EP 84 RICO ACT and how Casanova 2x might have got caught up

Dick James and Mixed Fields from the streets. Hello, where you act? This is o G Gangster Granny and the Gangster Chronicles Podcast is back in effect. Get ready for some of that G ship. We might welcome everyone to another episode the Gangster Chronicles Podcast. Not with my homeboys. You know, make sure you hit that I heart app, download the I app subscribed to the show. All my iPhone users. Hit that purple MICUs on your phone. You know those lights that you hang up in your backyard,

the purple lights. You know the fly hit him? Is that the flies keep the flies from coming in bees and stuff. The black male is like one of those bees man and the light is the penitentiary system. Well, you gotta look at it like this. It ain't just with with black males, just with everything and everybody. This world is designed is a circle. Everything is repeats itself. All the robberies, murders, everything repeats itself, especially in the neighborhood.

Everything is a cycle, and it just repeats itself. Killings, rape, robbery, homies, fighting homies, homies killing homies. This ship has been going on from the beginning of time. Yeah, a week at our I guess second rapper man, you know, casting over two times by the FBI man you know, fist saying he's a member of a violent street game, street game rather than um, you know, one of eighteen people charged with drug trafficking and reggaeteer in New York City and upstate.

So it's a lot of stuff going on. And when we got Friends of the show, Grade Katian here tonight detect the grade katiing just here to kind of shie me in on some of this stuff. There's a lot. There's a lot going on. Why these guys keep getting targeted? Man, how are they getting themselves in these situations? You go ahead, go up man. Um. Honestly, Um, I think it's like, once again, it's the product of the environment and it's the way we walk or the life that's put ahead

of us whatever. I mean. You know, a lot of us join gangs, you know, feeling that we want to be associated, or we want to protect the neighborhood or whatever. But we tend to forget when we turn or we try to turn into regular men. The pitfalls of gang banging kind of follows us, you know, everywhere we go. And that's your face of James. It's a lot of them. There's a lot of niggas who still want to be associated. Yeah, but but if you make it out of the neighborhood.

Everybody said they want to make it out the neighborhood, and everybody said they want to be able to take care of their kids and their mama's. Let's get their mama's out the hood. But our biggest problem is going back to the hood too, because we want the homies to say, all you're looking out for us, or that's the big homie, or is this and that if you make it out the hood, you get out the hood. I think every man that that that that walked this life, should have their own way of trying to get out,

you know what I'm saying. And if you get out and the homies ain't there to say, man, you did that. You know what I'm saying, We're proud of you are the motherfucker, don't come to the hood no more. You see the difference. They main't your friends. So we gotta understand who's our friends and who's not. I mean, if the homies want to see me doing good and better, they're gonna tell me not to come around there no more. Man, you're doing good. Don't funk with these dudes and this

and that, which I get a lot of that. I get a lot of that. But you know, we we we we go back to the hood and want to help somebody, help the homies, and then we we want the hood to shine. And the whole time you're trying to make the hood shine, you're digging. You're you're digging a dish for yourself, because sooner or later, somebody out of that crowd is gonna say, after he get busted, where y'all get this, how y'all hood comes from here

to there? The homies? Now you in jail because you help the homies, and you know, it's different ways to help the homies. One one way to help the homies is getting the jit jobs. You know what I'm saying, If if if they want to get up the ass that do a ninety five, put money in the neighborhood where they can come and go to work, put on uniform and make money the legit way. But no, everybody feeled it doping and and the pistols ain't doing them becausing a bigger problem than we had before. So it's

it's different ways to do that. You know what they're saying is um you know what it was an indictment that was unsealed on Tuesday name in eight teams expected gang members who have been charged with racketeering, murdering, narcotics, firearms,

and other fraud offenses. You know, as in the indictment, they you know, a legend that he was a member of the Guerrilla Stone gang, violence, trafficing, narcotics, and even engaged in fraud by exploiting benefits programs, you know them cards that everybody had running around when it was getting there getting a little you know, bring it off of and now that everybody you know, catching cases behind that silly ship, I think, UM, when you start looking at

and I'm sure Greg can probably attest to this, UM, when you start looking at served dudes as far as game members, UM, that stretch that line of of you know, broken laws, you can attach to a ship. I mean because let's face a lot of niggas from the neighborhoods, the dry bys and killed and all that type of ship.

So to attest all that bullshit, I'm pretty sure that when they start looking at certain motherfucker's, if you want to bring up Rico as you know what I'm saying, They're just gonna look at the long heathline of history of the neighborhood. You get me like, oh, yeah, they've been killing since the seventies and so and soul soul drugs and we know he sold and he was big

time and these motherfucker's over here. So I'll just look at it as when you go, yeah, we can attach Rico to a lot of motherfucker's if they game members, if they neighborhoods have been known to being some of that old tory, your ship. Absolutely. But let me ask you this, and this is a question like UM for YouTube gride I guess would be for you. Um, you have a guy he's named in this reco indictment. Let's say he just a member of the game and they

had sometimes you know, you've got members of games. Some of them got jobs, some of them are selling dope, something got everybody not active. Let's say he's like a member of this game. He may go around and kick it here and there, hang out with him, at him coming to the club, with him, going videos, but he's doing his rap thing. Could he possibly have been named in that reco active they hadn't caught him in doing it the wrong? No, No, that's not the way RICO works.

So you've got things that like you have things you've heard of like gang injunctions where they'll target a gag and they're doing a junction where they just put a lot of you know, energy into um even minor crimes, but with racketeering it's a completely different. Things. You have to have predicate acts, and every charge in RICO has to have or predicate act, and there's only so many predicate acts. Some some crimes don't qualify as predict cad acts.

But things like you know, obviously um extortion, money laundering, murder um, using public utilities to commit crimes, you know, talking on the phone, you're making boat deals, that type of ship. All those things blend in because Rico was actually originally designed to go after the mob right back in the day. And then they started in a late night probably the late eighties, early nineties, they started to doing a gangs, Mexican gangs, Black gangs, motorcycle clubs. And

they're like, man, Rico works just as effectively here. And but to answer your question, you know, there has to you would have to commit a particular crime that's on a list of crimes that fall under the umbrella of Rico. Okay, he got caught doing something. He got caught something either on the phone or you know, transferring money, anything like that would have qualified and means, and it's disattributed to because at this point they're already investigating the game. Absolutely. Yeah.

It all starts out with a proposal to do a racketeering act on a group of people. How long do they sit on a case like that, I don't I don't know what do they watch? They could be from a day or year. They were doing a racketearing act on Death Row from late nineties three to ninety four, all the way on the stuff till and just sitting back and taking taking notes and just watching and watching

connecting dots. So they can go for years. And what another kind of you know, not disturbing, but another kind of concerning thing about it is there can be a long stretch of time between crimes. That's what I'm saying. It's like, let's say this guy, hypothetically, six years ago, he gets another dude in the neighborhood. You know, he's probably rhymes on the side or whatever, but he get his break, Um tax Stone start messing with him. Did he get you know, picked up by rock Nation. So

now he changed his life. He's starting to do shows and get show money. You know, you tend to move out to the neighborhood when you start getting a little somebody, you know, you upgrade. You can't stay in the same spot, you know. So you're telling me that this could have been him. Dude call him on the phone like, man, I need a ah some some um. What's that they smoke out there? Haze? I need some haze, you know what I mean? And he go serve his homeboy and

eph weed. But he just happened to be listened to because he's part of this whole thing. Now that he's missed a big time rapp and they don't give a say, well, this dude, your soul's weed. They probably want him now because you're bigger. Yeah, I'm saying because that makes the case look juicier. Well, that's what I'm saying. So they could paint him as this dude that's funneling all this dope and money for this, and that they really try

to throw motherfucker's in the grease, don't they. Well that to the whole idea is to get as much leverage as you can so that when you collect all of these people, you have so much leverage on them all because they're threatened with this idea of racketeering enhanced crimes. And now you're like, oh, ship, all I did was this what you per seen as a minor thing. But now you're looking at a lot of exposure and that's

gonna force you to cooperate. Plus oh so plus, if they get him, he probably got a little bit more going on than the other cats that's in the indictment with him, So they probably could grab him just in hopes that he like man I got a career going on and all this ship happening. Man, Oh, it's gonna be easy to flip him. You don't want to lose the ship. But would he throw him with this regal wacons? You see, he's on the run. Now, if you were

advising him, would you tell him to turn himself in him? Yeah, you can only run so far. He's gonna get caught. And when it comes. Now, when he gets caught, obviously that's gonna work against him because it's gonna show when he goes to his his here may maybe you're just trying to figure it out right now. Yeah, that's I think he's getting together to get the lawyer together, you know what I'm saying, seeing what is the actual charges that they're trying to bring against him? You know what

I'm saying. So you can probably you can probably say that's happening too, because I wouldn't. That wouldn't be a smart move. Yeah, because this guy, you know, casting is he's been in prison before. I mean, he's a he's a street he's a street catch soon so he know he know how to play it. You know, he's he's uh, you know, got the reputation of being somebody that's authentic

and official, you know what I'm saying. I mean, he still was associated to his neighborhood, no telling what his plans were, you know what I'm saying, because he was getting you know, he rap career, was being a little successful. You know, he was up there. My man was moving units and all that ship videos and ship and all that. So, um, we would just hope that he would be making the decision to just let me get my ship in order

before I have to go do it. That's what's going down. Yeah, I just don't, like I said, it seemed like it's just would you say, Greg, you've being from law enforcement, actually law enforcement, do you think that this whole system is just designs? May be asking a rhetorical question, Um, is it designed for certain people to fail? I don't know. I think you get you know, people, as you guys have alluded to. You know, you get caught up in it.

Sometimes you're caught up and you you don't need to know how deep you're in it until all of a sudden you get hit with a you know, you know, somebody's kicking in your door and you realize, like, what the fuck? Two years ago I was on the phone and you know, selling a couple of pounds of weed. The next thing you know, I'm wrapped up in this racketeerian thing. And you know, so I think a lot of people just don't realize, um, how uh you know, precarious it can be. And and and then we gotta

look at it. When we out there committing our crimes, are doing what we do to get our money. We don't we're not paying attention to the consequences. Who might be who and we're doing it. So at the end of the day, when the when the ship happens, we already know we We were in the thick of the ship.

So I don't think it's a trap. I think we put ourselves into travel, you know what I'm saying, because you they're not just coming out there okay today, We're gonna set whoop whoop and get them and and make them by the dope from us. You know what I'm saying. I think we were already out there in the streets doing what we're doing. So we a lot of this ship that we do is on us, and we gotta be accountable for the ship we do. You know what

I'm saying. It's some of us has got all away with a lot of ship, and I'm sitting here and I can honestly testify to that. And maybe I got away with a lot of ship because certain things in the hood I didn't like, or do you know what I'm saying? I was a straight fucking gang banger. I didn't I didn't even want to. And I couldn't see my self snatching purses from what the wind that wasn't game banging. I didn't see myself braving a female that

wasn't gag banging. My whole life was the opposite society. This is what I thought it was supposed to be, you know what I'm saying. So any time I got trapped and caught into that, I didn't have a choice but to sit in jail and go to court behind this ship. Whether whether I win, lost or did some time or whatever, it was my actions the consequences. It's me, really what I'm trying to say. And that's for all of us across the board. You know what I'm saying.

We out to know him, we're doing rome, But at the end of the day, why are we complaining about how we get down? And I put myself in that same trick back as everybody out there doing what they're doing and get caught up and ship like this. You know what I'm saying, I had a choice to make, Like with death Row, I had a choice to either rock and roll with the dumb ship. Y'all going over there and do your thing. I'm gonna go over here. I'm gonna go get the shop. I ain't got time

for that. I ain't going against the grain. I ain't doing this other dumb ship. It just wasn't me and and those cats that felt the same way I felt. We all got choices every everything we do. Every time I put my pants on and put my band down in my pocket, I knew inside and I knew when I put my pistol on the hill it was I might run into gangs and Jackson, I might run into sos. You know what I'm saying. I'm a day out there, and Lingwood was out there deep. But I knew the consequences.

But I still had my pistol. Catch me with that motherfucker. I don't don't go outside. So those chances that we took, now getting caught with a pistol, and all I said, I think let's go to jail, said there and deal with it. Yeah, exactly, you know, I'm ship. I'm dealing with the ship fox. Fine terms. I'm just saying, we all have choices. Everything I know, Like you said, it was the choices you knew when you stepped off the porch and you put that that motherfucker pistol on your

head that Lynnwood shares Mike Jack and motherfucker. But that's the chance I'm gonna take. Same with me. I rolled around with a motherfucker three eighty with gonna pop off vic dash that did I know that motherfucking the sheriffs or Compton p d was gonna be rolling through as soon as they see your motherfucker. They don't get a fun I'm a motherfucking eight folk. Cut listen, sh what'sh

the breakdown once you get caught. But now, when you guys were doing that, and you know they're consequences of those that specific action, But what are you thinking in terms of like this is maybe part of a much bigger picture. Well, I just get caught with a pistol, but now I'm wrapped up in some kind of organized crime type of prosecution. Think you don't think like that

thinking about what I thought was. Motherfucker, you better have a heat rolling through these motherfucking streaks or you don't get caught. Just like if I passed, I went out and put in work, and then I give that pistol to the homey. That pistol got something wing, but he ain't knowing he's thinking of homie. Ain't gonna do me like that. Now, a whole lot of us get caught up like that, you know what I'm saying, just because that pistol got some money. Now you're sitting in jail

like God damn it. If I speak on this food, I can't do time in yere. I can't go back to the hood. So you take gotta take that goddamn wrap, you know what I'm saying. And then at the end of the day, motherfucker's ain't taking care of you, none of that ship. But these are the consequences that you take when you get up and you put that pistol in your hand. Are you getting that car and do what you do? Are you out there on the block

selling dope. When we was on the block selling dope, the police used to pull up and and be doing this. Let me here, then let me see and put the step of cup on your edge. That ain't good enough, buddy. We out of here, and and motherfucker's breaking round something get away. Some don't. But being on the block, trying to sell up to what we think is feeding out families or kids are or so I can go get them nice tennis shoes or get the rims from our car.

We ain't thinking about the ship that the people that's consuming them drugs, how the homie mommy is sucked up, but we're still selling it to it. We ain't thinking about none of that. So then we get busted because they've been watching the block. So when they hit the house, we go to jail. The breakdown of that is, Man, I wouldn't in there, and they I was outside and they took me in the house. Oh I was over there,

but I wanted to selling no jobs. Now they've been sitting on your ass for a month, two months, a year. You can't get out of it. That's how the fans do it. They sit back and they make sure they got you. You can't go in and sit out and then not that ship at all. You can't So what that's what what I'm saying is and and I'm I'm using me as any example, so nobody can say. I'm saying they the choices I made got me where I went. The choices I made something, the pritison, the choices I

made hurt a whole lot of people. You know what I'm saying, The choices I made hurt my mom's. You know what I'm saying is everybody got to be accountable for self. If we don't understand self and and don't understand what the we're doing in the consequences of how we do it, then we're gonna talk about this dude, death road, diggie. We're gonna talk about all these kids that get caught up, that gets money at a certain point in their life and then still want to go

back to the bullshit. You make it. You made it, Yeah, you don't have to come back. And that's the disturbing thing about this to me is it seems like it's always the rappers man, not wonderful times. And I feel conflicted.

We're feeling this way because you know, I work in the music and this tree, and you know I love against the rap music like everybody else, But I always saw its entertainment, and I think maybe it's part I knew a lot of the artists and I was like, man, he's really a nice dude, but he can just you know, you knew how to talk about the honies around them real good. Don't necessarily mean you're phonny, but he knew how to convey what was going on in this community,

you know what I mean? Exactly? Do you think they're purposely and this may be me reaching or whatever. I'm kind of a conspiracy theorist. Um do you think that it was because it seems like black music rap music just kind of start And I ain't gonna say because the gangster rap, because it was still even the stuff when they was talking about, you know, public gating, he was gangster rapp if you think about it, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly, So it wasn't just like

West Coast gangster rap. But did you notice it was a difference between you always had substance in your music, and it was always a reality, you know, it was always based in reality. On some songs you got the worst the end of the stick, right, But you had these dudes that was just so over the top of the banging man that got geographic for a minute. Remember that period in Games to Rap where it just got crazy for a minute. Um, and it's like the positive

music just went way left right. Do you ever think it's like possible they just constructed all that ship man to flood us with this imagery. The artists are their labels, just like I'm talking about the labels man, and it may be kind of going left field, right, just think about this label is gonna explore what they can explore a lot of those guys, like people don't know interscope is no but listen, I know, but listen, James, what I'm saying, let me finish, let me let me land.

You look at General Electric. They own stock and prisons, right, they own prisons. They own privately owned prisons. Now they actually own inn Scope records, you know n Scope records, they own them too. If they own prisons, would it be who them? Really? They out this thing and they have a motherfucker's sing about kom By y'all and having

Will Smith making songs and all these happens. The lucky motherfucker's if they can make money off rappers, football players, uh, black entertainers, if they can make money off of basketball players. What's the difference they see a profit and merchandise. And black people as well as others have skills. And it's unfortunate that we don't own our own ship to to

put our ship out there, like like death Rowing. Just say, if Chill would have just been one businessman, have been a businessman, death Row would have been up here by now you know what I'm saying. But everybody want to play Bugsy Malone at a certain point in their life. Everybody want to be um see known or whatever. But just like you can't blame Priority Records for me making a record and going back and they put it out there.

But it's me doing it this meet for trying to be something I ain't and then getting out there acting like I'm a real thug. Sooner later you get tested, you find out chaining the thug. Next thing you gotta do to prove you see, I see and I get all that. And it's not me necessarily blaming Priority Records or no record company. Right, But these people are invested into the prison industrial complex. They own private prisons, and

they'll let you put this album out there. If you was talking about just straight mayhem killing them yes, but check this out. There have been incidents where people have said stuff that that that has been necessarily violent nature, but it went against the grain. They get their albums pulled off the shelf. So it seems like they stand for certain things and let other ship pass because I'm not gonna let you. I'm not gonna let you turn around and say some ship like like some ship that

we go against on our platform. That's when we're gonna

motherfucker nip you in the bud. We're gonna kill your contract, We're gonna shelve your project, whatever you because at the end of the day, we, like James said, we don't own ship, okay, And a motherfucker dangler contracting your motherfucking face for a million dollars you think of broakeass motherfucker from Compton or Lone Beach is gonna sit down and be like m m no. They're gonna be like, well you want me to sign, give me my check, and they're gonna exploit it and they're gonna go invest in

prisons and whoever they want to as president and all that motherfucking ship, and it don't matter to them. We we look at numbers. It's a profit to us. So if you want to go rap about shooting up the nigga down the street and pulling the drive by and all that, and then I'm checking numbers and I'm going, motherfucker want to buy that ship? Why not? Shouldn't I have a piece of it? Just like you? Just man, mother funer going to prisons every day? Right, why the

fund should not get a piece of that. They're going to prison every day. Who else is gonna do it? You? Right? That's why the people start building private prisons. Fuck that. Let me you did it on that game, y'all sending water a ton of thousand niggas the prison a year. I need to get in on that game. It's so smart. Profit. There's a lot of money in that. The county jail. There's a lot of money, uh housing innation, the county jail,

especially the story. You know what I'm saying. The prices of the noodles and all that shop to shop shop to you, no more like a bitch used to send you a packet. You had to go through that something like this billion floyd the fucking making money and then fucking rap record and you gotta buy your cup of noodles from the nigger who puts you in jail. I for kind of ship is there? My bitch can't even send me no draws or socks, no more. I gotta

buy them straight from the motherfucker who housing me. And you know, I don't know for beating put it out there, but I heard, no, that's some cold And I'm sitting there thinking about myself, like, man, I know, putting something like no, you can't, you girl, go to the swap me and get your socks for five ninety nine. Stay right, here's no more. You gotta's people putting fifty and sty fine college for for what six hours? We goddamn right. I used to call my mom gonna collect like a motherfucker.

Why don't fucking build up? So I ain't don't know brand they're making money off of it? Why not? I mean, we ain't doing it. Hell no. The only thing we do what it's going to jail. We're spending the money, give me a contract and makes some fucking soaps and ship with all that ship, it all falls down on us. Let us stop bitching and complaining about how our lives are. My life was the way it was because I chose it that way. I didn't see it no other way.

So I lived the way I thought was best for me and that and it got me through, you know, understanding a lot of ship. But then as I got older, damn, I realized what the funk am I doing, stitting on this fucking corner with the same old cats name, doing ship. And then when when I lost my brother, man, you're doing all of this for nothing. All of this ship is for nothing. Everything that I believed in was for nothing.

And we gotta start thinking like that at a younger age, because you the only thing we're gonna do is get you. I've been shot four times, they got them still here, but I did more than than than my share. So for your brother to lose your brother represent the same ship, and then to to lose his life and the same ship, Fuck you niggas. When you'll talk about loyal to you fucking niggas, when you talk about friendship, it's no good. Everything I did was for nothing, for nothing, so you

gotta look at it like that. But it was my choice to live the way I did the way it was. But I had a choice to make. Either I give it to the system or take my kids and start doing my thing and be there for my grandkids. If I'm not there for my grandkids, how can I protect my family doing life in prison. It's a waste of time. So I had to make a choice, and we all got to make choices right now. If if I'm making out of the hood and no need to go back, I don't have a reason to go back. It's certain

cats over there that I deal with. Those are the ones I'm looking at. You can't take two hundred niggas from the neighborhood and think they all won't be right. You put them in your house, They're gonna steal from you. Because everybody is looking for that moment. They ain't looking for for longevity life. They're looking for that moment. And that's what's happening with all of these wrapper cats and

all of these cats out here today. They yet to understand what life is about, and they think this trick bag that we're in, they think this is the only way. And then when you get people such as myself trying to tell them that this is not the only way. It's we have options. So let's stop blaming other motherfucking people. Let's stop saying the white people holding me down. I'm not a motherfucking slave. I can do what I wanna do. I get up eating ship. I'm a slave in prison.

I want the programming, and motherfucker, you ain't got a choice. Are You're gonna stay in a in a motherfucking hole. You're gonna stay in the sale. So at some point you gotta learn how to program and that motherfucker, so learn how to do it here on the streets. Learn Half of us don't even have kids. The homies just going to prison, back and forth, back and forth, don't even have families, don't have kids, don't have grandkids. And then they come home and ship doesn't change. They don't

know how to use God damn should mean Facebook? How do you do that? Like me? I don't do all that money and ship. I'd rather stay plain and simple where I understand it. When you know, cats come home thinking that you're in the program, but you can't because it's hard to get out of prison that they're doing fourteen years, seventeen years. We don't coming home to the system was already against you because you can't get a

job and work. Now they're changing that. At first, you can't come home and go straight to work and live like a citizen. So it's gonna keep you down. So yeah, the system has a lot to do with us repeating history, going back to prison. Uh, I gotta go back to the block. It sell dope because every nney days they fired me because they my record pop up and they

fire me. This is what was happening to me. So you can't do security work because as soon as they find out that noneing, they check, Oh you gotta go. You you fail to tell us this and on your application, and if you're honest, they don't call you back. So yeah, we got a lot of that. We have to come back to the hood. We have to go back to the block. And then you got to catch that that that make it and make their way out thinking they're

doing good by putting dope and guns in the hood. No, open up something positive and then tell homies to come work and that and and if you want to work and get the funk out of the streets, if he want to work for his money, because you ain't gonna sunk off no check money like you funk off drug money. You're you're gonna really, you're gonna really spend it the

right way and then it gives you something. It gives you something here saying I've worked for this, you know what I'm saying, So I ain't feeling squander it off on on the bs or kicking it with the homies and making sure everybody getting loaded. You're gonna take your money and you're gonna you're gonna do what you gotta do with it. But that drug free money, you splash that ship. So if if any rapper out there today made it and want to go back to the hood and say he did good by the hood, open up

a business. If it's if it's gardening and you buy two vans and put all the equipment you need to cut grass, that's a business. Everybody got along. And if you got these guys out here working and they're making their money, don't be cheap with them and make them seem they we're working for SETI five dollars a week. I ain't gonna work for this food nor more. Don't do your people like that. You gotta be one hunting with your people, and you're only giving them that so

they can have stability. Now now I feel different by myself. I don't ain't gonna going any with the only thing I gotta go to work. And that's how we changed that ship. That's how we stopped all of this reco ship. That's how we stopped the dumb ship. You ain't gotta put yourself and that life no more. Yeah. And the thing about this reco ship that I don't like, the Greg pointed out, there's some ship you could have did eight years ago. Yeah, especially if they leave in the

case and and and they steadily monitored you. Like I said, if they building the case, you couldn't did some ship five years ago. But which is true, because like I said, you gotta attest to the something to the ship. I mean, I guess it's you know, uh, when you when you're a young man, you're coming up, you join the gang or whatever. You try to prove yourself or want to be alone because everybody you go to school with, you know, elementary, the grade school, you're hanging out, you know that make

sure you want to just join it. I started banging because you know, I didn't have my father in the house type of ship, you know, and I went to school with niggas. We hung every day. You know. One of the homies got jumped. I felt like we all had to be a part of this, this system that was gang banging. You know, I didn't go out to to to sell the drugs or do that type of ship. All I gave a funk about was banging for the neighborhood.

So as I grew and I started making something positive, saying, Okay, I'm gonna be this rapper, I'm gonna tell stories about what I've been through, what I saw in the neighborhood, and you start getting a positive aspect. But did I still want to go back to the neighborhood. Yeah? I did. I still wanted to even though I'm living fucking an hour away and I'm driving different cars and living in

a different house. I wanted to go to Compton every day and hanging the neighborhood because it was something that I wanted to show niggas that I didn't I wasn't an outsider so to speak. I don't look at myself as being somebody different. But that's that's what could have got you killed, because exactly if she ate Kent. No, it's on everybody's mind. Every time you go to the hood. You might have that one cat that said man that

came doing it for me. I'm killing my food all day and not the chicken pushots at you are, and the homies getting mad, the homies retaliate and get rid of him. But ain't thenosous like because he went back to the hood, no one. He ain't supposed to be in the hood hanging out like that, which was true, And there was a lesson that I had to learn, and somebody like yourself or O G had to tell me like, don't bring your ass over here no more, period, and don't come over here no more. And I was

in the nutshell that was just it. You still want to be associated because Ship, now you're just just two months ago we was all sitting in the living room together trying to scrape up money for motherfucking Thunderburton cool aid and filed our sacks and ship, you get me. And now six months later, I'm a movie screens and records and gold plaques and all that ship. And I'm still wanting to because I'm thinking that I don't know different than the motherfucker who was here six months ago.

I'm no different, but it's the perception of it, straight up. Yeah, I just think, man, that the system is kind of because we do a lot of stuff. I'm with that, I'm with self accountability and everything, but it's just really tripping me out, man, that you really can't make no mistakes, no more that they can. Really you can. You can make mistakes, but you got to know how to make the mistakes. And sometimes the mistakes are consequences exactly. But but check this out. We know when we go to jail,

if you say something, they write that ship down. Ain't no computer. They don't send the motherfucker computer down right there and and just make it look at you. And then now they got all this bullshit. If you're sitting there talking, they're gonna write that ship down. But they write it down the way they want to write it down, the way they hear now, and this ship goes to a goddamn d A, and the d A say, okay, well, it's kind of like admitting that we got a caze here.

You see what I'm saying is, how did the piencil work when the police pull us over in the car? Is how to picil work? How you write that chicket? Why I pulled him over? How fast you was going? A whole not so if you learn how compare attention to what's going on. You know, they the dictators, So you gotta be a certain kind of way. You be a dick. You're going to jail. Are they gonna take your car? If you're on the yes, sir, for just the ten fifteen minutes you you you encountered you right

there with them. It all depends on how you act. Man. If you act like assh, they're gonna treat you like ass So if you say yes, sir, right, I didn't know what you know what I'm saying, they really ain't tripping off you because okay, this ain't that bad. Give you a break, you know what I'm saying. But we gotta learn how to deal with the system. You gotta play the game pretty much the way the game comes

to you. You gotta learn how to play. If you don't understand it, you shouldn't be out in the motherfucking streets committing crimes. If you don't understand that ship a drive by, a drive by, the police is in the motherfucking car and looking for that fast car that speeding by the driving records is trying to get the away from the scene. Do five do the regular speeding every time they drive past you, nigs dug down, they're gonna they're gonna drop past you, not trying to drop the change.

If they see a woman in the motherfucker's car, they're gonna really keep going. So you gotta learn how to play the goddamn game. I'm serious, man, Yeah, I mean you gotta. If you don't understand what you're doing, you're surrounded. Man. This is how you phone off and a lot of cats get called slipping. Yeah there was James McDonald wisdom. Hope you'll be taking notes so great, man. I don't like to say conspiracy, man, because I'm all for accountability. Man.

I just think some of these situations are designed for certain people to fail. Man, there's just designed for certain people to fail. Because my kids, all of our kids grew up a different than we did, you know what

I mean, they were way different. I took mind to the suburbs, raising the suburbs, being active, made sure I was active in their life, you know, sports, everything else, you know, like that over the sun grade played from college, got another sign that's a semester away from getting his bactors already, then two semesters away, and then I got a sixteen year old daughter that got her own business. So I raised these kids just way different than I was.

I told him. You know, my pops was telling me ship. You know what I mean. You know we got that. Sometimes they don't no better, But I just raised my kids way different. Man. This um, but you've got the guy on the other side of the tracks, right, This dude is from father in jail. Mother got to go to works lea stand with his grandma. She taking care of other grand kids too, so she really watching them. He wind up growing up around and he grew up and that's all he knew. It's like he'd been dealt

the bad here the beginning. But eventually he gets older and change his life, playing basketball, rapp and doing whatever it else you do. And the motherfucker comes back and say, you know what, back when you wasn't ship and didn't have it. You know what I'm saying, didn't have together, don't have opportunities, we go to funk all the good ships you did. We're going back here and go pump your ass because of that. That's what it sounds like to me. Do you think there's any way we can

redefine these laws? Man and make him a little bit. Let's broad Well, they're they're always challenged, you know, these because oftentimes the government does overreach, and that's for a reason. Doesn't make it right that they do overreach. You know.

One of the reasons that you overreach is because you want to mitigate going to trial, So you charge somebody with something where you know he's gonna plead down and everybody avoids trial, and just you know, it's just the system is designed to operate more efficiently that way, UM and not saying it's right or wrong with this is just the way it is. So I don't you know but that these laws are always being challenged and sometimes

successfully and sometimes unsuccessfully. So there, you know, you constantly have groups that will say, hey, we just think that this particular approach to doing things is wrong. It's challenged. Sometimes you get ahead, sometimes you don't make any progress at all. But you know, the system is what the system is, and it it has to have these checks and balances, and obviously it always needs to be reevaluated to see if it can be improved. But I actually

think it is usually improving. Then, you know, I think that again, like I think that the UM the way it's done today is better than the way it was done twenty years ago, and hopefully in twenty years from now, it's going to be even better than it is today. So it's time. Time just changes ship. So what guesses will always be some kind of collateral damas. That's kind of what you're saying. Yeah, I think so. I mean

the system is organic. I don't know that it's necessarily like designed to the like what you might be suggesting. I think it's just organic. It's all these different components colliding and and people get hurt collaterally in those collisions, you know, but everybody, you know, if there is all kinds, if everybody is either community based or individually based, just holding each other accountable and holding each other up, most

certainly that's going to improve the sentence. But then the system actually fail you too, because they know it's been some cases where they know you're not guilty, but just because it's election time, they booked your as. They give you all this time, They give you more time than

they would give another for for marijuana. For half of these, I know, a lot of cash have morked out of that motherfucker with five years for murders, I agree that this system is very arbitrary, that it's not consistent across the board, and so that that is absolutely something that's it's you've seen that for a long time. Right, certain ship is designed. I feel certain mass are designed because they attract. And then it's it's gold. Because if if a white boy you were murdered, he got money, he's

gonna beat that ship. But white boy murder, there's broke, you're going to prison. If that applies to I see, that's right. I don't. I don't necessarily necessarily draw the race distinction, but I definitely drive No, I'm talking about white a white If a white guy that's broke, and that's why they say black or white white. If if what they call poor trash white guy but commit a murder,

he's going to jail for that murder. But if a white guy with money and that that means he could he could buy these lawyers and and spend all of this money. If he's spend a lot of money, you gotta be a chance of getting out of That applies to everybody, you know what doesn't do. If you have money and you can provide that first rate defense, then you're most likely going to get you come out. And that's another That's another thing that I think is is disturbing.

It's disturbing that you can be easily guilty and that yet buy your freedom. Right. Well, I think I think everything is designed. Everything I watched Western movies, Every crime that that's committed today was committed in the eighteen hundreds, every crime, bank robberies, no cart, no horse steve. In these days, it's still in horse power. But I think, I think, you know, everybody's just got to really look at life for what it is and where you want to be. Do you want to exist in life or

do you want to be a partner life? You want to I don't want to just exist. I want to be a part of life, and I want to be able to everything that that that I learned from my grandpather. I'm trying to give it to my grandson, everything that I took from my father. My grandson and never see none of that. He ain't gonna have no part of that. And that's that's me knowing what's right, and that's knowing me knowing what's wrong and applying it and given And this is how I stopped him from want to be

a met. This stops my grandson from want to be like his cus to cycling because you know, it breaks it and that's all we all we gotta do is apply itself, you know what I'm saying, Because we don't didn't wrong, I didn't did a lot of people. We've we've learned how to disassociate from what we thought was everything to growing up and figuring out this is what's everything. He family struck your and being able to show that you are a better person than the person that you

thought fucked you up. You give me. So that's just in the nutshell for you and your kind of like E did did you you and pursued opportunities opposed to have an opportunity presented to you. Is that I started. I started rapping because I fell in love with rapping because I took a trip to Mississippi and was introduced to rap music. So when I came back, it kind of intrigued me because I was always one of the motherfucking kids at school who was intrigued with the other

side of life. Even though I game bang, I used to watch soul Train. Even though I game bang, I used to read books and I just still go to school and get grades, even though I was banging like a motherfucker. I just had a MoMA at home who was from Gulfport, Mississippi, and with wood the ship out of my ass with a switch and the funding yall, and I want to give with this claimer too. If y'all heard some candy in the background, don't send me

no look funked up as in boxes stuff. He didn't candy on the show that was and that wasn't candy. I got pleased with that ship, and I told you I wanted you to see this. This is the guy that that uh I went to Texas and have his brother, And this is why I said I do this just read. You ain't got to share it. If you don't want to, I'm gonna share. I'm gonna lead a brother's name out though for his privacy. Okay, what's up, big James, This is down, Dallas. I just wanted to reach out while

I hacked you on my mind. I feel like you made all the difference with my brother. He seems to be on the up and we are closer than we've been in damn near a decade. Things changed for the better after you came in the picture, So I want to check in and make sure you're straight. I know from personal experience that the go to person most of the time don't have have nobody to go to. I'm here for you. And if it's if it's my means I got you straight up, it's probably millions out there

like my brother needs you. So whatever it takes to get you through the day, you got meet and say support. Get back to me when you can. That's the cold stuff. Send it to you yesterday. And and what happened was it made me feel like what I'm doing is right just talking to people. No, that's just what I am. Somebody will I thought I hit something, but not bad. So so everything that we talked about, everything that we say, I took that the Dallas and I'm talking to him.

I'm not talking at him. I'm talking to him, and I'm telling me, you know what's right and what's wrong. If anybody knew what's right and wrong, I do. You know you don't have to be a gang member. You know what I'm saying. You should want better. If you didn't want better, your brother wouldn't be getting at me. So I think it was worth getting in my card and going down at you. This guy. It's been six months, five months, and he's still on the right path. He's

still he's doing good. He he working. Him and his brother is tight now when at first they won't even talk. So I really believe that we can reach each other. You just gotta be willing to listen, and you gotta be ready to change. If we're not ready to change, then we we fall on deaf ears. And if we don't understand that bullshit, then this will be for nothing. Yeah, that's incredible, and I want you to go a little bit more in depth about that story. These were somebody

that's some listeners of the show that reached out. He was he was his brother was a listener, is a listener of the show. And he just hit me one day when I was selling the T shirts and put my number out there. So he called me and I asked me could I I got five minutes? I said, With all the texts and everything I get, I try to answer all of them and I and I take all calls. So, yeah, brother, what what's going on? So

you explained to me about as a brother. So you know, at that time, his brother was going through some you know, some dangerous ship and probably wouldn't have been here. So I said, well, wait, yeah, and give me how that is. So long story short. He gets on the phone and he said, Mom, I don't go by the name, but yeah, games, so what I'm saying here, but what's going on with you? So I'm talking to him for about an hour or so, and and it was a little tears here and there,

and I'm like, okay, bro, but it's all good. But I've been through the same ship you going through. You know what I'm saying. So I didn't have We don't have to react just to get a reaction. So after that, I said, about a month later, the brother called me again. Man he had shootouts and he did, Man, I think I'm gonna lose my brother. So I told him, don't

say no more. Don't tell him I'm coming if I do my show Wednesday and getting on the freeway after we've closed our show me and when he got on the freeway and I went straight out there to him. And when I got out there, I met up with the brother and then we was waiting for his brother Jay to come. So we're sitting back waiting, so they all conjugating and then I walked out to the store and walked up to him. The first thing he was like, God, damn, you did all of this for you come to Texas

for me. You come to Texas for me, man, I come to Texas for your life. I come to Texas to help you. I come to Texas for your brother. Your brother like you. And he gave his brother look started crying and everybody got misty out of I mean, it was like a touchy situation there. And we went and set out in eight and we just we just

like broke bread like like you never had before. And here he is talking to a good dude that he listened to on the ready on the TV, saying, Okay, you say all the right good ship, but here I am in your face telling you all the right good ship. So I'm telling him ship that he had n't done because I've been there. You couldn't have done this without going this way, you know what I'm saying. And after we love Texas, I kind of let him marinade and let him, you know, let the brothers get together and

inform their relationship without me being in a way. I called down then, and how your brother dog? He good man? We're good. Everything great. Okay. So I get this text yesterday and I'm reading it. My sister started crying, like, brother, you really like that's that one you say, That's that one you saved. So it makes me feel good because I know I wouldn't ship it. I can still say it today. I ain't ship I'm just starting. I'm just

breaking the ice, you know what I'm saying. So I got a lot of proven I got a lot of ship to do. But I don't mind because I did a lot of bullshit, But I don't mind picking my way through it and doing this here and helping, you know what I'm saying. So if I can get another one, and another one like me can change you, I can die him all. I'm good. Yes, you know that you're

just giving it back. Man. I think that's really important because I think man like, like you know Greg was saying with the reco Act, he was saying that it's just it's therapist, the most perfect thing we got right now, right despite the shortcomings. Man, I just think that we really got to get um go back to the days of listening to cats like James, and really, if you're listening to what he's telling you. He's telling you how

not to get caught. U. Well, we gotta go. We gotta get to the point where we gotta start loving and instead of hating each other. And we hate each other for the smallest ship. Uh, pinky ring, Go get that, go to work and get it yourself. There's amount of cats out there hate what you got. There's a lot of us out there just envy for the wrong reasons, you know. And if we stopped that boys ship and start congratulating and stop snatching motherfucker's when they're coming up.

I don't give a funk. If you made a million dollars selling dude, I made that, don't come and bringing my house and kill me for it. We gotta learn how to build ourselves. That's a man. That's a man. It wasn't too fifty years old. I realized I was a man, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, we got a lot of guys out here of age like me. We ain't ain't we ain't men. We ain't acting like black men. We all we we we quit

to accuse. Fuck accusing somebody get our did get it and get it the way you you you see you can hold it, you can keep it. Let's not be envious of motherfucker's that's all. That's that's and that's the that's that's better for everybody. You know what I'm saying. You want to be a grown motherfucker, You want to be an adult, you want to show lessons to the youth. Whatever. You just got to learn how to not be envious to the next man and then then fund the color whatever.

It's just we gotta learn to just stop being envious of a nigger who don't got or got more. Period. That's just it the nutshell. Yeah, man, that's if you don't know how to get Yeah, that's it. Get up and get out and get something period. Man. You know what, I guess some ship we would never get to the bottom up. Man. It just seemed just just really strange

to me. Man, But that's another episode. The gains the chronicles do stuff on that, you stuff on that reco or they going right back to it if it is right back, just it really sucks me up that you could do something wrong six years ago and it just so happens these mothersfuck You can kill the motherfucker twenty years ago if they fid down today, y'all asked going to mothers. You know what, the man, what's the easy

soul for this? As you say, okay, depending upon what he's doing now at this stage of the case, depending we do, you can't. You shouldn't be able to go back no more than two years. Ain't gonna do that ship you know they do that sometimes, what the case is or something like that, you give more slapping the motherfucking back. And what if it's if it's what if it's yours and your people that were affected by that?

What if somebody had suffered on your end? Now? Are you willing to let that guy off the hook in two years? Man? You know what? You know that motherfucker gotta go and and and everybody got to think about it. If it don't happen to you, don't matter. But if it happens to you, now I'm affected by but a serious seriousness. When I say only go back two to three years, I'm talking. I ain't talking about murder. I ain't talking about you could kill two people, got youn't

got a grace period. I'm being good now. I changed myself. I've been out of prison for thirty years, thirty one years. If I killed somebody. You don't think they've been leading with me. Okay, well you've been out of prison thirty one years. Yeah, goddamn, they be not said this country, you got a pass. It's all the same thing, man, But there is you know, there's they do. I mean, I get it's different on the charge exactly exactly. This

motherfucker successful. Now he ain't selling drugs on the corner anymore. He's got business because I'm he and all that. So when you're initially started investigation, okay, he's a personal interest right here. But then you see over time you should have to say, okay, raise they do depend on the crime, like their statute of limitations on things. There's certain crimes with robbery that you know after a certain nine years

he can't charge you with it. It's five years ago that even though they still got their way of doing it, like go Jen, you found not guilty of murder, but they find you, uh, they check everything you got because they say, yeah they turned the one just follow a Simvil case on and yeah you had something to do

with the fucking murder. But if I got found not guilty of it, and it's gonna award that because he's the I'm pretty sure that most of them sit up and look like, yeah, this motherfucker done it, but in the criminal case it wasn't found not But you can't take your personal feelings in the courting room. You can't. I believe that my damn self. But it happens nine

nine and ten at the time. You give me, mother fucker walk right in the court and be like, yeah, well he was found not guilty, but we're gonna we feel he had something to do with it. And in a civil case, all they give a funk about is if you can prove or the reasonable doubt that this motherfucker had something to do with it, get a motherfucker's

fifty million. That's how we're gonna break them. We're gonna hurt him like that, fucking because and most of the times when you see cases like that and a motherfucker on some high profile murdership and they get found not guilty, mother fucker's just come back and find a simple case. Sometimes, my fucker to find a civil case before the criminal case, Like just give me the bread and I shut the funk out. Big change, a little, big change, gotta take this trip, man James on his way, Get up, get

up out of here. We got a lot of exciting stuff happening, man. Um, you know, shout out to the folks in Australia that's been hitting us up. Shut up to our people and Dallas we got were about to hit this road the first of the year. Man. Hopefully this um pandemic that we in start to clear up so the stuff can be big, you know, maximize. But we're going to road and now we're looking forward to that man, and and it's just crazy everybody reaching out.

We really appreciate the support we've been getting on the show. Um, it's it's been incredible so far, you know. So they're really inspiring though. Right there, James, that letter you got, that's awesome man. I'm really happy for you. And it made me feel good. Thank you. That's the resonates man. That makes me feel good. And now we're talking to these guys in Texas. I hope we can go to Texas with the guys that we got on the line to go down there and and say for the stop

to this ship. You know what I'm saying, y'all gotta stop just killing each other. And I hope they list so y'all be tuned in on Mondays, we're gonna be talking about it. Um. I hope everybody get on board with that. And and if you want to love each other to save each other, it's act like we can talk to each other and get along with each other and everything will be good. Go subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles if you gotta. If you're out of don't user.

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