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Election Season Pt 2 U-God

Aug 24, 202029 minSeason 7Ep. 71
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In the second of a 2 part series about politics we check in Wu Tang Clan's U-God to hear his thoughts on this upcoming election. See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information.

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My bad brother. Man. You know it's like, you know how the government trying to stop us, you know how they just getting poping baby. I think they cut it off. We having this. It's it's real, man conversation man, because you who you said X exactly, Man, so you already know what it is. They ain't a mystery, baby, it's real. Yeah. We are in a very man like, um, really weird time right now. Man. I think right now with this upcoming election that we have, man, it's almost like everything

is kind of hanging in the balance. Man. I don't know if you were a brother that's really in politics anything like this, But I'm gonna ask you, man, what type of change do you think we need to make in this country? Man? Well, that's a hard question right because it's it's right now. See, America is a situation with the good was like right here and the band was down there. It was the good was outweighing the bad. Right now it seems like the badest starting to outweighed good.

And we're coming to a point right now where's things on a global scale or United States scale, is kind of weird right now. It's just weird because the United States, it is just the problem with it, not us. Is most problems. It's probably either employment, food, clothing, shelter, and it's racism ship. M those like the biggest things right now that are really weird and just crazy right now, you know what I mean. And I'm not I'm not I don't give a funk about racism. Man. I'm on

some man ship, you know. I mean, because if you're a man, we got our own problems just being the fucking man more or less, not even being a black man, just men, period. We got our own fucking problems, you know what I'm saying for as being that unappreciated and the ald type of the things that come with being

a man. It's very hard being a man. And you know, the U as far as I can say, as far as like the problems, it's it's a lot that I can't really getting one sentence, but I definitely would start on racism that hasn't stopped. That's a real big issue, you know, far as like our next person might perceive the next person to be and off the color the skin. I mean, I'm just a firm believer in character before you you know, you judge a person by skin, You

didn't call it. Yeah, exactly exactly, man. I think right now, man, we are under time too to where I noticed, man, with certain movements. Man, Like we have the Black Lives Matter movement going on right now, man, and it seems like there are a lot of different groups of texting them texting themselves to this Black Lives Matter movement because it's a popular movement at the time. Yeah, you get what I'm going. Uh. I don't know really what these

groups don't do for the hood though, Man. You know you see Black lives people like Black Lives Matter and other people, man dig generating. I think all of us a massive money brad right now? Man? Is that is that money involved in that? Is? People get money in Black lives man. So who's getting the chance? For sure? Millions of dollars in donations, you know what I'm saying. Millions And I was in donations And that's not me.

I'm not coming on the dragon those brothers, man. But it's like, at the end of the day, it has had a purpose, man, because I've noticed a lot of times man, with these type of movements, Man, um oftentimes the people that are left out, man, or the people that are in the urban areas. Yeah, definitely, because you know, the hood is always gonna be the last to get

whatever you got to get. The people with the least amount of knowledge of things always gonna be the ones getting beat up the most, you know, just you know, street situations and having knowledge of of what I mean by knowledge is having a skill or having some type of thing they make a living besides doing crime. I mean,

because that's basically what it is. But it boils down to, you know, you know, the hood, you're doing crime and survive or you're trying to learn something to to to give you for to put food on your table and make you turn a living, you know what I mean. So yeah, we're getting we're getting the last end of that definitely, especially to people they don't want to come out and learn nothing to to to survive, you know, besides the crime exactly. Man, And we have um I

think man like with systemic racism. All right, let me ask you a question. What is the meaning of systemic racism? You know what that is? What that means? I don't know what that means? You know what, man, I guess it means. Man. What I get from it, man, is this generation, generational racist, and it's been going on just for years and years on top of each other. Maybe maybe there's nothing proper definition, but that's what I gathered from it. Man. I think all of this stuff, man,

I think lots of times. Man, Like you said, are people theories from lack of knowledge? Right, Yes, I think a lot of times. Man. I think the welfareh shade and us we as a people sometimes we our own works enemies. Man. I think we need to start waiting for somebody. I think we need to start waiting for

people to coming and rescue us all the time. You know, that's what people thinking because because I know, ain't nobody coming to rescue with our people's and if bucks don't realize that ship now, this is a this is to see what's happening in our faces. Sometimes you can somebody can put something right in front of your face and you still can't see it, and it's like it's obvious

right now that no one's coming to help. And like I was saying before, you know, when we first started talking, is that if you ain't got a knowledge on how to make a living, because that's basically what it is. You know, when you're in the ghetto, in the hood. You you poor, and you have no ways of making a living besides well fair, relying on the government, whatever, whatever. So now it's time for you to get up and

understand that. You gotta get up and find a way to make a living and go out there and try to grab it, try to try to go for it. If you ain't going out there trying to go for it, don't get mad at the next man who's going out there grabbing and trying to go for it, whether whether he's hustling, banging, whatever he's doing. He got to go out there and get it, and he's trying to better himself the only way he know how. I mean. So, but that's not the only way to do it though.

Crime is not the only way to do it. It's other ways to do it. You know, you gotta go get that knowledge. You've gotta become electrician nerves, whatever the case may be, put full on your table to make you comfortable. That's what she was trying to do in the hood. And right, no one's gonna give it to you. No one's gonna give you a free ride of knowledge to go. You gotta go study, You gotta go get those books you gotta go pick up that ship. You

gotta move your ass. That's only way you're gonna get it. Yeah, Man, you made develop point right there. Man, Me and you pretty much on the same age. Man, we grew up in the same era. Yes, Um, I don't know if you remember. Back in high school. Man, back in the day, they had two different programs they had when brothers learned automotives, brothers had woodshot flash, they had different trades. See, I'm a firm believer in both of my sons. Yeah, both

of my sons went to college. Man, they want to you know, the university rather, but I don't think that direction maybe for everybody. I think they need to bring those programs back, man, where the brothers learn how to six stars, learn how to lay time, learn how to you know something, Yeah, something besides crime, because you know you're in the hood. You're gonna sell that coke, You're gonna pick up that dope, You're gonna pick up them guns.

You're gonna bang, you're gonna stick, you're gonna rob, you're gonna jukes, you're gonna scheme, you're gonna do everything. You're gonna do everything in that environment. Because when you pour, you have no fear. You got no fear when you pour. That's that's that's how it is when you're growing up in the hood, new niggas, little niggas, and you ain't

got nat scared ship. When you have a certain age and you know how to use four team from the ages from twelve all the way up twenty two, you're monster. You know what I'm saying, Well, you know, yeah, exactly because you know you know what the police are right that young black mandle ages um fourteen eighteen, they did the most dangerous animal on the plenty because they have nothing to lose. This is this is what I'm talking about. This is exactly what I'm talking about. And we are

magnifying that ship right now. And like I told before on my podcast, you know how they're talking, I'll talk to But now I'm not here for you to believe what I have been through and all that. I'm talking from experience, and I'm here to spark the brain for these little young dudes. That's my job. I ain't headed for your validation or b I know. I'm I'm a JA, I'm a triple old J. I'm going on quadripple, right now. But at the same time, I'm here to spark a

little younger. So they're gonna and like, yo, from this age group. From here, you're gonna be crazy and don't understand that you gotta move wisely. Besides using the anger, that frustration, that fitness has to be projected, this in another another way that you can you can utilize that energy on a positive note. You know what I'm saying. I might not be able to save three thousand, but if I saved two or three, I'm cool with that. That's what it's all about. Man, tell me this. Man.

When I saw you at the podcast, man trying to treat me out a little bit, I said, okay, here we go. Man, you got raw? Did that come about? Man? Well, you know, I thought I dropped the book and um and uh. And I've been doing the things with my clan for a moment and we've just been doing our thing, and I just said, I know, my my manager, my got got with some good people's my man, Kevin and

Jeff and Michelle and only they came in. We had we had some conversations, and I just said, you know what, it's time for me to start dropping the dropping these rules man, And I mean, and I come from a father center background where we we we grew up knowing knowledge, wisdom and understanding, was and culture, freedom and power, farming and equality and building, destroy and guard and boring. We

grew up. We grew up a different mentality. And it's needed right now, you know, I mean, because it came a time where that ship was pushed aside, you know, the powers that be pushed that to the side, because that was awakened and a lot of my people's and to the side, and they exploited more gang related situations and situations. But I'm here to replenish that and put that back in the air and put that backwards. Need to be there, because like I said, I can't get ten.

I take one, I take one strow it. I take one strowdent, one nice student that that that want to learn and that that want to be soak abnounced with like a sponge and want to be guided in the right direction to become great, not to be come some

savage and pursue the happiness what I'm saying. And like I said, when you pull or you don't even know your savage what I'm saying you because you you waited about eating and getting that food and putting that plate on your table and getting the things that you think is are important at the time. When you when you grow up, you can realize the things that you wanted fourteen and fifth, fourteen and eighteen, it's not really important

as when you hit twenty five and thirty. Man, you're gonna look at yourself later on, like what the fund was? I thinking? Man? Even even if you pop off NIM you're sitting in the camp, by the time you come out, you're gonna realize, like, what the fund was? I thinking back there exactly, man. And that's the thing man, youth Man, you know what I'm saying, um with with our youth today, Man, they're more worried about living in the moment and everything.

So it was important man for brothers like us to come and spread knowledge, man, instead of doing an opposite. You understand what I'm saying. Uh, you know you look at it. He started with the music. Man. If you remember in the eighties, man, everything was pro black man. You know, we had a really dope pro black positive movement going on. The man, everything was about like you know, you had groups like Publican and me. You have sisters

like Queen lat for mc light man. Now we have fum And I'm not knocking these younger brothers man, these younger brothers and sisters were doing what they do man, Like you said, I think it's our people parents for a lack of knowledge, man, And I think they just they just become a part of the problem almost because they don't know no better. So I think it is

up to instead of brothers like us. Dragon. You will never hear me dragging one of these younger cattes, one of these younger sisters, because I don't think they I think it's up to us to really educate them. Mh. Well, basically the bros, you know, the brods exploiting their sexuality. Man, they look good, they got fat ASTs, they got paid

for titties. Whatever they did, you know, you don't, you know whatever, Whatever whatever they did, they're doing it to exploit what they got and that's how they feeding their families. That's how they're doing they duck disl and I ain't mad at them what I'm saying, but I just hope that the music that they transplanted, that these little young girls don't think that that's the them, Like yo, don't think that you are spot school. Wha you ain't huh, You ain't got no maids. You gotta go get it.

You gotta go cook in that kitchen. I'm sorry to tell you you you you ain't got nobody to clean up your house. So you're gonna have to clean your house up, girl, you know what I'm saying. And plus they you know a lot of these women, they get these big titties and these assets. What they attract men. But what you're trying to do that for? Yeah, you want many jump on, jump on you, jump on your coach, you know, jump on your couch and your coach whatever

you wanna call it. And I'm saying so yeah, man, it's it's it's a never ending cycle. We're gonna fight, you know what I mean, because people misinterpret certain things like that's actually real life. No, it ain't real life, man, that's not real life, man. I mean a lot of people don't know. You know, if you notice, man, it was real pervasive to music. Man for a minute, man, where everybody was a drug dealer. I think when you've really been on the corners, man, you can't look at

that stiff and left and say this is reality. But what happens, man, people see you know, rad co hip hop culture. Man influences the world almost you know what I'm saying. Kids see something on the music video, Man, they think it's real, and they go out and try to attempt to do these things that they see and they find out the hard way that it's not real. Man. And that was one of the things, Man, I loved about your book. Man. It was just real gritty. It

was real gritty and raw. Because even though you were describing you know, new York City, man, not New York, you know New York, state of New York, the same thing was going on in Compton, the same thing in Detroit. Let's say one thing about that right now, This this is some some crazy ship. This This is how new that no matter where we go, that we're the same. Right when I was young, I was eighteen years old, you know, I went from New York with the California.

When I went to New York to California, dudes were in the same and do rags as niggas in New York was wearing it was wearing the same clothes. And I said to myself, you know, it just hit me like Yo, it's the same every goddamn where you go. Bro, it's the same fucking ship. It's like just because you know in Compton you don't have sky spaping projects. Y'all

got the jungle, y'all got certain spots. You know, it's the same thing, same fucking thing, man, It's like, and it's amazing the similarities that black men in those parts. You know, it's the same Bro's it's the same struggle, man. Yeah, we're going the same struggle. Man. I happen to be good friends, man, like with um Freeway, Rick ross Man the real one or was the real one, the real Rick ross And uh, you know cats like Ghosts Man, who was rolling with Hereio and all those guys back

in the day. You know, they kind of ran the same circles. Man. And if you look at this story, man, you know about the just whole thing with the contrast and everything like that. Man, you just get into the conspiously of everything. Man. Crack really knocked down our best and our brightness. Man. I had o gs in my

hoods met it was like Superman. So you don't see these these he rolling hood figures that we got in the hood, just rolling in the street down the chats and the Cadillac man with the pinky ring on apograph for the money. They was kind of living to get to American dream. And you see these cats, um slow ascension man down to where they don't have a car no more. Then they don't have jewelry no more. Next thing, you know, they're pretty much don't turn into a vagrant. Yeah,

it was crazy, man. So crack really destroyed our communities. Man, I don't think we go and I think those effects are long lasting. Bro, there's a lot of brothers who got sent to prison and seil in prison. Yeah. I talked about that ship all the fucking time. I said to myself, this nigga, Ronald Reagan and these motherfucker's man the dudes, and they don't shovel so much ship in the hood, man. And it was like a trap because

who's gonna turn down that brand at the time. So for sure, if you Paul, he was poor, he was broke, he wasn't gonna turn down that man. Nichol was just making millions of dollars used and they sucked motherfucker's up into that ship and next thing you know, the whole yo, man, we're looking the whole thing, man, and he and nobody was held accountable for that ship. Nobody. I think it's gone. They dad, whatever the case may be, and the errors over and it's like, no one's how commal for that

man outside of slavery. Bro, it's the second biggest crime against hu manity man because it's right there, Bro. They set it up man, because they used the drug proceeds from our neighborhoods Laian want to fund that war that they was fighting. It was funding the war, right, some ship. We ain't had nothing to do it. We didn't have nothing to do with. So you think about if they did that. Man. I've seen this personally. Man, I've seen brothers find boxes and glocks and Compton man Um railroads,

you know the railroads, the train stuck on the track door. Yeah, you know, some kids walking through the hood, man, they see to train direct doors open the stuff they actually going to spot. They see some boxes right, some machine guns being farm man. So I think it's definitely man, and I know you can appreciate this, Man. I believe it's definitely man of conspiracy. Man against the black superman

or dog. I'm gonna tell you something field ship, man, I used to think, because you know it's like now I can't be Yeah it is, brod yes, it is. It's set up like that. And that's why I was trying to tell you. That's why I'm here to tell him. Let them know, like all that ship you're going through in the hood, it's a set up. It's a set up for you to fail. Set up as you pick up that gun, you pick up those drugs to set up. Already got it lined up, already got your phones, they

already got your TV. It got a thing lined up ready right now. And you don't think you're getting away and none of that ship, because soon as you get to a certain level, they're coming to get you. Man, I'm gonna tell you, and let you rock on the low level, say you a little three and four olds, whatever, whatever, whatever, But soon you start getting the man's, then three and four or five man's, they're coming. Bro, I'm gonna tell

you something. If you ever go all these young cats need to go read somebody's to severy papers and see how deep the rappid hole goes when they kicked you. Man. It's almost like they document the whole time from when you started hustling. It's like they go back the whole history on Tuning eight team if you was doing this and that he was meeting with sex and sex and

second section. So they building this thing, like you said, they'll let the small people get away moving out, see and then you're moving his own here and they're not tripping off of you. Let me build that thing because you think about it's almost like they're letting you say,

they're letting you get your serve on. Man, you know what, they're gonna get it back with you being in the camp exactly the shoot to keep a dude in there, you gotta stand something right because if crazy, you do the math right, you made you had good five six year running the streets, you know, maybe had five or

six seven years running the streets. They're gonna sit you down for about good ten right, maybe maybe may sit you around for five depending on what the crime you commit whatever whatever, make but the average average time is ten. They're gonna get it down from you. It's a hundred and fifty a year for just you you even being in that cell for sure, so times that hundred times ten years. Do the math, so for sure, and you

know what what else too? You know, did you know that the Commons series gener rates billions of dollars the phone companies, the phone calls you can use that car to call. It's a billion dollar industry. Man. So not even not even talking about not even gonna get into the subject. But I'm gonna get into the subject. Not even talking about the money that's going on for the illegal camp, for the legal ship that's going on in the camp. That's another fucking crazy gold mine up in

there with money. Brown and the cigarettes is like triple uh we triple triple whatever. Whatever whatever vice you got in there is triple. It's just the fact that you can get whatever you want in prison, because it didn't just a broad broad girl, dudes, broad bringing in there. This stuff is coming in, man, through the actual people that's there. Meant um supervise these people. Yeah, you know

how this is bad. They got to see there's always gonna be some niggas that's above the law, you know, and they're gonna take advantage of the situation and do what they gotta do. You know. It's just how it is, bro. It is what it's gonna be, man. Yeah, I believe it's definitely, man, Um, I noticed you said he from the nation guys the nerves. Man, I don't know what you guys believe it because you know west a lot of brothers in the Islam, right, That's what I'm definitely

that's the foundation. That's the foundation of of Elijah Muhammed, you know what I mean. That's Ferrad and Fabra, Can Malcolm, you know all that's the foundation. So it's basically the same structure I mean with the Fibers Nation. Um, you know, Um the other guy that for God's damn name, I'm smoking to my damn weight. But anyway, we was taught. You know, they brought us the knowledge to the gangsters

and pimps and he just took a little more. So you just trim the fat off the lessons and this gave us what we needed just to wake us up. And um, you know, and that was that, man, I mean. And basically what happened was was was the was the nation of of of you know, the fiberst Nation came out of it. I mean, and um, you know it was built. Man. It's a good thing for some brothers, man, some some brothers now the utilize knowledge and soaked up and and so that's that's another art form too. So

there's different ways different art forms. Everybody has a talent. Some people can read some ship and actually put it into existence, and some people some people can't can read some ship, not really grasp it, I mean, and and but then they can look at something and take that and bring it into existence. I mean, everyone has a certain power that they have, certain superpower they have. But

my situation is I'm an absorber. I get some knowledge, I can apply it to whatever I learned, and I was able to like I was able to do that as a kid, I mean, and you know that's that's what happened. On part of his name is Clarence X. Clarence X Brons bring the UM, the five per cent nation, the degrees to the streets. I mean, he was the one that brow the and the one twenty lessons as we call, and those are the things that UM we

used as kids. You know, my crew back those days we was was five per centers and that was I was like, I can't but it was a gag wielding knowledge itself. Though it wasn't no gang, you know, into shootouts and on that we was more as knuckle checks and knobs. That's probably and that's a beautiful thing to brothers and getting to a little altercation of both and walk home lible to talk about it, you know, versus today man, where we had of like place cities like Chicago, Man,

with the murder rate is just off the chain. You know that ship over there that is like, that's a that's a hamburger. That's hamburger. Hell, that's like a meat factory for these for it for the government. They love it. Yeah, man, And I think that we definitely, man, We definitely Man. I think it's just and there's a lot of stuff man that we could go into, man, like really man, because I think this has all been pre playing man and preordained. Man. And then I think the worst is

yet to come for us, man. Unfortunately, I think it's gonna get well. Bro. You know, let tell you some real ship. Man, It's always gonna be strong. Survived. Doesn't necessarily mean the niggas with the guns that that's that's not strong, that's weak. Oh your boa comes from up here, bro, that's right. The wounds right, head right moves, being around the right people, getting the right now to your mind, eating the right foods, reading the rights, reading the right books,

looking at the right things on TV. I mean, whatever you introduce into your mind, not a ten times you're gonna mimic out in the open. So you know, you gotta take that in consideration. And it's like, that's that's what's going on. That's what's going on, man, that's the real. Yeah, man, it's really man, it's really man of pleasure man, And have you don't hear? Man? I wish we could have did this same a little bit. I'm gonna ever this part out right. Of course. I wish we could have

did this a little bit later on. But I know you're gonna press run out. You know what you do, you know what you're gonna do. But I want you to come, you know, you know, making you turn. Don't be afraid of making you turn, because we can do this again and hopefully, you know, we can get a better, better cut. We're gonna you know, I'm I'm always really doing interviews and talking and chopping it up. I mean,

because I love the back and forth commandery, camaraderie. That that that that's called building yeah, for real, and that's what I want to do. I didn't want to come on and talk to you about the other members of the WOULD team claims. That's what That's not what we're here to talk about. You know what I mean? Just being with you man this morning, man, because I after reading your book, it kind of change because I had

the traditional questions already. Man, Then I read the book and I was like, Man, this dude is a real nigger. You know what I'm saying, partner expression, but you know, the real brother you've been doing. I said, I wouldn't have a conversation with him, man, And so I definitely, man, want to do this again because you know, when it's seven o'clock in the morning, man, your brain is kind of just getting like I feel like I'm just geting warmed up, you know, but I know you gottah. That's right,

that's right, that's right. So what I'm saying, don't be afraid of call hit My people's up say yo, yeah, because I'm I'm very humble with my jake, you know what I'm saying. You know, getting to this, getting this far in my life and being the things I've been in survival and ain't being no swoll heading nothing. I'm just this just made me a little more humble and made me more closer to the flow. Man, I just take grounding. Man, you know what I'm saying, so when

you live with the great thing. It was about the day's technology. One thing about it. I don't trust this technology all the time. Man, But thank God for editing nowadays, so that you know what I'm saying with sound like a million dollars off your brother, Man, I appreciate you. Man. N Let's definitely do this again. Man, I want to do this again because I don't know we're three hours apart. I want you to get the full gangster Crowns experienced. Man.

You know we changed there, Man, were really just talking about you know what I'm saying, We really just just really just built. You know what I mean? You gotta keep building, baby, you gotta keep building to destroy evil and destroy that negative energy to talk about positive got built, man, So let me let me ask you this man. You got ro man, where can like we went your social media handles? Bron that you can go. You can go

to you Guard underscore Zilla, get me on Instagram. I mean then you got you got the woutang on Twitter. My Facebook is kind of ify right now. I gotta get back in effect because I got kicked off that ship and TikTok. I ain't really taking and talking right now because I'm that's not in the move to be acting like, you know, that type of buffoonery yet. I ain't gonna do that, but don't. I might post some

ship that may be funny whatever whatever. But other than that is you God underscore zilla on Instagram, and you gotta utang on Twitter, and I think that you gotta utang again on on Facebook. Yeah that's about it, bro. Man. Sure, man, I appreciate you. Man, you have a blessed state. Man, and must continuous sess man. I mean that. Man, I'm I'm gonna circle back on you. Man. You know what I'm saying. I feel like I'm just getting one of them something over. Earlier, I was like, man, it's early,

but I had to do this though. Man. Yeah, they called me Early Hawkins anyway, Baby, I'm always never only man. Yes, sir, I'm on your brother man. You and you're the rest of your sea out there. Oh your head up. Remember like I said, by stay away back passing to the babies. Man, they don't want to knowledge, just get one and one It that's all. Get one. That's all we need. Broe one, that's all we need, all right, bro. Appreciation the man, How good you? Next guy,

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