Ep. 140 "The Miss Pat Interview"

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not be with us. He's in traffic, but we have them back on the next episode. You know, ideas ate out there running around the traffic and everything. But today We have a sister that wears many hats. She used to work with them sex if you out there getting the sling on her hustling work at the second to none.

Not only is she a highly respected comedian, she's a shirt topping author and record setting actress with her own TV show based on her life, and she has her own Netflix special This out now, y'all want to hear something crazy? We got miss patting the house. What's up with you? Miss pat? A lot of damn not a damn thing. Uh. I want to tell you. I was sitting up looking at your stuff and you have me laughing like like a motherfucker because you want of those

home girls like this from the neighborhood. That's just funny as a motherfucker. You can't argue, you can't do none of that, and that reminds me of you right there. That's me. You ain't gonna arguement. I can tell you probably about better shooting me. What were you and you and James get along fine? Now? I noticed you from Atlantic Georgian and what impressed me about you was that you had a shout at the age of fifteen. You went out to hit the corners and started slinging crack.

Let's talk about that a little bit. I had my first shot at fourteen, okay for fourteen and fifteen, so I'm off my bad. That makes it even more powerful, though, because look where you are today. Yeah, I just you know young. Um. I grew up in that crack empidemic, so you know, um, the streets was everything that was survival. I had two kids by mayor man and so I was too young to get a job, and he was selling drugs. And once he was a prison I started selling drugs and I think I was I think I

was a lot better edit than him. I telling this. I made way more money than he did. And um, and I did a couple of years. I did a year in prison for selling drugs. That shot a couple of times, you know, Uh, dude, the same ship everybody was doing around nineteen to early two thousands. Said you got shot a couple of times, like it was no thing.

It ain't thet it I survived. It was a thing back the Yeah I heard you said one of your little skits that the second time you glad you didn't get shot in Uniple because you didn't want to land poison in like I shot in the boo. Uh yeah, I got shot in my right breath with a forty five. So so what made you feel like you had to change your life getting shot or getting hit by a dump truck. I have fucking kids to live forward, and I didn't want my kids to go through what I

had went through. So you know, I figured, nobody really gave me a chance. I need to straighten up my cheet so I can get my kids a chaine. So that's what I did. I started, you know, looking at when I went to jail. When I went to jail for that year, Uh, it made that was the only time that was slower in my life. So it made me. Gave me an opportunity to really state down and think about the ship that I was doing. I was shocking myself while I was sitting at jail, like what the

funk is wrong with me? You know, when you surviving life passed by fans, you know, people see us being crazy or whatever. Deep down inside, all you want to do is survive, and that's what I was doing. I had two kids and dropped out of school in the eighth grade. I had to get it, and so that's what I was doing. I was into anything illegal, you could think. Yeah, so you got out, You get out of jail, and you start going on the path to pick your of life together. What was the first thing

you did? Find me a black man with a job that didn't hit a bit and on Friday. Now, now, let's talk about your husband in one second. Right. You know, you get out of jail, you doing your thing, and then at nineteen, you received custody of your sister's kids because of her drug addiction. You already got two of your kids on and you just recently married. Yeah, I have well, but yeah I got I got my sister kids that it was four kids and nineteen and he

this man didn't have any kids. So I'm nineteen. He one, and he got a bitch with six kids. People, his mama thought he was crazy. He stayed Yeah, he stayed down with you. That's the hell of a man. I'm still with him. It's almost Yeah, that's the hell of a man. That's what I'm saying. Y'all still together, And that's the power, and that's the beautiful. Ain't about the relationship.

Because you're supposed to hold each other down. Yeah, you're supposed to hold each other down and when people telling him, like, why wou't you stay with somebody who's got six kids and ain't none of them yours? Because I think we was geting, like eight years before I had my first child by him, and you know, he he just became a father to everybody. Never complained, you know, other than the first time when he told me don't get my sister kids. That was the only time he really tried

to leave. And I was like, well, I can't choose between you and these babies. And he just stayed around and help me fucking raise him. And when I became a comedian, I told him, I said, one day I'm gonna have my own show and you didn't even have to work no more. He was like, you're get your ass out of my face. So he retired about four months ago. That's a beautiful thing. Shout out to him, because we hear so much bad stuff about brothers relationships

messing up. But when I read that, I was really like, like, man, that's a good brother right there, because he really held you down, he encouraged you when he pushed you. Well, yeah, because I tell people I tell I had to tell him that too. I said, you know, when things started to take off, I said, do you understand it? I probably wouldn't be here had you not let me mess out mix out of all your critic cause take your

paycheck for fucking dreams. Because it was a dream. Who knew it was gonna end up to a TV show spacial you know, real money. I just felt like it was something there. And every time I was like he I've been playing t he was like, you ain't making no fucking money. I said, it's something here. Just just believe.

I don't know how long it's gonna take, but I'm the one day makes the money for me ship he would he would fuss, And you know, we got bills better like the bills I need to go out here and maybe two hundred dollars, but the playing ticket will see something dollar. Sometimes that's necessary in order for the dream to work. Well, they say dream teamwork made the dream work. So uh it it took. I tell you, this comic career really rock my marriage and my relationship.

I was gone all the time for the kids, and he was at home even after I had his two kids and my sister came making got her keys. He was I was never really there because I was out here trying to grind for a career, and you know, at the at the realized I was serious about it. He never really complained that's real dope, that that's real dope. You know. I think we all have those moments in our career. They kind of encouraged us to keep going on.

I remember mine was I was in the studio with Sugar Free and I did the song for him, made a beat for him, and the guy gave me a thousand dollars that night. And you know, it was just a thousand dollars. But I came home and I showed my wife because I've been going to these studios, have been making beats for people for years, and it would usually wind up somebody to take my ship and claiming themselves, you know what I mean, and I'll never getting the money,

no credit. But I brought that money home and it seemed like it was reward. I said, we are now, I said, these don't actually paid me a thought that was for beat? Now that ain't si, you know what I mean. But when they did that, What was your

moment in comedy? My moment was um when I went to go open for Cat Williams, and we had just moved to Indiana from Atlanta, and I think my husband thought I was gonna kind of quit because I was no longer in Atlanta and he failed, like I didn't have all those clubs to go to, and he thought, maybe she just gonna sent her down and let this comedy ship go. And I think about two years into living in the Indiana, he called me, I gotta. I got a call from Cat waiting to come open for him.

And I literally got paid, um, five thousand dollars a show, and I think it was at that moment, for five thousand dollars for fifteen minutes. My husband said, well, maybe some money in this ship, because that was my biggest pay they You know, I was running around opening for people six hundred all not no, not really, not no real money sometimes just breaking even. And when Cat called and I went on that that Catapocular tour, I think that's with my husband and kicked in him to save

this bitch might have a career. That's dope. So Cat Williams, he gave you that break right there. Well, he that was the first real real money that I had made. You know, I was getting like six eight hundred dollars here and they're nothing real. And you know, and that

wasn't just no one time five thousand. I think it was a fifteen city tool maybe and I was up, yeah, we had just I just talked to my husband about the house in Indiana and he swore was out of our meeting, and I'm like, look, dude, we paid six hundred four apartment. We could pay this for housing, and when the house was only like I mean, I think it was two hundred and eighty thousand dollar. At our house we moved out of, it was like a hundred

of something, I mean like seventies something. So that was like way out of his league, just one income, and he couldn't get it. And I was like, just trust me, we can do this, and cat, will you call? And we got that. We started making that money. I was able to pay for sheet in the basement and we couldn't afford and I was like, see, I told you something here and and then I just kept grinding, because

you know, ship went back to normal. After I left Kid, I started opening for d Ray, I was opening for rn s J. It was hard, you know, if you're in the industry, it's hard to get a manager in the agent. But and I just told him, I said, if you just keep supporting me, it's something here and then eventually crack. But I'm the type of person that I truely I don't start nothing with. I kind of know if something is there for me, So I try to finish everything I do, you know how, because comedy

entertainment will make you give the funk up. You gotta be wrong for entertainment, motherfucker said. You know they still from you backstaff I've been. I mean, it's the most dirt other than prostitution. It's the most dirtiest ship you

can do. I think that's every business though, like anything that's worth having because you know another thing too, because people don't look at which like if you're in the comedy, if you were in the acting, if you were in the podcast, anything, anything that's other than the regular job. People kind of look at it like, well, you can pay a lot of money, you ain't gonna do is like bullshit. This is hard than any job I've ever had. Yeah,

everything is struggle, though. Everything is a struggle. Yeah. I mean, if it if it's if you believe in it, you just you gotta keep working harder. And everybody ain't gonna understand it. Let me tell some my other to not understand this comedy ship. He did not understand it, and I was like, if you just listen to me, I'm telling you something there. And you know when the TV show came out last year and it it fucking came out, just bust out and we ended up getting the second season.

And then, um, I just told him. I said, hey, I know you've got another few years before you can retire, but you can retire earlier. He looked at me like I was fucking crazy. I'm like, dude, I got you. We're straight and you went and did it. Now, let's let's talk about the Mispatch Show because I think that's dope because it's based on your life. How did that come about? Um, Actually, it came about through a podcast.

I did uh Mark Marin podcast and back when, like many people, wasn't even in the podcast, especially in black phone. I don't think you can find a black podcast back when I was doing Mark Marion and Joe organ Fair beginning. Yeah, So, um, I did his podcast and he released it and I

was in the middle of a pitching a book. I have a book called Rabbit Autobiography and he dropped that podcast and I got like six calls to come to Hollywood, and I'm talking to different studios and stuff, and one of them was run Howard Studio UM called Imagine with

Brian Grayson. At the time, they had just it was the first season the Empire and things didn't work out, and then I ended up coming back and Lee Daniel was like, I want to give a black woman a show, and so they brought a producer hurt me on the podcast and brought me to lead Daniel And it took five years. Yes, sometimes sometimes to take five years, and you know, not not believe in those blessings from God.

I really believe in the power of prayer. And I think sometimes God to take you two things just to test your faith Canada, Yeah, and and sometimes to give you a story. Because I was like, how the hell I get to go through all of these crap and Vator laugh at I never would have thought I saw all of these stories that we're doing there on the show,

these things I've been through in life. You know, like when when like when the first season come out, they was like, what the hell this thick come come from this ship? Like, you know, like a real black mama, like a real mama they talked to. They're having a real conversation. You know, when you close your dog, you're not having no fucking cookie from the conversation. You say, what the hell you feel? And that's what we do on the Miss Pat shop. That's real, that's real. One

thing E was that now you're making money, y'all. I'm pretty sure your crib laid out. Y'all ain't struggling and everything. How do your kids react on this because they didn't have to go through the struggle that you went through. How as your kids acting? Um? I four kids, so I was said, I call the Medicaid kids and glucose blush. Your kids the Medicaid kids, so dope with me. All the dope was in their pample. Now your kids, oh, they ain't with no funkers, bruggers. They nobody stick no

thumbs or their ads. Ain't nobody pre kidnap them. They had it They had it good. You know what, most

most time parents are proud of their kids. I would say this, My kids are really proud of me, you know, especially my first thick because they know the strug that I went through as a young mom, you know, uh, dropping out in the eighth grade, trying to survive with two kids by married man, and even my second set of kids, you know, to see their mom you know, because I did a lot of neglecting to the second set of kids with this fucking comedy career thing, always

on the road. But you know, they always tell me how proud they are of me, and and they've always been the reason why I pushed so hard to get where I'm at today. It's my immediate family, so they're proud. Now let me ask you this, how is it How important is it education? Fathers being on the shame, You're having your own show and all of that. I mean, did you go back and get your education? And in between times I gonna make you out a g d

My daughter, Uh, I have a daughter. Two of my daughter went to college and mother daughter, I think she got like two three degrees. I was like, look here, no more fucking degrees. Let's go right. These shows way more money and you ain't got listen to bullishit cover. My daughter, one of my daughter is a writer on the show. Yeah, my other daughter does make up and then my mother, my son does something else. So it's a family thing around here. So you know the greatest

part about all of this. I always told my kids. You know, one thing I learned about raising kids so so hard. You can't push keys into something that they don't They don't want, and a lot of time isn't is this country say they tell you gotta go to college. I said, no, sometimes you can make just as much money with the talent is in your heart than the motherfucker who went and got a college degree. I do

what makes you happy. And you know, one of my daughter does make up that's what the fund make her happy. So I always told my kids, you don't owe me ship but the high school to plumb them because I never was. I never got one. I got a g D and all four of them graduating. So I feel like, hey, I'm complete drop out. There not criminals like me. They're not convicted feeling. I don't have no problems out of They totally opposite then the way I was raised. Yeah

it is. And that's one thing about being a convicted feeling. You know, when you were black, a female, and have a felling on your record, it's almost impossible to put together a decent life unless you're going to entertainment or sothern some other field that's outside the normal realm or doing things you know, um with your background, do you talk to a lot of other women that were in

your similar position? Not unlesstand in the comedy audience. You're probably an inspiration to a whole bunch of people that were They are presently going through the situation that you were in before. They may be young women that have chids. They maybe they may have a lot of talent, but they may figure because they got I got these kids. Now the dad ain't about ship, So I have to do this, so my life is over with. What would you tell those sisters? I mean, I tell people what

you know, man or woman. You gotta you gotta believe you gotta you gotta believe in your and nobody's gonna believe in you like you believe in yourself. So you know, nothing wrong with getting knocked down. The problem comes when you don't get up, you know. I always tell people my biggest thing out live about it. I can't dwell on ship. I don't have control over what you're crying for. Get the funk up. One of the biggest I tell

people all the time. One of the songs I listened to the most was about outcasts, get up and get get up and get out and get something. Don't lit the days of your life pass you by. You know, when you're winding about what the motherfucker did you? You wasting time? You know, time is precious. I mean, I had a friend would still be crying about somebody shot her, or still be crying about sip happened to her ten

years ago. I'm like, well, when you're gonna let that ship go and move on, you don't share your tears when this ship happened. What you're gonna do back today? Bitch? Okay, you can't just keep on letting the past hold you, damn And I don't. I don't rock like that. You know, people like you find I laugh at every fucking thing. You know, I can't. I don't give a funk how you treated me. Look at me now, you know you keep on telling me what the motherfucker did you? And

a eight? So what that ship is old? What the motherfucker did you yesterday? Is? Oh what you're gonna do today? You're gonna let yesterday him to today, not me. I'm going to get it. That's real ship right there. Ms Pat you seem like the home girl like you've seen, just like one of the home girls from around the way. Now tell me this. How much love did you get back in the hometown of Atlanta. Oh, hella loves me.

I'm on the morning show if you one on three here with Big Tigger, and it's you know, this is my city. I worked really hard to do back here and we just recently hold on, shut up, I got kids love it. You know what is the two realist people in the entertainment? Because James Green said, I'm surprised Lining brought this badass out of here year because you will be in the middle of the show. I don't care if it's shack when that motherfucker whoever Linaa come

out there and jump right to build the thing. James, if you don't take your ass back in the thing. Because James raises his grandson, I gave you just Chies just phoned back today so I can do this without him bothering me. How it is? He fine. I have a custom. I have my niece four kids, and this is my third set of kids I raised. But there it's four of them. And I've had them there for almost nine years. Be quiet. And so my kids are grown.

My youngest is twenty one. I think these kids are nine ten, in twelve and thirteen, and they were to run the next map when I told me I'm about the podcast ship fun up. So if you see me throwing ship, don't call on nobody. We don't had the moments on the show with James and throws some ship. I don't also see Lina throws some ship. James ass too though. That's the funny thing about it. Damn should try you. How important is it because they live in a good life. Now they're live in a good life.

You know how important is it for you to convey to them to still keep a little bit of that driving, hunkering them to stay young and not spoil them and making the work for stuff. How important is that? Um? You tell about these kids are my not not the ground once, but the young ones, the babies. Well, I tell them a town about the old ship, even the grounds. I tell them, I said, you you're only gonna get you get out of life what you put into life.

So you know that I will say, he's here kind of a little spar I always called even here to bless Craig babies. I said, your mother came along with un here a little bit more money, y'all, you can go to private school. Y'alln't even know Belogne the sound which but you know, I haven't really talked to them

about life of it. They're young. But my other kids, my older kids, I always tell them, you know, you gotta stay focused on what you want and don't even worry about what what what what else is going on in the world. I don't worry about nobody but miss motherfucker. I don't have time to see who's showing the ads on Instagram. I don't know who don't got killed. I don't know what the fund is going on because I'm

focused on what I'm the fucking focused on. You know, I work for V one on three and that's the most I've ever heard about pop culture in my fucking life. I didn't even know half the music. I didn't know half the music was out because I stay focused on me. Well, that's why, that's why you're successful, and that's what I tell people. I don't have time to know who's talking about me or who're talking about James and who are

talking about this and that. Because I'm so busy doing what I have to do to stay on top of my game. I don't have no time to worry about nobody else. And I'm groom too. You know, I'm I'm almost fifty years old. I'm fifty years old this year. I don't got time of that petty ship. I don't got time to be looking at I just don't. I don't have time for I don't give a fuck how us Kanye won't kime back. I remember my own relationship and many snore evernight. I'm trying to say, how cannot

turn this on the white side? So he stopped working at my earl. Jew Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, this fact. What is it about your women that want to turn the motherfucker over? All time? Me snow and I'll wake up sometimes and my wife pushing because when you're snoring, you don't know you're snoring, and she if you pushed me like this, what's up with that? No? My will hear that ship. I can't sleep. I can only watch so many TikTok video. Shut the

funk up. You know you're be snowing and the air coming out of other ends too, and you don't know what you're over that and I don't wait that ship, that's real ship. Now let me ask you. Let me ask you this question, because I think everybody on this call has went through this. This is what comes with success, and this is the hard part. You have some family members that did that may have supported you on your mission and your you know, acceleration as you excelled, accelerated

towards your path, towards your goal. But you have other people that set back and might have talked ship behind your back or whatever, and those are the first ones. As soon as you get some money, let me borrow. I'm not chased. I don't do loans. I don't let you borrow motherfucking thing. If you don't come with yourself scurity, normal, you're not qualified to get it. So you know, I just tell him for I don't have it, because we're not gonna get into that and let me borrow. Then

I gotta chase your motherfucking dame. Damn. If I give it, I give it from the count of my heart. But it kind is in my heart. I'm not gonna be outre giving you my motherucking money because in the end of the day, I'm hendry you. We all gotta go work for what we want. So I tell him, if I'm not giving you ship, no I don't do it. I don't. But I've never been the type of person that bite my tone. I'm gonna say, what the funk I gotta say. I don't give. I don't give a

funk if it's a Barack Obama. If I don't want to do it, I'm gonna tell you don't want to do it. I'm not gonna pussy foot. So I told him straight up, no, fuck you. Yeah, because with family, and they're the worst. You know. I got a son it's about to go into the NFL, and I'll tell him that all the time. I tell them, you know, you don't owe me ship. I did what I was supposed to do. Is a daddy to get you in a position that she was in to help you out,

but you wouldn't did the work. You don't owe me nothing. And I think that's the hardest thing, especially with our people, because we love our families. We love our mom or daddy, your uncle's and everything, but those are the people, if you love them, they would have your ass pro ship chap to have you broke. Then they'll come with every sob story and they've tried, like I've give an example my sister, right, my sisters to have the uh sustem of these problems, and people like, why don't you go

ahead and help your sisters. I can't help no mother fucking crackhead that ship, says ad A, and then bike and short looking like salt and pemper. I put it real good. What the funking I'm gonna do with her? The fund are you talking about? I can't help a bit who've been doing this ship for over thirty five years. That's what the funk you wanna do? So let her do what she want to do. And I tell people all the time, I say one thing you said about Craig,

iTunes the black community, but it don't kill. It might make you sunck a dick for two dollars, but I ain't never seen a nigga ode on Craig. So she'll be all right. You know, it's different for you because you his father, and to read the rewards of your son's success, that's what it's supposed to be. And don't ask up your blessing because your son want to do for him, for his dad and his mom. So it's

totally different than outside family. You raised your son, all your kids is good, so you did what you were supposed to do. So everything that he want to give and how you want to treat his mom and the things he want to see, y'all with man, that's a blessing you and see it is a blessing James. But at the same time, now, if Chris want to go buy me a truck as he got the ship straight, I ain't. I ain't gonna turn it down. You know what,

I'm gonna say, thank you Jesus. But at the same token, I just putting his head like, son, I'm not expecting nothing from you. All I want you to do is take care of business, that's all. I just don't want to see you because the NFL stands for not for long. You don't know how long you go be there. You

don't know how long you gonna be there. So I don't want to see him become one of those young men that when he's not playing up more where he don't have ship, because a lot of those guys don't have ship behind their families, behind um buying mom at that house. It's cool if you bout Mom's the house, But then you're buy your sister one, Now your auntie coming, now your cousin coming. Everybody got a problem with what I had to learn and tell, motherfucker's was this package.

I was a kind hearted motherfucker until I looked up and realized I had about seventy five fans out there in the street that wasn't never coming back, and my money started running low. I realized right then I started telling people know, you know, it's the most powerful motherfucking word and dictionary. W N no, K you know W that's what people cause agreed. I tell them no, like a nigga, no niggle, No, I'm not gonna do it because you know what you you work hard and you

know and I say this all the time. I said, people have a kid said latching on you and black folks think when you go up, the whole fucking family go. It don't work like that. It don't work. I cannot help you because if I help you ain't gonna have what what am I'm gonna have an end? Well, but you was living before I even got this. You ain't you if you ain't fixed your ship and I fixed my ship. We're gonna have to meet up at barbecues

and telling you, yeah, it's some real ship. Now, let me ask you, because you right now you got some credible ship going on. Y'all want to hear something crazy? How did that come about? Um? I was in Canada and the lazy from Netflix walked up and said, uh, we want to give you a Neckflix fension. I was like, oh, okay, right, and um the pandemic kid, which gave me more time

to work it out. And I was sitting as I was sitting there working it out for a year and a half and and I just started thinking of, you know, who could produce it, who could direct it? And I went to one of the site and they jumped on board as the ash producing it. But I wanted something. I wanted somebody legendary to direct it, and I wanted so I was like, I want to ask you know, I want to ask Robert Townsend when he directed, and then was like, uh, bit, he's not gonna do it.

You know, he only did raw for Eddie Murphy, he didn want for Bill Cosby. And I was like, how freaking cool would that? If I could be the third one. And Robert didn't really know me and he was too busy, but I knew in my heart that I wanted him to do it. And when I after I met him and I talked to him because we talked about him directing, but he didn't have time to direct my show and

he kind of turned me down. And I but I remember sitting in the car when the when the answer came through it he said, no, he don't have time. And I said to myself, but you, I didn't call him no. Bit. I said, you ain't gonna say no to me. I'm gonna find somebody in Hollywood to make you say yeah or ask you again. So I picked up the phone and I called Debbie and I'm in tears, and I was like, I really want him to direct my podcast. I mean, I really want him to direct

my special. I said, I just think it be legally. I just think he would help me so much. This is my first Hour special. I wanted to be good. And Debbie picked up the phone and had a conversation with her. I don't know the funk she said, but she called me back and she said, oh, hes gonna do it. Yeah, because she got rested the pilot to the Mispatched show and Robert came on, and I'm gonna tell you something. It wasn't what I thought it was

gonna be. When I tell you it was hard. Like I had to meet with Robert Town's her own zoom once or twice a week for three or four hours, and I think it was once a week for four hours a day. And we had to rehearse that special. We trimmed it. We you know, he pulled ship, we twisted and I was like, oh my god. On while I'm traveling out doing the jokes, I had to send him a video he studied, called you back and said I need you to do this and we need to do this and what you think about that? And I

was like, oh my god, this ship is hard. Yeah, you know, become the top person your profession is very hard. Yeah. And he put me to work, not for one month. I think we did this for like seats seven months after sund on to the project, and he did not He did not play with me. And I thank him for that every day, because you know, let's be honest, people really don't like female comedian. They said, that's all

we talk about. This dick and you know ship like that. Well, I've been through a lot, and I talked about he really helped poor those stories out of me, how I grew up, how I got baptized, you know, all the ship that I went through in life. He really helped me put that ship together and that and that our special. Yeah, you know, it's funny. I heard you mentioned the baptism. Your mom had a hell of a hustle going on back and my mom had a lot of us because

she's a single pair of five kids. But she got it going. She was not robbing, stealing from nobody, but she's been baptized fifty times, twenty five. She was taking on Sundays and signed us up as soon as the people get that check. She's like, y'all, don't even get the funk about it. And I hated it to him. I'm sick of this ship. Yeah, that's one thing I noticed, you know in your act, that she would lay a lot of your own personal experiences in the way. It's

kind of comedy, like your therapy. Hold on meat the funk quiet. I'm sorry, Um, it is therapy for me. You know, I opened a lot of doors with comedy and it was you know, you know how we are black folk. We don't want to counsel and we think, you know, holding it in the tougher we are. But the more I've told these stories, the more I realized I'm not the only person out of it went through this stuff, from the less station to abuse to uh,

just growing up in poverty, you know. And the stories I tell is so relatable to not just Black people, all fucking races. And so it really helped me a lot standing on stage telling these stories to people. And it also made people realize they don't have to be ashamed of what you've been through in life, on what you where you come from. Me like, it's okay to

laugh about it's okay to talk about it. Yeah, And I think that's very important because, like you said, in the black community, if you hear about someone going to therapy, they usually get rid of cute. Usually talk ship that motherfucker's crazy, that we're rid of cru and so motherfucker long, Yeah, they can get rid of cute. They're gonna get talked about,

they gonna get clowned that motherfucker is crazy. Right now, if you tell somebody going to therapy, I was talking to James about therapy one day, and he said, what the fund I need to go sit down and talk to some white person about my problems that don't know about what I'm going through. Last time I talked to one of the motherfucker's they left my daddy poop my

ass some more. Tell tell that story real quick, James. Well, going to therapy, you got these people that don't know you from Adam, and then they want to ask you questions. They want to tell you what you're going through. You're not going home with me. You're not listening to me. I'm telling you what my father is, I'm telling you how my mother is. I'm telling you what I wake up to. They don't give you a solution. They didn't

give me that. So I never believe that anybody, not only white people, but the majority of them in that field of white So you can't tell me nothing. So why listen to a therapist when they don't fix anything? So I don't believe I can tell you this, y'all be quiet. I can tell you this that it works. Um. I used to say the same thing until I had to go there for my marriage, and that ship gave me a totally different outlets. I'm telling I went to

he was black, and that motherfucker fixed my marriage. He was able to ask answer a lot of questions and get a lot out of my husband as a black man that you guys do y'all whole den like. I had no idea my husband feeling the way he was feeling, you know, about my success in and thing that we we you know how he felt about me leaving all the time, how he felt like he got to the point where the more the big of my career got,

the more unless he thought I needed him. And I'm like, nigga, I've been out here grinding on your credit because for the last twenty years, what the funk you mean? I don't need you no more. You're gonna you're gonna prepare bed and then't let another motherful come in get in? Is you crazy? But it really helped to see my husband open up to this black man who she was a counselor and and I learned a lot too, because you know, it's black when we're ready to found what

you talking? My motherfucker, you can't talk to your black man like that because the world is already beating him across the head and then you come home and you got the loud mouth bitch like me want to yap yap off at the mouth of help beat you down. I learned not to talk to my husband like that about going to council. That's a that's a beautiful thing, because the thing is I can see how man, and it ain't a feeling to being threatened, but it's a feeling thing to where he used to be in that

nigga for you. He used to being like, I'm gonna give you my credit card to go do this and do that. Now that's not there no more. So he probably was feeling some kind of way. Yeah, he was definitely feeling that kind of way, but I didn't know that to the point where he was like, I'm just waiting on you leave me. What the funk you mean?

I didn't know we were breaking up. I'm might here trying to get it so you got it playing and we leave, and I'm like, I didn't feel that a way, but it was it was that counselor was able to open doors and I couldn't open in my husband life. That's dope, c James. I told you, man, go get your ass in therapy man. No, I just I mean, I truly believe if if if you're not strong enough to like fixed show situation, then I don't. I don't see myself going to somebody else or counselor I don't

see that. I just can't do that. Have you watched you? Have you watched my show? No? Not yet. I would norm something i've watched that you should watch the mispast shows on Paramount. Look, Oh my god, he's so he's so cute. But you should, you should? You should? Really?

You know. I think it was a counseling episode for my husband on the show, and it was every everything we do on this show is like really touches home with that we don't we don't write an episode without its touching people or or it's it's it's about a real situation to open your mind. Like I have a gay daughter, my gay daughter, my other daughter brought home a kid that called what does they call? What they what do they call none Byronary? I had no idea

what none Byroner was. So I did a whole episode on it and was able to educate the people who watch the show about people when they're different in our lives. So we did an episode on counseling because I really went to counseling with my husband and you, I'm you're talking about a tough bitch being shot for it checks from the street. I never thought said now telling another motherfucker other than my girlfriend on the phone, what help? But it was, it was. It really fucking help. And

and I'm a hard beach. It takes a lie to make me cry. It takes if I'm If I cry, I'm probably gonna slap the sheet at you because that means you buig a hole somewhere that you was supposed to be digging. Right. It would, it would, It would free you. It really will. Yeah. I went to therapy when I was sixteen and didn't need a lot for my life. You did a lot for my life. It was some good ship. And you gotta podcast yourself. Yeah. My podcast is called the pet Down, the pat Down,

and it's some good ship. James. You gotta go check it out. Yeah, I'm gonna do that. Check it out. What made you decide to get into the podcast game? Uh podcast launched my career along with Joe Rogan and um and uh, Mark Marin and all those other Bird, Christian and Tom Sagar, all of those guys. So it really boost my career. And you know, one thing about Joe Um, he's always trying to push the next set of comedian and he just kept telling me, you need

a podcast, need on on top of this ship. You know, I don't want what am I talk about? And so I just he just said, Pat, you need to launch your podcast, and then I needed you need to come back here and I launch it on my on my platform, and so I just decided to give it a try, and I fucking ended up falling in love with it. And yeah, and we and we talked to co host with Diana Chris, and we talked about every fucking thing.

And the fan base is very mixed, so you know we're able to I we it's three different points of view on this podcast. There's you know, people really appreciate and nothing is awful limit nothing. Yeah, I'm about that and you're doing that independence yourself, right, m Yeah, you know I need to talk to Dolly over here in black Effect. You need to be over here with us

because your ship funny as well. That's what I like about this is real, you know what I mean, it's really y'all talking about everything, like, I really like your UM. I really like your breakdown, your answer to Joe Rogan. You know how they came out with the ship twenty years ago and some ship and I said, now, this man don't have too many niggas on this show. He didn't. This isn't had the d and miss patterns show. He didn't precise this at all. Well, Joe Rogan also has um.

When it when all of that came out, everybody put up his his stepdaughter where she's by racial bout his current wife, and you know, I'm like, yeah, Joe Organ is not when you take you have to be careful because it's so easy. And I learned this from shooting TV. It's called when they take words and they drop him in your mouth. I can't think of what it's called. But I had never seen this ship until I started taking my TV show and it was like, I just need you to do a voice, so we're gonna drop

it in. And I'm like, what the funk? So when all of that ship came out with Joe Rogan and people like, what do you think it's pat? I said, I think he's a nice guy, and I think y'all put together a bunch of bullshit and and he apologize. I mean it's I mean, he didn't call to me. He wasn't calling no black person a nigger. They was having a conversation about the word. So it's totally different than the motherfucker calling you a nigger in your face

at Walmart. That's something I don't think Joe Organ will ever do. He's a good to me. He's a good guy, never been nothing but a good guy. And I just stayed out of it. I said, people, you know you're gonna y'all gonna take whatever y'all gonna do and run with it. So do you. I support Joe Rogan Organ my friend, it would continue to be my friend, And don't give a funk with nobody to say that was a conversation about the word. He didn't call nobody in

their face. No, nick, you know what I'm saying, because that's not how he felt, and that's not that's not I know the man character. And I just left it alone. I don't get in that bullish it. Y'all gonna do what y'all do anyway to get clicks, So do you and leave me to funk alone. Yeah, and when we really in that area. Now, I know you noticed it with podcasting. I tell James all the time, I say, man, why is it when we're giving people the real Jews,

some real ship, it do cool, It does cool. But if it's some ni ship with some bullshit, it's through the roof right now. So we need more people out there telling real stories and doing real ship. That's what it's all about. I mean, look, that's to me, that's what it's all about. I don't have time to be playing I'm old. I don't have time play the young bitches gang. I still in my lane. Okay, my ship.

I tell old bit said down your ship was over when they stopped, when they closed down all the skate rings. That's when I was a ship when the skate g rings was around. So are you back in Atlanta now? You're back in Atlanta? One or three? Yeah, I just moved back to Atlanta, and I shoot the TV show here in Atlanta. That's dupe. I'm about to come down to Lantam. Moved Atlanta. My mama is down there. I love the A T M. Man, this is my motherfucker's see it. I love my city and I love my

white ass fact because can't. Nobody said they wait for me. But I love my city. Well, you know the one thing I do like about Atlanta When I went down and every time I go down there, I'm amazed because you go to a soul full restaurant and I love other people. I'm not pretty, no motherucker like everybody like me. But when I go to a soul food restaurant, I want to see some women a look like my mama back there, and the pots, you know what I mean?

Get that in Atlanta. Just like if I go to a Mexican restaurant to get me some tacles, I want to see somebody authentic back there. I don't want to see If I go to the Mexican restaurant and I see a nigga back that makes some tacoles, I'm gonna be mad than the motherfucker I'm walking out me too. I want to see I want to say, to speak English. I want you to be kiss you know what I mean. I want to real mother. I want experience. Well, and

that's what you get here in the Ladder two. I mean, it's just it's such a nightlife here is and it's a good place it's a good devil, a good place for black people. Yeah, for sure, But we go. I want to put your podcasts out there something because I think it's brilliant. Is it on all the different platforms you've got to do and everything out right? So us on Apples, Spotify and all that. I'm gonna share your links if you don't mind, And I'm telling all your

motherfucker's out there not to listen to the show. I need you all to do this as soon as as soon as y'all turn this podcast off, go to Netflix and check out y'all want to hear something crazy because miss pat cuts a fool and she said some real ship and you say some real ship. It's relevant if you look at what you're doing that you can learn from your ship. I try, I try to teach them.

I try to open people mind, you know, like even when they're at the end when I talk about having a gay daughter and say I can joke about it, but came nobody else. And the reason why I did that better because so many people, especially as Black America, it's one of the things was raised of the thing. If you was gave something was wrong with you. I tell my daughter eat all the pusses that you want to eat. Just use paperwhere when you come to my house,

that's your mouth. I ain't gonna stop you with me no pussy, because I don't want you to stop me from sucking dick if that's what I choose to do. You know what I'm saying, that's your mother. I support whatever you want to swallow as long as I ain't got to swallerwy So I've always been a support her gay needsle And I just said, I'm just thankful you're not to stellard bitch because we look just alike. And I was glad you look like a girl. You ain't not even looking like me as a as a boy.

But other than that, eat the pussy is your pussy to eat. Yeah, And I think you know what I would like to say that we're getting better as Black America with dealing with other people and their choice, because for one, it's never bothered me on who another motherfucker was sleeping with. I didn't I don't get a damn. I don't give a damn. So I ain't never been no homophobic care or nothing like that. And I look at some of the homies that act like they had

a problem with gay people. And I would say, look, man, you act like you got some secret tendencies or something. You're being bothered by that a little too much. That may not bothering us exactly, and you the motherfucker's would bothering the most. It's deep down in them and they don't want to look at it because they know that's who they really are. Don't don't put that on the Bible. That's who you really are. If somebody else sectuality is

bothering you, it's like a motherfucker. I don't give a funk if you walk down the street and you don't cut your hand to a rooster, have style and it's different coloring, and everybody thank you, craty nigga. You paid for that ship. That's your ship. At you if you could walk around like a rooster all the funk you want. I wan't look like no motherfucker rooster. But I ain't gonna knock you from looking like no more fucking rooster. All I say, bitches, don't turn into a real chicken,

and we gotta eat you. That's fact. I know. It's laid over here, laid over where you at, and we really appreciate you coming on. Like I said, you're one of my favorites. I can't wait till you hit California. But like I said, I'm gonna be your neighboring about three or more months, three or four more months. I'm gonna be at all your shows and ship like that Tuesday, and I'm gonna be saying, remember I'm you did the podcast. You know what I'm saying. So I'm gonna come out

there and supports you. Well. I appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me. Honestly, make sure y'all check out my show, Miss Past show on BT Plus and it's on Pair of Mine so and we're working on the second season as I speed for sure, we look forward to that. We look forward to that, Miss Fact. We appreciate you, Thank you, Thank you. You have a good night. Well. That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the I Heart app and subscribe to

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