EP 111 Circle of Power

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You know, we was having a cold conversation the other day and I tell James that some of them conversations we all be having the offline kind of make perfect episode. So let's sink up the phone and say this ship for the show, we were talking about the whole just premise of somebody having power and how that thirst for power has led to murder, mayhem and all kinds of other stuff. And I guess tonight we're gonna talk about why why some people just feel this and they need

to be in control of the situation. Because in any um and any kind of structured thing, you can have a hierarchy. You can have a guy that's the top, a dude that's in the middle, and the guy that's like the work of got us at the bottom. Everybody got to play their part in order for that whole machine to work, you know what I mean, not just the boss, but the middle people and the one to end. What why why do y'all think that is? Everybody wants to be in power, even a little man wants to power.

Point is you got it in the hood, you got it in politics, you got it all over the place. Um, you always got to have somebody in power. But that person you put in power, I want to keep the power. You got people that got power and don't know how to use power. They abuse it. You got. You got motherfucker's that's at the top that don't you shouldn't have power. And with power comes self destructions, with power comes comes

everything above that. You know everybody can't do it. But you got cats that envy the motherfucker that got power. You got cats that I don't think that person should be in power and think they should be in power. Everybody want that recognition. And I don't give a funk what it is. I don't, I don't, I don't care what situation you got going on, if you're selling on the block, if you in prison, if you just just just run a Gaboner check and something. Somebody. Everybody wants

to be in power. Everybody wants to take that next step. Everybody, well a lot of the people I know, the majority of the motherfucker's wants to be that that do And if you look at it, that dude is the one that shining. Everybody want to be the one that shine. And you know, you got a lot of motherfucker's out there that you know, if they just just just saying in our group, it's somebody that's mad or won't that want to be in that seat. I think we had

this before you came eight. You know, it was Catch that wanted that seat and was Pistolf because they knew where it was going, They know what it's about, and they wanted to get there. They wanted they wanted that because regardless of what you do, like most motherfucker's in the hood, you know, they're not looked at us the big homie or that nigger or that motherfucking hood. But everybody know all the just from the hood, somebody's gonna

put much. Somebody's gonna try to bring your name down because they want that spot instead of just getting in there and being that motherfucker. You know, they everybody won't shoot the easy way. You know what I think about that, James, I think is a false sense of there's a false power. Is almost like a phony construct because see everybody look at the person that's on top, like that's the spot I want, but they don't know what that person is

going through this at the top. You know, they got a phrase heavy as the head that wears the crime. It's the reason, you know, there's the reason that saying come existed. Because you do to the top, that means more than likely you to do is taken all the stress from the situation. You're the one that gotta, you know, make sure that the ends is straight, that the money

is straight, and everything else like that. Sometimes people want these they're not really They don't know what they're asking for when they say they want that power, because there's a lot of bullshit to come with it. That's why get the power. One don't know how to handle it. I mean power. Sometimes with power, you know, with having power and having that position, it's sometimes it's misleading because it makes people who they really aren't, you know, and

say if you ain't really that motherfucker. Being in a position of power might make you feel that authority or something, you know, and a lot of niggas quest to be that authority's figure. You feel me um, you know. But if you come from the walks of life we come from, you know, power is earned, you know what I'm saying, Because niggas a lot of niggas feel like that brings you that respect or it brings you whatever. But like you said, some niggas can't deal with the power structure.

Some niggas can't even a manifest being in power because it gets to taking over them and it gets to control of them in a way that sometimes leave people a lot of motherfucker's fucked up behind it, O man. And you see situations like that all the time. You've seen We've seen one of the greatest record labels and probably the past Spike probably you know, since Barry Gordon them, shouldn't them be? The death throw was incredible. Definitely they

really had this man's going down. You know, just talking to James about some of the stuff that happened over there, it definitely seemed like it was a power struggle. No. Well, once he seen the power that he had, he didn't know how to channel that. He didn't he never had that type of power. And there's a lot of motherfucker's that that once they get that power or get in a position, they turned into a bugsy signal. They turned

into you know that guy. You know what I'm saying, Just like police officers, Doug, you can have a motherfucker been bullied off through school, all through high school. The girls didn't like him the whole nine. Not a police officer that give him a sense of power and someone check that power and run with it. Now that I can do the ship that motherfucker's did to me. You know what I'm saying, that's power. What you can't do

outside of that bad Now I'm the point. I'm in a position where I can show force that I'm that motherfucker and that's all power is. But some some people just don't need to possess it. They can't, they can't deal with it. Yeah, some real serious stuff. When you know, me and James I had thought we kind of had a little debate about it. I think that black people, I think we tried, but people, I really think that this stuff goes way back to Africa. You know, we

got tribes in Africa. It reminds me the same thing that we got over you got this neighborhood over here. You've got this neighborhood right here, these group of people, and you've got that group of people. I think it's the same construct man. I think that, um, it's the same thing you got everybody. And just like people, especially in the streets, they're pushing for something that ain't really nothing that's real at tangible. You mean, he's like, Okay,

you're the top dog in the neighborhood. Now what you're gonna do with it? You don't own one of these big things over here. You don't own nothing. You just really just got a title this parbab. You'll get your head knocked off from the next man that want that spot. Power ain't no fantasy dog power is all around you. That ain't no fantasy bullshit. Powers all around you. Motherfucker's

possessed power that you just can't imagine. Some motherfucker's in the hood to go to to being the hood and have and be able to go to any motherfucking neighborhood of of of your choice, just say, hey, being a crypt and you got that power. You got that strength. When you go to different homies hoods and they nigga, your money ain't no good here, and nigga, we got you, man, that's problem. But the homies just looking like damn the bitches on my nigga like that. The homies is treating me,

We gotta buya ship. They showing him blood power. Niggas don't like that. If you treat me like that, treat all of us like that. But you know, niggas don't see it that way, you know. So if you got a cat that and is wanting every munch, every hood is pretty much got damned there. The same ran the same way, got the same type of typical brothers in it, the whole nine. All this ship is just pretty much the same ship. But now it's getting to a point.

Every year and in the hood, every year in school it gets watered down because at some point that gangster grows up, that gangstand there no more. So you always got somebody to take the place of that real motherfucker or that motherfucker that's in power. Should I say, you see what I'm saying, So it don't it, don't die, It don't die. You just got motherfucker's that's waiting to be in position a half power, and you got more. Some motherfucker's can't wait to get the power, so figure

away how to get there sooner. So James would me, you was having this conversation yesterday, do you think that that's in all circles? And I know because it's definitely power that goes up inside of these buildings, you know, the record labels and everything else. It's definitely a hierarchy. It's definitely make anything happen he wanted to without asking nobody's permission. Then you guys, guys, that's permission for certain stuff.

They power is limited, you feel what I'm saying. So this is I guess this is a question for both of y'all, and either one of y'all can answer this. Do you think it's possible for a situation to grow without somebody trying to come up or do you think it's inevitable that that's what happened forre go ahead, they as far as what as far as is as trying to somebody trying to be in that position and power

can something manifested? Yeah, it all depends on It all depends on who the person is, if he's if he's not a subject to that. You know, if everybody's on the same page and come to the table and they don't nobody have the ego that they have to be in a greater position than the next. I mean, there's a lot of situations where motherfucker's go into business or or construction together where I mean, we all feel like

we're partners, just like we're here. Nobody has a position of power, feel like it's like, oh, well he got the lead over me or whatever. Everything is co equal. So if you got dudes who can manifest that from the gate and everybody's after the same goal. You just have to watch it because everything turns. You get me.

Outside influences funk up a lot of ship. You get me some motherfucker's might be in your ear that might not be in the next motherfucker ear telling you you could be this man in position or this man in power. It's all about how the way you perceive it. Like I said, if you want to be one hundred with a nigger, it's up to you. To be one hundred, you gotta feel like your ego has to overtake the thing.

And that's that's gonna suck up from the key right there, and it ain't gonna be able to be that situation. You just have to find. To me, you just have to find niggas that's one hundred, and you'll be able to deal with type of ships like that. I mean, but talking cheap, you know what I'm saying. Actions prove a lot more than what niggas saying. You got a whole lot of brothers, just say, artists, you know you got, you got maybe forecasts in the group, you got podcasts

in the group. It ain't too many that survived their careers without breaking up because power kicks in and one once more than the other. You see it in on the Temptations, Show me a uh A show a true story that like the Temptation story power no addition power with all the every group that I've seen, somebody gets mad because somebody wants the power. Somebody want to be

bigger than the next man. You feel me. It's just it's just a process, and everybody want to go through that process, whether we I feel like we're on the same page, which the majority of brothers just do. But at some point somebody's gonna feel like, I'm not getting the same recognition as this brother. I'm not getting with the whoop like he's getting I'm not getting. Is my money the same? Oh they're on me or they're doing this, And everybody wants to possess the power, everybody, and it's

it's just it's a cycle. We can't run from it. At somebody has to be in control at some point. And that's where like with gangster chronicles, knowing you you in control, We got this handle, but somebody has to take Somebody gotta be frontline, you know what I'm saying. And here I mean I don't see one of us feeling like, oh, doing this right, right, So that's what it is. But in every situation that Island dealt with and every situation that I don't seen, power is a

motherfucker and it all destroy everything. Power and money destroys everything, you know what I'm saying. We were speaking on sugar earlier. The only thing that that that destroyed should Knight was power. He had all the motherfucking money in the world, but he wanted to be a part of something he shouldn't have. He should have dealt with the money he shouldn't have never done with the the hands to cup bulls ship, you feel me. But the power that he had that

he never had and now he possess it. You motherfucker's can't touch me. I'm that motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. And it destroys every motherfucking by that's been in power. Sooner or later it catches your asses. Somebody gonna get that ass or you get voted out. And look at Donald Trump. He has so much motherfucking power. Why do you think that motherfucker act like that? Because he ain't

shipped without that power. That was power. But this is what I feel like this right, I think everybody has to play and to know who they are, and you gotta be one with yourself. Eight, don't damn there one Grammys before. Don't sold me as a record. You got some of the biggest interviews online, shames you know, you don't broke the internet. You know, got closer damn there, you know, sixty seven million views on stuff, you know. I mean, so I played in my opposition like this.

I have people like me on the show. But I've never had no problem with somebody saying polishing against the chronicles because of Big James and m c A. I'm telling them like, hey, come on, I don't care what just listen exactly. So I've never had the thought like, man, I wish I could pop like James. I wish I could be up there popping like hey, because I don't look at none of that. Yeah, you can't. And that's

what I'm saying. That's why I think it is possible, like eight was saying earlier, as long as you would have don't look at it like that exactly. The first thing, you can't be jealous. You can't be envious of another nigga's success whatever there is. I mean, we've all done ship before. We got together and we have to congratulate

each other on that. But in some circles, motherfucker's get jealous of your success and and sometimes it be the motherfucker right up under you who's upset with your success. And that kind of puzzles a lot of motherfucker's because you just want to be a normal mother's pucker, you feel me. I don't want to be the nigger in the position of power to give the orders and stay all this ship. Nigga. I just wanted I control what IE control. But a lot of niggas are envious of

your success. That's where we have jealousy and a lot of a lot of that bullshit that goes on. So once again, if you're able to handle being in a position of power, then it can go great for everyone that's around you. But then, like I said, there's some niggas who egos take effect and that power, that power surge, right, man, I ain't getting enough money or this motherfucker getting all

this and getting it all that. So egos play a lot of part and niggas who wanted to capture the power ship and when you, like you said, sometimes with motherfucking a position of power, and they just get crazy and they don't know how to control it. That's we get to turn in on motherfucker's motherfucker's getting going like you ain't the motherfucker I knew a year ago. You know, you don't. Got a little money and got a little position. Now you want to start talking ship through me crazy?

You know, that's when power gets the fucking up because the ego. So I think if you deal with niggas who are straightforward and just one hunting and everybody after the same goal of trying to be successful, get money on the table to feed your family and not try to outdo the next motherfucker, then that's when power never plays a position in the in there, you get me, because none of us are after that position of power. Like I don't give a funk about that ship you

get me. I don't give a funk who in control or who say you are to sign what or whatever. Long as the nigga getting paid and everything is straight, then we're good. Yeah, you know, and and thing you'll check this out because on them, I know, and and I ain't talking to put their business out there, but I was. I used to listen to the Joe Buttons podcast right, found out man after eight years that they're not around no more, just because him and his homies

or whatever fell out or whatever like that. So he just put the show on. Patreona fired them two kits, and it's like, man, you know when I see stuff like that, it's just like, damn, you have to really man keep eagles in check and anything that comes in. And like you said, hey, you said the key thing, well use the Aptor's dog. It's a motherfucker on the outside all the time. They really won't just see the whole ship break up anywhere. They James here e James,

you know want you want? They still want the whole time. They're just sitting around starting a bunch of mess and use the situations get tour niggas like that dog that don't have no able to replace it. In the Podlint said, powers just is it's a delicate road to walk, man. People always want your position, especially and you ain't even trying to be in a position like that. I'm not trying to be the power man, the king pin or whatever.

I just you know, motherfucker's coming together because they feel chemistry works, and that's what happens um, but you, like I said, it's always a motherfucker on the outside looking in who wants to be a part of what you control and because they want to, they want to put their hand in your cookie jars. Is basically, uh like, when you deal with motherfucker's who don't want to be that stand out or not trying to be that, you get get me that motherfucker. Team players is what I

call them. Motherfucker. If you're a team player, then your longevity kind of works along. That's how I say about me in the music business and how I'm able to steal cap making records and people whatever, because just being humble in your longevity and not trying to be somebody that you not. Like I said, I've never I've never wanted to be in a position of of h I want to be able to control this and I say this and crack them with this, and you know some

people can't handle that. Uh. Myself, I just want to be who I am as far as I don't need that claim of power and being in that position of being that number one or whatever, and especially in the position to get to telling motherfucker's what to do and ship like I said, because they bring egos and then you kind of that can kind of lose you at a point, especially when there's money involved and you know it's people around you that knew you before the success

and ship you get the kind of forgetting that they was around before the successful ship and now you want to get the ordering them around and telling them what you can and Katon, you know, I'm a grown man and I don't feel none of that ship should the fact, if you're a grown man, then you shouldn't be trying to be in control of another motherfucking telling another motherfucker

what to do. But then again, you know some people letting, some people let that ship happen because they want to be around that motherfucker who's claiming to be in power. You gave me, yeah for sure, all the all the time it might benefit me to, uh, you know, kiss the ass of the nigga who's in power. Yeah. And you know what, I don't see that pursuit of power

destroyed way more situations than it is built. Because when you have you've got some people that know how to use Powericy power is a good thing if using the correct way. If you got power, man, and you're sitting on these up with jobs and you're doing a lot of good people and stuff like that. That's from power is a good thing. When power is a bad thing,

you get motherfucker's like eight off come and play. When eight off Hitler first hit the scene, he didn't come out there talking about, you know, doing all this and that's all the pover mayhem. He calls. He got people to slowly follow him and believe in his calls. The next thing you know, he was a manman some people Hitler was a perpetrator's goddamnselves. And once people found out who he truly was, he he went on the run

to with all the power he had. Good night. He was a motherfucker too that had power, and it caught up with him. Yeah, motherfucker abused this power. That's why I caught up with him, because he used his power for for bullshit. You get me. It's it's it's the way you control being in that position because a lot of people people put you in those positions. You get me, You don't get there because of yourself and whatever is usually the time people put you in those positions of power.

But then you tend to forget the because once you get there, man, the whole motherfucking script change. But and then it takes motherfucker's to expose your true self and knock you down a little bit for you to come

back to reality. So it all depends on who you are and if you want that position now, if you want to be in that position, and you're able to open doors for motherfucker's and create jobs and be able to create motherfucker ship on the positive level, and sometimes being in power can be positive, you give me, especially if it's dealing with the white motherfucker's and you can pull some ship for us brothers and benefit us for a lot of ship, then being in power can go,

you know, both ways. My homeboy, Mr meets me too. Loud Crewer told me someone day, right, He said that when you get a motherfucker that seemed like they change when they get power, money and stuff like that. He said, that person name changing, they just able to show who they really are. Now you're seeing the real them when they get the showing out. He said, they've been that person, but they couldn't talk all that ship before when it was you know, the broke righty of nigga. Not that

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pretty much in charge. You charge the United States, but you're pretty much probably the most powerful motherfucker on the planet. I mean our government, Our government is powerful. A lot of people already say that when you when you're dealing with the United States and the president, you're dealing with one of the top so you already thrust into the

position of power. But like you said, as with history and with our presidency is concerned, a lot of those situations get manipulated because once motherfucker's sit in that seat and knowing you and that much power, you get to doing a lot of back doorship that you think and that ain't gonna come to light, but a lot of the times they do, because when you got that much power, it's just always motherfucker's who are ready to up you

know that. It's it's a lot of motherfucker's are who want to destroy that because being in the presidency, you know, you already got sides with Democrats and Republicans and liberals, and you know, then you gotta deal with motherfucker's outside the country who feel like our ship is just as fucked up as it is anyway, because we're always trying to dig take our ship amongst people. So um, being in that position of power, ship United States is in power when it comes to that type of ship, you know.

And and just imagine how much ship has gotten away with because you're in that position of power ship when you talk about the government and the presidency and ship like that, you're talking about with the most powerful motherfucker you get me. And even when they still try to do ship to motherfucker's or impeach them or bring them up on some ship, what do a motherfucker usually do? They usually resign or motherfuckers try to go after them

and get them impeaching and ship still don't work. So to me, that's the biggest motherfucker see the power right there, Well, I would saying Trump is the most motherfucking gangster president we ever had. And you saw what they did when he did when he motherfucker's fried. I teach him. He had all them people lass and he's still talking ship to motherfucker's. If you funk with me, I ain't gonna get your ass. He's still out there. Don't get the

funked up. I mean, James, dude, do you think that that that Trump was our most gangster is like manipulated or ship president. I'm sure it's the motherfucker's that's something done some crazy ship out there. I'm pretty sure no Trump was gangs. Trumps focus motherfucking mind. Trump said what he wanted to say, and he gambled every time, and every time he gambled, he wont. He wont all the way to the end. They tried to kick him out,

this motherfucker. They tried to do him. Man, he won every time a time come on and talk ship, and he talked ship too. He let motherfucker's you know, he told that motherfucker and Georgia, Hey, man, if you don't do what I say, he called him a pump to do the phone said, if you don't sign this bill, you go, he'll ask for have problems. Trump didn't give a Trump didn't give two fox. Trump was the most banks the motherfucker we ever had in office. We did

is he played everybody's hand. He showed everybody's hand. At the end of the day, because the white sucrimineship came out tenfolds. You've got caring's that came out. You got all kinds of ship came out because of Donald Trump. You feel me. People in law enforcement came out because of Donald Trump showed their racism, showed all that ship. Every racist motherfuck out here came out and showed who

they truly are. Your neighbors showed who they truly are because Donald Trump was your president and they thought and believed in that dude. One motherfucker. That man had power and he still gotta and he still gotta follow him and shames nothing to keep going back. I don't want to keep going back the ship. But he's a perfect case. Mooon and somebody that got the power. You know what, I'm saying that went to him. When did you first

start noticing the changes within him? Like, when did you start notinging like the power kind of getting to him when he went from a green suit to a red one, when he started taking pictures for magazines, when he just just you know, to change any man, when he wanted to deal and when he started dealing with different people you know, from the hoods. He just felt like that dude. And you know she didn't understand it was the money that that that brung everybody toward him, that gravitate the

to him. And that's that's why the niggas was with you. And money is a motherfucker. Money is a rule of all evil. And you had a cat that was able to buy that. You know what I'm saying, somebody in power that had power like that. Um, you know, I really don't want to speak on shot I said that. You know, I'm tired of talking about gangster princles. I'm tired of my foot is off ship now, dog, I ain't got no show. I'm you know, she'll during time

and she'll gain't helping nobody out here. She'll get coaching. No chaos, No chaos. He had something that a lot of motherfucker's wanted, bro and that was power. From nothing to power is a motherfucker. But like I tell anybody, everybody can't possess or cannot be in power because they never felt it. And once they get it, they ain't gonna neither act. And it's gonna bring you down, you know what I'm saying, Probably gonna show the truth you at the end of the day, it shows can't help me.

You can't go around it, can't go around it. Yeah, you know the biggest thing what you just say, exams not you said that earlier. You get to see people who they truly are for theirselves. Sometimes it ain't man The majority of people that that that are being placed and put in power have never broke bread in such a manner. Let's say Donald Trump, Donald Trump and never fought for this country. You know what I'm saying. He ran from from being drafted. You know, he ain't never

fought a war. So I don't even funk about that, you know what I'm saying. So if you ain't never broke bread with certain things in your life, and then here you are a part of it, and you're you're the head motherfucking you don't know, and you just react to everything that comes towards you, and your youth comes out. You know what I'm saying. Donald Trump wasn't a politician. Donald Trump was a businessman. From a businessman to a powerful the most powerful man in the world, fucked him up.

And even with his businesses, you gotta think about up. He had a certain level of gangster reason to his business practices. He ran his businesses. That's how he ran his businesses, you know, Donald Trump. For him to just say, you know, Donald Trump a running three four million dollar building five bankruptcy on your ass, Now that's in gangs of ship right there. No, I mean, I ain't even tripping up to do bank account because a lot of

motherfucker's in power ain't rich like that. You got power, uh power, you got street power, you got politician power, you got you got all different types of power, but it all runs out of the same motherfucking electricity. It's the same ship though, no matter how you cut it. You got uh mafia power. You got all kind of power.

But just look at it. How many motherfucker's you know that you can obviously say, still possess that power you know what, I don't think it's I think it's a lot of people that think they got power but don't

really run ship. You can't think you got power of you ain't running nothing, brother, If you ain't got a bunch of motherfuckers behind you and you you you can see at your desk and say do this and do that, or you can tell the motherfucker to write this and send it there, or you can make a threat and and and make big on it. You ain't in power if you can't do that, and you ain't if you

can see that, that's a different type of power. I think you almost got to separate the street ship and the other ship because what I'm talking about them dudes that may have let's say the supervisor of the market, you know how, motherfucker might get a promotion and start acting funny with everybody, start threatening motherfucker's if you don't have your ass in here early, you fired you out of here and all that ship same counsel. Yeah, but I think that's a motherfucker that got a false sense

of powers. He don't know that motherfucker's still walk outside the job and get his ass wof. You feel what I'm saying the motherfucker, but the motherfucker who don't went to power, don't think that. He don't think he and walk outside and get his ass whoops. I don't think that when I'm in a position of power, because I'll be thinking, how dare you? You're gonna nigam nigga in power, so you're gonna try to fuck me up because I

haven't told you. You You gotta do something. It's some people who abuse the power and you can't do that because if you don't abuse it, then you don't have motherfucker's who are ready to kick your ass outside when you walk out the door. You feel me. It's one way of being in power and having respect for motherfucker's. Got a motherfucker be willing to work for you and do ship because they play in their position. I know what

position I'm in. You know, maybe one day I'll be in power, but right now I know the position in But that comes with that comes with a different side, because the motherfuckering power gotta have the same respect for you. You get me. He can't have that motherfucking head like nigga.

It's all me, It's all me, You get me. That's gonna have a motherfucker ready to pop your ass or do something to you when you walk out the door to oppose to the motherfucker who's empowered to go, hey man, I'm gonna do this for you and we're gonna make this type of ship happen because I like what you've been doing and I want to see you come up. That's the motherfucker who's gonna fight for you. Even though they know you here and they're there, they're gonna be

trying to work and get there. But if you got the motherfucker who want to be here and want to keep your ass down here, that's the motherfucker that's gonna hate you because you're abusing your power now. Because let's not forget motherfucker. You were standing right here with me, not just last year, you get me. You were standing

in the same position you were. I was there last year when we were trying to piece up on the same forties or piece up on the same whatever, or we was in the same business class and something just happened and you were able to get that position over me. But don't start acting like, motherfucker, I don't know who you are. That's when you get a lot of hatred and a lot of bullshit because like nigga, I know you,

you get me. That's where that comes from. For the motherfucker's who, like you said, for the motherfucker who get in power, and then the nigga be ready to beat his ass outside when he walked outside the office. You gotta be the same. You gotta be a humble nigger and power also, you get me because it's niggas that's still down there who got to do the sweeping or the hard lifting or the carrying. They still here and

they see you every day. So you can't forget where you come from to when you be in that position of power. Yeah, and that's what I was saying, that that that a good leader. It's gonna almost half an over abundance of people that want to work with him just because he does the right ship. So it is so so we all both seeing the same ship. This the people are getting power of Northern handling. It definitely is.

And then his motherfucker's who get in power, who want to see you fall under, so they're gonna have you doing all kind of bullshit. You give me just to keep their hands clean. You give me that's the motherfucking power to I want this ship done, this ship, did that ship done? And then I'm gonna trying to stay the clean man. You know, it's different positions of power. That motherfucker's You know, you have to watch you because

let's just face it, it changes a motherfucker. Like we say, money changes a motherfucker, and all that time, nigga power change and nigga overnight, like nigga, the same nigga who was taking out the trash with me yesterday is thinking he the biggest motherfucker in the world today. That's what power do to you real, you know. On another note, man, something that really fucked me up, and I'll see a lot of people got a problem with it. Man. You see Tim t Boy about to get picked up again, right,

I saw that. Yeah, he's about to get you know erbra Mark, old college coach giving him a shot at a tight end. And I see all the stuff come out with the brothers, not like, howcome kat ain't got no shot, you know what I mean? How coome cat ain't got no Let's that But listen, that's Urban Meyer's power. He's able to bring a motherfucker in and played for him thirty years ago and bring him in and say, nigger,

I'm in this position. I want him to start. Now, there's other motherfucker's who out here busting their ass who've been buying to get this shot, but Urban Meyer's power allows him to go, Nah, I want that motherfucker. I mean, there, there, you have it. It's all it's all different positions of power. You get me, who's gonna tell him that he can't. Who's gonna say no, you can't sign this motherfucker. Who's gonna tell him that? And that's why I'm glad. I'm

glad you cut. I'm glad you cut that easy looking because that's what I was gonna say. Urban Mars has the power to bring him in. That was his You know, he played for Urban Mars in Florida one champions played. He want to want the two national championships for Urban Meyers. So I don't give a funk if it's twenty years later, if if this motherfucker has been somebody who's always been in my hip pocket, and I've always said, if I get in that position of power, I'm gonna put you on. Motherfucker.

What do you think he'd didn't put you on, man. You know they was talking about him. My thing was different. I'm not gonna hating home because he went out and got the job, you know what I'm saying. He when I then got him a contract. I hope he made the team. I thought Tim t Bow was a good football player. I just didn't think he was an NFL. He's a great college quarterback. But he's a great football player. Man. Why is everybody? Man? I mean, that's that's that's that's

one of the biggest problems we have. We get mad and ship when somebody else made it. We don't congratulate. We we get mad and ship. We hate that ship or we want to put another motherfucking next beside and say he's greater than the next month. It don't matter, It don't matter. See somebody to give kaepern Nick his ship. But I don't know, you know what the thing it was and what people gotta remember to aid because you know, I'll be studying this shape. Colin Kaepernick is good. Colin

Kaepernick make a whole lot of money. Though he makes a whole bunch of money off speaking engagements and everything else, he is far from poor. He is far from core and he's not broken. Exjames, Like you said, people always worried about some ship that don't really have nothing to do with them. And uh, I noticed, man, where we're

getting out. Man, we at a very pivotal place man in this country right now as far as being black people, man, far as being black to where really we don't want to turn everything into an issue about black and white, even though it does going on. I'm saying, don't know should happened, but everything isn't about black and white all the time. Well, I look at it like this. You see Kaepernick on the sideline. Why is he on the sideline? And all of this ship came you know, he had

a purpose and this purpose was one honey. So when all of this ship that came out and all of this, you know, George Floyd and all of this ship, everybody should have wanted to give him a job, get him man back his motherfucking job. He was right, and he proved everybody across this motherfucking across the board right. So what what what's the fucking problem? You know what I'm saying, Ain't nobody willing to admit that they was fucking wrong?

And I think you will. I think Kaeth Nick will get back in the league if you want to come back in because at this point games none of us really know if Kathy, do you want to come back in the NFL? At this point, you know what I mean, nobody knows. Nobody knows that that dude wants to come back and not and and he's doing good forself. But everything about black and white all the time, I really just think it's and I think it might be some other stuff born with kat Who knows what's going on

in the minds of the NFL. You know what I mean? Right when you say black and white, it's this is a black and white issue, you know what. Um. I think with Colin Kaepernick it was a more of um of people not understanding the issue of turning into some black and white stuff. I think what he did was noble and I think that what he did was in Colin Kaepernick's case, he chose to exercise his reaching power.

Again we got that word power right. He chose to use his reaching power to make a statement about something that he saw that was wrong. And I think that was very noble of him. And um, you know, so, whether the NFL brings him me in or not, He's probably made a way bigger statement as a activist than he ever could have as a player. This dude put it all on the mine and got on his knees and said, I'm not you know, I'm not going for this ship no more. It's a lot of ship going on,

and I'm not going for this bullshit no more. Funk, this contract, fun everything else. He chose to make a stand and he got a lot of He made a lot of noise when he did it. Don't you think you're saying he made a lot of noise. But then, like you said, the powers that be has has has not allowed him in the further his profession. So that's unfortunate.

Like you said, being in puff, being in power, you control a lot of ship when you on that aspect, and with the NFL failed, you know, there's there's no black owners or nothing like that. So yeah, I come So that's the way it is. I mean, like you said, who knows if he even wants to come back to the NFL, but probably at this point he just like fuck it right right about now. I mean, I've said what I had to say, I've advocated for ship, I've

done what I had to do. So that's it with James mcntle still an m C and we're back with the gainst the Chronicles podcast is promised. Man, we in here man with a T M s on Big Gift's cracking. Bro, How you doing, kid? What's up? Back upon his motherfucker? Man? Oh thank you? Man. I see man, we could clear

tonight O for shure. Yeah. And what I wanted to do, man, is like, because you know, it's being so many of you guys, you don't get a chance to ask all the questions that you really want to have because everything has pertained to the group at that time. We have fans and you know, hitting us up. Man, y'all gotta get big get back in because y'alln't asking about this. Y'all ask them about this. You ain't asking about that. Said okay on trip we got you. Okay, So we're

gonna go back to night. Man, probably ask you some stuff. Man, hopefully ain't nobody else ever asked you before. Okay, we'll go back to the basics. Man, you being a kid, you were born in Atlanta, right, yeah, going, you're born the raised You're being the kid in Atlanta. Man, What made you decide to pick up the microphone? What made me decide to pick up the microphone? Well, first of all, a guy moved to my neighborhood named Ray Murray. Ray Murray is also a member of Organized Lords. Shout up

to Ray Ray Murray. Um so well, Ray Murray moved to my neighborhood. Ray Murray was the first person to show me a drum machine. At the same time, in my neighborhood, it was a lady named Gene carn during the seventies. She had a song called Closer Than Close. Well, she stayed on the back street in my neighborhood. Her son was my friend. His name was Joseph Carr m

from there. The first time I went over to his house, it was five guys playing and then in her and in her driveway they were playing basketball and I asked my friend and I said, Joe, who is that? And he turned around and told me he said, that's a new edition they opening up for my mom as in the Islands. That was the first time that I saw and I met a group from there. That lady started taking me two shows. Peobo Bryson was her was her cousin. I met people Brison in her house. I met Steve

Wonderer house. From there, she started taking me to the shows with her. I remember one time she said, Yo, I'm gonna take you to my daughter. She had a younger daughter named Miriam. Mhm. She said, Miriam's having a birthday party. Can you go? I went with him that night and she had a birthday at the putting at the Pulton County Stadium. The people that had that she had the birthday party with was with it was Jackson Fine.

Oh wow, so he was around musical royalty. Now yeah, so I so really I came in looking at singers, looking at singers do their thing, um being being very much impressed with the way that she she had an outfits, the way she did her shoes. That's what GET learned all this stuff about being an entertainer. Wow. And I was gonna say that because one of the things that does stand out the box you with your fashion selection. Yeah, you mother some of the most swaggys outfits of all time,

you know what I mean? And so you get it from it comes from that time because that era R and B artist used to be like it was like um like um, what was the word that like it was like it was like a theatrical ensemble. Yeah, like it was. It was parliament. It was like it was about expressing yourself, you know. Irbin and Fire was about you looking like the music. And at the time, people used to ask me all the time, like get where did you get your style from? Now? Something I got

from her. But the other part of a gift style comprom wrestling. My Grandmoma used to take me seventeen. So I got to see Rick Flenn, I got to see the role boys. I got to see Austin Ido, you know what I mean. I got to see the wrestlers that they missed. And one thing I learned about them, and one thing that I picked up from them was showman shield, So I incorporated that into the round. You

know what, that's real interests. And you say that, man, because me and my god brother j Bobcat was talking another day and he said, man, rapping number pro wrestling shot off shot out about Big Bro Bobcat and he said,

rapping number pro Wrestling Man. Some of the most curiosmatic characters of all time, Junkyard Dog, the Road Warriors, you know what he's going, Bundy Broke, you know I mean, you know what I'm saying, ros You know what I'm saying, A man, how many how many rappers have had borrowed from Dustin Rhodes, like barred from Rick Fleair, like like they styled that the mouthpiece was just impeccable back then.

I tell you, I'm fifty years old. Nice to watch n w A came on TV, NUP Wrestling, and w E ship ain't got shipped on n w wad Man keen Ric Flair come out there with the thing, and he the man, he got his came on. Man, he got a brow all on his arm. And you're talking that this ship. Man, it wasn't it wasn't like it. Dog, it wasn't I like it, man, especially during them days. And I got to see Andre the Giant Line, so you know, I got to see people like the Barbarian,

you know, the Number two, the Great Kabuki. You know what I mean. You're talking about some old school ship. That's a real nineteen n w A ship right there, Dog. Because I went downtown of the Cleveland Arena. My mom had told me if I wanted this weight lifting competition, she was gonna buy me tickets to go see King Can Bunney. It was keeping Buney against Jake. Why the junkyard dog. I don't want to remember. When King Kong Bunney he turned good for a minute and on all

the holies. At the end of the show, something happened, you know, jumped in the ring. Fundy turned on j Y d and and then the mother I used to jump off the rope and the splash on. I said, he's gonna kill jump yard dog. So you need not know when it's a little kid dog, I'm thinking junkyard dog. Don't guy broke off. But he wrestling and Cleveland against King Kong Bundy, and that's when King called Bundy had the challenge that any man that can body slam and

then give him a million dollars. You remember that had him on the rocks. Jade got on all fours towards end and start hitting him with the little here bunting them. You know what I'm jumping all for. He got up King Kom Bundy because this already ended. J Wade slung into the road, came back and picked this big ends and slammed him. That was all this memory of my life. Dog.

And when he bounded is a boundary in then he was man and so you know I could definitely man, it all makes sense now, man, because a lot of people that was the number one question. Where did you get your fashion sense from? And it makes sense now Ye be in the wrong. The R and B C. The ladies of the molded you and you was around stars. So that's where you start. When you learned how the kids show you know, you know, project your charisma, that's

where getting That's where I get it from. This lady name Gene Card and she uh, she gave, She gave us everything. She was the first person to buy equipment. You know, she put a studio on her for her son. I mean when the first person that we performed for was Brian read for the Face Records when they first got to town, and you know from them, it was just like we just put our work in, man and to it came around to us our time to go over. Sure. So so let me keep on going with this song.

You see, the member of the Dungeon family had broke me in already. Did you know the other group members at this time? Did you already know them? Yeah? Me, Timoko, Joe. We all went to school together and made high school. Uh Clod dropped out in the ninth grade. But we always knew Low. We knew local. Low was always hating with the older kids, so you know, like, um, I remember one day I went over to Southwest Atlanta and

Coo Joe Good. It was just him a Low battle And from that time I've seen a Low step back and started singing. And that was the first time I ever seen anybody do anything like that. So I ran back to organize nor it's and I said, yo, bro, it's just look dude on the west side, man, he's singing wrap. I ain't never seen nothing like it before.

And that week they brought Low to the dungeon. Outcast was already there, and once Low came, I think the synergy of everything it just started from there because Low Andre three thousand and Big Boy, they're all the same age, Lower and Lowering three thousand, being knowing each other since alternative school, so you know, like them last years of them being in school, they was an alternative school. Big Boy had to stay in school or he was gonna

get sent back to Savallao. So Big Boy he graduated with a three point eight, you know, a school so he did very well. Dre. Dre went back after the outcast came back, came out and got his g d Oh wow, man, you know it's crazy man. It's like I think some of them guys man are so creative they can't function in the normal school setting. It's just too slow for them. Almost. Yeah, it's always been like that, like when you get to know people like Low and

people like both of them geminis. Yeah, man, they very They very about what they won't. They understand what they won't even if the world don't see it. They know what they won't already. The motherfucker's sure. So me being atars, I understand them very much. And I and uh. It was great to just watch them blurve. It was great to watch them then then turn into what they turned into. It was like one day we got a carpo rico. He said, Yo, Bray rate Bray yelled up to Uh,

to my job, man, these two kids coming over. My sisters told me abody to go to try Cities. I want to play some music, see if they're good enough. Happy to be the drain I played. I played, uh the Docts Effects remix in my conform and they wrapped to it went off and the rest of history. Wow. Man, so y'all just you know what, Let's let's go to that Dungeon Family thing for a minute, man, because that was the most I would say, man, that was the first on the Dungeon Family was the first like super

producer crew in the South. Yeah, they predate these about a pound and you know all of them. And they really showed that the producer man is the one behind the music. Guinea labelers are really flourished. Always has a big one main producer or a group of producers behind it. About that energy, because you're talking about some legendary stuff now, man, it's like I'm just a fly on the wall right now. Well it was so ain't about organized. It was like

um sleeping which is uh sleepy Brown. You know his father is the is the lead single brick. I didn't know that. Yes, that's his fathers. So you gotta understand it from his father being the lead single brick, me coming from gene corn Street and Enrico being the equivalent of what puck dad he is in the South. Rica always been streetcat Rico with driving his old schools to middle school. Yea, always had his own car. He always had his own money, so it's right. Rica always been

our leader in that sense. He was the one that he big rule about the first drum machine. Rico got us the dungeon and then he moved twenty five guys in with his mom and his two sisters, and the using never stopped until we gotta deal. And that's crazy. How long was that process? At least from U N to ninety four. There's worth a lot of and and and all the reasonal people stayed the course. That was different at the beginning to the end. Huh. Yeah, like

all of us been together since we've been kids. That's dope, man, that's I think that's the difference between Dudget family and everybody else. Everybody else came in the in the industry, they were put together. We came together. Yea. It was more organic. And that's what you can tell them about the ways because you know, nowadays you try to get a group of kids together and try to get them,

you know, somewhere in developing everything. If a man shaken by that, the next month, they already talking about breaking up and bouncing. Yeah, that's uh. I think that's the world we live in. Everybody a d d they ain't got no time for nothing. But you know doing that time, you know, you know, I heroes with Scott Face. You know, I said, I hear those was with Ghetto Boys. I

hear rose. While we was doing the Outcast first album, we were listening to eight Ball m j G Crawled the Bricks album and we were listening to Big Mike so serious. Oh Big Mike, man, you know, not to cut you off, dog. Big Mike got one of the most slamming the Southern plastics ever. Because you gotta remember he had the perfect set up because I heard him when I was playing ball in school and the Convicts when he was with LOWERD three too. Yeah, I was like,

who was this dude? Because he always had like that little stutter step float to him. It was just differently anything else that was especially coming from the South at that time. You know. Yeah, you know when he the King and I love Willie you to death, will don't put hands on the dog when you see me. When Willie you left the Ghetto Boards, when took when he took one of the Get the Boys, I said, oh man, he give a face to run for his month. Yeah

he uh, I really do think that that album. He came in, he filled in for with a D. He stepped up and he he could. He took that, He took that piece and he read with You know, he was a great edition to ghetto boys at that time, you know exactly. You know, not to go got work two months off a bunch of music, man, But you gotta give it up to that time. And it saw it was a special time because all these records was

coming out, the sound of like movies. Yeah, it was a special time because I tell people that's doing them times. You you only had the team. There wasn't in it. So to be able to look at people cup like you came now, or to look at somebody else swag or how they're doing it or what they mentioned with

you didn't have that. All you had was your heart and what you wanted to do with hip hop and and listening to Mike Dean and and Pimp C. I tell people all the time, we lost Pimp, we lost the sound, yeah exactly, the only one that produced with that organ, you know what I mean. So he put that church and he put that South in it exactly, can key word that church. Yeah, man, put that church in and I you know, like I really do feel

like Beasts by the Pound. Uh. A lot of the producers back then, everybody, I just think, cared about their presentation. They cared about the music. And at the same time we still had the elders that were still coming in and laying them real sounds on that music during that time. M exactly. And you know one thing I wanted to say, man, about the South, it's very all of us from the church. Man, I don't care where you are. If you're a black person, man,

you got some roots in the church somewhere. I don't care if you're the biggest heating on the planet to the church and you can get all the music like Pimp C with the Oregon it was Steve from the church. Man. Yeah. You know one thing, man, this is one of the questions I had, man, being a member of a group. It's always like, um, I ain't gonna say a hard thing, but you're dealing with a lot of different personalities. Yeah. Yeah, you're dealing with so many different personalities and some of

them is right. Sometimes everybody right, they just feel that way. When you were stepped away from the group for a minute, what was your feeling did you just want to express yourself more. Did you feel like, man, I gotta I gotta get Michael, get mine off real quick. Well, I can tell you this, Uh, I was busting the doing that you know at the time, because you know, people don't understand it. It was just a weird time for us. You gotta imagine this. We dropped, we dropped get rich

to this, we dropped the album. The album sell eight hundred thousand in the first two months. At that same time, see leads the group, mm hmm. At that same time. L A. Reid was in school during that time. So just imagine that everything is fine. We got a number one record in l A. We're on the way to l A and we get a call and they tell us that l A just sold the face m right in the middle of your ship, Right in the middle WI ship, right, So just imagine this. You got two

albums with outcasts out. This is our second album, and the label is saying that they're not even there anymore. So just imagine waking up and every way that you would learned how to promote your music, all the people, all the chickness, circuit places, the shows, the people you deal with, everything changed overnight. Wow, man, that had to be up feeling in the world. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like with the number one record and your label,

Like yo, La Face is not here no more. Uh, it's as huh we don't even know them, you know what I mean. So just imagine now when l A get to New York. He went to New York and he just took Pink with him from the lake. M hm. So just imagine when he get to New York. He like, Yo, I'm gonna get ce Long solo deal and give the solo deal. And I was like, what, well, now, I ain't gonna do that. You go here to put Celo out.

I'm gonna go to Cots. I'm gonna get a label deal, put myself out, the group out, and and the other two they wanted in the Lumberjacks. I want to did a deal over that soul A hundred thousands. He did closet free, I did happing out. He did good. I did good on the Independence. At the same time, I'm running from the love on some other ship. So I get on the plane and I go to l A. I'm walking down the street, I run into I leave. I leave, like yo, Nelly recording up on Susset. Come

to the house, meet NELLI. I go to the house, I meet Nelly. We record three songs that night. I called Conscious, say yo, Nili just offered me a deal. I'm gonna go with more, so I leave catch. I jumped on the road with Nelly. We dropped his first record, that Win Gold. We dropped Uh the Dirty and t Uh label album, That Win Go. We came back with switch Suit that dropped. That's sold eight million, and then we dropped Grills. That's so nine me y'alls on the road. No,

we was on the road. There were we We went around the world and it was so funny that we was gone for five years. And then I ran in the sea low in New York. M I was. I was getting the number one record from b M I for having the number one record, and he was getting the number one record award for having crazy. First time we ever saw each other five years, he walked up and started fixing my clothes. What you've been doing it? Bro? You all right? He said, Man, we're gonna do another album.

At times, I said cool seeing this thing. I know ship he called me. It was like, yo, you know I want you to come overseas with me. I wouldn't lived overseas with him. And man, we recorded, we we recorded Fuck you were Bruno Marr went around the world again. That's crazy. It's a beautiful thing though. Yeah, we were. And that's what people don't understand. Even when we was having that beef if really never was really with us.

It was with our record company. How much work we had put it in around and nobody ever really gave us that time of day. You know, everybody was us man,

Like everybody was scared of the mob we had. We had two or three photo shoots to go missing, you know, because people were just scared our expression of what we wanted to express about, you know, ship me out because a lot of people be tricking you know, bro, the way people view hip hop and the way I watched other people do hip hop, I ain't never approached it like that. I remember Pimp used to tell me all timeble like, man, get you need to get on the

egg help. I'd be like, no, you do it better to be shouting ship yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, he'd be ready to get you going. I'm like, no, I can't do that. Shout I represent something else. And you gotta understand, at that time change or were good in mob and then it comes master p because cash money things would change it. And it got a little bit you know what, and this ain't no not to them.

It got real ignorant. It got real like um and it was almost like employed man, like I set up see y'all scared society man, because you gotta remember what y'all first single was, dog don't nobody come out with the first single call self Therapy Man where they just really telling the truth from talking about the stuff that's going on the world and all the secret codes and stuff like that. You know that's here. The white folks don't.

And we were We were never their friends. And when street raps started beating, what we knew was at another level. We knew that it was. It wasn't about what we wanted, is about what the system wanted at the time, you know. And you know, I said back and I watched stuff and I'd be like, wow, they'll make this type of music,

uh there popular. But as as you see, during that time, they all turned their back on they never they never rewarded him, they never because they knew that that was something that they that it was changing the spectrum of what we were doing, trying to put an intelligent, rapperd thing, and then it was like they were going that way to bring the mentality back down, you know what I mean, because you know, and you gotta look at this, man,

I truly believe. Man, the music effects are moved and the way we moved and everything in society it went from being about the hustler to being about being yeah. Yeah, and if you notice that are at the same time you started getting songs about people drinking the Promethe zone popping peels and now it's at all time, how I'm just waiting for the song people come on talking about shooting the rain. I'm waiting for it. I mean, that's

why already that that's perfect it, Yeah exactly. You know said, ain't that promises even that leaning stuff is killing a whole bunch of people, man. But what y'all represented, y'all representative intelligence man at a time that was needed, man, because y'all was a strong representation for the soft, and at one time it could be debatable if the soft had the best lyricists coming from down that way. Yeah, And that's and you gotta think about it, man, Like

we kept hitting them, folks, says nine of four. We kept hitting them for every year. If it wasn't uhing was outcares. We hit them for for teen years straight. They could not they it wasn't nothing they could do, you know what I mean? And I'm talking like what it well, we was we Our first tour was the routs and the foolges mm hmm. If you if you used to put us on the scale, they've been gone, the rules been on TV. Man. I've been only here

in the months since nine in four. Man, they ain't never like me because I really presented did just like this everything that everybody look at these other people for right now and say, oh they're so dope. They just that. It's like we were saying that ship twenty years ago, what become focus? Say they got some money now to attach it to, but the message were still the same. So so when you attach the money to it, then

you can listen. But then again, hey, man, even the one they get the money to, they an't run nothing. They so so so far away from reality. Man. They only thing. Many ain't been to the corner show Stowbody twenty years. So people were the average person out here going through they don't you know mean so for me personally, I feel like God just give it good m all the perfect career because he kept us relevant for twenty years and say, hey man, you might not get yours

right now, but you get your soon. And man to read to read reinvigorated this whole thing during the pandemic, to to find that the world, hey man, we didn't make no parties on the cape, that the world finally catching up to what we met with our first song and for it to come into place where we ourselves had to live it. It's like ship man, God real,

you know, it's very real all day. And if you don't believe that, if you gonna find out one day for sure, you go for shure, find doctors, you go meet up for sure, and you will be judged and and and just think about the person like me that winded up and that seal therapy and that pandemic and said, why not our song came alive? The song came a line twenty year later. Yeah, y'all definitely predicted some stuff, man, Like if they came a live twenty year later than me. Everything, Yes,

that I think real might be really. Oh man, I'm gonna tell you, man, I can get deep with you right now. Get this a whole bunch of stuff they started to discover. They just gonna sleeve in there that it might do, this alien life. But ain't nobody paying attention. You know why, because and it's gonna sound hypocritical, they're too busy watching ship with other people got going on,

and ain't nobody's paying attention. I'm making the point to watch the actual news and see what's going on around the world because they pretty much don't see it, that this alien life and they're seeing these spaceships, they're seeing stuff. And you know what they say in the Bible about that. That means you know, it's that means that that that means that, uh, George Clinton ain't crazy, Oh no, not

at all, no dog. That means that what George told you, he said he's seen he's seen m M. So he was the only black man that during that time they were walking up out the spaceship because he said he seen one. Tell you twenty five years later that they real. But then when my father went to the Wars and and over in the in the Gulf during the nineties, he came back with pictures and showed me, son, it's

it's spaciops on the walls over there. Now, how would them people know to write that on the wall that they've seen a thirty them drawings a thousand years old? Why would them folks right something on the wall they ain't too They tell you they've been here, they tell you they live here. Everything they say, it's over twenty some species of them. Now we go back to some

of the movies when we were in the seventies. It was a movie that Roddy Roddy Piper was in put put on them glass and to see them people don't first talking optimistic people and all that other stuff. The reptiion racing all that. Man, we can get deep on the motherfucker's you know some other ship. I think y'all was on the people. You know what don't get I'm

gonna tell you more. People starting to believe and stuff they start to see, man, because the thing hells when you look at stuff, just like the president, every single president don't be in the office is related somehow. Dog. That's right there where the white black don't don't it's flue. Obama says his as was related to them too, your mind. That's why he could deal with it so well. That's why he never broke cold. That you never got that.

They never could make him act like a black. They never could make him act like what they call a nigga, because he already been trained for the job. Oh yeah, for sure, from the time he came up from the Chicago Ranges, a charismatic city councilman rose with the presser. It was all the plan, dog, it was gonna happen. You know how you come up out of Chicago. The president come up out of Chicago and is the worst sitting in the United States when it comes to guns lines.

That's on perfect mm hmm. And those white folks went out of vote for him and droves. Yeah, because he was safe and he was bad by the right, by by a certain group of white folks, you know what I mean. So with that being said, he was safe and he was a person that they deemed safe, you know what I mean. So that's why I say, even with music, that's why, bro, I ain't never wrote a dish rap, you know, I ain't never wrote a dish rap to another round. You know what, man, it's funny

as you say that. Always thought that was like and I understand about the whole or the hip hop man, but my thing is this, if somebody would say something about me on the record, I'm a holler at them in person. If we got a real issue like that. All they thought that was like giving niggas advertisement because because in the nineties King, you know, you know where we come from, you know, it would get to and it wasn't know it was actually on time. It was

it was so many time being on tour. You g came in and takes the boar them big boy and get the rum that man, you gotta get out of the way, man. So back then it wasn't no cameras. Wasn't that you know, folks got to it, you know what I mean, you talk that we're gonna straighten that ship, you know what, respect like this. Mone I ain't never put nobody out there, but I don't seen a couple of vicious as spokens and some of these new catching

the world. I'm like, for you put mind the folks, for I tell the truth about what happened in l A at the time, working that club. I'd be chipping about a lot of that king when I really be fine, and I would be like, man, a lot of the folks to be time, but they gangster. There so many stories and they ain't got rag tag and and put over folk head and slam that I did be like, Man, hey man, let me tell you they ain't touched good in moms since we've been in the game. Man, it

ain't been no motherfucking distortion. It ain't been nothing. Anybody who was supposed to be the head motherful during that time. Get when it's set with him, look straight down like man, it ain't no hole over him, ain't no hope, you know what I mean. So I look, I look at a lot of things. They're like the kids, ain't they're killing over nothing? Oh man, they're killing over nothing, man. And I'm gonna tell you, like, this is the biggest thing. This is what I always told my kids. I said, listen,

the bullies mouth bleeds just like yours do that. Man, you can't take your heart. Never let no man treats you like you squad the feet because he believes just like you do. You even think in the mouth, whether you win lose a draw, They're not gonna mess with you no more. Stores and it was so funny. But l g that why a lot of time gift can't real to say nothing, because see a lot of the things are going on in the industry right now. You know, you know one they that I learned about the den

the devil served too. The devil he give gifts too. He gives power to a lot of it, a whole lot of you seeing his manager, seeing his works manifest dearly in front of your eyes, and and and I know, just just look at everybody who famous king, everybody who got all the money, so much death around mm hmm. That's just true. It's the fact. Because I'm gonna tell you something. The gifts that Satan give dog, they got a price tag on the man. They got a price

tag on the gifts Dad, give man their turn. They're not gonna never go nowhere. They ain't gonna be no trickery. It ain't gonna be on everything. It's like I used to be a big fan of the Twilight Zone, right and there was a cattle that there was a gambler. He went into this one spot. Man he was hitting him, he was shaming and winning everything. Dude found out he was dead and he thought he was in heaven. He was like, man, I'm tired of win him like everything

he bet he would win. And the dude said, well, man, you are in other place and was laughing at him. You know what I mean? So to defin would give you what you think you want, but he's gonna give it to you. Man. The worst way possible to think about this as much bloody d folks say they got what if you got some money, where you're gonna go no where? Ship? That's some real stuff. Man, if you got you got some more money, And so my why

are you gonna go? Know what? Ship? What makes the mother was just stay in your face when it's plenty of being there as a meeting. There's out here you'd never meet him, but never know him. So why y'all so addicted to the fame you're almost gotta in the light because you're scared of the dog exactly. And they can't telling you dog, that is because of the love of the music, right, It ain't that because I don't know him. Plenty of Scarface put our albums dog or

don't do no promo, damn. And you don't see him nowhere. You just know he got a record out yeah, you might see him here and there on this and that, man, But you know, Scarface fan bases buys music. You know, they ain't gotta see no bunch of music videos by him. But these guys are addicted to the light. Man. But I mean they're addicted to all this right here, man, and then get I'm gonna tell you like this, if you know there's two A lot of these cats ain't

got the bread that they think they do. Yeah, well, well you know what it is. They ain't got the bread they say they do. And they really don't know about people that most partnerships. A lot of these vials and see how don't know everybody's business, but I know about certain things. People that we'll be talking hearing this stuff, or they tech giants they're doing this and that. No, it's a management team of people behind them using him

as the face. This thing out. We don't get it twisted heat baby, but he's the pip and he's talking to say this and say come back and do this and do that. It's a lot of that came. Just imagine this. How can somebody say they're the biggest drug deal in the world. I don't nobody that that everybody get read on, ran up on shut him. That's it, hey man, speak on the gift, speak on the man. You gotta look where it comes from. Everything comes from New y'all, man, the first police. Oh that hip hop

that she comes from New y'all. So you know the first rappers. They were working with them, poblic the sweet, the sweep the streets of the other rappers so they wouldn't get famous. And you come up, hey man, he was so shocked at the Takashi six nine ship. It was while you were shocked, you know, I'm saying everybody was so shocked, right, I said, man, y'all, she just saw this coming to model the way I'll believe this nig You know this, his ass gonna slid off again

and kind of disappear. I think he's been working with them people though. Well he always was, Okay, they always was, because see they pulled him in the room and said they're gonna pay him to go through it. Yeah, somebody go through jail to act like they got them and they got them going to college. He wouldn't their mother. He like he was at the lot. He got brown. He buying cars? Who what what motheruck buy? A car from the pedal pan and he had a plant and

I'm gonna tell you this. And I told somebody this and they got man shout out to my partner Glasses Malan luckily m saying, man, this nigga is gonna come out of steal sale records and steal do what we did, because don't nobody give a funk about no codes, no ship. And then then he came out and that's the first thing to look he is said, we don't care. He told me because he had to. He should have told me. And I said, oh my god, it's over with niggas like us. Yeah. But at the same time too, this

is what you gotta look at you. He was blew up on the internet. He was blew up on YouTube. Who controlled YouTube? Oh man, we already know what time you know, I'll cut in, Okay, So I go to jail. I got the whole stories on TMZ for a whole year. Person sitting in jail, how do we mother it news articles while you're sitting in the federal pin But they're doing good news articles. But you know, TIMZ, keep pressing up, keep your name in the press. Come on, can't nobody

like me do that kind of stuff. No, not at all. They want to love so so at the end of the day, you already know he had control. He controlled he on the team. They just they just had to make him look like, ain't nobody with him. He's let me ask you, if you think about it, Takashi, it ain't been one record company exact nowhere around him to say to connect him with somebody. That's the reason why you know he's somebody being well, I'm gonna tell you this.

You know what they did. You know, the person that owns Universal Music, Um, his son is this, you know what I'm saying. So he talk about like he's at a level you know, universal music and think they controlled something like eighty five some of the world's music or some ship like that. Yeah, yeah, so he being with sub' do he talk motherfucker's at the top of that motherfucker. And at the time, you gotta look at it like this. They look at him, and they look at him. First

of all, they looked at him like a commodity. They looked at him like, wow, the look the little Captain Brooklyn crunk this energy up. But they put him right in jail with him. They sat back and said he the right color. He the right color where you could take this man and destroy every street code with him, because at the end of the day, you can always say he ain't built like that, he was just playing a role. As long as he wasn't black, you didn't

have that kind of goddamn cold built in him. As far as as long as he was something else that he could always say, Hey, man, them folks did something to me, and I did something to them, and he polke to hear me that what it is? You know what I mean? So that's that's where we're going with it at this time. That's why you gotta understand, man, what are you in this music game? Artists? Are you in this music game to be uh? A mascot? Because let's saying like this, most of them up for the

right now. The mascots we're doing, we're doing compilation alms, we're buying up the billboard and we can't produce nothing, no right, no, no saying or wrap nothing. But we're supposed to be a pop preach, give preach. You can know what it is, bro, And I truly believe it's a lot of people think it's a conspiracy James at I'm sorry, man, I ain't trying to go of course, but man, do you know how many what's it called? Man? Not an induction, but it's about the dudes out here

really selling make souls for this ship. Give yeah, and they're cool. We're giving the manhood and everything else. Dog, it's a lot of deep stories about some of your heroes. You know. I can't never speak on this, but I do. That's why you know, That's why you know King, that's why you know certain people a pick for the job. But I want you to but I want you to understand something too. Their music don't mean no when it's old. Don't mean nothing, that's all. It's like Micael wade Fold.

They don't never mean nothing when it's old. And at the end of the day, if you don't make music, they're gonna be deeper than the skin. You just you just a moment anyway, You're just so. When Rico said, hey, man, we're gonna record y'all first album and Curtis made for your house, I knew that once that man started walking and start riding up in that in that weird checking looking on from that and in that studio we knew we had somebody to impress. We had to Chris him.

So y'all actually recorded in Curtis Mayfield's creative in his house. Yeah. Can I tell you something. Curtis Mayfield is my most favorite artists of all time, Like over everybody, over, every rapper, over, every R and B. Dude, Curtis Mayfield is my guy, right man. He took me in his room. He showed me the original recordings a super fly. He had them all on his wall, and he took me into his and to his to his close, and he said, Gil, get that sweatsuit right there. I want you to have that.

That's the sweatsuit that wold on soul for Come oh man, for real, that's Curtis may for a sweatsuit the gage. And that's crazy. Man. So you ain't been around just you know what, King you blessed man. You've been around some of you know, not just hip hop roarty man, but music roalthy period. You know, Curtis Mayfield, man, just to the way you came in the game. Man, I don't want to like divert nothing, man, but I want to take it somewhere because I really feel like the

music y'all made it was so original. Didn't nobody to know how to Like to me, y'all had a sound. It was almost like from all the space or some ship. Yeah, it was great because it made it well. Curtis told us, say, you know you're great when the music industry can't duplication. Mm hmm. That's the real ship, man, he said, think about my ear of guilt. It wasn't no copies. You

had to be great. You had to be great. It was different, man, it was a certain time in hip hop because I know people always talk about they go near, and I hate when they just specified to go near to one region. But it was a time the nineties man, that were Everything that was coming out was different. It had some substance to it, dog and it was great. Ship. It was just great. They killed that because they couldn't duplicate it. They couldn't duplicate it, so they killed it,

you know what I mean. They could stay still controlled it from uptop. At the same time, That's why I wanted, you know, when they run them lists off talking about this man, this man, that man, look Man them forehead one album, Man Get Out of Here Man Them fore had one album man, no come out that man, they've probably had a consecutive album. But but that he didn't live a long enough and but that he had wound. So but hey, man, when you put albums up against everybody,

I'll say, great, man, we smoked all y'all top team. Man, come on in. I can't at pop wreckers. Wait for Jake got to the edge to the end on bro, we're talking about miss Jackson. We're talking about balls over bad Dad. We're talk my pop reppers. Now you had one. Rest of them were rap repers. Them boys kept dropping pop record at the pop wrecker at the pop record. Yeah, they was just wrap charts. They was on the like music charts. They was. They was beating Britney Spears, right bro.

So so I when they'd be talking all this ship, I'd be like, man, we don't need wrap like that. So so to be to say the day the best, okay, up down, but now here you're not even gonna live down his face that in his space, baby, you know what I mean? Then we can go. Then you can talk about something mel you know what I mean. But in the South, bro, its face, that's that's my era. Anything came out during that time I look at as

my peer. I didn't listen to dopeboard rap. I never if you did dope board rap, I didn't by your dope bood route because I had my own bomb and I had my own Cadillac. When I came in the game with six coaches that no bowls. Man, y'all boy didn't had cars. Huh, we were. We were doing that at six team, man. I was doing that at six team man. But wave, but we got in the rap game. Y'all didn't get no cars till you got in the

rap game. So we come from a different place anyway. Man, like some of them, some of them dope boys, bros, fantasies they you know that man. You know, hey, how we came up. I dope boy, Well, old raws and pick up man. You needn't see the money. You don't even see nothing clean. Bro. But the big old Knight man you don't and he talked to nobody comes through big Mama house, slap everybody out with the do to keep going. Man, you know, let me ask you this man, because us it was a lot of it was a

lot of hatership. Now I'm gonta, I ain't gonna be politically correct, and then there was a lot of hatership that used to go on back in the day. Right, it going on now you see it, you're going on. Now you do versus and you ain't got nothing from the shot man. Come over, man, oh man, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you something is deep. It was a versus set up dog with like um. It was a versus set up with Crazy Bone and DJ Paul was gonna do one representing three six Mafia against

Bone Thugs. Harmony would have been crazy, right, guess what Paul and Crazy was gonna do it in their own and then start picking up the momentum. Next thing, you know, versus called on. Y'all shall wait, we'll do it on versus. You know it never happened. Ye, that's how they do it. How they do it. They molled out. Can you imagine how hard can see? It's certain groups from the Midwest and South, they just want to write off the history

and they just want to write them off. You got goodye mob, You've got Bone Thugs, We've got three six Mafia. You know what I'm saying. You've got great group, Dog J. You try to write lou Scott Walker at the picture exactly. I mean, j G. It's it's like when you go back to Atlanta during that time, Bro, we had usher TFC escaped. Come on, bro, y'all, I don't even have no amp grooves jog sleep from North Carolina. Tell them about it. They from the South. They were not from

New y'all. Joy from Downhill. Then when you look at anywhere else, man, with the West Coast, it were tastes. Yeah, it was other places. So tell me what this? This is the perfect seter this. You're sitting in the um, sitting in the source of awards, right, Yeah, you can tell us teaching when you're watching on TV. But they're not really showing what the crowds is doing. They're just making an artists look like they're starting some ship can right. So dra like he was upset and he went to

the South. That of something to say what was going on in the audience that they do it was it was so man, I tell people, man, what people got to realize that that that year was the year I think that everybody got to see each other in the flesh. I think you were seen the West Coast on TV. They seen Snoop. They've seen everybody on TV, but they ain't smelled their colone, you know what I mean. They

got them Big Mike. They've seen all that ship on BT, but they ain't seen till they got up there that night. And I think we got into that night. That ship felt like being in the prison law the prison yard. It felt like going out on the prison yard. And then the first it's like, hey man, everybody, and they called everybody, and they called and it was light that it was like it was so much at tension you could cut it with a night man. I'm telling like

they started to show with the death Row. When they started the show with death Row, it put it put it in the out because I want to I want you to walk me through like like we're going back, but we like we're on turn traveler. We walk them through there. What was the thing like was niggas talking ship was because first of all, the city of New York was there, uh very very um uh brand New,

does you gotta look at what we're going on? You got outcast there, you got Big Mike there representing you also had three of from six nine Boys Row and at that time was a pop record big record, bro. We watched the row. They kind of were like, uh, you know, but that ship was so hard. It was like, oh my god, crazy I was from how they came up. But it was like the woo they felt just like we did at that time. Well, nobody respected and they

thought stat Niler was the country man. Well nobody was thinking them in there when nobody did, mob Deep were to love. Uh that's when Quick and eight they were going through their thing. What was so hard about the Quick and eight was sitting behind us? Mm hmm. That was what was so hard. And when when Quick came on and did his part, he wrapped right at eight and we're sitting in front of eight eight behind us

Quick wrapping here part eight. So alway, I was like, yo, man, like the west of each other New York and the west of each other. And they were looking at the Sop like, man, we don't even hear y'all needs like y'all needn't even him, you know what I mean. Like so it was kind of like, you know, after they did they said lyrics of the Year and biggest longs, big big Mike. I'm kind of like, ohn't no, you know, all of a sudden they were sitting around like oh

oh no that ship. But at the same time them bo will hat like big it will hattened like I couldn't. I mean, that was the first time, you know he jumped up that d thing, and you know, I think it was like, well we're creg meca, you know what I mean, Like it was so much going on that night. I remember us walking out that building and seeing corrupt out there rapping against all them folk on the corner. He said he did that. He did that for the

WI that night. He went out there said, hey man, anybody out here on song ran on come, he was up, Hey man, rut went to serve to dig is out there. Man like any well known nigga there was on step up. Yeah, nah man, he was bro. He took he took the you know then there was superstar and they were still a superstar. He went and got all the goether. He whipped your gother like if he wopped your go to y'all ain't ready. He went out there, took on everybody

on the corner and killed them. It was it was the most awesome thing to ever see because to be in that room like after she come, it put the game banging ship on it. Man Like after she deal he did put the game bag and on. Then boy, it was like and then at the same time you got ball throws and harmony. I'm there. I'm just there seeing that beef up close. Okay, you know, ruthless and god them. You know that that road wasn't they wasn't weird. You know, they were still come what they font during

that time. So it was the West at each other. It was the West and the East of each other, and it was the South sitting there feeling like we ain't even got them getting recognized, but nothing we're doing. So you gotta remember once we came back home, we came back home with a chip on our shoulder like okay, okay, y'all, damn sure did you do bro y'all only went on to saw that picture for the next from being on up to now. Yeah, like you go to New York.

Everything out of New York sound like they got there from the A T. M. Man. I told him it's all over the place. Now. That's why I tell people all the time. I say, man, y'all can say whatever y'all want to say, but the difference that makes us different than the West and the South. We raised that key is. We raised that is man. Well, we was the t s. When they came up, we grabbed them, ludicrous,

we grabbed them jezs. We grabbed them. Everybody else was trying to keep him down and blocking and no, don't let the end. I don't. I get mad all the time, and I'd be like, hey man, no de spading nobody. I'm just saying. It's said that only motherfucker's want to talk about Dr Dre on the West. It's said it's a quick she, it's sad battle cat. That's the that's the reason why you gotta look at why she don't be strong. It'd be strong because them folks grabbed one motherfucker.

They put him in the room and they say, I want you to fuck everybody out there, and I'm gonna give you all the weight for everybody. Now twenty years later, there's one man sitting with all the weight, all the power,

and everybody else got crumbs and breathe everybody got. I'm gonna tell you this, a whole bunch of like man like you named the battle Cat Quick, the niggas, the savages in there, battle Cat Quick um ship you got the hony Warren g And then they know because because let me tell you this, when you look at Dr Dreight, he the greatest producer that ever did it because that man now went through five eras. Oh yeah, he's unable.

This ain't no nothing, you know, be clear, drinkings all the respect that he is for a reason, you know what I mean. But it's some of the cold motherfucker's I'm gonna tell you this. The chronic wouldn't have been the chronic without Warren cheesy and wan like like like you gotta understand one gy. If it was for no warreng G, I think that rold would have closed during

that time. One out of note, I had that platinum record for death Jam and they caught that that that that that that West Coast waves because of a he said, for sure, man, you know, get before we step a body here, dog, And I appreciate you dog really doing this. You got a whole bunch of other business fixture going on man speak on the dog. Um, Okay, get goodies, get good good is give good? Is the real moon rock? Man? Uh?

During the pandemic, before the pandemic, I went out and uh out the l A. Living in l A. I was gonna drop the T A. C Line. The pandemic hit, I said, Man, let me leave my spot at l A. Come home. I gotta watch my MoMA m I said, took all my ideas from from T A. C Line and I took it out here in at Level and Man, and five months, man, we're like eighteen spots. No, we're in almost forty stores now. A store down in Columbus that I just opened up since January. They're doing excellent.

About to open up another store Columbus. And we're about to open up to get goody superstore downtown Atlanta. That's six thousand square feet. I'm gonna have a store in the bottom. On the middle part, we're doing manufacturing and white labeling for anybody want to get into cannabis business, wanted to get in the CBD business, any kind of product I could produce for you right here in Atlanta. And then on the ceiling, we're gonna open up a club. So man, so let me ask you, this is the

Trees Legal Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah, Hemp Hemp, Hemp, Hemp, hemp him Hemp is Hemp is here, man, Hemp is here, and and and they should be they already growing in Atlanta. But it's gonna be at least another year two for they let them turn their things into th c. You know, you know we are in the dirty South, and the folk got to have their Yeah, man, they got because you don't all of them back that they kids smoking weed and doing all. A lot of customers. I got

a lot of customers. And one thing I want to let everybody know. I started the whole thing, and it's it's dedicated to my father. And my father had cancel. Uh. He left me about two years ago, and I started treating him with this stuff and started making him feel better. I knew if I caught him a little bit before he started taking out them peels, I probably would have been able to back him out up all the way

up of it. So it gave me another purpose. When I lost my old man, man, it made me feel like I maybe couldn't have saved him, but I could save somebody else. So with that, man, I just I dedicate the rest of my life to trying to just help people little better and have awallness with their help. Because as you see, man, uh, this pandemic, these shots a man. The three the three headed dragon is alive

and well, man, real man, you know, watch everybody. Everybody ain't buying these two hundred million dollar boats for nothing. Everybody they the super rich is gonna live on the water and they're gonna continue to have the locks that the lockdown and the viruses. So prepare yourself. And I would tell anybody this, hey man, get you first thing you need to do, survivor kids. You need to get you a generator for your house. You need to get you a generator for your house. You also need if

you can get you store water. Another thing is you gotta also understand this. Learn how to teach yourself to live off the grid. Gift came up in the country. Give know how to I know how to hunt wild haul, I know how to hunt deal, I know how to hunt uh rabbits, coons. Hey get if the power go out to get know how to survived that it was a soldier. So I would tell everybody man learned how to survive without without power, because it's gonna be more

locked downs and it's gonna be more viruses. This just the beginning, oh man, It's just the beginning. And that's the whole thing about having knowledge brough some scary ships. Sometimes you've got it because I told my wife, I said, this ain't the first of the last one. It's gonna be worse than this. I'll be worse than this because now they gotta figure out they got One thing that I think that they they took from this first trial run is that it's harder to kill us than it

is other people of skin color. Makeup is different. There's something about black people makeup is something in our blood is different than than what's going on. Think about this around most of the military basis, in the in the South now and all the small towns. I don't know if y'all have seen them, maybe you need to pay attention after that. Tell right now in the hood, the hood living, I'm selling their blood, they're selling plasma. Breach

on it, man, breach, Now tell me this. You've had people. I watched people all the time drop kids off just to feed their family by selling blood. Well, think about this, who collected it and for what and for what it's because it's not going about for donations. Man's experiment on its experiment, because they're trying to find all of the things that we may have in our blood that may protect us from coming viruses. So now they're collecting blood from all of us to figure out the strengths and

the weaknesses. So we got the attention to the world we live in there, because it ain't gonna be long to You're gonna see everything you thought wasn't real. And I'm gonna tell you this too, bro before we go. And you gotta and you gotta remember this man, Touques. You you remember what happened back in the day. Touques, You right, Yeah, you know they're telling people that you have to get these vaccines now or you're not gonna be permitted to fly. You're not gonna be permitted to

do this. You're not gonna be permitted to that. You know they're telling you. You know you don't gotta do it. But if you don't do it, you're not get this. You know. If you can't fly, if you can't pride, if you can't do certain things, you know, you may have the company you work for may implement some ship like oh, in the state of California, you have to have your vaccine before you could work in a public place. You just never know. That's a something they got in

the Book of Revelation called the market the beast me. Well, I'm gonna tell you the biggest thing that I'm gonna tell you what we say king the biggest places, well, I would say the biggest places where I feel like us as people. It's safe. It's in the South. One thing we know about the South, the Southerway. Boy A used to being told what to do. M real ship. He damn, they're gonna turn out to your outline in a minute because he ain't gonna go forward. They're gonna

get all them. And that's why they say, give what's going on. I've been telling you what's going on. I told y'all all the everybody who got money gonna move to Texas. The three biggest, the richest, the three richest men in the world are moving to Texas. That's Jeff, that's Bill, and that's Ellen. They're gonna control Texas. Why because sooner or later they're gonna shut the stock market down. Because why they're gonna the only way you can trade is because you gotta have land or oh, ain't none

of that up north. They tired u up people up north stilling their moneys. So they're gonna conjugate in Texas and they're gonna grain that stock market back to Texas where it started in Houston. Then they go see at the end of the day, when the people trying to ply these new rules, Tea is gonna be the first state they're gonna ask to be to to to lead the union. Damn. So you think it's gonna go Down't like that again, Yeah, it's gonna go down. Like they

just shut that gas line down, didn't. Yeah, man, it's wild off that man, you know, lyne off the They shut the gas line across the East coast off the computer. That's crazy. Just took the smooth off the grid. So that that was just a test. Somebody ain't doing what they told him do. Somebody don't want to do what they told They just showed them, Hey, you do what I do. You till you do what I tell you. I cut your gas out still James eight, y'all neggas better give me my fine Donald, I put that on

the set. I need to go get me some watermera. My motherfucking feet fucking with me. Gangs, the chronicles of my ass tain't granted her money. This gangster granny, y'all knew me where you at before we shut this down. I got one thing I wanted to say. I need y'all all the go to Instagram, Go to the gainst the Chronicles podcast. Follow that. He ate a weight up? He ate up on this Instagram eight a wait he big James up. They all don't get the bottom. What is it? Big j br w g J three six

three six. If you accept your friend request, let me know because it would be a miracle. James, you probably got about a thousand people want friend requests. You ain't let him come in. I don't know, I don't I don't check, James said, I don't know. I'm not fucking with all you, by the fu. So just chill out right now. You know when when you allow people to come in like that, and then that was like when I gave up my phone number. You have some weirdos

that called you, Oh man, this just man. You know, I think you put the ship some time right. I'm like, well you had okay, you think I'm full of ship, but you get those phone calls. You see that ship on Facebook. I don't have time for that. I don't have nothing to do to now, man out there that feel a certain way about me. Nothing I can do unless you're in front of me, and that's when it means something to me. Other than that don't mean nothing to me. I don't have to prove I'm with games

that what is one. I'm just a regular ass nigger that that ain't scared to shoot you. I'm just wing. I ain't got no problem with with problems, that's right. So I stayed away from the bullshit man. And I appreciate all the people that that come in and say real ship to me, that make those phone calls, and I talked to him personally. That's what I give a funk about all that other bullshit man. What what exactly? There?

You go? Everybody got their own motherfucking life out here, you know, Tupax said, I mean, Snoop said it better. Niggas bitches too, and they can't. They could be your closest friend, or they can be that bitch ass nigga far away from you. You feel me, another nigga is how you get down, and I don't give a fun You feel me and then you have her from the homie. So if your asks get the homie up on some bullshit. You know what you're gonna get and we all have

to keep it real. No bullshit, man, keep it real, keep it humble, and you might get accepted. Oh hey, real quick, you want to feel it was about the radio show real quick, man, Man, you know we we got the radio show Crack and Wake Your Punk Ass Up, hosted by the Gangster Chronicles official. Uh, we're about nine markets up and down the West coast. Uh, Bakersfield, Palm there. I don't know the stations. I'll reach the station's off for y'all next week and let y'all know where to

tune in that. But that's what they do, man, and check us out. We're FeelA be all over your airways. Wake your punk ass Up. James about to be telling y'all what it dude about to tell you what free ways to stay off. Hit you with some traffic ship. We're gonna have a top eight at eight. Man, we're gonna be moving man. So let's Wake your Punk Ass Up show hosted by the Gangster Chronicles seven and nine o'clock. Man. Check us out, and y'all he names up and y'all

he James up. Y'all make sure to email James with all your relationship and vice questions, because James gonna be the man on there to answering your questions. Yeah, my nigga, James up, he gonna he's gonna tell y'all what to do. You're gonna tell you motherfucker to keep for motherfucker, tell to kick rocks and ship. Don't be mad at the other nigga. If the nigga didn't raped your woman and she gave him the pussy that be is free my nigga. Yea, and she did this and gave it up a free

keep your home exactly. Sure, we all let me know what jail well. That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the i Heart app and subscribe to The Gangster Chronicles podcast For Apple users, find a purple mic on the front of your screen, subscribe to the show, leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles podcast and Norman Steve James McDonald, Aaron m c a Tyler. Our visual media director is

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