Drugs N Hip Hop

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another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. And I'm with my Dog and we got our special guests and our special guest hosts taking m C Gates place while eight is out there doing this thistle out there making his money. Big Court from the Holding Court Podcast, What's Happening court. What's going on? Roster lou Fella, Salute the Big Jason lout the Big Still thank you for having me to m C. A salute to O G. M C eight as well for show for show for show. You know,

we were having some discussions. You know, we always talk on our own time about everything, and there seems to be a problem with drug uses, a pervasive problem with drug using. The hip hop coach gets an urban coaching period. Um, I'm a product of the seven. You know. It's born in the seventies, born in seventy um, raised in the eighties. And I remember there was a time to where you didn't want to be labeled as a thing. That was the most embarrassing thing ever. You didn't want to be

called no smoker. You didn't want to have nothing to do with no drugs. You remember. At one time that was a big part of the thing. Even the use it. They would tell you like crackers wack, we're not working with that. You know, you don't want to be no thing. You're smoker. That was the worst thing you can call the person. But now it's just invaded the whole cooture. You've got these guys. They sound like they fall to

sleep on their tracks. Man, they do. You know, it's opiates epidemic in this country, you know, as strong opiate epidemic. You know, it's a heroin the epidemic. And um, I know in the New Orleans, for example, heroin has been the main drug since as far back as I can remember. Everybody and everybody in New Orleans was on that. Girl. I think they've been that with that for a long time. And then you had used them with the lean movement, all of us connected back to opious. Yeah, you know that.

The strange thing too, is still like you said, I'm born in the seventies, raised in the eighties. Um, you know our parents. You know, at least my mom and her her reference of drug to stay away from was heron you know what I'm saying, from the Vietna, from Vietnam, from the city these in the fifties and ships like that. So cocaine was a uh, you know, there was a

party drug. There's a rich people drug. So you could see how people my mother's age and even Big J you know, their generation got broadsided by crack because they didn't know what that was. They didn't know what it was gonna be you know what I'm saying. Um, So that's why I could never understand why, you know, my generation or even younger would even touch some of these hard drugs, you know, because we have reference points of

what it is, cocaine and cracking all of that. And I remember, um, you know, I won't say no names, but you know, we all know street people. But I remember a couple of my street cats that I that I that I know, and I would ask them, I would, I would say, bro, how y'all still making money? Like I ain't seen a crackhead since the nineties, really, you

know what I'm saying. And and and the nigga told me, he said, ship, he said, these motherfucker's ridding around on these twenty sixes and and and and you know what I mean like them? Them is them? Is the customers right there. And I was blown away when he said. I was like, damn for really, Like, you know, so I don't know what it's uh, you know, I don't know, bro, you know, I don't know it is the level of mental illness. I think we're not talking about the mental

illness part of it as well. And and of course we know what the systemic part of it is too as well, you know what I mean. I think we're still uh you know, dealing with the the ripple effects of crack cocaine as well, because you know that ship had tentacles. I mean, you got you know, families, you know that we're broken mandatory minimums. You got niggas just coming home, you know what I mean, from from them Drake Coney and sentences and ships or fragmented the family.

So it's so many, it's layers. There's so many layers to the issues that we see now. And like you said, it's cool to be a thing. I remember, Uh one of my little nephews partners, he's talking about he about to go bust ahead, you know what I mean. And I'm thinking to myself, like ship they give you. You're the junkie, like he on everything. He don't pe it was he gonna lean he up, he's down, he's crazy, depressed, he's happy like they on so much ship, bro, And

that's just the culture. Unfortunately, they celebrate that ship. Watching my parents, their friends. They was on the Molly's and all that ship. The marijuana, uh, the PCP, you know, that's that was the drug back then, you know what I'm saying. In the seventies, every ten years, every year people find different ship, different ways to get high, and all it did is elevating because marijuana didn't work no more.

The mollys didn't work no more. Now you got uh the lean, Now you got the uh what's the them new pills? I took some of the more fockers before the who there's those ecstasy? Yeah, Exstacy, I popped. I popped like Poe Exstacy sitting down on my knees is white levies gambling And why I'm shooting one of my little honeys because I was so fucked up. And but our kids today, the regular ship, the ship that they was on back then, they don't do it no more. You know what I'm saying, I don't get you high

no more. So people are looking for what's gonna anticipate these situations opposed to mellow them out or whatever, because just like you said, Noring, they're doing different drugs. If they're doing lean and drinking alcohol right behind it and smoking weeds, so they're doing four different types of drugs only one time just to get that that high. And the tolerance level is so whack these days. They can do it all day, man, they can. They can smoke weed.

I was straight, just keep umping weeds and and some of them don't even be hind. Yeah, it just gotten worser, that's all it is. They don't. And the weed these days is crazy, you know what I mean when you're talking about the th C in it and just you know how, I'm like, damn, how how are you trying to beat? You know? Well, you know the thing it was core back in our days. I think, um, if you smoke some good old a good grade of reef,

you know, like they have. Monkey Paul had different, you know strings he was running maybe about thirty thirty five percent t C. Right, you know, you're smoking joint. You get the giggles, you get the monks. But that's what I'm saying. That was some good weed back then. Now the arabage is kind of like fifty four. I've seen fifty six, I've seen sixty, and it's like, how high

do you want to be in the thing? It was these What's happening now is these kids are smoking so much weed that it's like it's becoming a thing to where they gotta smoke more than you gotta. They gotta damn the smoking ounce just to get that same mind instead of to where it used to be a weekend thing. You may smoke Friday and Saturday, but you know, Sunday through Thursday, whatever, Sunday, you go to church with him and you're business the rest of the week. And it

was just a weekend thing. Now it's a daily thing. You got people smoking joints back to back to back to back to back, and it's like they lose the backs of it and it's not so much weed. And I'm worried about this. This opiates. Man, there's these opiates man, um, you know, opious. They can do a number of things. James talked about these guys mixing that lean with the you know, the promethezine with the alcohol you can leave to your loans, collapsing um. You know, my boy from

second to None he lost his brother like that. Man, he just you know, one day could lapse. Man, he couldn't breathe and he didn't make it to the hospital. He died passed away from it. Yeah, I mean, let's explore, like what's the root of that, you know what I'm saying, Like like what's the root of it? And and and then not only the root of it, the influence. You know, the rappers, they they influenced that. The music sets the training for the drug of the day, you know what

I'm saying. When when Chronic came out, everybody was trying to get that good weed. It was about trying to get the chronic, you know what I mean. And then you know, I remember doing the late nineties, early two thousand's, of course with the explosion of you know up north, the Northern Cali, you know, HiFi movement. It was all about them thistles. It was all about that ecstasy. And then then the Moley and all of that. And then of course you had Houston, you know with the screwed

up ship, you know, with the lean. They've they've been doing the lean forever, you know what I'm saying with the drink. But I'm gonna tell you something, No, Court, it just wasn't in Texas they popularized it, right they the mainstream. But I know Philly, Ohio, and I'm pretty sure Beckham, James every it was on that on that leaning real heavy too. That Now that ain't the West Coast thing. I never heard of it out on the

West coast, just really located, just really in Houston. To be very honest with you, but to be honest with you, like I'm gonna be real court. I had homeboys in Philly, my homeboys in Pittsburgh, had homeboys in Ohio. It was a thing. Because you have to remember, and I do think that some of this stuff is kind of just it's two coincident in it because I remember I had asked me real bad coming up right, And remember my mom would take me to the hospital in at one time.

You know, if I had a code was congested, they would give her a big two leader for to permit the zaine. Mm hmm, it will be a two leader. And I remember she give me a teaspoon. Now he just go to sleep and will knock me right out. But the whole leader stayed up there. It might still be sitting up in their medicine cabinet. It was there. You know, I ain't gonna lie bro during COVID, I called COVID. I had COVID. You know about two years ago. I had a super bad cough and and the doctor

prescribed me that that that ship right. I can see the appeal of it because I slept good, my nigga, I ain't gonna lie. I slept good as ship right, but it robbed me of my day. I can't see how niggas functioning on it because I didn't want to do ship like. I was actually like like a heroin at it like I was doze and had that dophine. Now I'll be watching TV and next thing I know, I'm not off and ship like. I don't see how

they how they functioned on it, you know. And then I don't think they realized really the effects of it, like you said with the kidneys and even you can always tell when these little niggas is on this because you can't use the bathroom, they get the gut. That was the thing with man, and you know literally that means you full of ship because you can't. You can't, you can't move your boss, you can't overs if you're

trying to. It's been people, man. I've heard of people. Man, the famous people have to go get the surgery because they they literally couldn't shipp The gotta go in there and kind of just buy, yeah, it's open to get get rid of all the feces and stuff, because you know, ahead can tell it. You can go like that, Yeah, for sure, for sure. But I mean, let's explore, man, what you think the the like I said, the root of this. Why why you want to get so high?

Why are they so you know, fascinated with with the with with the drug culture. Well, we got two different dynamics going on court. The first one is life imitating art. You know, people see their favorite artists doing stuff in the biggest major thing about his undiagnosed depression, self medication. A lot of people are depressed, a lot of people having diagnosed depressed, a lot of people don't believe in depression. A lot of people don't believe. And you want to

go get therapy and things like that. They that's I suffered from depression off and known probably for most of my life, which I believe was hereditary, probably up until you know, more recent years. But yeah, that'shi, it real, you know what I mean. You just gotta do your work and understand what your triggers are and like you said, talk to somebody. That ship is ready. There's depression. We live in the generation man to where people look at um,

you know, expressing your feelings. Some people, especially in our community, They look at expressing your feelings as being soft. So a lot of people self medicate. They smoke weed, they drink alcohol. Um. You know, you think if you think about the pattern in the hood all day, you know, we don't see their man. The morning. They gonna get them a couple of grams. They stopped the spense for get them a couple of grams. They go to store and get them a til pact. They sit around and

drink smoke, will drink smoke. Then they may go up with their homeboys. Their homeboys got a couple of pills. Next thing you know, they're popping the motherfucker's. And they're not just taking these pills. They're not just taking drinking them with a glass of water. No, all these motherfucker's showing these pills, they courting them because each peel, like, let's say you get a Tim Millergraham oxycotton, right, that Tim Millergraham oxycotton is built to release over six hours.

It's not built to go on your bloodstream all thet once. So when you get the showing them motherfucker's and snorting them, you're taking all of that at once, man, And what it doesn't overloads your senses almost in where you don't know what the fun is want. Like you said, you're nodding off and you don't give a funk about nothing. That's why you have so many instances of motherfucker's just

popping the motherfucker just for no reason. Pretty much. You know, motherucker's say something power because you are desensitized to what's going on around you. And so we have a lot of people suffering from the addiction and not pray healing and help for anybody stuck on heroin. I've had heroin addicts in my family. It's almost impossible. I've seen people get off crack. I've seen people get off cocaine. I've seen people start I've seen people put weed down easy, right.

But that heroin, it's all It's a strong monkey on your back. Man. It's almost impossible to leave because by the time they started getting sick. Man, I had a cousin. It was on that ship, right and they was going through what man, I'm talking about, defecating on themselves, man, advocating on themselves. The sweats. It's almost like they begged you for that stuff. I had a cousin, Man, they literally tied her up when they got her queen, like literally her daddy got on the room, tied her up,

and left friend there. He would come in their feather suit and he did this for about six months, and eventually she started getting normal. And but what are he was doing? He would give her a little doses a ship, right, like little doses are like um, like what was that ship? He would give her on like taling all threes, like lower dose medicine because you know, you could die on

that ship. M you get down on that ship. So he would cut like a town and all three up the four's and feed her little pieces of it and ship like that, so she would get the little thing, you know, so she could relax a little bit. But then eventually he just like cut her off cold turkey and she got clean. Man, But it took her. Once he got her like that, then he put her in the rehab because he did the rehab ship before, and

he was like, funk this ship. I'm not going to go spend another fifteen thousand dollars for your ass to come out and be cool. And then they want to replace that ship with some other medicine. Because now I was a little bit better because they have medicine like my cousin back then, she's on the medicine. Now she takes a peel I think once a day. She takes a peal once a day, and she's been clean, works

a job. You wouldn't You wouldn't know her. I saw when I was back at the crib and it was kind of like, hey, there, you finally back to us. I'm so proud of you. She's able to hold a job now, She's probably had to take that medicine for the rest of her life. But Dog, it's better than the alternative. But it makes me think sometimes it's like, okay, you were place one drug with another. Somebody's still getting paid.

How does this ship make it to the streets, bro, Because we ain't got no you know, they got pelle princes in the creative stuff like that, But I don't think no chemists in the hood like that that's able to figure off the pharmacology of Opius. You feel what I'm saying, the manufacturing gills that ship is coming from somewhere, dog, and it's coming from the inside. And I'm gonna tell you another thing too, bro, that fat and all it's really taking motherfucker's out. I lost one of my little lost,

one of my cousin lost his son. You know, the rest in peace, little DJ. But he wasn't on ship. Dog. He just got him a job though. He just got a job of the city. You know how to her his court, we both met West boys. You get a job with the city, you're making that forty fifty run up. You can run a four bedroom house for eight hundred dollars a month, and that motherfucker you're doing good, you know. So his back was hurt, real bad. He went over one of his home plays house and said, hey, my

back is killing me. Oh dog, got some for that. He took that dog, laid on with his little baby on his cheff dog. He just never woke up because it was fitting on. I just got our knee surgery dog. And when I was in knee surgery, it was funny because you wake up all you remember, you don't remember nothing, You just remember just just kind of just passing out right, and you wake up and your knee in the first

worst pain in the world. And they got this ice thing on your knee is properly like, oh, ship, what the fund is going on? So I hear the nurse one C C f cc affetting all you know, and she ship that thing. Once she hit that thing dog whatever it was, she didn't shake it into that thing. I swear I felt the warmthons come up with my

body almost instantly. Nat wasn't hurt, and she told me, she said, yeah, you're feeling good now, but tomorrow there's some time to burl that knat pain heels gonna come back. That's why they tell you to get your pain medication and ship before you even go home, so that ship is there. And she was just think. I was in the middle of doing my therapy. Look shine, he's like he been on my leg. All of a sudden that

ain't came back. And I was like, oh, Ship, you've been in the two hard you've been in the to her, she said, did you take your pain medicine? No? They kept asking me, Mrs Still, why are you not taking the pain mess And I'm looking at these white folks like why are you not taking your main pain medicine. I'm like, you're not turning me into a JUNKI and this fucking if I don't have to take him my taking. But then what I realized was. In order for me to do my therapy right, I had to take a

mess subscribe. And that's what I did. I took a mess subscribe. I took it nothing like. I don't have no pain now. I don't funk with the motherfucker's the motherfucker's in the toilet because I'm a responsible parent. Me no, when I got teenagers in the house, I'm not one of them. Parents like my Thank God, my kids don't do no dope. But teenagers like the experiment. They're curious. They may go in that medical cabinessty ship Pomp's got some mons cottle. I'm gonna trap one of these motherfucker.

It might be the one ship to send them over the eggs dog. I ain't going out like that. But I think we got a lot of mental illness in our community, bro. We have its in our community, and it's um and it's to the point, bro, to where we don't we don't seek treatment because we want to keep getting out using. When people getting clean, it's because they want to. I had a brother that did crack.

He would tell you. I had a brother that did cracked for him five years straight, and he told me, said, man, I smoked thirty five hundred dollars worth ship every day, and he made his way to go get that money. He figured out one day he tried to do everything. My mom's would try to let him in the house. Man. You know, she come back on TV, gone rings going, all kinds of ship and he'd be sitting up for that motherfucker, like and come back in any of them,

or what's going on, Mama, billy? Where's my stuff at? Like, where's all my stuff? I don't know. Somebody must have broken the crib and eventually, you know, any time a mother gets tired of you and kicked her son off the crib, they gotta be serious, though, Yeah, we gotta worship. That's like a quarterbreak almost, you know that drum like that's like that's like but yeah, but but I think to your point, man, like when you think about you know,

a lot of this ship is systemic too. You know, it's like they give us the tools to to to destroy ourselves. You know what I'm saying, Because you know it's so many, it's so many layers to it. You know, we're already dealing with depression, were already dealing with you know, uh, mental illness, we're dealing with health issues, we're dealing with you know, hopelessness. That that adds to it too, because you know there's so many struggles and like that, think

about it. It's still liquor stores. Like you go to the hood, you know, Like I live in the valley, you know what I'm saying. So when I'm in Calabasas, I don't see liquor stores like that. Like I literally kind of go look for one, you know what I'm saying. But you you go to l a man, the motherfucker's is all over. It's like you can find anything you want, but but you can't find but it's hard to like James said, you know, but you can't get health insurance.

You know, you can't find you know, a mentor, you can't get into college. You can get into jail easier than you can get into college, you know what i mean. Like there's not there's not useful resources around you, you know what I mean. But you can get anything you want, any drug you want, fitting all oxy thistles, wet, whatever you want. It's out there for you to indulge in.

So a lot of that ship is the stomach bro A lot of a lot of ships start off recreation on a lot of people get hired just because they're hanging out. You know, I never did marijuana. I've never seen the reason to do that. Um, when when the promos came out, everybody homies passing joints. You know what I'm saying, doing promos happen to motherfucker's that was hanging around only did it because the homies was doing it.

Everybody was not junkies. But you became a junkie after when you're the only motherfucker's still doing great cocaine, you're a junkie. You know what I'm saying. Harolin dog food was totally different because it fed and and and attacks you from the inside, right, Not no mind ship that cocaine was totally different. Motherfucker's was robbing and stealing and doing all other kinds of ship for different trugs. But the kids of the day didn't have to get down

like in in my days. You know what I'm saying. They're doing ship just because the next person is doing it. Like you said, they're listening to uh Little Wayne rapping about lane or or what you call them talking about percocets. So the mind tells them, Man, I'm gonna go try that ship out, So we'll start off just a taste tester.

When they start liking it, everybody in the hood wants to hang out and be feeling good, especially when they go to park these yet the nightclubs, everybody already ready they pop the theles, they're getting that motherfucker what they're doing. They're drinking their ass off. It intensified. They hide, so they started getting used to it. It becomes a pattern. I gotta this is how I gotta do it. So you know, if if I walked around the who to

say everybody is doing drug got a mental problem? I'd be crazy and the motherfucker No, we're just doing ship just because everybody else is doing it now, and I'm doing it because it makes me feel good. Yeah, it's some people in the hood that that's going through a whole bunch of ship and doing drugs is a way of forgetting you know what I'm saying, like alcohol, you're

the worstest motherfucking drug out there. Theory because m hm, when I when I put myself in situations and did certain things, I got drunk so I didn't have to think about it. But guess what, when you wake up that next day, you're gonna wake up with a hangover, but you still gonna remember the ship you did and I funked up you was, you know what I'm saying. So alcohol was one of the worstest motherfucking things out there. But these kids they're doing it. All these niggas out

here today don't give a fuck. So it's just a word of mouth. Let's try this, and everybody is uh experimenting with whatever it's new today. Yeah, that's that's crazy because you know, I never subscribed to that. And I know exactly what you mean, James, because you know, growing up, you know, all my friends drank smoke weed. You know, that was what it was back then. Uh in case you know wet you know that was the wed daddy,

the button nket that was a thing in the nineties. Um. But you know, I think probably because I grew up in a household with function and alcoholics, you know, and I kind of grew up around drugs like you know, I grew up in the eighties, so you know, I remember finding you know, when my mother and her friends and my stepfather would be partying. You know what I'm on the weekend. I remember finding them trades up under the couch with the residue. You know what I'm saying.

I used to be drawn in the residute. I didn't know what it was, you know what I'm saying. And so but you know, I remember my people being inebriated, and I don't know that just that ship just turned me off, bro Like, I never wanted to be around it. I never did it. My friends did it, but you know, I never followed, you know what I'm saying. Like, and and it could be just because I've seen it in

my household, you know. But you're right though, a lot of people fall victim to just being followers and and just trying to you know, fit in, you know what I mean, And they funk around and try something, and it takes some years to untry it, you know what I mean exactly. And and the thing it was, Court I went through my period, man, because being a product of Midwest, some stuff was just then out of bordom.

You're out of sheer boredom. You know. The thing is, because you know, being in the Midwest and the small towns, you don't already vote on everything that's walking around there already and you don't know and everything, and then the thing it was somebody got a kick back, they got liquor, they got beer, over the wind up getting front. I went through a period that went to one summer dog where I blacked out twice, and that's when I realized

I didn't. That's when I kind of slowed down, but I kept going kind of into my arm early twenties, and then I remember my little boy came to me one day and said, I want to drink beer too, And I just looked at the way he looked at me. I said, damn, did my son see me as a drunk motherfucker woving around here? And my wife would kind of making choice. It's easy to go be that for this, and I just left the ship alone. I just stopped. I didn't go to know where the draws or nothing.

I just left alone. That was after because after year, it was still early for you, like like me, before school. Fuck school. We stopped that, just stove and got a court of all English, and we drunk beer all the way to school. Coming from school, when the sun going down, we switched from liquor to bumpy face. Were drank and by Jen we we were drinking. That was my way of coping with everything that was going on the day. So when nighttime hit down, I'm already ready half for

my motherfucking Shenanigans. Was because I was already drunk, feeling good, and ready to go fuck it, you see what I'm saying. But I was able to cope with with what was going on around me for that day. I just didn't do the weed. Everybody else was drinking with me from from from morning tonight on there to to hard liquor.

They smoked weed. I didn't. And then say the early part of the eighties that that premo, Yeah, we had the Vermont Drive in ten cars and everybody is going back and forth back and forth to East Car smoking premos and drinking. But when we had that motherfucking fighting there, everybody looked like they was paranoid to know what the fun to do. And I've seen the best of the best loss even lost, Like what the funk am I doing? Didn't know what to do? So man, that promo should

smell so terrible. Man, my aunt, you know my first introduction in the promo um in the eighties. You know, my my aunt used to smoke weed. I used to like the smell of weed when I was a kid, you know, I always loved the smell of it. And my aunt would be smoking and I used to be like, Damn, her weed smell funny, Like that was stronger ship. I used to be like, why her ship smell like that?

You know it was. It wasn't until you know, I got a little bit older where it was like damn, aunt was on their mold and she was that with that when before she started doing most like my uncle's they were they were doing the blow, they were sniffing the ship. Yeah, and and once that didn't funk with him no more, they went to the next thing. Now they're basing now basically you know, now they're doing different ships.

It's just it intensified once you get it in your system and you just want more and you want a better effect. You want to you want to get you want to be fucked up. So what they're doing, man, is the why? Man, I just keep going. But like James me, knowing your story, I totally understand. You know again, you know why you would be you know, indulge in having to uh you know, endure and go through all the ship you was dealing with you know what I'm saying.

But but then you know what for for people that's dealing with that, like what's the what's the alternative? What? What are the alternatives? You know, I know you didn't really have them in that day, James, or at least you didn't know that you had them. But nowadays with the Internet and in so much information at our disposal, with our fingertips, like what what is the alternative? Even though even though I did a lot of alcohol, I didn't choose to do marijuana smoke weed like they did

on the daily. Um, you know, a lot of cats that hung with us didn't do either one. But in due time they're gonna be like everybody funked up looking like they're having a good time. Now they want to try it. It's just you know, we you hang with people now they want to do the ship that they see in and that's all they did. Man, if you stick to your guns, ain't doing drugs. Likely forward one of the homies. He was one of the biggest cats in the neighborhood. Never went to prison. Damn, Why is

this nigga so swollen? And they never met to prison because he was a healthy. Motherfucker. He didn't do alcohol, he didn't do we he didn't put that ship in his body. M see what I'm saying. So it's the choices that we made at that time doing it. Just like the cast of the day, it's the choices that they're making the people that they're hanging around bad influence.

So we don't have to. Yeah, but you see everybody else doing something, so it's like fuck it, and everybody is trying to cope and deal with something in their life. The next person might be telling them, man, this is what I do because I told them, mother nig I get. I don't give a funk who I shoot. I'm cool. Let me say something real quick to me. A lot of this stuff is systemic because if you go back, you can go back to the nineteen thirties. In the

black community. It seems like every decade we get a tech with a new drug. In the sixties it was heroin. I remember, you know, even two sixties and seventies it was heroin. I would go into the back. I remember living this apartment building when I was eight years old, right, and I would go to the back and it would be needles all over the place, and I remember I was outside with my shoes off, planning. I remember my

mama snapped me up and beat my ass. I told you don't walk off this house without no shoes on. And I didn't understand. I was a little hid on why she was so mad, mad mad, But she understood. I stepped on one of them needles. I could work around the overdose. You know, this was the seventies, you know who those I believe the ades was around even back then, but they didn't know what it was, you know, but anything could have happened, right, and so we had

we went from heroin, we want to crack. Then they came back with the you know, with the peels because if you remember in the eighties they went through a rash. You know, this OPIOU epidemic is nothing new because at one time they had hospitals pain management so to speak, hospitals that opened up in and it was always in the hood to where pretty much you going that motherfucker, they gonna write you a prescription for whatever you want

to get. I mean they was taking quay, lose and ship back then, you know, yeah, you know, and here we go again. Did you get the lean and we've lost so many. Then it's then it's just really pervasive in the music, Like, um, I'm a three six Mafia fan. They all no qualms, are telling you we snore, we snore, we're sniffering, we're drinking, we're pouring up in his motherfucker. Then in U g K what we're two of the first you know acts that that made it known that

about snorting. You know they sport the cocaine. Because I'm gonna tell you this my pops too. You know, my pop is the sixties nigga when they wore the suits and they had the pinky rings with the little they got a cram and their pinky ring and ship and they you know what I mean, doing that. My pop said, he did that. Never once got a dig He said, Man, I did that ship the party with the party. He said,

I don't know what they put in this ship. Now I ain't working with him, but that's just what they did. That was like some baller ship. When you know when you that was a baller ship. Nigga happens ringing on and he got him a Graham up and that motherfucker and he just floating doing his thing. That was the same. Excuse me, that was the same way when cocaine came out. When cocaine came out, everybody was punching the workers. Everybody can do a learner to and go to work and

be productive. Then when when they come with this other ship and now they dope things and everybody stretching. Yeah, you had every every hood had that guy to get the new ship. And he always had a smoker, somebody that smoked weed to test that ship. Yea, And they went off a word of out from that one motherfucker that tested and was bent over in the corner somewhere. Now everybody want that drunk because you get fucked up.

That's what they're looking for. When they get high. They're gonna spend their money so they can get sucked up. And so think about go ahead, I'm sorry, James, go ahead. No, I was just gonna say, and think about how how cold it is today, bro. Nowadays with this fitting all ship. Whoever got the ship that mother the hot pack the niggas are dying from. They want that ship. That's some cold ship. Whoever got the hot pack of catching bodies, that's the ship that they want, you know what I mean.

And the fitting all is just such a new you know, Pariah, It's such a new threat because it's so the instability of it, you know what I mean, the ship all over the place, Yeah, like just a little grain because the ship be dope so fucked up, you know. And even these pills with these faith, these rock seas and these fake as ox seas and all of that ship they should be having fitting all and ship all in it.

And you know that's how motherfucker's be o dn like like you said, like you said, with culture though, because think about the code that black you know what he said. I knew the purpose fake, but I ate it anyway, you know what I'm saying. You know, and you don't know what the fucking that bitch to be rap boys, you don't know what it is. And you know what, I'm gonna tell you something. I was told to one of my own boys the other day and he was told about his nineteen year old like the smoke weed

and ship like that. Right, he was like, I'm a whoop his ass. I said, Bro, I'm gonna tell you something. You're almost better off because that niggas go smoke weed if you want twenty way or now, you're almost better off going to get dispensing. Just get this ship for him and say, nig, don't do that ship and this I was here, you go, because I'm gonna tell you

they're gonna try it anyway. Bro. Yeah, we can sit up here, his parents, We can sit up here as parents and look at our kids through rose colored lenses just like we went off the right ship. Yeah, big experiment. You just up on my kids and know what the time and he was, man, just behind nobody. Don't be passed, no joints with no motherfucker because give some to the here you walking around this motherfucker, you'll be stuck in the twelfth dimension. I know. I know. People just smoke

ship that never came back from it. Mind in the right sense, you know. And and I think that's important to like what you the point that you're making. Man, we have to be one hunted with our kids. You know, the same thing with my kids. You know, my kids, especially my oldest daughter. You know, I had my first shot when I was sixteen, and you know I laced her. I raised her like almost like an oldest son. You know what I'm saying. And you know I told her

about drugs and weed. I mean, truth be told. You know, WE was my hustle back then, so I even, you know, to an extent, exposed her to that side of it of getting money, you know. I mean, you know, there's no handbook for parenting, you know what I mean, that's what happens. But um, you know, and I always told her, man, let the things have to have it, you know. Now fast forward. You know, my daughter thirty years old, she's

a grown woman. I respect her. She smokes weed. That's her choice, you know, Um, and I don't judge her about it. You know what I'm saying. Uh, you know, she can't smoke in our house when she's over. She asked her to step out, smoke outside, be respectful. But you know, I think that you know, and you know, back in the day, they used to say WE was

a gateway drug. Um. I don't know that to be true, but I believe for some people it can be with addictive personalities and people like James said that could be dealing with you know, some type of self medication situation. And they wanted to hire. You know, we was the beginning. How can I get hired? How can I get hired? You know what I'm saying, so um, you know, but but like I keep saying, you know, what is the

what is the alternative? You know? You know it's that are listening, Like what could be the you know instead of trying to self medicate and and and get high and try to run away from your problem? Was like, what do they do? You know? Do they get help? What are they running from? Do they go talk to somebody? Do you know what? What? What advice will we get them? You know what I'm saying? You know what I think

you have to be very open and honest with your children. Again, I know plenty of pearans to put the rose colored lands on. And I'm gonna tell you the way society use everybody and knew what your kids are doing, but you you'll be sitting up there be the only dumbass sitting in La la land and not knowing what's going on. You have to give your kids to reel about stuff and tell them maybe look, if you try that, you

may die. Because my biggest thing if I was always scared of death because when I was younger, I was allowed the opportunity to experiment. The big thing in Ohio was what all the white homies would do. They would be on that black tar heroin. They would had that black tar heir when it was cheap, like everybody had that ship and they would be in their smoking that ship. They tried to get me to try that ship one day, but I remember talking to my pops about that anything

they had h and I wasn't working with it. Well, I was like, I'm cool on that. I don't want none of that ship because I see how this nig over in the corner doing this, he nodding off and ship. I didn't want to funk with it. So my thing was this. I actually tried weed when I was younger and didn't funk with it. I just I didn't. It wasn't for me. My pops is my pop smoke weed back then and still is a regular weed smoker. And that motherfucker was an account one of the sharpest do was.

I know, I've never known him to do the other ship. He told me said, yeah, in the sixties, I did this and that. But my pops ain't never been no fiend as nigga. But he he got his little um, his little cigar box the crib with his little weed and he brought them up with joint. He's sitting if smoked, that motherfucker with his woman and watch TV and going

about his business right and pop on upstairs. You know. So, I think the biggest thing quote we have to do is realized, man, that we are under attack, and the only way we go continue standing under the attack if we don't start keeping the reel with ourselves and start saying, man, look, we gotta start making different choices. We gotta start looking at alternatives. U. We have to start expressing our feelings because black men have a tendency the car departmentalized ship.

But we have ship in our mind and we just keep it in there and anything. It's like anything else. If we feel the water balloon up to full water, what's gonna happen. This will eventually explode. That's what happened. That's when people have nervous breakdowns. That's when you see the little rampages that you see. That's why you see so much real rage. Now the people actually don't got a problem with each other, but motherfucker, the stress level

is so high. It's just that person in that car that might have cut you off, that may not be thinking about you. He laid for work, so he's trying to get the work. He go around you and cut you off. You're mad. Now you chased this motherfucker down up the road and you're open his ask when he get off the car, you might get shot and lose your life all because you didn't have nobody to talk to. You didn't want to express your feelings. You know what I mean, Because you think about it, life can be

stressful in the motherfucker. You've got people especially and what were yet right now, You've got people whose financial who financially have not recovered since COVID. Because I'm gonna tell you one thing, had that king about COVID and all that stimulus money. You had some people that was making more money than they ever made. You know, you had a guy that worked at McDonald's. He getting unemployment. Now now he's getting eight hundred of thousand dollars a week.

To him, that's the world. Now, he don't want to go back to that job. But mcdownalds or that job. But mcdownalds ain't dead for him no more. And he's depressed. When you can't take care of your family and provide a lot, a lot, he said, I remember the darkest period I had, man and I suffered from depression, and I've been very open about it. I was suffered from depression. Before the darkest period I've ever had, I was working for a publishing company. I was making a quarter million

dollars a year. I was doing my thing. I had a black card or whatever I wanted to go get it if I would, and bought a ten thousand dollars suit. They won. Question. We was making a lot of money back then. Um, I was getting a lot of money from other little stuff. You know, I'm managing glasses and glasses and cracking at that time, so I'm getting money from everywhere. I'm getting money and nothing lumps, you know what I mean. I got good money. I remember when

I lost that job. I lost my identity almost and I said after that, it was hard for me to go back because I was making money even before that, right, it was hard for me to go back to the idea of what am I going to do now? Because when you're in the industry, you know this cord that's the best time to get a job. I had people from Turtle Music offer me jobs. I had people from Universal Music offer me jobs. I wouldn't leave because they couldn't max with that one company was giving me right.

So once I lost that job and I kind of was being arrogant, my u brisk. I can do that now through constling years later and say that was my fault, because you know what, I remember when they closed the office down, the lady told me, she said, well you can continue working from the house. But I was so arrogant like that. You know, They're gonna cut my pin in half and I'm gonna work at the house, ain'tle I got something that ass. I quit calling them from

them everybody else. So what you're doing in mind right now? Oh well I'm no longer with them. Oh let me get back with you. And I learned how the industry work because those people and actually wanted me. They wanted me to go, and there appeal for some of the people I brought over there. You gotta remember I'd had my first platinum record with the ice cream paining job ship, right that was. I had something to do with that record. I signed that producer. I found him and actually you know,

helped put that whole thing together. Um, we had some other stuff going on. We had an opportunity at that time to sign Kenfred Lamar they passed on. We could have actually signed the whole TV roster. They passed on it. You know, when I thought about all that stuff, and man, I was just kind of stuck. Man Like, I went through a period of um where I was just almost the only way I could describe it as a mobilarity, to where I just couldn't move. I was just like stuck.

Every day I woke up at twelve o'clock, kind of walked around his motherfucking the days. Man, you know, would go sometimes a day or two it. I was washing my ass dog, and I was just gained a bunch of fucking weight. The little bit of money I did. That is when you got it. Back then, I wouldn't save the ship dog, and I was thinking, you know,

when I put the job, but I just traded. I got this man, that money went so fucking fast because you still have those same bills, and you still have the same lifestyle, you know, And when you wake up a look outside and see tolds getting cars getting told off the driveway and ship they came to the point, dog, I even get a funk. I sat up here and watched them, told my escalator way, and I was just so fucking just stuck, man, And you really, you know,

I'm gonna tell you. That's where my wife leaned being on me. And she started telling me, hey, let's go to church. You know, I don't wanna go to church. Once I started going back to my roofs dog and hearing the word of God, I realized that I turned into a man that I didn't want to be. I wasn't no good to my family. Um. I went back in the regular world for a minute. Court. I went and got me a job. You know what I realized,

I said, you know what, I got an education. I'm gonna get me a job, you know what I mean. So I wouldn't have got me a sales job. And I went back into regular world for a little bit. Man, I started coaching my son's football team. And so really were most people leaning the drugs. I leaned in the guy the family. Yeah, I'm leaning the guy of family. And my wife she really helped me through that period. Dog, She really helped because it was a very dark period

for me. Ain't thinking happened. Dog. I thought of killing myself because I I was identifying. You know, I went from being this provider to where whenever she needed something. Dog Like my wife, you know, when my daughter was born, she took two years off of work. You know, it was like, you don't worry about that. You gotta think about the court. At that time, when I had my situation with Mind of Music, they assigned me as a

writer and I had a couple of deals. I had to deal with a company called Peak would go for an England and they were paying me nine dollars a record nine nine hours, but nine pounds a record. At that time, the pound was like two to one, so I was wind up getting seventeen dollars a record. So I wasn't doing them selling five six thousand pieces. But I was releasing albums every three months. I was distributing all that you know Big eight during that time, I

was distripping all the dog ship over there. So I just had an abundance of money because I got these people paying me a quarter million dollars a year. I'm making about thirty forty rats a month from just selling records dog overseas at the time. And then what happened was that ship slowed these you remember when Drama got busted. Yeah, but drama got cracked. That's when all that ship, even though my ship was legitimate, anything that you didn't talk

about drama from Atlanta. Yeah, when he got busted with all that stuff, I was doing the same stuff he was doing, but I was doing it with legal stuff. But they were records that wasn't necessarily cleared from the label like Das. You know he had ship was distributing snoops mixtapes and you know you figured like this, you know Big eight, Big eight I was a CD. He cool with that. I'm I'm talking and he was on the CDs because it's just us lying, ribbing nobody. But

it's an usle Dog. I used to walk around dog, and then I was do tours over in Japan and stuff. Bro. I would come back home with just rows of money dog Like. I remember one time he got so bad man. Remember when he used to win him to both chains. Yeah, I remember one time I had like thirty five dollars in one of my pockets and my wife watched them and the money got kind of fucked up. I wasn't like shot. I gave that ship to my kids though. Yeah, it was just like that dog. I didn't have no

respect to what was going on. And when you lose that dog, and I'm gonna tell you God got away, man. And when your eagle get out of control, God has a way of stripping you down to your very minimum dog. Okay, you don't want to listen, I'm about to strip your ass down and and make you back. You know, people, you're back up again. I learned. I learned a less than humility dog. And it really was a very humbling

and life changing experience. Because that's why I talked to people when I when I tell people, oh man, somebody to kill themselves. That week I was saying all that in that week, bro, I said, you can you don't never know what no men and going through. When you're depressing, you are in a black hole. Literally, you feel no happiness, You don't want to be living and and you know suicide that that happens when you're coping. Mechanisms have failed,

you know what I'm saying. When you lose hope, um, you know, And I think like sometimes what people have to understand is when you can identify a purpose in your life. When you identify a purpose, then you tend to make you know different choices. You know, what I'm saying. Um but yeah, you know that depression ship. Like you said, it's a it's a it's a dark hole. And you know, after my mom passed away, I went into a deep depression. And like you said, I used to you know, everybody

else in the house would get up. My kids will go to school, my wife will go to work. I would just lay in the in the room, sometimes with the TV not not on, you know what I mean. And and I can remember when everybody would come home, I would get up and act like I've been doing some ship like you know what I mean. And you know my money was straight at the time, so I didn't necessarily have to be doing anything. But you know, um man, that was the U you know, a really

bad time. But you know, at the end of the day, you know again in this world, because you know this world as a motherfucker, it would beat you down and it will hold you down to keep you down. This world would literally stick its long arm to the elbow, up your ass and wave you around like a puppet. You know what I'm saying. And and and so what I found is you you have to be mentally strong, spiritually strong, emostly strong, physically strong in this world, you

know what I mean. And I think a lot of people, like I said, you have to do your work. I had to learn to do my work. Like you deal with anxiety. You know. Anxiety is worried about ship that ain't even happened. You're you're worried about the future. You know, depression. A lot of times you're stuck in the past. You're worried about ship you can't even change. It ain't even

exist anymore, you know what I mean. So I think when you consider yourself and and and find and be present, and then you know almost like the a A say what they saying that they say, you know, uh, what is it? You know accepted things? You cannot change that And that's the real that's the truth. You know, you have to be president. And I think, like I say, when you feel like you have something to live for and you have a purpose. That's why I tell people, man,

be a purpose chase and not a paper chaser. You know what I'm saying, Because you know, chasing money that that that don't give you nothing. You know, money, But when you identify a purpose, when you really feel like, damn, I'm here for something, and then you're giving. Sometimes giving is just affecting other people, you know, because people remember how they how you made them feel. People don't remember the car you had, the jury you had, all that bullshit,

but people remember how you made them feel. And that's your leg. So and then and then sometimes just got damn meditate. I meditate every day and I take inventory on my life, right, I think about, you know, the things that I need, the things that I don't, situations and different things like that to try to so so you know, unfuncked my mind and keep it as clear

as possible. So I think that, you know, and I'm saying all this to say, these are tools, and these are ways that people can train their minds where they don't have to the further drugs. You know what I'm saying. Just deal with your ship, sift through your ship. And I know for some you know, it may be easier said than done. You know, everybody's you know, mental for to tow and emotional intelligence isn't developed like that, but

with practice it can be. Because see, the language that I'm giving now is not something that I knew years ago. This is over time, you know what I'm saying. Hopefully I could share it with somebody that's going through it now and they could hear it and it could inspire them to say, oh shift, I'm not alone. Because depression will make you have make you feel like you by yourself, like like God is picking on you, like like God don't like me. He just sucking over me and every

body else. You know. But you know, people, you know, everybody's fighting a battle that you know, our battles that know what body knows about you know what I'm saying.

One thing I found without man with dealing with my therapist, right because you know your therapist still go to therapy twice a month now, you know, because there's certain things that man, we need to have conversation sometimes with people that you may nothing necessarily I could talk to my wife about anything, but some stuff I can't talk to my wife about. Everything is some stuff. As a man that I go through the shot will have no clue to show, you know, you know, he's supposed to let

them know. We gotta shoulder that ships as unhealthy as it is, that's just what it is. You know what I'm saying. That's us as protector. Sometimes we gotta protect them, you know, we may not know. It's been times where fuck, I don't know how I'm gonna do certain ship. I don't you know, ship maybe a little worse than what my old lady may know. But I showed her that, you know what I'm saying, because as a man, as

a protector, that's what I do for my kids. I never wanted my kids or my old lady to be frettened about nothing. You and me, I've always been kind of a leader, right, So it's like with me, you know, even with me running this network, I have multiple families that depend on me, right, So I remember, man, I would like, really, I don't think people had no idea how many months I would forfeit getting paid to make

sure that they had some money. And it's just not one person, you're talking about four or five different people. And my therapist told me one day, he said, you know, to dye on self, be true. You can't be a blessing to nobody if you funked up. You gotta make sure you straight or you're not gonna be able to help nobody. And then one thing he told me to is take responsibility for situations that you create. Because I remember at one time it led to me having a problem.

I wanted to put everybody on that one time. Anybody that can't I wanted to put them on, but didn't. I realized everybody is not worth Everybody can't go. My mom used to tell me that everybody can't go. Everybody can't go. And it's been people that I love that I've had to ex out my life just because it was unhealthy for me to be around them. And it's just like I had to take care of me. I had to take care you know, if this person is not bringing nothing genuine to know the type of value,

what is he wrong for? If he's you know, giving you bad information and making you feel even worse, why even have them around? Yeah, because you know a phrase of the addicts that misery loves company is very true. You would have people going to this stuff and they would track you down the stuff. It's like dog. One thing my uncle Doug told me, and I thought it was the coldest in the world. He told me. I asked him one day, man, what were your own? Boy? Let me when he said, man, I had to stop

working with him myself. Why Because he said that motherfucker always got some ship going on. He said it just like that. He said, every time I leave them mother Funcker's house, I'm depressed. I stopped with him because he was an unlucky motherfucker, and I learned that that's real game. You have to not not that you get insensitive for people, but sometimes you need to hear. Everybody helps ship. I mean,

energies are contagious. Energies are contagious, and sometimes you have to moderate that ship, like you could care for someone you know. But I always say, you don't have to set yourself on fire to keep other people warm, you know what I'm saying, Like you have to know you know, man, energy is is that's everything where we put out what we receive and we have to control that because yeah, that ship can be parasitic, especially when it's not reciprocated.

You know what the energy is a motherfucker's it's like you know what I knowiced thumb. Whenever something good would happen, you get certain people that won't never call you. You don't hear from something good, but the moment they think they found something where they gotta barrel over you. Oh man, you saw it with such a suckceed about you, so with such and such they send you missed, just the videos and ship. It's like I have to tell the motherfucker's stop sending me ship. Man. I got a computer

with this motherfucker. I don't need to see that ship. I don't care about what they said. I entertained myself with that stuff. Let them do what they go do. Yeah, let them do what they go doing. Another thing I've learned in therapy to court is that you have to take time out for yourself sometimes. I've learned. Man. My therapist told me one day, he said, I want you to cut your phone off. You know, I don't mean just cut your phone off for a thing. I want

you to just cut this buttfuck off outside. You know, because my mama got my wife's number. You' wanna get me, he said, cut your phone off a week. I've learned. The worst thing in our lives right now is this motherfucker right here, because for the first time in history, do you remember when we just had home phones? James, Yeah,

Moco call your house. They catch you when they catch you, right, But you know, when you land up with your wife somewhere, your kids and Disneyland, that motherfucker ring the first thing you want to do is what's that Now you wind up spending the time next you can have with your family. And I'm gonna tell you something. Time is the most precious commodity on this planet because when we lose time court we are never going to get that time back. You can't get it back. It's not like you've got

time banked up somewhere. Well you know what, I'm gonna go take me a couple of months out or I want to do that. No, you're not gonna get that time back. So you have to value your time. Especially I hear so many older people want to lose their spouse. The first thing they say is I wish I would have spent more time. Yeah, we all say that when we lose loved ones. You know what I'm saying, because you know, it's almost like that that that emotion of of of of you know, guilt or or regret is

stronger than gratitude. You know what I'm saying. Um, you know, but you know, hey, like I say, man, life is hard as ship bro. You know it's But but what I've learned too is you know what what life? Life is hard, but sometimes humans complicated. To be very honest, with you. You have to exercise a level of funcket in life. You have to sure, you gotta understand the controls and illusion. The best thing that we can do

is try to influence the outcome that we want. But at the end of the day, it's gonna be what it's gonna be. So you know, all we can do is do our best, you know, be the best people that we can be. You know. Um, I was having a conversation with someone the other day. I tend to kind of have these conversations with millennials, and you know, millennials are built a lot different, you know, you know, And I was talking to him about grace and mercy

and forgiveness. You know, we carried so much unnecessary baggage in life. That's what that's what contributes to depression and anxiety and drug use because we got all these unnecessary fucking baggage. You know, you gotta learn how to cut that ship off. Sometimes we are own worse enemy because we were in our heads with a bunch of ship, you know what I mean. Um, you know, pass ship.

We all got pass ship, you know, But at the end of the day, that ship don't exist no more, you know, what I'm saying that we're carrying it around. So I think, you know, just going to the self work, you know, just doing the work. You know. And one thing about me, a quality that that I have is I can be a hundred percent honest with myself, no matter how uncomfortable the situation is. Many people lie to themselves,

you know, when you start trying. It's one thing that's trying to slick somebody else, but when you try to start slicking yourself, you funked up. You know. Yeah, So you know, I always encourage people, man, just do the work, because everybody's self work is different, you know what i mean. Like, you know, with me, I knew I had them. You know, even though I'm cool and I'm calm and I'm reserved, I have a very vengeful spirit, you know what I'm saying. You know, if you do something to me, it's like

like I'm I'm gonna get you. You know what I'm saying. If it's ten years from now, like I'm not gonna forget. And I knew that that wasn't healthy. I was like, okay, I'm putting out bad energy even with that, you know what I'm saying, that's why I say grace and mercy, forgiveness is usually for you. It's for you always, not

even for the other motherfucker. You know. So when you're carrying in those gripes and those that that's heavy baggage and all that ship weighs you down and it alters your perspective because you know, perspective is the biggest thing, and it's fun is all about how you see. Ship is your disposition, you know what I'm saying, and it it tends to cater to your attitude as well. And your attitude is gonna reflect the ship that you you know, uh,

that you receive, you know. So yeah, I think it's just doing the self work, bro, you know, just doing that health work. You know. One thing I want to say, Court, is that this right here, Um, we don't have time machines. And that's one thing you know, I learned my therapist. He said, you know, because I had all this stuff that I didn't realize it's bothering me. That was in the past, right he said, Man, check this out. We don't have time machines. Why are you worried about that ship.

It's not like you can go back and correct it. Because even if you did, even if we could, you can may go back and funk up something and you come back in your life, you've got another problem all that you're dealing with. One thing about it, bro, we are going to always have issues. We are always going to have complications. And I don't care if you've got twenty million dollars in the bank, that don't matter. Nobody's

in nobody don't matter, That don't matter. You hear about people all the time worth thirty forty million dollars putting a pistol in their mouth and just ding all because they cannot deal with it all. All the money they have is not go sure the elves that they got going in their life. But this is one thing I want to say, Man, if you've got a problem with drugs, go get some help. Drugs ain't drugs, ain't nomber the band day. They're not gonna fix nothing. They don't fix

the damn thing. All they're gonna do is make it, make it, make it worse, and find some you know, find a spiritual You know, I'm not saying you have to be a Christian or a Muslim, but whatever that that moves you to to peace. You know what I'm saying, and to believe in something higher than yourself, you know what I mean, and something you can be relied upon, like make the necessary changes. That's really what this life

ship is is to continue to evolve. If you don't evolve or nigga dissolved, you know what I'm saying, So you can't stay in the same place. Be open to new ideas, like from the hood, just like all of y'all, you know what I'm saying. Like I've done some of this ship. You know I was. I ain't gonna say I was as gangster as James, but you know I did my ship right, you know. But so at this point, but I had to allow myself to evolve and accept

new ideas, you know what I'm saying. So I think a lot of people, you know, it's easier to blame than it is to change. It's easy to say, mom, daddy, you know, it wasn't it was this, it was dad, it's the homies, it's this, that and the other. No, at some point, motherfucker, you making choices. You know. Anybody that don't allow you to grow past that person, Like I'm gonna tell you something, they're gonna fall off. From you.

They're gonna fall out here. The worst thing I ever heard, and I'm not gonna get the singing name because it ain't the pop that I heard somebody saying, I told you I could turn them back into Maum James, and it sounded so evil, bro, it was kind of like, damn, So you just want to homely, just to go back and just sunk all this ship off now because he's making progress. When this life it bothers you that bad? You really you really want to see this man back

on the block on his ass. Yeah, they ally, they still listen. There's powers that be. That's the devil, bro. It's niggas trying to trick me out of my spot. Is niggas trying to trick James, trick you? And I didn't have them. I didn't almost been tricked to. You know what I'm saying, I don't almost fail for the fucking banana tailpipe. But yeah, man, like that's that's why

I say Nigga's especially Nigga's just doing something. Nigga's gotta be emostly strong, mentally strong, you know what I'm saying, Spiritually strong, all of that ship. You gotta keep that arm wrong when you nigga, it's a war outside. That's how I look at my life. There's a war outside, so many fucking wars. It's financial war, emotional war. It's bitches trying to get at me, trying to funk up my my, my relationship and temp me. It's it's niggas trying to you know, play with me and trick me

off the streets. Is niggas trying to rob me, A police trying to arrest me? Is you know what I'm saying like, And nigga gotta just you know, keep it tie bro right. A moultitude of motherfucker's and you know we call them haters, no man, but there's people out there that really can't stand and see somebody else content, so they want to throw everybody of misery and way

they're feeling like. I'll tell everybody all the time if you catch your troll in your comments me, I don't go out my way to look at ship that don't enterest me. But you have the same motherfucker all in your mix. He telling you about this over you ain't this and man, you'd be thinking, Man, I'm pretty sure I'm doing better than your bum mass Yeah, real talk. You can just tell by the comment and nigga. You can tell all about the nigga with what come out

of his mouth. If a nigga is hating all the time and gossiping and talking about other niggas, he's talking about you too. He gossip in about you too, you know what I mean. So I always say, like I used to tell motherfucker's all the time. Man, you hang around, you know, uh, nine broken niggas, nine negative niggas. You're finn to be the tent. You know, you could tell what the nigga owned. You just let him talk, you know. And when we go ind and right there, that was perfect. Well,

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