EP 130: Gangs Wage War On Chicago w; Big Rick & ESC Deez

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Big j Jill and Man. You know we got my brothers in here from Chicago to night Man, bigger Rick. What's the word representing speed? Mobsters and my nigga E, S, C D S. You know too, totally different sizes of the tracks. Man from Chicago, Man, and my nicka James is over there funked up at night. Man, y'all keep him in prayers. He need to go get this shoulder, sir. Nothing. These people ain't gonna even shoot me. And you're telling my business man whatever, n pull up and nig let's

get this catch that faces up. You got me over you got over here. You got to. Don't me from Chicago that get up, but we got you to. I'm I'm sugar in that truck and get that fucking pump shot. Yeah, Ni go kick some motherfucking fire. Grab that motherfucking nine call that nigger name na. Man. You know what? Speaking of violence? Man, what exactly is going on right now in the city of Chicago? And you can explain against you, y'all from two totally different sides of the tracks. What's

going on right now? You have basically renegades push it to the limits. That's the generation that's outside right now. No structure, no leadership, no nothing, just Okay, I feel like I can do this. Then were all gonna do this espactically? What's going on and it's influenced the world.

You know. There's no structure, no leadership nowhere, but they're attaching themselves to these mobs that we come from and kind of just when their own spin on high things supposed to be, which is not fair to the world or to the people like myself and elders that put

their life on land for this situation here. Yeah, because all I knew from Chicago, man, what I knew about being in from Chicago that it was vice lords and g d s. But then I start seeing ship like no limit and all these other little splinter sales and everything like that. So them was just like there was just splinters of different sales of this same crew. To him, it's basically like this, I'm e S. C d S representing filthy gut cartel. I'm from the East Side of Chicago, Manum.

It's basically like this. You got folks, you got brothers, you got the intensies, you got boom and boom, so under the under the five and the six brothers, five folks, six got the folk corner hustles big Rick at the Black Black Peace Stones got the Mafia's says the travelers. You got the Lords, and under the six you got the folks, got the beats who in tour right now, so imagine that, and you got like you got the up there in Humble Park. So it's like it's like

a mixtures, but it's only five and six. Let's get that clears, only a five and the six folks and the brothers of the nation. You know what I'm saying, Oh man, your gangbanger seemed complex of the motherfucker. It was structure, It was rules and situations to that. What do you mean by the five and the six? They run under the six point stock. Ourself we run under

the five point star. So again that include vice Lowers which include myself, the Black Pea Stones which is our first cousins, which include him, the Latin Kings, and you got a whole bunch of other Spanish and White moves is under our move too. And then with the folks, you got the g DS, the b d S, the mL d S, the the Spanish gangster disciples, all that run together. Like when you when we used to get incarcerated, basically that was the car, like you're gonna go to

the five of the six. So whatever you had on the streets that was going on that ship cease when you get behind the bars and you go wrong with the going wrong with the finball, they're going wrong with your six and it's all one. So now on the streets, it's nobody there to tell them their history, their literature. The ship that we came up out for and was it was prideful about it because if we didn't know it, it was violations and situations that have could occur. It's

just like they're just pushing it to the limit. And then they're just making a click out of the ship, which is just disrespecting everything that's going on. Say, wondering why all the violence is going on, because it's you got people that just pushing ship to the limit and ain't no structure, ain't nobody to getting on discipline. We were proud of discipline and like just say, for instance, I got into it with somebody. I just can't go do it. Hit on these guys over here because they're

from a different mob. I can't go do none of that because at the end of the day, I gotta go holiday my superior because they might have some business transactions or some type of relationship that I don't know about. Because I'm on petty ship and I wunk around. Might get my ass beat for even bringing that type of ship up, because often the funk up a million dollars type of ship and I don't even know it because I'm in emotions. So what you got right now is

it's youngsters off emotions, y'all. Sters that's trying to find that way and build their name, but they don't understand the work that come with this ship. Yes, so do me your favorite just real quick, um, explain your hierarchy of you're banging, like, because I keep hearing your mixing sheets and lords and all this other stuff and something like it's a real structure too, Okay, So like go ahead, bro,

you go ahead from from the stone side. So basically on the stone shat is like, uh, it's like you got yeah, you got your you got your muf tie, you got your you got your you got your general like you got your shirting. Like for example, where I'm from on the East Shadow, Okay, you got the Macca, the Medina. That terror Town which is no limit, y'all know where that's where I heard from, but it's originally called terror Town, but it's like no limit Macadina. You's

the outlaws city. So you got in four them, just four, it's more than that than four different black Stone set. So each said got a general, eat said, got a muff, and it's like that. It's like broken down, and this ship like that. I go with the folks. But if you got all generals and and you got five star generals and ship like that. Right, But if you got if you got brothers that's that's high in rank, then were the ones that's supposed to come down and say

this ain't right now, that's the cat Okay. Now if they go to jail, ship is regulated even better from jail because when you come home, niggason kites home. If such and such out of line discipline, y'all to y'all, they just say the big deal whatever. So you have to discipline. You have you have the structure to stop this ship if it wanted to be stopped. But you got some brothers that's in it. And use their influence

to get where they're going. They used their ranking to be in a position or in the place where they shouldn't be. Where where Now all the hoods, everybody got dope. Everybody trying to be that guy. So nobody has taken or standing stepping forward to say, man, check this out. Too many of us getting killed out of here. We're doing it and it's fullish ship. Nick is walking up

the street with wants let's stop the ship. So somebody and somebody cause damning everybody in the game's cousin's with somebody that can get together and say let's fix this. We're gonna work this side. Y'all work that side, and if the little homies respect the big homies, it can happen, right, it can. But see that's the catch. In the nineties,

they moved all the seats off the streets. So like when you be seeing like Larry Junior Hill shout out to Larry Jr. That's my man's like even for the folks. And then right they got everybody out streaked from my side, they side the stone side, like it really started with us and then it moved to the stones. Like so they got Jeff Ford up out of him with eighty seven. Yeah, when they hit him with the trees, and you know, Jeff tried to go out that the dom and they ain't.

They weren't trying to hear that. Right, that broke the whole structure. Tried to go out. He was gonna go have a meeting with him, and you know, they put the paws on that, they put the brakes on there. Jan people are about to Yeah, he's easy leader of the Black Peace Stone Nation, Caudafi and all of them was rock. See it's a big it's religious suit for my part of the thing. It's it's weird Islamic. A lot of people don't know that though that's outside the city,

it was real structure. Gotta gotta understand that. So they took Jeff off the street eighty seven. That broke that up on my end, you know, like they got um, they got Bobby and what's sixty nine and Bobby and then come back home to the nineties. Damn there, rest in peace, Bobby Gore. Uh. A lot of people saying

things saying with Willie Lord. You know what I'm saying all this with Lord came home a couple of times, and the first time he tried to get it right and couldn't because Willie Lord had proclaimed itself chief of every branch of the Vice Lord and the other chiefs like ship because it's different generations is moving in, you know, what I'm saying. So yeah, but basically what it comes down to today, it's no structure. All leadership was gone

and clink that ship up. If the police took two of the original vice glors up the street, you got two more that's gonna take their place. It's different for the West Side because the West Side still get miner structure. We like, we like money out west on the West Sude of Chicago, we love money. Then the South Side they're gonna game bang like they do here in California.

West Side, we're gonna get some money. But if you conflate with that money, then your life is gonna Benito and the guys that gang bang out soft they're not coming past street. They're gonna go to downtown to take their back out. Soften not coming to the West Side. And the West Side is small, so but we love everybody, that's the crazy part. But they took all the hierarchy

off the street. So that's what you got now. Much of little Renegade with the bill that was the last you know, the slad my veil there from the BDS. They put that out there like this, just like you're gonna take this out in regular you know, Google history or whatever, but my veil them had their stronghold, but they numbers will not they are today. Chief Keith really made the bat al must today. I'm not gonna lie

to nobody. And it hurts me when I go to other cities and I see them mimicking stuff from the South side of Chicago where they don't have no idea what type of history or what type of animosity they came from. What these guys are doing. So that's what I wanted to ask you, because you got the little young cats like the Chief keeps some the g Herbos and all the little young casters doing their thing out there,

and there it's a lot of killing going on. Like I see a lot of real ill ship online like motherfucker' stuff. I'm about to ride down on my up and you can see a motherfucker dumping out the car and they all on motherfucking YouTube doing this ship like, ain't no accountability tour or no ship like that. Say't nobody to discipline them. You gotta think these these people that's outside right now, I love them because they are and my

kids age. They had no discipline. The discipline left after my generation because everybody left and we were scared though I ain't even going the front to be this. Damn you don't sit at home and from forest drinking coffee and niggers walked back and you get to tell them in the history. Man, look we got on my end, it's different. On the end, it's wall that on the end, it's wall to help. Is damn well this so you would say it's the lowest cast. It's not a losst

cause it's that's a good where I putting it. But it's not, Rick, I don't mean to cut you off. It's not, but it is because it's like I got family over here right now today, and then I funk with them over there just because I carry myself. So it's like I I posed that question no, just to be this is what you know. Too many, it's too many. This is from the amount knowledge. It's too many. Bodies has too many, there's too many, is too many, And

this is what I hear. It's like laughing, real tense or it's like honestly yeah, but it's not because like Rick saying, if it's if it's for ricks walking around that say now these are kids, it's a way to help them, then you know we could try, but now what I'm hearing every day from the niggas that's out there, ain't no way to stop because of the history of what's been going on and the killings and the kind of going back and forth, and so basically, like like

Motherfucker's used to do when we was young, you can't tell me ship. But see, this is where we all grew up and got to understand. Everybody don't lost somebody. Everybody didn't got hurt behind this same old bullshit. Right, So now it's time for grown men to get in the middle of the circle to say, we know y'all lost, we lost I lost a brother, You lost your brother, you lost your cousin. Let's stop this ship right here.

This is what needs to be done, because not only you're gonna get killed, you're gonna get killed and them cats gonna get killed, but our kids is dying. So niggas ain't even looking at it like that that this is just bigger than those cats that hang't on the corner with a pistol and say I'm and anything come my way. All the gangster ship is gone. The structure is not there no more. So even if you got you got kids getting killed out there, so Chicago got

to do the same thing. It's California. Fuck the past, let's move on with the future and the show these looks. I'm totally different. If we don't do that. That little boy that was that uh the spot where with all the money talking to that youngster, trying to tell him, you know what, man, you got a lot of money on you. Next thing, you know, when he boss from up there a week later, young man, dead man. It's it is crazy because at some point in your age

you want to say this ain't for me exactly. And I was just bless for having rapper homies and people like, you know, like all the hierarchy. From my end, it's our dead brother mob father. So I had opportunities to move around the country. And that's what I'm looking at to solve right now, is to show the younger guys, like, beyond what they see in their little block radius is their neighborhood is it's so much stuff you can do. Now,

there's so much stuff you can do. And I'm just trying to bring a webness on how I can be that person to show them that, because when you're in the hood, just like all of us from that era. If what you see every day ain't nothing, ain't nothing going the way you needed to go, then you're gonna do what you see every day. But if you give my opportunity or access to people or situations where they don't normally get every day, first they're gonna come off crazy.

Second they're gonna understand how to come off, but they're gonna appreciate the opportunity. And that's what we That's what I'm trying to do right now with myself and my life. The police right now, he could hell to me, I'm being honest, and we could say from me from shame up. I wouldn't say scared because hell no, I wouldn't say scared. You say scared, I wouldn't say scared. Look, okay, I'm look in my ror. You see vice out south right now?

Oh my mama, the vice detectives. No, I'm listening. They won't out south. There was out west because we had all the fun We got million dollar blocks. They out there every day. When I started seeing the transition, they was on that, but it was on murders and had the ship and they just slimmed through him like Chicago it's different. It's it's like this speaking to what Janger said, My daughter got her name because the bullet went through

the kids. My daughter, my daughter mother on the day call the baby she had personally every day the bullet she was out rid uh about rick way out west. The bullet went through the wind and killed the baby. That's how my daughter got her name. So that's how deep this ship is. My daughter is named after her mother's who the baby my mother kept at the daycat. So it's like this summer, this is a true story, nigga, I'm finding guns. I found the gun just walking down

the street because my dad laying heaving right now. I found the gun. This ship like I racked for real, Let's walk down the street, walk through the alley and go a gun laying on the ground, you know, clipping and so we know what's going on with this here. Yeah, this type of ship they're going on, it's a fact. It's a fact. It's this type of ship that we live every day. I know it's real. Way, I know this ship is real. Why but this is the type of ship every day across the street from my daughter

school as my dad landing. It's I'll cop out the letter and what the fuck this ship for real? And this ship for real is really I right? Yeah, this ship crazy? And um, I want to expound a little bit on your history, big Rickers. You gotta a real thorough history as first, not just the street ship, but the music ship too, because you're a big part of the reason why Twister was able to move around through the city. You're from the same neighborhood and stuff like that.

So you start off with Twister, tell us a little bit about that. With with with with Twister and the Mobster's quick which is what the brothers, my best friend. We grew up together. We did anything together, me myself and my family. The funk Ustles wouldn't be in existence without our family. So a lot of people really got behind me for that. But as a kid, I was a lame you know, like five sis years I was a little kid. I was a street smart kid, but

I want to be a regular kid. But from my family background, I was thrown into something that I ain't know nothing about, So a lot of people gravitated towards me. So with that being said, um with them it aybody that was around me before my uncle Man row Banks died. It was good. I used to wonder when I was a kid, like damn, y'all can't go over here, and then my gas like, you can't go over there. And I figured it out once I got a little older.

So I talked about us about seven and a half eight years old, and I understood that my family had basically, I'm not gonna get touched. I'm gonna golden chat. So people just got behind me. So that's basically how that happened with Liffy. Liffy, what was my other best friend? He took me on this shoulder. He told me everything that I needed to know. But he was one of myne just like to was brother Quick, one of mine. Folk on hostles we ran together, so we already had

small numbers back in the day. We stuck together from Capitol Hill, from Chicago Avenue. D I v uh the k all that we all stuck together plastic road. We stuck together, and that's what we was bro So when the mobsters came into four Fruition all, when it came all together, basically the folk on the hustles. A lot of people don't know that, but but with us being from the West Side, we're dealing with anybody. That's the

difference between the West Side and South Side. We're funk with everybody every moths long as the ain't no disrespect and we can get some money be there. That's the in general, the big quickest way to get money is everybody, everybody. So that's the part that hurt me with the music now because that's the thing that lived Turtle Maze put together along with myself and a whole bunch of other people. We can go to any hood and funk with everybody

because it won no disrespect. We represent in Chicago. So that's that's basically some up b But yeah, yeah, because at the time when y'all came about, y'all was pretty much the first one is kind of like off the porch in Chicago. As far as the music on the nationwide scale, Twisters is the first, like we salute comment because I can't you know what I'm saying. That's the same. But that's the first energy. But you still got shots off the Psycho Drama, the Triple Dog and it shouts

out to um Mass Crew, Color one all. It's a lot of door that. It's a lot of people that play the part but we all grew up together. We all know each other cause the West Side is small, so we all know each other. But we all brothers, you see, we all brothers. It just might be different type of brothers, but we all brothers. So it's a

lot to it. So when we see it now and I look at it, like all the hard work, blood, dedication and tears and everybody is doing all this extra ship now, it hurt because it's like, you know how many cities you went through and it was just us, and the motherfucker's against us. But we wont No. You can't disrespect Chicago like that time two even when you think about it, Um, Kanye is from y'all, Kanye, that's my man. Something new. My Kanye is about ten minutes

from the house he had. That's like ten minutes from where I'm from. Like famines and ya mom rescipesments under West and my mars work together Chicago, Stay. A lot of people don't know this, Well, I went to Chicago, That's wanna say, a lot of people don't know that they worked together. So I that's I've been to Kanye since I was like, baby, what's ain't is Kanye crazy? We all, I'm a little crazy man. That dude man, some crazy ship he do, But you gotta understand him.

He always been who he is and being like that, you don't it. Kanye gonna be who he is man another whole level. Always been outspoken. Motherfuckers say what he wants, funcking, I don't care what motherfucker's think. And then when you get some bread, you're really gonna do like fun. I'm like, I don't care. But you know, I listened to a lot of brothers, uh campone, j j capone ya Jojo Joe Joe came shout out about that nig been a lot of time since with choke, but you know the

way he talked. You know, I listened to him, but then I knew he can't fix that where from by herself? Dog? But jooe good guy. He got us of how y'all feel about him. He's a good guy, y'all you say, y'all or whoever I did feel about him? Jojo helped me before I wanted the penitentiary. I won't have the world. I know that. Yeah. My only issue with Joe Joe is that he did some other ship and wet getting that right now? We ain't go getting that right now.

But Joe, Joe, you know it's a time man that we're really there's so many black people losing they lives in Chicago with so many people are gonna lost their lives in l a just all over dumb ship when you think about it, when you think about all these kids out here killing each other. Like I saw some ship um Brian sent me your news clip he was about to put out. It was really a young guy

that was on his live. Folks were y'all that slide and this nigga was whooping, whoop this nigga's ass and stripped them down like like on the on the live, like an old nigga, like one of us, you know what I'm saying, whinning. This caught this nigga wherever he was at for talking that ship online, whooped this ash dog And the first thing this nigga deal was gonna get his pistol and his mama was holding him like, no,

you can't go back over because he probably lost his life. Yeah, that nigga whooped that ass though, you know, and it was just kind of just like it was crazy. I said, Damn, these niggas out here doing this ship just live on TV in front of everybody, still James eight, y'all, nigga's better give me my fine Donald I put that on the ship. I need to go get me some wannamera. My motherfucking feet fucking with me. Gangs. The Chronicles of my ash take ain't her money. This gangster Granny, y'all

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g ship and blaze up some water marrow. That's the weird part of my generation and ship that because I still got a little bit of theirs or y'alls was like the mystiqueness where you like you hold a little bit nigga, you hold that trump card where it's like, now whether the niggas just exposed the trump card off the back, nigga is what it is, big drake, old nigga, that nigga ba boom bomb, and it's like that's the That's the deterioration of this generation, I believe would be

the fact that everything gets so on Front Street now like even we're going back to you, like yo ship nigga, I didn't know you, and and I know I'm not trying to you and quick had do you know what I'm saying, Because it wasn't my been into the source of one till after the time I've read the source. I really had to read to know all these nigs, you know what. It's just like it was at that end. And I hate to say the Internet the sound clearch shape,

but that ship fucked the swag up. It just fuck it fucked ship up, bro, Because why should I be able to see this nigga in Dallas doing this ship, or this nigga and or this and watching killing this person, or like the black mother with the white cop with the black mother with the when he when he shot the girl, Like why should I be able to see that? Watching my daughter be able she nah, she's cognizant of the world. Why should she be able to get on

and see this ship? You know? And that's what really killed that ship real wide. And I think we were just we're just Chicago, I'm speaking up. We're just like the we like the fish and the fish sank where it's like what the fish doing? The fish wan? We're all good? Okay, okay, okay, Okay, social media. Social media did that, and that's what I'm saying. Like with all that, what ill I call it goofy But man, I respect to everybody. But like I called from erroor, I ain't

need no drug, no nothing. If I'm gonna get you, I want you to. I want you to do about my fucking my breath on your neck, you know what. I I under that act. But now it's like, oh see me, look, I'm gonna kill you. No, man, they don't move. That brings all them other people in ye. Yeah. I think it's the popularity of being wanting to be the artist now and they used that as the platform and go at every to go at you know what I'm saying.

We you know, we we called it. We called it beef and on records and ship and we talked about each other whatever. But we didn't go as to the point of, you know, trying to glorify ship in the public eye or internet or some ship like that, because we consider when it was some real ship. Them niggas took it to a whole another level. The niggas in young niggas in jacksonvillehere they're going to the graves and

and then them niggas is acting crazy out there. Who I smoke that ship is off the chair man going on that man Chicago, when they don't Yeah, and they're going off right, they drawn off I demonstration and know that it's way more than what they see. Well, well, I'm gonna tell you what are the deals to man? The music plays a big part of it, because I'm gonna tell you I'm old enough to remember. I'm older

than you guys. Right. I remember when you know, eight and them first came out and all these different people, you saw different people in the country starting the crypt. Then you know, then it was like you know, you had, like quick, you have some niggas that start blood, and you know they saw that, they said it look cool. But then it was the whole dope transport thing to to where you know, on top of the music. Now you gotta nigga, that's a crypt showing up in your city,

or nigga's a blood showing up in your city. And he got the sack. So they're seeing all this and so now you've got one, two, three generations of crypts and loves this out of town, right, And it's the same ship I noticed when the drill came ship came in. When the drill ship started cracking, it was almost like the same thing all over again, because you start getting

the niggas in New York doing the drill ship. Then you got the niggas in Jacksonville in different places doing the same type of ship with the same energy, right, So it just looked like it was just cracking. Now that's the new promo to get on live and say I'm gonna out here and ride on my enemy instead of a nigga going up there. You know, nigga might have went on line a bust of the third two bar verse. There was flames back then. Now it's like I'm gonna slide on these niggas with the draker one

just popping everybody, Like they killed the one boy. Um, I forget his name, y'all forgive me, but they killed the one boy. He was riding around with a bag of money, which I can't understand why these young niggas ride around with everything they owned in one fucking bag and that media ship because it looked good on that camera. Hey, you know, back in the day, you didn't get your advantage that you might have got two one of the two fifty and just putting the bag and ride around company,

go to swap meeting. All that ship wasn't ask to get jacked in a minute. That's what I'm saying. You put that ship. Put that ship on the car, young niggas. That way, nigga take that car from you that you can call a bank and tell them he cancels you to nigger, don't stop my ship. But niggas riding around with all that money. They cut that one boy out there, he had all that money on him and they killed him. He was going to go buy a motorcycle or something

like that, some kind of bike. Yeah, exx tempation, And that ship kind of had me like, wow, man, this dude really don't lost his life to kind of like that. And I was talking to the same nigga, Gazi. Gazi just gave that boy a million dollars and he got killed, you know what I mean. His life is gone like that. His career ain't even get to really flourished like it

was supposed to, you know what I mean. And this is all just like behind just some like it's we in the era dog to where people gotta let everybody know where they at now they're going live. They let niggas know. I told my daughter, we was at the restaurant one day and she got to do an age. I said, you but not put on there where we had. We don't need people to know what why why do you need people to know where you at? Right? All that location? They love that ships nigga chams right now.

I ain't telling nobody's ship, but they do it. And you know, that's the worstest thing that these cats got coming down because they're quick to tell people what their businesses and not knowing that they're already being watched. You got a backpack with with any time dollars in and then you take a picture. Every five minutes, you pull out a hundred thousands. Just shoot dice nine times out of tend fo. Niggas are shooting dice when they ain't

got a hundred thousand dollars. But you're gambling with niggas. They got maybe five hundred three four thousand dollars, But now they know what you got. What happens when they take when you win that and the money they got if they're already you feel me? So these junxters, it's all about flow showing today you know what I'm saying. No matter what they're doing and how they're doing it, a female food and money, it's causing them they like because they don't tell nobody. Your business man, go back

to I'm going over here. Where are you going? When you ask some questions, I'm gone just go do you? But it ain't like that out here to day. These cats and then you got cats that's out there getting their money. You got cats out there that's watching everybody that's making money. And you got that cat that go to work. You know what I'm saying. They ain't watching that cat they go to work because he ain't got

that much money to stack like that at home. So everybody that's making money out here today is being watched some kind of way. Somebody is watching somebody that day to get that nigked, you know what I'm saying, And we pray on each other. Damn right, that's the best way to get it. Understands so easy. Right now, though, you're gonna get on the internet and show me you got a bag full of money and a couple of dinars. Got to watch his own and some ship. Okay, where

you at tonight? Y'all hanging over here, come get yes, yes, indeed, and it's a life changing experience because you catch one of these niggas, man, you know, you catch one of these niggas with the right bag, You're straight for the next year, year and a half a ship, right straight for the next year. Yea. These niggas get these dollars and offen too much, right back on the on the mission again, I'm right, Ni more Jerry and the call.

And then then dang if I'm o generation. You know, nigga like us, get a hundred thousand, you know how to stack in the main tank, just sit on it. You know, these niggas today get a hundred thousand, They're gonna go buy them a couple of Louis bags, a couple of watches, and a couple of whatever. And then I'm gonna have about forty thousand in my backpack and I'm gonna let you see that I got it in there with a hunted right now. I test you're talking,

I'm my brain a quarter. I'm gonna play with again. We're gonna figure out what we're gonna do with this any fan, of course I'm gonna play with though I ain't gonna I ain't gonna lae me all my ships going to put up somewhere. Ain't walking around with ship. I walk around with folty dollars in my wallet right now. That's all you get from me. You want this folty dollars, I give it to you. Fuck it, I got til yeah,

you give me. But they know they know A they might take it a little further because they know MC got some money. I'm telling you can tell him that the nigg is out there. It's gonna Nicolet's go to your house, nigger. He's gonna go on your glove compartment and look at your your registration. You know, a real, a real one. You know what I'm saying. He's gonna look at that registration. Nicola's roll you hit the rolling street, m about your ass. You feel me? So he gonna

get you to go to the house. Feel me? So it's all over. Now he's gonna these motherfucker's walking around and run around your house. And this this doesn't happen many times. There's always the nigga you funk would be the one that set you put put the other buff on you to ye, that's he's gonna put the nigger on you put somebody on you, but it's some cold ship man and he gonna put some niggas on you and didn't gonna tell you when you get hit. Man, my nigga, we go on the niggas, were gonna tell

you what. We're gonna go get the niggas. What happened, Ye, yeah, and he went like he the first niggas. We finished line on them. Niggas. Just don't let me use the bathroom. I'm coming out popping. Don't let me use your bathroom. Don't let me go in the federator getting nothing to drink. You know one thing? You know, I wanted to say, you're putting a lot of work with those guys, Rick, and then you went to jail. You want to do

it some time, right you. You went to jail when everything but when all the slow jams and all that ship was popping off, everything kicked off for the second rip, But everything kicked off for the same can really I was, I had indictment. They told me two things. I can rad this indictment a radeous new and rade this new indictment that I was on when I was on the road trying to give me some old school money right, I said, well, I'm gonna take the light of indictment

and go on ahead. And when I've seen what I was facing, I one did it. As soon as I went in, I seen so jails go from a fucking mixed show song to and I'm I man, I'm I'm gone. So when I come back home, this is when two eight myostability to all this, when the draw these one of Jim Jones and Cotch deals come around and I'm asked in on it and I'm come home and pop in right there. But I heard of me because I know what type of work them gas put in to

get all this ship done. And if I was around for like, if I was around, because I've always been kicked as the business this guy for them, and I was trying to be rapper, but I was. I was biding this guy. But uh we we we could have made a lot more progress. So that was just something that woke me up. Yeah, I got something to ask you, um which twisters twitches? Manager's name ro Raw shops off the raw? Yeah Raw so raw. He kind of came

in and splintered everything up a little bit. Well raw is just raw, you know what I'm saying, you know, he shouts out because he gave me an opportunity. So I can't take that away from none of that, none of them. But no, this ain't even nothing like that because at the end of the day, I saw Chicago and Twister, Twister push Chicago on his back, dog like Chicago had it because commen did this thing. Ain't no disrespect common as a rapper, motherfucker, But it's two different lanes.

Twister kind of bought the street element into it because Stokes, Lefty Stokes, Lefty Stokes, Turtle Banks and them. Then was the street guys, the gangster was the folk on the hustlers. I had that without that. Yeah, but he bought a lot of light to the city. Man, he bought the light. But if you got the blueprints sitting right here, left

the Stoaks, Turtle Banks, big right, don't keep going. But mays you got it because they was on every project catch you just name was on every Twitter proos, Turtle Banks, Maze, how many jobs you got? How many grabs? You got? So many that I don't even man no more because you know what why you got Look, this is why applauded the met because since day one they always told me, keeps trying to wrap wrapping your math so sharp? Did that come from my uncle mar row Banks recipes? Al gunny,

you know what I'm saying. A diary you you you got the mad for the business and that's what you love to do. But you want to be something that you're not. And I didn't sept that for so many years. And now that's what I was destined to do. But they taught me everything, and I took this ship light. Yeah, I can do this, I do this, do this, yeah, and I've seen it with my eyes. But I wanted to be what they was because he's my homies. But I knew my position was right here, so I accepted it.

And that'd be the biggest problem in the cruise. Sometimes you ahead of home, even might make a heill of a manager, but he trying to make bets to be a djor rapper do something, and the rappers thing, miss mind, like this dumb mass nigger. If he had just going to just be a manager, might that the nigga manage me because he got some this ship going on? You know what I mean? We we become nonsassisted, you know

what I'm saying. In our own ways, nigga Like nah, Like Rick just said, Uh, it took me years to come to coach with Like, No, I'm the businessman. Let me stick to my my stick. You know what I'm saying, and not knowing the business man go through the least amount of headaches because when all the people come to sign, all the graphs want this. You can eat your breakfasts in piece and they don't know. You're the most powerful nigga the table. See just how I play the game

with all of it. I know highlights say we're gonna use eight. I know how a fear. I know where he won't because I tried to live a life, so I know what he won't. But it bids his wives. What makes sense. I know where everybody's gonna be happy at, so I know how to play that medium and going there and take care of business because once I know what he won't and they won't, I'm gonna come up

with something that's gonna be successful for everybody. And I didn't realize that in toutside the one outside ventures, like with the cell phone stores and all this ship. Let's speak on it, man, because phone what's that? Yeah? So I got started with that. When I was in the joint, Chinese guy told me to come to Atlanta with his brother and he's gonna see me how to work on the iPhone one when it come out. I come out

right the year it come out. He taught me how to work on that bitch, break it down, and I ran from there. I've always been a salesman, got sold drugs, so I can be sail whatever. So I understood that gang. I was in Atlanta, Georgia, me and my homie Chris, we opened up the first shop and I'm gonna tell y'all who hood it is. It's Jeez Homie numberhood and Zone four in Atlanta. But it's rock oh and uh, what's my boy Polo? All of them this stay area

all opened up on Camperton Road. Start busting all the four and as funking with me because I know I unlocked the falls all that. But I'm not seeing a bigger picture where you can take all this ship out of the country and get money. So I learned from that opened up sex store North Atlanta. That's like Cornette County. So we got the two stores spam, we get money.

That's the retail, just the super hustle spot. But once I learned that, I understood the business even from the mobster standpoint to where like you have to go funk with these people. It's either it's supplying the man, these people on this, these people on this. I kind of come in the middle and make everybody happy. So that's basically I run business now. So I got that going on. Then I did to ninety West Enterprises, which was like

now they're talking about to ninety in Chicago. I was the first one talking about this ship in the nineties. I just knew that just because I felt like the West Side never had no smoking story. So I said, whatever company I opened up, it's gonna be two nineties something. So it's two ninety West Enterprises. And with that, that's the agency to ninety is the interstate that run through the west side of Chicago. So basically you got ninety

ninety four East, right, You've got that. That's that what runs like from the North Side through the south Side to ninety it's our own personal expressway. It comes through the west Side, you know what I'm saying, from Housta to Austin and then after Austin is suburbs. But you got Madewood, which is the Hood suburbs and Maywood, Bellwood gear Me. But to ninety I wrapped. This ship is nineteen and I made in my company in two thousand and one. So anything on the internet whatever, you can

google that ship. I've been doing this since nine eight five. So my next company was basically the booking and management standpoint. That's what we had not at to ninety West agency. So I was able to, like say light with eight and all of them. I got great relationships for everybody. I know where he won't, I know what this promoter won't. I'm gonna come in the middle and make this shift happen.

That's it, because it's about satisfying both parties. And indeed, you on the younger end right there, you with the wild little young niggas, but you're doing some incredible ship on the thumb ship too, because you've got one of the most cracking You got one of the most cracking his hood movies, like y'all produced one of the most cracking, Like that ship is like up the millions, how many

millions of us'll go cook up? Yeah, we had like one point one point to one point three million to cook up talk about to cook up for a minute now year how that came about? Um, you cook up? Its decent. Thank you all, Man, I thank you, rig I appreciate you all. Basically man, me and Bro he uh me and my partner's suicially Roy he uh he like Rick, he helped me push this thing with my music. But like you said, we gotta figure out how we're

gonna do this. Everybody everywhere got some nice, got something dope. So men, Bro sat there in the cord that literally episode one, season one of The cook Up, You're gonna see the gas station. We sat in that gas station, wrote a pack of woods together, me and him we're rolling, sat there and blew him and sat there and thought of everything we was frying to do, and he was like this, how we're gonna do your music, broom and

do this like this. But it just blossom into us writing and to us just coming up with the ship to make people say, man, it's dope, boy, make people say like it's just basically we took we just we just cultivated what them niggas did in the nineties with that ship. Bro, you gotta understand, Bro, that's one of the coldest movies ever my nick I'm looking at your you ass and telling a camera what codis movies ever? Just the energy like I felt like I'm right there.

That's what our purpose was with it. I want you to feel like you're on the east side of Chicago, you out west were rick then when we shoot them scene you and the Hunts, when we shoot I want you to feel that. I want you to smell a piss on the floor. You know what I'm saying. I want you to smell a weed in the ass. So that was our mentality when we wrote it. Man, we just been focused on making this the biggest thing we can, making the biggest WE episode. That's what the internet is missing.

We're trying to find the leak at when no good WE episode Outside of my niggas in Brooklyn um money uh the money Vine is the dad ship there you go. Besides that, like I salute them, Yeah, that ship was pretty dope. Besides that one, nothing from what we could you know, because I'm gonna tell you, dog like, whenever you're the first one off the porchs with something you may not it's weird because you're the first one off with it. Then you look at everybody else do it.

Like I know for Affect the Gangster Chronicles, there was nobody doing what we was doing at the time we was doing it. But now you can look online and see a hundred different podcasts and niggas just talking about some gagster ship, you know what I'm saying, and they really you know, and don't get it twisted. They always had it to where the cats were going through the neighborhoods with the cameras and stuff like that and do a little documentary style stuff. But it wasn't nobody. You

didn't see nobody somebody that was from a neighborhood. Yeah, that was just you know, getting the thing going in the where they was really doing some ship. It's like dog, I would say, y'all the sex, money, murder cats. It's like you would see a lot of parallels with Power.

When Power first came out. You can tell that they had been watching all this ship and the thing and they made it because when I first saw y'all ship and I saw the sex, money and murder, so I was like, oh my god, this ship is the maining ship I don't ever seen in my life. Well, we got might on the Games Chronicles. Show'll get one of them come with us. Don't get my bro his flowers because you you know, you raised the mobs. Liffy Stokes if he was here, he love you come to Chicago

all the time. I know you did. That's what the conswers for Shorty g and all that. Yeah, man, yeah, like all of them they folks, But I fun with um, said, a lot of people don't know that. Melvin Heywood rest in peace. What's my godfather? He folks second in command. But like with you, they boy, we raised off all this ship. You didn't know that though we we came off there like to see him dove ship. Yeah. I used to call Chicago my second home. I used to

be there like every other week. West South South South southwest side. I used to be on the West Side. Yeah yeah, yeah, I used to be on the projects and all that ship. Yeah, I used to it was Chicago. It's crazy now. It was crazy, but it was crazy. Yeah, it was grown niggers was crazy then. He used to be up. You won't even know that that generation, our generation blood that ship like with eight with Quick, that ship, that's what we was raised. It was just like mimicking

what we was doing. But we just was quiet about it. But that ship ship, real ship. That's why I gotta give bro it's flower. Yeah yeah, shot time was my that was my second home. Man. Yeah. So you know we go wind this down, man, because you know I'm looking at my man, James and James the Soldier man. Yea yeah, Man. So y'all tell me, man, what's the next play? Big rick Man? What can the people expect from you? Bro? Well, right now I'm working. We got

the speeding our master's uh super solid project done. We've been hitting the role, you know since since what September, and we're gonna continue to go out put the project out two uh boss myself. We got the Street Knowledge podcast. It's gonna come. I gotta get a the Midwest of

Chance the opportunity to speak their voice. And you know, I'm just trying to get in the community to correct some of the wrongs I did along with other people, so we can make this ship makes sense because at the end of the day, I had an opportunity to move around the country. So I want the Yonsters that

stuck in them a little block radies is. I want to be able to give them that opportunity because they just need to see something different and then they get a different um look of life, you know what I mean. And that's what it all. It took for me for me to just get the moon around. I'm like, damn, I could do this. They're living like this out here and I ain't gotta do this no more. All it is again simple simple equations. Access to somebody that they

can't get access to and the opportunity. That's that's it. That's it. They have to fix Chicago access for sure. And you've got a lot of ship going on, So tell the people what you've got going on, bron, Thank you knowing well, we got to cut up season two out now. We just dropped episode two. Um we shot episode three here. It should be coming out soon. It's

called CALLI Love, So we got to cook up. Um. I just dropped the new album with you Jella E s c d's any platform E s c E SAD crazy E s c D S sure for these who E s c D s D e e Z just google it. I dropped the project every month this year, man, check it out. I'm really working videos all that. Shout out to the Gangster Chronicles podcast Big Rick my homie, and y'all probably wondering, like you've got to Chicago, what we're doing. Me and Big Rick putting the play together.

That's me right now. We're gonna talk about it, but we're working. We were working high. And I'm gonna certify e s c d S because that's my homie. He wanted ours. Hey, he got the brain on him. He ain't got the goofy brain. He got the my brain on. He reminds me of young meat. But he better than me, and I love him, so I'm gonna do everything I can to get them what we need to be. I just figured out your name docs. I used to always wondering, what do you see DS mean? But then he the

d's a big deal, the deeds. You know what I'm saying. I said, Man, he got sick to this ship. Man, you know what. I man around and man, y'all make sure man we go, we go run up out of here. Man. So my man James to go get this road man and get itself, get itself together, man, And let me say something real quick though. You know y'all living in a crazy city in a crazy time, and as black man, y'all got to really stay strong. We don't have to look over our back like that. Not really out here.

We do, but we don't, and we ain't declared California a war zone. And we know what's going on with Charlie and y'all got a long road ahead of y'all to try to fix you know, this black names ship and trying to fix each other and fix yourselves. So man, I just I'm gonna pray for you brothers, and I don't brother stay strong, get what you get, and just keep your mind one hunt it with it and just do what you got to do. Oh wish she's gonna stay away from you, like please, because you're doing what

you got to do exactly. He ain't no question. I put the creative top first and I'm moving his path. But at the same time, my loving person, regardless of all I did into my past, I'm a loving person. I just won't the next generation to understand that it takes us to be together to make it different. And I understand y'all living in poverty. You're trying to get right.

But if you can ask me anything or me my help, I'm gonna help you because I just know you need access and a different motive to do what you need to do. And then that's what happened with me. And and that you say that I was told, don't forget my past, because my past is gonna help correct my future safe. I never forget why I come from. I'm rocking with that all day, Yeah, for sure. And I just wanted to say something command you on something. I love the fact on how you all Chicago niggas hold

each other down. Y'all don't put your business out there like everything, because you always give Twister his respect whenever I talk to you, you know what I mean. Always, even though you'all don't work together no more and nothing like that, it's always all positive. And I like that ship man, because you just because you don't work with somebody no more, it don't mean that it's a beef for a funk. They get able to give her motherfucker's flowers damp. They gave me an opportunity. I come from

the West side of Chicago. What a brat from the six h six four. She's all sister Chicago Avenue. But we all grew up together. I'll understand. It's not no hope like a lot of these places. But they gave me opportunities to a long business to get myself together, to understand I don't have to be a drug bill all my life and move on the country and sales rugs. That's some big ship and that's all. We're gonna get

twister up on this motherfucker. We we were supposed to connect before we connect with him next time he came out here. But yeah, shouts out to the speeding on the banks. Rick myself, you did maze. You know we're coming hard. Y'all go follow speeding. Our mobster is on Instagram. We are Oh, I got you in Liffing. Next time, Rick getting the plane, You get your ass on the plane with him. Man, and stop tripping, man, stop tripping a little murradot all day? What you handing? Bag? I

thought you know you from Chicago? Man, you almost I don't know if you can come around that like give it out that motherfucker jaid. I appreciate ye. I love I love these man. Y'all know, there's got an old soul. That's my youngster. That's what I told him. Here may your young men. I f like, okay, Oh that's dope as hell. Ain't go, little, ain't go. Put your ship. The first ask well, love man for sure? Yeah, yeah,

got us a tray and everything. Hey, well you know what, I know, you know, you know what, but I know all my brothers and this motherfucker all my brothers and this motherfucker is clean. Well that concludes another episode of a gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the i Heart app and subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles podcast. For Apple users, find a purple mic on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, leave a comment

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