seen what was what what it really is out here in America with black people. So there was no way in the world it was

gonna come back and say not guilty. He was not gonna be acquitted whatsoever. And you know, but you gotta look at it. You had a video with Rodney King, and they tried to do the same thing. We we make him look like a drug at it. We made the other people looking they got a problem. And they've been doing us like that for the beginning. You know, look down on us, talk about us. We got records. So basically it didn't work this time, you know what I'm saying. And you know that dude, no he killed him.

The dude didn't have no expression on his face when they handcuffed him, when he when they read the verdict, no nothing, he was just looking like, Okay, he knew he was going to jail. Well, you know what I'm thinking too, is they about to drop his um, his co defendants, um, the police officers that was with him, because they need to go to jail too. They need to go to the bill too. They sit there and

watched the whole thing and didn't intervene. Um. I believe they need to get passed down the Night's healthy sentence themselves. And I'm really curious to what kind of time they sentenced this guy. You that's what we gotta wait on him because they could be five years, it could be four years. You know, you just don't know, and I'm hoping for the best, but you know, true then some really I think we conditioned to expect the worst. Almost not in this case. Man, I don't see them coming

back with no five, no, seven years. I think he's gonna get twenty in up or better because, like I said, everybody is watching this, just like the sentence, and just like the trial. Everybody's gonna want to see what they sentenced him to. And that judge is not going to come with no, no five years. Man, that dude is going to get some time in prison. He got. He got convicted of three counts. He ain't ben to get

no five years. I hope not. You you know, you know one thing, this whole thing brought me and I was doing some more. It would be perfect. It would be perfect to like they do us. You know, when they get us in there and they tell him, motherfucker. You know, we're gonna make an example out of you, motherfucking So we're gonna make this. We're gonna make an example. We we we didn't fucked up. We know we've been fucking up. Just the system is fucked up. You know.

The police brutality has been going on to mother. It's two motherfucking long. So we got to make an example of this situation right here for everyone that's watching. Like you said, not just in America, this is like the whole world watching. So you know you've seen the outreach that that went down. Like I said, we had Rodney King, but George Floyd when this ship reached different nations, you feel me. You know, people was protesting in different countries

and ships behind this. So this is the we got to make an example of you, my nigga. You you're gonna have to go do the max that we can allow, just to make an example of you that. You know, we can't tolerate the police behind the scenes killing niggas no more. Oh no, they worked as they did the right thing. But like I said, man, they look at

police different than they look at us. Once the police officers committed crime to me, he said, he ain't nothing but a civilian and he should be treated just like like us, as if one of us committed that crime. You know, you got brothers going to prison for life, getting life from murder, and this dude could walk out with fifteen years. Yeah, you know what it makes me wonder though, you think about the police officers. That's what

these guys when they're doing this stuff. And I know, um they got that what's that thing called the blue shield, a where the cops never tell another cops because they're scared. Sometimes. You had a sister on her name was on carry your Horn out of Chicago, you know. She said she was fired from the force and two thousand May for stopping a fellow officer from choking the suspect. She said she never wanted another officer to go through what she

went through for doing the right thing. And we got a clip of checking this out right here hight a seven Eye Witness News exclusive former Buffalo police officer Carriel Horn and a battle tonight to get her pension. She was fired for trying to stop a fellow officer she says was abusing a suspect, and tonight she is telling her side of the story to seven Eye Witness News

reporter Kendra Eagland No. Number first, two thousand or six, there was a call of officer in trouble at seven or seven Waldon that officer Gregory Kwiatowski, who was responding to a domestic dispute inside of that home between Neil Mack and his girlfriend. When Officer Carriel Horn went into the house, she says Mac had already been placed under arrest. He was handcuffed in the front and he was he was sideways and vam punched in the face by Gregory Krkok.

Horn and about ten other officers who arrived at the scene helped drag Mac out of the home, but once outside, Horn says officer Quiatkowski was out of control. Gregory Kwaikowski turned Neil back around and started choking him. So then I'm like, greg you're choking him because I thought whatever

happened in the house he was still upset about. So when he didn't stop choking him, then I just grabbed his arm from around Neil mac net If that choke hold of a handcuffed suspect caught Horn off guard, it didn't prepare her for what she says Quietkowski did. Next. He comes up and punches me in the face, and I had to have my own breads replaced. Horne says other officers pulled her back when she tried to defend herself.

Following that incident, Horn was fired, charged with obstruction for jumping on Officer quit Kowski's back and or striking him with her hands, but Officer quid Kowski's own words seemed to conflict with the charges. In sworn testimony, he says she never got on top of me. Nonetheless, Horn lost every appeal her nineteen year career over and she didn't qualify for a pension. The breadwinner for her five children.

Horn now a truck driver to make ends meet. My daughter said I'm allowed to go to work that day to never say why did you do what you did or I wish you wouldn't have done it. She just said, I wish you would have gone to work that day,

so I don't regret it MHM. Officer Kwiatkowski retired from the police for for US after he was suspended for choking another officer on the job, a separate incident of punching another officer when he was off the clock, and most recently, Kwiatkowski and two other officers were indicted on civil rights charges for holding down a black teenager and shooting him with a BB gun. Asked for Horn. The city has sent her case to the state retirement system

for a review. We contacted them for an update, but we haven't heard back yet. See you gotta do with a pattern right there. This is a thing about that motherfucker right there. You know, she's trying to stop him from choking this guy out because we could have you know, definitely had another situation like we just went through. She stops him and does the right thing and gets fired. Now the kind of cheery on top of this, the sister just want to loss. And I think she went

like one point five million dollars or something. She got her old retirement and teaching everything. But just think about how many more police officers they are out there that kind of like, you know, they go drop the dime on their partner or whatever and they get into some bs like that, you said. Just think it's it's all kind of people out there like that. She ain't the only officer that went through it. Take a thing off. This is what you gotta go through, and this is

how the police are man, you know. And it just funked up. But that's what we can't do shit about it. We could talk about it, but we ain't trying to fix the ship. We ain't trying to make it right. Everybody I know, I know, anything got his asked by the police, rough rughed up by the police. You can't go father complaining against the police. They're gonna boil that as soon as you woke up out of there. That

ship has unheard of. They protect each other. That's why I said in our line of what we did and where we came from. Uh, Like I said, you see that ship every day. It's it's not expected for you to go. I'm gonna file a reporter and they gona kick me in the ribs. I'm gonna, nigga, bust me in the mouth, in the chin with the flashlight or what. When you in the trenches of the of the hoods and whatever. You know, their motherfucker's is banging worser than

we are in the hood. And if they come through and they handcuffed you, you thought about an eight out of ten chance of getting your motherfucking asswhoop. And you just took that. You know what I'm saying. We didn't go. We didn't go running off like that because it was expected. So now we didn't buy reports and ship like that. Never fuck it. I mean, so and So fucked me up. That motherfucker kicked me in the ribs last night. Man, man, nigga,

And you go about your business, you feel me. Yeah, And like James said, we all have been touched on by the police. I wasn't living a game banger, and I don't got my ask food by the police. Before I got to the point when I was living the North Long Beach, James, I had to move off that motherfucker because I had wind cup. He took me to

jail over some boating ship one time, came back. He was touring my cars and ship like literally every other day, and the motherfucker would ride past my house like this, looking at me like this, like you but I say nothing. Just mad dog on me all the time, just being a rash to the point where I had to move and I had another party that was a sheriff, right. He told me, he said, you got a lawsuit? You for a lawsuit. I got a phone call from the

chief commander when I filed a complaint. He told me I'll need to withdraw or he couldn't be responsible what happened to me, and he wouldn't lye. But that's sucked up, dog, It's real fucked up. You know what. A lot of a lot of people don't even pay attention man. The police, the majority of the police are all police. They come to work with attitude. Police are just like us. They have family issues, the whole nine. At home. They go

through ship. Some of them grew up being bullied. Some of them, Uh, go to the military and come back with this this, this sucking attitude. I want to blame. They sucked up in the brain and they bring that ship to the streets. Some of the fucker's get a kick out of just like we did. Gotta kick out of beating up certain motherfucker's or are beating beating up

you know. You know what I'm saying. And once you get used to that and be comes a routine, and the police the only thing they say, I don't give a funk what happened to you. I'm going home to my family. And regardless of and when just saying that bullshit, they're not lying to you because this is this is the only thing on their fucking mind. You got police out there, man that that has to prove a point to the partner that he's with the business and I

got your back. Regardless you got some police ain't with it, but they just do it just because to fit into that blue shield bullshit or whatever the funk they got going on. All of them out there ain't bad. All of them out there ain't bad. Well, you see what happens. Yeah, I mean, but she's not the only one that that that ain't bad. But the whole world goes against you when you turn against your own calm, and that's what

happened to her. She would against her her coach, just like in the hood, you you your outcast, and that's what happened to her. Yeah, you figured this two thousand and eight, right, and there's two thousand and twenty one. Now she just got I think, give me if I'm wrong. I think one point five million dollars. That was eleven years ago. Bro, my math right, that's a couple of years, right, Yeah, that's eleven years ago. You froze? Can can you hear me? Now?

Can you hear me? James? Yeah, yeah, you don't see me? Eight? Yeah, So you figured this sister went through all that stuff and she said that he was doing other ship after that, James, it took the motherfucker some years to fire this man. He choked another officer out, punched another officer, choked the black kid out. It's like how much shenanigans and bullshit that he had to do before they fired as motherfucker and they say something at work. But they like him.

They liked him. That's why he was that rough rider for them. They liked him. It wasn't until all his motherfucking bullshit kept piling up that they had to funk around and terminate him. You give me, But he was one of them rough riders for their motherfucker's. So oh, you're gonna go out and punk motherfucker's and choke them and motherfucker's. Man, please, we love his motherfucker right here.

Hell no, we love he choking motherfucker's and and taking that type of stand around the motherfucker community because it shows that they get more authority as the motherfucking cops. But now his bullshit start piling up and there's nothing they can do. Now you you punch, you get me? This track record with fucking with other officers is already long. He punching out other officers, He motherfucking choking motherfucker's. But like I said, still he wanted them all. He wanted

them strong white cops. You feel me. They liked that. They liked that. Yeah, and let me tell you one more point. He didn't get terminated. He was allowed to retire and if correctly, if I'm wrong, but when they return James, they get their full severy. Don't think you're not listening to what I'm saying. He was a writer for the Motherfucker's so there's no way they find to just throw him under the bus like that. Nigga. We're gonna allow you to retire so you can get your bread.

You feel me, We boys out here stick together. You get me, So you go ahead and retire, and we're gonna sweep all that ship up under the rug and you still get your bread. But we can't allow you to continue when you got so many motherfucking reports of being a funk up, because in a minute, you're gonna kill a nigga and then we're gonna look stupid. He was only the way the doing just that because this last I guess the straw the broken camel's back was him,

you know, showing out some black kids. And then you've got another woman that don't try to run over a group of kids. Yeah, that you bring into a group of teenage black kids that could have been your grandson, James, that could have been one of your kids, that could have been your son out there. Eighth mom's own business and a woman gets the side, and I often wonder, man, our lives don't have no value on them, bro, we don't value our life. Though, if we start valuing our life,

we have value out there. We don't value our life. We take We take life every day. I wouldn't give a funk with nobody saying I don't care if a motherfucker mad at me. We we take life every day and motherfucker's today is taking life just on GP really on some stupid ship. But then we cry when there's other people? Is it okay for us to do it? Man? We gotta figure this ship out. Knowing we gotta figure this ship out. This ship ain't just. It ain't cool.

So let's get some publicity about motherfucker's out here doing these drive by shooting them up. Pregnant woman. You know what I'm saying, happen this ship don't make no sense. If what I'm saying is if we don't care about selver, ain't nobody else gonna give a funk about us, not

at all. I mean they already look at us like you know, um our existence is is is shipped to them to certain You know, I'm not gonna say everyone, but our existence already means shipped to them looking where they started where with us, you feel me, So it's already our existence and shipped to them. And then you have motherfucker's who come from the traditional fucking families and backgrounds and down home, good old boy ass motherfucking heritage,

where they look upon the ship we do. Like you said, James, when they look at us and we're banging and we're blasting each other and whatever, that just fuels their fire of the attitude that they already had with us from the gate. You give me let these dumb motherfucker's because that's what they think about us. You had a clansman kkk motherfucker's say we ain't got to shoot the motherfucker's

no more. They're doing it for us. That should have been a hit and that have But any motherfucker that ran across that message, we're doing it form are we we we assisting the police? We kill more than than than they do, the true true and as as is, if you want to count all the ship that they put us through, like the neighborhood ship that we do. But like I said, it's it's a lot of the youngness and the young minded because of you know, like when I grew up, I was young minded to the

fact that fuck it. You know, we bang, we bang, and that's it, because I didn't see anything else. You get me. As far as do I see a future or a nigga gonna be a professional or some ship

like that, I didn't. I didn't look that far. So I don't know if we have to, you know, should the niggas in the neighborhoods or the young home is or whatever that In the long run, there is a lot of ship that you can live for because proven the existence of like you said, dry by killings and going to the p n and trying to earn your weight that way really doesn't significant signify who we need to try to be as nigger as you feel me

because it fox us up the track record we got. Well, I'm like this man, and just like you said, we grew up believing that it was the right thing to do. We believe that we're protecting the neighborhood. Anytime you get in the motherfucking car, and I noticed now I didn't think like this then. Anytime you get in the car and go outside of your neighborhood. You become a predator. You become a predator because you're looking to kill. You

feel me where we cut it, killing this killing. So what I'm saying, what I'm saying is at some point, motherfucker's gotta wake up and smell the coffee. We didn't. We were doing more to our to ourselves. When a woman kid was killed, mothers against drunk driving. They came up that they marched on that and and now they I mean, you know what I'm saying, when we're gonna watch against brothers killing brothers, when we're gonna understand our situation,

you know what I'm saying. We got homies that stuck in the goddamn hood still believe it today that this is what we're supposed to be doing. You got motherfucker's that's stuck in the hood because they don't see nothing. I know nothing else, But that's the biggest thing, James, I think, Man, we need to get it because I got homeboys man like them. I was talking to Glasses about want of the homies that that's what us. He said that the first time this dude ever been out

of Watson was going to Las Vegas with us. One time, I said, so, you've been living in California, old life, and you ain't never been out of watch. He said no, unless we went to the Hump and swapped me. He said, he's never don I never been nowhere unless it was with my Stepp Pubs going to Texas. But other than that, it wasn't until I got out of print, out of prison and went with Shill to to fucking Vegas. Are going to fucking Denver. But I've never seen all the

ship that I've seen fucking with that dude. There's a lot of homies just steal in the hood that ain't went nowhere now. He let me ask you this, when you first got on with the wrap thing and you first went out on your promo tour, and you know you can start to get up out of town. You're going to New York and all that stuff was the culture shop for you. At first. I used to take summer vacations back to the South, so I was used

to tryangling. My mom made it a point, like I said, we were low income, poverty living in Compton, you know, but I still have relatives Florida, Texas, Georgia, ship like that. So Mom's made it up point to put us on a plane or a bus and ship us out, so as far as down south and going and knowing how to whatever move as a kid, but as far as the rap ship going to places that I would never thought.

Of course, the first time I went to New York at eighteen years old, you know, during the rap ship, it was a culture shock to me because I had never been nowhere other than Gulfport, Mississippi, you feel me, and that was it, or Tampa Bay, Florida, where my pops was from. Other than that, I've never been nowhere, you hear me. I'm eighteen nineteen in the hood. I mean, we didn't even shoot. I didn't go to l A, you feel me, unless it was to the Untes house

as a kid or something. By the time I got older and was banging, I didn't travel out of I didn't like. I didn't go nowhere. You know, we didn't do Hollywood, We didn't do none of that type of ship because the way I felt like, i'm I'm we from Campton, so you stay in your territory. So when I started wrapping and was able to go to places like Dallas, Texas or New York or Atlanta or Chicago. It definitely was a culture shop because I was able to see the positive side out of doing something other

than banging. You did me. It was taking me different places. So it would change my attitude because you gotta meet all kind of people, different elements of motherfucking people. You give me, I'm going to different cities, and I gotta walk up in these record labels in different cities, and you know, everybody has different personalities over here. It might be full of white people over here. It might be blacks and Asians over and everybody not like us where

we come from. Everybody don't get it. So you have to learn how to adapt to that type of ship when you meet in different people. And and like we say, regular civilian motherfucker's who ain't never had a part it is. And they were to ask you questions and and why his niggas doing this? And colors and why is niggas killing and banging? And why did you have to sell drugs and do this ship? They really don't get that ship.

They don't they've done at all. And one of the things, like James said, is like we could talk about this that we blew in the face because unfortunately George Floyd wasn't the first. He's not gonna be the last brother that we're gonna be. We're gonna be gonna have probably had this conversation twenty five more times and why But I'm gonna try to figure out some loose solutions. And I think really the whole key to this man is getting to these cats while they're young, like you out

there coaching football. Eight And I missed coaching football for that fact, because you were able to impact guys and when they were six seven years old, guys that come from terrible backgrounds. Had a whole bunch of game banging kids on my team. You know. The keys wasn't necessarily game bankers, but the parents was. You could tell, Okay, the day from Carver Park, the other there from Tree Top, you know, but they come out on that football field,

everybody kind of clicked up. And that's equalizers. So what I want to do? Man? And I was talking to a um, you know, big dinners up there. You know, I mean this sons, our sons projected to go pretty high next year the draft. So what I really want to do? Eight, James, I'm beat y'all involved in this. I want to really start up program where we start

taking these kids to see different places. That's one thing I do like about the Snoop League is it takes kids about their neighborhood and they go see different places, even if it's just up this road to go to Oakland, you know, to go to friends, no play different you know, see different stuff. But that that makes it different sometimes because the first time I went to Europe it was life changing for me because I came back home and I said, Man, it's a whole another world out there.

It's a whole another world out there, big world, and we need to start showing these kids. So maybe and my whole thing is this are the twenty kids. If we can get one or two, I'm cool with that, if we could say it's one or two of them, because you ain't gonna be to say to everybody. But I really want to start getting back to the root of everything. And man, that's these babies and some of these cats. Man, once they turned seventeen and eight two,

it ain't necessarily too late for them. But they mind already made up. Man. Yeah, they started early, you know, So whatever I think, whatever you can do to show involvement with the with the with the youngs and with the youth, and showing involvement and showing that there is, you know, life outside the hood, because like I said, a lot of us be products of our environment and we and we'd be stuck and not too criticized because

I came from that ship. You feel me. But it's a lot of you know, inner city kids who you know, uh, single family, mom's low income. You know, you know that work homei'es come home from prison, the drug deal or whatever they caught gang banging. It's kind of hard to get your life straight when you're gonna be a twenty five years and you come home and then you know, the babies is left with the single moms and then they have to go through that insition of hate because

pops ain't around. So you know, if you could start there, even though you know it ain't pops and I'm not Dad, but the male figure, I feel showing importance to some of the young kids is what really could change some of the aspects. Uh, you know, letting the motherfucker see, hey, your pops might not be here at the game, but we showed up. You get me, or they might not can't get you a pair of shoes, but we kicked

up and we got you some shoes. Or you uh, your mom or your dad might not be able to get you to Oakland and ship, but we're gonna get you there. And I think when you do ship like that, it shows the motherfucker oh well, because so now you can't blame the aspect you get me. You can't be

like all with ship. My mom couldn't do this and I was left being When you show that importance and ship, then I think that makes it a great change because there was a lot of kids I saw in six seven you know, gets be bad and the motherfucker at four or five, six years or man. And I think just because I participated, and you know, oh dad, ain't your dad. I ain't never seen your pops at the game. But it's still fucking we got you. Oh y'all going

to Disneyland and Asbury Farm. Oh fucking you're going to here's your ticket, here's your ticket. I think when we do that, just like I do the ship, I'll make sure every kid on my team when they show up, what she cleats, I'm getting everybody cleats I'm getting everybody whatever because I don't kiss to feel left out. You feel me. That really funks with a lot of kids

when they feel left out of ship. So I think just showing that and being able to participate and being able to do certain little ship like that makes a whole lot of difference. And it takes a motherfucking kid from wanting to throw up the set to motherfucking want to throw in the basketball. Who could throw a football or or pick up a book and do some other ship like that when you as niggas like us where we came from, James, when we showed interest eight eight,

it's something else you could be doing. Let me let me show you, let me peep this out. Yeah, And I and I really want to bring that back though, because I read at one time changed that and they this for both of y'all. I heard that Compton at one time was producing more Major League Baseball players than anywhere else and they made baseball so expensive for the little kids. But they said that at one time Compton was the Meca for baseball. My neighborhood had all kind

of superstars, baseball, football, the whole nine in it. Uh. One of my home boys went to college. Uh, full scholarship for baseball, had a cold as arm, came home spring break, never went back. It's just the decisions that we're making, the things that we do. Man, you know we paeople are now. But when back then, when motherfucker's didn't want to go back to college, they preferred the hood, and and at the end of the day, we paid

for it. So we make poor decisions. But a seventeen year old cat can be reached out, can be reached nor Uh, you just got show him something different. Still early in the game for him, he still went behind the ears far as just being a game banging. Uh. And I don't give a high solid he might think he is sixteen, seventeen years old. He can be reached. You feel me, Well, we have to come with alternatives because my thing is this, I really want us to start.

Like you're putting your money where your mouthel is. You don't have no mon keys out there. You still messing with the kids. And I've been driving by those parts lately, Like I missed that. Like we had a little kid of the team named Ramble. Rambo was one of my hardest players. When I tell you he was every bit of two foot nothing, but one of my hardest players. I put him on the edge, on the edge when we got hard games. Say what nobody get around the

corner from the smallest dude out there. But you know why he got his name Ramble. He used to carry a pistol with him every practice in twenty two and this dude what the seven eight years old pistols every day. So we're talking to him one day and we say, man, why did you have to We don't took three games when you are already he said, coach home. When I leave here, I ain't no telling what can happen. I already had a brother, I've already lost a brother. I

lost the cousin. So this dude in his mind, he's thinking of eight years old. I have to have protection because I've seen my brother lose his life already, and I've seen my cousin lose his life. So I don't want to go out like that, you know. So it's like I think about them kids all the time because I had them from when they was babies on up. But then after they leave me, what happens to him?

You feel what I'm saying, like, like, where did they go and I, you know, I hear these stories about him, some of them in prison, some of them dead, some moving and went to college. You know, I try to keep up with as many of them as I can't. Man, But I think the only people that can help us is us. So I want to start putting my time and my our money, our efforts into doing that right there. And again, I know we can't say is everybody, man, but something gotta give. Then all it is is that

just trying to put forth the effort. I mean, it starts from somewhere. And like you said, talk is cheap. So it just has to be a scenario where you connect with something, you connect with it, and you you make it happen. Like I said, my son has been you know, he's been out of a youth football for three years now, but I still coach and I started. I went back to coach eleven twelve year old kids because, like I said, it's not even the factor to me.

It's just about connecting with kids and let my fucking kids see, Like ship, it's cool that you come out. I don't come out on the fact that they know I'm who I am or whatever. I just come out as a regular dude. And then naturally the parents start noticing and stuff like that, and it just excites the kids because they see that I could be anywhere, you know, doing anything, but you know, to me, I don't give

a funk. I'd rather be out at the park with kids, trying to teach kids about teamwork, trying to teach kids about you can get along, because, believe you me, I got living your old kids who do not like each other, you feel me, And they'd be ready to get him up and talk about I'm fuck him up and I don't.

I don't like that kid, and I'm gonna suck him up after practice, and I have to talk to kids and be like dude and pull kids together and be like, while you're around me for the next four months, nigga, we homies right here. He got your back, You got it back. Take two gloves, and you know what I'll make you know what I'll make you know what I'll make them do, James, I'm make them hold hands and skip around the whole part together while they hold hands.

That's what I make them do. Y'all want to be on my team, and y'all want to be acting crazy? Oh then I'm gonna embarrass you, because that's what you're gonna really be doing, embarrassing yourself, trying to be out here fighting that eleven years old man. You know what my son was doing that eleven playing football and living in an eleven year old life, cartoons and fucking cereal and ship like that. He didn't have no beefs with

no little kids. Everybody liked them everything. And that's what I'm talking about, Addie Levin at seven eight, you don't carry a pistol. You should be being a kid. You get me, and and that's unfortunate. So that's why I say, it's just we just have to, like you said, you just have to put up on shut up. And and that's that's why I still coach football, because I'm trying to put up and not shut up just because and show motherfucker's it wasn't just about coaching my son or

getting to that level. And now I can go cool. I might funk that I'm gonna go coach again. Why not, because that's because I've stayed around for like a year or two after my son was gone. But then the time this became too much because I wanted to just stay and be a coach, but didn't nobody want to step up and do the president's stuff. So that's what it was. Kind of like, you know what, it's getting too difficulties, you know, the time to go into that.

It's like when you running the organization, it's a lot, it's time consuming. So I get it. That's why I've never tried to be a president or nothing. That just let me coach. I take my two hours with the kids, you know, teach them some some some some sportsmanship, teach them how to get along with other dudes, and teach them how you you know, everything's about not retaliation in

that aspect, and that's it. And then maybe at the end of the day when they leave practice, they go home with the sense and the feeling of they've learned something and it's some motherfunk out there who really care about what's going on. You would feel me with me as a kid, because you know, you know you as a kid, sometimes you might not lock with the parents. Then you might not like with going on that's cool, or the brother at home or whatever, and then there's

somebody you can connect with that just understand it. All you give me, I ain't take a mama's side, daddy side, brother side of teacher side. You just be cool, don't get into no ship and me and you straight. And I think that really resonates with some of the kids exactly. And that's the thing, man, because I know James talked about it all the time. And one thing James just said, he made a really like big point because once these kids turned thirteen or four teen, they leave us, we

have to have something that work. We can really just keep something going for them for the next three or four years, something for him, because you know, eight, some people stop playing youth football, basketball or whatever and just never play again after that, right, they start getting to other stuff. You know, they may not be interested in sport no more. But we we really definitely, man, we gotta sit down and and and put some stuff together.

You're already doing the eight and I know where your heart is, would the James. And that's one of the really biggest things for us over the next few months to established some stuff. You know, shout out the snoop, shout out the flow rider, because all of them to dudes put their time and their money, you know where it's at. You know, they started with these babies. But like James said, we just can't ignore the seventeen and

sixteen year olds and stuff like that. And you know, I think it's a thing like the way they say you can't help everybody, man, but I damn should want to try. You know what I'm saying? What man? You know what you sitting there to talking about this stuff just pissed me off. Man. You know that all the people out there, start talking to your neighbors. Let's go back to the old value. Start talking to the cat to live next door to you, the kid to live

next door to you. See if he are right. My wife was telling me the other day that she saw a guy that looked like he thought he was a whole boat, like a grown man. It turned out it was like a little eleven year old kid. He was out there asking for change you in front of people's business or whatever. They called the police on him. She said, to dude, stood up, he's a little kid. You know the kids, and you know, kids should get an opportunity to be kids, man, not just like you know, a

picture the stuff that we grew up in. Man. I just couldn't see my kids living life like that. So I think some of these kids living, say he living, Some of them got to take care of themselves because mama doing something pops in that home. So some of these kids out there raising theirselves pretty much. You know what I'm saying. Uh, we didn't got bad and it's getting worser. So not only reaching out to the dudes, we got to reach out to these mothers and tell

these mothers they need to stand up and be mothers. Uh. It ain't about the club every motherfucking night hanging out drinking and getting high. You know what I'm saying. All the all the black men get the bad end of the stick. But there's some women out there that shouldn't have motherfucking kids. It's some women out there that that their kids for a boyfriend, you know what I'm saying, or for that pedophile motherfucker. So we just need to check ourselves. Man, hein the only eleven year old kid

that's out there, you know what I'm saying. In the change. Yeah, So this is one thing I want to propose all your business owners out there, everybody, We're gonna put some stuff together. If y'all want to be a part of it, hitting us up at the chronicles podcasts and Gmail dot com. You know, it ain't even hard with all the black successful men and women out here today to get an organization and you can get three builders with with fos from each motherfucking person of wealth here to build for

these teenagers. These young people are here today. You know what I'm saying. It don't take a lot of money to do this from one motherfucker's and take a jay Z to spend a million dollars. It just takes the right people to step up and put their money where their mouth is and say, okay, I invested five and get the right people to run that ship, and then we can move from there and build and grow and get these kids off the goddamn street. Teach these kids

in trade. Teach some of these kids how to read. You got you got some kids, some some talent out there that that these little young cats in or the box, and and you reap the benefits later. You know what I'm saying. You ain't gonna see him right there and there, but you read. The beneficis later. It's not hard to invest, but you just want to invest in the right thing, and four hundred dollars to save a brother or kid

is worth it that eliminates the police bullshit. Only when she see one thing I trip off of and then you gotta look at the police are sets up it. Some of us have an attitude soon as the police come up to us too. And you know, me and Reggie used to arguing about this all the time. Sometimes no matter if you got an attitude, because when they walk up to their car, to your car, they got

an attitude. They got their hand on their guns. Some of them just want to see if they can work with you and how far can they work with you. By that time, it's too late, because the average cat in the hood is like, man, why the funk y'all sucking with me? Now? They're mad? So from from from zero to fifty is on from fifty to a hundred, one of us don't got killed because we ain't replying that we ain't listening. And that ship is designed by

their motherfucker's to say stop resisting. Once you say stop resisting, its own. From that point dog his own. You know what I'm saying. Some of the ships look at and see on Facebook, just don't say ship to him. It's better not to open your fucking mouth. You don't have to tell them who you are. You don't have to mention your name. We gotta learn the law. And once we learn the law and start busting codes on they asked, they know what they can't on how they came funk

with us. Ship is on us because we ain't paying attention. And if it's a broad next to you or one of the homies next to you, we have it up. Fuck that none times out can and let them go about their motherfucking business. But if we don't start helping each other, dog police ain't been to help us and know and and nobody feel from Africa when it come help us. If we don't help those that need help, and we know we need help because they've been there,

I've been in it. I lived that life. I can't knock down thinking that pick up a pistol and go out there and do some foky ship because I live that ship. So any motherfucker that going out there and say they stupid bastard killing the wolf, he's a hypocrite and you live that life. So instead of talking and and doing all that other ship man, motherfucker's just gotta

help people, man, And that's what we are. That's why we're here, and what I want to do is I want to leave everybody on this note right there, because I think we don't text on everything. We can touch you on about this, and you know, like I said, hopefully we don't have to talk about at least for a while. Think about it. Only take a minute to lose your life. It only takes one minute, so a little simple traffic stop to turn into just a tragedy.

So the next time the police pulled one of y'all over, and keep your hands on the team, and two, give him what he asked for. Be cordial and get on even if it's a bullshit ticket or whatever like that. Just live to live to see another day. And that's it. That's so, that's all I gotta say for us. It takes away the intent, man, it takes it away. It takes the upper hand from them, you know what I'm saying. So you know what, you're gonna run into that one that want to put his hands on you, that one

that's mad. What we gotta realize, when Donald Trump was in office, they showed us they had racist motherfucker's in the military, racist motherfucker's and in office, racist motherfucking police officers and all different branches and and the Marines. The whole nine is, the odds are against us as a people because they got people in higher places than us, so they're not giving a funk about how we feel about certain ships. They're just sicking the dogs on us.

And Nick's ain't panting to these police out of here killing motherfucker's And they got women out here. Women went to jail for uh, look at these dudes out of here, day out of the trip for for for hitting with the capital. It's women, military women. It's against us. Dog. I'm scared to get my cheer poor because that motherfucker my dimness might be a motherfucking clansman and he might just suck me up with something, thank you. I'm serious.

It's people in higher places that are racist, and if we ain't paying attention to it, or we say hi to the dinners and the doctor, but it ain't just the police, man, I'm just gonna shut it down. Just man. We we really got to focus and pay attention to what's happening to us pitching off. And you know what I haven't only I know you have quite see it in my face. I haven't been this fresh using a long time. We're just doing a research to put this

episode together and doing everything. I'm like, Okay, don't be mad at the motherfucking polish if we out there commit the same exactly what That's what I'm saying. It's like we're doing the same ship. So, like I said, eight, James, we're gonna start getting busy. Thought it's sound good. Alright the show all right, fellas, all right, we'll kick you all next week. Heys. Well, that concludes another episode of

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