EP. 100 with OG Gangster Spud talks getting paralyzed after leaving the D game

Dick James and bixtails the streets. Hello, where are you at? This is o G Gangster Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast is back in effect. Get ready for some of that G ship and blaze up some wanna metal. We like to welcome you to another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. I with my homeboys ship and man, you know what, this is the hundred episode of the day. Fellas the hundred episode, not the thousands, No thousands, we're

shooting for that. We were shooting for that thousand mark. Man. You know the Gangster Chronicles. Man, feel like the thousands? Yeah, dude, on it man. The show premier Mark two thousand nineteen. Our first episode was to Live and Die in l A. It was me, James and the Homi REGI right, and we're doing this thing live today for the first time so years. Some were out there. I don't want to hear ship in the comments about Oh it sounded like it was were in the background year because we outside.

That's what it is, you know. So I don't want to hear no bullshit. I don't want to hear nothing in the comments about this. We're doing this thing live from some people. Let's make some noise right through the audience right here, man, We've had a lot of people on the show. Um this brothers on before you start that. Me personally, I want to dedicate my Hunted episode to

my mom's and my brother bunch of. I got to uh, if it wasn't for them, if it wouldn't for her telling me to go out and do what I had to do, and if it wouldn't for the love that I have for my brother, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do this. I remained quiet and it wouldn't have happened for me. So rest in peace, bunch of Rest in peace, Moms, exactly. Let's have a moment of silence. Man, it's a moment of silence. Well heere they Um, I'm gonna dedicate the

episode to uh, the Gangster Chronicle ship. You know, a lot of people, um probably view the show as um a platform for us to just to be representing gangster ship and cripp and blood ship and whatever. But as you can see, uh, we deal with a lot of

in depth issues with the show. Um. We deal with brothers who have been through the ups and downs of the justice system or wrong fleet incarcerated, or you know, niggas who just screaks, who had that hard stricken life, who was just you know, try to better themselves and uh, you know, we try to bring positive insight to the youth and ship like that. So I'm dedicate this episode to that purpose right there into James and Steele for and my man bron behind the camera. Um, just for

letting me be a part of the show. You know, I came on a little later, but you know we had a couple of little trials and tribulations when I joined the show, And when he came I was like, hell, know that they're gonna work this. I got you know, so I guess people thought that, um, you know, whatever was gonna be, uh the difficulties, but you know it's been pretty good. James and Stills like my brothers. You

know what I'm saying. We're coming to gather on a lot of issues and a lot of insights would come from the show. We all sit down together and deal with that on that aspect, So you know, give it up for the Gangster Chronicles period all the time at the time, Yeah for show. See these casts are about to make me get sentimental. I said, I'm gonna stay up here and look hard all day. Ain't gona get sentimental. But I want to dedicate this show to my brothers.

You know, James Nate are like my brothers. We talked with each other every day. You know, we gotta play the show out and everything, and um, I just want to dedicate this to James because I've seen so much's growth in him since I first met him. You know, the first episode, James didn't talked to like the last ten minutes. I told Glasses when I got home, I said, man, I think we might have something. Man, but James gotta talk. It's like he was just sitting in the room just

checking us out. But I saw him grow to the point to where you know, he could come up here and do this ship by off now, you know. So I want you all to give him a round of applause because that's my hero right there. Wow, my nigga whatever forever and like you know, a c and we went through the trials and tribulations. I ain't gonna talk about that. You know, Reggie was a part of the show,

and whatever happened with him happened. And then you know, everybody knows we went on this long time follows to the show, but it's like this, you know, when everything first came up, we did start getting a little attention on the show. We had different companies calling us that wanted to talk to us, but each situation just seemed

like it was kind of filed. Me and James will go to these meetings and James would be excited this ship and I'm like, man, I don't know if that's a good look for us, and I just thank him to just just trust me with everything. You know, is everything we're going and we go still keep going, but to continue with the thing, because that's what we all about,

are about the streets. We got a brother here. Now, this brother here, he allegedly sold a whole bunch of dope and different stuff like that, didn't have no no injuries, went through your whole street career when no injuries, they had two rooms every day and then. But yeah, so so it so happens to where he just be coming out. He happened to be out in l a on some whole other stuff to visit somebody, and he gets put in the wheelchair, get shot to get paralyzed. But he

didn't turn bitter, he didn't turn angry. You know, waiting the streets are still as heavy as it ever was, you know what I'm saying. This brother right here, and he wrote a book too, huh. Fourteen books, Yeah, and show brothers inside the Penitentiary how to read. Let's give it up for the homie Cliffers Bug Johnson right right right, appreciate it now spelled. We got a mutual friend, man. You're the home girl Testla for girl man. You may know where. She's a well known news that you know

news analysts and political analysts. You can see her all the time, only sister on Fox News. Um, she talked to box you all the time, man, go back, we go back to shoes. Little baby. Yeah, she said, you don't want that. Told her when she was a little girl back there and she need to take her as to school. Yeah, yeah she was. She was close to going the other way. I said me, it ain't nothing

out here with this. You need to get on. And then I see her a few months in between after I see her here, and then she said, I need to go to Dallas. If I don't get out of here, I don't know what I'm gonna do. So I hucked her up and set up down the Dallas. Give it little something, get right, And I said, you just kind of your business, like you don't want I don't want that, Just gonna do you. At that time, I was so heavy, and I'm like, you don't be dead on jail anyway,

But I don't make you. I don't know I did something right with it? Are you sure? I'm like, yeah, I'm cool, going to do you. And I lost contact with her for at least about a decade or so.

She found got my name through a mutual friend because she never knew my real because I was ote, so everybody don't eve knew Spud there ain't know nothing else, and she found he got my ass, she wrote, and he came and see me like teen years later when I was in old mind, I'd already been down like Elevin, and she rode with me the rest of the bid

I mean rid fly. At that time, she was in uh, Florida, Orlando, and she was fine, like once a month from Atlanta, who comes spend a weekend with me, you know, and just telling me all what she was doing. This was really before she was heavy in the politics. She had just really was getting her foot on doing certain things. But you know, she pressed the line some bushes and then now she went it Fox News clowning. They respect her. They really feared though, for real because no like her,

like her show straight shot, no Chases. She ain't playing And I'm like, man, you season a number when you get all this from She's like, huh. She got me watching policies. Man, let me tell you something. I couldn't stand politics because I felt the all fakers lived from Obama on down. He's gonna give you these prospection in the past. When Obama was running for office, he was

promising how the crack lag gonna go. One is gonna go one to one, this and that, this and that didn't get in there, and his hands is tired and he can't do it. But I didn't know none of that. Then I learned though that from her it's a it's a process for everything. Just because you're president on me, you know, you can just make this happen. So now they gave me a little bit more respectful Obama, and she every day she's giving me some type of tidbit

or game about the politics. Now, man, I'm looking at it turning on there. You said I'm gonna see any and I'm on Fox. I'm on all of them just because her, Because now I understand more so you got to give a shot at her for that. Dea for sure shut out. She's been able to school us being uh, coming from our side of the tracks, you know what I'm saying, trying to live that neighborhood lifestyle whatever, and then being able to flip over in the politics and

learning the game that those people come from. She's been able to school a lot of us on the insights of what you probably were knowledgeable about as far as politics. She got me on it. But I like most though, it is how She could give you an analogy about anything, but she's showing you how crips and bloods and how we getting down on the streets. It's and in the pan it's so similar how the politics get in. She break it down like that, and you're like, Dan, you

know what I mean? Yeah, just stuff, understand that from that street side, saying she's the school. Motherfucker's on. Hey, you didn't know that this, and let's let me break it down to you in street terms. That's what one of her her main things is, let me put it in street terms for you so you can understand. And it's just like a button click, like damn, you know what I mean. She always said she I'm trying to

get eight to go on to run for me. Here counter she keeps saying that, yeah, man, you know, so spoil let's go back. So I assume if he was out of town in Oklahoma, he was out there handling your business, doing my thing. He was out there doing your thing. How long was you out there? Uh? Until I called my case at ninety nine seven years because when he was down there doing a goal there that it was a good run, that was a good out of town. And how much time do you wind up

doing seventeen and a half years. They give me seventeen and a half years. I did fifteen years and eleven months. I've been home since two thousand and fifteen. And so while you was in there, you started a program to where you help brothers start learning how to read the books and stuff like that. Right, yeah, it came about you know when the car, when you're in the fest, it's really states, your states. Just kick it up. And then you got the bees to see sup. So we're cool.

It's just us, but so you don't really get outside your circle. Its state. This is Callie, where you're tremping blood square open and whatever. It's Callie. And then when my book first came out, at that time, I had dropped my first series with call Whoever and the Homies, I was getting book shifted in Homies let me read you when everything and I'm just giving him to the homies to read. And this is one particular HOMEI he's

from Houston. They led him in the car just because he had Fami the cafortable and Sweet messed with us. And then I could just tell it was like he check me on me. Oh man, this is tight, I'm gonna read it. And it's just like we're being there watching TV. You can see sometimes we got a little gamnet tickets where bat on sports and you could seem like screen, I'm gonna blind or something's wrong with you. He's a don't know, man, my eyes have been hurting? Is this? And I just picked up on some kind

of room. I left me something you can't read on you look at some spin you ain't now I can't. I said, so, how do you functionate? I'm saying, it's like, really, I fake it as I know. We ain't gonna do that. I said, we ain't can do it. Every day home, come to the room with me. Were fin the kid, We're gonna top it up. You're gonna read this. You're gonna read this book on your own. And told me I saw it the home and start didn't and he come to be able to read a chapter on his own.

I got it. You know, we gotta whisper because you know that ego. You gotta keep that front up in it. So after that I went down to the education. It was like a man, uh, I want to teach a class and they knew everybody around the yard knew I had books out from prison. I signed my deal or whatever, so then I got that, I got the little class started, and I had like fifty people in the class, like damn. So in beginning I start off just and look everything that goes on in the air, I'm staying here, man.

We ain't putting it with your homies the different cause we can't keep this in here. Man. First of all, if you have a filmmenty and read, let's talk about that too, because I want to set up something where we can start getting people to getting up out of here and having a shot. Instead, they teach you how to fell out the applications antybody even filling out paper applications. Everything is own line. So but you got to know how to read. And that's how I started. So I

started teaching. It was just basically giving them the floormat on how to write a book if you're interested in that, and then slash. If you don't have the problems read, we're gonna break it down and we're gonna learn how to do it. And it's like ninety day classes. Man. I did that all the way my last three years, so got out and every time and just to like I say appreciation that they showed me a little panel back. Man, I love you, love you, and just like telling your

home y'all love you. I love you because you showed me something and that that just stuck with me, you know what I mean. And it was a good feeling, real good feeling. Yeah. So how many brothers would you estimate that she was able to help learn how to read during the whole time every ninety day. So that's four it's four times a year, three times times three years, said Hunter. So it's your Hunter brothers out there to know how to read. Man, that's some really, that's incredible.

And it was ammies from like I said, different states, from Texas, mainly Texas because I was in Beaumont, but I had some Filly dudes and New York dudes, you know what I mean, some Louisiana cats. Just after each class, after the ninety days is up, they send a sheet to the unit. They put them on the wall all the class we signed your name, and that's the chip.

When the come of my you and I go to the bathroom, I look my whole listens feel my classes already feel y'all got to hold up to the next one. No time off the ride. No, no, ninety days way and weaken then you go back in the next ninety day. That's cold ship, man. So let me ask you this. So you got out, man, how lit your incident happened? Man? Take a step by step through the whole thing, the whole process. You know. I got out and uh, basically I knew by me being me. I love my neighbor

I'm for me go a Singapore. So I love my neighborhood, and I know the best thing for Spud though I'm not active doing more. I need to stay away because all even in prison, I've always tried to keep a pulse on my set on what's going on in my neighborhood and sometimes keeping the pulls on you. Let's pay some bills real quick and checking in with our sponsors.

Why you act? This is o g gangster Granny and against the Chronicles podcast is bad in effect getting ready for some of that g ship and blaze up some water mirrow. I canna stay away to get that done, keep pushing my books and keep doing my thing. And since I've been on, I've been letting him two a year, so I'm like I'm in Houston you know, I'm diving

into Houston doing my things, staying away. So one of my young homes, like ben torn out here, man, we haven't one eleven day on Hood Day and they weren't even doing the Hood days and none of that ship. When I was out, I was like Hood days, Like, yeah, torn up for the day when he left me. But you know what, I'm gonna come then, I told Tess, and I ain't going to that ship. She likes. Later on that day, I'm going to road. Fuck it. We're glad than I ain't going to road. So I'm telling

me not to go on to stay. She said, we don't go. I might. I ain't been to the hood. I'm going to keep my home, meet my young homes. So I end up going. Now. I followed something that I always told tessan follow your first one. Don't never said that's your first month. We use indivisial room. I to tell that all the time. If I would have followed my first mind and not certainly needs some sixteen kids, I wouldn't want to the fifth. So I'm following my

first month. So I get out of here and we end up having a beautiful day with the cemetery, seeing on our dead Paris Besch. When got something to eat, went to the bowl and I had a good time, fun, just good fun, being drinking, smoking, good day on January left my hood day. The next day, I'm so faded from folk. I'm laid up that I said, I'm leaving Sunday, so let me go make it a run and see some armies. So I'm bounced around. It's get onto the evening.

Types out of me to going back go to Churchill Mams take her to brunch and go and hit that plane back about here. So I'm headed to my hops house. I'm on the phone with telling yeah, I'm on my way into the padd my homie camp Man. January twelf of eighteen. My my girls mother passed and she had

all my books. He said, man, you were we all there, had cooking, some new ticket printed some When I'm tired, I ain't trying to do no drinking after the going and he said, man, you really can do something if you just come see her and just sign her books for can't you do that? I'm like, we gonna catch her on the next right next next time. I'm too tired, and the man come on man, I'm like, all right, man,

drop me the pin. So I'm talking to town. Tell me, I don't feel like this ship, but I'm not gonna swing over while you ain't going while you just going to go, like, man, fuck it if you don't drop this pin by time I get to this freeway, interest I'm gone. As soon as I got by the freeway and see hit turned away, I'm in the turner. I ain't getting ready to turn on the one tin turned away and went over on eight and San Petro and

another thing. When I was growing up and doing my thing on the streets home, you started to go to other hoods. And I'm not leaving Anywood because he said something happened. I know where to run. I don't know nothing about Compton. I don't know about the east side. Something. Nob he's got beef everywhere. I don't know what. I don't know how to get away over there. I'm standing in my section. Cha always stayed away from that. That was another thing. That was a triple body. So I

get over there. I'm in the car. I'm looking. You got a long white gate pin up eight five, So I'm like, okay, nobody still a fly by on new side of me. But if I really pay attention the front part of San Pedro, the gate don't turn. This is all after thought because I only I focused on that. If I would have turned right and looked left, I was a new So I said, okay, figure I go and hugged the homey meet his girl signed the books. They're making me a plate, righty, making me a plate

next to somebody right by? What's up? Girls? Blah? And I feel a pinch, damn, and I fulled so and in my ears I heard like a sweet sound in my ears. So I'm like, damn. So I try to push up and only my half and I like, tell on me, give me out of heat, and went and ran up and started dumping at whatever. So I told the home girls. The home girl toto, get me out the way. So she paused me and I said, I'm hit. She's like, where I see It's gotta be in my back of my side because I can't feel my legs.

You know what I'm saying. It's just shock, I said in umpare allowed, Just get me out the way, give me my phone, got the phone, called test and told her and I'm hitting. I'll defend the table in the hospital and put the locator on follow me and she's like you what. I'm like, man, I'm hit. You just just got on the phone with It wasn't even ten minutes. So I go go through that. I wake up, went open my eyes first person, I see it's testing, So

I'm thinking it's a dream. What's happening. She's like, you got shot? I said, what you're doing here? She I wanted to make sure you had somebody here with you. Open your eyes and she was right there. But my side a whole humbug, the whole I shouldn't have came in used. I'm fighting that, so I shouldn't have went over there fighting that. I went to get something my vowed I would never do, and I did it twice. You know what I mean. That's what testing like. To

tell me that was the Holy Spirit? Then you you're always fighting. People say it's your first find whether it's the Holy Spirit? Time to tell ourself. Can I can take that? But I didn't listen, And I'm just mad at myself because I was not coming. I wasn't even coming. Then I came, had a good day, so I felt good about it, and then this happened, but I'm still not mad. I mean, it is what it is. I'm gonna take it on the chin and on my young home. He looked, what what hood did it? We don't we

to the just chimp? And he said, noah, because there's something happened to y'all behind this happened to me. I'm gonna feel bad. Let that down, man, I'm still here and ain't over to us. Oh, I got plenty more books come out, I got these stream plays gonna come out. I'm gonna do my thing. If I get back on my feet cool. If I don't, it ain't gonna stop. I can show you. Just let it go, let it go. Took it on the chin hard, though? How hard? What's that hard for you? To let that go? Very? And

I'm in pain. I'm in constant pain. I didn't have spatters in my legs while we're sitting here, and I'm just I'm just taking it. You can't till sometimes he me s hard to just a break it just it's a pain. I can't even explain. And at night, like last night, I had a bad night. I can't go see to like five in the morning. This pain get on you and it just stays. And people had that

you paralyze, you can't feel it. Good shit, Please remove that illusion, they said, remove that fucking the Louison because it's not true. So, you know what I mean, Some nights I had them bad nights and my home we're right there, a little taco from the set and called

him and cry like a baby. You gotta come on homes close enough that I can just let it out with They're like, call me, you know, come see me flying away from me and he handled and when they when they at you know, and everybody you hear, you know, you here, And then the beginning stays. Man, I'm like, man, nothing weak about me, I knowing nothing. I just survived too much, you know what I mean. Ain't nothing weak about me. But this breaks you down. It makes you

feel like you want to just kill yourself. That though goes to your mind, you know what I mean. Then it's like, okay, I got this, look shit, I got something to there, folks, you know what I mean. Then there's times where I don't want to call the homely blood. Come bring me a pistol, bring me something. I'm just gonna go on the east side and just shoot me

some of them things over there period. I mean, I've had those days where I've been in the core and I'd have rolled over in that area strapped, and then to do somebody have a hobspeed chase that can't get away. I'm hold enough with it out here and let me knowing to be trying to do it in jail, so I have just sense kick in and I roll on

back and deal with it. But every day is a struggle because how couldn't you not want to retaliate, because that's that's how we was for the fact that you are still here and you have to reminisce on the fact that, well, that would make any motherfucker like until you, like you say, James, until you heal those demons and those thoughts. But that's hard. I've been shot both times that you want you want to liffering occasions you're ready to get the motherfucker. The closest was right here by

my nuts with a shotgun. I still got the buckshots in me and then my back. And every time you get shot, you say fucking. But going back home and back to the hood, you can't say fucking. It's go time. Yeah, you gotta feel that way, but I mean the repercussions of it. It's a month and just thank God that that I didn't lose my life four different times. You have to think about it, you know what I'm saying, a lot of cats out of here want to get

shot you. That ain't a good feelingship. You know what reality? Some of you say it's the real ship. Because when I was like about fifteen, I should be like telling, I can't wait till I give me, give me a shot, you know what I mean? That's how fun that we're here, like I can't wait till I get And it's sixth seen. I got shot with the twelve gage. I still got buckshots lined up all on my left side. All them

came out like the move is. I got six bunch shots left and this is from UM eighties seven SIPs eight six. Mother still in there, still in there. The bullet in my bag is still in there. This one here was working with me so much under my arm, I had him take it. They took the motherfucker, the one right here, still sitting right up my little thing right here. But I mean, every time you get shot as a motherfucker, and it's like then it was all about which when I got hit old cage, wh was

up about the hospital? That's right? They're like, oh we already know y'all win. I ain't win, that's right, you know what I mean? And growing up, how we're growing up is so fucked up. That's what's so cooling about it. So fucked up. We're so stagnated living in another states where I can go to any part of any state, any port without no worries, no looking over about. I can't take you there, baby, can't. You know? I got baby flash. I don't want to go a bit nude

going to go That's how my section. Baby, I can't. You know, I ain't going up. Why you don't you want to live? You don't enjoy California. I don't even enjoy life, you know what I mean? Because you so if the home, oh no, they'd be over there too. Deep baby, then you know, oh no, I ain't going to that ball six years to be over there. Well, I can't do you know what I mean, living your life like that? Just it took me out of town

to really see. Damn, this ain't doing nothing. You go out of town, you're having a boat, you're getting their money, and you're chilling and you're going on this side. You see trips, but you ain't worrying about Kim. They don't know me. Ain't never done anybody on the same purpose. Yeah, everybody getting the second. Wait, that's way finished. I gotta I gott a serious question the dude go, so I don't think up thing. Who was he at over there? It was right to ask no, But he walked the

ship backwards. He didn't started up right there. He was trying to be a little for light. He shouldn't push it all the way until he got to the name. Motherfucker. Wasn't scary that. I got a serious question. But all you've been through and where you're at today, do you tell a little homies my niggas, It ain't that goddamn serious. It's okay to be who you are, but it ain't that goddamn serious. I tell es, I got a lot of young armies that I just met, riders that ain't

they just with the bullshit? I see him with this man, I love to set to going to raise him. Man, I love him, But what you're gonna get You ain't getting no money, You ain't working, you ain't even hustling you out here, just some of the day to day game banging. What you're gonna get from this, but to see if some grief and get your family. Greek man, we about this is our turn. I said, yes, your turn, but think about it. You really should listen to somebody

has already have been through. Nigger lucky home, n this is before the cheer. I'm lucky. It's God, it has to be, you know what I mean. I go seek to detention centers. I did in Oklahoma. I did in Texas at UH when that was Testas set that up. It was a Texas Southern College. And then I go to the juvenile halls and just we are doing this pandemic. We've been doing zooms just to see how the kids

hang on my every word. And I'm because I'm telling that this ain't no movie, This ain't no scared straight, I ain't trying to scape. Just real, look at it, and this was a fluke, you know what I mean,

It's real. I think the problem with that is because ship just like we was when we was fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, it was hard for motherfucker to tell us not to bang or rept the hood because we felt like ship, what else is it if you're doing it still at end them the day because we've been there and done that. The way we used to get down is totally different. The time they used to give you back then setay two hours. If a motherfucker didn't show up, you walked

away from my mind. Now today you're getting motherfucking life at fourteen, fifteen years old. They don't give a fuck. But when when we was doing it, I mean, it was a slap on the ridge, get the funk on. You know, they see us again something you know what

I'm saying. But some dude listen and something don't. What is the effect of the motherfucker's who tell you just like I'm been through them the episodes too at fifteen sixteen and the motherucker trying to tell you you shouldn't this and that, and I'm looking at him like, nigga, fuck you, this this the hood. But that's the problem. Today. You can't we can't be hypocrites because I look like a damn food on this podcast telling another cat you're

fucking stupid for doing what you do. I've been there, I've done that ship, so I look stupid telling him, you're a freaking idiot for going out this shooting somebody that was my life. So I can't tell him that, but I can sit him down and say check this, o nig, this is where you're gonna go if you keep doing what you do, if you want to get down like this, I can't stop you. I ain't you daddy,

I ain't your uncle. One day you're gonna say that motherfucker told me, whether if you're letting in prison or the last fifteen minutes of mother in the hospital. Holly, for God, every time I got shot off, God, but I wouldn't even call his name back then. I didn't. That was a sign of weakness for me. The holmeis damn sure, ain't gonna hear me say God. But you know what it is. It's just really to answer your question for real. It's a sign of the times. I'm

a second generation single with blood. We respected the big homes. The homies say, man, y'all stay out the way, or y'all gonna be with it. One of the two that was my big homes, the homes. Now we got homies up fund of me that they handled their thing. They passed it down. But now it's a whole new day. Drugs play a main factor in our time. Drudge play the main factory because we choosing to get money. We was using drudge to get money. We weren't out there

Molly and lean and all these drugs, ecstasy. I'm looking at one of my little hommaries, Core riding just sitting there stuck out the pistol, leaning against the wall, chewing, looking crazy strong with that man on that ship. Man with just they snort and power, they popping peels, Milly's and oxy and present percocess. They said, y'all that drug at doing game. Man out of the drug. How are you gonna move? If the ops hit the block and dunk you stuck? You can't even run, didn't let alone

talk about you fnna go bust on somebody. And with the technology they got nappoplar, we all would have had life senses if they had damn they ain't. Got every house in the neighborhood got a camera on it. You roll down the street, up on somebody, you see it, They're gonna follow your whole route to come come get you. So if they had that technology in the eighties when he was doing in the night, and we all would

have been in jail GPS alone, and they ain't. Y'all just jumping in your own care or your sister's car and just riding around doped up, thinking about if I'm dumbing somebody anything, if just don't scare it in nothing with you destined to die, You destinely the life sense, playing it simple. So do what you do. Think I'm still here and I'm still breathing, and I'm loving it. I hope you get fifty plus and can look back and think the same way we got. We got our

uncle over there, hey, you and his brother. You say he re do the yard the juveniles, zooms. That's what we do with him, with father, the father and ship. You're somebody that we need to reach these yas. Yeah, man, I'm trying to get it in at all. I'm trying to get into juvenile because see me, I feel. Get me filed here and get me in central juven get me in the LP, giving them camps, get me in.

Why I've been through all that, I know where it's like to come up in there, and like I tell you, my homies, now y'all got it so good, blood savage, These young bloods gout is so good, I said, y'all, so you're all so strong now you don't know about going in that motherfucking see eighty trips and you and then you look over one the other side you see another homie sitting down like damn, and now they're dropping

their head. You're going in the county jail now, and it's you're telling me it's thirty homies on one mile mainline, but no bloods walking on mainline in the eighties. You'll get killed. You'll get killed, halving the motherfucker's halving the bloods that was coming in. That motherfucker was coming in there with no shoe strings on. Scared the death because that's after you get served a couple of times, I said, y'all gonna get me, but I'm gonna get one, that one,

so make sure you ain't that one. Y'all gonna I know you're gonna get And that's that's what my reputation through juven holes. Why it was the whole thing. Oh that nig is gonna squabble. So after a few ass whippers and me getting one, then you come through there and what's up? But they what's up from who got nick cut Well that's the nick spuff bing with on here go and they even and they leave you alone. If you if you suck up and you were pushing in one jail, that's your don't follow you on every

wherever you go. That ship gonna your dame. You say, I don't bang and one goddamn jail. You better not banging now jail now, penitentiary because you don't get exposed. And that was the one thing that I said, more than anything in this world. I'm never while I'm in this fully, i am never not having no smug on my name, my name. I'll take a life sence before I have smug on my name. And that's how it was,

you know what I mean. Like I said, my generation we did, I think, but the generation of you watched it get progressively more dangerous. So I'm looking at my thing and I'm going out of getting this money. So now I'm on this fostering and don't see a lightweight hanging. But I'm seeing how these things is doing. Like old ever back away for these little things. They're doing a little bit too much. Rest in peace, little rat, you know what I mean. Rioters. So I'm like, no, you

exlutely too dangerous for me. I'm having fun getting this money. I'm gonna enjoy this life. Then I get knocked for the fedst don't get cold with not and they sell me. I'm like, I don't, I got some change. I'm on the run. First, talk to my little homie like, man, what you got there? I gotta catch me. Then finally I get shot on the run in the knee. I saw. Now it's time we gonna I'm in Denver. These things banging so oil. They lower that murder. I'm turning myself in.

Then we get the time out the way. I ain't gonna do more than ten loy I get your chin. We get out the way going that motherfucker, I get it. They tell me I got a conspiracy to distribute sixteen point five Keto's a track, and they ain't got nothing but three dudes saying I sold it to him. I'm going to trail. Let's do this. I'm about to line up. I'm about to go to trail. My home with Taco from Christian Mark Duty. He was in the fads and

Mamie Muggs was in the fads too close. Owners ain't with Yeah, that's my home, we go to school, we draw from five years on up. He he was in the bed doing this little bit. He wrote me, list man, we know you got that money. We know you, we know you don't fight these people. Take this time, get out the way, and I'm like. Then the next she said, very next day, I get a little for taco. He just been down twenty two years. He hit me, said, I'm on my way home home and I want to

see you again. You see what they gave me. And that was when I was eighteen and you thirty. Come on, but later I'm taking you said, even if the deal fifteen, it's gonna sound like it's too much. Just lay down and do that time. Come home on. And I thought about that. Then I thought about what the d A lady told you had assistant District attorney told She said, listen, this is your options. One plea out without co operation,

and get what I decide. I want you to get plea out with cooperation, and I'm gonna get you closest the five of our can depends on how many people you get me or third. And I love you California dudes for this. Take me to try, take me to trail. You're gonna have you, your kids, kids, gonna have grand kids by the time you come on, if you don't die in prison. So it's something that you're going back and listen all the stories in there about me and

then tell me what you want to do. Then I get the letters from the homies, my baby mama like, man, just take a deal this ship. When I'm didding tender like, oh no, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm not signing nothing with they ten, okay, but tender life now, then, my lord, you put it up on it. He said. Tender life is just they standing. It goes on your

criminal history. Lucky, I ain't never being convicted as an adult on anything, and they couldn't use my juvennam so my numbers failed fourteen and a half years to seventeen years. So I took the deal. But when I went to court, because I didn't tell, she brought a Dudeya. Every time I saw the mckeago or cocaine, I had a gun. So now that up my numbers for seventeen and a half being my low head, two four being my high and my and my lawyer was said, when it's two ten,

he put some years. I was like, man, I'm not man, how am I taking this ship? Man? You ain't taught me with nothing? And he said, my lawyer give him eighty. He said, look, man, I'm gonna give you sixty back. I'm gonna take to twenty for travel to take this. Take the deal because like the grand jury certified, once they certified what they were, it is God law. And I'm like, okay. So I come up out it with seventeen and a half years in two thousand and I

come home two thousand and fifteen. But while I was in prison, I wrote twenty seven bucks and I got fourteen of them out right now. So I found that talent. So I think that was my blessing. The time was all this ship, Like my mama said, he got all this time for stuff you got away from. Think about all this stuff you got away with. It could have been worse, and it would have been worse to take this time and learn something. Come out of there with

some degrees, do something. Don't you come out being the same spuds my mama tell you. So let me ask you this, But you wrote how many books? I wrote twenty seven? I got fourteen fifteen published number sixteen come out June twenty nine, and you, um, I heard that you would only Dude Street through that. He with a major deal to make. I'm the only West Coast gangster with a major publisher on the East coast car Webber's

Urban Books. That's some dope ship and so so so the first one, how did you come up with that? Like you just started writing one day. I was in the home. I stuck her digging. It was in the hole. I poked it again. Oh, they told about to lead this bitch better hope you don't die. And he made Let's pay some bills real quick and checking in with

our sponsors. Why are you at? This is o G Gangster Granny and the Gamester Chronicles podcast is back in effect, getting ready for some of that G ship and blaze up some wanna mirraw good good dude out of tow him dude running his mouth and uh, I have my mama sending me books, sending me, but man send me that. She said, boy, you better write something because I can't keep sending all these damn books. I said, I read everything, read the Boyle. I read that twice and the Koran.

So she said, Okay, write a book yourself. Alright, my mom, I'm laying back in the old board. Now. Should started playing with a little story. I'm thinking I can't create nothing, so I'm writing like I write about sugar or mountry. You know what I'm saying. Here a run and use them, but I changed the name. Describe here run as tall and dark, skinny with a ball head, you know what I mean. Totally different. But they actually go and I should start having fun with it, and I'm playing them

that homies in the whole read that. Man, you ain't finished no motion. I'm doing legal past ship and down hold what they sounding like? Man, you got something? So that's how I started just playing around with it. Then I asked gud you to get out of this. I promise you I'm gonna little that a little bit. I promised. I'm gonna slow down just a little bit. So I get out the hole and I tell the home me man, I'm put the start being library. I'm gonna teach myself

about tampling right this book. So I'm in a live every day and I'm pecking. Then I get the little bander they give you where you use that pinky for this one? This one and I taught myself by the type, and then I wrote my first book, was Told to the Wheels Flow, and then I wrote another call confidence your phone. These ain't even out. I'm gonna read on. And then I wrote this book called Secrets. Then my

homeware and Troine Smith from Louisiana, New Orleans. He said, Man, Terry Woods accepting uh submissions, just right to stay out you nigger's way. I'm in the library from seven thirty to t in morning, after lunch from twelve thirty to three, and in the evening from five day. By then I'm tired. I come back unit shower and get in the room.

Any any rhetorican going I'm missing because if something kick off from the yard, you ain't got enough time to come to because they're gonna stay in the yard down. So I'm using this. He'll be duck Rick for real. God, I'm like ship, I got five years in, I'm still got a decade to row. I can't keep doing this. And the old head say, man, this is for you, highly intelligent. I can tell about your conversation. Man, don't let this time, do you. And it's old head named

missed the Holly rest in peace, from Austin, Texas. He was and he came to the Fitz in the nineteen seventy six and I meet him in two thousand, folks, and he's still and he died in the you know what I mean. So I got down. I'm starting to get a feel of it. And then I Will wrote a book called California. It was called Snow Bunny, but it's called California Love. That's the one to actually get my deal. Terry Woods take my secret book and she bought that and my brother book Confident for him for

twenty five thousand apiece. So I got twenty five thousand, one book thousand the next book, I said, taking me about three months to write these brother. So I'm doing it man, man, but nice. And when I get up money, but I meet this do when I go to another spot. The word the fans is just like I don't know, it's just wherever you go from different spots and now everybody know your rep they know you or that's the neighboring from old, that's that blood thinking from Egal. What

he ain't playing, So that's t writing new bookstore. You know what I mean. He got books out. It's in the live Beary. So I meet that. I meet this dude named Jimmy the Saint from Philly. Much love to him because he put my career on the whole of another path. He said, man, you're bragging the people. You're making twenty five thou book like you fucking right now. I'm in ties. I'm I'm putting for a year. That's a hundred a year. Nigger you talking about, he said

on me. They can make a million dollars off your book and you ain't gonna get another penny. He said, but you need to learn the business, get you in. I'm like, but so he said me down. I mean every day after my workout, I come. I stopped type writen and was getting this game from him. He said, I'm gonna turn it on to this lady. They got an up and coming company and she's gonna give me your best book out right now. And it was called Snow Bunny. So when I gave it to her, she

changes to California Love. That was my first release, and she gave me a contract with fifteen thousand out of advance. Then once her fifty come back, I give the royalties for the rest of my life. Two times a year at uh to two dollars and fifty cent a book. See, I didn't getting the royalty, didn't know nothing about no royalty until I met Jess. That was just buying you out there pretty much. But I didn't have a first She told me somebody ain't by, but I will put

them by. One call that said, I want my name on. I didn't even talk about doing money. I got a quota, but let my name you on the suit. My name's when she said, no problem. So we took that and I moved forward. And she still never put the books out. A good friend of mine still trying to get me the bout the books back. I say, ship they yours said, So Jimmy gave me the game, turned me on the Karen Caring ended up going to funk. She couldn't keep doing she was losing money. So she was working for

Carl Webber as his main assistant Raban Bucks. So now I'm like, you, coach, say you got the rights, California loves yours. Whatever you want to do, we got it be cold. I'm like, okay, cool, she said, but look you got someone. But I said yes. He said, I'm gonna get you a deal and you're Fenna being raw more target. You're gonna be abroad everywhere. I'm like, what kind of dearly talking about? She said, talk to him.

So I talked to car and he's like, man, I know you're in prison, but your books is so strong. You already got a good father, and I think I can take you to the next album. Send me your best best two books. So I sent him his book called Gangster Tuist one and two, and I sent him to give me a deal nice, I mean, you know nice with the royalties thirty five plus up front, you know what I mean, seventeen five book. Now, once he made his money back, that's when my royalty's kick in

every May and November. And then that's how I grew it. Then I've ended up giving him one, two and three, and then he don't play fash, she don't play fair. I gave you six books, Keen pens over on the City. I gave you six books from the time I got turned on him, from two thousand nine to two thousand and fifteen until I came home. And I's been on since I've been home. I don't let two books out a year except for last year. Last almost two years I've been down and you know promotion going to the

city to city bow. I mean here, I am fished out the fans that I'm going to East State and it ain't the state. I ain't gonna go through that. I know somebody that was in the first or calling home he went went Since since how did Detroit men tell himmu? Did Tim brings people up there? And the people who I'm doing the signings, it becomes redundant. This

is what we're doing from basically May October. That's the little circuit run where you hit Detroit, Columbus, Cincinnati, Indiana, then you hit Philly, New York, Jersey, and then you hit the South. And what's so crazy? What I'm thinking, how can I hear all these states and getting all this money but can't feel good? California is like number twenty on my list, it's my best sellers. How come where I'm from, where I know thousands of bloods because

everybody houses of crips. Why motherfucker's can't get my book at home? This is says, that's just how we do it because we don't read, and we don't read. We're too visual. They do that in music but yeah, we're too visual. We want to see the movie instead of read the book. But you know they always say the book is better than the movie. But in California, no matter how many problem, I had four books signings at

the mall one deo. I said about twit thirty books. Man, I go to Detroit, I gotta literally about my books in like six cases in and bring like fore with me on the plane because I'm gonna sell out. I go to Columbus sell out and it's the same people every time. It ain't like it's a whole bunch of new people. It's I heard about you. Hey, I got some over you. If you go to sign it, you can't bring me the old books you got to sign.

You gotta buy one. Man, I got this book. I bound with this with signing just so they can put it up. And then that's how you build it and the building a night. Right now, I'm a national best selling Arthor builds your farther from the ground up, from the from the prison to the street. I'm still trying to get the West coast. I'm trying to get the house, but I can't lose money. Set and trying to get home to cracket, y'all here with it. I'm gonna get

on the street again. That's my whole thing. Now, I'm gonna get on the street because it's banks from every city. Yeah, you know what I mean for real. But at the same time, y'all, y'all want movies in that's coming to because now I just feel like it ain't nothing I can't do, yeah, for sure, because West Coast is definitely a more visual place. So let me ask you this man, did you go through any therapy or anything, man to get past that? They past what the injury and stuff

like that, physical therapy or psychology. So she was your psychic in my ears, and then you know, I'm you know, I watch your mouth. If you getting too sick, nig, you're stupid, stupid, you're acting weak. Listen that ship. Don't motivate me, young, I'm gotten the motive. You gotta tell me something that cause you pissing me off. I don't keep pissing your sound weak. Ain't nothing weak about you. I've been looking up at you since I was a key.

Ain't nothing weak about you or the painion. They could take it, take the medication they can to take all the way around. That's from the from the mental side of it. Shit. Even right now, I got Texas right now telling me what to say. Make sure I say this is don't you say that, don't do that? Oh yeah, that's she does it all. I mean literally, she's been

my publicist, my psychologists, ship, my financial backy. I mean, did she just told me say, look, man, that will chell you where We're gonna get you to let you real cheer. Now. I don't want to let you game away. I got a little bit start working out, doing what you gotta do, loose weight. Okay, if that don't work, we're gonna get this. So the support she gave me has given me. It's tremendous and I and I tell all the time I ain't even worthy of it, you

know what I mean. But at the same time, she sees something that I don't, and I trust him even though with Tessa, let her talk, because if you're trying to insert something, she gonna look at you like you crazy and say, I'm not for to tell you nothing that I am not already one. It's right, it's any room for me to be wrong, If it's any move for me to be wrong, I'm going to say, wait

a bit, let me look at something. So take this long nigger and stopping from sure, so let me ask you this because we have them, it's gonna be people trying to get ask you for this. Man, Where are you at online? Where can they find you? Whether you have a website? Nod, Yeah, you can get at me at the ww dot kipper Johnson dot com. That's my website that I check on and take orders and ask any questions anybody wants to know about writing. Mostly everybody tell me, oh, I want to write a book. I

was gonna write this book. I wonder write. How do I do? What I said? Start putting the key in to the paper or a finger to the keys and start. And you gotta know what you want to write about. First of all, everybody got a story through I tell everybody around we all got a book or the more especially the ship we've been through and mye thing I try to stay away from the one thing I try to stay from, and any of my right I did

any California love. I had crimp hoonies, like damn, you're using crab of a little bit too that I had bahomies. But why you gotta put stop the tow me. Listen, this is where we're from. If I'm gonna have some game bankers in the l A crips, donna say that I gotta add a crypt dialogue when they with each other, that's how they talked, and with bloods, that's how they talked. It wouldn't be real if I it would be watered damn. So I can't right. So what I do is I

stay away from California. I baked my books Texas, Sir, Philadelphia, Oklahoma. I stay away from me because California loved those a real good read people was too like they couldn't be you know what I mean. Because besides that, man, I love the house, you know what I mean. But now I'm to the point where some of my best friends, oh, shoot, some of my best friends. Man, it's crypt. Shout out to my nigga's shopify those Broadway. I love that nigga.

I'm we was in this. We was in baumunt together and we neither one of us like none of the niggas from the County Court. We just got jam tight. He couldn't even see me have a slight argument with the nigga and shot Canna file and found the nick. I'm like sid with the nigga. Mis callie, this is my nigga man wasting pretty coloring. And I'm talking about literally Keyno from Main Street. That's my nigga from nine eight. You know what I mean, big slick for Bang Street

with this crazy that. I mean. I got some home nies, Oh Jr. From your head man, that nigga crazy hey, and he just keep you that because he gave somebody on that that fine, you know, I mean, he could kick dy broad. You know what I mean, just home, he said. We laugh and we knocked down decades together. Crips. You know what I mean. Nigga, I got called right now coming to see me for so for some of my own boy. He said that me can't ug you

think I love you nigging with my number. Let me get out of here because I know you may have them. Nigga's coming up here any minute. I said, gonna say nothing that he said, I know, but you know me, I will last, they asked, cause you know what I mean, that's not niggas. That's the crazy thing about it. Just like me, just like you, you know what I'm saying.

You believe in the homies. You believe in the hood, but then you're sitting down breaking bread and the cryptis the real, the really ones that fucking broke bread with me. That was there. You know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm in Hoover playing dominoes with nothing but Cryptian. You know, Nik, you ain't got nothing to worry about. I ain't worried, but goddamn, it's too bad. Exactly what if they don't

respect you like you think they do. It's just crazy, But it just lets you know what type of person you is to funk with them, type of side, you know what I'm saying. And it started off weird because I didn't believe in that we can't socialize because we're from different sides. But when a came, I was like, God, damn n c A. That dude is. He's been kind, but he from the other side. I was getting shot at. Listen to DJ Quick this and him, and then here you are, you know, and a lot of us don't know.

It's just who you meet and how you meet the motherfucker and how you funk with him. You don't have to be on no bullshit to be one hunter with the next motherfucker's real ship because at the end of the day, you know, but you got you got to be lucky enough to live here. But you're to see that,

you know what I mean, because it's succeed. I wasn't know nothing at ninety two on the piece ride when I seen you and Ma with Mike t y'all got the long CEM W. Jackson telling my team you better take that ship off, nigga and this is my groups for us and nigger coming to hered with that shot on. I'm gonna beat your I'm gonna show you a late night highting. I'm gonna so yeah, just me and my homie right there, we had this ship and he's so

calm and cool. He just say he leaves to my ear and say, thinking all these traps, I said, the homies, TV said, we look at all these traps. I say, right, he said, what if they change their mind? I said, I said, I said, I said, matter of fact, let's get closer to the motherfucking car. You might be right, but all taking something smaller, just everything go left. You control your mentality. You can't control the next motherfucker's mentality. All the time. You could be cool with everybody, but

everybody ain't cool. That's the that's the day. And ninety two it was the alcohol, the liquor and the women that that made me save That ship ain't gonna work. It ain't gonna last. Me and my homies keep referring to Momy little top. We was on news with our enemies from anity Gate. They had us sooner CBS. He was CBS one that came and got us in the limo to get banged out. But we like, how y'all speaking, it's the clip. You can look it up on my thing.

We and ninety two we's went the peace saying but for real. When it started, we had just came back from I mean we literally just landed from Moti. We had to swat me with racks buying everything. I'm like, we're just buying the flying ship and all. We runted with khakis and buffaloos and started Jackie's with the keen jacket.

Then we rolled to get it here because they say, man, it's rips in the hood down at the Muslim thing on next to Jance for this peace treat peace treaty in the city over they say that it's water Gate. We strapped up and roll down there. We're coming on some bullshit. We get in next year on news cameras. Oh yeah, it's the blood. I have got cameras. Shut do.

I'm loving the TV. We forget about the bullshit. We they tell us we're gonna come pick you up the next morning, and breakfast is on us and okay, so we spend it out in my path. That kept in the big limo. We jump in the limo. They got the champagne. Of those are mimosas. I hoo that orange you he said, no, that's what the fun is a mimosa. Oh it's champagne. And oh so we're thinking we fly. We gotta state records in front of us. We eat

drinking mimosis. Niggas gonna used to drinking Thunderbird and we're drinking momo. So we get to the TV, we do our interview, we start for the week. There. We loved it, but we know I said on one of my clips, if you look at my thing, I said, Man, if it don't happen now, they will never happen. And it didn't last. It was right back to the bullshit before the summer ended. But was that one more fucker to get loader and be like you got niggas calling from the pin and then I got a life sending you

out there Peace Street. The funk wrong with you? But it was the time, and I went back to say, if you're lucky to mature to reach our age, you can look back and say, man, thank you. You know what I mean, because man, I was some motherfucking food, you know what I mean. And it was like now, like I said, y'all, I say, man, y'all, y'all got a bad time. Man, I'm just gonna pray for you. But it was wicked. And I've been through some wicked ship and I've seen a lot of wicked ship, but

was so crazy out of all the depth. When I was in the fence, I think I lost part of this family members or whatever. But in the last two years, from November of shot nineteen November of nineteen to now, I've been two or had thirty three deaths. Now they all it's from this COVID, but not from the COVID. Not the homies. Mothers a lot, but homies every my Homi with Jimbo Rescue Peace from twenties and after that it was just Jim Bowler grizz Louis and it's just dying, dying.

I have never seen this much death and at over some others ship, some other ship. Then this game. Man. Now you had a few homies got shut up within me, but the majority sick. My homily Spider. He goes in now feeling well and he from family and he like, yeah, big Kevin children. He put on the map. I'm thankful God God got me. I'll see you on a minute. We had the repass of my home way hug for family.

He just died on his birthday. He had an aneurysm and died, and we had his repass and they called us and tell us from COVID he got home is getting hit by a car, d Baker and it's just all kind of different reasons. And to see that much death with outside of being because with us and crazy is this may sound, it's normal. We know what we was in. It's a normal old homey got shot. The emotion of man, let's do this, but it an't affect

you emotionally. These deaths right here's really hitting you because you're like, damn, I can get this ship and die. We don't know my me, specially with my underlying conditions. I can't catch that ship. Hurry. I can give me that vaccine, thank you. But this death again as you get older. And my mama said, boy, were all gonna die because I tell us stop talking about you. Boy, I'm almost here. I got mold days behind and they're not do in front of me, and that's it. But

I want you here. So now you look at death, and now you're like, you don't fear it, but you look at like, damn ex we respect it because look at all of what you've been through. My homie right there being in a week I keep referring to because I love him to death, because we've been together since he was a shower. He takes a leg, hit with a with a with a mean thing and busses leg go all up and put him in the wheelchair. He don't want to go home. He still hanging on the block.

He coming out in the block. Raymonds roll down the block and shoot him in the head. Now i'd have told this dude, mama, don't right here. Untold his dude, mamma, don't worry about I got him. He laying on the thing looking at me with a head shot. And now I gotta go down here and tell his mama the same one. He said, I got him, and I'm like, you know what I mean, But it was nor it didn't. That's the only thing that really hit me, mostly because I had him under my wing. So after that it

was it was go time period. I ain't thinking about nothing this goal time. But now you look back at all the gold times, it could easy for them. We all strapped, we fol deep in the car. We all saying, the police come, ain't no running being the coler stop, jump out when they run, We're dumping. That's how we're gonna get them over. That's how I meant that. Who the niggas, the homies and account of jail used to say, how do you niggas get caught with an A K

forty seven? I got called how do you get caught? And MARMI see he got lifecense and uh ah, you always say the same thing. Ain't no way in the world you pupposed to get caught with the gate pus. As soon as that one car get on you, you jump out. You got SETNI five around, you dump them and then you get on and they're gonna sit down. That was our mentality just doing this up. But that was our be foe deep. We gotta murder. We just got this. So we're already running on the hot one.

You ain't too many people getting from the ghetto. Bird. We gotta get them bout the way before they even called together birth. We have a shot. But that's what our mentality was. We can down like that right here. Lou Taco from Singapore and I'm like, damn, I'm looking back, like God, thank you so much for keeping your hand

on me. I was a damned food bugs. You ever think about it like this, man, with all the stuff you went through and now at what you're doing that maybe God had this plan for you the whole time. That's crazy. I wish I could show you the tape or whatever. My talks. Uh Oklahoma is one of the very first talks I did. And uh at the end of when I've seen how the kids were like, I had a spill for the girls and they had a

spill for the whole over thing. It was a meaning because it all came up the dome and it came from the heart. I was breaking them to the girls. Oh y'all know, I'll you know what y'all want, y'all want that. It's gonna give you the get you the fly rings and the fly hair dudes, and the Gucci bag. And they said, I said, but that's the show money there, because when he get caught, when he first saw, when he gets you to be pregnant, the baby's gonna have everything.

You're gonna figeg out a road from that. Everything's good. And then when you get he go to jail, he's gonna need you to come bringing that weed sex. We get paid for this, lawyer. Then it's gonna keep working. You're gonna stemping up to read the hair run and then you're gonna get coast. So now you're gonna be in jail. He's gonna be a jim. And you keep your family and your mom my, grandmama. If you're lucky, I gotta take care of your kids. I said, now think about that. Then I get at the dudes and

tell that man, this ship don't last. I'm looking in your eyes and I can tell who's with it and who's not. And I'm not gonna point you out, but I can look at you because I can see the food because I was once to food, and so I said back the end of the whole thing. When I tied off, I said, who do y'all want? Short money? Along money? Long money? Is that due to took his time? Square went to school, got him a job, rather it was met or what the college? You got a career

because that's gonna pay all long money. Then then here it's gonna go to Jim. So who do y'all want? I wanted to short money, short but you know long money, long money? Okay? Cool. I tell the dudes the same thing. But at the end, I said, man, listen, lord, my home was something about something. So they say, uh, I say, man, and this was this was It's beautiful that you asked that question, because this was a real touching point for me, and I knew then that this is what I wanted

to really do. I said, man, when I used to lay down and wonder when I should go to funerals and see see how homie being buried. That wasn't even really like that. We're being a homie. That was a mediocre game banger at best, where if they seen me and him next to each other, they're gonna be gunning for me more than him. And now I'm looking at his family, and I'm asking just crying and did it all this grief? And I was asking me why am I still here and why I'm not the one laying down.

I said, now I know the reason God kept me here to speak to y'all. God kept me here to give y'all my story. And that's where and that's what it was. And it feels so good saying it because I need. I give him all my card. This is my number, call me and I wish I could have should have brought out of know it's gonna get that deep. But I got this one from little dude from Mover. He said, Man, I know you served me with the real and I'm telling you I'm moving prepp and I'm

about the bullshit to real. I've been told my homes y'all can beat me up, take me off or whatever, because I know I'm good at tracking them for the focus on that. And man, your story have changed my life. And I got told if it's just one every time, then I'm that's what Let's go off my soul. That's real ship right there. Man. Well man, we appreciate you man coming on the show man like this is real ship. And we definitely have you back again. Man, I really

want to get you out here for a hundredth episode. Man, Man, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We said her name too much on my enemy and she gonna laugh, she gonna laugh. I'm doing I'm your pug up with that laugh like a month. Let's give it up for the homeboys. But well, real ship man, we need to get over. Yeah, the glass of real quick. We're gonna have a champagne to its real quick for me going to that. Well. That concludes another episode of

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