DeHaven Irby Talks The Streets & Jay-Z Betrayel

ghettos all across America, man Um. When the correct epidemic hit, Man, it hit a lot of communities, and it almost seemed like to hit everybody count of like at the same time. Reaganomics. Huh yeah, Reaganomics. Compton, you know, so whether you were in Compton, California, we even know how Detroit again, Um, you know Brooklyn, New York, where it almost sounded like

it was playing that way. It actually happened that way because when when when the crank came out, you know, Nickers wasn't thinking about going out of state with it until that's saying you can come here, It'll be more money out here, and they can make money. So motherfucker's got on new buses and back then you be playing and fly and that's how everybody started gravitating a different STAPs, but popped up. It was just good. And when God looked up on going out of state, Castle is making

it money fast. That's what happened. Exactly exactly what happened. Yeah, and it's a crazy time. But now on this show, man, we always talked about the West Coast at the things. You know, I'm glad we had the opportunity to bring you on here because you wanted the more authentic fellas. You know, you got a known history, right, tell us what it was like during that time when your side

of the comfry man like Brown eighties, like the mid eighties. Man, it's it's like this, It's almost seemed like a lot of people had money. It was money in the streets period. You know what I'm saying. Um, you either was on one side, either you was getting money or you wasn't, or you was attached to somebody getting money. It was just like a party in scene like money everywhere. Like it really wasn't too many broke people around. So I don't know, you know, I can't. It's just like a

good time. And then it was so much loyalty and and and and friendships. If if one person had money, his team had money. You feel I'm saying that's why I felt like everybody had money. But you know what I'm saying, So the New York rappers, how everybody wouldbody was, you know, doing it on the corners, uh, break dancing and all that. And then when it hit in New York, it just like it just became the thing to do. You know, it was just a different drug in New

York that hit the scene. You know what I'm saying. Everybody was doing other ship opposed to you know, free based and that ship, and it had an impact, like because now that you mentioned in it like that, you know, I'm thinking about music of like self destruction or they put self destruction together, you know what I'm saying. Behind that, behind what was happening, And I ain't I've really seen nothing them putting nothing together against what's going on now.

Really like I never know, all of them never got unified to stop these guns. You're here, No, a bunch of artists get together and do a song about really stopping the on that on that level of self destruction. You get what I'm saying. M hm, So it was, it was. It was bad back then, man, until you know, and I can't even explain how to working, you know how to work and if you know people parents was working nine to five. It was just ship was moving

around when you know, I know New York. You guys don't have a whole lot of movies to kind of replay those times, but you do have a classic one, you know, one of the more classic ones was you know my man cam joint camps in and um pay the full, pay them full. Yeah, so pay them full. You know, if you watch Step if you like, y'all was just having a party like people get money, y'all, was having a good time, y'all, just spending money on cars, y'all was just you know, not the man bros down.

What was it like? Man? I mean, see that's Hollom World. You feel me that that's Hollom World's image. You know what I'm saying. I relate to it because of the massive money we was getting and you know, buying the you know, luxury cars and live in a certain style. But it's you know it, we would we wasn't moving

like that the way they showed it. You know what I mean that, Like I said, that's Hollom world, like we you know, I'm from a whole another borough, Brooklyn where you're not doing that everywhere, you know what I'm saying. And it's a certain way you have to do it and move in Brooklyn and ship so um. But that when you say that movie set like set the trend, it really what really said that the trend was scar face because that may everybody give them. You know what,

I think you got scar faced New Jack City. You know what I'm saying, all those those joints that really made people that want to get out there and get money. You know what you want to say talking about influencing movies on the streets, you almost want to say, scar Face, New Jack City and Covers was probably three worst movies ever made, black Man, because it made us and ghettos all across the comfry want to do some different. Ship

everybody wants. Yeah, yeah, you ain't lying you about that. Yeah, it enticed us, It enticed us. It glorified and what it was that that's the movie part of it. It glorified something to us to be like, yo, so that's what we you know, those are the things we want to get. But we missed some vital situation. We missed some vital points in that. You know what I'm saying. When when Tony was sitting in that crowd, going yo, man, this is I've done all this to get here, this

is it. You know what I'm saying, the same way I'm looking at it. I've done all lists, played by the rules. For y'all to agree with some of the ship that you're doing. Now, you know what I'm saying, it's almost like the same ship. Like damn, I played by the rules. I fought for this, I did that, and here I am now y'all saying it's okay, right, But what about the guys who died for this ship?

You know what I'm saying, So because I don't know nothing, diod that every game out to do game, every that was involved, they all at the end, whether it was minimum collateral damage of maximum collateral damage, everybody suffered something at the end of that month. Ain't nobody can get away scott free, right right? Yeah? Yeah, I mean yeah, I agree with that. Even if you feel that way, But you don't feel that way because you've lost people in that back, so it affected everybody. You know what

I'm saying that it is no good outcoming. And you know, you know you don't hear that ship. And when you're young, you know, in that time, in that era, the money was coming so fast. You know, you had my o gs that used to say that. You know, you know what I'm saying, like, yo, bro, you know what I'm saying, this is what you need to do. This is what you this is how you need to move. But you kind of didn't respect that because he was getting so much paper. You're really looking at like, how could I

go broke? You know, I mean I could go to my man and get fifty a hundred. You know, everybody's up, So you're really looking at it, like you know, I could do this forever you ain't see it paid in full. He was like, man, it's like basketball, NBA play, I could do this ship, you know what I mean. Like, and that's what's in our mind that because we was up like that in that in our times, that that's

the best thing we can do. That's why so many niggas falls system to going back to doing that because they will they're thinking about that triggers in their mind like this is what I'm good at though, right, that's all I know. This is all I know. You know what I'm saying. You heard what he say, which said that if the Street's gonna love me if I leave all listen. So you know a lot of ship had played.

You know you you missed in that ship man, when you had to really think about it, you had You're like I said, you have to be deepend this ship to understand that ship. You get what I'm saying, Yeah, what do you think what exam No, I was gonna say. So those movies, man, are really impact influencing ship on people, man,

just like the music is now. You know what man, I would say right now, Man, especially music, Man, music has almost been responsible or to been the sound track to every damn epidemic that on every hit like America. You think about it now, you know from the early two thousands they were talking about sipping on some scissors, right, and everybody now talking about popular peel. That's the thing. You see what I'm saying to where it was in the eighties. I think when we was coming up, man,

you wanted to be everything, but a dope team. Remember all the messaging was kind of anti adult message. Didn't nobody that was my thing. I was so scared of becoming a fiend. I wouldn't even smoke weed to do nothing right, James, you're cutting out a little bit. I don't know for some reason You're not it's coming. It's cutting out a little bit. Say I didn't know which called him in your background, But you know, I think, I think and and everybody ain't gotta do crack. Everybody

ain't gotta smoke weed. I'm in my late fifties and I think I have smoked marijuana. But that's when it was called home wrong. You put it in you know what I'm saying. You put it in the microtway. You hear it up. It wasn't nothing with you had a day. So I made a choice not to smooth because it made me feel a certain kind of way, and I would fight if I had to fight when I got high that day off of that ship. So I didn't touch it no more. So it wouldn't it wouldn't po me,

you know what I'm saying. So there's a lot of people out there like you was saying that that feel you know, something is out there that when they get high, they can express theirselves better. When they own these different type of drugs and ship they that man, you know what I'm saying, they're gonna do something that they wouldn't when they do if they were sober. So a lot of mother fulers get drunk and do drugs just on on load basis. So I mean, it's it's just a

tricky situation. You know the music business. You're hearing about how the motherfucker can kill you with a certain kind of gugs. That ever, I didn't want to go get that particular gun and be that dude. M but all that ship is choices. Well, you know the thing is this though James pop cultures is always had a found

effect impact on the streets of America. It's pretty much dictated everything that's going on if you had a like you said, like we talked about scar Face and um, you know, brown Cat, two typical characters that people kind of wanted to be like because I think in the ghetto, man, we always look at those cats that look like Superman.

We always tend to follow the guy that seemed like he's bucking the system of beating the odds like I'm gonna get over when we do get on, you feel, don't mean it was always that theme in the movie. So it's almost like some ghetto robbing hood ship where it's like you made the motherfucker's aspire to be something greater.

And it was a motherfucker in that audience that when he saw star Face and said, you know what, I could beat that Tony Montana mothers, but I'll be damned if it wasn't a whole bunch of motherfuckers that went out and damn they beat it. Well, you had some cash out there living like it already, and it just made me think, Okay, I'm not type of motherfucking But I didn't watch those movies and get a kick off

of it. I watched Western movies. I wanted to be an Indian, but the cowboys because they wouldn't be different. You was different than the average dude in the hood. You was probably a full time gang banger at the age of sixteen, you feel what I mean? Where he was really up there doing ship that was to watch a movie. He wasn't doing them for fantasize. The situation elevated for me in nineteen eighty when I was the

first time I ever was shot. So that's when I realized that I had to step up my game because they played with guns, so let me play with guns. That was the only difference, you know what I'm saying. But I didn't you know, when I seen Uh Colors, I laughed at that ship because it was the weakest ship I've ever seen. That ain't how it goes, you know what I'm saying. King of New York's and Uh New Jack City, that ship was cool to me because I didn't understand that side of the world. Like we

had this problem today. You got New York cats that don't like California cats. You got California cats say they laying why they swing, they hustle, they get down. People don't realize that they live a total different way from we do. You know what I'm saying, Like I go to Texas and I say, Texas is so far behind California. But when when like my brothers out there started working with the drugs, they was moving fast because it was like they was trying to catch up, you know what

I'm saying. So it's just it's just different though, But would you say the way you just describe that West coast, East coast. I just always felt that, man, it ain't really you're from. The morals in this street ship don't change, right, You get what I'm saying. The rules, I haven't seen any different. Rules don't matter what side of the town I've been on. You know what I'm saying. I understand there's rules and living by the gang life, the gang

culture life. Right if we understand that, you know what I'm saying, But also there's still morals in the game. You get what I'm saying that, Like I've been over there where there, you know, you get a past because man, you know you're not even from here. You know you don't know no better. You're wearing that you really don't know no better and not and I know that, So you know, we get passes on that. I've seen that before,

you know what I mean. So, But morally, but how if you're in these streets, man, it's all the same. The codes are the same, you know. So, And like you just describe colors that movie, I did not even really understand that movie because I wasn't I wasn't brought up on gang culture. You know what I'm saying. So when you say two different lifestyles, some two different sides

of the world. Yeah, when I've seen colors and didn't all the blood and blood out and all that in American me all that ship is there's a different way of living from over here right right, you know you know what I mean? Um, I just always say to myself, Man, I wish I would have had someone a contact over there, you know what I mean, Like I could have seen, I would have seen much more. My my vision would

have would have been much bigger. You know what I'm saying. Um, I ain't even had nobody to really turn me onto like ship go to Miami. Then you get what I'm saying, Like you know, so my my father, this thing was this right here in in in Uptown Hallo where you know where it all stashed at. You know. But let me ask you this, e um, because I'm originally complete in a while, so I always trip on other states

back there are closer together. You know, you can pull off, you can mess around to be in Kentucky and a couple of hours leaving from on how old than you can be in p A a few hours to be and West Virginia a few hours so I think it made y'all hustle a little different man, because you have New York. Tester was going over, you was going on New Jersey. Yeah, backyard right there, New Jersey, d C. Baltimore. Yo, Um, you can do that, but it ain't. It ain't as

easy as you saying, though. You get what I'm saying, like, it's a certain way, is a certain way in style that you have to move to even be able to do that. You want to ask you because you was doing some things. Yeah, that was pretty thig. You know. You know what, man? What what got me into other cities? Wherever I was? Man honestly was And it's crazy to

say that with sports, you know what I'm saying. I can go in any city, you know what I'm saying and find me a basketball court and whenever they're bawling that it's somewhere you know, I'm gonna meet somebody that I don't know what it is with balling and hustler. What somebody they're gonna no, like, oh damn, bro, you're game tight and then it's gonna spark a conversation and then it's gonna spark the time. That's your call over there. Yeah damn. But so you're from New York. Yeah, like cool,

you know what I'm saying. And next you know, you know, you're just like you gotta get in where you fit in, right, you know what I'm saying, ain't no oh I'm coming over this block, that this block is taking down money. I'm gonna do that. That ship there, I don't see nothing. I don't see niggas even body bags doing that dumb ship, you know what I'm saying. I was always like, you know,

about some money. And that's what's so so unique about my situation in my case, bro, for all the money in touch, for all the money I touched in this game, and for you know, for what they say I've done. Man, it really it was no violence in my case. You know what I'm saying. No guns, no violence, you know what I'm saying. And that was what what was was unique about. It was just strictly getting money. I've always been on some money ship, you know what I mean.

I don't advocate violence because we can't get no money with that. That ship is gonna bring problems. So you know, um, that's why I don't have any you know, while shootout stories and you know, and stories with violence and this ship because I just never was on that lane. Man, that ship I stated, I don't change. I don't change gangster niggas. That was about that life. And then showing them about man the money over here like all that ship. You know what I'm saying, that's definitely a one way

to get to jail, you know what I'm saying. And death, you know what I'm saying, Like, let's be let's be humble, let's share this money. You know what I'm saying, Let's let's just get rich. And and the sad part about that, you're still gonna find the haters and that I ain't saying that this ship it comes with violence. You know, they don't getting sucked up that that. You know, it comes with violence this game. But that's just been something I've always tried to avoid. You know what I'm saying.

When they ran off with my money, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, you moved a total different way. You was low peeple real and there was a lot of brothers out there that straight on the low fee. If if I know is nine niggas over there with guns and they're fenna do shooting I ain't gonna go over that way. That ain't my my purpose. So I get what you're talking about. So you knew what to do and what not to so you know the way you moved is totally different from everybody else. That keeps you

away from everything. You know, I'm saying, I don't come in as a threat. You feel me like anywhere I go, you know what I'm saying, Like, really, I'm a New York representative, my dude, you feel me wherever I go. I'm representing New York City. So I want niggas to say, yo, yo, you know that dude, the Haven man, he was the cool. Last thing he was about his bread. You know what I'm saying, That's the lane you want to set for the next people that come in, you know what I'm saying.

So I'm just here to represent my city when I go to other spots man, and and trying to make you know, just just be humble about it, man. That's why I'm like, the way I played might play this game in my life. Man. And and this is what the outcome is, man, that I got away with a lot of ship because of just just being humble and being fed with this ship. That's one thing he said. It's golf. You know what I'm saying. He said, I don't break my balls for nobody. You know what I'm saying.

It's all I got. You know what I'm saying. And I always believe like my old gs man, they were strictly about money, man. I was just turned on about money. None of them was about violence, man, Nobody. A lot of my mother's friends raised me. You feel me, and they've never steered me in the wrong direction. Always said school, said school. All the choices I've done, all the things I've done, is because of my choice. I ain't never had no o g tell me, man, no go funk school,

Ain't no money in that. That ain't no real leader, you know what I'm saying. A lot of my fuckers didn't have you had you had growing more fockers that that looked out for you. You didn't have no super fockers saying come on, let's go get in the car. It's a big difference when when you don't have that and you don't hear that o Gee how to let you right away? You're gonna go the way he told me, because that's all you heard. But you got people to say,

oh man, that ain't the way to do it. Like and then when you fast forward today, man, and just look at this Luca, what's going on? Who they following? Bro? Who these old g's out You know these are weird. Like I feel like we're responsible for them, you know what I'm saying. But because we don't look a certain way, they ain't hearing us. They ain't hearing us. If there is a generation that's strictly on vision, right, ain't no

ain't no faith. They don't believe in nothing unless they can see it if you're not woking every walk and doing what you was doing thirty years ago. Day and they don't want to hear that ship you and what I'm doing. That's real ship all day. But you know, you got o g s out there today that don't want to be bothered because they don't want to have to do nothing to this because these dunces out here today don't listen. Yeah, And and it's it's a it's a give and take thing with them, you know what

I'm saying. We I know I'm dealing with a fast temper generation. Soft They fried you. You gotta watch how they talk to you. You talk to them. So I'm out here. I be in these streets a lot, man, be in these streets in every city, and and like that's just what I do. That's what I love. And I can relate with them. I speak their language. And when they see you, they got a lot more respect for you other than you just sitting behind the teeth, sitting behind here going they can see you, and like, yeah,

you know, I respect that. But I try to explain to a lot of these O g s too, man, like don't give up, you know, just have some dialogue. Don't just be like, come on, man, you you just gotta be fragile them. I know were not like that, but you just gotta be fragile with these dudes, man, and speak their language. And if I turned two and three out of thirty, bro is good. But one thing about them, and they these young dudes out here, they do respect me because I don't move like that as

a threat. You know what I'm saying. And I know how I relate to them. Man, it's something new in these dudes. Man. On top of this, they wired. They're already wired through this. You know what I'm saying. When I say they wired, they wired and and I know we all go relate if you relate to that. If you can't, just take one of them teenage phones and they games from them, and then you can understand what I'm telling you when I tell you they wired. Man, James Grandsons five mess. All he do is still on

them games. He still and he get mad when I take them, mad like like he it's almost like if he could beat you, he'd try for that game. Yo, he will, you know what I'm saying. And they I don't know if these people ain't seeing it, America ain't seeing it with it and our youth with this, you know what I'm saying. And it's you know, it's the single parents that's like, Yo, listen, I'd rather him here

than out on the street. And like it really ain't gonna make a difference, you understand, because he's gonna be wired aget you when it's time. You know what I'm saying, if you leave him in that room and let him close the door, like yo, Man, this generation and what's going on now, Man is really the new the new game for us. Man is actually, Man, it's just uh,

you know, mentoring going up in these schools. Man, just you know what I mean, talking to them man and and letting them know, Bro, look man, this is not what you want. Man. You know what I'm saying. I give them a vision like when I told to him, I'll be trying to get them in my space, like you know, I get up on them, like in their space and go, this is how you're living in there?

Are you comfortable with me up on you? Likeness? You know what I'm saying, Like I try to get into them like that, you know, um to tell that this ship ain't cool. This ship, I don't know where they get the violence inside them from, you know. And if I get give you example, I was at a basketball game a couple of weeks ago and these dudes was they was playing some tough ball and it led to them almost fighting. These dudes get me get it on. And I'm standing on the sideline going, man, this mad

kids out here. Then please I hope they don't fight, man, Please, I hope they don't fight. So this little dude come next to me, a little dude about ten twelve years and he's standing there watched it too. So after they broke it all up and it was good, I looked at the little dude, I said, she Ain't you glad they didn't fight? He said, I came over to see them fight. I said, Man, I can't tell like, I just don't know what's in them that make them feel like this ship. Man, you know what it was. I

was gonna tell you. Man, we talked about the games and stuff. Man. They got these virtual reality games. No man, these you know, the VR glasses that you could put on. You almost almost feel like man, they slowly about the merge human beings with technology in a minute, like they just depended for Because you think about it now, I'm gonna tell you I've been experimenting something for the past month or so. I took it back to the old.

So I turned my phone off some days because you won't be able to get no work done with your phone, all right? And are you unplugging for that day? You almost had motherfucker's man. Actually, like, I couldn't reach out to you when I wanted to. But at one point it wasn't always like that. You remember, you had a home phone at home, and the most leave a message,

you might call somebody. You know what I'm saying. You might think you we got the beeper error, but still you wouldn't always garantee to get a call back on that, you know what I mean. Then motherfucker's figured out ways to communicate to that. If you're mad the motherfucker you're sitting in the one eight seven, or you're sending motherfucker's information, you know, we can start figuring off with the codes

and talk to the pages and stuff. But we've become so dependent on technology man to where it's almost ruining. It's almost ruining our life. Likes moving moving. It's moving faster than we are see and that's what the problem is. So when they put it out and and then the black market get ahold of it, there's no laws in place fast enough to correct that ship. You get what I'm saying, Like oh ship, it wasn't a law for this, and I ain't know like big coin, it wasn't no

digital money. So if you got robbed for it, what law was it about? You know what I'm saying. So it's still a lot of laws that they have to make behind certain things. That's moving too fast. All this ship is too fast and they're trying and it's it's down to just our kids is in the school. You'll teach them colding right off the gate. Now, you know what I'm saying in to us us old school. You heard what you just said, page and this and that. Bro. Honestly,

it's our job to keep up. You know what I'm saying. You see what you just said with your grandson, and you just you're really we gotta be really paying attention. And they're schooling us to ship right. You understand I'm saying, like it really this whether we like it or not. As as old school niggas, this the new money it is. I utilized technology, but one thing that I had to realize, man is dead. You can almost become addicted to all this ship right phones because I'm looking at my kids

sometimes ain't nothing happening. They just had their phone in their hands, just looking at it every few minutes, like like they waiting for something happened, like they gonna miss something on Instagram or something. And it's like, put that ship down and just cheat. I call I call it in real time. You know what I'm saying, Maybe what you're doing, this is all real time. We're in real time right now. We ain't got to wait to nothing. Everything that we wanted in real time right now, right,

you know what I'm saying. That's what I call it. It's in real time. We used to be able to wait for this and wait on that. Why you know, you know why I gotta wait to see this check neck it when when I can see it right here right in real times? You know? Speaking of technology broke, y'all see that movie on Netflix, The Most Hated Man on the Internet. Yeah, I watched. Oh man, I didn't watch it, but I've seen the previews since it. Ye. Then motherfucker was off the change. You gotta remember this

was two thousand, right. He had a platform, man and where people can upload people's pictures, right, and he started that. Yeah, I heard about that. This dude was what I went out. Man, he was like, he was like ruining motherfucker's lives. Don't yeah about that. It wasn't shipped. The police and nobody can do about about the ship. That's what I mean.

New technology, But they was on stuff. They didn't even have a law written for it yet, right there is They didn't have one for COVID, but they had to make up some ship rightly, you know what I'm saying, Like it's new ship involving that they don't have launch for yet, you know what I'm saying. And when you start thinking about it, how fast doesn't how fast it takes for a law of change, what do they what's the post sense of having you change the law? You

know what I'm saying. What is what channels? They gotta go through and ship a lot of means? So about time they get that law and effect the people have damaged already. Yeah, you know the fun thing about it? Think about it, man, we was kids. We'd told somebody that was crazy. If but we somebody had told us, Hey, man, thirty years from now, y'all gonna be speaking through a phone.

You're gonna be in New York, You're gonna be talking to some cats in l A across the country on on your phone, and you're gonna be able to see him. You told them, montherfucker, they was crazy. So just think about how technology is just advanced over thirty years, bro, Just imatine, what's coming to the next thirty I wouldn't be surprised. Not really. We saw it, but we weren't

paying attention. We were sitting back let eating eating chips, and and and in quarter Awards watching Jetsons like all these dudes flying around, but in real time look at this ship. Yo, yeah, we're doing it. Just this This is from right here, bro, real time. This is the Jetsons. You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I forgot the process of it. It's like you know, it's the it's the vision and then the process you know, of making it happen. And you know what, if you can

envision it, man, that you can make it happen. And that's what people are doing now. Man. You know what I'm saying this this they brought the world right here sitting in the fucking car talking to y'all. Right now, this is the world right here. They put they put the They put the world in your hand. It's a good and a curse. Now what you're gonna do with it? You know what I'm saying Now, there's no more pointing fingers that where you're at in life and how why

you can't get through. They give you more and more opportunities now to be creative and get this money, or you want to play the dark side of this ship and put the choice in your hand. They put the choice in your hand on how you want to eat now. So whatever you it is what you was doing. If you were selling socks and making a few dollars and then guess what now you can sell socks worldwide, you feel me. So they're giving you the opportunity to blossom

whatever you got and make money for it. One thing that the internet has done, it has started a whole different economy man of dude to do everything, sit online all day and talk ship and being everybody else's business his motherfucker bet don't fight, man, It's like it's made it for the You remember we call the motherfucker's busy bodies, motherfucker's and everybody's business in the hood. You tell when you tell one thing, next thing, you know, the whole

motherfuckering neighborhood. No, because just this one motherfucker, that same nigger. Now I've got a mincrophone and a laptop up there talking the same ship right now I'm getting paid for You don't want to come out, And his plans is not even to come out no more. He talked to so much ship he ain't coming out no more. That's what I try to tell most of these niggas that's doing that, Like, do you plan not to come out no more. You know what I'm saying, Like or you

really want to live like that? You know what I'm saying, that to be looking over your shoulder with the ship that you got going on, right, you know what I'm saying, Like you're gonna promote violence? Do ahead? At some point it's gonna come back around, you know what I'm saying. But this Internet has gave leverage to us though, Yeah,

his Internet would have gave me. It gave us leverage to be able to address certain situations that people wasn't even working with us, that we wouldn't have been able to get out of the story. I wouldn't have been able to get my story out there without the Internet. That's true in the sense. But don't you think the Internet cursed us a little bit? Because the Internet is putting a lot of motherfucker's in jail, a lot of us in jail. The Internet is telling on us because

we're telling on ourselves. So the Internet is that say, it's working both ways. It all depends on how you choose is to use their Internet. It's a gift and a curse how you want to use it. You're right, it's definitely it's a gift and a curse. But you know, like I just said, man, it's it's out for you to do, to use it in any choice that you want that's gonna benefit you. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,

it's cursed. There's a lot of you know, all the way down to seeing you know, what these police are doing to our kids in the streets like this is man's it's just scary to see what's next, what's next where you know you know you're talking about right now. I'm gonna tell you the one thing I'll do like about the Internet, It made it impossible to black ball somebody big bang, impossible to black ball the motherfucker if you call yourself before Jeams, I'm not gonna lie. In

the nineties. Motherfucker's got power. Get we can silmuce you kind of getting in the magazines. He can squash me doing this. This became the hater's motivator right here to worry. He said, you know what, motherfucker do you think you go silence me? Now? I gotta voice, and motherfucker's gonna come to look at me. They're gonna sunk. They're gonna funk what me and i'n expose your ways. Well, she I learned that watching that movie. When you just I

learned that watching this movie. This movie showed you that you don't have the power. I got the power. This by ship can't nobody touch it. And the only reason why this dude came down is because he was hacking people. That's the only way he was able to get him if they couldn't find him on the hacking. Here's still being business right now, oh for sure nowhere, and he was arrogant with it. I'm gonna tell you the worst

motherfucker to have on your grass in life. I'm gonna tell you you would think it's the white man, but it's the white woman. If you funk with a white woman's kids, she gonna do anything to make sure the motherfucker's because I'm gonna tell you something about them. They don't believe. Look Timmy or An out there doing none of this ship. You say, oh, he was starting cocaine, You're line, Someone said him up there probably was this black me. They gonna fight for their kids to the

end and assume the motherfucker's innocent. She went up that motherfucker's I'm gonna tell you this. If that would have been a black girl showing her breast up there and want them took it down, they wouldn't the game two ships, they said, Oh, that don't e to keep point, here is the mama for her daughter and the reason why she fought for her daughter because she's taking pictures of her ship. She got hacked. Now they all over the internet,

so that was a big difference. And I don't know that should either man see some see My thing is this, we don't like being accountable. The thing is people, especially these millennials, right, and I'm not gonna turn this into the whole nigga versus young nigh, right, but motherfucker's don't want to be accountable. What is the purpose of you're sitting up in your room taking pictures of your tippets unless you go send them to a motherfucker. Some people

went women in more they sell before. That's just like you know, it's just like them, motherfucker to take a picture. They did that support let me kill you. Girls used to sit in the mirror every day. See, I'm a sixty baby. I was born in the sixties, so I know I got sisters, My sisters and them used to sit in the mirror all fucking days that one of my mother friends come over with makeup and ship, and they fell in love with that ship. So now they're

trying to use the makeup. It's all about what they see and how they feel. So now they got the phone. Now they could take the phone and do his ship selfies. Now they could take pictures of everybody and see what they can't see. You know, they can't see the pimples on their ass. But if they take a picture and they see them pimples in their ass. And now they're going Mexico, some motherfucker away trying to get the picts

and man, this ship is crazy. Well that's what I'm saying. Man, this internet got they got our young girls, man, thinking they're not beautiful, not thing, and they got a put filters on them, and we're all kind of ship caked up. Like I didn't go lie. I was in the grocery store of the day and I was with my wife and I saw some girls. Man, it couldn't have been no more than sixteen, had so much ship kaked on their face. I was like, whatever happened to the little girls?

Just what they natural? Beauty? Just being little girls. But it's this Internet that got motherfucker's fucked up. They got him thinking, Oh, I gotta have my ass gotta be bigger. So I'm gonna get some ship in check somewhere in my ass to make my asks fatter because everybody is on the clock right now. Though, like you said, hey, real fucking time, it's totally different. Bro. Girls react like their mother They act like their mothers. We got mothers

out here hanging at the club with their daughters. Though it ain't that mama looking more showing more of her motherfuckers than her daughter is. You know what I'm saying, Just not to cut you. I just was speaking about singles. I was thinking were talking about guns, and I kept trying to figure out with these guns, with these not where they're coming from, but where they at? You understand, like, where are these young niggas hiding these guns? Where they at?

They in these houses? You mean to tell me your mama, I don't know what's in your room. These generational parents, you got a fifteen year old in their sixteen seventeen. You don't know everything that's in this room. You don't search this nigga room, you know, what I'm saying, like, you know these some of these people don't know what your child is doing in the street. It was a commercial that they used to have one yo, it's ten o'clock. Do you know where your your kids are? That used

to come on TV? You know what I'm saying at this point. Now, you don't know what your kid is watching on the internet. When he closed that door and get on that game, when he put on the headphones. You don't know who we're talking to, what they're talking about. Who, who's up? Who's a pedophile that's chasing your child down? You know what I'm saying, these and and and where the guns at in the house? You understand what I'm saying,

like these guns is not outside in the bushes. And then I realized that there's some mothers that's really scared of their children. And I was just about to say that to you, uh, some kids. I'm gonna speak for me. When I had guns in my house, I knew where to hide them where mama's been have been down and go clean up under my bed where she ain't beenna

go up under my mattress, so I thought. But when my mama addressed certain ship I was one of them stupid kids to argue with my mother at fourteen at fifteen. So some of these little cats out here ain't little cash. They little cats does, but you know Mama is scared of them, especially at the dadly leaves when Popster is removed from the house. I could do what the funk I want to do? Now my mama can't tell me ship.

So now today kids has gotten worse in they don't hide their guns, they just put them in they underwear, drawing close to draw about their mother business. So it's changed. They don't care because mama is doing her things. She ain't worried about what he's doing. Some some parents. So it's it's just different. How repairing today opposed to have was in the sixties. In the seventies, I think was

it was more than anything. And I see this We in a generation to where people the daddy want to be their kids own boy, Mama want to be their thoughts, own girl. Our parents as parents, we we we we was known because if I came standing around my mama when she was with her friends talking, the thing that was gonna sit down, don't you see grown folks get your ass up and go outside that you wasn't just gonna be there now, you gotta were a little motherfucker

coming in half the conversation. Mother motherfucker smart with his peris customs, peers out. You got the parients videotaping the motherfucker making the mother for the Instagram famous people out the ship. We think that's cute. And that's what I said. You know, you know Pops is hanging with his son. They're sitting there kicking the uh, smoking weed and drinking. What is your teaching him? Now? Your som bucking up at you because you don't be You don't see you

as Pops. You see you as one of the homies. This is how we kick it. This is the relationship you have. So you can't be Pops at my homeboy, because Pops is hard a different type of dude. So you see that. Actually you see that. He said these mothers and they'd be like, you know your child is seven, Oh, I can't go nowhere. Every time go out, he calls me where you at? Line where you at? And I'm like, really you let him do that? You do know that's

your son, right? You know that your your boy. The difference because when he gets sixteen, he's gonna be slamming the door in your face. You know that, right, Man, I gotta six year old. And if I leave Papa, if if I dropped me off somewhere, come get me. I'm ready to come home. I feel like and I used to talk about my kids mother's you know, you ain't got another word about you woo to whoop. But they want to get out too now that I'm raising this little dude and norm you know, I had it

for a little while now, so everything stops. The party in, the kicking in and all that ship. But I realized that and I don't have to, you know, sneak out the house and go play party and drinking and all that ship. But I cut that ship out. But man, I know what the funk they're doing through that ship is brong. I got, you know, I got a nine year old bro. I just the first time I had him for this, the first time I had him for

a couple of weeks. And like you said, I used to talk about my baby mothers and ship too, man, But you know I got a whole new I got different kind of respect now, you know what I'm saying. See how much this motherfucker eat. You know what I'm saying. But then I also see that, Yo, my man, you don't really pick up behind yourself right, So that let me know your mam wa do this right like when you're not this, This is when you're not gonna do

this that you get what I'm saying. But you know it's it's it's a great thing when y'all comparents, when that ship working together. You get what I'm saying, You have a whole new respect. And like this dude here, that's nine year old man. He changed He didn't want who really changed my life around? You know what I'm saying. You don't wan't save my life. So that's all I do is hang around kids. Man. That's people ask me, yo,

behind what Jay did to you? Man, I'd be mad running around here this that, and I have to tell him. Bro man, you if I hang around with kids, man, you can't even be mad at nothing. When you're around kids. You ain't even got Yeah, we almost went through the whole interview with Ave mentioned Jay's name, But since you broke, man,

you have a really dope project. Man. And I watched on two the TV right I'm actually watching it for my second time, because you know, sometimes you want to go back through something, right, Um, what inspired you to put off Marcy made? Um? Well, I felt like I just wanted to put my life story. I wanted to tell my life story. You know what I'm saying. Um, it was a process to get to that. Like like I said, um being mad, right, I ain't gonna lie. It was the time, man, I was. I was kind

of past mad. I was enraged, like I really hated them. I was on some hating ship, the whole crew him, game dashed or every because I've done something for all of them. Oh, I looked out for all of them, and that ship ain't get me nowhere, bro, you just get people. Let me give people a little context in case they don't know. Right, all those guys you would put money into the Rocket Fellows situation and everything. Right, I am the foundation of that ship because you was

out there getting money. You was You was the big homie out They give money and Jay was hustling, which at one point, right, so you put money in sixthuation. They pretty much just kind of just left you up. The whole thing. Yeah, man, you know we departed, we we we had our differences and kind of kind of started departing, but not no differences where it was a situation. You get what I'm saying. It didn't get to that

to them, that's got to another level. And it didn't get to that too, where you know, I was picked up for the charges and and then one thing led to another and then niggas just actually left me there. You know what I'm saying that That was my whole argument. Them niggas actually really left me there, like they thought I was gonna end up with life and end up just doing a sucking don diva spread us some ship

like that. But it didn't work out that way, and I ended up back on the street, you know what I'm saying. And when I ended up on the street, like I said, I was in the rage, man, I was. I was in some other ship. That ship was consuming my body. Hate was consuming my body. Like I wake up thinking about these this nigga and ship. You know what he did to me? I wake up thinking about this,

That ship won't leave me. That my only folks focus was on them, and I wasn't that that ship took me into a dark place, just people with the with the what did they exactly due to you. Well, like I said, in time and me, they left me in prison. They actually left me there like we we caught it. I called, I did a federal, I got picked up for a federal charged me Emory and another guy. You know what I'm saying. And this was this was really this is what icing on the cake here right. Me

and Jay has a relationship. So during that process, Jay tells me, Yo, don't worry about it. I've got you. I'll take care of it. Get you out of there. Whatever. And here we are talking right now, I ain't seen him yet. So when I say he left me in there, you know what I'm saying. One on one when they're like a man and man if I say and tell you, bro, I'm gonna do this interview at eleven and I don't show up. You know what I'm saying. It's not that major to you, but it's it's a principle of it.

You get what I'm saying. But this is this is major. You get what I'm saying. Ship was that because there was like your little brother, uh, the one and only you know what I'm saying. One and the friends, friends of his friends, mother's friends just his friends. You know, the whole ordeal, bro, the whole ordeal. Like you one of the first to see his talent to right, Oh definitely. That's why I'm not surprised when he at Like, I

ain't surprised about that part. Man. I knew he was going in at some point, you know what I'm saying. And then look how he got there. Look at this, Look at Reason you doubt. Man, that's my life. That's my life story, Bro, that's what set it off. If you listen to Reasonable Doubt, that's that's my life. That album, that record is about our life, like my lifestyle of living, our lifestyle is getting money, all of that what I'm saying.

And he says that, and he says that in his book when you read the Coded, he said, Yeah, I knew how to wrap, I knew how to rhyme, but I just needed a story to tell and the only story was Reason that and that's what came out Reason litle doubt. You know what I'm saying. But long story shot, Like I mean, these dudes took me to a path of like, you know, it kind of hurts when you put your life on the line. Man. You know what I'm saying like not once not trying, this is your

little brother. I fought for him, like as if that was my little brother. Man, you know what I'm saying. So I never can understand that if even if we had whatever differences or disagreement we had, Man, how could your people do you that way? Yeah? You know what I'm saying. Let me that. Let me ask you this, bro, because you can tell you've grown about past and you're not as angry as you once were. You can tell

it still hurt you more than anything else. If you had the chance to talk to Jake and you think you sit down and have a conversation with him, hell yeah, hell yeah. Well you know, you know, bro, you gotta have a conversation with you. You know when when people ask me just like you mean, what you what do you owe you? What you think you owe you a conversation? M h a conversation. I just told you. You told me, you know, I told you I was gonna do this

show leving o'clock. Bro. If I don't do it and then next time you see me, you don't think I owe you a converse? Yo? Yo yo, what would happen? That's just that's just what you did wrong with him, right, and let it be no, let it be no. We know when that's not what men do, what you do, it's it's not what men do. So yeah, I did

sit down and have a conversation. And you know it's been so long, I don't even think we can go over everything to be able to be like, you know, okay, okay, well this and that in the third it's just to be more about like, well what happens from here? You know what can happen from here that reached stuff from you? Or where have you ever told the Dane read of them dudes? Nah? Bro, nah now? And I ain't pressed, bro, and I ain't mad. You know what I'm saying. Like

I said, I've been there. That ship took me to a dark place. I've been there, and I just learned that being humble, man, it takes you long ways. Be forgiven because that's the whole point right here. You know what I'm saying. Once I started forgiving and forgive those dudes, man, my life just got a hope. It just got way more better. You know what I'm saying. That ship I got to let go that hate, that envy and all that other ship you know what I'm saying, and things

just all my blessing and start coming my way. Bro, I just said, I'm gonna tell you something. Don't think he ain't thinking about you most depen. You don't spend that much time as I was looking at how close you guys were, Because I'm gonna tell you this. I got homeboys like world with like that back in Ohio, And it doesn't matter if I don't talk to them for two years we get back together. Door. That's something that love is still there, that same love is still there. Dog.

So you can't tell me he not think about you, like, hey, hey listen, I gotta listen. You can listen to the music, he replies, and talk back to everything, like a lot of people think I'd be like, Yo, you're talking. I'm not talking to myself. Bro. Everything I'm talking about he he talked about on records. It's I'm saying he replies to everything, mostly about people be like, Yo, what are you still doing this? My man? Then you just listen to the Drake album. He told you how he felt you.

You know, they just listen to four four four? Did you listen to that? Did you listen to these records. I ain't been just talking, bro, We've been going back and forth for twenty five years. My dude. You know what I'm saying. It's music and that gets it's all buried in the music and everything. Man. You know what I'm saying. That last that last situation where he said that, you know on the um on Drake album, and it

shows you, Yo, he watched Marcy Made. If you listen, If you watch Marcy Made and then you listen to what he just said on Drake album, he'd tell you like, Yo, I sat watch Marty Made. Mm hmm. Human. That's what I'm telling you. He's thinking about you. He was obviously, Bro. He human and he knows what it is. You know what I'm saying. And when he do ship like that, it's all up to me because you know, it helps

me out. You know what I'm saying. It don't make me feel crazy now now I know I ain't crazy. Now you arens to me you feel I'm saying it clarifies that that's his therapy, you know what I'm saying. Releasing talking to me through music, I guess and you know what it deals sometimes man, I'm pretty sure he's in a way more mature place. You know, both of you guys are light years ahead from where you were before when you'all was messing with each other. Right, both

of y'all in a different plays. So I'm thinking, man, sometimes it's hard to just say I'm sorry, especially someone you love. Sometimes it's just a little bit of pride and it's like you don't know how to come back, like man, I know I'd be the wrong. So listen. So so you have a conversation and you say, yo, you know what, man, I I don't have an answer. You know, ship you know, and I Nigga can understand. You say, Yo, man, I wasn't thinking at all. You

know what I'm saying. Ship this way, this way, this way, That's what I said. I'm not looking for no excuses and all that ship sit down and being mad and be like yo, man, you know funked up. So through all of your contents, you don't have a way to get to him on the phone. Nah said that ain't who I am. I've done that. But you know you ain't gonna go You know, you know your your character.

Don't perceive to you to be no dick chase, no no no to be chasing no nigger around for no you fel I'm saying is just to have a conversation and not not pity and patter around the situation and to say, man, jell us, dude, this is my number. Get at me now. If he don't, then if we understand, we know what it is. I stopped that a long time ago, bro, like you know what. You know what, man, I'm not. I'm not chasing nothing. I could get right up on him that that's no problem. I could get

right up on him, but for what. You know what I'm saying. For what if he ain't ready and he don't want to break that ship to go wrong. It could go wrong, and I'm cool legs to me if he don't say nothing and care not that I ever want to speak to me again. I'm cool with that too. My story is out there and my side is out there. You know what I'm saying. You know what I mean. The other the culture of the people is the ones that's saying, man, why this dude wolts to that's with you?

I said it beat them. They talk all that, you know, black excellence, black love, We should do all that, nigga. I'm here right, they don't be us. It ain't us, sweet where we you know exactly where to find us. He told you that on the Drake album. I know where you're at. It don't be us, man, it be their egos and whatever the situation is, it's cool because honestly, man, you can look at it like this man and be like, you know what, Man, I ain't want you to be

a part of this. Man, this ain't for you, mom, This ship I do over here, this ship that's going on here and for you, Mom. That's why I ain't trying to bring you over here. Man, right, you understand saying, And it's up to you to be a man excepted reject that. But at the end of the day, you don't know what what's going on over there, and the nigga might not want you to know, like yo, but I just can can you be all right with me

just telling you this ain't for you? Knowing what type of person I was anyway I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, Like I have to keep putting. I had to give myself different perspectives of why why? Why? God? When the why God? You know? Because God, my ship is wrote you know, and this is where God wanted to be where I'm at right, you know what I'm saying.

And when you and you see what's going on over there, and the more you see what's going over there, you start to understand, like, Yo, you know what you had a different name. I'm glad this fault did it go this way? Right? You know what I'm saying. That don't mean he happy over there. A lot of people think what you think because you what you see and what he got means he happy over there. You know what

I'm saying. I'm good. You know what I'm saying. Um, I also did a I did a joint saying, like you know, it's possibly he saved my life, bro, because I wouldn't you know, if he hadn't looked out for me and took me with him when I was back then, when at a time where my mind was out fucked all that up, Definitely I would have been I would have sucked it up. I would have been on Rihanna. I would have been on all of them. I sucked it up. I would have did some nigga ship, you know,

like a motherfucker. Really, you know what I mean? Yeah, I would have sucked it up. I was one of them while niggers. If I wasn't, I'd have sucked it all up. And I definitely would have sucked it up if I would have got over there and seeing the chick that he dealt with the police chick, you know, not to throw this off, But I would have been like, no, why we can't do that. Oh, I would have kill I hout to kill somebody, somebody to kill me. All of the beats that he had. If I was there,

one of my biggest nigga son. And you think him and Jay like each other, how is that gonna work for me? You know what I'm saying. I was not gonna work for me now, Nonah, the situations with him and Nas, all that ship on, all that drama. Nah, I come from a different men. I come from different That ship would have turned out different. So I'm blessed times. Man. You never mean, I'm gonna tell you. I'm a firm

believer man that God is the designer of everything. Man, So sometimes and stuff just don't happen out of his will because he knows what's gonna happen. He probably did say your life though, That's what I'm saying. You know, you know, we even even even down, even down to leaving me in jail, feel me, because mind you, I fought with a fucking caught, a pointing attorney, a federal child. I thought, with it, I've done that ship on my own.

So I just say that. Say, if Jay would have helped me and came in with some job, some legal teamship, that's sit probably would have hurt me. I probably would have sat back and let them do what they do. And they probably have came and went with a good number, how about ten, because I would have took it no and that these dudes are professionals. They're gonna tell me what's right. I ain't gonna read the case fucking you know tennis good? Uh, you know what I'm saying. So

that probably would have hurt me. They had been like where you get the money for this act? You know what I mean? So, I mean I went through that stage of you know, why why why? You know? And I stopped blaming him when I see different perspectives. One thing for sure, I knew who was God when I was sitting in that cell waiting on Jay, going please, James, please, man,

like he was God. That ship wasn't happening. But when I asked, got on my knees and say God, Man, listen, Man, get me out of this one, and you ain't gonna work nothing else. And look where I ended up. So every time after that happened, Bro, my first go to is God, Bro. And everything I prayed for after that I got, from getting out of jail, getting a good job, having a kid, putting my movie out. Everything I got I prayed for, man asked for. That's how I know

he can't stop it. Where you know what the good words and then a good word always says man, put your faith in God, not man, because man will let you down all the time, right man. And that's where I was lost that man. I was lost there. You know what I'm saying. That's why I tell you about that hate. Man. God wasn't gonna bless me, and so I got that ship about of me. I had to ask God, yo, look, get this out of me, man,

because you know in my everyday thoughts. Just then do something to get this out of You know what God did, And that's why I say, when you pray for something, you gotta ask God specifically what you want. God gave me that little kid, God said, you want to stop thinking about them? Here? Take that? Take that right, that's what you're gonna be your more most important phobus. Man. So now that the movie is are um, I know it's on t WTV, is on any other platform? Man,

right now, it's on two. It's going to be um and it's doing well. Man. That was that. That's like, that's a worldwide platform right now, and that's a big look for us to be. Is the biggest on screening platform on the planet right now though, just about yeah, just about man. And it's doing good. Um, the numbers are looking good. It's doing good people now, you know,

maybe because it's free. That's what's up. You know, I appreciate it, but you know, and I definitely appreciate the supporters from the beginning that paid for MONSTI made because they when the gout there without them, you know, that's what that's the good thing about the Internet. The black ball is not possible days. You can't stop the bumper. It's like they say in fact that the bump rus

cannot be started. You cannot, Yeah, you definitely, man, you can't stop with the streets of the one You can't stop what God got. What God got for me, somebody can stop it. Man. Look man, and for me to walk around these streets in different cities and people walk up to me, man, say, keep doing what you're doing. I love Your story is dope. You know what I'm saying. It don't seem I to you that no major dudes in the industry can't check it from me and go, Yo,

what you wanna do with that? It don't see y'all, this ain't no little story. Yeah yeah, but to me, this is this is the independence. See everything they're doing to me, how hard it is for Marcy made to make they went through it. I'm just going through my channels, all right. Cool y'all wanna sunk with it. Cool y'all wanna funk with it. But you know how to get when they get all the way up. Then you get in that room. They're all in there like yo, what man?

I was like, Nah, I don't funk with y'all like that, right, You know they want you to put on them sheep clothes. Man, They want you to put on the sheep clothes. Real man, So two old people. Man, I didn't want to get at you where they can find you with THO. Man. Man, you can always find me on Marsy made series. I g you know what I'm saying, Um, that's all. I'm always on that man, so and I'm always engaging with my people's Man. You can DM me um anytime. Man.

I appreciate if you guys to get you whoever listening, y'all can share that Massy made um on on to be man. Watch it. Man. It's a good look because you you can learn something from that. Man. It ain't no old bitter situation. Man, just look at it like you can learn something from that. Man. And I gotta tell people, man for sure. Man, like long story show, you can do something for somebody for a thousand times

as you can say yes, yes a thousand times. But the moment you tell them no, man, the Mothercker's can turn your back ron in a second. None of that should have count, you know what I mean. And that's how I look at my story, All the sacrifices that I made, all the sacrifices that my family made. That ship wasn't worth nothing to people, you know what I mean? That that's how easy it is that people will change on you, you know. So, Yeah, Man, you know the difference.

You know, God is good. So I see you going a long way man. Just you know I had a rough time with that. But listening to you, man, I think you got your parities right. And man, good luck to you, brother, and I appreciate that man coming from a g like you. Man. Much respect to you, bro, and uh and uh you know what you put in the game, man. I've seen you and on several plat phones, man, and it defeats me game. And I respect that, man, and I definitely respect you still for having me on

the show. Man. This is dope, man, any type of way y'all want to chop it up about anything East coast wise and West coast wise. Man, Sure we don't get you back like I told you when you was worried about getting Man's the same question as I said, No, Bro, we've way different anybody else. We have conversations, so we don't do interviews. Ride. Yeah, it's decent, man, because you get the chop. You get to know what the person really is. And other than this ain't scripted. This should

come off the gut. We we have conversations that we want people to know who you are, your story, your life is bad. Man. Your whole history with Jay is just one little, one little friend in fabric of your time and your existence. You feel what I mean, it's not your whole embodiment. I want people to know we ain't got a wife outside of you, right right, yeah, exactly. You know that's a whole another level that they don't know. Some people think I live and breathe and eat this ship, man,

but you know I'm outside of that. Man. I'm a parent, hard working you know, I'm a carpenter by trade. Man. I'm out here with y'all. Like that's what's that's unique about here with you. But I'm not gett you, right, you know what I'm saying. We appreciate that. You're gonna hear dog and we go, man, we go. Don't let you terming because I know it's played over on the East Coast. We appreciate you next week, man, I appreciate you. Man. Thanks a lot, man, Peace out, man, brother man. Whatever