EP 142: 6 year old handcuffed and arrested, are we becoming a prison planet?

and followers of the show. Even though you know we might go through personal things or mishaps or whatever with the families, we all we gotta you know, we gotta recognize who got us to this point of having this platform, and that's always the fans first. So shout out to all the people who stuck in sticking in there and hanging with the Gangster Chronicles. You know what it is, Yeah, for sure, and we also gonna be bringing more. You know, I was talking to James eight and I said, Man,

I'm tired of talking about Cookie from the Block. I'm tired of talking about the homie that might have sold a ton of yea back in eight. That's not important, right, that's not important. I want to say this, man, because y'all was on it and I didn't get my what's called. You know, I get a lot of emails and messengers ship on messenger and all that ship from a lot of people, man, that that support James. And I appreciate everybody that supports me. And it's some it's some real

some real cats. So much ship that you know, get at me and holler at me and just keep a pushing. So you know, I just want to say, like, yo, man, you know, I appreciate everybody. I am on a different path. I ain't on that bullshit and I'm just trying to move on. Man, I got like to take care of not my life, but well my life too. But my grandson. And I'm thinking my granddaughter want to come. She gonna be fifteen. I'm kind of scared out when fifteen years old.

Uh man, you haven't been through them orders already. Eight You got an older already, right, yeah, I got two older daughters. Man, you just gotta you just gotta know they interest you know what I'm saying, stay on top of them, you know, because you know they are little young females, young ladies, and you know the boys and whatever.

So you know, unfortunately like the young the young boys, you know, we just gotta stay on the ladies, you know what I'm saying, because they're just different, you know what I'm saying. Cater to their needs a little bit. You know, it's different than a boy. They're a little sensitive to stuff. You know, hair, what kind of clothes they lock in, you know, all that type of stuff. So it's a little and death. You know, you give boys some jeans, some nice kicks, and a T shirt.

He ready to row. Young ladies are different, you know what I'm saying. They're real particular about their hair, they make up, you know what I'm saying, the shoes, they wear everything. Man, So you just gotta be a little more attentive to their need, you know what I'm saying. And you got a fifteen year old wings names, and you forgot about the nails. That's my granddaughter. But you know, I still raise my daughter and and and I agree

with what you're saying. But I think I made a mistake letting her go back to her mom's when her mom's got out of prison. You feel me, I had her, she was with me, she was cool. It wouldn't know none of that my boyfriend and all of this ship. When I allowed her to go back to her mom's, back to her mama neighborhood. That's when my daughter got loose. And I'm gonna ask you, hey, do you think you was uh too strict on your daughters? Because I think I was too strict. And then when I let her

go back to her mama, she just got loose. Her mama wasn't firm like I was. I think I was. I think I was more. I think I'm more strict on my son than I wasn't on my daughters. I mean, especially because with my older daughter, you know, um, like I said, you showed that interest, and you showed that you want to be that father figure. Then hopefully they make the right choices when they started turning seventeen eighteen nineteen.

So but you know, but with my my my middle daughter, you know, me and her mama didn't get along too good. So at the end, so you know, I had my daughter for a couple of I have my daughter for about you know, the first three or four years, and then like you said, she went back to her mom's in Texas, you know, and you know a couple of situations. You know, Uh, did we have a strong bond, you know, not really because of the movement. So, like I said,

just being attentive. You know the phone calls, you know, you know me traveling all the time, man, it was it was valuable man, when I wasn't around, you know, you know it was speaking of daughters. James has sent me something my attention, man. Um, it's a the lady Kyle Roll. They actually have a kaya role acting. It's a law that bands the arrest of kids younger than seven. And I was thinking when I saw this, who would

want to arrest a seven year old child? Right? You know it was interesting to me because you know, and I was telling you the same this this earlier norm. You know, when the police interact with with with with blacks, they treat the blacks different. Now, I haven't seen a lot of boys at a young age, even myself be handcuffed at fourteen thirteen, you know what I'm saying. And they are a little rough with you. They pop you

on the head. This when they was using at batime, swell, hitting you with the stick, that billy club and all that ship. Um, I've seen this little twelve year old boy they had him handcuffed, he crying and all this other ship. Just like the little girl, Dude, they handle blacks different than they had all the white kids. I would say definitely. So I think they see it's more of a more of a more of a threat. I think that. Well, but listen to this. I'm gonna read

this to you guys. Right In two thousand and nineteen, then six year old Kaya Rode was led away from her school, crying and begging with her hands were straight behind her back and zip tized by two Orlando Police Department officers. The arresting officers, Dennis Turner, was fired. Her grandmother, Marilyn Kirkland, says that experienced haunts Rode to this day.

In the morning, sometimes driving her to school, if there's a police card coming behind us with the light zone, she would be like, they're coming for me, and I'll be like, no, they're not coming for you. And then when they passed, she'd be like, are they going to my school? Are they going to arrest my friends? Rood says that it was so scary that she was not want to happen to anyone else. You know, you think about this, um, we have a girl that six years

old at the time right in with country. I don't even think they do that in nice countries. They're supposed to be third world countries who arrested six year old child eight? It is totally different than what goes on around here. But you know, hey, think about this, this happening or Lando, Florida. Dog, I'm about talking about the third world countries. They don't even do that over there, even with all the laws they have. They don't put

no look keys, no handcuffs. Six years old. What they say the kid did at six years old that they needed to put in the handcuffs. Well, you know what, let me show you. I'm gonna find it, right, and I'm a reader a whole case, right, that's crazy. Six year old got a case? Yeah, I need to know what the charges was. You know what's the charge? Six year old? Hey, I'm gonna tell you this. You know

what she was arrested for. Kayya Row was six years old when she was arrested at school and two thousand nineteen at the throwing a temper tantrum, a temper talum, a temper tantrum. Ain't that was six years old? Ain't that was six year olds? Don't they have temper tantrums? They act out right, right? But why would you put her on zip tized though at six is old that that that. Come on, man, that's not cool. You wouldn't want nobody to put your child. And where these cops

got to be fired? Right? Oh yeah, they fired? Well because that's poor judgment. I mean, I don't give it. I don't give a damn. Like I said, you law enforcement, you you have to be able to have better judgment, especially when they come to the to the adolescent a child. Come on, man, that's ridiculous. Okay, I'm gonna read. I'm gonna read the whole thing that happened, all right. First of all, this little girl, she's a little girl, and she already had some problems, right, you know, she already

has some issues. So what happened on September nineteen, from two thousand nineteen, cod Big the school resource officer for a second chance as her tiny risks were zip tied and she was the scorted out of Lucia's and Emma Nix and the academy. Kyle was taking it to custody off she reportedly through a timber tantrum that Kirkland told Inside it was tricker because of her sleep at a condition curtainly said the school was well aware of and makes her irritable. During the day after the arrest, Kind

developed extreme separation anxiety. Her grandmother told inside her she would wake up screaming with night terrors and whet her bid until she had to move into her grandmother's from to finally fall asleep. So we have a situation about it. Six year old girl. I'm just thinking about that in my head right, a six year old being lit out of school for throwing a temperatanim That's what they do. That's what they do. Eight that's what Lione'll do an exams. Yeah,

you go to be able to control the kids. It's not even I mean, you don't control them by handcuffing them and then walking them out of school. And all the other kids see this. Now, their little kid is traumatized because authority as a mother the most and to be six years old and and handcuffed by police officers and escorted and put in a police car. Man, that

traumatized that kid. So I mean, I think, like you said, hey, I mean, they gotta have a better judgment on certain arrest or who they're dealing with at the time, because no kids should be handcuffed. Well, well, you know what in the fifth I guess she reportedly punched and kick school staff during the tantrum. Now you know she was in there punching on people and kicking on people you call a parance and sending their home for the day.

You don't get her putting handcuffs. Look, I was then in the fourth grade and I sucked my school teacher Ms. Wyrey. Bust their nose Stephen C. Foster Elementary, and I bust their nose. She was taking me to the principal office. I was acting. I was out of controlling class. So she taking me to the principal office. And it's posed as we're walking down the hallway, so we we I went this way, she went that way. I landed into

the pole. I was so mad. I'm crying and and she grabbed me and I sucked her so I bust her nose. Now and I'm I'm at the principal office. This is when they used to paddle you and Mr Ray thought he was spen a paddle me. I wouldn't happen that. So what happened is my father. They kept me there until my father came and he whooped the ship out of me in front of the both of them. You know what I'm saying. You don't think they could have called her parents, her grandmama, somebody to come and

control her. Yeah, you know what the problem was, man, And we're going back to that. And I wanted to get you all kind of opinion. I want to take a fold. We all come from that area where we went to school, and we got paddled. If we were sucking up, right, we were messing up, we got paddle we got swatted. And I had a principal name, Miss Spirit. She had holes in her paddle. You know, she had little holes drilled her paddles. She had the wood shop

from dude drill some little hole in her paddles. So I guess that stuff gave you a little sunch or such and or whatever when I when I hit that ass or whatever. You know what I'm saying. We got that back in the day. We got we got what with switches, dog, we got beat with belts and everything else. Nowadays it's just so different. I almost wonder, you know this guy now, this guy to the rest of her. He took her to school, and I guess she was in that cutting up pretty bad. She wasn't just on

the regularly just temper tantum stuff. She was throwing stuff, punching people or whatever at that point. Now, I maybe a lot of people may disagree with me on this, but she probably could have been restrained. It's not hard to restrain a six year old. No, it's not. It's not hard to restrain the six year old. You're cutting up. I'm gonna six year with a chair. Now. The thing is, if they put the zip ties on her loosely to just keep her hands from prom hitting people, you sit

her down and you call her grandmother. Because the thing is, they said, this girl when it took mud shots and everything, Hey, she had to step up on the steps through to take her mug shots. My th is well she charged with something. Well, she was initially charged with misdemean the battery. But what they did was once they charged with the misdeme the battery, once the DA saw the case, he threw that ship out of there. He was like, man,

we're not arrested six year olds now. Like so he experienced the record and everything, and the officer got fired because they said what he should have done was he should have called a supervisor before he did that. That's not new. He should have called a supervisor or the school should have called the parents. When you it's six years old, you called the mom or daddy and say, hey,

little little fucker is fucking up today. And they're being real, motherfucking you know, they're talking ship, they throw in you know, they're being real. We need you to come down to the school now. You don't call the fucking police where you know exactly. And my wife is an education man, and she tells me, you know, my wife is a lone beach. So the little dudes down they're kind of bad.

She told me the stories about some of them kids. Man, James, When I tell you if all of those kids and my wife's class and like line all times team they do stuff to make line them look like a saint. Yeah, yeah, I know. I was one of them. You know. She tells me, man, about this one little boy she used to have in her class, right, he used to cut up.

He's just really cut have called the teachers, you know, calling people bitches and stuff like like what that big is looking at there's a little dude in her class. I can't say his name, you know. The crowds of stuff. But he would be in class saying like what this bitch looking at lot'll do? Five years old? You know? You know what I'm saying. So some of these dudes are off the chain, man, Well, you know that comes

that comes from the environment and the home. That's all that now, But when you deal it with the police, and if the police is called in, the police should know how to handle how to restrain a child. Now, some of these little boys, you might have to go a little further than a six year old kid a girl. Now, you know, you don't just cheat this case happening, but it happens all over, you know what I'm saying. I've watched the video with an old lady. You know, she

driving and police behind her, got the sirens on. She pulls over, so the police officer was mad at her. This is the the seventies of year old woman. Do you take her to snatch her out the car by her her herd shoulder and throw her on the ground and handcuffle this is an old lady. Well, you know, so they're taking old ladies and just they just dog with them out right, just just wrong. You don't have to

handle him like that. Now, if you get the ones that want to swing on you and do all this other ship, come on, you gotta you gotta right to defend yourself. Every police officer do. But when you just snatch a woman out of her card, you know she an old lady and the chin and uh you kind in the truck by herself, you don't just go up and she's saying, what did I do? What did I do wrong? What I didn't see you? And he opens the door and snatched her out. Yeah, that's fine, man.

If that have been my grandma, DUDEO have kind of asked one a lot of people and we would have would have been mad. But what I'm saying, how do you think they would feel if they saw a black man snatching name mama, knowing she old and throwing her on the ground. Well, James, it's unfortunate to say man. You know, even though we in two thousand's going through it's unfortunate to say, man. As black men, we are very menacing and threatening to a lot of people if

they see us. Hey, do you still get those looks when you walk in the store, like the person looking at you. You can have a couple of you can have thirty thousand illars worth of jewelry on those people in the store will be looking at you like you're about to come to rob them, you know. So a lot of people are intimidated by us, a lot of people, you know, especially with me. I'm a big six ft four,

two nine pound black man. So I really have to, um, I really have to go watch the way I carry myself so to speak, you know, because it could be a message six ways to just over misunderstanding. We already you gotta you gotta be able to uh you know. That's the way, like I said, she was brought up, especially in the environment you grow up being motherfucker's always go on a racial profile or do some bullshit like that. You feel me. Yeah, So I'm gonna show this video

and I'm gonna show this clip man from CNN. Let this little girl getting arrested in Orlando, Florida. In the school set, KaiA had started hitting the school's assistant principal and screaming after being told that she couldn't wear her sunglasses in the classroom. I finally say that Kaya was experiencing side effects of sleep app near, a diagnosis they'd shared with the school The first grader ended up being taken to the principal's office and later charged with misdemeanor battery,

a criminal offense. At the time of Kaya's arrest, Florida had no minimum age, more meeting children of all ages eligible for arrest by law enforcement officers at school. Kaya as a six year old with her breastlet. She was handcuffed behind her back and the only reason that she was handcuffed with siptizes because the officer said that he

didn't have handcuffed small enough to fit her risk. Kaya was so sure he had to go and find a footstore for her to stand the bonb so that she would be at the appropriate height level for him to take her mug shot. I was really scared, interfused. I was like, what, why are those police officers for me? The number of reported Lauren was meant in Florida schools

nearly doubled the year before cay Is arrest. I know you want to don't give me one man, look at that they're putting the handcuffs and looked at you right there, may you seem putting handcuffs on six year old stackers? You know almost news man, I don't see enough of that ship. Man. You know what? Man, Now, this is what I'm saying. Did y'all see that? Yeah, that's crazy right there. You know, for the people out there, you probably couldn't see this stuff. And I'll put some links

in our description. But they had a series of things. So I guess that's not just a that's just not a one time incident. I guess they've been putting a little little kids. You heard what they said. They got no age limits. So if they feel like, fuck it, we're gonna handcuff now, I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask you this, James, because Lionel, he's active. I don't want

to call the kids bad. He's act. Man, if you get a call from the school and they tell you that you need to go pickline with up, bail him out, first of all, you might being shocked. You mean picking him up right now? Why we need you to go bail him up. We've taken him before they even call you. We've taken your son from the juvenile. You bring something to juvenile and he's six years old. What would be your first simples? Well, first you gotta be I would be mad, But these days you can't be mad in

act like that. Then the first day they're gonna say is that this is why he is in the juvenile hall system. So you gotta go in there month with some sense because I've been there. I've had my parents come to lost for dreams many many times to give me. You know, I can vounce for you there there my damn self. So you know how it is, you know,

and rolling up out that. But you know today you gotta go in there and and talk like you got a little sense, and then you know the questions that you asked, is you know why you didn't call me first? You know what I'm saying. He only six years old. I just tied him. But today they stop you from whooping your kids. Are you all go to jail? You know what I'm saying. So you gotta you gotta just time of jail, kid a certain kind of way these days.

You see what I'm saying. Did you guys think that's part of the problem, because see, I'm gonna tell you one thing where we had in society. We're in a very lategious society, meaning that everybody is quick to file a lawsuit, everybody is quick to coming trip. Oh my kid, did this. Some kids are bad. Some of these dudes are bad. They need to be disciplined. But I still say that six years old. I think even ten years old is too young to be putting the handcuffs and

drug out the school and took the jail. Not ten, not ten, because at ten you could be a pretty bad motherfucker. You know what, A teen? You know what, James, I stay depending on the situation, because you're right at ten years old. And look, dude, I know is just ten year olds and ten years old got guns. I've seen ten year olds, so you have to be careful with them. But I think we're creating with our schools. Man,

all we doing earth. If you look at the average public school today, it looks like we're going to a prison. They have metal detectors going in, they got police walking up and down the hall. So are we getting our children prepared? Because this is what goes on in black and Mexican schools. You don't see this ship in Orange County or these other areas. Well, come on, let's give you one hund and and and l a in California. Period.

You gotta have some schools. You gotta have that ship because you've got sixteen fifteen year olds carrying pistols and their backpacks ready for whatever happens after schools. And and this is why you gotta have those metal detectives. You got these kids going to the school feeling a certain kind of way about that bully and tied and they they're gonna shoot you. They know what's happening. They know

what's happening after school. James. Yeah, so I think I think our kids create this image of our schools looking like a prison because of the ship that goes home. Now, if you take the police from there, now they're more comfortable with carrying their guns, acting a certain kind of way and kicking to them that football feels smoking weeds under the bleaching. You know what I'm saying exactly. See, I don't necessarily have a problem James, with the police

being in school, because it can be dangerous. Bro, you know you can answer, You've got kids down off there, there's knocking people down. Let's let's let's be real about it. You've got kids in the hood, there's knocking, knocking growing people down. Right. I had a big army man. I had a homeboy man. Not big, but I had a homeboy man that stayed off the Western he got shot, and you know I hadn't seen him in a couple of months. I said, well you think, he said, Man,

I was in hospital. I got shot. I see how you get shot? He said, Man, some little dudes rolled up on him on some ten speeds and just start dumping them. He was coming from the liquor store. He wanted to buy him a beer to look through his road past when they just got the popping at him and laugh matal it went on about their business. Hey, you know, I can't sit here and be a hypocrite and say they filed and all of this, because this is the life we live. We was like that once

upun a time. But and and you know, just just being out there like that, you already know what they're about. But they're more buck wild than they than it was way back then. They way buck wow. But you know, some of the ship we need because if we didn't have this, we wouldn't have no control. You know what I'm saying, just because of of the way our current situation is in California. How we getting down in the

streets today? Now, let me ask you all this. So they've passed a law that that there's an aid's limited to you know, arrest. Right now, let me ask you guys this, what about a situation, because see, I'm gonna tell you, I truly believe that these kids are more advanced than we were. You know, at five and six years old, they have access to more in technology, and I'm pretty sure these kids actually had They have video games, they have guns in them now, so a lot of

these little dudes already know how to shoot. So, now, what did you do in an instance that little Tyrone don't took his pops pistol that he saw, you know, because he even looking at We think we hide ship from our kids, but they very observed. What do we do when little Tyrone take popas pistol to school with him and he says, you know what, this nickets stold my capre son yesterday. I'm gonna get with his program when I get to school today. So I'm taking the

pistol because they have more to sensitize the violence. You gotta understand, they have video games now, they have all these games that where they're smoking people all day. So and as much as a shock at today system to actually shoot somebody, what do we do in those situations that were a little type rong stand up from the class, He pulled a strength a by the thing and says, okay, I'm smoking somebody, what do you do in that situation? Well, I think that situation in my opinion, because I can't

speak for everybody's situation. But like I said, I grew up in the hood. U. My mentality was different at that age as to oppose to my son who grew up. You feel me was not the type that would be piste off because the nigga stole something from me and I would take a heat or the school probably if I had that access. Um, that's because of what I had to deal with. You get me opposing gangs at school, motherfucker's who just don't like you as a kid, You get me. Uh it just it was just that that

that situation. But I would hope that me raising my son in a different light, knowing, man, this is a motherfucking ten year old who will come to school with a pistol and shoot you over some bullshit. Now I know that type of situation, so I would try to I'm trying to raise my son differently to where he won't feel like I gotta go take a gun to school and smoke a nigger because he stole my football,

You get me. Yeah. I think it has to do with the mentality of how the kid and what he has seen, what he has to go through that would have that mentality like a nigga stole my capri son, I'm gonna take this dude ducee to school and Papa nigger. That's a hopeful. That's a that's a whole different mentality as a child, and that's a rough life. I think that the kid is going through. Yeah, let me ask you this, James, wait a minute, let me, let me, let me elaborate and saying do you even say something?

Let me pull the color off of that, because I'm not just speaking on black kids, because it's some crazy g ass motherfucking white kids who grow up suffering and mental to where they feel like, motherfucker, I'm going to school today because of motherfucker keep teasing me or saying I got glasses on all my clothes as fucked up, So now I'm gonna just smoked the whole school. Right. I went to the same ship when we first moved

to Compton, I went to school. Mom's jam sun us in school and the boys thought they was gonna jump me. I left school, game home, got two bunch of eights, and went back to school, and when I seen him, it was recess time. I started taking with the night. So when your kid is thinking like that, there's nothing you can do because you have worked. You ain't there. You ain't You ain't aware that he's going through something

or went through something, you know what I'm saying. So if I kill somebody then stabbed the ship out of him, then that's on my mom and pops. But then I'm you know, I'm I'm gonna go to jail like I did. You know what I'm saying at that age, and it's just too fucking late to do anything about it. So when you see all of this ship happening now today in these schools, what's the thing to do? Oh my, all my pistols got locks on them. You know what I'm saying. My grand baby ain't feel to touch nothing

that he can do anything with. You see what I'm saying. So we just gotta be prepared at home for that type of time because our kids ain't. I'm at home telling us I'm tired of being teased, they jumping me and taking my lunch money. Yeah, I and and and that's unfortunate for any kid to have to go through the bullying or you know, the the other gang ship or whatever. Like you said, James, Um, I had to go to school with the butcher, notedge and chase the motherfucker.

It's unfortunate that children have to go through those and they can't just be kids, you know, because I feared that as a father myself, growing up, having a you know, a young son, not knowing you know, not knowing the mentality of your kind of your of your child at at as he's three or four or five years old. Uh, is he gonna be one of the kids that get pumped at school? Or is he one of the kids who are gonna be throwing the pump? Hid you get me? And I think I used to always and still in

my son that he had a dad around. You feel me my kids, or don't don't. Don't think I used to tell him. I I am stilled in Karen that don't let nobody funk with you. You got dad, So don't feel that you have to go through ship or be pumped by kids or harassed or whatever, because in a second I'll be pulling up to the school and

I don't give this. So that's what I kept stealing in him as as he grew up, and I used to ask him every day he would come home like he would be like, I don't like you know, kids, I don't want to go to school them all, or some ship like that first thing. I'd be like, somebody fucking with you? What's the deal? Because I don't feel like no kids should have to go through that type

of ship. Not that he ever went through that. My son had a fight in school and it ended up being with one of his best friends, so that was like a shake off. But I was always one of them dads who was ready in on patrol because I didn't want my son that have to go through. And even my daughter, anybody fucking with you at school, and my daughter she used to go to high school, anybody sucking with you, fucking with you at school, I'd be ready to quick to pull up because I didn't want

that to have to go through. I didn't want my kids to have to go through that. And that's when that mentality started sucking them up and they get the feeling like, oh, I need tell you need to strip the school or I'm gonna take you know now, you don't need to do that. All you gotta do is pick up the phone and call me. I'm on the way. That's right, that's real, right there, James, James, you say now. I went through it with my my oldest son, James.

He called his teacher a bit. I pulled up to his school with his ass in front of the class. I've never had to with my son again. My youngest son who his hands, then had the whoop his hands again. He gave me the fair hands and please, please, please, And I never whooked that nig again. But they both turned out college boys. My oldest son is raising my granddaughter fifteen years old. You know what I'm saying. She's gonna be fifteen and he'd been raising her from from

day one. Feel me, so, my boys, is good. What I thought I did with my daughter to keep her away from the VS. You know, I took her out to Vegas. You know, I had I had a female that was one honey with her, you know, embraced her like she was one of one of hers. She had three of her own plus two more. So we had six kids this whole time, and my daughter was cool

and school everything. You know, it prepped me out. I was there when she had her first administration, as you first went through that ship, and that's just scared me to tell he ans up and go get that girl. I don't know what to do. That's a scary thing about being a single father trying to raise a daughter, because I don't know. Without my wife, I think I'll be lost trying to raise my daughter. Because the thing about daughters and sons, it's like they all your kids

and you love them. But girls just go through different stuff. Man, girls, I love you one minute. In the next minute you go to hug them. Oh, I don't want to be bothered, but I got cramps. My stomach is hurting, you know what I'm saying. It's like they go through a phase. But they'd be looking at you sometimes like they don't like you. Yeah, and you don't know what the hell is going on in their mind. You're just like, she's not talking to me. I don't know what's going on.

But you know what, I will say, this meet ruining up on the east side of Cleveland, and sometimes I have to remember sometimes this stuff seems like, oh, that never happened back in the day, but it did happen. A lot of bad stuff happened back in the day. I remember walking to school, Man, we would find pistols sometimes, you know, the little throw away pistols. Eight, Yeah, you're fine, like I had, like at one time, Dog, I think about it now. At one time, Bro, I had like

five or six guns at the house. Never used them. But these are little guns I found. They might have had all kinds of murders on them, but my dumbass is picked them up and taking them on. I found the pistol to back. That was fascinating. That was fascinating to us as kids. You know, pistols, and you know that type of ship. You know, now we know we want to keep our kids away from that type of ship. Man something. You know what though eight and I say this, Man,

I was talking to my wife about this. We of course, all three of us have raised our kids way different than what we were raised. Oh definitely, you know what I'm saying. It's like when I had to go to school, man, My my elementary school was way on the west side. If I missed that bus, Dog, if I missed the yellow bus. Guess what I had to do. I had to get on the bus. I had to go get fifty cents. It wasn't no a mom, I missed the bus. Can you give me a ride to school? Hell? No,

you go getting the bus? Right? So I would go to school. Man, I would have to walk through sometimes these other neighborhoods that didn't like my neighborhood or whatever. I may get into a fight or whatever, but we went. Indeed, now, my kids ain't never had to walk loboard. They was always getting rides. They always had cars and stuff, you know, to go do their thing. I'm pretty sure Karan got a car. He rolling the whip now, ain'ty eight exactly?

That's what I'm saying. We didn't have the luxuries. We didn't have those luxuries. So I think we are more protective our kids. Let me ask you this. Do you think by us being so like making sure our kids grew up in these safe environments, do you think we ever hindered them? Anybody doing that? Yeah? Yeah, we passed by right. You know, when when grandmama and granddaddy are my uncle's, y'all gotta get out of the team love funk is just moving. Are you getting a job? Exactly?

These days we raised our kids said oh man, tell me do it, and then they have a baby and then they think that that responsibility is yours. No, you had that child now and I don't. Once you have a kid, I can't take care of you no more. It goes. It ain't happening. But yeah, we hinder our kids and for them to grow up and not want they kind of like like spoil you, like like like teenage anno lessons. They spoiled like kids and and yeah we do that, but we gotta show them what responsibility is.

You know, some of them get out there and handle their business, but some of them don't want to leave a nest. And sometimes that tough love is kicking them out, you know what I'm saying. But we don't do that. We pacified. You got some cats still living with their mom and their fifties. Yeah, that's crazy. You know what I call them? Baby men? Yeah day wait a minute, eight.

But at the end of the day, noring it hurts your kids because when when mama and grandmama and granddaddy, the people that's taken care of you going now you're in the streets now you lost. That's just like a nigglanda with a woman and don't pay bills. You know what I'm saying. At the end of the day, when she puts your ass out, you ain't gonna want to go moving your own ship because you don't want the responsibility of red. Yeah, that's true. Bullshit man, it's yeah, yeah.

We gotta stop uh pacifying our kids and just give it to him real, not raw in the cup, but real, you know what I'm saying, Because it's it's a dangerous world out here on the streets and we can't keep doing the way we do it. So let me ask you guys this right here. You know, with all this being said, they got this law and now of where you know, there's a limit to where you can arrest the kids and talking to talking to y'all fellas, my attitude is kind of changed versus at the beginning of

the show. I was kind of upset, upset about you know, these look kids getting the rest of the stuff. But listening to you'll do y'all think it's a need to be able to arrest the six or seven year old kid, possibly to arrest the six or seven year old child.

And I'm speaking for girls, because girls, some some girls act different, way different than a boy, and not as aggressive as a boy to to arrest a six year old child and and handcuff them, put him in the car and take them to jail and put them through that process of being detained. As a motherfucker man, a kid can't deal with that. Now, if you get her used to it, it ain't gonna matter what crimes you do,

because she's cool going to jail. I say this because I know I got my baby is until and she with the business and and it's it's sucking her up and coming home. She sucked up her day twice coming because because you know, going through that bullshit, you know, they get used to that ship just like us when we start going to jail, you get used to sitting in their motherfucking say that don't mean ship, It ain't it ain't uh rehabilitation. So why put a kid through that? Yeah?

So I think just by being a police officer, you when you're go into a situation, you should understand already I'm dealing with it such and such. I'm dealing with a child that got mental illness, I'm dealing with wolf. They should already know that and shouldn't know how to handle a situation, because all situations ain't the same, not from a six to or thirty. That's totally different. Because

little mamma was cutting up. Looking at that video, she was cutting up, But did you see how she turned right back into that little girl ain't when she was coming out, she said, no, please give me a second, Sally. Usually you can threaten a child like that with something and it would be usually scared them. I mean to physically called the police, handcuffs, go to the police station. You know that that's traumatized into a young kid. I don't care who it is. That that's just trauma because

most kids are afraid of the police anyway. Yeah, because but I'm gonna tell you what was traumatized to me is a look cute and proudly traumatized. The y'all being traumatized me was Irene coming around the corner with that extinction quarter she gotta called I was at school sucking up. That was my trauma. That was that scared me more than any principal police all for anything else. I knew

I was getting my ass when I got on. If I was in school sucking up, I knew I was getting my ask what That's what scared me more anything else. A ship when the nigger go to jail the first day, y'alla called my mama. M h. That is traumatized to that because they don't want to go to tail. But a kid is not mature enough to understand what the post she's going through. She gonna go straight into panic mode. That kid, he's gonna go, she gonna go straight into

panic mode. I mean, how bad how bad can I can? I can I p us? How bad can I hit? From a six year old date? That you have to call the police? You feel me? That's what I'm saying, because I'm gonna knock somebody out of something. You know what they should have did in this situation, man, because that little girl was actually scared. She said, please give me a second chance. Now, just a make that they had a time out room or whatever. That's it could

be a little it could be a room. Why not why not just take her to the principal's office and call her parents and say, yeah, she's she's been suspended for a couple of days or or whatever. I mean that that that the police situation, him in the jail and the handcuffs and the charge of battery. That's that's a bit extreme, and the cops should have been fired because to me, what makes a good policeman is your judgment of your situations. What you say. Now, we all

got kids right right now. If you see a little kid out there acting, if you're gonna stop and say why are you acting like this? When you're driving by and see these kids fighting at the school, you pull over and tell them why y'all fighting. Now, all these police officers, most police officers already have a family, a kid of that age six. So instead of being a police officer, be a parent, Be be somebody that got guided and then talk to that little girl calming down,

because that's all she're looking for his attention exactly. That's why I tell you have to be your judgment. Your judgment has to be differently better as a police officer. That's what I'm saying. Just going to parent mode with a child, go and see mode. See with this situation right here, hey, and you know me, looking at the police officer, you can tell the way he was talking with a little girl. He felt like a dumbass up

there to arrest of little girl. Right, to me, this falls more on that school's administration than anything else, because, first of all, y'all want the police to do you guys job now, y'all pretty much saying I don't want to deal with this little angry black girl. Come let the police deal with Well, teachers don't want to get sued. Teachers don't want to they can't probably policy that they can't here the kid because they will get sued. And

just going to the principal office. Maybe the principal didn't want to deal with it, so thinking that you see the police, he's gonna straighten up. No, this kid is acting out, this kid is having attention trouble potently, this kid, it's just she just wanted attention. And that's what I'm saying. When the police came, he should have took her in that office by herself and to talk again exactly not a police officer would have tell talked to her like a parent, like a grown up, And I think that

would have diffused the situation. That little girl would have calmed down and he had figured out something before he thought about putting handcuffs on it. Yeah, because his even though she's intimidated. Like I said, all kids at that age kind of have the fear of the police. So him just being able to talk to her and tell her that, you know, what she's doing is wrong and you know, you could go to jail for doing stuff

like this when we get older. That would have straightened her out right there there there, Yeah, you know you know what I just think ultimately, man, And it ain't know the teacher's fault. Like you guys said, teachers is worried about getting sued. They're worried about a parent possibly come to school. It's like you damned if you do, damn if you don't. Right. But but as far as the administration, you don't want to get sued for what.

That's why I'm calling you, how cause I'm calling you to tell you your child is being irate there swinging and hitting people. So you need to come up here immediately. Because for them to call the police, what did you want to do? Scare her? You really wanted them to arrest her? Like really that was the period as a parent called me and I come get my kids and maybe we're my functioning right at their school and we'll

see if we can transfer baby somewhere else. If we're going through a situation of where she's not liking the teachers and she like all off fighting them at five six years old, Yeah, we got to do something about that with the kids. But don't call the band police and get her arrested. That okay, not only not it's not only on the police. What about the teachers. Should the teachers to be uh uh uh preschool teacher or kindergarten teacher or a teacher of you know, the third

and fourth grade. Should they have uh some kind of mother and training on how to deal with a kid that acts out in class. It's step one to three. We get the principal in here to come get her out of here. You send another student to the principal officer and to get them, or you send that child to the principal. How do you do it? I mean, they should have some kind of way of diffusing the situation.

Don't think I mean you've gotta be something. I mean, you as a teacher, like you know, you know this child, you know it's not one of the or she's not one of the happy kids you know who come in to school. So we already knowing that we might have some issues with Davy because she's not a happy child coming to school. Let's be real, some of these kids as fucked up. That little boy to stole his grandma's car to go joy riding and said, I'd like to do with Luis that budd stuff with my friends and

smoke cigarettes. That look nicket was seven years old and guess what he's still sucking up to this day. This nigga dot been in so much trouble since that time he lived with his grandmother. He was living with his grandmother, the time he stole a car wreck wreck the whole bunch of cars. He said, I was kicking. He looked like a little games too, don't you eight? I said, people don't understand products of their environment. Is what happens to some of these kids. Man, they don't understand it,

and it's the opportunity that's brought. Like I said, there are things that I went through that as a kid that my son will never go through as a teenager or a young man. You feel me, because that's what happens. You're supposed to be able to guy these kids from what you went through in the situation, but unfortunately some

of us don't have that path. We might have fucked up homes, poverty, you know, fox and stuff, living in fucked up neighborhoods, the projects, being on welfare, dad in prison or dead mom's if you know, howing on prison doing whatever. Man it fox kids up and people don't understand, like, oh, why is this kid bad or whatever whatever? Because I'm a product of my environment. What do I see every day?

I see motherfucker's on the corner splaining. I see mega shooting motherfucker's I got a dad in jail for shooting somebody. I don't have no idea with my mom, Matt. That's why I'm living with grandmama. And then you know the mentality of the kid is I'm already form be on the path to destruction. What's what just by living where I'm living that eighty percent of the kids are just

like me. They ship and class, they talk, shipped to people, they fight, some of them carry guns, smoke weeds, smoke cigarettes. It's different if if we lived in you get me Newberry Springs or whatever, where all the kids are educated and everybody's parents are working and we got money and I'm eating every day and got the lady shoes and clothes, I can join sports and do all that. Ship. That mentality is gonna be way different than the motherfucker growing

up in the end of every day something. Now, not to say that all kids are a product of that, because some of them make it out, some of them stay educated, go to school. Funk that. I ain't taking that route. I'm not gonna game bang. I'm not gonna sell drugs like little brother or cousin or daddy or whatever. I'm gonna be different. Some are able. It's hard to

break that chain. Man, It's hard. Right well, you see, like time man, another feels another one, and y'all tune in with us next week, and we may even start doing a couple of shows a week, you know what I'm saying. So we kind of owe y'all the stuff, but we're checking out of here right now. Ain't you got anything to say? The folks, I'm not sure. We just worked and man, you know, like I said, all the fans, all the people, we appreciate y'all. We appreciate

y'all tuning in. You know what I'm saying. I'm still working on music for anybody who wants to know what we've been doing. I've been working on three projects, so I'm trying to get all of them out by that by this summer. So but we were working, man, So y'all tune in. Appreciate y'all, y'all keep Ryan went to Gangster Chronicles, man, and we out of here all the time. I got a lot of chick going on. I got

the U K cracking. I just had a cold conversation with a guy in the UK trying to put something together with me, and you know, I got I got a lot of chips. I want to give a shout out to my South Carolina family shots with you know, I'm trying to make it tell y'all wedding, so you know, I appreciate everybody out there. Man, I'm out much love. We out of here, sire,