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a break and go to court today. You know, he's working with the court, so, uh, it's just me and the day. I figured it was a good time for me to bring my brother in law here and and have him talk. I got, I got two guys actually here. I want to introduce you to that I call positive black Man, and this is what I do this show for versts. Is Harry. Harry, you want to introduce yourself

to the people. Okay, my name is Harry Jackson. I'm the CEO and founder of Jackson Family Human Services, and U'm here today to talk about our business and how we're working with kids and giving people in our area access to different resources that they would have not gotten unless they win you know, was exposed to it right right, and and when I when I heard his story. First, let me give you a little background on it. The manage is not even thirty five years old yet, his

wife is not even thirty five years old yet. Yet they take care of how many kids? Would you say? Okay, so we take care of eight kids, and um, we also have a family home. They care at the house where we have anywhere from nine extra kids to kids in one household. So um, we're blessed. Imagine that though, but they find he's also a firefighter. Uh, but they make time to take care of other people, other people kids were as well as they own at the same time.

And it was it was so crazy listening to and talk to me and and listening to the things that he's he has a let's say, accomplished and ain't even thirty five years old. You know, y'aut there taking care of kids where it ain't too many of us out there doing it. And now that he's starting his own company, you know, to further and to get more kids. Imagine twenty one kids in your house at one time. I couldn't do it, and a lot of us wouldn't do it.

But I wanted him on this show so he can so he can elaborate on how he's doing it and why he's doing it. And he just opened his company and I'm gonna let Harry tell you how how you doing this? Okay? So what we are is we're a U a behavioral supportive services company, and we have a daycare where we take care of kids that UM in

some situations had hard time being placed at other day cares. UM. Some of our kids have their from types of behavior and they're misunderstood and we typically UM work with them. We have a board certified analysis, which is equivalent to a psychiatrist will say and UM, we believe that there's no bad kids. We don't turn away any kids. We will bring any kid in even if he was not successful at two or three daycares. UM. A lot of

times people are not trained to deal with behaviors. A lot of times people don't have the patients to deal with any type of kid that's not you know perfectly, I mean according to society being perfect. UM. So that's

what we do for the daycare side. UM. As far as UM our behavioral supportive services company, we are, we send behavioral therapists out to different families homes and we train families on different types of behaviors and UM it's very very important to our community and in the consumers.

We serve to understand that sometimes when people have different behaviors that people are saying, like, let's any for instance, if you had a kid and he was in school and he was getting in trouble, getting in fights, there's only so many reasons why that kid is doing that.

And what we would do as a company is we will come out with our behavioral analysis UM analysts, sorry, and she will do about a six to twelve hour observation and in an observation, she's going to take an account for what the behaviors that UM, this child is exhibiting, teenager child, anyone up to twenty four UM. And we try to figure out why you think you can shave a kid that's tuning for years old. It gets harder as a kid gets older. But we can't because what

we do is we we target the behaviors. We create a whole behavior plan. Okay, in our in our company, we have a behavior m b c B, a board certified analysis which I said has been a lot of time in school, which is equivalent to almost a psychiatrist almost, I mean not exactly the same psychiatrists deal more with um the way you think, and medications and things of

that nature. What we do is we take that B C. B A. She is very educated, and then we have a master's level consultant underneath her who also helps out. And then underneath that you have a clinical trainer will alongside a clinical trailer, and then you also have behavior therapists.

This whole group as a team, and this team will believe me, we get deep into it, but we pretty much look at the behavior, we look at the family environment, community environment, and we come up with a plan to help that child, and we will target the behavior and we'll teach that child coping mechanisms. You know, you actually believe that, Yes, I believe we can save in most cases,

we can save a kid. Yes, we can stop that kid from you know, because a lot of times in our community kids are misdiagnosed, and the misdiagnosed can be anything from getting kicked out of school. They'll just say you're a bad kid. You know, that's how I go. You kicked out of school, sent to jail. Okay, not be able to have relationships, and it starts at a

young age. You know, you might have a kid that might have some type of too much energy, let's say, and that kid might be suffering from or you know, have a real diagnosis and never ever get it treated at a young age, so therefore he goes to kindergarten. You could have shaved me just shaped answer. Let's go back to when I was in the third grade and I got a major issue, family issues, and I go to school. I'm fighting my teachers at this time, I'm

taking butcher knives to school. I'm just a bad kid. You honestly think or you would take your time out to help that kid. Yeah, so, James, the real whole focus on our company and someone that's exactly like you, you know, because it's more to it than just you doing that. No behavior comes without some type of a seeding, and that the seedy means why it's happened. So we

would have have come into your life, okay. Our analysis would have analyzed the whole situation, and if your family needed let's say, family therapy, we could have pointed you in a in a direction to where family therapists could have came in and we would oversee that. Okay, if you need to behavioral intervention, we would have created a plan to stop you, to figure out why are you fighting your teacher. See, people don't just want to fight their teacher. You don't. It's just not how it go.

Like you know, typically kids want to please adults. Okay, So I can just guess a lot of times you do stuff, you would have did stuff for attention. And the more attention you get kids, I'm like, oh man, he with the business. He that's a bad man like And a lot of times you would do more and more because the more attention you getting, the more acceptance in our community. A lot of times it was raised wrong.

I need to say it like, it's just how it is, and that's what that's what everybody needs to raw un cut of where we're at today. You know what I'm saying. And that's one of the reasons why I try to do what I do here to reach out to the kids that are like me and they don't have to be like me, they don't have to grow up like me. And that's why you here today to say I got I gotta visit and I focused on kids like you, and and it was a must and and if we're

gonna do it, let's do it right. And my whole thing is, man, I want people to understand that just because you're a badass kid today don't mean you could change. And and look where I'm sitting there right now. You know what I'm saying. I don't went to Australia September. I'll be in Scotland. You feel me? So this has changed me dramatically all the way around a one hundred so um, waking up and not wanting something and I'm like, damn,

I can't get it. How what hustle am I choose in the day, It's what what I put on, how I'm feeling. I'm gonna go get it to get that. I don't have to do that no more. So I'm I'm loving this. And how do people m get to you? Is it just Victorville or y'all? How far do this? Okay? So um, right now we're we're in the We're predominantly in Victorville, but we service the whole in an empire. Um. We also are partner with behavior Genius, who serves everyone

from Ontario all the way down to l a okay. UM. Typically if if you want to to you know, get services or have I mean we can even if we can serve you and your located some worlse if you even called us, emailed us, send us a message on Jackson Family Services on um Instagram, we can point you in the right direction. Because a big part of our company is and this is not something that we're charging for,

is we give people access to resources, okay. And the resources a lot of times can be family maryor's counseling, drug addition counseling. Okay. We have a huge network and there's so many acts resources out here for everyone. It's just a lot of times we don't know where to go get those resources from. So UM definitely you can reach our company at Jackson Family Jackson Family Human Services dot com okay, or you can reach us at Jackson

Family Services at instagram, um dot com. I don't know that's where we got you here to let people and from real and everything. This is this is information that I think everybody in our community neighborhood is need because if you think that your son or your daughter, but it's up to the parents first and foremotion to get that here but a kid. If they don't want their kid, I'll run in the street, going out the window with Tenny eleven o'clock that night, hanging out with the hommies.

You gotta be a responsible parent and don't want your kids in the situation such as I was in and everybody else. And one of the biggest things that we do is we do parents training, because if we implement a full plan and the parents are not on board, then it will not work. We look at the whole family and community environment as a whole. But sometimes you don't need the parent for the kid to get in. The kid wants to hear someone tell him that ain't right.

Yes you can do this, and you don't have to be just because your daddy whooped your ass a certain kind of way. You don't have to be a bad kid. I waited for that all my life, but I didn't get it. So I'm gonna kick his ass because my daddy will mind. And I continued on the wrong path. There's a lot of kids that don't don't ain't gonna listen to the parents. But if you got that kid, that's what you need. Those mentors like that brother over,

those motivational speakers like that brother right there. Good as to your chaine to have him talking to these young kids and let them kids know, Man, I've been here and this is what it is. You don't want to do that. And you know, and I'll segue into this. You know, my cousin here when we were about let's say eighteen nineteen, I remember talking to him telling him, you know, if you were to take the same effort you put into game banging and you know, being out

here in these streets, you can be the President United States. Bro. That's just how smart he is, you know, just just being serious, always on time, geral tolerance type of person. And there's a lot of people like that in our community that jail dead, homeless on drugs, you know, and that's a whole issue within itself. But it's very very important for us to try to work with kids when they're younger, you know. And I don't think you can reach your tunity for you know, he's gonna have to

reach yourself. Yes, uh, we're giving them already set in my ways to where ain't no counselor's gonna help me because I ain't gonna listen to nobody that don't know me, make me lay down and listen, or just tell my life story. It wouldn't work. It didn't work in the third grade when I day I had to see a psychiatrist, you know. And and my whole thing was drawing these squares, triangles, octagons and all that. I put each and every last one of them, the pieces on the piece of paper

and took the pencil and traced them. Motherfucker's I'm smart enough to do that. That's a genius to me though. But you know what I'm saying, not sitting there trying to draw a start. I'm not gonna do that. I've said it on the table and I traced it in kindergarten, put your hand on the paper and just going money, So I learned it. So getting these kids and and and I mean, is it? Is it? Do they have

to spend money? Do they? So we we do not charge their parents for anything other than daycare services maybe, but for behavioral supportive services. No. UM typically is going to be paid through your medical insurance. Okay, um, how it? And if you don't have medical insurance then we were walking you through the process of getting medical insurance and itself. Yeah, it's it's medical insurance out here right now for everybody out of it. Though, what I'm saying is you don't

have no excuses to bring your child and to get help. No, it's just help out for yourself. Yes, yes, most definitely, it's it's help out here for you and um and I'll say it over and over again. You know, you gotta take the first step, you know. And I've and I've seen twenty four year olds change. But a lot of times we're just giving them the tools, and sometimes the people realize, like, this is not how I want to live, you know, Like for me perfectly, you know,

I always want to strat out of fence. I wanted to be halfway in the streets. I wanted to I thought as a kid, I was gonna be the biggest drug dealer in the world. That's just what I thought as a kid, you know. But what ends up how happening, is exposure. You know. I was exposed to so many different type of people and I realized, like, that ain't the life I want to live, you know. But I always wanted to bring people up with me because what happens is being a firefighter, which I'm no longer working

for the fire department. I'm working for myself, my own company, because I realized, yeah, I'm doing fine, but I look down and I don't see nobody else that looked like me or resembles me, think like me in my circle. So what I by me come create my own company. I can hire, educate. I have to go back to my community and help because there's no other reason than all of us coming up than just me. You know, show let everybody know how we can get in touch

with Harry. And now how long you've been married to your wife? First, we've been married. I think we've been married for about six years. Six years. Yeah, you might have asked you years four years old. I'm for unfortunate, you know. Um, the wife I have is you know, she's very supportive. If I come up with a plan, she's gonna do everything she can to help us get there. You know, Um, I thought I was up and I would tell you like I thought I was up until I got me a black woman in my life that

was real black woman. You know, it's a lot of females out here, and I'm not saying everybody's not just not for everybody. You know, when you have a true partner in your life. Your life will change. Well, y'all are not what I say, materialistic people, and y'all strive off each other, and that's what makes a relationship work. Y'all was actually friends before y'all got married. I mean, it ain't too many of us. I'm talking about Black people that that's in a relationship like that, that that

can honestly say they love their wife. You know, the average black motherfucker get married and I know this. You're gonna stay married for two years until you get tired, and then you're going about your business. But but, but, and then. I just want to say to you that that you are man. You are you are somebody to to to the neighborhood. That ain't the word I'm looking for.

Very important to thank you much. I appreciate it. No, I appreciate you because if we had you, it wouldn't be no me, wouldn't be no bullshit, it would we we all be good and and thank god we had the resources that we got now, such as you and your wife opening your extending your arms and your homes to two kids y'all don't even know, and helping them. That that that gives us a chance that helps us stop little cats like myself growing up to be idiots,

assholes or whatever they getting. They actually got an opportunity and a chance not to be taught. And this ain't to be racist, but when I when I had a side chadres, when I went to see the site, every last one I had was white. This is nobody on my level that understands where I'm coming from. Now we had that. You see, you see what I'm now we have that, and man, I applaud you one hundred. I want you to tell everybody where they can go. I want you to if they got a number that they

can call anybody he's just starting out. Anybody in the in and Empire that have UH and need help with the children called Harry. Mr Jackson, you got a man just just when you meet the man you see and and and this is a young man, this man. I'm twenty years older than this young man and yet to have a hit on my shoulder like this dude. Man, That's why I have to applaud it. So give everybody your number, your information. So our phone number is UM

you can call us Jackson Family Human Services. Our phone number is four or four two three to seven nine one into. You can reach me at h Jackson at Jackson Family Human Services dot com. You can reach us on Instagram at Jackson Family Services at instagram dot com. I don't know how to receive where once you call the number, and I'm I'm gonna call. You have a whole staff of people who can um. Once we get a call, we don't turn anybody away. We will help you in any way we possibly can. I mean, we

overrestend ourselves to everyone. Okay, and that's white, black, Asian, Latino, old young give us a call and we'll see what we can do for you, right right, and and and man, to my pleasure, Harry Brown his cousin here today and when when he got out the car. In the car, Harry was telling me about this guy. This guy did five years and y well, I'm gonna let him explain his story. Harry, that young man communis so give me

a second. Let this guy come and sit down. And I'm telling you, this is man, this is not my doing. I didn't know this was gonna happen. I didn't know what was going on. I had Harry, but to to my edition, this young brother coming here and man he's another black young man story that needs to be told. I think, so let everybody know who you is. I think against the chronicle world. My name is R. C. Or Oar Salon. I go by R. C. R C Osborne, right,

And he was telling me outside you did time? Yeah, I did about uh about five years by the time I was fourteen to twenty. And I see why now now, now, this, this, this is gonna be the killer part for everybody such as myself, that say we can't do it. I didn't have no choices. I don't We don't have excuses for where we want to go in life. And this brother is a prime example. What what tell us a little

life history of getting out of jail after five years? Okay, well I was, you know, I was running the streets to San Diego, involved in different gangs and activities, not different gangs of gang activities. Uh. You know, come from a broken home. You know a story that's that's that's so so familiar. So what made you change? Uh? You know I didn't change right away. I actually uh, well, you know, once I got out of wire, I tried to stay away from the politics, but moving right back

into the neighborhood when I was nineteen. It kind of sucked me back in. So I end up doing a couple of county bids and they're actually going to prison

for about two years. And you know what really made me change was, honestly was my my my family, you know, particularly my nieces, and uh, just being tired of being in jail, just feeling that need to change your life for your family, like yeah, well, you know I had never felt like, like me, feel in love for another human like that deep, you know, my nieces, and I was seeing my nieces being born, not not being there

like I never felt that before. So I was able to go through those whole you know, consecutive years because I didn't really feel nothing. I didn't really have no, no, no attachment to anything. So um, it was it was

two parts. It was. It was me finally you know, starting to recognize my feelings for something, and then just you know, being in prison and seeing the politics like you know, like like, uh, I was set up by the cops, you know, for me and one of my enemies to basically kill each other, and he talked some sense in me. I was like, yeah, we're not about to do this. And uh, well, y'all like face to

face pistol up. Yeah, yeah, well we got we had we had got into it, and they sent me to the whole and then pretty much when I got back, for some reason, I was in the same same class that he was in and that ain't supposed to happen, you know, but I had was getting into it with the staff. I was young and hot headed, so that I guess they wanted to see us go at it. So they put us in a in a room with nice and and all that, you know what I mean, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

they're doing to you. So I was so young, I didn't know what was going on. I just knew I wasn't about to go out. And this dude was like he was like thirty thirty two, you know, and I'm and here I am like one. He pretty much he said, you see what's going on? You know? Yeah? And you know, you know, so I think that brother because um, you know that that that was a turning point. You know his name, I don't know, I just know it. We just gonna shout that brother man he didn't take this

man life. Yeah, yeah, I don't know his name, and I don't know if I want to put him out there, like, yeah, but I know his gang name, but I don't I don't know, Yeah, I don't know his name. But so it was that. And then I always had a desire to play basketball since I was young and go to college. It was crazy, even though I was you know, any institutions, I always they dreamed and and kind of visualize myself on the court. Well, day dreaming, you actually made your

dream come true. Yeah. Yeah, So that's what I did. As soon as I got out of prison, you know, I and I educated. That's that's the most important part. I educated myself. I read books, I learned about my history. I learned that, you know, we just don't come from slavery, you know what I mean. I learned about my heritage, you know what I mean, a stolen legacy, you know.

And and and once I pretty much became familiar with myself, and I got to know myself, and I got to experience the emotions that I that I just you know,

kind of put to the curve for so long. It was then when I was able to grow and and and take take my life seriously, you know, and not by denouncing anything, you know, it's just but just kind of showing you you have to denounce, especially and and I think that's where your man who had come from, and showing them that you've been a man and responsible of yourself. It's to denounce. I don't care how motherfucking

choose to use it. And I use the word motherfucker loosely. No, but I'm being honest, I'm and and And the reason why I'm saying that it's because if you're letting these cats know, these people know that you're working with the homies, if you let them know I'm done, it's pretty much denouncing that I'm not just ain't me no more. So you have to really give that part up. You can't be a halfast crook. No, you can't get a halfast homie, you know, So you gotta be done with it. Yeah,

and you know I'm done with it. It's just the fact that, you know, I never wanted to be done with where I came from there, not necessarily the gang part, but tied to the culture because so many of us we get rich, we get smart, we get money, we get married, and we move away and we forget rather mentally or physically, and we don't we can't. It's like a disconnect. That money becomes a disconnect, that position becomes a disconnect, you know, and that that's what I mean

by that. Like and like you said, it was an eternal force, you know, battling like oh you know that that ego in that pride. But yeah, So after I got out of prison, you know, like four months later, I was enrolled in college City College, San Diego, you know, started playing basketball. I got a scholarship, stayed at City for two years, a scholar athlete, you know. UM shout out to coach Mitch a City College. He took a chance on me. He didn't you know, and I just

had raw talent. I know how to set a pick properly, I didn't know. He just throw me and getting there, you know the type deal. And um. And then that led to a scholarship out to uh A private university of private Christian university in Oklahoma. So I did about three years out there and obtained my bachelor's in behavioral science, you know, came back to San Diego. Um, by the grace of God and some some help from my towards Adrian ascanise Um you know, Maria senor um no la

Bride Butler Bride. We you know, they helped me get into a master's program called CBB Community Base Block in San Diego State, and I took it seriously and I earned a you know, a m A and education and so um from there I got you know, that took me different places, you know, helping helping that colleges are interning, to becoming an academic counselor advisor, to eventually teaching my

own classes. So um, so you're teaching like like actually, yeah, actually teaching, Yeah, actually got a actually got a professor uh title, associate professor title, you know, going into these classes at that point in time in my life, and um and and teaching you know, teaching college prep one on one, teaching transfer, you know, teaching community college kids are student there. So do you go around telling people you could be what you want to be and didn't

let them know where you came from? I mean you you're a prime example what we need to be, uh, what we need to understand about ourselves. I don't care how bad we've been, I don't care what we've done. The only person can fix that is God itself. But where down here I can make it better? And and half of us don't don't think like that because we don't know. Half of us don't understand because we have no one in our ear to teach us where. Man, you could be anything you want to be. You know

what I'm saying. So yeah, I know I feel that is good. Man. You you went from prison two teaching. This is where we need to understand. This is where we need to go. And that's a cold asked message for anybody. You know, we don't have We as black men, do not have any excuses to fail just because we felt. We can't blame that motherfuck over there. We can't blame it, say its slavery fucked us up. We didn't even live

the ship. For number one, what we had is, man, we got to get better with ourselves and and get into our kids and teaching our kids a better way. And then guys like you and my I mean you and myself that went through it can come and sit down at the round table and say, okay, this I had enough. This is what I'm doing now. You educated yourself by reading books. You know, It's it's crazy that only some of us get it. You feel me and and man, it's a good thing that that you came today.

I wouldn't even expecting this, y'all. I want to I swear to God, I wouldn't expecting this. To get a brother that's been on that level and can sit here next to me and say, man I did five years, did I d in two years? Then down I had enough? And then he could sit here and say his education took him places, you know what I'm saying. At that age, and at that time, after doing prison time, they tell you can't you can't get a job after prison, which was kind of true trying to be a security guard.

After you get out of prison, they're gonna give you ninety days and they're gonna fire your ass. That's all you got is ninety days. So you're gonna have to keep doing it or you're gonna go to a warehouse. But man, I really, I really really appreciate that, and I want everybody to know it's a whole lot of us out there that's trying to get that education, that didn't give up, that that that got mentors, that that's helping other people, you know what I'm saying. So it's

it's it's like that paid forward ship. Let's do that that's what That's what I'm trying to do. And I know you're doing that. You're talking to kids. I know you've been boy, you're so blessed. It's pathetic. And and us as black man need to grab a grip, grab a hole to what we are, understand who we are become in You're not just a man when you turned eighteen and twenty. We're not men because we don't understand what it's about, what it what it means to be

a man. I got a brother over here, he understand what it what it means should be a man. And here I am fifty five and didn't understand I'm a man. You know what I'm saying. I went looking at it like that. But this is where we gotta get our little brothers on. This is where we gotta get our little sisters on. We gotta stop applying our little sisters, paying them twenty dollars to twerk. We gotta man all of this bullshit. We degrade ourselves. Ain't nobody helping us

do the ship. We're doing it to ourselves. Man, And I appreciate you to sit down and just really say where you came from. It ain't everybody business, but it's business. It ship that everybody should know. You know what I'm saying. I mean, this guy talked people. It's kind of funny, yeah, but you know I really that's the hammer I hit home, like you can do anything that you put your mind to.

And you know you hear it when you're young, right, but it's just like so repetitive you start thinking like, oh that that's just another slogan like Nike, you just do it. But I really believe that. And not only do I believe it, but I preached that, you know, whatever wherever I'm at, I let the the young, the young kids, young students. I let even older people older than me um to know that your past don't define you, that that's just that's just something that you know you

went through. And so I don't let none of my homeboys are none of my family, are not none of my friends. I should say, take that skategoat because so many people ask me how do I do it? That's amazing and here I am this whole. Don't get me wrong, it was hard times. I don't through so many emotions trying to get through to where I was at, but it was relatively easy. I'll share that with you. It was relatively easy. I had a passion, I had a real passion, and I was doing what I loved, you

know what I mean. I never went to high school, never went to high school, just straight out and I was playing basketball, which helped me. I was doing what I loved and everything fell in line. And that's so and that's that's just my message, you know. So some of these classes, I also taught classes of like restorative

justice class to formally incarcerated students. Right, So they put a like at a college called Maracoasta, we kind of put a program together to targeting students who have been formally incarcerated from eighteen to forty and they're giving them the tools to succeed, because education is a cold, cold piece of work if you used the right way. Yeah.

So that that's what I'm on now, and I'm more into, um, you know, trying to motivate and speak, motivational speaking, trying to make my own lane and that um and that yeah, in that lane, trying to make my own lane. And so do you go to the to the to the back to the neighborhood to see if you can help one of the homies. Uh, get out of his situation. Let them know that this ain't what you. You don't have to do. Yeah, man, I still stay in San Diego.

I still stay in the city of San Diego. Only time I moved away as when I was when I went to Oklahoma. Okay, I'm always around. I didn't talk that San Diego City College right in the hardest San Diego. You know you're a young cat too. Man, I'm trying to these young cats coming in there is alway educated and ship. I don't want to ask you how old years, but I know you're under thirty thirty five. You know your fault. No, no, no, I'm not younger than that. Yeah,

y'all about the same age. Yeah, okay, well yeah, that's my cousin. And he told me, you know, he told me I was kind of dabbling, dabbling in different things and uh, while all my path and he told me, if I don't use my purpose, God gonna take me off. God gonna take me off this earth. Oh man, that's the cold thing. And that's true. That's always stuck with me. And you know, and one thing you learned, you can't take everybody with you. Everybody ain't gonna get your Uh,

you can't take care of everybody. That if Man, God, God got a message for all of us. And you know, you just gotta know when he's using you. You know what I'm saying. You realize he using you. Harry realized that he has a purpose and and his passion and his love is for kids, not just his own kids, his what they all he is. I see how you interact with him. Everybody in that house is is his is his kid and it ain't too many, which I

said earlier. We need to get back to that. We need to learn how to love and take care of each other instead of fighting and killing each other, you know what I'm saying. And if we get a bunch of a bunch of y'alls, a bunch of young men with their head on that, that should I say to get out there. If they get in one car and just roll to certain places and speak on it, then we're good. I think we need to reach uh the juvenile hall system. Having them kids is acting for help. Yeah,

you know what I'm saying. But they won't let me up in there with my record, They not even they won't even I tried. I was in there for a second, and then the person that brought me here almost got fired. And and and that's the cool thing about it. Right now, I've been out of prison since and it's still something that this California won't allow me to do. Man, you know what I'm saying. They let me go to Australia

though they slipped up. But but seriously, though, your your your your history, your past history shouldn't even matter if if you're doing the things you're doing, it's this is me now. It doesn't matter what I did. I paid for that, So society tell you right now today, I don't care if you went to prison or not. It ain't your dad is not paid. And they won't let you forget it. And that's the cool thing about our system about us about black men. You get a record,

they ain't letting it go. And that's why I hopped in education because they ain't. They aren't discriminating there. I mean, it's you know, it could be fixed. It's got his ups and downs and problems with every other institution. But you hopping there, man. They came and from when they came Tony, you your your your bachelor's degree. They can

deny your associates. They can't deny what you've done. They can't going to different places, just like you weren't gonna trying to go into a facility and then your background, your check come, Oh no, he can't get in here. Yeah. What I did in the past is the past. I paid for my I paid my debt. And you know they don't see it that way. And that's why we still have problems getting and trying to move forward to the go to the next level, because they still got

his handcuffed and half of half of us. It's just on some fucking it don't matter. And I'm speaking about me too, because I was like, man, I'm out of prison, and what's that the shie night? What's that? I gotta get a job. I got a family, I got kids, so a certain job. Then they fired you after that ninety days. You know what I'm saying, Uh, I was. I was a security guard with my own pistol. Y'all ain't got to give me no pistol. I'll be out of here en night. But I had my own goddamn pistel.

I wouldn't stupid. I ain't gonna walking around nobody building all night and around that creepy ship what I want, so just to say that they don't they My my past kept coming up every everywhere and everything that I did, and then it frustrates you. It frustrated me, so it made me give up saying funk that selling dope was easier, you know, on a new drug ship and taking from others get what I wanted was easier. So I don't have to deal with these people. The only person I

had to deal with is the police. And that's some catch me if you can ship and we wind up back where we're at the lady are gonna around and get caught. You know, It's funny, man, I have that mentality. And I was actually trying to change my life when I got out of y like mentally, but it didn't work. And I had that same mentality like well I'm gonna do this, and I ended up on the bus to prison with my dad, shockle with my dad. We went to prison with me and my dad went to prison

the same on the same bus. That make me think, damn pops in prison with your something. Man. I was just so happy to be going to prison, honestly, like to have that stripe my dad. Look, I was like, yeah, Pops, I'm I'm about to do this. When I hit the yard, I'm about to do this. He's looking now that I look back, and he looking at me like what is wrong with this boy? You know what I mean? Like, but you know it will definitely take you on a

couple of trips. I mean, I didn't do no time with my pops, but you know, uh, you know, us as little boys growing to young men sooner later. Man, man, I didn't have a father to look up to, you know what I'm saying, And that was probably one of my problems then. But you know I still don't it is we don't have to continue to have our sons grow up and be One thing I said when I was game banking now one of my sons, but not ever get called sagging now one of my sons ever

put a Pierce day ears, I didn't have that. You ain't gonna be like me. I did everything that uh my mama, husband whatever father didn't do. So that was a reversal to me. I had enough sense to my son, is I'm not gonna introduce him to gangs and he ain't gonna be out here because that's the worstest thing getting that phone call. Your son just got killed around the corner. So that was that was one of the things I said. At least I did do right. Both

of my sons went to college. What I'm saying, and I ain't gonna say, I spent a lot of money and they helping him get there, but they got there, you know what I'm saying. And I did contribute to it. I did what I can do as a father, you know what I'm saying. And and me and my sons have a cool relationship right now in today. You know, UH about to get my youngest son a card because he decided to go back and get his degree. So so for that, I can get you a card. You

know what I'm saying. I can help you do what you're doing. You don't have to struggle, you know what I'm saying. My oldest son, he tastes care of his his daughter. She's twelve years old and he'd been raising her since she was day one. The mother walked out to the hospital when they said y'all can go home, and he's been having her every since. So he they they're good boys. My daughter something difference. She Wow, she got her daddy and her mom and her and she

can't quit now maybe I need to get hurt. Right when when when when? When? When she come home? So but man, I appreciate you all coming in and and really just man sitting down and just conversation with me. Um, Like I said, you was a bonus for me today because I was gonna talk to Harry and I know Harry don't talk that much and I knew he wasn't gonna give me no hour and a half, so he was a bonus from me. But right, man, I appreciate you. Man,

keep doing what you're doing. Man. You know, a long time ago I wouldn't say thank you Jesus, and I didn't bless God at all. But today, right now, today, from from seventeen years now, I am not ashamed of God. And man, I thank God for the day. I think all my blessings brother, and I appreciate you all for coming. Harry, get you out there, yeah, let you know where you are.

Some on Instagram R C A R C E Underscore Osborne S B, R, R and E. So if you need some motivational speaker, life coach things of that nature, go ahead and shoot me a message and we get the ball rolling. Okay that I'm gonna make a joke. Y'all see this guy. Just hold up me, let me pitch my ship real quick. You did that. But man, I appreciate everybody, uh for for for coming out. Harry. I hope you all don't get loads leaving his mother and man gachronos Man, we got a lot more to come.

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