Welcome to another episode the Gangster Chronicles, and we got a friend of the show on again. You guys have seen him a couple of times on the show. Very well received, very important part of the West Coast hippop Um. I would almost be remissed to say that without him it might not be a lot of the Doctor dres and snoop dogs and these different kind of figures man, and great start landscape over the last twenty thirty years.
And so Cat, what's happening? What's up? But you Ben, I'm hanging out man, it's doing what I do, just doing what you do. Man. You know what we were talking man before the show started. Man, but just about I would say, the good old days of Compton Man. And of course you you grew up on a rear rack side of time, sir. Let's talk about a little bit man. How did you avoid the pitfalls and becoming a gag bank? Well, you know when I grew up in Compton man, Um, Well, I grew up this outside
of competence keeping one hoted. I grew up in answers off of mainly else the under and uh, I didn't qualify to be a gangster at that time. I was a skinny kid. I was a skinny Catholic school kid. Back then, you had to have the qualifications. You had to be able to thump. As they say, um. But because I'll let me turn this myth. But because um and I got to high school, I always had access to a vehicle and that put me in good light
with the homies. So every time we want to go to want to go to a dance, Captain on the Park or something like that, either I drove and they rolled back with me, or I take we wrote route road to school together. So back then, your homies looked out for you. If you wasn't what the what what the business that you know that makes you, nobody jumped on you. And even I had fights with it. I
had fights like everybody else. But because I wasn't um, I wasn't one of them that I wasn't on the team per secon Back then it was about quantity quality, not quantity, okay. And we didn't have the numbers in my neighborhood. So the number of came to gangs, it wasn't a big gang, wasn't a big number. And uh, I was just able to do it. Plus my old man was well respected in the Cuban. My mom was respecting in the community. And back then, my mom she didn't run my neighborhood per se, but she had a
lot of influence and she just didn't take ship. And she wouldn't let me hang out in certain places. And people knew if they saw me coming at a certain time, man, get then they out of here. And I want to hear the mama's mouth. And that was real shipped back there. That was real ship. So when did you infactuation with music? How? Man? I've always been infactuated in music. My daddy from Mississippi, so he listened to a lot of blues, Ray Charles, and she liked that. My mom was from Louisiana, So
I had a jazz influence. My sister, I have an older sister. She was into the R and B. So penning. Who would call you within was penning what you was exposed to. So I was exposure everything. As a kid, I learned the same Three Dog Night and Janice Jopplin. Uh, I like Kennon ball Adelie, like BB King, Ray Charles, Jane Brown, dramatic. So it's always been something for me
in my house. Man. So it was always I was always exposed different types of music, and it's just, uh, it's just stuck with me and going to a Catholic school back in the day of Saint Aubert Ship. On a Friday afternoon, after they game with some fish sandwiches, we have a dance in the gym. So we're like twelve thirteen years old dancing in the gym. That was for the so so I've always been around that kind of stuff, so you know, it just it wasn't for me.
It was a natural progression. Okay. So now during that time when you had the sock ups and these different functions, were there a game, but their a game presence of these dances. You know, it might have been a little something something. It wasn't been a gag per se. But some cats they would do. He would get jammed. Okay, if you came to the set and was came to the dance that was doing too much good dances I
had too cute or looking too good. The homies with Jamie ass I had a buddy of mine got jammed one day for no reason other than he was for in the circle and they didn't like the way he was dancing. He was getting too much attention from the girls, and they grew up and uh brought him up real quick and just ran back and he looked up, didn't no woman, didn't know who hit him, but he got hit by by five six cats, just to let him know he's doing too much. Sure, what's the most things experienced?
You bad with games? As far as when we're coming up, oh Man, probably would have to watch stax Man. Watch stas I was sixteen years old. That was probably my Roughlan's experience tooking them. Tookie and Jamal had just uh
started making a name for themselves. Watch that jumped off and they had the thing at the had a big gas concert at the Colosseum, and the deal was, uh, you have can stand in the stands, but you can't come on the dand on on the field the party because I think either the Raiders in the round, I don't know who it was back then the football team of that of that era had a game the next day, and we don't want to feel messed up for people dancing, and no matter what happened, as soon as the band
started playing with barcades, Joe text saples fingers, I think Isaac cages was the main was the main main headliner um. People run down to the damn stage and started, you know, to the field, start dancing. They stopped the show. And at one point in time, Jesse Jackson and they didn't put this in the in the video. I was there what they said, I was there. Jesse Jackson told the Crypts to form a human chain around the perimeter of the field at these uh colosseum. I said to myself,
that's a bad idea. Sure enough, it was a funked up idea, and people started running down to go past the cry the crypt they had a reputation yet, and they were whooping people's ass. Okay, police, the police l A p D. Said fuck it. They were never stood behind by the by the sign. They said, if y'all gonna do that, we can't help y'all. And after after they realized it was a bad idea, they eventually brought the police back down. Told her brothers, y'all can't have
this right here. And there's two things I learned that day. I learned something that day. One the Crypts hadn't didn't have a reputation yet, and too it became like a mob mentality because back then there was a whole lot of crypts. But to keep niggas from niggas, to keep their jackets for getting stolen, they was joining the cript They was doing the honorary crypt volunteer work that day.
Let me ask this because you've been around man, I think of like seventy to seventy three, seventy three, So you didn't grow up with just to run the meal people you can up with when they was trying to figure I grew up with an area. When they were trying to figure out what kryp stood for, the news were trying to figure out what this crypt stand for because they crypt their hair because they had because the cript Us carried kanes and ship because they was crippled.
Or then then then the brothers came up with a came up with an acronym like community Reparations in Progress and something like something to that backlution. Thank you. That's that was That was it. That was That's what it became. But that kind of went out to wonder at some point in time and it just became just CRIPT And I remember when Homeboy got stomped out at this at the Palladium for a Lether the first leather jacket killing at the Palladium. Okay sole trained event and so yeah, dude,
I remember all that. I was a kid. I'm readings on the news right and so putting grow with putting, putting reading? Why left Centennial? Tell us about that's putting putting? Donald Garrett and a couple of the cats. While I left Centennial, I was in the old tc um all TC back back then, was a good raider to keep from half the dress for Jim and our second year of all TC. I was a battalion commander. I had
over three kids behind me. Every parade, me and my me and my staff is walking through the thing Square. We were high sign it and parru boys had a bench right there at the senior Square. We're walking past, not bothering nobody, and they jumped in our faces and their access where you where you, where you pop out?
Motherfucker's going And he was talking specifically to one of my partners, Andre tall red head brother light skiing Freckles and like I told you earlier, look like he looked like Blake Griffin and six ft four tall brother uh dry gold. Look at motherfucker and he was my lieutenant and uh, he studied, and he said, why why we gotta be some papaur motherfucker's And the fight broke out. Man man man curity guards and the g pull up broke the fight up. A couple of days later, were
cutting through Enterprise Park going to the path. He left on the priller. He leved on now he lived on the think on the priller, I lived on Hunt on the second. So we come through the Prise Park, Enterprise Park, turning right into the Hunt thirty second. I go to the pad. Well, we come to the Enterprise Park like we always do, and we see putting, don't Garrett and a couple of the cats and my partner Kenny Clay was on the bench right there in front of the
gym at Enterprise Park. We got two choices. We could run or we could just walk past these cool like walk walk past these brothers like, ain't nothing happens cool. We tried to walk past him. They wasn't going for it. So they form the jumpers. They form the jumpers. My partner Kenny Clay, anybody Kenny Clay, he didn't. He ain't in the stories of the gang Bang, and he ain't in the stories would put another all the other cats that were back in the day. Kenny Clay lived directly
across the street from me. Here's grandmama and my mama went fishing together every day. Can he claim when he first got to California from New York. When he got to California, wed she pulled in my backyard. He knew me very well, my mama. We had a connection. Um. He said, y'all can't jump on them because he backed then the gangsters was real. They was real. I wasn't in the ship, but he's like, hey, man, y'all can't
jump on them. Y'all got to go head up. So uh, my boy and Mr Garrett decided to go head up. What I didn't know and nobody knew, is that my partner take footfold redhead light skinned, freckle face dude from Compton had been taking boxing lessons because he ain't ben getting picked on this a regular ship for his ass he was. He had took to and took boxing lessons, and he did much better than he was supposed to.
I wish you nigger had took a dive, Okay, but then nigga did much better he was supposed to and when we left, the homies was laughing at their boy. They was laughing and uh. We next day at school, one of the girls that lived on parrule within my homeroom class. She told me, she's I don't know what y'all did an Enterprise Park yesterday. They're talking about kidn't shooting anybody in our OLDTC. No problem, gotta go, okay.
My last day is Centennial High School. Now, Huh. I've ended up putting a couple of times at Clark's Drugs and it wasn't no big deal. And it was just me and him though, and by saying what, I'm not gonna say nothing because I don't want abody to get the misunderstanding. Oh bad. He was a live blah blah blah blah blah. Everybody was human, man, Everybody is human, and everybody had their times when they were they were notorious, and sometimes they just all right, man, all right, man,
and keep on going. Now, it was one of them times. He was We were both on the same page. He was walking out of the Clark's Drugs. I was walking in. I saw him. He looked at me. I looked at him. I recognized him. I was scared. He was like cool cool, and that was it. They never came to even after dark. They never came around with him. I remember coming to even a dark Now, the brothers who came to even after dark, they had my back from Pye row was
yellow Ice. Anybody, no yellow Ice. Yellow Ice ain't no joke. He was one of my homies, still my homie right to this day. And he was one of the brothers that when I had, when I had even after dark and do those they had my back the whole time. He said, Man, I love what you're doing, appreciate what you're doing, blah blah blah, good for the folks in the community. Let me and left my homies. Then we got you and that's what kept a little even the
dark most of the time. That was it. Let's go back then, because so we're talking about you, man, why does continue high school during that time? Now, when did you decide to go into the club business? How did how did this whole transformation? We know what? Going to the club business? Man was another fucking accident. Man, I was DJ and freshout of center. I'm after left Centennia with to Guardino. I got I grated from Guardina High
School and Uh. When I was going for graduation, they asked you what you want to do and you got out of high school. They had a little pamphlet come around and I checked off radio DJ. I didn't think I was gonna get it, and I talked funny and I believe that studded and ship and I got the scholarship to go to broadcast school. By the time I got out of high school, disco was in full blast. By the time I got a broadcast school, Disco was in full extra blast. In fact, most of because I
played in broadcast school was disco records. So when I got out of school, was no black discos, only discos they had with white folks. Just goes in in uh North Hollywood and UH Bird Banking Ship. This is like seventy six, seventy seven, seventy six. I got left school to seventy five, seventy seventy five the summer seventy five. I got my broadcast license in seventy six or yeah, seventy six. Uh. Disco Lionso was born in seventy six.
He was created in the seventy six. And UH, I just named myself Disco Lionso because that was the hottest thing going at the time. And I started booking myself at a lot of different parties mostly wasn't receptions, baby showers, and started doing dances and uh, it was just one of them things. Man. I got a job at a record at a uh at Kenney Shoes over in Compton,
worked there for a while. I got another job at the space called Record Shack in Compton over off of Waldut and Uh, it was always confusing cause people think wal that is all Carson, It's not the pot of the thought. I was on on the east side of Mington Well, east east side of Central was was Compton, and I sold records over the phone, me and my boy Roger Clayton from uncle James Army. That was one of job we had together. That's how we really got tight.
We both worked at this record distributor selling records and he had the idea. I'm not gonna take credit for his idea to do dance as the Alpine Village, but I had the sound system. I was a DJ. I had a truck, had sound seekers as sound system speakers, the whole nine yards. And then you've been to DJ and I'll promote the show. Blah blah, blah. And we did that ship for a few times and it was real successful. And one day um, I lived off on
Carlton Avenue off hunt Sewond in Carlton. My MoMA just died. She died and I was nineteen, and I took over our house. My dad had been moving her house and nobody would break in and steal ship. I scared the motherfucker half the time. And he came to the patty at the it was his house technically, and he saw me about five six dollars across the bed. I'm counting money and ship, but also everybody my neighborhood was selling dope, and my own man has never been. He ain't never
supported the dope thing at all. He's shoulnau me up, you said the dope blah blah. I got more money on my bed and he made last two weeks of this job. No, no, pop, this is what's happened. I'm doing Alpine Village, and like the daddies of them days, he came back to check with me see what I was doing. He came through Alpine and we was cracking that night and he asked me about the business. How much was I'm paying for the room and what was
he doing and blah blah blah. When I gave him the business uh plan for Alpine, I thought he was paying like seven hundred bucks for one night. Seven hundred dollars one night. I damn, wh what what? What? Let me talk to my buddy. Well, my daddy and jeff Dy got the owns jef Dy's on Alblano Segando. They was drinking buddies and jeff Dy had just built the second floor to his club and uh fo the after hours,
but it wasn't doing that much. And uh, my old man took me to me jeff D. I've been doing Jeffy all my life, but I never I know him as Mr jeff D. I didn't know him as a business partner landlord. I know him as the old man on the up the hill there. But he took a liking to me, and him and my old man sit there and got drunk and cut a deal for me to take even to Dark. Now I got even to Dark. I was only gonna get it maybe once or twice a week a month. I wasn't trying to be a
every weekend thing. But that was that was the trick bag Okay, if you want it, you gotta take it. Every week Friday and Saturday. Nigga said, what I ain't I don't know. My money ain't death strong. But I had a backer and she backed me up on the deal, and uh, we went in there. For the first few weeks. We were struggling for a minute. But then shortly after that, man, the word got out that motherfucker jumped off. But yeah, I was within within eve, trying to just be a
regular despromotor one two days a week. Um, you know nothing, you know, but once two days a month, no big deal. Ended up with a club at only two years old. Yeo, man, we was charging sometimes we charged you a little ninety nine cents and I still make two three. We charged nine said sometimes from from from uh nine thirty and at forty five, you couldn't get in the gas station. You could not get the United gas station. They'd be lined up. That dick, the gas station manager, coming a
few times. Mr William, Could you please have them have a guard of somebody curve him so we can get to sell gas. It was like that, okay, and uh, but after nine thirty, after nine thirty, it was five whatever the case, may be the key to even at
the dark success. What wasn't so much the amount of money to the turnover we had And I didn't realize that to later wrong because the Eve open at nine thirty sometimes ten o'clock on the Saturday night, but we stayed open till like five or six in the morning, so the kids are come in early. I pick up a pick up a rack, then a couple of racks then and then the after party started. And depending on what was going on, if that was a big dance or a big concert, I had to after party. You
bring a ticket STU up to the after parties three dollars. Wow, man, we was doing fantastic. Man Ship, I was bought out of control and then ever sold nothing but some but tickets. Okay, let me ask you this, when did you start geting? When did the idea for the world players written? Just like anything else, man uh, ship starts getting old and
the Eve started slowing down. Okay, after about three years, about two eighty three eighty three, Eve started having like you know, other clubs started to happen to blah blah blah. So I started having ideas on how to keep it, keep the excitement coming on. You know, it's like any other relationship. You gotta keep it, keep it exciting. So I started bringing in the acts all my buddies when the music business, so I was able to kind tech. Russell Simmons, he gave me Curtis, got me Curtiss blow.
Later on I was kicked my buddy. Other buddy he got me or I mean sorry, Russell Simmons got me Curtis. Then he also had his brother and his partners. They was just coming up Run DMC. He gave me Run DMC for five hundred dollars and playing tickets. So I got Run DMC even to dark on a Friday. But they sucked around and played Funcle James on me on the Saturday. That's mad, motherfucker. What pay? I hadn't bought the tickets, paid y'all and y'all can work for this.
My competition the next night and the night that night they played it even to dark. Run got this thing about dropping microphones and he broke my microphone. That pissed me off again. So when he picked up my microphone, I'm like, you know what, man, I ain't And then they go across the town to play for my enemy Chill now, I ain't. I ain't doing this number, man, So I just thought I'm gonna make mom goddamn group. The show was fifteen minutes long. I paid five hundred
dollars about three plane tickets. They were they wasn't that well known yet. They was cool, but they wasn't that well known. And that the fact that he broke my microphone and played for Uncle Jams Army. Right after that, I was like, dude, I could do this my damn self. And that's been my attitude all my life. I do this myself. So so one of the most pivotal rest colost routes in history was bird Phone. Yeah, I was.
I was mad. I wasn't mad at him. I just was mad at the fact that he didn't give a damn about my microphone enough to put it get handed to him. You know. He dripped. That's what he does. He drives the microphone. That Obama shit and uh, this Mica microphone is cheap. The motherfucker's They can't stand that ship and he still doesn't today. I got a video of him doing it in my Even the Dark documentary.
He still dropped the microphone walk up the stage. Well, that little motherfucking the microphone I head couldn't stand and dropping and it broke back at that time with the cat she was running with. This is the possibility to run to the guy's no not nah. Um, you know we weren't that man. We weren't at volatile. I tell you what what was gonna call the problem though? Um we first brought Curtis, he went to dark. Uh. People thought Curtis blow was some real tall brother. Curtis like
five six five seven. He thought it was big tall brother and uh, niggas is upset what that know, motherfucker And we started rapping. It cooled out before a minute. It got a little harry there for a minute, but that's real ship. Curtis me Curtis, we talked all the time. I ain't never told that. I say that for my document mother documentary. But yeah, he uh, you know, it was a disappointing size wise. But when he finally came out, the voice are so big. You think he was, you know,
a much bigger dude, and uh it wasn't. Ntil he started rapping until the ship, but he just like okay, cool, alright, chill, that's crazy man. Curtis blows shut up Curtis. We were to get him on the show too much love good dude, Good dude. So when we talk about man, now you have this idea to feel just the world class wrecking crew. Did you go want to recruit each member of personally? Nope, they just fell in my lap. They just fell in
my lap. Uh Yellow came first. I had another guy out of from the neighborhood DJ with me, Dr Rock. He left, moved to Texas. Uh Yellow came in right but the following week, Uh never left uh clientele. I met him and at the Even Too Dark um uh contest. He wanted contest the Even Too Dark. I brought him on the team and dre He came in as a customer and uh got up on the turn tables and did a mix that was so dope. I'm like, dude, you need to stick around for a minute, and eventually
joined the team as well. Wow, that's crazy, man, So let's go back. You're missing somebody. Dr Rock. We're about to break. I'm about to educate some people in some things. Dr Rock was real instrumental in the career of DC Texas, and that's they ran across each other market correct. Um, we were record crew, blew up in uh l a with doing shows in Texas. We get to Texas, Dr rockets over there, Rocket with Tom joining on them on the on the morning on the mix show and uh
ship we meet. He got a group, he got a rap group now called the fel of Fresh Crew, and shortly after that Dr Rock and the Feel of Fresh grewp came came to the studio to do some Foredre to do some beach with him and everything I know he was on. He was on roofless ship. You know. In fact, um, some of the ships I forgot Doc had remind me of this ship because when he did this documentary he called me to be in this documentary. Nay, am I your documentary? And nigger what's you too? Oh?
No ship? You're right? So yeah it's all good. Dr rock Man so you got client, tell you got Dr Trad Yeah, yeah, Well you know he came, he came on. He came recommended from one of the guys that work for me. But I had yellow yellow with a bad motherfucker you know, and I wouldn't. I wasn't no slout. We had a whole crew was DJ's unknown me Yellow.
Uh clientele we all with DJ. I didn't need them more goddamn DJ's so but when he came in, I don't And to this day, if you if you water boarded my ass, I couldn't tell you how you ended upon my turn tables because he got up there. There was an unknown gave him permission or what. But he got on the turntables and did some ship, and uh, the ship was so dope. I had to how that. Anybody,
you know what's happening with that? Blah blah blah. We got to kick in it and uh to come on back with From that time, I was doing underground mixes and ship. I was doing a lot of bootlegs UH called v rocks, which is basically UH mixed records. It was mixed records. Look look him up on YouTube. I was doing Z rocks, cut ups, scratch parties, UM, all kinds of ship and we were selling them at the swat Meats and swap meets. V I p s all of them, and Uh I was looking for somebody to
do some ship. Yellow was doing most of minere I started working for Unknown, and then he left Unknown to start working for me doing mixes and that was the reason why I hired him because to do the mixes. And after Run Deep See Them came were like this, I want to go legit. And after we made our first record Slice, That's crazy, man. I was the market was the market receiptence to your first single? You know what, dude? It was amazing man, because um, not even knowing it.
I was always being in here, dude. I said this ship and I mean this with all my heart. I don't know why God chose the path of me that he's chosen. I mean, my last job in nineteen seventy nine, I saw records over the phone when I left and they fired my ass. Finally, the only thing I took with my goddamn call list. So when I started making bootlegs, I knew all the record stores. So he was making more money, dude, because I think sometimes I got in on the mixtape games, kind of like as its Death
you remember it, kind of like the death reto. Yeah. I was dealing with maybe three or four distributors overseason. When I tell you I was having my way. I was having my way. I was making maybe anywhere from eighty two hundred fifty thousand dollars a month. Okay, like seriously, just a whole bunch of stuff I was distributing at that time. Dog found stuff that's my dads. And we first got back to get a shout to my boy big,
and we asked some stuff going. I had cast some Japan and Pa and me ce d damn right, and they don't understand that these dolls and see these they got a copy and check the ten and eleven thousand dollars. Come on, man, come on. So I just can imagine the type of money he was making. I tell people all the time, if I had a damn time machine, I wished I could, Oh, man, come on duing what I know now, I would be so rich. It wasn't nothing, man uh. In the very beginning we're talking about eighty
two eighty three, records were still a ship. Twelve inches was still a ship. Um. I just met Steviano. I was, I was out in my rounds and I ran across this Asian dude. Dot on Pico. Pico used to be the record street, Okay, it was called one stops on Pico, up and down Pico, and I would go here, drop off fifty, drop off a hardy drop off fifty drop off two hunted and I'm in this one store I forgot the name of South Southumpton and uh, I see
this Asian dude talking to Uh. Yeah's Asian dude talking to this cat behind the kind of George, my guy want to come to see. So I'm you know, I'm doing a bootleg thing. I'm like, I was, like, I'm selling dope. I don't trust nobody because the bottom of the bottom of all records that says, uh, copyright is a federal defense some ship like that. I'm thinking everybody the police. So I'm waiting. He's coming over here, man, I said, Now, I wait, I wait, so uh he
finally said, bring me the records. So I Brad George the records and Steve says, I've been looking for you. Almost took off run and nig what you looking for me? Fu, I didn't know who he was. He said, I run the swap meet at the Rodeo swap meet, and I know the Rodeo swat meat. I had bought records from him. Didn't just didn't recognize him, and Steve became one of my major customers. It wouldn't be shipped for me. Man. Back in that day, I had a van no seats
in it had a bed. That's all I needed with a bed and from curtains. And you know why, it's all I needed a bed and curtains. Right Um, I'd go go down to Bill Smith Custom Records in al Fegando. I had to pick up a thousand records for Cletus. The v I p I pick up a couple of hundred. This number I had had at one time, I had like ten different numbers. I would literally the van would
then to be would be loaded down. They have a pull a pull a fucking uh pull up the fucking a palette and the fucking forklift and I have to load all that ship. And then I had to be turning slow and driving slow because my ship was standing dragging the ground. By a time I went to see Cletus, by a time Uh Steve came by the house, I go see Calvin. My van was up, my pockets was fat in the motherfucker. I didn't want to go to the club. Ship. That's how much mon I'd make on
Monday through Friday. I'd make so much money selling records to the we I didn't want to go to the club. That's how ship. That's how the ship was flowing back then. Was definitely thick back then. Now, as far as Dr Craig thoes, you know what I answer, support is about Fraid wound up and coming probably the most iconic producer in the history of hip Bob. I don't even know if they could be debated. When did you realize that he had something going for himself that was out of
the ordinary? Kind um when he was when he was here, I knew he was kind of different because he thought he's stayed in the studio. He didn't. I thought he I think he'd be gone. He be back his sleep and sleep at the board or something. Ship. Um, he had a dedication and he had a drive that I had never seen before. I mean, he's like the first producer that I really worked with on the regular basis, and he was the first cat that really wanted to
learn how to do this ship. I mean he would play with keyboards and drum machines and I've been I bought all the ship, but you want those fucking seat no saying no speakers A true story. I bought keyboards, drum machines, eight oh eights to hunt it's twelve uh scratch turntables. But I never really funk with this ship because when I got this ship, the niggas like get out of the way. That was That was the attitude
if I got it. DMX had a whole DMX Oberheim, d m X, d m X drum machine, DSX uh seker O B eight um keyboard, and them niggas were not like there was almost they can They would let be touched the ship. I paid for it, but they wouldn' let me touch it. Him between him and Yellow. They were so enthusiastic about this ship. And that was something that kept me going because I felt my money was it was an investment. Okay. Nobody was trying to teach
us how to do this ship. There were no classes at you know, at nowhere, nowherether I knew of that touched you. How to run a drum machine. Drum machine was brand fucking new. What the class learning the drum machine? And what? No places? You know you body come out in the guitars in it. And they had classes for this ship. You had to learn your own here to read the fucking man, you want to figure this out? Huh, you're learning your sucking out. Man. When you were telling
you that was like reading something. The manual was most of that ship was then was converted from Chinese to fucking American, which means it was a lot of times it was myth. It was misquoted and ship and you had to call called the fucking company to find out what how to do something. They they tell you, I'm sorry, the fucking the manual is was mistranslated. That's real ship we had to do. Named Daniel sofer Um, he was
the first one that did. He did uh juice the surgery and he was charging like a honey fiftied dollars per song to program them songs. But dred did all the god didn't work And I'm like, well what am I paying him for? I buy a system and the drede program the ship. That's basically what it was. Even to Dark gave me the money to finance crew Cut records. A simple as that. The money I made the Youth to the Dark, I just flipped it over the crew cut records, you know. And that's how that's how the ship,
how the ship transitioned everything. So you kind of became like the kind of mentor around town if you want to get in the Rigord business. Everybody would come to see everybody, because see, it wasn't just about me having the studio a club. I mean, think about this. I've been I've been in the same house the nineteen eighty five. Okay, it's the same house that everything you saw au straight out of Compton, same place. Okay. I had another house on My first house is on Carlton at the studio
back there. That's what we did all the traffic jams and ship for k D had a four track studio back there. Then I got a twelve track UM and then we did we did our first album demos over there. We got our first record deal with Epic. I moved over here and we did the same same process. But because I knew all the swap meets, I knew all the v I P s, I knew all the record stores, I knew um uh Greg Mac. I had a club,
I was given dances. I was doing. I was doing a lot of shit, okay, and that because I didn't have a job, I could do a lot of ship. The eve after dark Dudo skate Land gave me the money and the freedom too. Baby had all we go on to do what then? I need to do. I'd make money on the weekends and come back here in the studio and do some ship on the bottom ship during a week And that's what we fucking did. And it just, um, it was something, man, that was so unique at that time. Uh. It just made me a
magnet for everybody that want to do something. Cause when nobody else, given nobody else new shot. And the last thing, the last thing I've ever been as a motherfucker hate. Anybody knows me. I'm the most open hearted motherfucking around. It's probably why I'm still sitting up here right now.
That's real today, you know. I mean you had a conversation one night about a month from our cold because I was watching her, you know, her story, and they asked you in the movie, and I felt that short pantrayal was somewhere kind of like, I'm like, that's not how that went down. Man. Now let's talk about for a minute. You discovered did you discover her in the story? Like I said, now, Man, I met last and right back here this fucking studio. I met her right back
here in this fucking studio. It was a big as mixing board right here. I just got back off off the two of me and yelling at them and just get the like four or five dates outside of California. Just got off an airplane and uh, I had a date. I called my girl from the airport. Hey, I'm coming to the pad. I'll be there in a minute. Me and my nuts to be coming. Okay with one of the dates when had time to meet, make no friends, you know what I'm talking about anyway, Um, but homeboy
caught me as I was unpacking my bag. Whatever the case we do. The name of smooth, I ain't seen him sits then name was smooth Man. I got this girl, you gotta here, you got due now today I got a come on man, come on, please please, you gonna get come on man, fuck it, fuck it brought her over here. She stood right over here, right here, and wouldn't say ship while he was talking. I'm like, dude, you know what, just some bullshit. I got to go.
And she stood and she moved over here and started singing, and my god, damn, and then she then uh, she stopped singing and started talking. Goddamn, what the fund happened? And that was what that was it. It wasn't uh me and the studio. Hi, I'm grand Master Alonzo. I'm here to buy some socks. Motherfucker's. They've never seen me with no socks on. Was being doing Miami Vice for Miami Vice. Was doing Miami Vice anyway. Uh when I
saw that movie, man, I was like, get motherfucker's. I want you all to spend a couple of dollars and consulted. Motherfucker's just asked the nigga a question or two and tell the story remotely. Right. Yeah, she worked at uh think I think it was Make Company or Jason one of them stories in the Fox. He was small. She did work there, and I would drop her off at work from time to time. But I wasn't in the
shopping looking for and I never smoked no cigarettes. And I never ever ever had one of my female singers on the bus coming to those studio. Man, I'd go get up and drave fat fat somebody gonna get him, and no girls, somebody gonna be on the bus. I don't leave in that ship. I'm outside smoking stick and betch waiting on the show. Up. She late the funk out here with that ship. That's crazy, man. I'm glad, I'm glad we got to clear that up. As I told you, I want to talk to you about. That's
his monster. If you've seen this stuff, I saw that ship man. Wait wait wait, I didn't give a funk. They paid me a big ass fat check to use turn off lights. That motherfucker. I'm like Cat Williams. They wanted me to make me an asshole give him a check. So yeah, I'll feel you, big dog, I'll fig you. So, you know, going back to trade man. So he pretty much got to start hear me yellow beause like you
see people sleep on yellow. Yellow wasn't yeah, y'all know what, don't joke man, y'all, there was no joke, y'ather was your old g dude. I would I would put Yell up against Egypt, your love for any day of the week. And Uncle Jam through me would not take the motherfucking back dad. What nobody say? They wouldn't take the motherfucking back yere. So let me ask this man this song like me, who jams are we did? They have a slave roberty to daddy, lets you have your turn on here.
But so y'all had to be jams army. You know, it wasn't so much of beef. It was like a love hate relationship, man being the dude started off together. We started off the records stractive I got him. Well, let me let me tell you the whole story. I was looking at them for a way to buy records wholesales. I'm trying to start my my DJ business. What records? It was kicking my ass. You had to have two of them back then, so they were six five six dollars a piece. I'm like for a swell and like that,
what album I need? You know I need two of them. I can't afford that, So I'm trying to find a way to buy the records wholesale. I saw adding the paper, new record store coming in town, a distributor. Fucking I'm gonna call the motherfucker's up and see who I can buy some records hohlesale. They wouldn't sell me the records wholesale. But the dude to answer the phone his name was Alonzo too, So we kicked it. We kicked. We hit it off big time. Nig off me a job. Why
are you missing right meet my ass? I said, no, man, I don't want no job because I was working at Kenny Shoes right there. On Rose, Kansas Central. I had a good deal because I get off every Friday and Saturday at six o'clock. Gave me plenty enough time to get my truck loaded up and go do my gigs. Now, I don't want to suck it up, so I turned Roger onto the job. Roger from Uncle James Army. He just got fired from v I p in uh in the in the cross the mall, so I turned him
on to the job. He got the job. So a couple of weeks later they had the spot in the in the in the warehouse and Uh during the daytime, I didn't work recostracting. I mean, Kenny do the daytimes. On the weekend, I do that, so we worked working together. Later on they offered me a job. I had a job. I had a job for cal Trans on the freeway the whole nine yards, and I didn't want the motherfucker, but I was gonna take it because I had a kid.
My man was all my ass and ship, and I'm like, funk, I'm gonna go do this, go down to cow Trans. I told God us as I see Oman, I ain't I don't want this mothering. I don't want this job. But if I gotta go, I go. But if if I see a way out, I'm taking it. And sure enough and I got ready to go. It gave me my shirt, my helmet, my orange shirt, every fucking thing. And when it came down to the last piece of paper for the insurance, I couldn't start without the insurance.
To me, that was my old man. I went back to Record Shack. SA y'all still with me? Keep this job? I say cool, they say cool. So Monday morning, after I told my daddy I wasn't going to record record Shack, he cust me the funk out, Cust me out. I've been I've been this little homie all my life. Oh man ever called me down but champ all my life. But now I'm a dumb motherfucker because you got a kid in the house and you can work for some records.
Fun that you're stupid motherfucker. But keep it one hunted. I took the job at record Shack. That morning. I got the Record shack. Roger wasn't working there. There's fire. Just asked that Friday. I didn't know. I didn't know. They gave me his desk, his phone, his list of call first motherfucker called me a record shack was Roger. I answered the phone, man, how you got mine? What are you about? Death? Man going on? I'm not doing I don't know what's going on. I have no idea.
What are you at? Man? Man? They fire men? Are you working? You with the motherfuckers? You with the mother No man, nig I didn't know. I didn't. He think I'm on some backstabb and ship and nick I didn't do that. So a few months later they brought the nigger back here and we was cool for a minute, but he never forgot that ship. He always felt up doubled back on him or something. Five five people that day and hid six more. And while while we said
record shack, we got back together again. While we were we both in the sales room now, and that's what he came up with the idea about doing Alpine Village. But see, by that time, I was already doing good as a DJ. And here here was my problem was because I got a brand new van this nineteen seventy seventies seven. I got a nineteen seventy six van. Everybody knew I had my owld house. I don't know how I got to motherucker. They just knew I had my
own house. I'm clean every day because back then niet when they get to a Heart Soul shoes and I got on Heart Soul shoes and Knick Knick shirts and seamless pants, and she because I'm in their condition, and I could come to work clean and go home clean. I ain't got to go home. I just go straight to my girl house. I just go to my house with my girl waiting. I mean, whatever the case may be. And uh, then we were topped it all off. Came
time to get paid. We got paid. Every Wednesday. I'd go to I'd go in the warehouse and pull a bunch of records, give him to the lady to pay roll, and she might give me twenty dollars. I was only making a hundred and sixties. Some dollars bring home, okay, But I didn't give a ship because if I can make it to Friday, I'm gonna get hunday and fifty Friday night for doing the dance. I'm gonna get another hundad fifty for doing a party on Saturday. If I
do a baby shower, that's another hundred. So I'm making three every weekend. Because they nobody's got no competitions. I ain't got no competition. I'm busy to my fucking Plus, my partner's daddy on the print shop made a printing right there on un A tenth and uh Main Street. I would go through the wedding reception ship who getting married called people up, hey man. And because I had a broadcast license, that was my ship. I'm a licensed DJ on Alonzo Williams. Just go along on licensed DJ block.
I stayed busy, so I need a little record shack buddy. He was just pretty much keep popped off my ass. And just like he said, they fired my ass after about six seven months. And but by that time Alpine was cracking and I just made up my mind. I said, you know what, I'll never put another motherfucker between me and my livelihood again. Funk that ship getting piste off. Sometimes if you got a mean to get ship done, that I get piste off. I fucking motherfucker. Okay, I
don't give a ship. And when they fired my ass, I was so glad I had a job because I had a car note, I had a van. My van wasn't paid for. I had to pay that band note and I had a kid, and they gave me about seven hundred dollars. You know, back then they hold a check and pay you a vacation and ship. And they gave me a boy seven hundred bucks. And about a month later I opened Eve at the Doctor. I ain't ever had a job since then. So I want to go back then before. You don't want to run out
of times. I want to make sure we talked about all of this land. So phrase in the studio pretty much learned to do what he did, to do what the man does on your equipment. This was Drey's um music school, his production school. This was everything. This was everybody's man. Look. THEE Barnes was here every day. Her partner of the group Body and Soul lived there. She was in the room from the Rose, in the room
from me. The Barnes was here every day. Um coolio, Um young broke easy driving a fucking se Lukie Samarrai his son Louie for five years old. Um, the Body can sould be over here rehearsing. DJ Pool would be here before he made any kind of ship. Uh. Shortly after that came MC eight and Chill, and there were some gangster straight up gangsters out of sucking uh fucking Compton. Shortly after that, Leila was here with Above the Law. I mean many people out of Compton ain't been through
the studio. Let me ask you this, now, you had all of the people who come. Have you ever thought the thing? Man? You know you had one of the first major recordar deals with every right, Yeah, why don't you just take all them dudes? Well, understand this, dude, see that. Here's the problem. Dot. I took ci A to Epic marking. Arnold was my my executive producer brother behind the c I A ice Cube was the Jinks ice Cube and k D Kid disaster. They I got
them signed before Record Crew got signed. They got a single deal on Epic. Okay, the problem was Doc the caliber of people I was fucking with. I'm working with Larkin Arnold. These dudes got in double a CP Awards. Man, I'm working with Joe Buzzby. Joe Buzzby's brother in law was the one of broad cameo to Eve after Dark. Joe Buzzby gave me cameo to come to Eve after Dark to set Eve after Dark. Off. I knew Joe
Buzby like I know you. Okay, So I'm from Compton, Dude, how do I take a group called Nigga's Attitude to Joe Buzzby in Century City? Tell me how I do that? I got a group called Nigga's Attitudes. They're gonna throw me out the twenty second floor. Man, it wasn't the ship. The motherfucker's thinking. It wasn't that kind of time. Yet, even with priority, all the ship that they had to go through, these brothers wasn't gonna let them do that like that. We couldn't even say dude. We couldn't even
say ass. We had to go back in the studio on one of our records called um house Calls. We did house calls and just infected me, insinuated I'm gonna whoop your ass. We had to go back and edit it. All you can hear is the okay. So the whole fucking record industry was totally different then, man, it was totally different. We got our record deal. Now once the niggas blew up, everybody was calling me and you can get me, and you get me on the drake. I got two grand if you wanted, you can get hold
over here. But they weren't gonna take that chance. He was corporate dudes, corporate, corporate and corporate black corporate music industry was not gonna be the one to break a group like in w A. It was bitches and hold come on, see the lord's tuck about having the field day, but they add one priority. Speaking of and d bars Man, who were your first thoughts when that situation happened with them? You know they had the whole Dude, I and talked
to d before that. She didn't even jumped off. She was thought she was scared because she didn't edit that ship. I think she whatever would happened, whatever happened, I think she interviewed Dre them first and they started talking ship and Cube saw it and said some ship or it might have been vice versa. Whatever whatever came out, it was reversed to make it more fucked up. But no matter what happened, she wasn't the one that did it. Okay, on the internet today, the same she didn't do today.
Same she did played edit motherfucker's against each other. Okay, Um, she did not set it up that way. She didn't interview with one group. Did The interview was with with somebody else and uh even then let them see it and let qube see it, and he had a chance to disch them before without you know, whatever the case may be, and that's what piste him off. Okay, but I was surprised me because everybody, everybody would would be at my house on a regular basis my house or
motherfucking house party. I saw him get upset a couple of times because he had a couple of crazy ones, but I never see he put hands on nobody. Now, yeah, I think sometimes man, you know the fact, like you said, somebody going to make a movie and they can just to tell his side and do all that and pilishment. You know that that's almost goes beyond the villagement some of the things you doing these movies right here right you know. Um, I heard something, but I never I
never went because again contrary to popular belief. Yeah, but damn what they say in Stralia content michel story, we didn't drink and smoke about this motherfucker back then. Well, nobody when the alcohol around this motherfucker never never ever ever wasn't because they couldn't. They just didn't. They was all understand this. Everybody was young, dret he was like maybe eighteen. Okay, he couldn't even drink legally at that time. If he if he had been trying to drink around me,
I detected his ass because you're too young. It's my house. You can't do certainly in my house. I was that. I was that big brother. I was that dude. Okay, the other I never smoked to drink shit. Okay. We wasn't even a big factor that we had kind of played out, dude, I mean, we weren't even a big deal back then. It talk about the eighties, right before crack. My boy, my neighborhood, My boy been thinking were here thinking we're like a motherfucker. But he it wasn't that.
It wasn't it was different kind of ship. It wasn't as it was like. It wasn't. It wasn't chronic. It wasn't um. It hadn't played out, but it was. It was really not as big a deal as it is right now. Plus it was a big It was much a much much bigger deal to be caught with. The
ship was worth the house. It was like a dick's upstill so um and I didn't even see no forty ounces around here, un till I got with the my youngsters till eight and uh eight Chill and uh and the eighth Chill and Sound Control mob My introduced me my backyard, my studio, the forty ounces, because when I take my trash out, it was all glass. Okay, it was all glass, all of them, all of them. He'll tell you about that ship. Okay, they were you know,
that's what they did. But again because I carried my ship a certain way, I had bloods and cryptie on a regular basis, and I never had a I've never had a fight. Both shootings in my patner and that ship. Okay, they all respected what I was trying to do. And that's the same thing. Even the dark. It was always respect there. You give me mine, I'm gonna give you yours, okay, And that's what That's what that's and always been my
my calling card. I called Captain Mr so On. So right to this day, I ain't got too but I just do, Okay. So motherfucker's respected what I was, what I was doing. They understood what I was doing back in the studio, and they may not come to the club, but they knew at my house it was it was
a no fly zone. Easy would come here after he blew up and he'd be at some girls house all night, and lives said he would have been at the studio or something like that, and had him too big as some moins to meet him over here because he knew he would come over here. And when nobody gonna sunk with him, what's the big mother fucker's chicken? John does
some big mother fuckers, you know what. Let's just talking about Easy for a minute, man, because you kind of plugged Easier from Jerry Heller, Right, Yeah, you're gonna do it easy to Jerry Heller. So is it true to Easy? He paid? Somebody paid meat Jerry when Easy? When you see st out of the copter, you saw Easy and Dre in front of compter City Hall. He Easy got Hi by the jail, right, but they don't show you
is longso got it about twice before the year. The reason why he was in jail because Lonzo and Co signed for draded by a car and get a car r EX seven Alonso used to own. I upgraded to a BMW Dre one of my r X seven I co signed. I was his uncle sold in the car and Dre liked flying up and down the street. And he wouldn't go to court. He wouldn't go to court. He get tickets, you want to go to court. So back then or warrant was a hundred sixty one dollars.
That was, that's all. It was hundred sixty one dollars. But a hundred sixty one dollars in nineteen eighty five, eight five or nicely to change, okay, trust me it was. And the first time we had something to do, I wouldn't get him by the jail. Second time, I think we had to be in the studio. I got him by the jail. Third time, I'm like, we ain't got nowhere to go, and my money is tight. I gotta pick your car. Note I can't come get you. And
he had one of his girls called Easy. Easy came and got him out of jail, and understanding it was he would do some beats for Easy in exchange for getting him out of jail. No problem. The only problem was the beats. I'll let you use the drum machine, but when you push record in the studio, I need to get paid this twenty hour. And that's where it was so easy being a dope dealer that he was. I told the story a thousand times, tell you again, just so, motherfucker's no being a conduct that he was.
He kept his money in the sock. He kept them change in his pocket. So after might want to get paid, he go to go to his pocket. No, nigga, go to your sock, nigga, easy walking around like he had an ego. Brace alone, be so much money. He's got damn pocket. And I'm like, dude, Uh, I can't get my money. Oh man, I give you forty. I'm not a crackhead. Give me my fucking money. So we would go back and forth and we laugh and joke and it would be uh, it would be an issue, but
it wouldn't be an issue. I got you, I got you. So finally he wanted something from me. Jerry Heller had got messed around there and got us, found us some money. We got a CBS deal. He found us some money at the Union and dre and yelling at him, Oh my god, Jerry Heller, Jerry Heller. He would not manage you yet, but he did this as a favor, and when he did it, we signed him as a manager. So because um, he got it, found it just like it's like a piece. He found us at the union.
Um he said he won the meeting. Okay, cool, I think, uh this is I give you a five of the bucks. Think you're gonna pay me, but you owe me to get do your favorite. Now that's stupid, all right, I can I can't give some extra ship all right now you're talking my language. And that's basically what it was. It wasn't so much he gave. I give you a fithering about no, no, no, no, no, Nina. I always I know I owe you. But if you look up with Jerry, I'm gonna pay you right now and give
you a little something something on top of that. And it was just some introduction now that I think the introduction was gonna be. Um changed his hip hop history, no fucking way, because Jerry didn't want to meet him. And I don't give a funk. What do you say, living and dead? He was concerned about that, fucking me odd man. He's not saying he's not like you, guys. Man.
He he wears tennis shoes and Jeane Dude, I'm telling you, but nobody's gonna believe my ass because nobody knows the fucking no but me because I was only one there. Jerry did Easy there. I ain't got a lot of kicking. He didn't want to funk with him because he was used to sing with me. He was Jerry already managed Egyptian Lover. His partner managed l a dream team. He
had just signed world class wrecking crew. So and if anybody know all about us, we was dance groups, okay, and Easy was a street dude, and Jerry had never dealt with the streat dude before. You know, you guys carry briefcases, and you know you understand business. I don't. He don't understand business. You know, he gives me, pays me in cash man, you know I give it him. He did. It was totally different culture shot. He had
never dealt with that before. In fact, when when Easy, when Jerry finally started, right before he made a decision to mess with Easy, he says, so, um man, that's answering me a question, said, what's that? He says, how does the guy from the valley? How how does the Jewish guy from the valley deal with a group called Nigga's Attitudes? I told him very carefully. He had doubts about this ship man, And you know, what I watched. I watched his interviews, and you know, I watched his interviews,
I watched other interviews. I'm like, you know, when I get so tired of motherfucker's acting like they invented hip hop or they was Oh I saw, I just saw get the funk out of here with that bush. And if it was live, I said the same thing, get the funk out there with that ship. Jerry. They in the movie try to Compton. Jerry is carrying records and showing Easy how to get the funk out Jerry Helen carried no records at Macola, no place else. No, it
ain't gonna happen. Well, let me you know, while we're on the top of Easy Man, we can talk earlier. You always keep it one hundred bonds. Why ain't trying to get into no speculus, you know, no speculation or no kind of controversy or you know, but easy stifference kind of strange. Always found a strange and effect that with all the women that he had, none of those women turned up to the h every possible. You didn't
have a rash of positive cases. You know, in l A County during the times Easy was making his rounds you know what I mean. Do you think, man, it's possibility, man, that he was done dirty, that he was set up. You know what um for a person who diagnosed on UH for time for for simplifying the time code, the
time situation. For person who was deb who was death diagnosed on the first, on the first of the month and was dead three weeks later, that doesn't even sound right to nobody, man, Not from AIDS, because I understand AIDS. Understand AIDS. Most of y'all don't remember this ship. I remember like it was yesterday. The first person I've ever heard died from AIGs was Rock Hutson. He was an actor and it was months. Every fucking day on Channel two, I believe it was Jerry Dumphy would give a report
on Rock Hutson and his his AIDE situation. Today, rock Hutson is resting comfortable. It is Beverly Hills home as he suffers from complications from AIDS that went on forever and he finally died. Easy to get AIDS on the first of the month, before you can get for the fifteenth Come be out of here. They wrote this bullshit letter that nobody believes what he wrote. That letter anybody's
seen the death certificate. It was no autopsy. Once he got married, the autopsy was a white You know, this is no fact the wife could uh a wife or religious religious reasons can can overshadow of autopsy. Um, nobody really got the chance to seem that much before he before he checked out. And uh, it's just the whole situation. Man was just really really like, huh, what the fuck he was at my house? Maybe I don't know, six weeks before he was dead, maybe six weeks He looked
healthy to motherfucker. But you know, when you think about that kind of ship man, and the kind of money he represented and ship he was going through, you don't know what's going on. Man. I can't say what happened, but I know it never said right with me. Let me ask you a question. Man. Allegedly he had got rid of git here and I've heard from people that are revivable sources that they were talking about getting the group back together. You know, people have met, they had
made up, you know, they were talking. And so when you talk about me and some dollars man generating and you've got the possibility of him reuniting back with Dr Trade Man, I q that probably would have been the biggest selling album of all time. Very possible. During that time, you know, you get que back in the studio and this is at all that they've accomplished, and Cuba has become the mobil that he was setting off, the being all that power. That represents a lot of money. Man,
So it's very possible. And you know, I think even just thinking about Jerry Heller being at point, You've got so many different people that play with this man that that's a lot of money. Yeah, it is. MoU was telling your boy earlier, I said that I look at hip hop and R and B and so many of the superstars. Most of our superstars died at a suspicious, suspicious fucking causes. Man, they find printing and elevator dead on Fenton On Michael Jackson dies from from an overdose
of prof fall within Houston dies in the bathtub. You know, but you got folks been doing drugs since the fifties, say, still kicking making music. You can. I'll tell you something deep and this is something that I'm working on right now. I want you guys to look this up. Look up this name when you when you get a chance, Internet, Um Raffles van Exel. Raffles van Exel was a guy that was around all these people. He was around Bobby Brown and with me, he was like that consigulary kind
of hen want to got the dope for him. He was around Michael Jackson, he was around Prince. As a matter of fact, this dude just got five million dollars from Princess of State. Now, how is a guy that comes over here? Man? He used to date the dude that runs TMZ Harvey living dude, a living dude. Look at that name, Raffles. It's deep man, It gets deep out there. So the stuff was easy, man, is very plausible.
It's very plausible man, if somebody gave him a hot dose or something plausible product that he didn't die of naze, don't let his kids got now. He had kids before he got uh he just girl just got pregnant, was pregnant with his daughter fight mistaken before he died. So uh, it's still it's it's always been in the shadows, man, I always though in the shadow. Johnny j the producer for Tupact I mean ship. He was in jail two weeks ago, end up taking a nose dive off the
second Floorida County Jail. I mean you got some bad bad dudes, had some bad ship happened to him. Man, Yeah, Man, always questionable, you know, even when you look at the tupacet Biggie cases, them cases don't been in solved for the longest. And what's so crazy is you could ask any kid riding down fro around the corner who did what who? They could tell you, but the police can't figure it out, you know, man, Silonso, I know you've got a big presence online man, telling people Man where
they can go find. You actually got something going on with one of my childhood s heroes on Dr Dre. Yeah, man, Um I do. I do a lot of podcasts. I do a couple of different podcasts. One that's called n w A Strakes Alonso every Who's Yeah I do with my boy Dust Division and check it out on YouTube click subscribe, like share. On Thursdays, I do uh Legendary Connects with me and Dr Dre. For you're on TV raps and you get an old school you get too
old school. East Coast West Coast veterans kicking it on various issues and sometimes we argue a debating that's that's what the fun foreign part of the bouty. You see it from my old school perspective. I do too, but from the East coast versus West coast thing, and it
always makes for a hot topic. And then also I have an app called the Compton Entertainment Entertainment Chamber app available on Android and iPhone, uh, because I'm the president of the Compton Entertainment Chamber of Commerce and I'm working on the on the Walk of Fame to show love to all my folks that made Compton what it is, so please support that and um that's Compton Entertainment Chamber. It's an app iPhone and uh Android, and we're gonna bring a Walk of Fame to the City of Compton.
That's gonna be dope. That's incredible. Miles. Of course, fan, thanks for sitting down with us. Much love. You know how we do it. Peace, folks,
