EP 97: The Goodie Mob Chronicles

James and Bi Stails from the streets. Hello, where are you at? This is o G Gangster Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast is bad in effect. Get ready for some of that G ship and blease up one of the We like to welcome to every one with another episode against the Chronicles podcast. And I wrote my Homeboys, Jill. You know, back in the nineties, New York ran the game, and then death Row came and the game change. You

know what I'm saying. Two thousands said the South had something to say, and here therey' all to day one for homies who come together. The further a Mantage moved, Timo big Get Cool joined Clo. Now known that the world is Goody Marvel hit the Sooner, one of the first clicks in the South. The Dungeon Family with two peoples they would definitely be the Justice League. The debut album sold about the ninety five Lakes the super producer

Rico Way's beats. These brothers showed the world that the South had real lyricists, and they forced the world by don't a matter of fact, you know what I'm saying. And then they came up with the phrase the dirty South. A lot of people don't get your credit for that. What I'm saying, let's broke my niggas goody mind, what's correctly bro with a great introduction, my brother. Yes, and that's what you're to do with men. You know in the prints of kings, man, you gotta truth them in

such feel the uh back man when you all started. Man, I'm looking at the South as our cousins. Man, you know, the West Coast and South we always got a long real good I see a lot of the homies running around. O here we go and vice versa. You know, we go down there man, and um, you know, like my roots. Man from Mississippi and miss mimpis Tennessee eight. You know what I'm saying, Mississippi and Florida, James, I'm a gaff. Indeed,

I'm Mississippi. I'm Gulfport, Mississippi and Pampa Bay, Florida and miss my roots. That that's great. Yeah my mom my mom is from Gulfport, Mississippi. So I took plenty of trips down the Gulfport right right. Well, you know we used to jump in the curtain everything man to ride down South Man. And I ain't gonna say, Man, that New York was necessarily Hayden because the things is cool, they said, you know what I'm saying, But when you know, the West first came out, man, because you know Luke

and Mr. Mixing Too was good friends of mine. They told me how to catch cut the mics out on them when he was on stage, you know, just doing all kind of stuff when you're first in the game, Man, what kind of positions with y'all? Me for the East Coast? The first video, the first video, as soon as we dropped seals there. If we got banned from MTV, they

labeled us races. So soon as we came out, we was hit with a ceiling because we were speaking, uh, something different than what was going on during the days. But I mean, like you said, uh, it really was never the people in New York. It was just always the people up in them buildings. They just wasn't gonna respect where we was from it. And I think we always put it like this, like the first time we went to the Source of Wars, that was the first time, and I think all of us saw each other in

the flesh. We had just been watching all of us. Everybody was watching each other on b T. But I mean that the Source of World, that's the person night I really got to see eight. That's the first night I've seen quick. That's the first thing I've seen death rolling everybody in the flesh routine. And I feel like from that night, we left there just feeling like we're gonna make the music. We're gonna make the music to

make them respect us. And I know that's the same way the West Coast felt that night, like yo, man,

like we earned the respect, give us the respect. So we left there with that chip on our shoulder like we're gonna keep your ass man for the next ten years and we did that, y'allure did that, man, because I know, I'll here man, and I don't know how they continue to seale there some racist man, you know, because what what what was basically considered racist and content that they said y'all was talking about, I mean, or the images of the videos I mean because if it

keev I mean the video motherfucker's. They was banning a lot of our ship back then. I mean myself included you on me, right, Yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure where they caught when they wented off relations because I just think that you know, the the information you know, um, you know that we were general and that we was

exposing or addressing. You know, I just found like they had to be able to classify it in some regard and where they come write it off to the song because we were you know what I mean, because we were you know, we we we were being affected with the information too. You know, it was coming to hit record at the time, That's what I think, you know what I mean? Yeah, y'all definitely came with like with the sale Therapy record, man, y'all talked about that was

really like a prophecy. Almost all the ships, y'all talked about and that record man is happening right now. That that ever suck you all up? Yeah, Man, looked at the ship Man. It was some of that stone was answered happening right then, and just one publicized. You know what I'm saying. It want nobody to speak on it, you know what I mean. So we were speaking on it for folk, just not really connected with it because it's in everybody's face right now, you know. So we're

talking about pree iPhone, you know what I mean. This that was before this generation, you know what I mean. Only it's something totally different from something a totally different times on tom War. So the information that we passed right now so fast, it's just man, I'm just I'm just thankful man that that right now we're relevant. Man, people got gotta help what we gotta say. Man, I'm glad you all were able to hear that ship Man because the ship Man is serious right now. If you

look at what's going on. We got a different president in place, But you know, what's what's what's the underlying issue that we all see right now? What's what's the unseen hand? Right now? You can't get to relax. Yeah, we got a bad thing. Who gonna take it? You know what I'm saying, y'all don't want to take it. I don't want to take it, but some people take it. So it's like, you know what's it's a it's a big money play. It's a big money play right now? Yeah,

yeah exactly, Yeah exactly. And that that's the thing right there. It's like in Atlanta, you all seeing so different because it's a black city. It's like I was telling it before we came on. I went down Niggas, my MoMA live down there. That ship is like the conda. It feels so good to walk in the soul food restaurant without seeing the Japanese person back they're cooking my greens

made to the people. But a going out. You know, when you go to the soul food restaurant, you want to see a big black woman look like I don't want to just like I just like if I go to a typic place, I want to see it mixed into with my tapels. I don't want to go back. And taco too is different than Mexican typos are black. You know, you you go, you go, you see a nigger back there and make picking some tacos that you fail to get that, but ground beet and key now.

And I was always able to make the connection between the South and the West Coast because you know, we were doing taxi suits at court suit, you know what

I'm saying. So even if even in the even in the fashion, you know what I'm saying, or maybe the draw or the way that was spoken, man made through that, uh make that that connection with the West Coast, you know, yeah, exactly like I see it, Rick Cousins, because you know when I go down to um if you remember back in the nineties, man, you know when you would go to Houston, Atlanta of different places, we all addressed the same the reason we worked church. That was true. M hmm,

it was true. But it's just like you know, that was that was our uniform, man, that was our daily motherfucking uniform, a khaki super ship. It it'd be fined who we were as uh as motherfucker's with our signature on the West Coast, you know, Uh, it was our state, you know what I'm saying, wearing the khaki suit, you

know what I'm saying. So that's where a lot of picked up and I think from the South gravitate because, like I said, I went to the South a lot to take trips, you know, some of vacations and ship like that, family reunions. You know. I never ventured to the East coast. Yeah, find a record deal, you get me. So both most of my family vacations in the summer vacations was going down the Gulport, Mississippi, or going to Houston,

Texas or Louisiana somewhere like that. So I think that's where the music trying to laid us cousins, because we kind of familiarized ourselves with each other. What's the difference between and yeah, Atlanta, what's the difference in a later New York? I mean to me, I look at real motherfuckers and back then you have real motherfuckers rapping and a loose to that. So it really wouldn't know different to me. Whenever I went out of town with SHO, you all still have to be ready because you know,

motherfuckers say all the motherfuckers ain't killers down there? Bullshit, everybody killers every I mean, you know, you got rappers all over the place. What made different? I don't, I don't. I still don't understand that. What's what's the difference between Atlanta and l A when to well, I'll tell you what the difference is. Uh. The difference was in Atlanta, gangsters couldn't be gangsters on the outside. The coffee gangsters in this city was considered keen. What's considered abane because

consider those kind of people. Those were the real gangsters because to us, they beat the system. So when it came to three ships, like real gangsters really had to talk to them politicians back then, like Jos Williams was a real gangster, but he was super you know what I mean. It was just the presentation of it was totally different, and it was about damn near it was.

It was in the church. Those were church men that was doing all that over Those were actually church But at the same time too, gangsters were really they were different, like like I didn't know different between West Coast and certain gangsters too. I went to Denver, Colorado, and my cousin get up and that was the first time I got introduced to gang bangers. And when he would get up in the morning, he would instantly to get his get an iron out, do his T shirt, do his cakie.

That was every day ship. You know what I mean, Like damn, Like he was like, Yo, this's a uniform, you know what I mean? And I and I didn't. That was the first time that I got in the car and they went on who Rides. That was the first time that I heard et for then to click too short, y'all, you know what I mean? End up, That was the first time. And to be able to be in a game banging environment. When I came back home,

I was turned out. It was like something that I never experienced before, so I didn't I didn't recognize what it was until I got into the environment of Gang Bang. It's a difference when you see people on TV and they're wearing the cakies and you're like, like, you never knew why easy to eat board khakis and had a skull capital because you're like, y'all in the West comes it should be hot everything. But you didn't see that at night they get cool. You need Joe Fleming. You

know what. When I got that, when I got to Denver and I got around other game bangers, I saw how to dress and the environment all made sense exactly exactly. Let me ask you this, man, I understand that that's that's when I really understood that the uniform with game bangings a read it's a reason why because they consider theirselves soldiers and for toombs and these are sex and we are and this is our uniform. And you don't know that when you're watching it from the kids that

standpoint on this side of the TV. You know what I mean. When I watched you know what I mean. So you don't know until you get into the environment. Why courts, that's why why you wear courts. Many diggers down here that whoe dickies, the niggas actually used to work on cars, you know something about work in the warehouse that would be they work closed. I mean they want absolutely banging. But they was like some family diggers that if you funk with them with their family, then

it's on. You know what I mean. That's the tax what I mean, Like to this day, I go speaking something yo, dude, the wet diggers, and and he just wet Diggs because should you could go to Walmart still clothes from dick He said close, you gotta spend a whole once you got their money on the clothes like they're doing right now. So I definitely don't hain't saluted y'all man for that ship man, because she we were wearing them whole suits, them whole overalls. You know what

I mean. It's just really just in the trap, you know what I'm saying, Just that that was our trapped gil. You know what I'm talking about. Up on that ship. We just had out read. But once we jumped into that ship, it was time to go to work. Whether you was clocking me in ninety five or when you was traveling from nine to five, you know what I mean. So, I mean, it ain't even a no big difference between us.

It's just a time zone really. You know well, I said that every time every time I do records or when I used to put our records and ship and I used to talk to motherfucker's I always wrote my records in the presence of niggas is all the same everywhere. You know what I'm saying. If we got niggas like this in my neighborhood, this niggas just like this down

in Atlanta, Mississippi to New York. So always based my ship upon that because I never tried to base it on we were the only gangsters or whatever, like James would say, ship niggas is hard everywhere. You know what I'm saying. Niggas just shoots you where every we don't. I'm saying, it don't matter wherever the funk you ask. You do a nigga thirty and he about his business. Nigga, you're gonna catch that heat. So we we related and sort of all struggles and the poverty and all that

type of ship. And I'm saying, all our parents came from one place. You give me, yes, we got all doing music though, that really connect and stuff. You know what I'm saying, Like like jazz and like blues and like soul music. You feel what I'm saying. So, oh, that ship connects us because we're pouring. We're pouring our

life and this ship you know I'm talking about me. Yeah, you can dance to this ship every now and then, but when you really started listening to this ship, they's just pouring out their hearts and their souls about what the fun going on in their neighborhood. And you know what I'm saying, ship like that, So I look at that the music too, man, That ship connects us all man, So they ain't that much of differently, you know what I'm talking about that's right, got bad. It's funny to

me too. It's like like when morm Jay said Shure, It's like I never like we never looked at Shugar just being threatened. Like we just like where we're from, big big dudes all the time, you know, big company then, you know what I mean, Like did be you know what I mean? He was like like you know what I mean? So like that, I never when I got around them, like sooner that that night after the source of was That's the first night I met corrupted Dad. So it was like we've been cool every since, like

everybody that I ever met from the West Coast. It's like we still together twenty years later, like I can God, Dad's how still where yet? Recalled? Oh you know what I mean? Like met back then? I mean I remember Snoop you used to bring uh Timoko. Then we need to the to the La Montrose in the path find me you know the thing is man, and then lead up to my point. Right y'all got y'all get guns easiest round there. Everybody in their mama got a pistol aloud.

That motherfucking man. How was there like if they had an impact on the gun violence down in the city. Man, white folks got the matter of fact, they don't damn it about all of them, you know what I mean. So they've really down with them with that second is that the second Amendment? That the second if you ever bel on and and the white folk down here take that ship like a commandman, you know what I mean. It's almost like they're looking at you black damn why

you ain't strapped? I mean called, I see old white folks down here going up in Crowber and the grocery shore getting out the car strapped with the ship on them. You know what I mean. The thing really is, it's really black on black though, really, you know what I'm talking about. At the end of the day, we got really more in that then they got them white on black, you know what I'm talking about. They just once they got them put it on the news that the police

on the shide of a black person. Then that's what niggas getting really emotional. But if you look at the statistics, they shoot more wife folk than that, you know what I mean, We just get got more runnings with the podies. You know what i we got, We got more black we got running is with the police because Atlanta is a special kind of city. At the same time, this is the only city that you're gonna have crypts, bloods,

g d s, vice lords, and and Mexican games. You're not gonna head at in l A. You're not gonna have cryps having beat with g ds. That's gonna be. It's like that in the Atlanta because it's enough Chicago people here is bringing their culture here, and it's enough l A people here they and then you've got the people from Atlanta that has gravitated to one side of that culture, either to the Chicago drill or culture or to the l A gang coaching. But it's all a

mission Atlanta. So that's why right there you're having a lot of shoots, because you're having a lot of people that's it's really banging on each other. That's not that you're supposed to be banging on each other, but in this city that that they're just as that they side by side. That's think about world start right, and you got niggas brandish, the pistols are all in the world. Start right. You know what I'm saying. White folks see that ship too, so they're scared too. They're scared the

motherfucker too. So that's like all the all that got them. They on fifteen on pistols. Damn, you can't damn they'll find unless you build that ship on your own, you feel I'm saying. So it's like this is what these niggas are listening to. And the don'to new type of type of dog too, you know what i mean. We you know, we came up, We came up out the brown weed first, you know what I'm talking about. You

know what I mean. Then when we came out to l A, we really was like, oh man, but that ship then make us come back to a manner and shoot motherfucker's you know what I'm talking about it. Then it had an effect like that. So it's something. It's something else going on, man to where unbolenced of months, our home people. You know what I'm saying is it's got them. It's is at an all time Well today you don't have leadership today, you don't have that that

that big homeboy. Are that that one that one guy you can look up to that's telling you that this ship ain't cool. So I got a mix of motherfucker's out there drinking like a lean and all that up ship, which we didn't have that back in the days. And then you got motherfucker's crank co game now all the different type of ship that they can't even happen, but they're using and they don't give up my body only. So that's the big problem that that we have in

the inter city in the hood. You know, we're doing ship that wasn't unheard wasn't heard of back then, So you don't have that control, you know what I'm saying, And nobody want to take the listening to grab whole whatever mean. So it's just it is what it is right now and it's gonna stay that way. Somebody just slow these young cats down. Hold that thought, brother, we'll be right back still. James eight, y'all need to better give me my fine Donald I put that on the set.

I need to go give me some water. Mirror my motherfucking feet fucking with me. Gangster chronicles of my ass pay granted her money. It's gangster granny. Y'all know me? Where are you ask? If you look at a lot of our ship from back in the days, you know we're banging this chip um. We represent it as far as you know, our neighborhoods and the blocks we came from, whatever, but get that music. Um, we really didn't have the avenue, so to speak, because like I said, the record labels

were banners, video stations were bammers. If we promoted our shipped to a certain extent of gang banking. Um, the youth of today are living they affiliations through their music. I mean, let's face it. Yeah, the ones that you know we get the violence from the hip hop whatever. Um, they live in their affiliations through that music. You know, we got a lot of set claiming, we got a lot of you know, funk your hood, this is my hood. We dish we that you know, and niggas is crrry

and that's beef across states. You feel me like we we had little beefs in our music, you know what I'm saying or whatever. But for the most part, we concentrated on our ships, on just trying to get our ship out and our subjects or whatever. We didn't really concentrate too much on that motherfucker across town or whatever. Whatever. But now that you've got the access that the youth got,

you get me. You know what I'm saying. I could start beefing with a nigger down in Atlanta with the head, with the with the with the hit of a button, you get and and and then I could jump. You know what I'm saying. Niggas want to venture the towns and ship and they thinking, you know, I'm harder than

this nigga. And like I said, you coming to my town and beefing with me across five states and ship and then you show up acting like you hard It's gone ending a lot of gang violence, you know what I'm saying, Because look at this when I if I saw a good at my video, I seen cats having a good time. Yeah right, you you watch one of our videos, I might have to kill that monck if I ran into him, exactly ship. It was. It was a big difference though, you know what I'm saying that,

Like I had to carry my gun to this video. Shoot. If you watch the video or you know some of that are there, you know it was totally different. It was di We didn't allow. We didn't allow it. We was we was we were so head, you know, like being in the nineties, it was it was hands on us the respective that you wasn't he just pushed it in your face and kicks you up your gass. Man, if they ain't respect you, you couldn't talk, no tough ship.

You couldn't do none of that ship. So it's like being from that era and there being in this era. It's almost like, man, it's it's like day and night because like E said, you can't start the people somebody, most of these beaste folk getting into on the internet. So you're like, what's the end doll to this game? What's the end dog to this game? Well, it's just like what what I learned? They said, give what's bigger

than the super stuff and then superstar the game. The game now just pushed these kids and to somebody knock their weed on. Now we control they whole and they hold this. We're just waiting on somebody knock six nine head off, and whoever been putting that money on his head they gol. So if you look at it right there, it's kind of turned it into a very evil game, right then, hip up, especially when it comes to dead

rappers being pimped by other rappers. Mhm, right, I don't know if I heard some country that beef and oh goddamn, we had heard country because I don't. I don't get that. You know, like I said, we be the system today is that motherfucker's beef for popularity? You know, I never I never got that. You know how we did records and music back in our days. We got popular and we got known off for our pure music and what we could spit about. And if you could spit megga,

then you you that you was there. That The game right now is I need to prove that I can. I'm I can talk more shipping you in my hood is better than you. My block is better than you. Fuck your record and fuck you. We didn't do that. Nigga put out the record back in our days. If they wasn't to eat his own nigga, that that's him. You know what I'm saying, How you feel about storing souls records? Nigg In the interview, I would be like, hey, you know, hey, it's all right. You know it is

what it is. You know, he doing loans and they ain't saying about me. Nowadays, it's like, how do you feel about this nigga record or that ship shot? That's that ship stuck? That ain't better than so and so block over here are sowing soul hood down, Nigga. We the hardest motherfucker's around. Fuck you, nigga. If you got beef, they can come on through out here. That's what nigause.

They civilized man in the rap game though, boring man. Yeah, you know one question I wanted to ask you a real quick man Atlanta has and anybody see otherwise, the Atlanta has a strong hole rep and hip hop right now and link going over no time soon. Um, But they got some dope lyricist. I don't know, some real dope keys down there. I don't see something. It's real creative down there. Man. Um do you guys do about it? You know, intermingling with the younger artists in the city. Yeah,

he love log just did something with we. We we definitely stay connected to the youth, you know what I mean, whether it's uh, you know, just the reperencent of the spect uh you know, or just you know, just uh acknowledging, you know what I mean, Like you know what they contributed in the work, in the quality. You know that they continue with representing the city. You know what I'm saying.

So I guess I'm lot of love and acknowledgement. I will say that like, I just got to doing the record with Earth Gang, and they get a lot of um there's a new Young Cats they signed to J Cole and um they don't you know saying you know that they get a lot of outcast comparisons. So they come across the children of the Dutchet family, the obvious in fluences. You can you can see this obvious. But they're doing their own thing with you know what I'm saying that, and you know we just slute that we

can support it. So it's anything we want to get underneath them and be that support system, being their corner, you know, if they want to come and you know, sit and get some O G. Game, just get some advice that so want and so forth. A lot of the conversations are really intimate and personal and cashule in that way because this is like what I like to call a big little city, you know what I'm saying. And then O O G. I want to I want to cap ourself with that should said earlier too. You

know attention, bro, You know, attention is a job. I mean, it's highly addictive, you know what I'm saying. So you know, these kids, man, what they dinner with you know, they they they they they they dinner with paying too with the mist that so when the job used, you know, it's a it's a difference between chol used ins abuse. So damn it. Then were they they were all in pain I'm saying, right, we're staying pay tell me any else. Right, So if they're dealing with things, you know, this is

the way they deal with it. But that the issue with stagation, and they aren't not to deal with it directly or maturity as adult because they got a Dolts. They can't with a new story, you know what I'm saying. So in that altar stake, they're not even themselves. They don't they don't, they're not in constant communications with an

actual stuff. But it hasn't been realized yet. So the motherfucker's that's community needs more than are those off the egos and those personas you know, which can still classify espirits or gens or evil, you know what I'm saying. You know, the only candy ship around here larger I thought with that because it's running, it's not supposed to instigate or a debate. It's one they SUPs to be a disclaimer that conserves it forsoors life. If you know when they got it on them. You know what I'm saying,

You feel me. You don't want to think twice about that. So I think everything should be Overcary. Really, it'll say more lives if you have me on the said James, I've seen some ignorant ship that's doing now. They walk up on you while your piscil and your host and take that motherfucker and run out the store with it. I'm g gonna tell you how. You know how you know not stupid ship run through your brain. You're not

stupid ship run through your bath. You know what I'm saying that you see somebody with the pistons, you're like, man, I don't want to take that mother Like now what motherfuckers are actually recorded? Motherfucker's doing that ship man taking their ship. And when they do like this, the nigga

like they're running out of stow. Man. We all I wanted to be man, we got the game go over, bro, even when you guys wanted gewelry and ship like that, I'm staying like I want Georgy too, And I know I know the emotion that is sent from like running this is how funk up we are told each other. Man, this is how deep it goes where I say hatred, hatred for our whole brother you know. I mean it's the fact that we wanted joy a woman in another nigga face. You're trying to create a back them they

sho so you could kill another man. Mhmxactly what I'm telling you. The whole back of that. I feel it's a dad, you know what I'm saying. Like, so like you know, if it's like you don't know you guys need the horner than what they's skill to get busy because a lot of stars didn't want to get the strike. I haven't feeling I'm young enough at me, so I know how I feel the polar furs, you know what I'm saying, Like, and a lot of time you don't want to got them be built the same way to survive.

It took them back to for me to you know, like to be to beat counted, to be in the noble. You know, I'm saying, that's something you just get for those with it, So you know, who what else are you going to be born? And that's war there. I didn't say. You know, she has a blood that she can't get try and steal the thought. You they can't go to the cot and to come no tree like you know what I'm saying, right, boy, thanks to my nature, not my choice. God damn come on, man, great game

with my choice, that's right now. Yeah, the jeesus PTSD man, because we have to stay war part the time. Now we'll get some days out there being ge this, this, these avails and these fars. Now they got to go when they hit them in the back of the hand and now said that. You know there there just a beet I had, now I had under the room, and I'm telling the platform you know what, right, Yeah, sorry, yeah, sorry, a little a little contribution, just a little bit, just

a little bit. One of my favorites. Too many. You need to know that, man. Good love. Man. I I've been following y'all since to be given man. Like I said, I've always been a nigger interested in different forms of music, not just on some gangs to ship and y'all set the platform for, you know, for other niggas to know that it wasn't just about New York or West Coast, you know what I'm saying. So it made me proud to be able to have some cousins from down south.

You know what I'm saying to represent man, and I'm banging. I'm banging looking through my window every day all day. Man. It's just it's one of those classics, man, that everybody from out here. Man, I don't give a funk who you are. Man, y'all put out music that is a staple for even us from the west. Coach, you feel me right now, we realized that ship man. At the end of the day, the individual to be your natural self.

You know that's right. You gotta be alone, and that you don't saying you can't be got to be alone at first until you inspire other individuals, you know, man, right exactly? All right, Phelis, let's pay some bills real quick. We'll be right back still. James eight, y'all neggas better give me my fine dollars. I put that on the ship. I need to go give me some water. Mirror my motherfucking feet fucking with me, gangster chronicles. My ass tain't

granny her money, it's gangster granny. Y'all know me where you off? You know? Want one thing I'm gonna go back to earlier. What you said, Man, that's dope, dick y'all working with the kids, because I think I was a and R for a publishing company man for six years, and I saw kids take the most funked up deals, even after I told him not to eat left. I said, hey, man, check this out. Go to your attorney man and tell him to change this that. In the third, I'm gonna

tell you the thing that happened to me. I had a kid I signed for Texas man, for one of the few kids they let me sign. You know, the mother Fellers putting get your pain with no eating that motherfucking yeah. What wants you to take the work in research all day? Right? You gotta go to an some fifty year old white motherfucker you know wrope. No this to the white folks. I did, But you gotta ad some picky year old white motherfucker. A well, let me

do the research on him and I'll get back to you. Right. So I tell this kid man, I said, hey man, we just got a plattin and black Dog. You know which ice coren't plant job ship, right? You know who's getting everything? I said at my nigga, you're about to start making a look change, I said, Heller, you wanna you want to you don't. You don't want to co publish the deal no more because it was the time that we're up right, you don't want to co pub deal no more. And they had to put the type

ship and the nigga. Okay, big dog, I got you, I got you, I got you. Want to do this something do that? Man. He got a front of white folks, man, and they put that money out their cash money. Man, that motherfucker man Dog. Yeah, I went on here to be signed. I think it's best for it. And that motherfuck is sitting at home. I think you're going to

job right now. Some ship dogs. He's so frustrated, you know. So, I think it's important man, that we get these cats man the game man for the ones that we are listening. I'm saying, it's a whole another loveler dope. These motherfucker's is on percosets. I saw the at one time, Man, I was in the studio with glasses Man. I saw motherfuckers take three person sets, shoot the motherfuckers and chase it down with glean Listen, and you know what I say, want about an hour lady when he broke up somebody.

He couldn't breathe. I said, man, he could take the ass you to take you. I wanted to answer this question though, man for the honey cool Joe Man using the car answer in two thousand and one, and I gotta give it up to you. Dog. You'd be out there, you'd be out to get it in. Dog. How did that? How did that impact you? Like? Mentally? Man? You know you know the physical part? How that impact you? Like? You know what I'm saying in the head man, everything

it impact? We really fucked up, man, because now you know what I'm saying. Now I have looked on back onto it. It was it was a selfish move for me because I'm leaving the up. You know what I'm saying, Lick, you know I'm talking about, I gotta drive home, you feel me? So I made a funked up decision to do that, you know what I'm saying. So not only when I did that, I put my friends, family and the bo what I'm saying, I put my group in a buying So it was it was bad. It was

a bad decision making on my part. You know what I'm talking about to do that ship You know what I mean. So even though I made that drive plenty times, you know what I'm saying from the club, you know what I'm talking about, but doing just that time for it happened to me, you know what I'm talking about, because hey, ship is that then what it is? You know I'm talking about. So I had to learn a lot from that ship, you know what I'm talking about. And I got a little that ship for the rest

of my life. And I got sons too, So it was supposed to happen to me because I didn't die at a time, you know what I'm saying. So it's something for me to let my sons know and keep teaching them about ship. Don't you gotta think first, man, don't do no, don't make no stupid dumbass to see to do ship like that I'm talking about. So it impacted me a lot, brother, because I had to sit down and reevaluate myself, you know I'm talking about. I mean, I just shut down for a while. I just chucked

down for a minute, bro. But you know, most high show worse, you know what I'm talking about. I'm a I'm a dirt badass then, but most I show mercy on me at that time, Bro, if it wasn't as as terrible as it was out at a d U y, Bro, I the little things, Like I said, Man, here in the reason I asked to touch you on me, I

had a homeboy that I'm real close with. Man. And when I tell you, we're gonna played college football together, right, and I'll tell you the ring of four three forty man could jump the five team jump on the back of a truck, you know, just jumping. That motherfucker. The most incredible applete I ever seen. Man, he lost his leg. Somebody shot him when he lost his you know what I think. And I remember, Man, I was talking to

him one night. He hit me up and he was talking about like just like Man, I got everything, took it from me, and I had to tell him. I said, Man, you've got God got another purpose for you. No, got another purpose for you. Just seeing the stuff he go through. Man. You know, I don't know you personally, man, but salute because you were there doing your thing, moving and shaking m You know the most of my family and and

the mob. You know what I'm talking about. That that was my place, that was my God, that was my that was my leading my leading point, you know what I mean. But it's like you gotta you gotta keep going because I remember being a little man in the neighborhood and I remember seeing dolls in the neighborhood and then he had one. He had one leg missing. When that motherfucker I seen him the next day, I see him the next day. I was like, damn, well, that

ship got to be tough. Bro. I'm talking about you got to got their fit for your silver three lads, and you're a dog in the neighborhood. No, with's a lotta got them Hollywood, roll back the visit place zone got them one. You know what I'm saying. Damn So now I think about that same ship like ship, if I still got that, you know, saying, they got the drives, they got the motivation to do it, I might well do it because they're gonna be a time when Nigga can't do it. Think I gotta keep it real. Don't

be a time when they ain't going. So they gotta go as hard as he can right now, you know what I'm saying, regardless of the criticism, regardless of or whatever, they just gotta go hard and deal with that ship. You know, it's a nice like a guy. There's are promised type of attitude. You know what I'm saying with me special with Survival Kid album. It's a lot of people we got going on. You know, I'm saying something I graces a just dying off like Prince market d

you know what I'm saying. So it's like this, this is what we do, you know what I mean. We gotta keep putting music out and they haven't got it to what night. It's about streaming now. So it's almost like them, you gotta work double time and you gotta put you and then you gotta gotta them. You know, you gotta put bread over here for their playlist, the

bread over here, the market, this type of ship. So it's like old white folks do it every day and one faint of missing one I being foot gone diabetes. They just did gotta keep it going for the kids. Bro. That's what we do exactly. People. That's type people we are. Man, we got them. In the face of adversity, we get we get stronger. The type of people we are, that's type people we come from. Yeah, exactly, it's differently, you know,

lie Man, to just keep pushing forward man through adversity. Man, you know there's something been moving to I've been going to ask you and I still want. I said, we interview these bigger man because that had a question. You got some in your body, don't your dog? Yeah? Have you ever been out the blade before? Man? Huh? Have you ever been on the blade before? If you're a tip before, yeah, he said, yeah, make his chick. Let

me just and I'm gonna tell you man. You know my uncle's man, I'm originally from Ohio, right, I come from a long line of pinch right. M My uncle book used to tell me, man, it ain't it ain't it ain't gotta it ain't an even something. You know what I'm saying. So you can just tell certain things the way they moved man, and everything. Man, Yeah, I mean, but that's I mean, that's a skin of that, you know, Man,

Like for us nineties folks. You know, the world changed for us changed, man, when the two thousand hit, that two thousands five, A lot of things, you know, the way the world was moving. Well, you know what I mean. It's just you know, you know, once you've been in the game for teen years, you get tired, you get tired. You get tired of the whole rigular role. You're trying

to find other things to do. And man, you know in them dark places, man, you know them street skills kicking man, when the when the industry ain't death, you know what I mean? You know like uh, you know, like and you know when you get dark man ship before we try, we're gonna got them. We're gonna pull it out of their lighte jan and uh. One thing about it, man, you know women are gonna take care of We got them the right one. You talked to it right. So hey, man, you know you either go

chew drugs and you're gonna chew the game. So you know, because you know, not here pimping with dupe man, you know, snacking young girls up with chain with man. But I saw my uncle. Man, he's still with his bottom woman. They got kids together, you know, I got kids and stuff, and they I think, I think, like doing their three shillings off at one time. Man, My uncle like tim d yeah, to put his hands on their bro He

just talked and they moved. Yeah, some people got that still, man, I learned that young you know, like like that ship hush still you like that huh yeah, man, that's what's wrong. What's wrong with the James James don't don't don't. I think it's something don't happen with his phone. He'd be back on here in the minute. But you know one thing, man, I want to tell y'all cats, Man, it's good to have your back in the game, man, because I'm not

never gonna be one of them old niggas. Disting with the young cats is doing that stay ship you feel like this day time. Now they're doing what they do. But we got hippop Gregs, but now we got nigga just fifty years old that was raised on hip hop. I'm listening ena rap music, so I gotta have me some ship listening to too. I keep having nigga Mike

hearing you know all that. You know, man, you know these kids out here, some of these niggas wrath like that nigga from soft Park Soft Park, what's the little dude for South Park? And yeah, yeah yeah, some of these Let nigga sound like Kenny from Soft Parking. Just put him the AM tune on it, And I said, man, this hes a love for another because my son is sitting around his motherfucking bumped that ship all day and to try to tell me, Man, I almost had to hit my son. One day he told me I was

listening to scar Face. He said, man was very harder than him. Who's that? I said, scar Face, I'll see it. Man, you bite your tone with nigga in front of you know what I mean? And I ain't no this loosy person. Y'all niggas out there, don't be clipping my video what we're talking about still don't you're gonna go viral and the man because make on me all in your ship with that one nigga value you man into my next thing? Man, how do y'all just come from the era that we

come from? Man? Back to the day you know you're going to promo? Do you do what album? Man? You now? They said it right now. It's just like, man, this ship is just like, Okay, we're gonna put the album out for two weeks. He had two weeks, think we're gonna put the album out tomorrow. And in a lot of ways it's better, man, but I ain't a lot of dog. I was talking to Mac tim one day, right and I was asking my said, nigga, get you get off your ass and get back in the studio.

He told me, said, Still, I'm gonna be honest with you, ain't the same no more. I used to like going to interact with with the fans, going to go do the in stores and all that other stuff. You know what I'm saying. How it was before we get interact with the teams. You're going from too, you go to different city. Man, I'm just like, it's just not the

same no more. Have you all ever felt like that, if you ever got at the point where y'all feel like, man, this is way different now, I mean, you know what it is. I mean, it's what people don't understand that we still we never stopped moving. So even after we did, you know, we started doing our solo albums um Cooljo was still cool. You put out a book, could you put out an album? Timo was still doing a lot

of stuff. I went it, did five years with Nelly, low with It, did five years with Danger Mouse, you know what I mean. So we still was kind of like in the mix of what was hot and what wasn't hot, and we still was still kind of seeing that the industry was changing because of the content, you know, what I mean and what they were putting their money on, you know what I mean. So it was just a different spin. When I got with Nearly and we did a go out then eight, you know, so it was

still we were still over there. All of us are still talking. So I felt like once we came back together, and then once we low did the Boys, we did a TV show on TVs. Then we did were the first rap group to have a Vegan show. Low Low Head the Vegan Show at Plane in Hollywood. So we were still doing things. I just think that the industry has just turned. They they head to the younger generation because they know they could go like like we just said, they can go pip the young when they exactly when

they see us. But we're still being able to be here and still be able to be relevant without their help. They shine them. That's the reason why they started paying these kids meals of dollars. So they wasn't this nus. So if a kid a rived to see most of these kids and they've reached, man like this ship, this ship rich right here. Man, these kids sit right here six eight million dollars and then there's a whole bunch of you know what, I mean, and that streaming money.

If you got you to three lettle hot look hot little songs on that stream and chick and some of these kids can see two hundred three hundred four hundred thousand dollars a quarter. That's a stream of check. And I tell people all the time, us coming from the nineties, we don't even know what the stream and check look

like exactly. So it's like when the kids they love man, we get knees off the street, we get millions all god damn the deals, and we still think about the You can look at love babes and example, he'd been at the house the whole pandemic, right, he still made nineteen million dollars in the pandemic and ain't been nowhere. That's that's the difference. And that ship that US coming from the nineties, we don't even know what that feels like.

So just a baby talking to a kid. Then it's all over twenty five almost thirty million records on his first two records, and he's sitting on that kind of cage. They ain't got no what's the conversation. They've already beat everything we could teach them. But what they can't what they don't know is hey, man, it's gonna slow down.

And when it slowed down, that's where you're gonna need I not because when them folks get off you and you're not new chick no more, you're gonna see how that person that you thought with your playing they ain't your friends. When that building change out on that next court and you don't know nobody in that building, and then and and don't nobody to connect with what you're doing, you'll see then you understand that you're in the industry

of business. Because as long as you got record, it's entertainment. But when you ain't got no hit record, oh it's the industry real ship. You see, motherfucker's out there. Bar in the half you just gave him. You just gave him a bar in half. The thing. Man, with these kids like you, seeing what goes up must come down. Man, don't nothing last forever, man, And you can really go out there if you're not careful. Man, I look at

these cats sometimes. Man, they're buying these Roman voices. Two they drive off the lot fifty thou dollars, you know these news fifty thou dollars, right, and then if they go put some paint on them. They don't funk it up now, even things. So it appreciates. You have to invest in the things that do appreciate, like real estate, marketing,

the land. So I'm not gonna lie, man, I'm proud man to see some of these lut cats out there winning because they got their independence spirit which came from you know, the South, from the j Princess and different people to Masterpiece of the World. So these kids kind of came up, man, like what I'm gonna do my own ship because now, man, you know, we used to go to the studio. Man, it was you know, you had two inch reels and ship. Man, you had all this other ship. You had to go, you know, really

put some ship. You know, you have to spend some money. Go ahead, you know, to spend some money. Now these little niggas, man, they're going their cell phone and make it. I heard a litle nigda other day to play some I said, what do you do this? She saw my race on my sylphone. I said, girl, you know, I mean,

let's see a game. I wished they had some ship the thing, you know, because you had to go out and then you had to come to the studio back and then with your there because you couldn't go in there, suk off the whole bunch of times man at all we go from the time, I'm gonna tell you r G, I really I thought the game started changing was that ring Tall ship started. When that ship started, That's when I was like, the game changed. When Soldier boy did what he did, I was like, wow, I understand that

boy still rich exactly. So when you look at some of these when when the game went out of the street, out of the promotional department, out of the street teams that went to the this telephone digital ship, that's when the ain't got treated. Because I'm looking at a lot of people who popular them, and I'm like, damn, ain't never heard one cargo down the street play their music exactly the same ship? Like wan who riding down the

street playing that fastass ship? Or who rides down the street playing I mean, can you see yourself like how we used to do back in the days. Maybe you roll down your window, you will hear somebody bumping some goody mob about the car. You will hear nigga a lot of this ship. I'll be like, who playing that ship? Because I don't hear this ship nowhere digital all digital. They tell they tell me that they said, gift, it ain't even about the radio. It's about the playlist. So

it ain't even about the radio no more. And and another thing that these kids got that I love is that they don't care about the awards. Them love trinkets that they used to just put up in your face and have you like, oh I gotta have at me. You don't care noting about that. Man, give me the money, man the money, gonna give me the money. Man, you keep the trophes. When you look at a kid that probably that comes from cou when you look at future and look at what he had did, it's like, bro,

they don't care really nothing about that. Look at what Drake. Indeed, when I look at how many men, I've never seen an artist stay hot for teen years, right, I ain't seen not like him. I've never seen not with the different type of records. Here you're singing head here, you're

on the ghetto records, you're breaking new artists. It it's just like this digital ship and gave a person who not gonna sleep and advantage over another person that that's still on nineties times so right now for us when when it was, when this pandemic hit, it gave us a chance to get in the studio and be like how he was on the first album, ain't nobody moving

out side. We can't go nowhere. We sat right there and we created Survivor in four months, no ghost writers, just organizing, nose us, no and ours put it out ourselves. And right now I feel like we're broken the ceiling for anybody from the night because for us right now to have a actual song out and it's on B T MTV and B T J L. Hey bro, they said we couldn't do that. They said it was impossible. So with that being said, I'm so glad that me and my group and what the pandemic did. It won't

vote from that. That's what it did, y'all up. And the thing I like about what y'all did, man, you went back and got the O G Chuck B. Howes, who's your good good hum Man? I had I had a number, I had a line on something man, right, But we had a track right. Stelo had lady to him. He had laid a verse on on the track first, and then he had like a hand like a little chorus going like are you ready? And I was like, damn,

I need to shuck. Did just sound good? Man? So and I just reached out to him man and he uh, he got back with me. Man. I was like, ship up, man, it shouldn't be be house man. If man, you could just get on the record, man, just man, just say whatever you want to say. Man, it don't matter. Man, we just needs your boss. Man. He's like, no, cool Joe. It's like, man, you you're right what you want me to say? Man, just you know what I'm saying this this y'all ship. So I sent them some ship. He's

stamped back. I was like, damn, well that just sounds good. So I gave it the Ray Murray organized lords and he went in and shopped that ship up. So got damn hard man. It's style light shu. He was right there in the studio with us. Man, you feel So that was a man that was an O G call man. Man. He came back with it. Man, They'm about to get rid of going to the grid. So then you right on time. So man, I then shout out to the O. D.

Tupman for the inspiration man exactly. He won't but definitely one of all are should be one of all of our all time favorite you'll there you know you you gotta pay homuch to check you man, And this is what I wanted to ask, see but right there right because you was a rapper, you were oh y'all, man, y'all, y'all, you know what I mean when that was like the sounds like like you know how you have certain songs, just like the soundtrack to your certain people life crazy

came might I always think about my oldest son, he was just going to high school playing football and ship you know that was that was a big record, man. But you jump completely man from that too. Damn they jumping offensive whole alternative ship man like saying I mean like that, that's that'ship, not there's a different on that other side though. Well I yeah, now, but I didn't

receive it like that. I restate I received it as um extinction um and a branch, you know what I'm saying, like from the same tree, you know, stemming from the same group. So it's all been an extension of don your family and what it enabled me to do, you know what I mean? And so um you know, just always you know trying to represent us the best uh

represent our best interest, no mean like our ability. You know, um, I will reach our range and you know, stay connected to it, and that it means, let's stay attached to it. And I say this a lot. I feel like we was able to stretch without snapping, you know what I'm saying. So permit a testament to the elasticity of the understanding you know, UM and equality. We had um as as

a large collective. So you know, I had just always felt like it was just that time, you know, it represented that time of you know, that time period of growth to development. That's just where I was. But I had done I had done variations or smaller, smaller, smaller scales of it with just keeping the hooks and keep the melodies around. No different than what Nate did for death Row, you know what I'm saying. Like that's what I was liking it too, you know what I'm saying.

So it was just a bit more expensive. I just um elaborated a bit on what I could do vocally and melodically, you know what I'm saying. And it worked. But but the treatment was who different, no different because they didn't really know they didn't associate my history. That's why I was able to stay solid through it because I had the foundation. But for them, it's almost as if I fell out of the sky. I'm just another big black niggle that could saying with what's all? You

know what I'm saying. So they still celebrate that, uh in places that I that I did my baby um and places that I really translated and did well at, which was England and abroad. You know, I mean, like they celebrate soul music and black culture more than we do,

you know what I'm saying. So I was loved at and I was harald and revered and up and exhumsted as a genuine article the real thing, No mean lack of lack of um you know, like a loop of Evangelus or whomever, you know what I mean, Like uh, you know, uh one of the yeah you know what I'm saying, so right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they gave me the world, gave me the greatest compliment, and you know I bought it on back home, like I took it as a as an adventurer and excursion, you know,

a living experience, you know what I mean. Like we went on the roller poster ride and we came on back home. You know, I mean so like. It was never about me going anywhere to stay, you know what I'm saying. It was about us going out uh as far as we can go and as high as we can go, planting our flag there numbers an't like you know, um, and claiming that's the victory, and coming on back home. What I'm saying, right, I'm not a live big dog. You know how everybody put rumors out there, but ain't

nobody talk to y'all. They just brought the goody mom got beef, they broke up. I don't even ask y'all about that stuff. Man? How did it all come back together? Bro? That's what That's what I want to know. How did it all come back together? The jug is called one day to get call you and say, hey man, we're gonna get this cracking tvo call somebody. How did that go down? Well, big bro, I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm

gonna contell you on to say we stayed in constant communication. Um. A lot of people don't know the true historyal account, but we our history dates back post dates before music. Me and Timo grew up. We went to elementary school together. Wa we went to nursery school together, Temos, about three years older than me. So those three gentlemen there, gift

and people sus on that right there. Many graduated with my older sister, you know what I'm saying that Let's say me and under three thousand we went to elementary school together. So we've known each other literally all of our lives, you know what I'm saying. So, um, it wasn't easy for us to stay be connected. And like you know, it's aboutther love, a lot of respect, a lot of admiration, and I mean like and you know, no matter what we accomplished individual and that we remained teachable,

you know what I'm saying. And so there's humility humility there. And you know we got Elmers, we got o g s and man like I think that's a I think that's a structure that's lacking for the younger generation. But HA them up. You know, like I going to get in a possession and I know I have sold you up for the set. And that's what you know, I mean, like,

that's that's what I do. I mean mhm. So you know, um, we had we had we had differences because we're men, and one thing can default another, you know, because you can't do two things at once, you know, uh what uh you know, you can't be two much at one time. So if my ambition was taken me here and there was a collective opportunity that that got defaulted, Yeah, that's there's friction, I mean, and that's that's frustration in that.

But that's circumstantial. That's not personal, and it's definitely not malicious or or intentional, you know, in any kind of way. You know what I'm saying. So we ain't never get eva when you got talk on the bullshit I'm saying, like, because everything I got out in the world, I definitely tried to share to the best of my ability. And the brother and the brothers can can't can't confirm that what I'm saying. So you know, we were men that

we artists. We got our own little egos, got our own little entilements, we got our own little you know, um ideas of what I think should go. We just and it's difficult. It's even difficult to do because there are no more for man groups like this man we're the lands going up left, I think true, exactly, you know, what I'm saying. So it takes time to take it, take sacrifice and take and trust in the process. Man, But you know we're here, man, We're here. Man. You

know I'm gona talking to ship yall today here. Man. It's it's just lovely that, like I'm saying, you know, coming from the era that I come from and y'all being a part of that, that we can show motherfucker's that we uh, you know that we can still stick together as grown men. And like you said, you know, you're a man, You're a man. You're gonna always have a stand ground and stand your ground and a point

your own point of view. But you know, as brothers you're able to mend fences and ship and for the culture of you know, the the hip hop groups and and that longevity. You know, it's good to see y'all, you know, put out this rack. Just the fans not gonna fans, not gonna let you get away with it, you feel what I'm saying. So it's like, damn, man, every time walking out my career, the first thing I see somebody that that recognized me. But man, y'all stilled

the music. Man, when you're gonna put another another album, um My love, I might see a lot of my favorite man, give my love, give a lot of Timo. So you know what IM saying. You get that pressure from your face and you'd be like, damn ship, you know that, What the funk I do? You right? Man? You're right? So you know what I'm saying. I guess is we get that ship the same at the same time, and then it's like, man, just get's like riding the

bike again. Man, we know, I mean just for some reason, like you were saying, Justice League, you know we got theamn that the phone rings, we got Damn it's time for y'all. Got them boy acting up? You know what I mean, Like like the bats didn't go more. We're like, thank the kind of got them too up. You know what I'm saying. We got you, We do ship and we will do ship. Man, it's twenty four hours in the day. They're trying to speak for eight hours, you

know what I'm talking about. Then we got the rest of them. I was to do, what the funk we gotta do? Then we look up. They gotta got them z Ma Sima got there. Hey, it's kind of got them. Hit the lab man it's trying to got time to get down on their Plus this was our twenty fifth year anniversar was soul Fool, the first album that we ever put out. You know, I'm time ah, I will organized doors and motherfucker was giving us out flowers. You know what I'm saying, Like, we're like, damn, man, let's

put another record together. Man, that ship would be that it would be great for our fans. Man, and we got being back up with organized nors. Man, they got in them and that ship was just Man, that ship was glorious. Man, that she was magnificent. Bro. It felt like old times man back in a dozen, back in ninety four ninety five. Man, So we couldn't recreate a soul ful we could damn there get close to it man with this survival kid man, because ye bro, that's

how cool nall say, big big still Yeah. A lot of real niggas kept me real to this kid, and they could be like, man, yeah, man, we like the stagger ship. Bro, Man, what's up with You're gonna always get that ship? Like I like that ship. That ship is cool. But when you're getting back on that good my ship, my nigger exactly, I can do a lot, and I've done a lot, but I cannot do what what I what what good at might do alone? So I'm not home. If we got together, that's right, all right.

It's a real ship man. And in fact, man, like you said, y'all got history together. Y'all dudes his brothers. Man, Yeah, you got that history. It overcomes a lot of stuff, and you like about it. Bro. On this show, we're gonna do the shot jock ship. You know what I'm saying. It's a real conversation, you know, as men, right, the thing I love about as black men, y'all came back together man and handle bi business man. It would never know. I ain't never see y'all out there taking shots at

each other. I had never hit none of the bullshit and the Shenanigans. It was just back to the I'm like, oh man, good mind, no ship it is. You know what I'm saying. It's cracking, man, And I loved it, man, and I definitely man. What I'm gonna do, I man, either we gotta come to Atlanta or y'all gotta come out here. Dog. We gotta do this in person. Dog, I gotta meet many, my big bro all the time, man, you know, and I don't want to start cheering up

right now. Man. You know you're talking about the digital age. Uh huh. This ship don't save a lot of niggas lives, man. And it's like, you know you've got stuff like this, like James Man, when we first came up with the concept for the show Man and I saw I'm gonna cry over with a lot of ship, dog. But I was moved to tears because just from their brothers and Sri Man, and like it's crazy because one day I'm on Instagram. You know how you don't check it again.

Box messages. I don't never check that ship. I go in there and Shaq don't send me like five messages. No Mob James, O G Mob James, what's up? You know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn, I tell you she said, Man, nobody will stop doing. You know, Shack sends me a video James with you baby. You know what I'm saying. So that that stuff, Man, it's like, Man, that lets me know right there, man did It's a neat d man for the man. It's a neat out there man for the goody mobs. Man. Because with these

kids crave. They crave knowledge, Dog, don't matter how foolish they act. Sometimes, don't matter how they act, they're looking for guys. Because you gotta remember, dog, a lot of these cats ain't got fathers in the house. And it was different with us. Our daddy might not have been a house, but we had that uncle to the whoop your ass and punch you in your chair. Yeah, yeah, hey, you gotta let them know too. When when he told me we had y'all and we're gonna do y'all today,

I told him bull shit. The nigga sent me a text with some what the old girls saying, yeah, it's real, they want to do the show. I'm I'm like, I'm like this, man. I never thought guys in y'all calibern be sitting there talking and wing with me. This as cat, you know, and it's a it's a privilege to be sitting here talking to your brothers and listen to to y'all story. And you know, he tells me a lot of ship and I'll be like, man, she no, niggas

ain't working with me. They ain't working with us, And here we are, Man, what I'm sitting there talking to your brothers. Man. Oh gee, man, listen, I watched every one of them laying interviews he did. Man, So what what what old? These things just said. That's how I felt too. I felt that since there men, you're talking about broad talking about Bunchy. You know what I'm saying, Like you feel me? So, no, man, it ain't nothing

but a lot of spend what I some ship. Yeah, that those interviews, that serious of interviews actually did was so moving. By the time Gainst the chronicles come about. It makes sense to me because your imagery, your energy, it was. It was captivating, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Man, So we're not gonna hold y'all no more. Man, were gonna put this album man, and like because I'm starting to look against the chronicles. You know, we got a

little fans now and stuff like that. Man, So I'm gonna start against chronicles playlist, man, and we just out there to the world. You know what I mean. We're about to put this o for sure, y'all have to come out. I'm gonna tell you when I come to Lanta, though I don't want to because y'all some real niggas, you know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm saying here right y'all. Hey, I want to pay. We're sucking around again. You know, we we we we cooked every so so I just want to put it out

there next time of the opportunity and impotation. Just just just just gound. I love to man. Maybe man every time, man, just man, whatever we could do, I would, I would be honored. So yeah, let's make it happen. Well. That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the I Heart Appen subscribe to the Gainster Chronicles podcast for Apple users. Find that purple mica on the front screening your phone, subscribe to the show, leave

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