EP 143: Will out here slapping fools and Cali cutting the Reparation's check

herd around the world. Will Smith runs up on stage during the oscars and slaps the taste out of Chris Rock's mouth. I think Chris Rock handled like a gene. I think he was very professional dog because I don't know me and Will would have probably been on stage squadding though ain't know, probably to it. Under quote Wheels ass absolutely him walking back to that seat like he was y'alla saw me on his back firing on him.

After I got over the initial snap shot up being just slept and you imagine and my mom shout out to Irene, my mom's down, and she gave you doing her thing. My mom even called me right and she said, you know what, that wasn't a slap son. That was a female dog slap. I see it's a mom. You just said that Chris Rock got big slapt Is that what you're saying? So my seven year old mama said Chris that Chris Rock got big slap. I don't think

it was a bit slap, big bitch. Slapp is backhanded, that's what the back No, anytime, I would have rather nigga come up and steal on me dog and slept. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's always degrading and you know what I mean, emasculating when you win a nigger to slap you. Yeah, that's that's never cool. Somebody slap you like that. Somebody gotta die, Oh yeah, for sure. On the street level. On the street level, for sure, somebody slap you. You

you gotta take their life to justice. Yeah, as glasses put it in proper context, you know, on the street that's just how that that's how they goes. You can't even fade the negative. Walk up and just think he can slap you like you might like whooping right in

real time. But once you get finished whooping you, you might have to you know what you might have to part You gotta really beat the ship out of like a lot I agree with Court because you really got to kill that you got unfortunately, you know what I'm saying. But you know, you know you're still there still okay, Um, But you know, I mean my take on it, bro is um. You know, I mean it was a I guess a ignominious uh moment for the culture, you know what I'm saying. But I think I don't think the

slap was about to slap. To be very honest with you, you know, I think there's several backstories and undercurrents. I think what Will Smith was probably fighting against or slapping was the narrative. I think that you know, he's allowed Jada has allowed um the public, you know, has introduced the public into their bare room, into their affairs, into their relationship, and basically made him the poster child of emasculation. So I think that you know, that slap was really

about the narrative. I think that's what it was. I think Chris Rock was collateral damage. I don't think it was about Chris Rock. I don't think it was about the joke. I think it was about the fact that for the past couple of years Will Smith has been the butt of jokes, you know, him and Jada. Um, he's been the poster child, like I said, for emasculation. So I think that on that very night and that moment,

he was fighting against that. He was like, Okay, y'all think that I'm a punk, pussy bitch push over and y'all just gonna say whatever to me or whatever to my wife. And I think in that split second, that's what that's what we witness. Now. I don't think it's a disreputable moment. I don't think it's something that he can't come back from. But you know, I think that you know, it was what it was. I don't think that we should make it bigger than what it is.

It was too motherfucker's that know each other. Then people know each other personally, they go back their families know each other. Um. I wouldn't have responded like that, you know what I mean. As much as I love my my wife and actually I've done worse and behind disrespect them, my old lady. But in that in that moment, See, I had an O G tail me years ago. You always offer a dude the way out, you know what I'm saying, So you give him a little space to

try to make it right. Walking back before you just you know what I'm saying, just crash out. But I probably would have pulled him to the side and had a conversation with him and you know, and and got some understanding and some straighten and now if he didn't apologize, you know, adequately, with a heart of contrition, if he didn't you know, if he wasn't standing where I needed him to stand, then at that point it would have it would have did what it was gonna do, you

know what I mean. But I don't think the slap was about the joke. I don't think it was about Chris Rock. I think he was he was fighting that narrative. I agree with you because I was just telling Glasses before we got on this podcast. I was telling him, I think that it's about it's a culmination of events that take your place, like you said, over the last few years, you know, and I think you know him and Jada's bedroom antics that has been made publicly. You know,

obviously they are in some kind of relationship. They probably possibly have opened or swinging relationship or whatever it is they choose to do in their bid room and their business. But you have to know, when you were a public figure like that dog. You can expect people to have their opinion. You open yourself up. It's kind of you know, like them millions and billions of dollars that Will Smith is making. They all come with a cost, you know.

Whenever you're making money like that and you give your life to the public, it comes with a cost. We have to expect some blowback on stuff. And I think that Will Smith has always been kind of looked at. It's the nice guy, right, He probably said, you know what, I'm tired of people looking at me like a little bit his motherfucker's Because that's not the first time Will Smith on stone on somebody in public. He popped some little white dude over in Europe at an interview. Some

dude came prying up and kissed him. And I saw that. That's a little different though, o G. I mean, because dude tried to kiss him. It was a little like a little tap. It wasn't like how he did with with Chris Rock, you know. But and he was probably well within his right to do that because dude invaded his personal space and tried to kiss him, you know what I mean. But I think that But to your point, what you were saying sorry, I didn't mean to cut

you off, but you're absolutely right. I think that Will Smith has always been you know, so so obsequious with with Hollywood and with you know, the establishment. He's always kind of been fonding for their approval, you know what I'm saying. And I think he set the standard of being the squeaky clean, nice guy, clean cut guy, always smiling, you know, always kind of dancing. But you know, Will still a man, He's still a human being. He's not infallible.

So that's the guy, and that's the guy that's the most dangerous the practice. The most dangerous dude was the guy on the edge, because I think Chris Rock took a slap for everybody that has done Will Smith. That het like distrospected him in the kind of way. I think that was his moment like I'm not putting up with this ship no more, and I'm gonna slap the shout of a motherfucker. Because if you saw the initial response to that, like when the camera pianto him, he

was laughing along with everybody else. But then once I saw his wife kind of make that look like this, I said, it's about to go down now, wife, has let it be known that, hey, this dude disrespecting me, are you gonna do something about it? Because she's the main one that has taken every chance. It seems like every opportunity that she has to speak about their relationship, she makes Well look count like he's the weaker vessel

in the relationship. I mean he should have he should have been put his foot down or put his foot in her ass. I don't you know whichever one you want to go with. But you know, Jada is definitely the precipitating factor for a lot of this BS. I mean, would have left when you would a level of transparent parency.

You have to understand, you open yourself up to a bunch of bullshit, you know, and the comments social media, you know, you have to think a lot of the commentary with them, you know, for the past couple of years have become very you know, like vitriol, you know what I'm saying, acrimonious and hateful, you know, and people are still human, you know what I mean at the

end of the day. So and then you know, we all gotta deal with and modulate all them emotions about Tupac, you know, he you know, she low key she didn't already went on red table talks talking about he ain't bangering her writer or something to that effect. Then you know, you know that she she was in love with Tupac and I think we all always wanted to be a badass, but he couldn't be that, or maybe I don't know. You know what I'm saying. Well, you think about the

whole premise of the Fresh Prince of Beller. He talks about it. He got his ass both and his mom's shipping out of Philly up in a little you know, Roger Field or whatever. So like Will Smith, that's this moment that comes out and saying I would no longer be the world's bitch. But you know what, to think about it, you don't get no brownie points for slapping

Chris Rock. Chris Rock is almost think to your old man, and he don't want no smoke because to think about it, if it was me up there, if it was Glasses up there, if it was you know, the Rock, hell, if it was Cat Williams up there, I doubt he would have you know, swung on Cat and somebody who you know gonna turn up and come back. Because you gotta think of how adually he turned around and walked away. He knew it wasn't nothing coming. I don't know, I

think he would have did it to anybody, you think so. Yeah. But it's also like, I'm a huge fan of Chris Rock. Chris Rock is an awesome though huge fan of Will Smith says he was a fresh prince. But it's one

thing to make a joke right like mine. This has kind of been a running thing, right since the first Oscars, would Chris Rock where he had that a lot of choice things to say about Jada and Will boycotting the Oscar, you know, a lot of them, the people from the culture was boycotting Oscars because obviously they felt they were mistreating black people. And he had a lot of choice things to say. And I don't know if those things

were every you know result. So it's one thing that said when somebody not in the audience, it's another thing to say it. You know, you joke about my wife in a really sensitive place in front of her, you feel me. And even the laugh you're talking about it was a condescending laugh, like you know what I mean, Like I'm a laugh but you know what I mean. It wasn't a laugh like, oh, I thought this was funny.

More or less, I'm just holding faced. So I think, Um, I think we're starting to come into a world where we really start to believe that people should not be held accountable for what they say. Like, and that's my issue. Like Chris Rock is a comedian, right, he's all time great top five guy, especially my error growing up. Um, But also I think most comedians know you could be

held accountable for what you say. And usually comedians and R and B singers are usually the most feisty people, you mean, because they're used to being confronted about the stuff they said. So for Chris to make that joke about that man while he's sitting in the front to make it about his wife while they're sitting in the front row, you know, you gotta believe in your heart it's only so many jokes you could tell about any man and their wife. And me, for you joke about

my wife, we're gonna have a problem. So it's like, if you joked about his wife, it just went the wrong way. And I think Chris Rock kind of as much as people don't believe this, I think Chris Rock knew he was wrong, but then let's let me touch on this a little bit too glasses. I mean, now we have to you know, Chris Rock just recently came out and he divulged that he's on the spectrum he

has aspergers. So you know Chris Rock, So with that meaning that sometimes Chris Rock, you know, he struggles with social cues. Sometimes he can't read the room against on that bro because we're in a not in the society. We're in a place to where everybody has an excuse for their actions. Oh, I have as Burgers. He's this, he's that, he has this kind of Steinfeld has aspergers. There's not a comedy ever made a million dollars it doesn't have a diagnosabal psychician. Let me land on my point.

Let me land on my point, because I'm gonna say something. Right with that being said, I think Chris Rock was doing his job of being a comedian. We all know, we all love comedy, right, you know, Peter is a comedian itself. You prow up on stage, you may have a you may if I sit in the front row with my wife, I gotta kind of almost expect this dude to say something crazy. You just hope he don't go to for all the line, right, but this is

my thing, man us as black man. I was just speaking on you know, shut Off a Black Effect, the network that we owned, you know, Glass Shout the Dolly and those guys. They had an opportunity last week to speak to a room for the people of extinct people in the podcast the World at Um Pop movement. They're just now letting us start to speak and stuff like that. You know, I'm talking about black men, black people in general. We're starting to finally get our place in this thing,

right with the oscars. It's been a long time coming, man, that our artists are actors, actresses gettnowledged for the great works that they were doing because twenty years ago they weren't getting the knowledge. Shell ten years ago they won. It took us a long road to get to the where we're at, man, and I just wish that he would have handled it in a different way, because you

know what they say in their mind. I'm gonna tell you, Peter, I know you white, so you probably privy to those white secret discussions that you have to the side, you know what I mean. Yeah, but I'm pretty sure the conversation was this, like damn I Will Smith came at right. Just imagine if we had fifty center Snoop Dogg here. You follow what I'm saying. Nobody at the OSCARS is saying wouldn't have handled it like that. That's what I'm saying. But listen, though, listen, and my thing is this. I'm

glad Will Smith didn't go to jail for this. I'm glad Chris Rock didn't press charges. But court, please believe had that been myself, glasses or you walk up on stage and slept, then the l APD would have drugged you out of there. They wouldn't have game a damn about you being who you were. If he was nominated you that got drug out and be able to press charges on your Chris Rock would have declined to press charges. Guess what were we're picking up this case? Court is

going to jail. Yeah, we beat We be at the County at Wayside right now with no bond. But but but I think, honestly, I think I think our community is being a little bit more ridiculous than like even when I see it on the news and the wife was talking about it, they understand like Chris Rock was doing his job as a comedian and Will Smith was doing his job as a husband and me again sometimes and again at times like right, the life we live on this street life right is a bit primitive. It's

pretty basic. It's basic, basic rules. So if you do something to me in front of everybody, I gotta do it to you in front of everybody, so you understand because you didn't make the joke in private and private, maybe I'll let it go. I'm like, man, hey, don't get at my wife like that. You have made this joke. You didn't turn my wife into a joke in front of all these people. I'm gonna slap the ship out

to you now. I'm not seeing me. Y'all have stolen him, so I probably would have win jail because I'm not slapping on another grown man. I'm gonna fire ship up for me. But again, it's one of those things where I don't care which stage we have. And we gotta stop talking about them too, dude, like they just two black people. These is more time, more time, more time, million dollar men and me. They even though they're black, they is in another class of ship going up what

we think. I think they're almost be in their status. I mean, I don't. I'm talking about actual cash, fun worth. I'm talking about they got money. So my point is if no, what I don't get is I hear a lot of men like, oh, she looked at him and he reacted. If you can't understand why a man would defend his wife's honor, Like we are in a really different place in the world, Like you know what I mean, Like if you thought for two seconds, feel me, Like if we go to a comedy show, right, and you

gotta again, you gotta assess the risk. Right, if you joke about certain people, you know what I mean, you gotta assess that they might not think the joke is funny. And there is no vessel, whether hip hop or comedy or nowhere, where you can just say what you want to say and not be held accountable for it. It's just not a realistic aspect. It's true, you exactly right. We live in a society to where everyone wants these

uh liberties and protections on certain stuff. I look at it, like we all know my son is an athlete, right, my son being a high profile After this whole life, I've had to stand by a look at certain reporters say stuff, certain reporters, you know what, um, certain opinions or whatever like that. And my thing is this, I don't mind someone stating an opinion or doing that, but when it becomes personal to where it feels like it's a personal attack on a kid or whoever it is,

nobody has that right to do that. And I'm gonna tell you this, This may make this may force some people to start thinking before they left, was ever in their brain come out their mouth? They may have to start existing this stuff and they are like, well, you know what if I say this, man, I might look around and get slept and then again. But then again, O G. You have to figure man, all of that is subjective to you know what I'm saying, Like, we

can't walk on eggshells. We can't expect comedians to walk on eggshells because what's offensive to one person may not be offensive to the other, you know what I mean. So I think that's that's very personal, that it is subjective, so and even but but but even at that point, right court, because it's like, that's why we call comedians courageous. You know, That's why Dave Chappelle's last three for a podcast, they've used the term brave and courageous because we understand

you could be held accountable. Hell, you can't post what you want on Instagram no more, and that's your platform that you built on your own. Again, like the concept of freedom of speech means you can't be legally and that's not real right because we know about conspiracy. You can say anything and they be like, well, you said it, so you're gonna prisit for just saying this. So even that concept freedom of speech means you can't be what the theory of it is, you can't be legally processful.

You can't legally be prosecuted for what you said. But if you offend another human being, you know you may have to be held accountable. Somebody may come to me and be like, hey, what does that mean? Or like in christians suation, I still love Chris and I still love will feel me. I still look up to them brothers and and and all the entertainment they provided their brilliousness. But you know, both of them did their job. That's

just how it goes sometimes. And as men, they could come together at at at some expensive restaurant and satturday differences. Maybe they can go in the backyard and line it up and they'll figure it out. But exactly for us to be as a society looking crazy because a man defended his wife's honor, we are in a different motherfucking time. That man ended his wife's honor. This nigger insulted his wife multiple times at the Oscars, multiple times a thousand jokes.

It's sometimes the ship may not be funny. I might not be. Yeah, it can go over board. And see how long you think we've known each other, bro, how many years you think you know? If it's a joke, dog, I can take that. But when you get the joke in about maybe a condition that my wife may have or something like that, all I know is my wife's feelings are hurt. At that point, I am damn should go react if the person says something that it hurts

my wife. I think everybody on this panel was gonna stand up and probably do the same thing that that Chris Rock deal. We may not do that that time, but I would have definitely had a conversation with Chris, especially because I know they got history. Yeah they have, they have a long history. Nothing and and and that's my point, like, what if nobody knows the conversations they've

been having over the time since the last Oscars. You feel me when all the coach was boycatting Oscars and Chris was there, you feel me that again the depth of it. But the reality is, I don't think neither one of them was wrong. Now, if you know, I respect Chris like I I respect Chris for not prosecuting him, you know, I mean he understands. I think genuinely Chris thought himself like, damn, I should have told that joke. Why that nickel sitting there with his wife. I think

he thought of that. I think that's kind of the thing that stopped him from reacting when he was like fuck because it's some kind of confusion that Chris is some kind of punk and that just ain't true. And Chris got a ship load of brothers and them niggas is tripping, so you can't be no punk with a

lot of brothers. The nigga had some stuffles, So I think you know, there's a place where you know, it's two weird things going on, right, It's it's a weird thing where we're trying to like classify this as the whole culture. In a failure moment in front of white people. Literally, white people are at war in front of the whole world over nothing, Russia and Ukraine. And I don't think none of us like, well, you know, I look at how they're making the white race. Look, I don't think

none of us is saying that right. And these are whole native countries of white folks, I mean, just white folks fighting over whatever right. We see Will Smith, we see multime million dollar actor Will Smith slapped multimillion dollar comedian Chris Rock and we're like, oh, look here they're shaming the black folks. So that's just this semi weird dynamic that's just stupid. Part two is the day we can shame a man for standing up for his wife's integrity.

Feel me, like, what the fuck is going on in this world to where that's cool? We we we're gonna shame this man for defending his wife. Now, if we don't agree with when he did it, cool, and we don't agree with how he did it cool, but defending his wife's honor. Bro, this nigga said a joke to his wife that hurt her feelings, and it was about something that was medically not saying he even had knowledge.

Nick if you talk about my wife Waite nigga and she got cancer, I might slap the ship out you too. You didn't have to know, nigga. That's the point of you know, being okay with the joke. You tell you gotta be okay and be willing to deal with it. Yeah,

I agree. I agree with some of what you're saying. Um, But like going back to like you said with Chris Rock, Um, once I thought about it, you know, a lot of people were trying to use it to you know, like man hood is a continuum, you know what I mean, So it's not predicated upon, you know, the toxic masculinity of it. Because Chris Rock turned the other cheek. I don't think he who I don't think. I don't you know what I'm saying. I think I think just like

you Court, I think he thought about it. Yeah, I think he thought about it. Either thought I was wrong or it's not the time of place, or kind of was more stunned. But again, I don't get the whole as nigger because of the stage. Now, stage makes it a challenge. And also you gotta think right. The street rules only work when you pour you like some level of poverty. Your reputation is choice when you got that

millions of motherfucking dollars. But almost don't give a funk what you're talking about now, Now what you're saying that that's the other side of it, because you gotta understand, Chris Rock got people to love him too. Everybody ain't rich like him to love him. Everybody don't have a lot to lose. Some of them motherfucker's that want to see wheels. Some of them would crash out, you know what I mean. Tony Rock, he's a comedian, but he ain't on Chris Rocks level, you know what I'm saying.

And Tony might want to smoke if he runs that will the line Tony Up. I think you could give him a farewell. This is the I think nothing about Will Smith make me think he a pump. I think not at all entertaining like us when I was a little kid, you know what I'm saying. And I think people here like I've seen the thing where people was talking about Jada told Tupac to not oh uh, the

homie from now Laws cool brother um from Jersey. He was saying, you know, Jada told the Poli and the Polis in an interview that Jada told Pop don't beat a Will. I'm not sure he would have been with Will is a big goal and Will that like motherfucker's get that. You know, niggas think that because listen, one thing about me is like I got a couple of

square homeboys. Everybody that I know ain't from the streets, right and they just they and I and I actually respect my square homeboys to stay in their lane more than I do the fake niggas that want to act like they really with that, but they're not, you know what I'm saying. You know, so at the end of the day, man, like I said, I think that with Chris Rock, you know, I commend him on keeping poise

and modulating his feelings in that moment. I wouldn't have been able to do it, you know what I'm saying, God, because because we still were still took. Also, we're still too close to holding like I call it, like the inflated value reputation. I mean, we're still too close to wear a reputation is a big but you know what, maybe maybe, but I don't know. Just in that this second, somebody putting their hands on me, I don't care where the stage is. You know, I could have a billion dollars.

Is I'm a responding kind you know what I mean? And that's just innate, you know, so iour billion dollars, I don't know. If you got a billion dollars, it wouldn't be I hope I wouldn't be doing the same ship glasses log what'll be doing? But if you gotta, if you got a billion dollars, you can afford to do whatever it is and respond however you want, because at aillion, nobody is telling you anything. Nobody, you know, I felt was real quick. We can step off and

take a quick break though for sponsors. Right now, I pay some bills real quick, and when we return, we would continue our discussion about the slap heard around the world against the chronicles. We'll be right back, all right. In the previous period we were talking about this whole thing with Will Smith and Chris rocking the slapt right, yea. Now, the one thing that we have to consider, right, and I'm no glasses. You said that everything can't be about

race all the time. But the condition that she suffers from what is it called apecia? Aloppicia? All right? Alopecia almost exclusively affects black women. So someone that may ask the question was or maybe Chris I didn't write that joke, you had enough heart to say it. Then you know he had enough heart to say it. And I think black women in particular, dude, they always get looked at like they're gonna be okay, they can survive it. They're tough.

If if I'm gonna tell you this right now, had that been a showish looking at you like you crazy and don't tell me what you think of, don't give us the white man? Are you? Are you gonna tell me you think a third party writer was going to predict in advance what a black woman was going to do with her hair and an award show, Well, no, I'm saying with somebody else said she been Oh somebody mentioned that that somebody else may have wrote the joke, but I said the same thing you said. They would

have had to rent it in that pance. You know she's not gonna wear a wegg or do something whatever, the one without her hair. Yeah, but how did you say that again? You know you might have alopecia. Yeah, I'll do it. That's crazy. I'm gonna so it's like I cut this ship off, you know, but wrong. It's like this, like I was, remember do you remember when

Lisa Leslie got pushed down? It was a it was doing a basketball game and the benches clear and the coach um, I forget the guy's thing used to actually playing the NBA and everything. He kind of shoved her a little bit and she was like up leading across the floor like you know, he was just trying to break up the fight. He didn't do it on purpose, though he didn't push her. He heat knowing that, right,

But I noticed nobody talked about that dog. It's a whole bunch of stuff, man, that sisters go through and nobody is ever there to protect them. So and I think it wasn't about the joke. Though I stand on that. I believe that it was not about the joke. It was about the narrative. I've seen d Ray I've seen d Ray Davis say some super disrespectful ship in the crowd, you know, on the stage, I should say to the crowd,

you know what I mean? And and he been in reference to a person's like it's just a little bit that I would see him do. I don't know if he still does it. But basically, I mean, he basically clowned on the dude. If if the dudes girl stood up like he like he said, it was a bit that he did. But you know, and nobody got mad. So I think you have to understand context too. So you know, I think comedy I don't know. But but Right has been in skirmishes though over Joe. I can't

believe people don't think that. I don't doubt that the Right being in some ship, Cat being in some ship like the cat. The cat doesn't himself. But I'm saying that he initiates it. But but but I think I see that's not fair because I still don't believe. I think Cat that comes off. That's I think Cat gets a hard time because you know, Cat is a bit. People do that people people do me too, and people do funk with Cat. People kind of people pick with Cat.

I'm not with y'all people funk with cat. People be looking at Cat. Yeah, people funk with cat man. They see cat and be like, man, what cats actually want? And that's my point where we look at him crazy because he ago. But that's what I think of all comedians. I don't think there's not one comedian. I think Jim carry a throw hands because he understands, you know, people may get offended. I think that's the that's what makes the comedian job. Don't have Asperger's sure he do. Sure,

I'm positive he do. He might have to have a lot more than that. We all know. That's why we love our comedians right, because they may say something off the cuff. For sure, it's funny. We all sit up and kicking laugh, but it's not so funny when the joke is on. You were you the one being up there richly, dude, because I want to tell you this, I didn't know. Me and my wife wanted this comedy thing one time. Man. And you know, for people that know,

my wife is Mexican. So we're sitting up in the front. Bro, I'm sitting at the smile and I'm looking at one. I'm laughing. He goes in on this. People like a few chairs down, keep laughing, kicking and Hi hide and then he said, what's your big head ass laughing at your water heard ass? Everybody then read look at me and start laughing. And he said, so I'm like this, And then he said, what's you laughing for with the big gass chief. He said, okay, old on, so you

black as you're missing. You guys have kids? Yeah we got children. Yeah, you know we're laughing and stuff front to be just sports. He said, Wow, y'all got the Oltiman thief. They fast, He said something like, he said, they they thieves that can run fast. And I was like, damn, that's fucked up, you know what I mean. He's pretty much that clowning the dog. And so I started feeling

some kind of way dog. Of course you did. And I left like five minutes later because I really didn't jump on stage and just think it wasn't a distance. We had to take a little walk. Yeah, at once that walk he had to take once he got up. It wasn't over turned down because you look like the biggest bitch in the world. If you get up to go run up on stage, you gotta take that walk. Just turn around. They're gonna say, okay, we all thought

about it, you know what I mean. But I was right there, like maybe two feet from this dude, and it took all I had not to just sweep his legs or some of them jump up from stage and just knock his ass out. Because when everybody in the whole room was laughing. Next when you look and see your wife laughing next, you you kind of just like, damn,

this motherfucker's disrespecting me now. But Dan O g you gotta understand, Like if you're going to go see D. L. Hugley, you know, d Ray, you gotta know what you're dealing with. You understand context, and you understand what you're going you know what I mean, Like I got fired up. I got fired up by Chris Spencer. Chris Chris Spencer, fire my suck. And and on top of that, I was sitting in the front and I was late, so I come in and of course as soon as he's seen me,

he just started going in. I got all the steroid jokes, all the jails jokes, I got everything, you know what I'm saying. But I understood who I was coming to see, and I understood I was sitting in the front. So I think, you know, if you're sensitive, I think just people in general, if you're sensitive and you don't want to be the butt of the jokes. And again, you know, contingent upon who you're coming to see, ship sit your

ass in the back where they can't see you. Yeah. Also, also, like I said, I've seen d Ray and the Ray is my god, solid dude. You know what, I met him a couple of times. Fun what he cooled dude, But sid d Ray he said, Shi, And I know d Ray go hands. So he's gonna to have some because too far. Yeah, and that's what he don't even try to be funny. He just trying to make a person. Man. Yeah,

I like you offended. If the Ray feels like you offended, really don't make leaning to it more, that's gonna make him even more so. So I so I do think you know, that's part of the courageousness of being a comedic, like like a hip hop artist. It's courageous because you're supposed to, you know, like like you're supposed to take un charted journeys, you know what I'm saying, uncharted discussions

and you bring them public. You know what I'm saying, places that the culture has never been, and you bring them public. You bring them out for everybody to see. But everybody don't have to like it. Like we can argue that that roasting somebody and making comedy and and commentary is two different things, you know, But I agree totally right. But I'm saying we're talking about somebody roasting somebody like Chris Rock. That was the beginning of a roast,

you know what I'm saying. That was even when we was walking up, He's like up there king Richard as a man. Yeah, because I think I didn't think he who's gonna go that far? And I don't think for two minutes he thought it was gonna go that far. You know, he had his hands behind his back and he leaned his face out. I think he was gonna whisper some to him or you're a funny push or something,

and this ship went left quick. So that's my point, Like I'm not saying, just like if a transgender person walked up and one to day Chappelle fade, shouldn't nobody be surprised? Right? Transgender you know, because they have been the brunt of his joke. Somebody could really be offended. And I get it right, there's a legal asset that has to be had, which we don't have ship to

do with because we ain't the police. But from a regular level of human beings, we should understand that at times, you know, some of these roads could go you know to a place. Well, I get it in real life. In real life if I get it, but again, we have to people gotta understand context, you know what I'm saying. Like me and Bosco was one hundred, was having this

conversation and I was telling him the same thing. I was like, you know, I was kind of telling them, bro, you should lean into you know, you know, the culture of social media and content creators. I was like, a lot of it because it's tricky when you're dealing with street guys, you know what I mean. We have a different understanding, you know when it comes to sense of

humor or roasting and different things like that. But it's not that serious when you understand the form that it's said in, you know, and the context of which it said. So if you roasting somebody and it's the social media thing and y'all going back and forth, that don't mean that, you know, people need to it needs to result to violence or or you know, anything like that. I think sometimes people just got to relax, you know, because it's

coming from a comedian. It's not coming from you know, someone that's you know, you're trying to get hired on from a job or or something like that. It can't even be personal because they don't know you personally, So how can you take it personal? Well, I'm gonna share a clip and when something went too far, tell me what you guys think about this? Right here? Can you gotta see that clip? Don't get a twisted she so let me. I'll be hurting you. You all leave this.

I I've been around the world furdays, battles and motherfucking times. No, my little president wasn't my friend but her. I'll protect this an occasion fear putting a DJ hold on yo. You gotta fuck up. I'm trying to change, yo. She chucks out the comedians to take up. Cuse, come on there, because tell a nice sight for her. You gon night Gate City time, Nigga, I told you what sol Cus then teat you like you ain't know this and fuck your wife? He DJ. Now, let me ask you all this.

Did that go too far? Oh? Yeah, yeah, that was just that. That was just a whole bunch of ignorant ship. It went too far on both both parts. You know what I mean. Once you start, you know, heckling the person with the mic, for one, you have to know that they have the mic, you know what I'm saying. But the comedian, he definitely went way overboard. He made it personal. He definitely made a person didn't really go overboard because he's up there trying to perform a job.

And yeah, the woman that's been heckling the crowd all night, Yeah that motherfucker' I probably shot that. That's where you got security though. That's where if somebody is disturbing the show, you have security removed them, or you you have the people you know at the event, make her be quiet or remove them. He made it personal because he's still that he doing his job. But he still gotta lead. You know what I'm saying. You still gotta step out

that spot and lead, you know. So, Yeah, but it was it was bad all the way around, all them folks ignorant. I know somebody died that night, huh. I don't know, you know, but probably not. But that was the move nigger I don't ever seen. I wouldn't have made one. I wouldn't have made one joke. I just waited in the part I wouldn't have had with me. I wouldn't have said that either, said that one joke. I wait in the park A lot point terrorized. What happened. Man,

he part of people. He probably would have really been a bad place with me that because he kind of took to me. It's one thing and being funny, but it's a point that you can go to the world ain't funny no more. It's hateful and it's vitriol. It's it's mean. Yeah, And I can't hear the audience know what I'm saying, So I ain't gonna just do anim like that court, Like I don't know what was being said to to the to held me on the stage. So but I mean, man, you know what I mean.

But that's why I say, like, like the freedom of speech thing is more of a legal thing, right, that means you not you're not supposed to be prosecuted for what you say, right, I mean we know that ship ain't no good obviously again back to conspiracy, right, but that's the theory of it. Outside of that, every then you say, you could be held accountable. So you know what I mean. It's that's why I watch what I say. I'm really choice with what I say to other human being.

Like I never called another man a bit. I'm a just real talk I mean, because and I think you know one thing that I kind of live by and it may be extreme, but again, you understand glasses and I'm sure you do too. Still, um, coming from and you know, Peter, you may, I don't know your background,

but you know, coming from my environment, you understand that. Like, once you make up in your mind that you're gonna say anything disrespectful to a man, no no matter how egregious you have to, you really have to make up in your mind that you're either willing to die or kill about that, because it can go that far. You know. You know how many times in the hood where nigga's have been playing a dozen you know, even Willie D said it, what what was the song? He had? Homie?

Don't play that? Stop your whole boys grill, because that's how niggas get killed. Nigga's like a joke when you're serious, you know what I'm saying. So you know, at the end of the day, if you're not willing to die out that or kill about that, then just leave people alone, you know, because my point is that you brought up Bosco right, and that's a nigga I funk with. You know, I'm proud of I feel like I know what he where he came from. I know he changed his life

and found the space. But it be when he heat nigga's up, niggers really want to fighting. So again it's it's that's why I don't really disrespect other men. Like if if in my mind I want to disrespect you, I'm gonna just go to the final level, you know what I mean, Like, I'm gonna just go because that way, we got a real problem. If I disrespect you and I'm not gonna call your names over the phone, not gonna call your names in person, We're not gonna get

into no shouting mount matches of disrespect. At that point, I need to just show you exactly what I think of you. Let's peel on that back though, glasses. I mean, think about that though. That is something that that we're taught and that that we have kind of inherited from

my environment. But think about that though. I don't know that that's necessarily a normal thing that we should be like that because think about it as black people, especially you know, we deal with each other so heavy handedly, to the point that Dan, we can't even joke with each other, you know, because if you I watch a lot of these content creators like Bosco and so forth.

Like even having Bosco and crypt Mac on my show, you know, I tried to be mindful and cognizant not to feed into the bullshit, even though they're opposing influencers, you know what I'm saying. So you have to be real careful and like I was telling Bosco, I said, man, you know it's cool that I think you're creating the culture of where it's okay to joke, it's okay to have a sense of humor. Yeah, I'm firing your ass up, but I don't want to kill you. I don't want

to you know what I'm saying. I don't want to do nothing to you. It's all entertainment, you know. So I think if you you know, again, people have to come back to context. You know, the ship ain't that serious. Like again, it's one thing for somebody that you don't know to walking down the street and they start disrespecting you.

But it's another thing, you know, if you're in a comedy show or you're dealing with someone who that's their brand or or that's what they do, that's their stick or whatever, and they lock in on you I mean, you can remove yourself at that point. You know, I don't think it to be so so so you know extreme, Well, yeah, I guess I agree to some personally me Like I said, I just I feel like some people are blessed with with ye and some people aren't, and people tend to

take advantage of it. You will bully other people with with right, and you know they will assault you with intellect people. Doesn't mean he tries his best not to. But Pete, I've seen you people very great. I'm just joking because Pete really he can disarm people with his wits. So but I've seen people who are really witty, right, like really intelligent, and they bully people mentally with the things they say and then somebody else's prize possession, maybe

their physical demeanor. I mean. And that's why I say, like it's a thin line and you just gotta be careful with how you do how you handle people in general, even on all facets of life. And like I said, I genuinely believe in none of the arts. You mean, is it okay to disrespect or insult people? And if you do, you kind of gotta be ready for you know, like we say we just were saying that, like you get learned, like me, watch what because it's certain niggas.

You know, when you grow up with these niggas, you're like, if you joke with this nigga, you're gonna be in a fight. Yeah, because you know how they are, and it's nothing wrong with them that that's just how they feel about the jokes. They not like that. And since you had the perfect understanding, the perfect descriptions, freedom speaks to just watch what you say because yeah, in the quarter of the copinion, and now we have cancel culture,

you know which I hate. I hate cancel culture because you know, it's says the standard, like society wants to hold people to a standard that they can't hold themselves too. That's what cancel culture is, just an idea because all that he is is a group of niggas a small group of niggas that think they're being a group of people that think they so bed You just canceled in your own mind, because I get to see that be effective because I've see people but we canceling this culture.

If I still want to watch that show, we'll watch that. I don't give a funk what they said. Still I mean what I mean. Yeah, that's what I mean by cancel culture. Like now they talk about Will Smith bad boys for all of a sudden they want to halt it. Then it was something else that's ridiculous because it's it's it's unrealistic. We're all with None of us are infallible, none of us are perfect, especially for man defending his

white like I don't care listening. I don't care if he got a d U I I don't care if he just punched him, just because whatever he stepped over. At the end of the day, you know what I'm saying, the people that are pushing his project back and making these decisions, let's look into their life, Let's look into their ship. You see what I'm saying, and see what their transgressions are. That's the part of cancel culture I

don't like. It's because they start to create this unrealistic measure of perfection that doesn't exist for any of us. But that's also why you gotta just be the wrong

nigga you are. And this is exactly and this is why I said, Will Smith did himself a disservice from way back thirty years ago by painting the picture of being this squeaky clean, you know, acquiescent to everybody and all of that ship to where now him being a man or just being a regular person, to responding like a regular person, it's like, oh my god, you know will not But if the Will didn't do that, he wouldn't ever been in the front row to begin with.

I agree with what Peter been in the building the beginning, But that's why it's also dope. It ain't always worth being in the front row right right for me because I agree with Court, like cancel. Culture is a real thing, and I've conceded certain things right because I will never be what other people want me to be. I'm just going to be who I remember going on the Breakfast Club. But Angelie, he asked me, would you hit a woman? Hell yeah, the reason hit to anybody? What's he do

to me? And she just thought that was so phenomenal, Like, don't opinions of our guests, don't use the host all right, heart media, listen again. I get it. We live in the space to what people are scared to say, what they think. I refuse to live in that space. And if it keeps me at the front row at Oscars, I'm fine, fuck oscars and listen, I'm agree with you. I don't know. Yeah, no, no, I'm saying she She's like yeah, because if you say that, I was like,

I don't care. You asked me a question. I'm giving you an honest anster, like, what has she done to me? What exactly did she do to me? So I can figure out exactly what I would do? And I remember doing a brilliant idiots and I was having a conversation with Charlette Magne the True and they was like, yeah, glasses blah blah, Yeah, I'm tresphobic. Oh you can't say that. Why can't I have a genuine fear of trans people?

People don't think you hate somebody. I ignorance. When we gonna have when I'm not mad, that don't mean I'm not gonna be scared. But Flame is a cross dresser that's different. Blame is not trying to convince you that she's anything outside of Flame. There are people in this world that were born males that want me to see them as women. That scares me. All right, I think we should move to the next topic right now, Court, And you see what I'm skid like, I didn't even

say nothing bad. I understand exactly what you're saying, but I'm not saying nothing bad. I despise cancel culture. But at the same time, I understand that with social media, right, because everybody is cheap, and it all comes back to winning down, come back to the money, and that's all

it comes back to. Right. So what happens is if you say something that goes against the norm, goes against the you know, the faith, puritanical notions of the mainstream media and all of that, then it hurts sponsorship, It hurts dollars. That's why they really back up from it, because of public opinion, you know what I mean. And social media is a gift and the curse in that sense, because people are cheap. All they take is for the tide the terms, like record companies say, they say all

the time, the war is won in the comments. You know, record companies got whole you know, they got a whole team of people that sit up with a bunch of different accounts to you know, something bad out there. They got a bunch of people with accounts to go in there and sway to tie, to sway the narrative, you know what I mean. So at the end of the day, that's what it comes down to. But I'm with you, bro. I understand etiquette, and I understand tact, and I understand

couth in time and place. But we should still be able to be true to who we are and say what we feel. And it's not always. It doesn't everybody's not gonna think the same, everybody's not gonna agree, and we can agree to disagree respectfully. I have a revelation, guys, um, we're living in an era where people do not like the truth. If you tell the truth, you can be looked at it. Um, almost you almos looked at it.

Ride if you gotta tell the truth. If I go outside the day and my neighbor says, hey, Mr Steel, how are you doing, I say, you know what, Your breath is horrible. You should go brush your teeth. It may be true. She's gonna go back in the house and say, you know what the guy down there is. He was being rude, and I would to being rude. I was telling you that you would have bad breath, and that's why I refused to conform to societal norm

at that point. Like if we can't be honest, like I could see if I was just speaking off ignorance emotions. I'm these are literal thoughts that have been processed out and people. The thing is because people refuse to you that they're so intellectually lazy to entertain the conversation. It's like, well, no, this is what I have to think, because society says I have to think. This is easy and I'm not subscribing. Fore me, like I counseled my subscription to that. I'm cool.

So before we um because I see we're running out of time. Kelly's the time limit. Oh no, it's not a time limine. But I want to get this off. I want to really have some I really want to have some dialogue about this. California is the first state to start proceedings on offering us as a people reparations. Now they have a UM, they have a task force that they've established, and UM, I guess there's average this

task force and forcing. June of two thousand twenty one, State of California initiated the Reparations Task Force to consider questions of conversation for the dependents of the victims of the tail slavery. The task forces to report to the state legislator in June of two thousand and twenty three to make recommendations. So now I'm seeing that this is

going out to two thousand and twenty three. This is probably money we would never get, Bro, because it's a consideration to possibly think about, considering the thought of like that ship was all a bunch of nothing. Certainly, wife called Pete. I don't know, y'all do language you listen to this though? Bro, it is significant that the demand finds its home in California. For all states, the demand for reparations has been consistently rejected at the national level,

but its proponents have found support here. In the Andebellum California deported runaway slaves back to the South, but nonetheless remained a free states government, opposed the expansion of slavery into the state, and supported the Union of the Civil War. When the Reparations Task Force were kicked off in Midge two thousand twenty one, California Secretary is Secretary of State Shirley Webber asked why in California, why not somewhere else? Why did we not do it in the stuth? It's

not us then, who? But see what they're saying the motion passed Fier for the state of the eligibility would be determined by individual being in African American, descent of a chattel enslaved person, or the descendant of a free black person living in the US prior to the end of the nineteenth century. This criteria excludes black African immigrants, of which there are more than three hundred thousand California. So they're saying that you have to be able to

go back and prove your lineage. You have to be able to say, Okay, I had a grandmother that was living in Mississippi during the eighteen hundreds during this time. A lot of people may not have those resources to do that. That's why we need to how do you we need That's why we need to be prepared forgive me for being Peter, you know a capitalists, right. We need to focus right now and create a corporation in California where we put together a way to help people

trace their lineage back in exchange. That's what I was telling court before we came because because I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen with this jing boy, We'll be up. I'm gonna everywhere. I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen, Brom. Just like you have people. You remember when they established certain benefits for people that were wrongly incarcerated for marijuana, and they came out and said, we're gonna help you be able to legally do that. They get, you know,

special licensing considerations and all the other stuff. You saw at luge of businesses popped up just designed to get in on that and say, Okay, we're gonna help you. But now you get these guys come out of prison, they're pretty much working for somebody. Now. They don't have their own business. They're using them because they get the benefits. I can see some white corporation being small. We're going to help the black people get what they want, and

we're gonna give them up the costs. They're gonna get the total something, but we're going to collect the risk. I'm gonna tell you, bro, a lot of people are not going to have the resources to be able to go back and prove that they're great great great great

grandmother was a slave. Hence brothers. That's why I think that that's the loophole right there, because they know that's my three brothers right this this at you know, not Pete, but still because if you do it, Pete this, they're gonna be the I'm like, fuck, whatever you do, if you help somebody you in trouble, you can nobody get

no money. White people might steal glasses and quote, we need to figure that out right now, put together a plan to help people trace it back at a small fee of I think that's a that's a smart business model. But I think that too, And just in my opinion, I think that I think it's bullshit because to be honest with you, I think they just need to give black people period, you know what I'm saying, because we're all descendants of slaves, and and no matter what you

gotta think, it's not just slavery. Why you gotta stop it at slavery, you know, Let's talk about the systemic racism. Let's talk about the Drake Coney and prison laws, Let's talk about the crack epidemic. It's a lot of ship, they got a lot. So I think that it should just be minorities, particularly black people African American. We know we didn't we wasn't born here. I don't know that my great great great great I'm sure somebody in my bloodline was a slave. But I'm black, so I wasn't

born here in America. I got here something my people got here, something that almost passed. They almost see it. We're gonna give any person this African American outside of someone that came directly from Amerrica. Right, that was on the table and it barely failed, like barely feels like five or four or something like that. Yeah, because I get because Brock could have got some of that money that and I don't but that could have got one but much money. You know. My thing is what reparations

look like. But see, but now you gotta talk about and said, we gotta start talking aout how much money we're talking about right now? The things I don't think much money. I don't think it should just be in money, you know what I mean. I think that it should be you know, it should be pretty much whatever with advanced the culture. I think if it's a free education, I mean, like the Native America's got casinos. I think even Italian people, uh got some reparations. Everybody then got reparations.

But us right, but tell us those reparations that homelan is it in the form of a home loan, a free Edgercy don't see that. But then what I think it should be a compination. I think it should be a combination of cash and several other considerations. Let's say this, because I'm gonna tell you this right now. If they come with a thing and say, okay, we can giving everybody um over the age of forty a hundred thousand, we're giving everybody this age, that's bullshit. That's what I'm

saying this. I don't think this country can afford reparations because my thing they know they can't, Yes, they can't. Well, my thing is this. They that ship with cope right now when you just looked out for Ukraine and she ain't got nothing. I think that every person in this country should do no less than to three million dollars, no less than every person, every black person, every sort of certain games. Now, my thing is this, I don't

know about that. Some people gonna misappropriate some ship. Bad listen, hear me out here right right, go get on, you won't know the gold change. We just need to make sure we sthing this. I don't think they should be able to come back and tell us how to spend it. I think if if the nigger down the street is dumb enough to go spenders wants being Let's say it winds up being five thousand dollars a person. Right, you're gonna see an influx of new vehicles on the road.

And they're not dumb. They're doing this to thry to accountan me because this we give it's coming right, is going up catillacs, is boring up what niggas desirved to have it. You know what, I want to see a nigga just Gucci down fi me had to that anyway, I don't want to see that. I see that already for them. I want to see nigga. You know what one thing I loved about all of the the loans and the and the E D D s. It was nice to see nigga shine. I don't get funk with

nobody say. You know how many niggas who I know never got money. God, I was so. I thought to myself, like God, because everybody deserves the opportunity to ball. It's good. It's good until they put together that task force. That stuff. I was all the listening I used to sell drugs. Everybody deserves a chance to ball, even if you if you're get in trouble COVID. If you know what happens when you get a chance to ball, you really believe

you could make it, even if it's temperary. You I understand, But but that but you know, glasses, that's that's shortsighted, you know what I'm saying. Like, in order to move the culture forward for real, for real, we get motherfucker's gotta get educated some way shape for but that'sself for me. But like me and you, right to open up these factories, create literal wages and people can invent their children. That's it's up to us, right righte. Niggas for me experience

prosperity like I get it. They're not gonna understand the first time. Nobody understands money when you get the front. When I first my first you know, money on the streets, I didn't know when I first got my first retchiot, I didn't know. You know, I think we all me you ain't had money ntil you had it the third time. That's that's really truly believed the way that should be done. Let's say it was a couple of million dollars over

a certain age group. I think that money should probably be um probably delivered and released over a time period. That way, you know, people walk, you know, they get exchanged to actually educate themselves. I do think there should be some fun nancial literacy involved in this. You're about to get a million dollars, because you see it in

the NFL, NBA all the time. People that win the lottery, they cut a whole bunch of money and then three years later they and worst shape than they word before they even we ever got I got my first I got my first million at like five six, and um, I wasn't even really a materialistic dude. I mean, but I sucked it off, you know, but not I didn't squander it off on like bullshit, but trying, but trying to do businesses and different things that I really wasn't

prepared to do. But I'm staying nevertheless, I lost it. But what I'm saying, that's all a part of you know, like it's the reason why we fuck it off though, you know what I mean, Like we yeah, we're trying to make up for all the times we didn't have something. So no class can teach you past that. I mean, well, well I disagree, because you have to think about it. Like a lot of the others. You know, a lot

of Jewish and the white communities, like think about their kids. Right, they are already taught credit, They're already taught home ownership, they're already taught investing, you know, so they already have those reference points. They're brought up like that. I didn't learn about credit until my late teens, early twenties. You know they did, but remember what they did to me. Again, It's different when poor people trying to teach poor people economics.

I mean we're not talking about you know, they taught that in church. Yeah. No, I'm saying that we go get the information, even poor as a state of mind. So what I'm saying is, again I'm from the hood, right, and I transcended past that because I chose to go get the information. You know, not that you see what I'm saying. I had to learn it and then not only a learning but learning, but I had to apply it to you know what I'm saying. But I still think right, and when you did that right, you got

a chance to experience it. I think I think this is how human beings work in general. I think few are responsible for the masses. I would love a world where everybody is responsible for theirselves, right, but few are responsible for the masses. So it depends on what court glasses still feel, me what we do for our community. Few are responsible for the masses. And then once some prosperities experienced, you could begin to teach your kids. It's hard.

Like me and my boy watched sticks argue about this all the time. Somebody can't figure out how to eat dinner tomorrow. It's hard to talk to him about financial literacy, like this is a nutritional meal that's not even allowing their brain to function. Me I was explaining to compete, like you know, it's it's it's things missing. When your mom is on rock and you eating top rome and

you're already my nutrition, it's hard to process information. The same way it's hard to read book when there's no lights. There's always those stories where somebody had a candles reading the book, but that is not most stories. So I just like I said, I think nothing is like when

you experience your first level of prosperity. Like, don't get me wrong, there's still a lesson to be learned right as far as economics goes, But I think when you experience prosperity, you see the world, you start to view the world like you're not trapped. So you know, yes, I do think if we got to influx the cash, we probably get it right back. But part of it though,

I think. But I'm saying that under the guys of getting that reparation, yeah, of course, when you're in the hood and motherfucker just trying to survive, yeah, you ain't thinking about all of that. But I'm saying if somebody in the hood now, like as you just said, it has an influx of cash and resource, I think it's in order to say, okay, you have this, here's a little bit to get you, you know, get some food in your belly, whatever, whatever. But now you have the

you know, you ain't starving no more. Now you can eat. But now that you're you need to go and educate yourself before we start celebrating. It's not coming to listen to check this out hypothetically, any reparationships and paid out to other groups in the past. The Federal Civil Libertish Act of grant reparations to Japanese Americans who were in turn by the US government and camps during World War Two that gave each surviving victim and official policy and

twenty thousand dollars. Now if they do that to me, if I could have checked with twenty thousand dollars and a little litterally says apologize from slaving your awn sisters, I'm a shift in the box and put all that ship back in there, and I'm sending back to I think I think their in term it was like it was like twenty some months. Yeah, but still wasn't Pete, I know you know this right up your alley. It

wasn't that long. But I think in a lot of cases they have their houses like taken back taken and ship like that. So it was that was more so I think really with asset and it wasn't fair well I guess, I guess because they gave it to it. Now the value of your house, that probably wasn't fair value either. It wasn't even supposed to be that. It was just largely supposed to be a hat tip. If we're gonna be honest, so let me ask you this, would you be happy to get twenty that was court

for the trust? Least of discountry is committed against our people. No, that's an insult. I think that would be an insult. I don't even think you can look at those I would like to see them write the letter to say I'm sorry. They ain't apologize one time in life. If they said I'm sorry, I think I'd be like under in disbelief this country is gonna apologize to black people. Yeah, would be an insult. Like I said, for me, it

has to be bigger than slavery. It has a big bigger than just even start with slavery, just a couple of free labor. Yea, even if you start with that, what that check looked like, Yeah, we we got come on, man, we got Reaganomics. You know we have. Jim Crow said, before we get to there, what do those hours that was that twelve? About twelve hours a day four hundred years? Yeah, probably about three hundred days. You I don't think they

gave nig too many off days. But you have to think about it in this way to do the math on let me do the math. Hold on one second, all right, we didn't math Glass is doing that math. A lot of people are starting to self police themselves, like they just had a New Jersey seminary two thousand twenty that put twenty seven point six million into a scholarship fund and fellowships for send it to slaves, right,

because they realized that their history was flawed. Right. I think you know you have to go to people like Welles far A the Evade. All of those companies were founded during slavery and they've benefited from having slave labor and stuff. I think all of those people need to be held accountable and pay a certain amount of money to this fund, and that fund should be divided amongst every African American person and living in this country, every

last one of them, because everyone is affected. And then that's just the beginning. Like you said, Court, when you talk about slaveries, it's not slavery, it's the systemic racism. It's the lack of opportunities, lack of financial literacy. Because that's a generational thing. Because me and you both from the Midwest originly Court, how many generations of people do we see stand in the same section eighted house. The grandmother lived in that house, the mom lives there now,

not a daughter lives. There's just a system of property.

It's probably grown and a lot of them from and a lot of that comes because it's lack of education, lack of opportunity, because if you think about it, even with my generation, you know, I was made in the seventies, raised in the eighties, right, So if you think about it like we, you know, with the red lining and owning property back in the sixties, seventies and the eighties, owning a home was like having a credit card, you know, literally,

you know, middle class families could refinance their home, do upgrades, take family trips, and the kids to college and all of that. But we weren't able to share in that, you know, we couldn't own property or it was made very, very difficult. So you have a lot of you know, a lot of middle class people in lower middle class, they weren't able to go to college. You know, it's a domino effect, it's a dominant So this is what I figured out, right, I'm being I'm on a curve, right, Pete,

I'm on the curve. I'm on the curve. So twelve hours a day, which I'm sure is more than that three hundred days a year, so that's if you got sixty five days off. I'm sure it was more than that, right, three hundred years slavery was a little bit longer than that too, But I'm just grated on the curve. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm actually uh yo. Count down is one million, eighty thousand hours per person, right, so yeah, yeah that's fair,

that's that's yeah, that's a lot of hours. So the way I see it is like the RST has like an interest, you know, if you add arian interest to it, you know, I mean, it's na said that. Nikka said it in in South Central right it was only five initially or three initially? He was like, he was like, he now owes a fifteen box? Arean interests? Mother? So what that interest was? You feel me? I want there this dirt for fifteen years. I think it has to be but but on on on some real ship though.

I think that you know, if this word had happened, man, it would have to be you know, different things in place. You know, it can't just be a cast thing. It has to be an educational component, a healthcare component. You know what I'm saying, all these things so that I just want to I'm gonna tell you why I want

to cast component a component. Court. They're gonna get us, you know, how to you know how they do this so just cast us out and then me and you and Still and Charlie Mane and people like us could take care of our community. That's cool, But I want more than that. What about healthcare? Free healthcare? You know we did, we did, We take it and we create our own economy of free healthcare because we're gonna do a better job. If we allow them to create some

sense of economy, they're gonna fuck it up. And you you aught them like some tussor ship. So you're thinking like, not is bad because I don't want to. I'm just saying that way. I know it's right. If that's not bad, it's don't be right if you try to create your own ecosis. I get it. I get like I just you know, I know how they get down. I want us if we if it's financial literacy, we should teach it because we know it to have money and be brothers.

Whoever needs to do with whoever does it. I think it's got to be the healthcare, the health care, it's got to be you know what I'm saying, education, binancial literacy, it's got to be the gamut. It's got to be the whole thing in order to move the culture forward. Yeah, fourty six point eight million black people in this country, right, forty six point eight million black people in this country. Now,

let me ask you this, Jake. What if they say it okay in the Georgia, in Texas and California, UM, Oklahoma, wherever, right, wherever there's a big, huge land, man said, a lot of available land. Right. What if they said, you, guys, we're gonna give you X amount of dollars, right, and we're gonna pay this money out over five years or whatever. And on top of that, we're gonna give you guys laying to be able to go like almost like they

deal with the Indian people. What if they said, we're gonna give you guys, um a thousandmakers in Atlanta, thousandmakers in California first off, Like, so so the Indian reparations, all my Indian partners, you know, I mean, they don't like I think people from the outside look at it like it's dope. Everybody got talked to an inside be like, man, it's some bullshit. It's horrible, And that's what they all say to me. They'd be like, Yo, it's a bullshit.

It ain't it ain't right. So I mean, but I do think they do the right thing within their community, and I think that's the catch like, so whatever, that depends on the tribe. But I'm talking tribes, right, and they all feel like, because I got a partner who get five thousand dollars a month just for being alive, just for being alive, right, because he was part of one of the tribes, that's earning. Right. But I'm just saying he liked even that is not worth it. I mean,

it's it's it's components. They feel it's not just so I realized, like, you know, we have to if they gave us land. The reality is, no matter what happens, this is not gonna happen. We know it's not gonn happen, but hypothetically, and what our responsibility should be is to make sure, you know, is to make sure that we provide those components for our community, because if we don't, we know how they're gonna do it. So we have not provided ourselves. I agree. I'm I'm curious, Peter, what's

your take on it. I'm curious to see that other you don't want to pay no reparation. It depends on how it's executed and how it's calculated. Yeah, um, you know you just said that the most widest way possible. It depends on how it's executed. And that's the truth. I mean what they said, Pete. What if they said, because right there was like you have to pay an extra two hundred dollars a month in Texas. We're ain't gonna do that, probably anyway, but we know you're not

gonna do it. Well, no, we're I'll they'll find a way for me to pay for twenty dollars a month. I'm not gonna do but I'm that's how it really ultimately is gonna shake out of me. The thing is you have to, you know, the the parallel, I'm sorry, using the government as the parasite, and the parallel. You can't have the parasite kill the host, you know. So if you like Steele says he wants to give out ninety two trillion dollars in a lump sum, that's the

parasite killing the host. You're not even giving out night a two trillion dollars at that point. You're giving out small fraction of that because you've debased the currency so far that the value in what you're giving people is not even the same as it states on paper, So you have to be conscious of that. And when I say it depends on how you calculate it, it's you know,

there's two senses. I mean you could say, Okay, well we're gonna try to calculate it based off of like a retribution standard, based off of a modern day wages standard, or based off of whatever else. So it that's on how you want to look at it. I think let me ask you one more question, Pete. And this is a it's probably a question I could get you in trouble or make you look like a genius. Um, you're

you're a financial guy, right, You're you're into finances. What should black people ask for when it comes to reparation? Like what type of compensation? If it's not because I agree with you from the economic standpoint of this currency, if you give away too much money, you devalue the currency. Yeah, we're seeing that right now. Um. I think the answer is really like some kind of whatever is the most like regenerable, you know, to take a step back and

look at some sort of sectors or accesses. I mean you could you could say, I mean, like it's using the native American example, they get pigeon ship money in some land, but they get the shittiest land you can possibly find that in any region that they could stick

him on. We'll say, okay, well, all right, well there's more federal land in the Western United States, and there should ever otherwise be I wouldn't have an issue with saying, okay, great, you can have autonomous land of a similar situation, and we're not gonna provide a whole list of things on that land, but you can do what the fun you want. You know, we're not We're not gonna police it. We're not gonna We're gonna if crime disseiminates out from it,

will police that. If you want to do whatever with energy, if somebody strikes oil on it, you're oil. If you guys wanna bill a casino, do whatever, whatever the fun you want to want to grow, grow, grow poppy flowers and grind heroin. Do whatever you want to do. If people can cut yeah whatever, if you as If you guys want to create cocaine greenhouses, then do it and people can come in with their passport, white people from the US to go I want to snore to line.

And you could say, great, we got a greenhouse for coca leaf back in the back of charge your nose up or whatever the funk you guys want to do. But but something where you can have a regenerable you know, revenue system to post one office expires a whale of resources. Mhm like Morono casino. Yeah, okay, I'm not against that because that's what I was saying the court, Like, that's what I was saying the brother court. I'm saying, like I want us to be respond I don't want them

because obviously we're not da for me. If we have to do it, you know, God, wouldn't we do right by our people. That's that's our responsibility. I just yeah, that's what I was. You guys opened amsterdamn and you guys got thing. You have free gambling, free drugs and free holes. You'll be fine, like like like under wire, we can call it Hamster damn. Yeah. I think you'd be fine. And I think people will pay a premium

to enter that space. They do that right now. They go to Marongo, they go to put Changa, man, they go up there. That money. If we created a space like that, man, it be fluttered with so many white folks that ain'ty funny things that mother again like like like like Black Wall Street, Tussas, they just want Vegas out of business, jay Zina gonna come up with their

own Vegas. Let me ask you, guys this fellas. Now, in lieu of the conversation, in lieu of monetary conversation from that thing, what if someone said, Okay, we're going to hurting you from paying Texas for the rest of your life and give you and give you two agears of land each person. I would take that people of black people deal that screws ninety percent of black people, I agree, but this is a deal for me, But

that would be good. I would be cool with that because no taxes, no Texas and two acres of land anywhere I want that man, that would be cool. I ain't gonna be anywhere. You won't though, ain't Americans don't even pay a net tax. And if you don't have any money, you don't pay any taxes. And if you don't have any money, two acres of land isn't worth Dick because you can't afford to putting the equipment on. I agree with Peter on now. I think we should

nominate Peter as a chairman of Reparations. I agree with Peter Peter how to school to the white folks because he just can't help you. You gotta get them better at the deal. Plus, Peter is low key one of us. You know what I'm saying. He's the old Peter is a real white man that's not scared to be a white girl too much pressure. Peter is the white What I love about Peter Peter don't second Jove for us. He don't try to act like he down. He don't

try to change his name. He ain't no wigger. Peter is a white man that's like this is what it is on the specter because he said most America, Peg, you could be hard. Yeah you know what I mean. Hold, you know you're the real white Pete, not like you Pete for real. I was a white Pete before white Peter. Yeah. Yeah, well you know what. Like, Honestly, I think the package that I deal package will be a combination of land, money and some texts break some textings center, you know what.

I think we need to sit and have another podcast with Peter and let him come up with a financial plan that will create a well of resources for us. I think we need to have Peter come up with this and do another podcast and see what Pete come up with, and we discuss it and come to a conclusion right here on against the chronicles, and then we figured out and work it out and then submit the package and we'll give Peter like point five per cent of whatever we negotiate. If it's just California, I can

solve the problem right now. Hold up, No, we gotta do a whole another part. You gotta think about this, so we do another podcast. It come, what is it? What is it? California has as a state two major crisis, has a lack of energy, it has a lack of water. They don't the EPA doesn't want to grant UM, you know, the necessary rights to be able to get those things.

UM at the very least say okay, we're gonna provide either exclusive contracts to black people an exception or or total revenue from um sal de water salonization plants where you could basically irrigate the entire Central Valley from desalinized water from the Pacific Ocean and you can get on pent of the money from that if you're California and you're black, or something similar along with fossil fuels and and get per kill a water hour to black Americans

for that, and then it helps the state of California and then you guys get all the proceeds. Sounds like that's what happened in Atlanta. I don't know about at that quick, but that's what happened. Amount they contracted a lot of the business. They had to contract a lot of like it was a certain business. Killer Mike was telling me about it, and it was dope, and they had they contracted a lot of black contractors who hired black people and that created that economy for black folks.

I like that, Pete, we gonna get into that deeper. That's what we should have done. We should have called Killer Mike and had him come on this podcast. Right, you're gonna talk about things. I'm pretty sure we should do this next podcast about what Peter is saying and have Killer Mike on that podcast to talk about this,

because Killer Mike understands how to make that work. He studied how they did that in Atlanta, and we could really start that and proposed for sure, for sure, this is how this because I know at last count, we had a bunch of subscribers on here still. So that's how stuff gets into power. When you start really thinking

of the plan, you can submit that plan. Because it seems like these people on this panel, now, this little tribunity they put together for this, it's a whole bunch of old ass people that have no clue on what they're talking about. I mean that's why they put them together. So they have no idea and they gets nowhere. But if we have Pete and we have a good idea, a good plan, we're what we're talking about. Yeah, we're getting up there. I don't know who y'all doing that

work round. I don't feel like old man, the oldest. I think I'm the second oldest on here. So ship I feel like I've been alive for a thousand years. Say, I feel like I've been living. I didn't live. I didn't live fast life two times. I don't know what the fun is going on. I had my first child at sixteen, so I feel old. Let me ask you this, y'all. Ever notice but old people, when it's really time for them to die, they'd be really ready to go. You'd be praying for my stuff and they'd be like, just

let me go. Let me go on. Really old people do have a way of kind of like, I'm like, let me go about my business. I remember when my grandmother was on her deathband man all my aunts round and singing and praying. That woman woke up like this and said, well, y'all, let me go and get out. Let me go. And she looks so peacefully dog, and she said, let me make my section way. They're singing her back. Many she's going to heaven. They singing her back.

They keep in the bag. Shut the funk up. When I tell you, she Mozella really woke up like this after bed that was her name. Can come crawling. They crawling. Good to see you from out. She was crawling like you know when they're taking lights. They try to stop like you can't see him crawling and stuff. I'm like, what it was wrong with her? But the thing was just like this, bro, She woke up and said, let

me go. Why do y'all keep calling me back? Like you know, I can see her just floating in the air. And dude, get the snatched down because they're singing and she's singing them damn songs. Oh hell, keep bringing her back. She probably shut the funk up. I do think it's a time when when you get so old where you like, I'm gonna tell you this. Me and my wife always

talk about this. I love my children to death, but sometimes I look at my friends that don't let have kids to be like y'all some smart motherfucker's because my dad got all them kids, right. My dad was the biggest proponent and like, don't have kids. He's like, don't have kids. I was like that, why would you say? You all these kids? He's like, that's why, I know, because you can't turn off the worry button. You can't

turn the button off. It's like dog and my wife don't make it no better because she got apps on their cars and stuff and she can see when they're moving around and she lugs me. You should call Christopher him tell him this. Why do I have to call Christians a grown as man? You know what? My barber made the most sense ever out of having kids to me, like, people have not been able. You don't normal the normal thing.

You know. Don't you want to leave yourself? You know you don't you want to leave a little piece of yourself? Like I don't think I'm that special. The way I just need to leave a little piece of myself, Like the world is not gonna be at the turn because I have a little piece of glasses ain't around. I just never was that arrogant to believe that. But my barber, you know, who was a white man, had the greatest point ever. And I always said, people have kids for

the most selfish reason. If you listen to people have kids, they'll be like, oh, I just wanted to you know, we want to bring a product of our love, or yeah, I just want to see a little me. It's always personal. And he was the first one that was honest. Somebody said, man, glasses. He said, you know what, I give you one reason to have kids. I said why? He said, who gonna take care of you when you get older? I was like, yeah, that could be true. That actually made sense. But I'm

sure Pete has figured that out. So what would I do Pete want? You said? The white dude said that, Yes, all I heard was you have a white barber, and then my eyes rolling back of my head. But my barbera Mexican. White people can do some pretty good things. Berican. He's the only want to say, he's my beer? Right, then do my hair right right, and I ain't gonna dog. I can't afford to go to black barbers right now. Like, man, I'm like get my beer done and my ball here

ball like with the thing. It's a hundred dollars if I go to Brothers barb my ship ninety dollars every week because he operated up my own hair for eighteen years. That's just number one. You guys got number one guard. You just go over like this, No, man, I start with five and then you know, drop it down till one beer. No, my hair just kind of girls like that. It's too short. Man, I'm the year. Yeah, about a year on hair. Yeah yeah. I ran the math on

how much my miserable heads ship saved me. I figured I can't look good anyway, I might as save the money. So glasses, what data is um? What day do we drop? What day did you guys drop? On No Silman's podcast, every wee Sunday morning was supposed to be every Tuesday morning,

but we're back to Wednesday morning anyway. Back. I knew I told Dullian if I said, glass is gonna change this time and let's gonna wind up being the day after something like that, I mean, I just think that the Wednesdays are for the West coast, West coast, you know, you know, and my boy Court, what days you drop Holding Court podcast? Every day? We drop segments every day, every single day of the week, every single day the year. Audio yep audio. Um, we're talking about real podcast. I

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