EP 120: Laws of Distraction

James and Bix Fails from the Streets. Hello, Welcome to the Gangster Chronicles podcast, the production of our Heart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you download the I Heart Apple, subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles for my Apple users, hit the purple Mica on your front screen. Subscribe to the gainst the Chronicles and leave a five star rate in the comment. We like to welcome every one to another episode against the Chronicles podcast. And I'm

with my dogs. Yeah, and today we got a special guest. We have my Homeboyhood post Men professor Milly mailing here. Millie, what's up, bro man? Everything man, We've been through a whole lot, this whole entire week man. So we're sitting here right now, we've been to discussing. Let's get into it still. Let's get into it, you know, this weekend, um, and just to set the narrative up for everybody out here, because I'm sure these millions of people that don't see

the activities that was going on. James was actually down there for a function for the youth, to serve the youth of Dallas, Texas. And that's what I understood. Yeah, it was down there. You know, it was down to do a positive thing. Well, first let's let's let James, uh, let people know what his intention was. What's going you know, we just jumping right into it to James, what was

the purpose of of of this weekend? This past weekend? Well, I got a phone call from mom, can't ask me what I participate and talking to these kids at the campsite for the weekend, and you know that's right up my audey, that's what I want to do. So I man, I said, yeah, he said, uh, but you don't fly. Oh no, I don't worry about nothing. So I made preparations. I hopped in my car and I went down there. You know what I'm saying, you know, keeping it one hunted,

you know. Uh, he asked me what I do, uh do the podcast show? I said, yeah, I can do the show. I'm down here. And that was right on time for me, because you know, I wanted to speak to Charleston. You know what I'm saying. I felt that I wouldn't getting across to this brother. I had to phone conversations with him, and uh, you know, just speaking to him previous thirty minutes ago. His agenda was totally different, but Mines was on point. I already knew what I

was going down there for. It wasn't to jump on Chorles and cuts chosen. I was. I was starting no ship. I'm going down here for the for the kids. So, uh, I do the show. And as I'm doing the show, uh my boy, hit me watch the left right side. Oh boy, put a pistol down there. So he not even knowing, I'm already up on the game. So now

I leaning back to my hat. Now I'm paying attention to him, and you know now that I'm doing my work, so you know, when he gets all out ready and everybody, he pointed to I can stretch them off the list of who I gotta take a posts out of. So I'm i'm I'm watching the whole scene. So I'm talking, and this dude started talking and then he just started

with the bloods and the crypts again. And come on, man, this is I've told you you disrespecting the day you you you're doing too much right And when he stood up, now I can show him. You know what I'm saying, you know, left your pistols sitting in the chair right here. So before he can go back to his seat, I'm right there right in his faith like this. So at the same time he had me heated by the city,

was saying like this motherfucker ain't getting it. But I'm thinking, man, if I hit this little dude, man, I mean he little I'm looking down at and you say little, give us an idea of what little is. He's about one fifteen, uh, real fragile, skinny guy. And and I was standing over him. And then I never had an intent to hurt to do because Huncle always talked to me about this and that and that and this of him and he don't mean no well, no difference. Well, somebody has to check

the dude. Somebody has to stop the ship. So I see talking to him through conversation wasn't working, just just befriending the coming stations. So we went there. Uh, I sat back down. He started to say something, and I just knew I couldn't take another peep of his voice, so you better get up and walk away. So I just got up and walked away from the situation. But right after I walked down, I went to my car, went to the trunk, pop me and motherfucking made me

a drink, and uh, I'm cool. You stay ready, you ain't got to get Oh, I ain't got to get there. And you know, people, you know this, this is what I did for a living there. I mean, you know, I told you all before, you know, the gang like it was a job to me because you know, you just can't go out that from porch and just walking around and just not pay attention to what, you know, your surroundings is. So we peeped the hole surround him

when we got there. Then I peeped a little you know, the podcast show, and you know, I made myself smith. This is where are people sitting. They can watch everything right there, and you know, now and I'm not knowing, you know what I'm saying. So I think at the end of the day, it turned out to be a little misunderstanding. Fathers Okay, when they told me he got his pistol. Now I'm angry because he got his pistol down,

I can't let him get nowhere near it. And then he funked up and got went by it went by, it walked away from the pistol. So when he did that, I'm in California, nigga, Man, you don't sucked up. So and when they're getting close back to that. But the whole time, I'm you know, I got old Lucy on my hill, you know what I mean. So it was, it was, it was, it was crazy. And then they down this uh bright Dogan whoo whoo. Man, I met that brother. He was one hundred of me, you know

what I'm saying. But if if that was the purpose of going down there to man, if anybody knows, you will not get no points off uh brackpacking or doing something to chose Whitey. He is little as mother, He's a little dude. And I don't I don't think it's worth it, you know how we you know, when we was growing up. You don't get points for that. No, you don't get no stranger. James, he really don't understand this West Coast culture because in this culture you can't

make up. You can't make a living off of fuck you, nigga, bitch hole, or even calling me and us men right yourself and James, I mean still right in our culture, what's gonna happen if you call a nigga a bit, You're gonna get check off on. And that's and I think that's just being a man period, Because it ain't too much that riled my nerves. I'd like to look at myself as a little too evolved for the bullshit. But the man called me a big or something like that,

we gotta fight you almost damn. They gotta recog nigga. You gotta really go in on the nigga call you a big. You gotta make him stay on that ship. Well, in Texas, it seemed to be okay for me and to talk to one another that way. But we don't stand man. I in Texas, those guys don't. They're not disrespectful like that. For the most, everybody I ran across in Texas was one honey, all the people I ran across, you know, dealing with with un damn and and and

and it ain't them. It was just one individual. Yeah. I wasn't alluding to that. But what I used is the ten ninety rule. Tem per cent of anything can topple of everything. He's part of that tem percent. Well, what what pisces me off is that he don't have no gang background. So how can you say funk this and funk that? So it's kobuky therapy? What? What is what? What? Like I said, we had Charleston on the show. His

direction wasn't funk our heritage. You get me? Um, why did he turn Is this his platform to get bigger recognition? What is his platform for wanting to just come out and signal out, fuck crips and bloods. I have no clue. I have no clue where he turned them. One time we we do the show, Chawston cool. Then the next thing out here? Man, you hear truse If I'm understanding, he has no no hood affiliation? Right, No, Well he'd

been through like like I it was my understanding. Uh, Raymond Washington daughter was with us, you know, ray ray was there from my understanding. When he went to Nipsey Hustle's funeral, he was right there with her and and they were all kicking it or whatever. But fathers hanging in hood and been from the hood, King Baba Louis,

wouldn't his big homie, you know what I'm saying. So all the guys that he came out and with our hat come down to Dallas to textas, wouldn't the homies he just introduced them to certain ship now is to me he formed a relationship with him, right, But that don't make you like this hood experts, this gang expert where you just oh, these niggas are moved. So now every blood in crypt is basically broke niggas living with their mama. Niggas ain't got no car niggas. You know

what I'm saying. Now, you're putting everybody in one basket because you can't do that. From what he has to understand, This is what I try to tell him. One like me and Glasses, is that you got cryptics police officers. You got crypt and bloods police officers. Now you got some of them. The nurses, You've got catt driving trucks, I mean ship you see niggas in sports, you who associated themselves much more. Not that we try to glorify the ship being crypts and bloods, but it's what we did,

and we we evolved from that ship. I mean, you like, you know, entertainers like myself, you get me. We all come from different walks and we have grown as men to where you don't have to credit that. But that's a part of our heritage being being you know, you know, James a prime example of that, you know, being one of the dudes that's most respected dude in the streets. Got a podcast, it's popping, got you know, the radio, it's other stuff. You evolved past that. But the thing

what he doesn't understand is that that's a neighborhood. It's a neighborhood thing too, And you got people in the game in every neighborhood. And this is just my observation. You're correcting if I'm wrong, But in every neighborhood, I know, it's only really two or three niggas that's really with just the you know them them to hear, the just

the ones that you can't just have absolutely no control. Yeah, you know, you got a couple of cats that got the homie that got the squad, and you've got the other the home he was playing football, basketball or just going to school. And you you got the niggas who are making the big bread. You know, everybody had the ballers from the neighborhood. And like you said, there's all

walks of life from the neighborhood. Uh different factions. Everybody got a position and my body, I think that this limited mindset is applicable to what we do in the West Coast. When he's obviously he's in Texas right doing whatever he's doing. He's been out of here a few times. But a few times he's been out here. Can he really have a definition for what we do? It don't do? No, No, I don't think he he don't have no concept of

what I the California is. And then the whole thing about it is he said they emulate California, but you're emulate in California because you watch boys in the hood. Uh min. It's just aside that that was gonna be my next point, you know what I'm saying. So this is why they say they've been hood winked. Every man has a choice, especially at the fifteen fourteen years old, if you don't want to be a gang banger, say you don't want to be it because what you see

in the movies, you see violence. You don't see catch uh hanging together and making money and and and you know as one you see violence. So those movies promoted violence, So why would you want to be a part of that? But this is where they was at. So you know me personally, you know, the brother mush have went through something in his life for him to feel the way he feels. But all of a sudden, just bad Because if you felt like that, you never came to California

and kicked it. You never came out here and hung out, And then now you can't come out here and hang out, you know what I'm saying. So what I'm saying, I don't understand what was his his his transition from uh, you know, wanting to come on the show and come out here year that you know, mingo with motherfucker's and

then to turn around and go fuck them niggers. One thing that this internet, the Internet has done a lot of good things, right, but it gave everybody everybody is not meant to be on the camera, you know, or or have access like that you know, we was coming up, we didn't have no YouTube and all that, so it's like everything was kind of seen that face value and live in the real time. It's like now, so you've got people that the attention can be addictive. Sometimes you

look at the trend the way stuff is trending. You had to do the Tennessee that's a YouTuber that was putting the frank and somebody prank and somebody shot and killed him. You had the other young brother out here that we don't know what was behind, you know, Andy Red. You had him to where he got shot. And that's not counting Bob down there in the in the jungles exactly. And it's just so much stuff. It's real destructive and dangerous. Now that's why I tell these young influence. I get

hit up all the time by cats. How can I do this and do that? I tell him first of a former identity, on something that's authentic, not off the back of being the shock jock stuff. Because the shock jock stuff is making you so far. I can name you ten niggas that do cameom win in the past eight months that popping here and and disappear because you have to continue on with the funny and the menagerie.

When you start something, bro, if you start off that way, I can't come on here telling everybody to suck my dick and doing this and that cuts of people out in the next week preaching a message of positivity and peace. It's just gonna be two MW points. There's gonna be two MW points. And with these cats. Got to understand is that it's real life. Here's people as serious. Bro. I told you know, shout out the um, shout out

Duke Berry. But I told them cats a few months ago when the one video came out talking about the army, I said, man, listen, I said, this cat is getting into some stuff dog that he don't know where you're getting into us a whole another ram. It's a whole another ram. And I know as far as our Gangster Chronicles platform I take, but we do very serious. That's why I tell people off the rip. I'm cool with everybody out on never things from somewhere. James is from somewhere.

Ain't from nowhere. But you understand, you follow what I'm saying. You food what I'm saying, Oh big ja, what what should be our objective moving forward and what the outcome should we be looking for. Man, we should be looking we we really need a uh away out. We need to find how we can all get together, like like like that brother came down there. You gotta you got a mob, dude, and you got a car park there. You know, you got two guys and they pretty much

on the same page. You know. He called me on the phone said, brother, I don't think you should take a wrong approach. I think you should be easy with this cat because he, you know, a cannon, so I know he wouldn't coming down there to be like offen the gun holders. Dude. You know what I'm saying. All you gotta do is get him. It wouldn't nothing like that.

So plus, as as black men, we're growing up. You can see we're coming out of it because you see you see bloods and crips hanging together all the time now and then you just and they ain't on no selling dope. You got you got them working together, just real ship. So we gotta reach these young men that that I don't believe that that this ship don't change because everybody got to walk out that motherfucking do every morning, every morning we haven't been through so much in so

many motherfucking years. You know this ain't no brand new ship. This ship has been here since the early photies, the late fifties. That our parents was gang bangers, you know what I'm saying, Our uncles, you know what I'm saying, And they're just trickling down and it's just getting worse

than worse. I got a deeper question for a hey, being that you grew up in the eighties, right, You come up through the neighborhoods, and you was actually you was actually in that cop then phenomenon, right, and you saw a lot of things and you actually rapped about because I've got you as a lyricist, right, and you actually were speaking about the situations and scenarios that you

witnessed day to day. But today's rapper have it's emulating James, emulating you, emulate myself and telling these stories and that's becoming the driving force of the w the Charleston White and a lot of these other people when the story is misconstrued and the story is not accurate, but they make it seem like they're the ones that's doing it, but doing well. Let me ask you this right here, and you text on the powerful point. But but no, this has got something to do with that. If you

listen to this right here. Growing up in the hood, Yeah, boy was a year my peers didn't know what was in store. A little here already a kid came with fags, trying to pay my dudes learn the tricks of the trade. He was describing every little niggai I knew, not just out here, but across the country. A dude coming of age, and he started to seeing all the homie over here got the second time men get mine now well, growing well, growing up in the era. I grew up in Um.

Like I used to tell people as a kid, like lionels age, I'm pretty sure we all had dreams of being something different than we work, depending on where we grew up. Um. I grew up in Compton. Uh started off, you know, I had the normal household, mom and dad, father work, mom's work. But when they split and moms went by herself. And now I'm growing up in the neighborhood and I'm the age of nine and ten and eleven,

and I'm seeing the drug dealers on the corner. I'm seeing the dudes come through doing dry bys and dudes getting killed. That still fascinated me to a point of these are my choices, you feel me. Um, not that that I wanted to pretend to be or you know, I just felt as a youth growing up in Compton, that was the road I had to take because that was it. You get me. Single mom in the household. Uh, she was all trying to work and supply ship. But then I was left to the vices of the streets.

You get me, Um, Moms wasn't you know, giving me allowances and ship like you know ship, You see what typical motherfucker's on TV so to speak. Uh, kids getting allowances and getting to go to whatever whatever. I didn't get all of that. So when I saw the drug dealer on the corner, or I see the niggas belling impacts with their rags out their back pockets and ship, that gave me the sense of family, of wanting to

be long. So that's why I wrote those songs. I did, and I participated in gang banging and selling dope and all that because I felt that that was a no way out situation. At one point, did you realize that the streets was undefeated and you need to change directions because the streets that you think about the streets as

a total, it's undefeated. Definitely. Um well, I guess to the point to where when you start um doing for yourself and becoming a family dude or you know, getting the mind state of I'm seeing a lot of dudes still get killed going back to those things that you grew up within, the value in that and those lessons. Definitely, I started seeing like from the time I was youthed to about what time, because I was still hanging in the neighborhood at twenty five years old. You get me.

I still I still money even though I was I felt like Nipsey So Nipsey Hustle wasn't the first one to do that. Oh no, No, I still at the point of where I was shipped. But I'm coming off tour and I'm going straight to the neighborhood because what else did I know? I mean, I didn't know ship else. Yeah, I got the house, I got the cars, I got the jewelry, I got all that ship and Nigga's telling me, why the funk are you over here? You get me?

But I'm still feeling like I gotta have that connection like, like, it's important for me to still have that connection to the neighborhood because I didn't want people to think that the ship I was writing about or experience with some ship I was doing from afar, like I grew up in that ship. But it came to a point to where now I got kids, you get me, Um, I'm hanging in the neighborhood every day. You know, it's still the same ship going on. I'm give a fuck if

I'm the nigga that's wrapping and still whatever. It's still niggas from that past life that still look at me as nigga you affiliated. So even let's work, even though yeah, even though I'm like okay everything or whatever, you still got the a. Man, we need dope, we need guns, fuck them, wrap them wraps. Niggas like niggas like fuck the wrap tickets and fucking being just passes to the shows. They like, nigga, we need guns and dope over here.

So that's when I started going, whoa like you get because I'm thinking, because now you're about to get caught up into conspiracy exactly. So that's when I had to make a choice. And then you had certain niggas like James, who would tell me why the fund? You keep coming over here? You get me like why? So here's a

deeper question for James. James the highlight of death row right, I'm talking about at its peak, he was around millionaires, billion maybe even billionaires, and and you saw a lot of money being transferred and and happening right there, very right in front of your eyes. Motherfucker's were using credit cards, got black cards. All of those guys have money, man, But you know we didn't. We didn't have that right here to the leak with him, you know what I'm saying.

Like my brother Alton and and uh Big Jake. They went in there trying to learn the music and God did little artists and whatever. But you can't get there when your people don't want to see you there, you know what I'm saying. So that was my question, though, How was being around all this, seeing all this business go down? Why wasn't nobody said, wait a minute, hold up, man, look what's happening to us. Let's get on this business. Because we were in full control of a multime million

dollar I did that. I told all the homies when our thinking brains was m O. B. And ship sugar ring was m O b I'm talking about bigging his chain and the year they had to be bigger. He rolling investors and Mercedes, and we're riding around in seventy seven Cadillacs, Uh Caprice Classics. Hold up. When we pull up, the people look at us, and then she'll leading the pack when they see us all ship the bell housed and the cats didn't want to come park our cars. Man,

y'all don't see the big picture here. Man, she gets making money, but he explored nuts. Man, we gotta just as long as y'all show up the other people exactly, so we gotta have me. Man, we gotta get this. So at that time, Bob, you've been drinking too much, you'll be tripping. They don't see the big picture. I do. Come on, man, I know what's going on here. I

know where the money at. But then I sucked up when I started just accepting checks instead of checking that ass on some This hood belongs to us, not you, punning and and and we we we lost sight of what happened to us. Often, James, is that for us melanated people, we get caught up in the romance of the moment. Right, but we don't see that this stuff at some point can come to us screeching hall. And if we ain't building in the right way, it's not

gonna be it's not gonna sustain us. And I said, all that, then we gotta let me write our draulics. This is how you got us. Okay, we gotta let me write our draulics. I'm every night I'm posting because somebody said theyin't gonna come through and do something. So I got my little crew. We posted all the old in the parking lots. Oh you know what I'm saying. So when he did let me run the druics, I said, funk all the extra ship. Let me show him something. Let me not put my body and myself out there

and be on some beating up people's ship. I'm gonna stay right here, let me ride. And I'm in the hood, so I got to help building building low riders. So I'm I'm I'm in a in the in the on the right with the white boys cutting the metal to you know, redo the frames and ship. I'm seeing these motherfucker's cut I'm I'm watching my little homie Boomer. I just took dre uh low Rider that that ship he had in the chronic. I took everything over his ship

and put it in my little homie boomership. See what I'm saying, So now let me play with these motherfucker's, right, you feel me, But I'm showing them the pain. And then I got to show the homies and my brother that we're allowing this ship. We were doing this ship. You know. So when people, the homies started paying attention and saying that I was right, and all I had to do is argue with this dude to get a check. I don't have to be physical. I don't have to

do that. So when that happened, I'm cool. I'm right here. I ain't got to move. When when Snoop trial, I took that opportunity, I brung nine motherfucker's, but I had twenty motherfuckers on the roster. But I got paid for eleven other motherfuckers and just paid those nine and then still got my two undred fifty dollars a day. You feel me, I made over forty, you know what I'm saying. So I took advantage of my situation when it came man, I made I made a whole bunch of dollars. Guy,

you know six six too. When we did that. You know, I took motherfucker's to the back door that right there that meed for. He got paid. You know you won that got paid. You told me, my nigga, what no that? No? I did you know when when when you know, snoop trial, I had to give more money that way six six to they charging sixty five, seventy dollars at the door. It's fifteen Tucker's over here. I go to that fifteen checked this out. They tried to seventy five. I'm gonna

charge y'all sixty bucks a piece. Oh, y'all come on to the back that right right right, right, right right right. And I did like five six groups like that because in it, after all this you see and you're witnessing all these things, you saw the way where you knew how to maneuver once you got into the play. I

had to learn the game. You learn the game because listen, James, let me say this to you, though, man, I was really proud of y'all because we had never had nothing as big as is that in Compton and the way that thing came about. Although no, no, no, I'm saying I'm talking about the multimillion dollar corporation that you guys were right there. You guys was in Beverly Hills, and you know what, we were attached to it. We didn't have no part in it. We were we was attached

to it. That was ship. That show made it look good. Well not not when you come to the neighborhood. You ain't seen them below riders and that now, if all of us that's regular as hood ship. We should have been took out of that situation. You know, I grew up with JP. Yeah, and you know they grew up in Fruittown. Yeah, he's still over there. Yeah, and it's sister Peggy. I think it was Peggy. She was in the wheelchair. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. We actually went the Rolls

Crany together. If we we we that's the mistake we made, man. But you know, I mean we was young. And you know what, man, I want to say this man, because while we're on the internet doing crazy ship and clowning this ship, our life's expectancy is five years Lord and the white Man's the gotta be a reason for all that. And we're not sitting up here looking we should be at a um, we should be on alert mode, like something that's going on out of here, because we're dying

at alarming rates. Man, our kids. You hear something every day about somebody nineteen or twenty years old getting their ship pushed in, and it's like, we're not gonna have no future, bro, if the ship keep going away. It is because you keep hearing about cats getting knocked down to the age of nineteen twenty or either going to prison for the rest of their life. Dr cloud Ender just say, we're gonna become a permanent under class if

we don't wake up. We gotta wake up real quick because we just it's so easy to get our attention. All you have to do is go online and say fuck this nigga, Fuck that nigga, Fuck this nigga, fuck that nigga, and you go have a million people sitting there. You gonna have. You gonna have a million people sitting there looking at you make a buffoon out of yourself. But if you tell them each one of them people

and being people watching, hey, give me your dollar. I'm trying to put some ship together for the kids in company. You gonna get crickets. You get cricket, so we need to wake the funk up. That's we need that. Why why don't Oprah, Michael Jordan's, Robert Johnson, Maggie Johnson, just the name of the Dr Dre Diddy's jay Z. Why don't put the money together? You know? And they don't have to. And I'm gonna say this right here for them, guys, I'm just saying just the bill, So for us, I'm

gonna tell you this. This is something I know for a fact. Jay Z gives millions of dollars to talk about the giving part I'm talking about just to show an example on how to build Listen, my thing is this, A lot of people don't want the lights around them when they do ship. Some people do out there hard. I don't know. Easy used to give thousands of dollars away and not having no cameras around. You know, cats do stuff. But it's it's past that point of where

just giving away turkeys. I ain't talking about the niggas that go away and give out turkeys in the hood for a promo. Look, I'm talking about the cats that's going to go And really, all you're doing is putting a band aid on something. See I can go. I give a few thousand dollars to the youth. Leave says, I was a coach once and I had a program, so every year helped me on my taxes too. But I give two or three thousand dollars to a youth program.

Hey go buy some kids some helmets or what I learned, because a lot of times people get burnt out on giving ship. Because I'm gonna tell you I haven't had homies and had conversations with cats are saying, man, can you believe I did this and that? And the motherfucker's came like this ain't enough. First of all, nobody has opligated backwards. Though you know what, one mother, just stand up, one of these rich motherfucker's, just stand up, because you

got all these people following him. All he gotta do is stand up and then go to his hood and build that ship like some Lebron James, you know, he building this over here. He had the construction side every day, making sure the ship. Though James Lebron took his childhood friends, sent them to the college, y'all got their education degrees, and then he turned over the business. I'm gonna tell you something I'm working on right now. I was at a meeting last night. My son was up for the

Thorp Award and the Girl Ski Award. They talked about this cat is up on some other stuff. I got his NFL sell us what your son do. My son is a football player. He goes a University of Southern California. Man, that's awesome. So the thing is with him. His mindset is because what I did for purposely with him, even though I moved him to the suburbs of Downey when he started playing football. But you're not gonna be out here with these I'm taking you over here with them.

You gonna really play. We're gonna see what you make. Because you know, the first time he was playing, we was over in the little suburbs. He running through them dudes, clowning, and I'll say, okay, we're gonna see if you really got some. I'm gonna take you over here with these niggas, the starving, the little niggas. The starving wound up becoming his friends. Or what I did is I raised a wolf. He was in the suburbs and all that. Now, so his mind thing is this. His whole thing is he

got his homeboys getting their stuff together. He following the Lebron James path. He telling his home, but look, you're making a football nigger, But I need you to go to Elkore to take these glasses and learn how to run the press machine, learn how to do this and do that. This is gonna be your thing, dude. You're gonna be doing this. You're gonna be my chief of security and my assistant. Right he's working with the Mandela family right now. My son talked about building the school

right in content. Man, that's what's up. He went to Saint John Bosco. But he told me, he said, Dad, that experience ain't for every kid. Every kid is not gonna get acclimated through there. You know what I mean. It's just a certain amount of discipline to take to go to school like Bosco. So he's talking about and he got motivated from listening to this man right here talk about like schools and stuff. So he's talking about you know what, Dad, I got these people have got this.

I want you guys to take advantage of this to let's make a change. Let's really gonna make a change in the community and bring it there. Because he said, for me to go, I'm gonna bless my old high school. Mam a mater, but I need something for the kids that can't get there. Watch the essence of the wolf. Though the lion and tigre are more powerful, but the wolf don't perform in the circus. Have you ever seen

a wolf perform in a circus? Okay? Then, so when a wolf get around another wolf and see mal you caught that, you caught that? When I see it, I turned him into a wolf because my son is one of those classic dudes that could have went either way. My son. People are born like that. I truly believe they don't come out just like you know. My son was called by nature and not by choice. The show because my son was a type. When we first moved to Downing from North Long Beach, I had a mail box.

Found it. Yeah, big slips because he don't suck somebody up. He don't suck this cat up. And plus he had the long curlly here. So he said, Dad, I ain't want them to think I was soft, you know. So his thing is this. He identifies more with it. He identifies more with the cash from down there, even though he would tell you right now, I'm from the suburbs. Mom, Pops,

coolers help. My mom was there. I hadn't made but he knows it's more than that because I've made it my business to show him, like, nigga, you actually got a good these nigga is still going to it when you come home. And he used to trip out because his friends have come up from the team. We got all kinds of serial just normal stuff that you're supposed to have juiced to drink. His friends in there looking like I don't have this. It needs to be more.

And see, that's what we got to stop thinking the black people that we gotta stop looking at all the people have got money, his stuff that we could do ourselves. Ask yourself, when is the last time you went to volunteer your time for something else. I commend this nigga because he out here coaching kids. He don't have to be up to his kids in high school doing this thing. About to go to college in a few years. He don't got to be out there, but he's out there.

It's little things that you can do with your time, and time is so precious right now of this of essence, we're sitting up here making videos talking about this nigga and that nigga we better wake the funk up or it be deal. If you do it three sixty, you wind up in the same spot a little Charleston White. Charleston White put up what two hundred and fifty thousand

to get his butt out of that situation. Did he really was he really uh taking that for granted or did he appreciate that because he obviously he has some good parents or a good parents that loved him, and he showed him different. And that's what I don't want to do. I don't want to make this show all about Charleston yourself because right now we at a time

we're some million Charleston Whites in the country. Man. You see the um, you see the but you see that it all comes back to self hate because we can't stand each other. I'm gonna tell you something, If a white man comes in and says, Okay, I'm gonna give you a thousand, you a thousand, you a thousand, me a thousand, use your nigga, ain't good question ship. But if it come in with the same deal for y'all

might have better terms and everything. And they offered us the thoughts and we got to see what he's up to. He's trying to sneak in on us. We don't love each other. Dog. We don't protect each other because we don't respect each othercause we don't respect ourselves. That's what it all comes down. People, I ask that about everything. You know in situations, why or we like that towards each other? You know that's the same situation like we feel like here on on the West Coast as far

as music. Why we don't support each other like motherfucker's do in other places. What generation do we have to show it's different. What generation has stepped up and said, y'all not gonna be like this. This is how we was. But we're gonna teach y'all how to self love instead of self Hey, we're gonna teach y'all that game banging and all this and only kill y'all. Y'all only killing yourselves. We don't have a generation that's stepped up yet. And that during the time of slavery, we own one point

one percent of the wealth of this country. Two we still only have one point one percent. So if you go to Black demographics dot com, if you want to know any sus tectis about black people, those are the real thing. And we spend more cash in this country than any other race of people. Big consumers, consumers, never the builders, never the creatives. We always the consumers. How many times our dollar go around? Still a dollar circulates through our through our community never, but it circulates to

the white folks community times over. What are we doing wrong? You know what? What are you doing wrong? Man? And I'm gonna tell you this to to our brothers that own businesses out here, some of us got to step our stuff up to now. It ain't let me let me make a point, James, you have we we gotta step up as a people. It ain't just the business owners and people in power. We're walk into a store, right for some reason, we walk into Macy's. And if they if it's a certain on the wreck to say

it's two ars. We but if eight has a shirt, the product mind that he's putting out, he put it. He got fifty in box of niggas. I need that, homie, I need that. But Dyin's sitting on cash and no one in order nothing. If you're gonna support that man, purchase his products, don't come in expecting no discount. Don't come in expecting this And that come from because you're write, a lot of black people have eight doing something. Why would expect eight to give us? I just said it.

It comes back to the part of we don't like to support each other for us some fact that, Um, I don't want to see him making no money. But I don't mind if Macy's is making the same money that my state is backwards, because still could have Like I said, still could have product, James could have product. I expect James to give me a hat for free, but the same hat could be in in hat cap in the mall, and I'm gonna go spend forty. And it's just like the same way like we do this show.

Aid has a hell of a clothing manufacturing thing. I told eight, I said, man, let's do the gangs the chronicles else. To you, it just makes sense. Hello, he already got a thing. Why go around that? And our brother has the same thing right here to infrastructure to do it. Let's do it with him. And I'm gonna tell you another thing. It's like I got titled on my phone that's a black owned you know, a brother

found that company. You know. It's almost like they think the white man's water is colder, bro, Why can't we get a million and split it up a month? We man, that's what we're trying to do right here today. Why are you saying that. While you're saying that, man, I can't speak as I just signed the n d A. I'm doing that right now with some really powerful brother's dog and we are gonna take back control of media. We need to own radio, bro. We need to own radio.

We need to stop running the YouTube and all these other places not you know not and this ain't no not against YouTube, but we need our own ship, bro. We needed to control it, and we need to get together. We need a panel of people to start putting ship in check. Because I'm gonna tell you, we used to go down to Cleveland. I was raised in Cleveland. I came out to California when I was eighteen. But we have certain homies in the hood that they was almost

like the police. You went to them and this nigger don't broke into Ms. Johnson's house. He gotta ask from the next day, like, why are you breaking that woman's house? A dude don't shot this and the baby don't get a shot. That nigga come up thinking the next day we handled our own ship inside because it was some kind of structure. But when you got a generation of people, and I'm not gonna getting the thing because we got some great young people out there doing some incredible stuff.

But this generation, the majority of them, are thinking about themselves. How can I come up? How can I look big? Hell, I ain't got a problem with a brother making a dollar, but don't choose the lights and the views over the motherfucking money if they ain't making If they ain't making money, it don't make sense. There you go, man, s America. I'm I'm go ahead. Man, United Streets of America is

trying to implement that same idea. I mean, and we can't have enough of us doing it because at the end of the day, the more we have in the pod, the better than greenies, the better the food. So I think that, I mean, that's an excellent idea. I just hope, man, you don't lead a hood post man. And if you noticed with me, and I'm gonna tell you something. I've tried to pull brothers in. I've tried to pull brothers in.

I've tried to tell him what I was doing. But the first thing they want to say dyn and I'm gonna tell you all right now, our show do millions of downloads. I don't have to. I don't like I was doing good. It's doing good. So it's like, but no, it's not about that. I'm running with a point here. I get a motherfucker that don't have nothing going on to come and tell me. I'm trying to look out for him, and he looking at me like, man, you

know how come with this? And that? I said, Man, you gotta work, bro, I'm not gonna sit up here and do it for you. I'm not gonna do it for you. So I'm looking for motherfucker's that want to work if you're gonna do your ship the whole time. But every time I meet the motherfucker's like, so are you gonna be here to do this from me? You know, bro, I'm gonna sell you what with the thing I'm gonna give you this horse. You gotta put the saddle on

the ride that motherfucker though. Still, you know you gotta put the saddle And you're supposed to be interviewing YouTube there. How, I'm good. That's good. If we took for rich niggers from from the neighborhood, hood rich and just to go take five little kids nine to eighteen or nine to twenty and and and get permission to take him to this camp for a year and teach him for a whole year. It changed his mind. If it has changed

everything about it. And you're teaching them skills, you're teaching them how to read, you're teaching them everything that they don't know. See a lot of a lot of my bullshit and the way I felt, and I wouldn't. I wasn't too sure about myself because you know, being a game banker, fu reading writing, Fuck you know this? I don't. I don't want to do that. No, it wasn't It wasn't necessary. The only thing it was necessary. And being

in the hood is a gun. Don't If you're in the hood and don't got a gun, you you're losing. So that's that's that was my mentality. That was my thought. But if you if you take that what I was and what you was, and what you was, and and and bring it and flip it of to day to our kids, they don't have to see what we were at thirty. They don't have to see where we was at at forty they know they're gonna they know they're growing to be young men at nine. Yeah, exactly, and

just take him away from the situation. Now, now mail you from Compton, right, What neighborhood are you from? Or as you say, tribe are you from? Tribe to tribe? Is Santana Block? Okay? You from Santana Block? And you're obviously a well spoken, very eloquent dude, more intelligent than than a lot of these motherfucking professors. That hint the professor. You come from the same background these people come. How

did you become? Like, are you self educated? I'm self educated, But I had a father that was a disciplinary he was he was career um military, he was actually he was a ranger and um man. He didn't he wasn't a joke man like my partner to lead uh before.

His father the same military background. So he put some things in me that I probably wouldn't have never got if it wasn't for him, you know what I mean, Because he demonstrated to me that it wasn't cool to just be out there just dipping your hands sort of speaking, I'm using colloquial language with dipping your hand means letting people know that you got this blue rag, you got this thing. You know, everybody know that you that you

know what I mean. So he said it was better just to remain still, not using your neighbor in the moment, to where you can demonstrate who you were in the moment of that time. And that's you know. I got that from him. But also he would take us and said to me and my brothers, take us a citizen in the bed at night and tell us these amazing stories.

Because my father spoke German, he spoke a little uh Korean, and he spoke a little uh Spanish as well, So he would take us on these journeys around the world. And he would always say I've been around the world once and shook everybody hand twice. And he would just take us on it, man. And that fascinated me. And that's really important. And I think I think James makes a point. Man, we need to start with the kids,

you know. And when I say kids are I'm including them brothers that's eighteen and nineteen too, because they still kids at the moment. Somebody you show somebody something different. I remember when I started going to Europe and stuff and traveling, I was looking for pubs and coming. It was based in England, it broadened June had opportunity to travel when you first went overseas. Then to give you a whole different angle on everything. Hell no, see eight

is just the one of them. Was a definition because I was a Nigger who always wanted to be in Compton. Like I keep telling you, that was what I grew up in New You get me. So even though I was traveling and going on tour and all that, first thing I did when I got off the plane was wanted to go back to Compting And it wasn't. It was just the fact that of that was my sense of belonging because without that, they had the father in the household. You get me, James, was your pops at home.

I didn't have a pops at My daddy left when I shot my little brother, so I didn't I mean me, I didn't have a pops at home. My mom's worked from me elevin at night till seven in the morning. So you got a thirteen year old kid streets and when you got a sister, who know this nigga from this hood and this nigga from this hood, and now the niggas is coming over and they in the cars and they got the beepers on and niggas got straps and ship, I fascinated you. So the older I got,

I didn't. I wasn't thought I wasn't one of those niggas who did a lot of ship. I didn't go even though I was wrapping and ship. I didn't go hang out at the clubs. I didn't go like venturing rout and go the other nigga. I went to the hood. What we're doing dipping the day up Cranshaw here. So when I got overseas and start touring in Europe, I go do my shows and I'm ready to get back to the house to say And I think, because you didn't actually enjoy the experience and see what I did.

Always made it a point to go see stuff like right like when I went to um Rome and I saw with a gladiators fall that and I always thought them colors was a lot bigger. They looked like traps parts think not that thing. Not that. I think it took me getting older to start appreciate. Like now when I go overseas and I'm like, oh, yeah, we're going to check out the museum we're going to this and that and all that. But back then you're talking about

I was nineteen twenty years old. How many how many people in the hood can they even experience what y're talking about going to these different places? Not very many, not very many. And the sad part about it is these are places that people can go that's not that expensive. Like I tell people, like, when people see what's going on the case, they say, man, you bo, how you did it? I say, Bro, all to take is planning.

That's it. They got different programs. A lot of people, like you said, James, a lot of motherfucker's who're stuck in the hood and the mind states of like you said, who would who would ever experience that on a like just suck it. Let's just take a trip to Europe.

As far as a hood Nigga mentality is Vegas. Yeah, idea of taking trips was going to Vegas and like that in Vegas was fished for a lot of motherfucker's in the neighborhood that never been Yeah, you know, you know what it was too though, Bro, I think a lot of people are scared because I had a homeboy when I came to California, my homeboy that was actually a better football player than me. What's gonna talk about coming out? Right? He was gonna come out, but he

got scared of the last minute. Was like, what, man, I don't know. I heard they got niggas. There's cripts out there and I heard they got it. Ain't no different than niggas on the East side Cleveland killing up every damn thing. It's a difference because they moved different. He don't know. You don't know how these name is moving in California. And when once she touched down, some othercker's didn't got killed touching down out here and walking and that real cool. But it ain't like we're coming

out here on the other ship. We come to play football, so we're not coming out no other ship. And I still even with that, you can still get caught up because I got diverted, almost got diverted off my mission a couple of times because you meet different people out here, like I fine, you don't get mad about me saying this, But one of the niggers I've met there was a bad influence for me, was fine me And he wasn't a bad influence. He was just trying to help me.

The way he knew how he said, ohioway and got no bread. He go to second, I'm sure we did down here that because coming from out of town, your mentality is total different. Like you're seeing ship on TV. You're hearing ship, but that's some real life ship. Look like this man in comparison what I saw on TV, because I went and saw colors and all that ship, but where it came out. So I'm thinking, I'm looking

at that. Should I come on and say, man, that ship had a way share two experiences that made me go back to my roots, to what my dad and mom taught me. The first time it was four they did this um they called a gang city, right, and it was based on the summer Summer Olympics. So they came out here. They put together British broadcasting team and they came out here and they was the media had been selling that the Crypts and the pirus, we're going to be a disruption to the Summer Olympics, and the

media around the world brought into that. They bought it hook Line and Seeker and they came in and they targeted us, specifically this guy you probably know, Graves and some of them other people that was part of that oss stuff. They came to us and they bought us and we did you know, and they interviewed us during that time. But parts of them somewhere down the line in the interview the y'all ascess the question what didn't we feel about the summer Olympics. But at that time

it's four Cocaine's. We looked at him, said, man, we don't care nothing about that. We got this right here. But all that I'm seeing all those things was transitions into one moment into a next that led us further and further down the rabbit hole. And what I mean because at that time, the prison and the prison industrial complex was they was putting money behind it. They was they was building them, they were setting them up because they were setting up for the big payback exactly, and

everybody made money off that Olympic board. The second time is that I'm actually a survivor of police batality because remember you had the stony boards, you had to live Withers, and then you had the institutioners, right, and these people actually trying to take my life. In the nineteen eighty nine February, the fourth team, it was Valentine's Jay and I'm telling them, but they was gunning at me. They

was gonna at me. But I had a will and and just a just a sense of survival, and I was like, I wasn't gonna go down like that, you know what I mean, That's just what my mindset was. But it made me realize a few things that I was just I needed to get away from where I was going and get back to what I was taught. And once I got back to where I was taught, then I begin to like really gravitate towards Uh John Henry Clark, Uh and um Dr Claude Anderson, Francis Quels

Wilson and Amos Anderson and Nami mcbar. I'm trying to take in all this information because now I'm hungry for something else. Instead of being hungry for the street life, I became hungry for the knowledge which was my father was giving me from an early on stage. And I went back to that and that helped me change my perspective and help me look at things a lot better

than what I was seeing. And I eventually outgrew a lot of things that was connected us from being in the hood and accepting all the things that were along with that. You know what I mean, because in the Hood, you gotta sept the burder, you gotta sept the the main hand, you gotta sept the girls cheating on you got that said, the hood took you to take us under because you have to learn how to uh. If you want to become a better individual, better man, you

have to learn how to leave certain ship behind. And sometimes it's funked up because it takes tragic situations for us to go fun that ship. I gotta leave this ship along, like you said one time, trying to suck you over. That's what made you go, I need to get away from this, James. It was a situation to where you said, funk all this ship, the death row ship, the mob ship, all that. I can't do this ship no more. Still, same thing with you. I gotta get the funk up out of the North Long Beach. Saw

that ship. And if I keep doing this, yeah, because you become a produgence. I'm gonna check this out. I'm gonna do for other stake. And I don't make friends but healthy niggas this bloods and crypton because I'm not I'm looking at them as just men. The homies. I'm not viewing them is what they are, but I'm noticing. Okay, man, let's go to lake withood Mala blittle on me like he know, you know, he's like, hell no, I talked to the one homie eight man. Let's go out here

to the thing that the big mall like that. Man, are you crazy? I can't go out there and you don't say, I'm gonna get stumped up? So what you fully understanding these boundaries and things. I got a good idea of it, and that's what made me say funk that I like moving around to being a free spin. We're about to shut stuff down. Man, let me ask you this mail and I ain't gonna ask what do we do because that's corny, this ship being going on since the beginning of time, and then to continue on.

When can't we do as a collective? I think we need to get the house together first, though I get hit up with so many people have got incredible foundations and stuff like that. I'm ready to start dealing with these brothers out here, and one thing out we all saying, contrary with some of the people out there believe we just don't have the O G S on the show. I don't try to reach out to some of your young niggas, But what happens here us with our people

again themselves? Hey, I don't have people book to come on the show. I look up, they ain't on our show. But they don't Lad, they don't Addam twenty two or whatever like that. So again it's a white man's ice cold or not. Those dudes got the credible platforms. They ain't meet this and them, But exactly show our platform the same respect that you show them. If you do a zoom with us, don't have the windows down this

ship and doing all this other ship. Because if you had the plans for one of the white boys, you would be in front of your house, in front of your things like this, with your fans crossed, answering every question as intelligen as you could. It wouldn't be the hold on one second, my nigger. It's because they look at each other. We look at each other. It's lesser

than all the time. We gotta get out of there. Well, hopefully you wouldn't answer like some of the people that's been the guests on Adam twenty two and Glad, and you would be more respective of your culture which you come from. So what I would say is that we gotta get away from the ancestral trauma that's on all of us from the old you know, because we still even the kids today they're fighting beefs that was established

way back that they have absolutely nothing. I think you gotta master those lessons that's been that's there, and then you gotta cultivate some space for you for the abundant to flow. You can't continue to live your life based on with me James A and yourself. Did you gotta create a new dynamic because we're living in a time where things are moving and this this progress that we got going on this world right now. Man, it's being so quick man, because five things that advanced this world

more than anything that science, mathematic, biology, kentially physics. When you got those five principles on your side, you can't losing this game called life, which your platform platform and Maile to Hood Postman. You know the vibe is d A and the Postman and Hood h O O D P O S T M A M be sure to tap in. Also, you're not the streets of America, My brother the Brothers, Bride Dog and HERU and let me give a shout out to my boy General bas for

giving me the shirt right here. That's right. But you know he out there, Texas fan. He got his own brand. He's actually doing some things with people over in France. He's um, you know, so he's up and coming. And man, what can I say there? Man, he didn't want to come on the Man before before we're leading here man, Me and Lea talking there every morning. Man, right he made me with mine said, man, you're calling me man,

I'm trying to get my peace Man shirts. You know you you know, you know the biggest shirt man that you need the five acts. And that was legendary right here because I got the Homi big leaf for there. Who don't talk on camera, who don't do nothing, the old school like that was going on and everything just look at the news everything. But he is the one that told me, he said, mail the streets is undefeated, absolutely undefeated. Who y'all know that beat the streets? Now,

I don't know nobody, nobody. We don't ask you before we go tell me why don't we have you on the show? Though? You got me now you know I'm right here part Yeah, we're gonna do a part too, because I got a lot to say about Lee, and Lee actually helped me a whole line in the streets. Uh. I remember the time when could nobody talk to me but Lee come and he had me. That's the voice of reason, right, reasons the way they should be saying.

You know what I mean. He has a very very interest to look when it comes to this, looking at the situation for what it is and then giving you the definition. Man. When I first started this ship, man, I can't take this ship. I don't know what Man, these people tripping jags. You gotta look at it like this. You know, I always told you you be trippings and and he is straight me out. You know what I'm saying A show. I learned a lot then and now you know what I'm saying the show. I learned how

to be patient doing this this ship right here show. Yeah, we're gonna do it too. You definitely feel in on this. Man. Shout out to stand Shepherd man for that book keeping. Yeah, band down of the Rag got to lead TV. Ready, Well that said man, that's another that's another uh episode. We're gonna take us out of here still man. Later, Jim, Well, that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the i Heart app and subscribe

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