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EP 105 Mobstability w/ The Speedknot Mobstas

Apr 17, 202146 minSeason 8Ep. 105
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We sit down with Chi-Town's "SpeedKnot Mobstas" and they kick the real about the past present and future.

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front screen. Subscribe Against the Chronicles and leave a five star rate in the comment to another episode Against Chronicles. Not with my homeboys. Jill and you all know what it is, man. You know what, there's a lot of stuff going on. I was talking to eight earlier, man, and it seemed like we just on the repeat of these ass bumpings and these killers that these police officers are doing. Man. It's just like at the while, you're

just like, damn another one. Man. Uh. You know, we found out that the police officer man and killed the young brother Dante right doing the traffic stop, saying that she must techndly drew her pistol instead of a tasan. Then we had an army officer to get pepper strated and stumped out. Man. It's like this is just a recurrent theme right now, and I don't want to just like I don't want to rehash a whole bunch of

stuff that's been said already. Man. But them, I don't think that's wherever the end has been going on since the sixties. Man, it's been going sixty sixties. The only difference is now, man, as we got folks with their camera phones out and everything else. Man, what with y'all fail to realize that that with the the Trump ship and all the other ship that's been going on, and then people that ready to Capital some of them. Some of them people were army people, police, the whole nine.

You have white racist people and law enforcement, and they're showing you that they're racist. This ship ain't gonna stop unless the courts start locking these motherfucker's up and and they're not gonna do all of them. They're not gonna lock all of them mouths. So I mean, whether you reply, whether you get out the car and lay on your motherfucking billy or whatever, it don't matter. Ship ain't gonna stop. You're doing we got to do with this ship. There's

never no surprise, man. I don't I mean, I don't even I don't understand how motherfucker's don't realize how you know? To us, this is no shock, Like you said, it's kind of it's kind of repetitious and ship because it's the normal for niggers that grew up in that situation. Man, you know what I'm saying, Accidental shootings or getting your ass what about the police or ship was what we learned to accept when we grew up in the motherfucking hood.

You know what I'm saying. Uh, A lot of us motherfucker's wasn't out on on the on the corners, or didn't give a fuck if we was getting dropped off and enemy hoods or getting all asses beat in jail by the CEO s or any of that ship. It was normal territory. I mean, so it's kind of like

repetitious behavior that you keep seeing. But it's just the fact, like you said, everybody got sucking camera phones and everybody's so curious to see what these cops do to motherfucker's because of you know, my man George Floyd or all anybody else who's lost their life due to this era of social media. But man, I grew up in a time when it wasn't computers or social media and ship,

it was the normal ship. You got your ask what by the police and somebody got killed, he wasn't running down to the police station to report, you feel me? Because it was something that we was branded into. That's the dangerous part thought you got. You got the wheenie cats want to be somebody, just like half of the goddamn police and law enforcements was getting bullied and plunked by certain motherfucker's. But now they got that title, they can do anything, and they want to do anything just

to prove that they not pussies. I can sit here and enable a whole bunch of motherfucker's out this way that did this ship and and being plunked a whole nine, But now they're considered that the hitters. Fuck that. You know what I'm saying. That's just like when niggas go to prison and come home buff. I tell them a fucker like this, just because you got buff don't mean your your hands are no better than what they want. Before you start living weights, you're the same motherfucker. He

can't put no ways from that. You can't put it here. You feel me, it don't happen like that. So just need to just really see the reality of what what what game banging is and the structure other ship. If you don't understand that, you're fighting the lost cast because all the odds against us anyway you feel me, whether you're in Chicago, Atlanta, California, the whole nine, it's all designed the same motherfucking way. But it takes and I noticed it takes us until we get to our parties.

It takes us til we get to our fitties to really realize that ship A smart motherfucker that get it and his kids is the motherfucker. Other than that, I ride with the homeies, you know what I'm saying, Yeah for real man. And you know we got some brothers man from Chicago to night Man, Shot towns on speeding up mobsters Man, the only big rig Man, Turtle Banks Man and lifting Stokes Man. How y'all fellers doing night Man?

Blast blast? Laugh? What's good? Man? So we're talking about this thing, man, and the thing that like, um, I would say, Man, really as far as game Coachu go man, Los Angeles and Chicago, Man, it's probably two of the main cities in the country, the first that's been having to cracking like since the sixties. Would y'all agree yeah on that? Yeah? And so like I was talking to you a little bit off camera, Rig earlier about just the differences. You were breaking it down to meet on

how Chicago go. I know, um, how to You know, a lot of politics go in Chicago. You know, witside is the dis the southside is is that and everything? Man, with the level of crime that y'all got, Man, because we alsome killing motherfucker's in Chicago. Man, you know what it's always been that it's just pubicide right now, and like Chicago a mob a mob city, meaning like the move with stocksu So you gotta take when a day or when those stocksures. But we still got schluck, if

that makes sense. So it's you know, it is what it is right now. And it's like when the the sayers knew what they was doing. Man, you know what I'm saying. In the early two thousands, they was taking away all the cheese on the street. You know what I'm saying. It was sweeping. They were sweeping the street, taking away all the gang leaders. They do. Once you knock the head off, we got a whole bunch of

roaches and rattings and roaches and wrestles running away. You know I'm saying, ain't no guidance, ain't no long You know it's Chicago, and how y'all have looked to each tough and like that. But you know, we got longs, we got laws, we got order. You know what I'm saying, We do prayers and everything. It's a whole different type of structure with our gang culture. And it's like they got to the way, man, ain't nun with just violence

and ain't no upliftment. It ain't no larning and no cheese giving, no guidance, Ain't no O G. S telling the shout he's are smacking the shoulda when you're out of pocket. Ain't none of that, okay? Would you say? Because I know back then, like as far as Chicago go y'all had gang leaders like you see ahead about the structure. It was serious. They almost ran that ship like a business. Yeah it could you come on the

block kicking off nothing unless you've got okay. If you did what it was your head, you was getting the funking head. You might be sucking up. But five hours and dollar day block over there was a goofy ship. So you know you had to get the okay to do stuff. You had to get okay. You know talking to James about you know, talking to James he is the originator of law and order um and he always talks about that, like as far as God's main guard

the young people with certain principles and stuff like that. Man, So would you say the lection you're saying that the lack of leadership and O. G. S wing the penitentiary kind of sparked all this killing, this reckless killing us going on in Chicago, with that exactly a you know, games man, and nobody do the hold of the hold of the the accountable play and our date were accountable for any action anything, you know, and that law. We had to learn that, we had to understand that, we can

know that. Then we had to the consequence. So we used got a gang of people outside. They're just more constable, the just the right thing, old managed really and forget the old one, all right, hold on, hold on, let's drop a commercial real quick. We gotta pay some bills in here, yeah, for sure. So so lifty, your name comes from a notorious figure in Chicago. Man, I wanted to always ask you, well you related to the he

wanted the living Stokes. No, you know, when I came to my name now, I was like, I didn't want to be like, you know, the New York niggas man he was in all that Gambino, all that old Italian ship. I wanted to come with some people that come from our color, our culture in the game and made it big. So I'm like, you know, I can't with the fruiting Stokes, lifting Stokes. I'm like, I'm gonna be lifting stops, you

know what I'm saying. And represent for that. I ain't gonna do the tag and ship there's gangs because around that time everybody was this and that, don since in you only and all this other stuff, right because they don't like they don't like us anybody. Why the fu you don't take their name back? That's invest in real ship bro. So man, and um, I know these younger cats in Chicago, man, as far as that whole drial. Soon that they got down there, man, they really like that.

They really want it man, and like and them factions that they got up because there's so many, like I don't heard more women and all these different names or those newer factors. Are those newer factions of like the

older games? Yeah? Yeah, basically what y'all gotta win up was like for some reason the gang Coach had really exploded in the two dollars of teens and levels, and all you got was a bunch of game branging niggas who weren't even wrapping, but they got famous all the game banging, and they was like, man, how did we make some money off one? And like, what's seeing that started rapping? So then you get some chief keys and little dirts them they just come straight from the slum

gang banging, didn't have nothing else to do. It was like, I'm gonna turn the rapping. So Chicago people, we ain't got no industry in Chicago. Really, you know, I'm ain't no movies, ain't no music, ain't no labels up here. So people got a real missing exception of Chicago. In Chicago funked up, they didn't. You gotta be real, like the New York niggas knew I train it. I'm gonna be a character. You commonly gotta fucked up anything. They really gotta put the murders in and let you know that.

They they got tim burnt bodies in one of they built to make some music and get famous, and then they just caught on. And then you got niggas in New Glork doing a drill London and they really think that's the ship the way they go. But really there was so s they just got yeah, just hard, they explained. But y'all was supposed to get there, you know what I'm saying. And it was real ship that was going on, and they got exposed and cloud as a motherfucker men famous,

everybody no famous. The worst social media that social media as a motherfucker. Like I seen it. I mean you can tell because, like I said, a lot of the rap, you know, was was basically said, you get me. A lot of the rap was just it was cent trip and it wasn't really rap. It was nigga the homie killed your homie. Uh, you know, we from this block, you know, fuck your bitch, fuck your whatever. Fuck if

you ain't from this hood. It wasn't really wrapped. It was really like a lot of just what I called banging one you feel me. And then because of social media and because of the the adolescence in the hip hop right now, niggas took that as the new form of rap. You give me, Papa purposet, Papa pill Uh, fuck your bitch killed your nigga. I killed him. I killed him. You know, we give a funk about them.

That's just really a lot of banging on wax on some real ship, niggas beefing on records to their neighborhoods and getting popular because the kids, like my son, he's sixteen, he loved that ship. You give me, he loved that ship. When niggas talking about nigga, I came through. I popped the bitch the homie call the murder. You know, you ain't gonna do ship. You ain't gonna pull that pistol. Nigga. He loved a little Dirk ship and the King ship and all that. He loves that ship. That's my son.

He didn't wanted my son. And I got a son to play ball at usc no you know, young name, and he put me up on all that because when we used to go to them tournaments and seven of seven, that's all he was banging. The car was a little dirt and King Vonolim and I noticed that left the fathers that these short he's taking the reps. It's sound a little too real, you feel I'm saying, you listen, ship, I mean like on our aspect. You know, I talked

about drive bomb music. I talked about what happened with niggas pulled drive bins in the effects of the death in the community and whatever. I didn't get on records, and like, you know, I knew a nigga who got killed from so and so hood, and I got on record and said, yeah, y'all hold me from so and so got killed. Nigga. He didn't to do that type

of ship. You know what I'm saying, but today it's the like I said, with the youth and the popularity of social media and listening to that, and they look at these young niggers and they be like all day that nigga at my nick you know. So it kind of drove that aspect of what music is today. You feel me, because that's what some time it was some

different ship. Whatever we came up and music was to us, or when we tried to explain tales from the hood, so to speak, what I tell motherfucker's we had telled from the hood on the on the description of the downfalls of the neighborhood. You get me of doing that route they glorified the ship. Nowadays, you feel me it's glorified to talk about the nigga who got his ass killed last night, And I ain't talking about a fiction of your imagination character. They're talking about the nigga who

really got killed last night, you feel you know. And going back to going back to just some stuff. Man, the Turtle Banks, I gotta tell you it was on the Legit Balls album. You had the hardest contentory song after anything that don't have some family, go brother, go to ken. What was your name, that stuff. It was on the thing and that was my cut. I've bling that song. Everything was my theme song behind ball. Yeah time who you had in your family? That was locked

up dog? Because that was a cold that that was a cold beast. That got to be one of the best ever made. Yeah, because it was some real stuff. And that's one thing I'm gonna take you the music for a little bit, because you know that's not our format. We don't talk about music when where you come for your promo spots and stuff. We speak with real street people about real street you know, stuff that's going on. Y'all was kind of like the y'all was kind of like the n w A in Chicago, so to speak.

Maybe before y'all, I can't really remember nobody because y'all came up with Twister. If y'all kind of gave him up three day kind of you always kind of like three D Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. You know, I mean from the beginning, you know when when Twister first said the saying he was with the beds and you know, he was on the afrol Central ship. You know, when I had told him wonder I hadn't talked with im, said man, you know the fast they're cool, but you

ain't talking about nothing. You know what I'm saying. I'm like, you need to switch you then I'm like, you know, not to beat, but like people like Bus, the Rare Man, Novelty Round, Come and go. I was like Street Rapp, thank us the rappers forever because it's the streets. The streets ain't going nowhere, so you'll be able to talk about the streets forever. You gonna have a career for ever talking about the streets like eight like sky Face Jay.

You know what I'm saying, It stays, the transcends the test of time because you live in and every day. So we took that, switched the style, love and watch the money. That's crazy, man, because y'all really big news because for a minute, y'all worried you'll on the Twister. Help we know y'all was on the drumming vation of other projects right then, y'all with the with the like the le jit ball and stuff. I thought the legit

ball stuff was gonna pope. We did. We did too, I mean you know, I mean we were we still hold records. I mean we was doing We was doing Gold four one dollars companies taking me put out from south or south about southwest. We was killing you know what I'm saying. And then that's when Atlantic, because we were still in sad to Atlantic when we was dropping them, uh,

when we did Legit Ballers. So then they came back trying to school us, like, you know, y'all gotta stop that, you know, bring it on the end to the family. So when they tried to bring it into Atlantic, you know, they had a deal for Twister to solo album and they had a deal for Legit Baller is a million for Twist to four point five for the Legit Baller label. For some reason, you know, Twister didn't want to do it. Somebody.

He was tiring people coming up on his name. So he said, you know you have the four point five on the table. When they gave it the t I, that's o t I got grand hustle because Twister talk the bread Dawn. He just wanted his media first solo album. He said he didn't want to be binding with the rest of the ship. So he told me, like, you know, I come to him. You ain't turning around four point at you ain't doing no ship like that. Were like

he's just gonna be me and you. We're just gonna get this red all you know, all the other ship. You know what I'm saying. So the deal just fell at the waist tide and so so so we just that was the reason why them CD stopped coming out exactly. You know what I've wondered sometimes do it seems like the people that them labels like playing the divide and concrete game with brothers, like with black labels when they come together like that, because see, I don't seen ship

like this was out for working on buildings. They'd come and tell y'all that they four point five, and they really offer them no ship like that, just to get y'all kind of out the way. Because I noticed that the first thing they try to do is move everybody's little street ties to him to get them water. Yeah that's true. But the guys was in the in the table with him when he said no, okay, I'll live. Yeah, But like I said, even with it was see, we

cousin structure man were game bankers, wig taritle bangs. We folks who on the hustlers, vice lords, twisty ain't no game banking, you feel me? So when we talk, I worried my bond and I'm telling folks something. Well, I'm telling rich something. You know what I'm saying. It's different with a severe Let's put it like that away. You know what I'm saying. Hey, you know I know big Rick, how long have you been on a in that lifestylet of when I was actual activive? Some you know? Well

now I'm seven, don't twell? I came out. Yeah, so so what's the so as far as vice goes, I've noticed it gotta be And maybe this is James, you

may can answer this. Is it a connection between the games in Chicago, when the games and that like man games in Chicago, the games in Chicago, when the games in l A. All of us have been through a lot of ship, different ship, and it's just is their connection between that something just to make you click and make you just see everything but what it is and if you water something down and you don't have to just keep it one hunting, it is what it is

right around, you know what I'm saying. And a lot of those like my uncle's and all the people I saw watching grow up, I wanted to be like that, but I wanted to be myself. So I incorporated a lot of different ships that I saw that I heard and and implemented that ship and me. And so when I did certain things, I believe I was doing the right thing every time I did it. And you know, some cats today they don't think, They don't think at all.

I was taught to think and playing and put it together before you go out there and do some stupid ship and looks stupid doing it, you know what I'm saying. So you know a lot of us brothers man understand, but don't fully get it until we get older. You know what I'm saying. A lot of cats is running around there talking about their men. I didn't. I didn't realize I was a man until I was in my voties, you know what I'm saying. So you know, some real ship.

So being a part of of of of being a game member, being the destructive and tanning up the neighborhoods and doing all that ship. I can't be a hypocrite and say a hypocrite and say them niggas is sucking up there on some stupid ship, because we've all been on some stupid ship growing up. Now, it's about how did you fix our you know, touch these cats and let them see that the way they getting down is not worth it and don't make sense, you know what

I'm saying. So if you got more fuckers to start making records and telling them that the ship that they're doing is file, put the pistols down and stop whoo the woo woo. We ain't gotta shoot each other, we ain't gotta hang with each other. Let's just stop killing each other. Y'all still over there, we stay over here, and and and do I think we will grow? The majority of a black man life is fagancy. Now is ship?

Back then it was fifteen. Now, motherfucker's probably make it to twenty one, two years old, you know what I'm saying. So it's it's it's just a lot of ship that comes with it, and you gotta understand where you're going and where you're adding in the whole system. That's all it is, is the system. It's something that the older, the older, the generations before our tied started. We just took it and took it to a different motherfucking level. And now it is what it is. It has no structure,

and it has no no loyalty. It has no it don't have a hold on nothing, none of none of the ship that that that motherfucker's just doing the day. It don't mean ship because they're just doing it. Yeah, you know what I think, man, And this is one thing I noticed was I'm a reason from the Midwether too. But I've been out in California since eighty eight. I've been here a long time, so I understand the game

thing as far as out here. And one of the similarities gonna see between Chicago and then Layers that they systematically took those maga figures out the neighborhoods. Some of them happened to be po boys, but they used the guys have boke and all the other stuff that you on them and the regal charges and stuff on. They took the influential cats out the neighbor lives across the country, and then that's when the kallos, the madness started had like they tried to cut their head off. They cut

their head off. I mean, that's like that. It's the fact of the matter is like ship, you take away the motherfucker that's giving you structure. It's just like the same situation you got the motherfucker that's giving you structure or family member or brother they killed here, what you're ready to do that's gonna calm you down or that's

gonna make you get active. So, like like Games said, it's a sort of a backfire because they know the motherfucker's that they're putting away holds down the structure, got the brain to love leadership to calm motherfucker ship. But that scares of motherfucker. When they have the smarts and the intelligence, you get me, they feel they're ready to deal with the knucklehead because the knucklehead gonna suck yourself

up real quickly. But you don't understand the knuckle heads is the ones that's gonna go guerrilla warfare on your motherfucking asked, because like they said, we don't really give a fuck. We're just gonna go ballistic and go crazy and just shoot up everything. But you want to lock up and they go, who can control all of that and bring structure? That terrifies the motherfucker because look at this,

Look at what this motherfucker can do. Look he got all this ship under control, So all he gotta do is really if the motherfucker wanted to do is run ship. He could really funck shut up. So they figured, well, ours is pretty much even your mother to the run police officer, you got a problem. So it's it's pretty much pretty much even there. You know. You know, one of our first shows we talked about, you know, just just surrender. You know that's not so easy to do.

When the police funk with you. They already got an agenda when they approach you. You're a black man, he got something, so the odds against you when as soon as he walked up to you, his mind is already made up opposed to walking up to somebody, a white guard, a white guy in the car, and the wars that let him have it because the white boys ain't playing with him. We sit here, our races are so fucking passive and humble when it comes to the police and

everything else. But when it comes to us, we're ready to destroy. Yeah, but everybody starts rhyme when the police killed one of us. You know what I'm saying, Let's get a march, was stopped killing each other. You know what I'm saying, Well, we ain't doing none of that ship because they know they can't stop that ship. They can't stop it, but you can stop it. You can go to the hood and and get it all the

hitters and and everybody put bearing that ass. Brothers from the penitential, let them know when you're coming this motherfucker. Your asses out't come and come to prison for killing the black man. And this is what the Mesicans did. If you come to prison for killing the Mexican, your ass can't live in no prison, can't be on no yard. And that's what they did out here in California in the eighties. That's real, that's real, right, there's nowhere to hide,

nowhere to hide in there. So and that's that's one of the ways that that that mm hm. The penitentiary as a motherfucker. And if you're not ready or bill ploy yeah, and you don't even know where they're getting from. But they died and they had some pink underwear. But your hey, first of it's a motherfucker, but it definitely can make a man out of you. And it definitely showed you know something, mother to go to jail and no, mother, just go to jail. No. It teaches you. I'm telling

you what they do. You got cash that go out there and what you know what you can come back to their cell and later when we came up and he whoop your ass. Everybody knows killing you know what I'm saying, first and foremost in there. Motherfucker's all that how the head and ship? You think you are gay? Let's see you was tested. You know you're not getting that today. You're not getting that. Bad motherfucker ready to come check you because now why they have changed the laws.

The laws are different from back then attempt the murderer getting for the years attempted. I might want to kill the motherfucker. You know, they're not giving you what what you was getting. You know, the slap on the wrist and the eight in the nineties. You're not getting that ship. So being an o G man, goddamn, that's that's double Japany if I if I go fucking just literally and this little then get every found I do something to it, I'm in prison for the rest of my life. But

you know everything, you get your time. Man. We just gotta figure it out, and figure out and and and turn the dump ship into positive ship. It's gonna be very hard to do that. We need to have some co instructor that would be that that would be hella. But because it'd be a gang of niggas, it would be a gang of nigga skin to go to motherfucking prison. No one that the old JS is in there waiting on motherfucker's You know what I'm saying. That would be

a hell of a structure to get a motherfucker's. You come in here for shooting another nigga, then you you just wait to see what happens when you get in here, because that's where you had it. You feel me too. That's why motherfuckers don't want one part of that ship. If you can't, they ain't trying to run up. They ain't trying to run up and gets un the niggas. Man you've been talking about bad with the jellies and all that bad. They is not ready to run up

against one of them, not at all. No man, y'all, y'all be overlooking the point. The point is you got some grown ass man out there that all that less, I don't have nothing else ain't gonna stand the hood. And for him to stand the he gotta have these little soldiers. He might be under covered with the bullshit, but it's somebody just keeping motherfucker's on the grind is everybody got somebody in the hood that's on some fucked

up ship. If Alcol watch the big homie, this motherfucker fifty sixty sixty five years old still with the business man longevity too, I might be able to make it to his age with the business. So all it is, man, grown ass man needs to really grow the funk up and say that and see the big picture here. We ain't doing ship but destroying us. That's all we're doing. And I know, I know for a fact I did it for a long goddamn time. But and I can't

be a hypocrite about it. And I know what because he's thinking, Nick is just thinking some motherfucker's doing for recreational reasons. They ain't got enough to do in the hood. You get drunk and you let the liot a take your motherfucker somewhere else. And and now, yeah, I didn't kill the mother because I got drunk, just as simple of that. It's just stupid. Ship, Nigga is just stupid.

We we'd be on some stupid ship and we just need to wake the punk up and think, man and ship is is out of hand now, he's out of hand. So you know, until it happened to you or somebody in your family, that's when mother fuckers start to wake up. That's a real ship, man, because it's so many similarities, man, because one thing is Bigwest period. You know, Chicago Detroit took them, you know, y'all man to take two things,

two different things. You know, to the y'all do everything to the and the game almost I don't stuff to places, but yeah, that's cool. Like but we might have said on the West side, so the West Side we known for getting money. So like that the day this outside with your area where the family like ground, my num came from down part where they came on like Grandpa might work. He by the crib. They got a house.

We talked about the partners in it. It's long. Well you know, my daddy might not have been around and mama get the uh, the aide and all that big rick. We can enter this part off. You got your things on. Clicking that you take the motherfucker's off. Dog, you sound like you wond the water on the motherfucker's don't want

to hear what you see? Yeah, I mean, you know, stay whatever you was all over again because oh, you're trying to be trying to be cool to see that, but that but that couldn't when we were got them. So what we're saying, No, we're from the last as of Chicago, right, So the differences we come from money man, we love the huckle. We love get money. You know back in the day on the South Side. That's why

all the backs I grated too. And uh that you know how money came from down software he came from he got the god might to create a piece of property. So the next generation win after process. Us we come from out the I'm the deal is, Daddy might not have been around, you know, he might have been hospital mama getting the best that check O the aid check and we gotta get some money. But them process we're seeing, you know, like them. I stayed around the corner from

me and knew him. We need my godfather. So we're seeing people like they're all our life is you want to get money. So the West Side people, we just like to get money all that with that, but we all do that that I didn't the other guy have to do it. But yeah, black Peace Stone, that was Yeah, you know what I'm saying, I wanted to ask me when they was trying to black Pea Stones down. Yeah, black Pea Stone, Agent of Stones still got people, still

black Peace stones. Yeah. When we saw that on cut with one of the movies, he was like, damn the stones out down. You know what, men, they's up again. We don't see Roy because he was trump con you know what I'm saying. So because he took the lid out there. All right, let's take a quick commercial break and we'll be back. So so so let me ask you this, and I keep talking about the similarities between Chicago and that late because that's why I love old

guys there. The guys then we come up. I believe that James at correct me if I'm wrong with any point. Yeah, man, we we we we Like I said, we are nigga like myself. I grew up in the hood, so I was structured on that ship. That's why I tell people a lot of my music was sales from the neighborhood because I was actually right there living that ship. So as a young adolescent, I was victim to a lot of that bullshit too. What I'm saying, uh, just being

a product of my environment. So you know, um, A lot of people asked today, you know, do we feel responsible for the music we made? And how you know, uh, you see the youngsters now days and how they're crazy and going wild and whatever, and do we feel responsible for what? You know, because a lot of niggas say that, man, ship, I was in prison, I listened to you or I did. I did plenty of drive bys and listening to your ship,

you know whatever. So you know, it was just man, I'm like I said, me being a product of my environment, me being a product of my environment. It was it was stuff that I saw and stuff that I witnessed that I just felt like I had to share my stories with other with other brothers who were caught up in the situations that I felt I was in. You feel me because I always felt like not just sucking competent,

it's niggas, that's hood everywhere. You feel me, Chicago, down South, Mississippi, Atlanta, Texas. You know. So that's what I made music for. I made music to try to depict every nigger who was stuck in that trap. You feel, Okay, I gat I gain't. I didn't nigga's that neighborhood theme. Use Man, I just started doing that music because I knew what it was about. Because when I was making music, I was still hopping in the back of ods, cards and ship you feel me.

So that's why my music resignated with a lot of youngsters. As far as how we adults now, like I said, we weren't supposed to make it this far man living a lifestyle we was living, but we was. We were fortunate enough that we were able to start making music and we were able to start participating and writing down our tails of what we knew and what we experienced. Didn't happen to go out there and experience it in the long run, you know what I'm saying, So that

kind of benefited in some ways. Yeah, it's the media too, you know what I'm saying, because you think about it. When we was coming up, and it was when we was in the nineties, it was nineteen hundred murders up in this here. You know what I'm saying. It was that and triple what it is now. But back then, when the grand and aunt is getting hit, no babies, it was if you got hit, we had it come.

You know what I'm saying. Now, all these innercy white hands getting hit, man, just like I said, you you know, pussy, you're jod He want to stand get your feedback, and just he' here on what he's doing. He's just waving that mother and he got his glass clod that that's the thing right there. And we talked about it, when we talked about it all the time. Man, Like, I'll be honest with you, man, I got kids, you know, like James said, you really don't know you're a man.

To get you to your forties, that's when you're really on top of your ship kind of, you know. And I think I got kids. I got the son as twenty years old. I got the story. So when I see these jam cats out here, man getting murdered by people, whether it's the police or the hands of our owners, I'm gonna tell you this, buddy, we kill more of our own people than we any other motherfucker's everything else. Yeah, we get a lot of gown man, so real it

sucks me up, man um. As far as the kids in Chicago, man, I know kids out here, a lot of them give a funk about with no old making better say. And we respected our old g We're respecting our man. And I one thing is is this man, I'm tired of mother fucking verching. I'm tired of the motherfucking protesting and ship and it's starting to James saying, Man, I think we gotta start with all the ship man

and really start. But we to my own motherfucking neighorhoods because I would to tell somebody else to stop doing this and doing that. But we still each other, not excusing what they're doing at all, not excuse me what they're doing at all. But I am more likely to lose my life to the hands of another nigga than I am a police officer. Hey, hey, it was the eight Well, I don't know if you remember, we had kicking rounds in Long Beach of Long about ten years teen years ago. It was at Long Beach in a

little club up now. I was with Twist me. He was back there blowing and ship kicking it. I was settled, man, and the Q raised me. Man. It was my daddy's so and you knowthing to talk about. I was like, okay, that's the law. That that's law right there, and that's I presented myself. I ain't gonna that so I any trip when the shorts week because I was like Damn, I'm gonna love MC eight q Q say he I skilled the bitch killer cop killer that you know what

I'm saying. That loves it ain't really a solution to none of this ship. So all this ship is just exercise and futility because motherfucker's gonna still keep you what they're doing. Nigga's gonna still keep killing each other. Police. We're gonna be flowing through this motherfucker as long as

niggas walking. Thereat go be out the the whook that I asked, So you know, just it's all you can't do ship but laugh at it man and trying to take care of your own you know what I mean, Try to just make sure your own people is right. Y'all still let me ask you'll let me ask you' all this one question because I consider y'all, you know, to come from the era of my music. So do y'all feel pressured to compete or try to be uh

what the masses of music are? Or do you feel comfortable staying in your own lane and being who to speed not mobsters are? I'll tell you like this to me, you gotta keep your love for him because the music is here. To destroy your love for the gang. You know what I'm saying, He destroy your love for the music. You gotta stay at Brest and what's going on, keep up with the current slang, and you can still stay in your lane, you know what I'm saying. Like with us,

we gotta label Mob Town Entertainment. So we're bringing up a monster of the youngsters, you know what I'm saying. So we know we need to in order to get our label out that we need to come with some stuff ourselves because we got the bug to wrap again anyway, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, just long you stay current, listening to the music, know what's after, catch your lane, just get your a little sound, but still reminisces a the old They need the lover that hate.

That's all I say. Man, And and all the old geees out there. Man, you're still doing it. Do what y'all do because you still got motherfucker's like me to go streaming ship and buying. It's a whole bunch of niggas like me. There's old niggas just still want to hear some good music. You see what I'm saying. That king,

you know me, it's a fifty year. I love what these young niggas do, but I can't d it wrong like that that we're just lying right me pulling up on somebody listening to some of the ship that these niggs be making. You know what I mean, it's just don't knocking what they do. But that's my key and that's not me. You got so I got a certain lectament contemporary right now. You see what I'm saying. A total temporary rap man. But you know we're here for y'all. Man,

whatever it deals y'all need from us. Man, y'all need that new one points or whatever. Man, shoot it over this way. Dog. Well that's that's one thing I want to say to Chicago. Man, we're gonna start. We've been getting a lot of people hitting and stup. Now man to bring this different cities and stuff. Man, We're gon. We're gonna. We're gonna be pulling up in shot time before y'all know, because I think ship Chicago brought the number two markets. Like you know what I'm saying, Chicago

is the number two markets. The mortgage with the most prime activity is all our top markets. Crases in guy, I remember gonna say something about us you know what I'm saying. But we own y'all man, and we appreciate y'all man coming through the day. Man, y'all check out the Steed and not marksters. They got some man. Well. That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download the I Heart app and subscribe to

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