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On this episode of TGC, The guys speak on the Joshua Brown murder, the LA gang peace talks and some Big Suge rumors. Big James also breaks down why we are falling apart as as a society and he talks about former Death Row Attorney David Kenner. Make sure you come out and support TGC's first live appearance. Visit www.thegangsterchroniclespodcast.com to see Reggie before he goes on vacation for 8 months. The ticket price is $20!!!! This price includes the show, the Q&A and other special events Support the show. See omnystudio.com/policies/listener for privacy information.

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You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, RIXI Rei Jr. And Alex to Monso on the Digital Soup much network material, witness on an aggregated battery, I was a hang gun and um, they believe this may be in retaliation to our testimony. Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening wherever you may be listening to, Welcome to another episode, another edition of The Gangster Chronicles. You are listening to Alex Alonso from Street TV a k a.

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Facebook and Instagram. At Instagram, he's at Reggie dot Right dot Jr. And you can find me Alex Alonso at street Gangs dot com. Just click on the contact button and you can find all my links there. But I'm on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook at Alex Alonso one zero one. So let's get into us on act checks from from last week. Last week, I said that the North Daniels and the Sounnial conflict that started in nineteen six eight

was over a shoe that was stolen out of the cell. Now, some people hit me up and said it really wasn't about the shoe, and that person is partially correct. The North Daniels and the Sounennials were already going at it, but when that shoe was stolen out of the cell from that North Daniel, uh, it just took it to the next level. So technically it wasn't the beginning of the conflict between the North and the South, but it certainly kicked it off. But as of last year, two

thousand and eighteen, that conflict is over. Um last week we talked about the Fresnel Bulldogs there was a little bit of confusion if they were Northerners if they were Southerners. So I did a little research and found out they were Northerners at first, but then they broke away from the North and became Southerners for a little while. Mexican mafia did not embrace them after a short time, and then that's when they decided to go independent. So they're

they're independent. They're the only like prison gang that's independent Mexican prison gang that's independent from the north or the south. So, um, that's that history. And then last week we mentioned Johannes Messerly who shot Oscar Grant in the back. Uh, there was some issue about how old he was. He was actually twenty six years old when that happened in two thousand nine, and Oscar Grant was just twenty two when that happened. Um. Also, the we we were talking about

what was the jury like? I think you brought that up, James. What was the jury like of Amber Geiger? I looked it up. Of the twelve jury members and the four alternates, seven were black, which was pretty impressive. Seven were black. Well, they didn't report the alternates, So we're talking about sixteen jurors. So this is seven of all of them. I don't know if the twelve, but seven were black, five were

non black but of color, and four were white. And and I don't know everybody I mentioned that too, is like, ain't nothing wrong with it? I think it's some room with it, you know what I'm saying. Because if that was a black man up there are black woman up there, then it would have been way different. You got black people like, is this is it's okay convicting us man, we don't have a chance. We don't have a chance. It's rough out there when you when you get black

people against you. This man ain't never did nothing, ain't did nothing to nobody, And you get this lady ten years. Well, the same people that convicted him, I mean convicted her, are the same people that gave the sentence to So we're we're applauding them for finding her guilty and murder, but we're not happy with the same people that just said ten years you know, and listen to it the

whole time. Yeah, but but she ain't. When did she go through a psych and and and she did, she had to get evaluated the police chance, and did she give. You didn't go through probation like we do out here. Okay, so she ain't fleading insanities. They have a different course of some out here. Everything is something different but different. I mean, I'm just saying, it's just it's it's you ever been sentenced by a jury and California, have you ever heard a video home with this line up by

a jury sentence? Well, motherfuck sat guilty and and they and they impose the sentence as well, Yeah they got Usually the judge actually does the sentence in California State Court and say how much time are you're gonna get? You know, whole not Yeah, But what I'm saying is, yeah, not the jury, but the jury decided. I'm okay, but that and that's the problem. And the judge actually has the authority to overwrite the sentence of the jury. So

the judge agreed. It's kind of hard to argue it because you had a jury of color, you had a judge of color, and you had other people of color that were part of this trial. And that's what it is. So I know you feel you're feeling upset because you had all these black people that helped find Amber Geiger guilty. The district attorney was also black, and at the end of yeah, one of the one of the prosecutors was black, and we got a guilty verdict, but we only got

ten years. I mean, I wanted to see more more, a little bit more time for for that. I think the whole case was crazy. You got the brother Hugg and his woman, You got the judge Hugg and his woman. You got this woman only getting ten years. Then right after the trial, you got um, um, this boy bought them Brown bought them. Oh, you're talking about Joshua. Josh the boy just got killed. We'll talk about that a

little bit. But I'm just saying only one. Yeah, all of these different things that happened, and this lady got to him. Now they say this lady can file for I just said it, appeal bond and not do no time at all. What she would be on the street while while while Bob didn't go through? But I mean, man, is that justice? Nah? I don't think so. But hey, at least an on dude, now she was actually off duty. But at least a cop was found guilty of murder.

You know, I mean, you gotta have more than that, man, because this is a life that ain't did nothing to nobody. This man was in his own house. But how do you feel that the brother is forgiving bought them John's brothers forgiving Amber. And this is where I'm telling you it gotta be something more to it. It's called a believer. That's what it's called the hardcore Christians. And look, if you're really a Christian and if you really about them scriptures,

you have to forgive. You know that, I vote for yourself. I don't know why mama didn't where mama didn't go hugger. Mama's on another level, man, my mama didn't go or yeah, but I'm just if you're a Christian, if you're a true Christian, you cannot judge or criticized Botham John's brother for hugging Amber Gager. I wouldn't have done it. But you can't hate on it if you're if you're saying you're a Christian, you can't hate on that. There right so many ways you can give her as a Christian.

You don't have to go and hugg her, you don't have to talk to it, you don't have to give her a Bible said God love you. That the judge did that. And how many times have you seen the judge give a bible to one of the home is after being convicted of murder works she worked in the system, she probably know it from coming in. Probably probably all right, let me finish the rest of these UH fact checks from last week. UM. Amber Gager actually did lie on

the stand when she testified. She said she gave botham John j e a n that's French. For those people who think I'm saying John, I'm saying John, or if you want to call him Jeanne bought them Jean commands to show his hand. But his neighbor Joshua Brown said, I heard the whole thing, and I never heard that woman saying any commands. All I heard was shooting. So if you start, yeah, we're gonna talk about Joshua Brown

in a minute. And then UM, one of the UH we talked about some of the racist posts that she that she posted on different social media sites. I won't repeat the one from last week. If you want to hear the one I said from last week, go back to episode. But there was another one she wrote this was amongst other officers. Officer Rivera sent a text to Amber Gager saying, damn, I was in this area with five different black officers. Amber Gager response, not racist, but damn.

So that was one of the posts that came in. If when you start off a sentence by saying not racist, that's pretty racist. Racist ship, Yeah, you could kill that that that this lady is race. She's completely and sensitive to black This is black officers, by the way, this is if you were on the scene, Reggie, Right, she's talking about you, but other black officers, they all talk about black white cops talk about but you make Yeah,

they do not standards right. But but but she was such a racist like that, Well, she been living in an apartment of complex that apparently had that. There are different levels of race being racist. Also you want to live among them. How many black people lived in their Reggie, I don't know, but we know, don't make but we're just learning. We're just three with all three the lady that video tape, that bonny or a bunny okay, and then the one that got killed okay, three three, and

the whole apartment. I'm just saying, we know that's all that they came up with. Ain't nowhere in the world, ain't nowhere in the world she would have been living among them, she would have what she gonna go. You gotta live among blacks. Where you going. I don't think that doesn't make you not racist because you live in an area that diverse to get away from him. This is two thousand and nine. I think personally she had a relationship with this young man and the brother, and

they all interacted. This is why the brother hugged it. They were all because they were forgives. No forgiving. Don't let me do any evidence that came up there that Dathan Bond and Amber Gager were connected. What they said when they gave, when first happened, No, after she was sitting the ten years they were trying to figure with the heat of passion or else what they call it. Reggie comes okay, So if it wasn't, so, how can you say it was and it wasn't now a passionate defense.

Don't don't don't mix me up. I am not saying that these people was a relationship or even what I'm saying. I heard there was some noise complaints that were made and stuff like that, but I do not believe that these two were in any type of relationships or even and ain't nobody's gonna believe that this is the first time she ever interacted with that young man. Nobody, Well, that would have been all over the trial exactly. You know that wouldn't because ain't nobody are not not just

bumping how you're doing? Well? I know what you're saying that if you're saying a relationship, James is talking about how how you doing? You know? And then mind you, a lot of stuff was was not being was not able. They weren't able to speak on it. That's true. That suppressed certain things and we don't know, we don't know the stuff that suppressed. So this in a mama's interview. And then mama pretty much chelling you. But then she gave because she don't want to get in trouble. And

the civil case would have told all of that. Now they weren't. I mean, we we know we got three people that like to smoke weed, and so maybe they were. What we got to do with it. My point is that's the only thing that connects the three, not not Botham John. He smoke weed too, Is that right? I didn't hear any evidence that Botham John was. Okay, they

want to get high together. Let's smoke wayed together. Who knows, Maybe it's no other people texted each other when they have relationship or communicate with each other, not just hey, yeah, that would have came out. So you're in the blue uniform coming to my apartment and let's smoke some weed together. That would have came out in the trial. I didn't. He said there was three of them smoking weed. I

just said, it's three weeds. We know that now, said Amberg got cart That's why she didn't get hired originally. So she got mad at him because he, uh, you take the blood and he killed right now? All right,

all right, so let's get to a couple of these topics. Um. The first thing I want to talk about real quick, not to we won't spend too much time on this, but last week the East Coast Crips and the Kitchen Crips, the eight seven Kitchen Crips, came to a truce after their thirty eight year conflict that started in ninety one when a little beaver from eight seven Kitchen got killed at a party from buy an East Coast cript. Um. So they had some meetings and basically, I know you're

very familiar with the kitchens. Did you know little beaver I went to Probably I knew the majority of all those guys over there. I don't know the youngsters, these new No. No, little beaver that got killed in eighty one is what sparked the whole conflict with the East Coast crips. And the story that I was told is that that little beaver was actually trying to kill the East Coast cript and it's guns. And then the East Coast crypto pulled his gun out killed a little beaver

right there at this party. You know what I can I can see about that time was when I can sit there and tell you about a whole bunch of you know, guys on the east side of the fence that this happened to. One of particulars is a little Buttons was my granddaddy's nem neighbor. I knew him since he was a baby. He was fourteen years old. And and the complex back then where I'm talking about shooting every day, this was the everyday thing. This is when it was coming to Drew Junior High and and and

and the wars was on. Um. It's to be in a situation, man, you can't break out of it. You can't go this way and you can't go that way. You couldn't go to school some of the damn time. That's why a lot of us just hung out. You know what I'm saying, what they've been beating for a long time. And you know, I don't want to name all of these guys that you know, keep players and ship in that because you know, I know a whole bunch of Kitchens. I know a whole bunch of Swans.

I know a couple of casts that I ran into that was East Coast. But you know, it's it's a wake up call, man, for these guys. Just think, man, we didn't lost too many black man behind this ship. And I applaud and everybody else should applaud these guys for stepping up and said we're tired of this ship. I agree, I agree, we gotta give a little dock again for six nineties coasts. Porky from Kitchen Kitchen mo And I mean, I wish I could remember all you

guys names. I know I'm missing a whole bunch of names because there was you know, there was dozens of people at the table. You know, you got still build from kitchen. Oh smokey o g smoky from kitchen. Yeah you got, uh you got. You got so many cats over there, man, that that played a big part of that. You know what I'm saying. Cats that's still doing time in prison. So you gotta think about all of this ship that's going on, and how the guys in prison field.

You know what I'm saying, You got a whole lot of lives lost over one situation. Bloods and cryp. You know what I'm saying. One thing, we got to realize we ain't getting no month, no check for it. We ain't we ain't moving up in the world. But what we're doing killing each other. We looked, we looked silly. And and these guys just waking up. Man. We're trying to our kids got to grow up on these streets, and our kids are getting killed. If y'all ain't seen it,

you're still the old g But my son just got killed. Man, Come on, let's stop. Let's stop losing our kids. And these dudes woke up and everybody they gotta put they gotta they just gotta keep doing it, keep believing that this can be done. You know what I'm saying. Six months from now. Let's look, let's look far ahead. It's changing.

The game is changing now in the streets of l at and I got a lot of kids out there that that don't have that that big homie, that just don't care mentality, and and that's what's gonna kill it. That's nothing, nothing's gonna kill it. The momentum is too strong right now, and we're at a point where a lot of these o g s at Afford and over they're gonna start to outnumber those voices that are not

with it. And actually, I can tell you this. There was a little skirmish that happened between the Florences and the East Coast Is about a week ago, and they nipped it in the bud. I don't want to go into too many details, but they nipped it in the bud before it could explod old. And that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, that's what you got to do. One thing. You'll be more successful when you have these meetings. No no, no marijuana, no getting high, no drinking. We

ain't kicking it over here. And then we're going to a meeting. Come on, you ain't thinking right, you know what I'm saying stay sober and and and let's just be positive on what what we need to do in saving lives. This ain't about no game banging ship no more. So let's keep it on a positive note. It ain't about the kitchens, and it ain't about the East Coast. It ain't about the seven oh, I mean if their teams.

So let's stop making that the big part of it and just make it where there's nothing but men getting together trying to defuse a situation that's been going on for them here for the years. You know, what a lot of people say in these discussions is that this is bigger than me. This is bigger than our hood. It's like you just said, it ain't it ain't just about East Coast or kitchen of Florena. This is a bigger the bigger picture. You know. The Hood don't give

you nothing. The Hood don't give you nothing. The Hood don't do number takeaway period. Okay, um let's um Takashi's back in the news. His trial ended and they found those two brothers guilty a few days ago last Friday, I believe they were found guilty. That would be Anthony Ellison and al Jeremiah mac were both found guilty of racketeering. Mr mac was also found guilty of conspiring to distribute drugs and Mr Ellison was convicted of the kidnapping of Takashi, maiming,

and assault. But they were also acquitted of some of the charges, so it's not a lose lose situation for them. But I think the stuff they were convicted of there's enough. There's enough to wash them up. Um. I think the interesting thing here is they pushed Takashi's sentencing date to December eighteen, and there was a report that he doesn't

want any protective I mean, not protective custody. He doesn't want witness protection, which is a suggestion that he feels like witness protection is only for people who are free, so he doesn't want witness protection. But we'll find out more after a sentencing. He's gonna get out and go right back over there. Dad, that little boy he wanted to die. Ain't nowhere where if anybody agreed to him, no witness protection, because they'll let you walk out of

there and going back to doing what you're doing. Now you think he can survived in the streets. I don't think he's not gonna go back to his his part of Brooklyn right away, where you're gonna go. I'm America's big man, the Sammity Bill Gravano. When he testified he moved all the way to Arabs from New York. He moved to Arizona, almost three thousand miles away, and that's where he ended up bringing his family and raising the

rest of his his kids. And he can't go out of the country because they ain't gonna give his passport. And yeah, he's not eligible to even go to Canada or Mexico. He'll he'll find some corner of America to post up, get online, post do his videos, do his music, get his beats emailed to him by somebody in Europe. Don't never do no concerts, concerts, but it can still stream. I think you can do concerts abroad well and form

if he can get pass forward. Oh yeah, that's right. Well, if he's released and he's his case is done, dude, I still don't believe they're gonna give him time, sir. I still believe he's gonna do about five years to seven years. But he's still gonna be on supervised release and he about to have a probation, you know, probation officer or whatever. I don't think they're gonna give him his passport um, but they may. They're gonna make some money. Look,

they got there what they wanted. They got their convictions, they got um. Still gotta have credibility of the court and the course. That's not gonna let you just walk on that on those type of charges, I agree, but shoot, when you let a guy like samuy the boat sent federal court, same court actually in New York, they left Sam in the bowl walk big five years for nineteen murders because they got their man, John Gotti. And this ain't nowhere near you know, a John Gotti case. So

he just got a prison. He did Samon the bullet five. We didn't disappear. He moved to Arizona and started selling ecstasy and caught another case. But he just he just got out of that case last year. So I think that Takashi is gonna get a sweet deal for cooperating anything. I say a sweet deal, was like, yeah, that that's a lot of trumped up charges though that's that forty seven.

I'm gonna make a prediction here on December eighteen, Takashi is gonna get sentenced to to thirty six months, because you know, the FEDS like to give you your time and months. I said, he's gonna get thirty six months here, he's gonna have already a year credit. So that's my prediction. Thirties three years. What about you, um, Reggie in the five range, six months, sixty months? What about you, James?

I don't know you. I thought it was getting out in January, but what he did requested to think at the trial, they moved to December from January. So maybe I wouldn't be surprised if you got time served with some sort of ankle bracelet monitoring for the next couple of years. But I'm gonna go thirty six months. He's already a year into a sentence. Well we'll see, all right. Um. We briefly mentioned joshre Brown early in the beginning of the show. Um. Initially everyone on social media was like,

this is a conspiracy. How does the witness that called him the star witness of the Amber Geiger trial, the one that said he heard the whole thing and she didn't give commands, gets murdered a week and a half later. It's like, it's like unheard of Reggie in the game. You're in the game, you always take the notes. No chance. Well, we didn't know he was in the in the game until some recently. He had been ad been shot before,

he had been shot a year before. Okay, he was a victim of uh and some some type of shoes and everybody want to make it like he just all of a sudden, And also I got shot. He was doing a drug deal and he shot someone. First, he was the shooter who shot one of the guys in the car, and then their home boys. Here's home boy return fire and shot him. So this is sort of like a baby Lane thing I read I know, all

over YouTube and stuff like that. I ain't seen that nowhere. Okay, well, well the but no, um, yeah, so he's the victim, he's really the guys might get off on some self defense ship. Okay, so the assistant chief offers more with y'all coniracy, conspiracy. Just all of a sudden, this man get killed, knocked down. Now you got three more motherfucker's involved.

I mean from Louisiana. It just tells you accident. Why the dude gotta came from Louisiana, notr CALLI but the Dallas to get some good weed or to get some piles of weeds. Those are the cours that need to be or did they just go to Louisiana to escape? They took it four hour drive to him. So these guys are from the state of Louisiana. Okay, all right, let's let's let me just say what the they announced. They said that Jaquarius Mitchell and Michael diaz Um we're

taken into custody in Louisiana by US Marshal's. A third suspect, Daddy is Charles Green, remains on the loose as of this broadcast. So the three people are involved in this homicide according to the Dallas Police Department. You know, you don't worry about that about the man won't been at the hospital and getting the arrested. No, but they did

announce that this was a drug deal gone bad. So even even though we got suspects arrest that people are still thinking that something smells here, something not right in this media YouTube social media conspiracy world. You are to I'm not a conspiracor at all. So this man shot first and they returns fir in a in a drug deal, don't see, No nothing wrong with what the men did. Well if if that's the If that's the case, then um, conspiracy theorists are gonna have a tough time trying to

link this to the police if that's true. A lot of people are saying the police knocked them down for testifying against Amber. But I would say that if they really wanted to get him, get him before he testifies, not after he testifies. Right, that makes no sense, Okay, because everybody knows this big civil sl coming up, and and so they'll be like, Okay, they gotta get rid of him because he can you know, he gonna mess up the the police department civil suits. That's just what

the namesayers will say. That couldn't be possible, not if everything is the facts that I reported. Just like the way with the way that that some of these police officers are acting on the street, what you're stopping it for whatever? Well, if the police were really involved in the killing of of Joshua Joshua Davis, why wouldn't they

have done it before the trial. It don't make sense to for him to testify against Amber Geiger and then kill him after the trial, right rag, Yeah, I agree, But you know, for the naysayers or you know, just to try to play devils advocate um. People will say, well, the civil trial was about to come up and that they needed, um, you know, get rid of him because he was going to hurt the Dallas Police Department or

the city of Dallas in that lawsuit. Don't you think it's possible though that he would have so apparently was good just say that they wanted him out of there. So man, Mr Brown, he hurt. He hurt um. You know her statements because she was saying that he said, you know, gave some commands and he said he never heard the commands and so. And he talked about hearing him singing gospel music, so he obviously had a line to hearing everything that was going on in his apartment.

You know, he talked about everything that was already testified about. So he confirmed a lot of the stuff that he would be doing as an apartment. And just for the record, I don't believe any of that. I'm just saying why I understand what people are saying about. He couldn't hurt the Dallas Police depart So you don't believe that Joshua Davis could really hear everything that's going on in Botham Gene's apartment. No, No, I believe that I lived in

apartments before. I have never lived in an apartment before, but I have visited people that lived in apartments before, So I know how stumping and music from from the top to the to the bottom floor and all of that. How you can hear dan and everything going on in someone's apartment. Well, let me say that I can entertain a very logical conspiracy, you know, Like I don't believe a plane ever crashed into the Pentagon in two thousand one. I think it's a little bit too early for everybody

to jump out on this as a conspiracy. But there's still a lot of things that I'd like to know about Joshua Davis getting shot, Like I haven't heard from many of these three suspects. I'm sorry, Joshua, Joshua Brown, Joshua Brown. Um, there should be a camera in the parking a lot of where this thing took place at. There should be some footage of this, you know, And that's that's Let's just remember, guys, there's three other people. There's still a lot that's gonna have to be able

to tell the story. I know the suspects in this case. But Dallas Police Department is not going to bank themselves on three year old black, black, black guys. They're not that stupid, Okay, if this, if the Dallas narrative is true, they're basically painting Joshua Brown as he he was a little gangster. And if he was a little gangster, does that challenge his testimony against Amber Geiger? Can she appeal

to say, look, this killer or an attempted killer. If the Dallas narrative is true, James testified against me in a court case where I got ten years in prison, and I'm gonna argue that I got found guilty mostly because of this guy's testimony. He I think they already knew that though I think they already knew he was a little shaity. You know, this was a victim of

a gunshot. You know, not saying the people to get shot are bad people, but generally there's some circumstances when you got shot got shot before in the past, um and you wasn't just a victims generally you were out hanging and doing it. So they know a little bit about his past. I believe to say that he had twelve pounds of marijuana setting up in the department at the time, or he was dealing like that. I don't think they knew that matter how he was living at

the time. He just his question was I agree, James, it doesn't matter. But in the legals justice system, all that stuff comes in LUPO they use because right now today I've been out of prisoner. If I catch a case right now, they're gonna use everything I've done at sixteen, all the way until now. That's the first thing to normally do is I remember on our boy Trayvon, Trayvon Morton, they attacked his school records. They won it a penis a school records and his attendance and all of that.

They trying to dirty Mackie. I'm just trying to say, how you know, unfortunately law enforcement do you they try to mess your your name up or discredit your you know, your background. And it's a cool thing because this man is dead, you know what I'm saying. So nobody nobody speak about the police. How do you? How do you attack you? You know what I'm saying that you and

the police, it's it's usually the media, the media, the prosecutors. Well, yeah, and those tactics are fucked because they shouldn't do that. You know how you going to atys? Yeah, put some some bad on the you know, somebody just did well. So on this case right here with these three guys. If these three guys are like they're saying, and he shot one and in the chest and he lost his life behind it some totally different, some totally different, can't can't go around it or whatever. But if not, then

I mean, you know this ship has happened before. Well, Michael Mitchell's thirty two, and his nephew Jaquarius Mitchell, Choius Mitchell is the one that's in critical condition in the Dallas hospital right now. So um so they said. One of the guys is talking though, right because they have to know who, why, who shot Why he shot this one twice so he landed. The one that's laying down is the one that's actually saying, he shot me twice and I can still here while laying in the back.

He might have done it what's called a dying declaration in California. I don't know if they have that in Texas well, they don't know if if you're in critical condition, but you can die. The one in the the one that got shot first, he got when they got here, the one that hopped out the car. Uh Brown Pop pop Poper. He falls in the back seat. At each old him get back in. He falls back in the car and he can still. I just played the thing. So he's saying that he's laying down in the back.

He said, he said he made he drawing down to get in the back seat of the car. And then and he said he but he shot the one that when he was out fighting with. That's the one that he shot. The one that he was fighting with, got in the fight with. So is the one that's in the hospital and critical condition, the one that was fighting with Joshua Brown. That would be Jaquarius Mitchell. He's just twenty years old, youngster, youngster. And then um well, Michael Mitchell,

his uncle is thirty two. And Daddy's Green, who is still at large. Well, I'm not sure if he's still at large as of today or if they already got him in custody. Daddy has Green is twenty two, another youngster man. It just seems the timing of this just seems crazy. He just testified in one of the biggest trials in the country and then ends up murdered in a drug and then what they're saying is a drug

deal gone bad. Once again, you got tragedy. But you still gotta say, Okay, man, you we gotta learn from these mistakes. We're not learning. We're talking about them, we're discussing the ship, but we're not learning. We're not learning. We're not taking heed to what the hill is really going on. Our lives don't mean shit, and and and ain't nobody in this room. It's six black people in his motherucker and I can't nobody say a life matter,

you know what I'm saying. And then we criticize the things like the East Coast and the kitchens and all of these these guys, these organizations getting together and cease fire. We criticized that, but we we overlook and just discuss what's happening to us. That ain't cool. We gotta understand what the fun is going on and take heed to it and then apply ourselves to what's really going on. Man. Don't think things are changing for the better though. I mean, we had a jury. We had a trial where the

judge was black, one of the prosecutors was black. They had majority black that don't matter. Some black people just don't get it. If this is nineteen fifty and but guy, but would have been walking right nineteen fifty, two thousand and not even nineteen fifty. We don't got to go back to nineteen fifth prior to and we gotta give

cow capital Um Cabernet, Compynet some credit. I really believe that this social you youngsters on the social media and all of that is bringing awareness, uh to the justice system until law enforcement to say, hey, we're not going to tolerate that. There's been a lot of cops that's been put on trial in the last two to the to the three years that wouldn't have been put on trial. Um if it wasn't for social media, I really believe, or just the cameras so media, you know, you can't

you can't let them all go. Somebody gotta be escapegoats, Somebody gotta be, you know what I'm saying, accountable for it. And then when they're accountable for they're not getting that much time, They're not getting life in prison, you know what I'm saying. So it's up to us. Man, we're sitting there, killed, stretched out there. You know you're not getting what I'm saying, giving black judge a lot of um flat. But maybe we need to think about we're

not giving her black ass nothing. That woman shouldn't have. How many judges you know, come off the stand and hug a convicted felon. I wish they'd hug me, because I wouldn't be as bad as I was. Now. Somebody loved me. They somebody killed. She was a public servant said they probably knew each other. They probably personally knew each other. I knew a lot of judges. All right. See there, y'all go. That's why I say the talk.

Everybody has to be accountable. I mean, if you got, if you got a bad cop, you treat that cop just like this bad criminal, this bank Robert, this gang banger that's killed his cousin or whomever, you treat him like that. You don't treat her no better. What a mistake this is, It don't matter if it was a mistake. A life has lost, Reggie, you gotta pay for it. Unfortunate it's a black man that's dead, which they don't give a fuck. This lady only got ten years for

this man life. I'm worth more than that. Come on, man, I understand that part. I'm worth more than ten years. I'm dead though, my kids, my everybody. I'm going away from that accident. And then now she can go through the loophole through papers. I don't care for his accident. You actually didn't kill a black man to see how much time you can again, it depends on how I do it. I'm sure accident. Accident is an accident. Negligence is another thing, and premeditate it is a third thing.

Don't matter man, well, Texas glad. I don't live in your world, Texas kound of guilty of first. I live in the world of understanding. I live in the world that I know the cards against me. And this is one thing we really need to do. Everybody out there know that the police got the power and and and with my understanding years ago, I know they got the pen. Everything they write in this motherfucker is gonna be saying in court now. You gotta understand what they're doing. And

you gotta play that game to a certain extent. If you want to survive or live in the streets, you got to give up that slack. If you don't, you're gonna get your ass. Whooped? Are you gonna get killed out there. Well, like I said, were and I'm not giving the judge the one that uh that the determined that ten years was the was the correct number. That's not the point. It's not the point. Whether she gave

the lady descentence or not, that don't matter. That black judge read the newspapers and see what the fun happened to hurt people to black people all around America, all arounda's got damn world. Then you're gonna get off the stand and go hug this lady. I wouldn't give a if she was white. She could have been a Messican, she could have been an Indian, she could have been a Chinese. That just don't happen. It don't happen. So she didn't have to be It didn't have to be

no racist ship. But she shouldn't. She should have kept that and went to the back about the time. So we we we're fighting over apples. I'm talking about the hood, the hugging, the hug I'm just saying what she did. It's talking about that. I'm talking about the time. That's not cool. Going to back to the Joshua Joshua Brown situation, How often does people from Louisiana make a five hour

drive to get some weeds. Man, if it's yourn easier way to get the weeds, if you'll connect, if you're connected that far, you're gonna go that far to get it. You got cats coming from her tex don't matter. Stay close to the border of Texas. But it's a little small, small town. I have some stories about Alexander. And you got cash coming from from from Mississippi to here to pick up the ship and go home with it. It's just that bad. They don't have the grade that California got.

And I don't know why, you know what I'm saying that all these things. I don't know why you got the richest soil and the indoors. You know, we go ahead they you know, they versus the outdoors, and and you know the white boys, the white boys got the game. But also the soil in northern California produces not just the best weed, but all kind of crops. But you talk about outdoors, yeah, and most dudes, most gettle niggas don't even funk with outdoors. That's mainly what the Mexicans have.

But that's the chief they call that regular. All that stuff on the nigga smelling when you'd be you'd be getting in their cars and you feel that good. That's that indoor grows, you know, even even on the weird ship. Motherfucker's go for smell the post to high really taste. You know what I'm saying that I ain't never smoked, but I had some ship where it was sticky, sticky and smell good. They wanted that opposed to, you know,

the bomb ship. So they So it's not unusual for some guys, small little town in Louisiana to pull up and when they pull up in Dallas, Dallas is probably a huge city to them. They probably got a lot of outdoor, a lot of trash out there and stuff like that. But that dude probably had some connect where he was doing some indoor and he had some good quality, high great marijuana and Dallas is crazy too, Yeah, they or anything that's so, do you think there's something fishy

about this story? James, about how this brother end up gunned down? Is early and and listening to the things that were listening to and listening to these tapes and all of that. I say this, this, this situation has to develop before anybody can just really speak on it. But if I had to speak on it right now, I would say it's fishy. But I can't do that because there's so much other stuff involved. So I'm not gonna be a hypocrite. And then I have to come

back and say, let me clear this up. Now. I gotta go and bomb first and say did some ship wrong. I just said something I don't know, So I mean, we just gotta wait and see. Well, we definitely gotta wait and hear what the twenty year old Jaquarius Mitchell's got to say. The guy that's in the hospital, hopefully he makes it. They say critical condition, so well if he if if if he if he make it, then

they're good. But if he passed, one or the other two are gonna say something because they're looking at big big time. Hey, I think it'd be real fishy. If Jaquarius Mitchell ends up dying, I'm gonna say, okay, uh, this guy is dead. We got the other dude, dad. If if one guy is still on the run, the other two were the other one that's called, they gotta you gotta do the whole thing now. If he come up missing and then they find the other one and he did quote dead and we got a problem, well

something difference. I wonder if if well that's a whole lot of kids, if the Aquarius dies, can his uncle be charged with that death? Because they do that here in California sometimes they call it the felony murderer. Um. Well they said they're going to at the capital murder warrants. Um. But you know, law enforcement do overcharged sometime. And I can see a good defense attorney, uh doing a self defense on a self defense on a defense for the

three young man. Hey, right now, if if if, if you decide you want to shoot James and I pulled my gun out and shoot you, or you pull your gun out shot James and I pulled my gun out and shoot you. That's pretty much the U. Well y'all got me do. But you know when isn't that kind of like self defense? Yeah? Because the next person that Jane usue probably would have been me. He was gonna point that guys, only shift defends I people just going out and shoot me and I shoot him back. What

that has to do with you? It can do me because because who's next? Well, you could use the police theory. I fear for my life. Use theory that I fear for my life because I just saw the future and there's a good chance he's about to eliminate the witness from my priss practice in my experience, get rid of everybody.

So I can see a good defense attorney making a self self defense for both of the Mitchells that are the Only problem is they were committing a felony to get to that point, and they have that in California. We have that felony murder rule, which they kind. But did they get caught with all the drugs because they got away? No, they dropped They dropped him off. And it's still unclear to me who's who's the world when they rid of the guy. Yeah, I hadn't really sat

down to figure out who. Well. Let me read something that the attorney for Botham John's family said today. He says, I have no reason to believe that the Dallas police conclusion that their conclusions so far in the investigation are unreliable, but I believe some members of the community will have a difficult time accepting it because of his association with the Amber Geiger trial. So that comes from the attorney for the family of both Botham John and Brown the

guy that was killed. So the attorney is accepting the Dallas police story so far. James, I know you disappointed in that, right, you know, it just something that just yeah, but something God damn how many black people you knew that literally like act like that. You know this Texas, So anything is possible. I guess. I don't know, man, I know you're gonna say there's a zero percent chance that his death Joshua Davis is connected to Amber Gaga trial.

Zero percent chance, right, that is connected. Some of the people will say, well damn, which I think James answered earlier, or maybe you asked that, why would you go and wait this long? No, why would you go and purchase some weed from somebody that's been all on the TV and then this big, high profile case. Some people might say that, you know, sometimes you kind of might want

to stay away with from that person like that. But what I know is when you gotta connect, and that's your connect, they used to go to them, but usually you don't fight what you connect either. So that will show me that maybe the deal was one connected like that, and maybe they were just about the roblem. So I would like to know the history of how long they've been dealing with each other. That's what I wanted to know.

If they had a relationship. Did these guys come from to Dallas normally to pick up there there's somebody somebody else, somebody to talk to, somebody, trust me, they got phone Texas, they got some conversations. It's all gonna come out in the next few months. And then especially if you if you don't know the motherfucking you know what I'm saying, and you see three cats, you don't just come out with with with ship and just all right here give me the money with woo, come on, manage it's rules,

do it so? I mean, I mean, if he had twelve pounds upstairs and he only came out with one, they got twelve pounds after them talking about the suspects only got one from him. The only correct this is what I'm working with. Okay, that's all they had money for. We don't know, we don't know the did you guys hear the good point? It could have been just a show and tell. After Joshua testified, did you hear the

judge actually say I'm surprised he showed up? It was it got caught on the audio, but it's real low. So the judge was actually surprised that Joshua even came and testified. Oh yeah, he was subpoenu Yeah, but the judge actually said after he finished, she says, on it, I'm surprised he showed up because a lot of people was like, if you're in the game and you're doing that, why would you come in uh and come to a court of appearance. He went the game. He was subpoena.

He was the reason. So they knew his history. So you know, still Dallas p d was still mad at him, though, I'm should have had to have some sort of negative view, like the nerve of this drug dealer, we're coming to court to testified. He should have just not answered the subpoena or something more disappeared but a question. But you gotta remember that. Let me just say this right quick. That was the secutor that that that you I mean attorney, I mean the d A forcing him to come. Well,

that prosecuted Ember. It wasn't like it was a state attorney that came down or outside attorney. The local d A is the one that prosecuted her. So it wasn't like the police department was so, and maybe the police union was, but not the investigators and stuff like that. That was work in the case investigators and they fired the right away. You remember, these are a black Rand department, this is a black Rand city. Were gonna say, James,

I gotta, I gotta. I got a question. And I want to say this first, I know all cops ain't bad cops black r white. How many percent did Dr Dre say were crooking in that famous interview he said the same thing, Not all cops are crooking only about I know, I know through history and and and we all seen cricket cops. They've been on the news. Okay, what I'm saying is all I mean bad. All I mean bad. I know some good ones. I know some

good ones, but everything kind of our wear itself. Because you got black cops, and I want you to tell me, yes and know that that that pretty much right with what the white guys are doing to us. Like being on the police car one time, the white cops is talking ship now here, You've got this black cop come and hit you with a stick. Dumbass nickers. You know

what I'm saying. It's crazy. What I'm trying to say, is I don't black cops going rock and roll with that white cops, regardless if you're wrong or not, you will you will be surprised that you know who to do that in front of, and who not to you know what black cops to do stuff like that in front of, and which black ops you know not to do that in front of? And and and there's a lot of white cops you can't do that in front in front of because they didn't tolerate it as well.

But you have a percentage of cops that that was brutal or heavy handed is what we used to call him. Show within the police force, they have clicks. They know who who who I'm riding with you, I'm not riding with him because he don't agree with certain tactics, and and and that's where everything gets sucked up, you know

what I'm saying. Can't nobody ever say that some of these guys myself ain't victims of police of utility, that we are not victim to you know, getting killed like like just just because and and and there's nobody getting time for it. Nobody's getting time for it. More and more cops are are getting sent to prison and that if we wake up, if we really wake up, like like like now, just these gang toosers and all of this ship. If we wake up, those troosers change a

lot of ship. You're rewriting history because it changed a lot of ship, because a gang mentality brains a lot of bullshit to your neighborhood. Without all that, a whole bunch of ship changes a whole lot of people are safe. You see what I'm saying. And that's what these guys got to realize. I'm saving lives by rocking with this truth. That's what everybody got to realize. We're saving lives every goddamn day that we don't fight that we ain't out there in the car doing the drive by, We ain't

posted up at a liquor store. We ain't, you know. I'm just how do we how do we get past the half as bullshit that the police bring to each city, to each neighborhood, the ones that ain't no good? How do we depict and and and and and get them the funk out the city and and then and move on?

And like I always said, and I said in a couple of podcasts earlier, it's the only way that I know, just to try to take as much as you can on the streets and complain, because what I know about the police department that I worked at when I was a police officer. The first time generally should happened to you that somebody come in and complain. The second time and eye brawl is raised, well you get the third plain complaint the same type of bulls. Yet, Yeah, they're

coming down. They're coming down on you. My uncle went in and the police belice, No, I ain't gonna use my uncle's I'm gonna use one of my club brothers. We're on a hunting and Nathan Broadway, our motorshop club. I think it's seventy seven down the street. The police department is down the street. Goes in there and complain about these cops keep coming over here tripping. The police told them to get the out station sergeant. Know the sergeant.

You gotta request the sergeant I want to file complain against So that he wanted to know what they complain about what he did with the womb. So he went into detail a little bit and told him this is why I will how do I get the farm too back? He told them to get out of there. So what I'm saying is police officers police themselves. I got your back.

I don't care what these internal on fair departments, the big, big, big agency see that s that's the ship that people need to learn how to get to that that that complaint out when the police make you get out of the out of the station. And then because once they make you get the station, you fun this ship. I actually filed a police report, a complaint last week against the l A p D. Actually, they pulled me over and then they handcuffed me because I wouldn't keep my

rear windows down. I found out. I learned that I don't have to roll down any window. I could just roll down the window a half inched to give them my driver's license, my registration and insurance. But they asked me to roll down my rear windows. I actually did, but then I rolled them back up. They got mad, pulled me out, cuffed me. So I filed a complaint. It would have been a difference if you knew the

penal code to that. And then they because there's no penal that maybe there is, maybe there is everything that they do. No peno culture for violations, yeah there for violations. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, you have rights and stuff like that. You just better be right. You better have a tape and something going on. And if you cordon and they getting paid to stand out there that whole hour, thirty minutes

while they sucking over you, I'm messing over you. If you would have just complied five minutes, you would have got a ticket and being on by your way. But you probably got a ticket. I don't know if you did. I did get a ticket, and you probably wasted an hour of your life about minutes. It helped me up, but I suggest, But I'm a person that really covets

my rights. I love well, I know that I'm not required moments when you get pulled over by the police, you're only required to show them your driver's life if it's a traffic violation, driver's license, insurance and registration. That's it. And let me just say that. But then that's when

they come up with the bullshit. That's when they start creating. Well, I smell a older marijuana coming out of your car quote unquote probable cause, but shouldn't if you don't smell it, But see, I swear, but caught up, who's out there to say the washermanor you're gonna be out there to say you lying. It's just my word. When you request they got a brain one out and bring a field supervisor out. But they ain't got to that quick. But by that time I got you out of the car,

did whatever to you? And then listen you. My point is the pen. The pen, it's your mother, is more powerful than what everybody always says. You take that badge off, I'll kick your ass. You take that gun. If you don't had that gun, I'll whoop your ass. That is't what's gonna put you in the motherfucker courtroom, Well, penitentiary. This penis what's gonna put you in the courtroom. The story nothing that the story that you embellish that I tell you know. And there are a lot of officers

that are in jail for filing false police reports. That's the great that's the thing that I love about now. It's because what we all have a camera here, But you gotta remember when I was a car back in the nineties and we was walking, y'all was walking around with five thou was VHS camera that was all you had. It was a big old VHS came and how many of you all have that, but now fortunately there's there's you know, cameras just crazy because you can't police them.

You can't say can't. I have a lot of power now because you got a camera. But how many motherfuckers it's gonna get the camera? They tell you to turn it off, Well, don't turn it off. They get more aggressive, you know what I'm saying. They're gonna push you down, They're gonna find a way to take you to Jim to take your phone. So it's like you're in a no win situation. My whole thing of this whole situation, we gotta fix ourselves because they're not gonna stop doing

what they're doing. We gotta stop doing what we're doing and and and do some other ship because what we're doing ain't working. Well. I know what I'm doing is perfectly legal and honest, and I got yanked out my car, handcuffed and held up for twenty minutes and I missed my son's three mile race that he was doing. Uh, and I captured it all on video because you wanted to be right, Well, I'm not wanted. I want to respected. I wanted to be respected if you wouldn't do anything

like what would hurt. It's not gonna hurt anything. But if I'm not required to do that, I don't want the state telling me to do things that I'm not required to do. Red, you know, just like and and it's but it's the principle of it. And I filed the complaint and the sergeant asked me if I would submit the video that I captured as part of the complaint. I called my lawyer. I had Carl Douglas on on

super dial. He told me submit the video because he said, if you don't submit the video, they're gonna say you were uncooperative and your complaint will not get through the system the as as rigorous as you wanted to. So give them what they want. Submit that video, which I did, and I'm gonna follow up and see what happened. You know, we make it because now looking at it and talking to more people, Uh, the officers were asking me to do things that I wasn't required to do, and they

always go back to office safety. You want to go here and the work they were they were already telling me that they're it's for our safety. Mr Alonso, it's for our safety. But are you afraid of me? You got a gun. I'm sending the car with how you how you feel? My hands are on the steering wheel. Your handcuff and this is for my safety and your safety. We're go hand cuff you. You got two guys, like James said, two guys with guns. My hands are on

the steering wheel. But they're scared of me. Scared of me? Come on, man, that's bush. That's just come on. I just don't get it. But I think sooner or later we'll be able to fix it. And I hope we fix it soon. We had a good start. I don't know in renge you my life like this one, but we gotta get rid of this damn Donald Trump man. And and weblan well, I hate Donald Trump more than I hate okay, well hate the ship you'll talk about.

And they sat to put no blame on nobody, because we gotta be accountable for ourselves and the ship we do. We gotta get out at but we gotta make sure we gotta vote. But I'm just your friends go in and who act like they like us and going there and when they're going that that boating, that vote team boot and there's so much generation with that ship. Um, Um, these motherfucker's with these computers can take votes and put

them over here. That happens a little bit. I believe a lot of our friends parents who act like they like us, was going in the little boots. And I'm not talking about California. I'm talking about mainly back in the South in places like that, and they were voting for that motherfucker. Oh man, they hated. It's so it's so many hated that black Obama, eraror and all of that so much. Where they got a little they got a little black boy that Uh, we're just at the

White House. You know, I ain't with all that. You see that. I love Donald Trump and Donald Trump is having black people and black people when I get back justifying this, and he had got quiet on for a while, but he back justifying why he supported Donald Trump. All right, let's answer some of these questions from some of our our listeners and now viewers to The Gangster Chronicles. Um, let's start off with a question from Beatty Accachi. I

believe this is a woman and she's from Chicago. She's from the South Side of Chicago, and she says that she's that the the youth in Chicago are involved in what she's calling revenge killings similar to Los Angeles. But these are small areas in Chicago that are killing each other. What can solve this problem? That's a question that she's addressing the Gangster chronicles. You basically do what with the

guys in the l A are doing. You find some older guys that's willing to to talk to the other side and and ask them, can we get together to stop this mayhem ship? So getting the older guys to come in and and and bring everybody together and conversate about what's going on. If you don't do that, it's just gonna constantly be the same ship you got to. I mean, these guys are killing each other. Do they

know why they're killing each other? Over territory? What? Well? Chicago, the South side of Chicago has a lot of gangs similar to Compton, l A and Watts. I'm not sure if if their conflict is rooted in those gangs, but I do know the Chicago gangs are a little bit more organized out there because they actually have like rankings where they give titles. They need to go to the kings and then and then they need to go to to the top. They need to go to the leadership

and do what do what the l A doing. She's fine, put the stop to the ship. They call it the truces. They can do it out there too. Chicago actually has a higher murder rate than we have out here, believe it or not. They have a city of a like a million less than we do, and they and they have about a hundred to a hundred and fifty more homicides than we do. So this this is a serious, some serious going on. They gotta get with the higher power and they need to try to figure out how

to stop it. Maybe they can learn from Los Angeles. But the thing is Chicago is not influenced by any Los Angeles gang culture like some of these others that though, it's about what they're seeing and how they What I'm saying is people from l A can go to Dallas and have influence go to Houston because of the gang culture. There's all these l A gangs in these cities. There are no l A gangs in Chicago at all. It's g d's, vice lords, gangs of Disciples, all this other

type of of gang structure. So we as the West Coast have influence in Phoenix, San Diego, Houston, Mephis. I mean, the list goes on and on, but we have zero influence in Chicago. It's not about us doing Chicago. We're leading right now. But what I'm saying, no, no, no, no, no no, California has nothing to do with the Chicago beef.

Those guys in Chicago need to get off their ass, the O g s or whatever they want to call theirselves, out of their the kings, the the disciples, whatever, those guys need to get up and say, just like everybody else, it's time to stop this ship. We ain't getting paid for this. We're killing ourselves and they need to stop it. At least cease fire, figure out what the hell is going on, trying to come to some type of medium, and and and and try to directify the situation. Everybody

needs to do what California is doing. I agree with the brothers in the South Side of Chicago especially and also the West side of Chicago got some problems, but I mean, if you can start it somewhere California doing, we got three neighborhoods, four neighborhoods, Well you gotta start, Reggie, don't matter if it was just one motherfucker. I mean, if it was one neighborhood, it's a start gangs in

California that has the truth. It's more than two. It's more than because I look at the East Coast, is nine separate sets, because you're so big. Well, the guys set in Carson the one nine, they got the six, the six packers four different sets, then you got the seven. Six is the different with the titles. But what I'm saying, that's nine. But the titles don't matter no more. Let's not label these guys. These guys has said retired, let's let's let's let's let's stop this. I don't care if

it's just one hood. Put them on again. How dom I glorifying California just saying I ain't say follow no motherfucking example, on no camera nowhere else. I said what California said. What California is doing, it's calling the truth. So what they need to do is is just like California doing, call the truths. You gotta start somewhere were

killing each other, you need a truth. Well, I don't know the host eight to California, and the county is about a thousand county of lost ange about it don't matter. But the truth, if one take off, the truth does cover more, actually covers with a lot of gangs. Let's get the nineties coast gangs, the two kitchen crips. That's eleven does have about five separate hoods, So that's like sixteen.

So we got sixteen separate communities within South l A that have said we're gonna gona they didn't if they didn't have a truth. How many motherfucker's would do today, tomorrow, all the way to next month. How many motherfucker's will be dead? And I can tell you this. There's a meeting this Friday, just try to create another truce. I can't really speak on it because I want to. I don't want to jinx this meeting. But if it goes through, that meeting will cover that those that truth will cover

about twenty separate neighborhoods. And that's good, and that's good. So it's just a trend. They started it. We're gonna follow, We're gonna follow, We're gonna follow. If it go all the way through, that's good. Everybody know that there's gonna be some assholes. That's that. This is the only thing I know, So it can be over. You got a lot of cats that's gonna be thinking like that. You're gonna have cats in the penitentiary thinking it can't be over. No,

I ain't what Let me rectified. Let me let me let me clarify what regards saying what I'm saying is and what makes it effective. The guys in Chicago, the leaders of these Chicago games need to get with theirselves and and and talk about some type of truth. They need to come They need to get in the middle with each other. And when I said, like l A is doing, you don't have to follow l A lead, y'all y'all own man, got your own thing going in Chicago. So if y'all want to stop it, it can be stopped.

If y'all don't want to stop it, can't Nobody tell y'all ship. Yeah, definitely, the leadership of the Chicago gangs on the South Side need to come together because without them, these youngsters ain't gonna stop on their own. You know, they ain't gonna just say let's put the guns down. Is And one of the problems the solutions is put more money into the parking recreations. Well, money is something totally different. But then' even with money, You've got a

lot of brothers out there. They got money, ain't bringing it to the table. The question was what can solve this problem? Definitely gotta put some more resources into the community, no doubt about it, you know, Parker recreation education, from the from the bottom, from the schools, from the elementary. What they need to do is put back whooping your kids ass because once they took that and something scared

to go to jail for child abuse. Now that your kids can run out and do what the funk they wanted to really have a camp or somewhere for them to go when they don't want them about. Want to listen right now, you're threatening your kids there. But you really can't do it because then I'm telling you, oh, well, you know we're gonna charge you. We gotta take over and raise your kid. You know you know we're gonna

charge you, my nephew. That's how why your scared parents not to drop their kids off and say, well, you know we're gonna be Oh they're gonna build me. Oh okay, well i'll take him home. I'll think him on. You know. No, But but our kids today they feel they can do whatever they want to do because the system is protecting them. You know what I'm saying. It ain't like how I

was growing up getting the ship beat out of you. Now, if you touch your kids, they would me and and you you subject to go do six seven, eight months a year in jail because you're chastising your child. Without chastising your kid, your kid can do what you wanna do. Now, I got him in a system is nine times out of ten, I'm gonna kill him or somebody gonna kill him. Are you gonna be in the system? You don't have nowhere to go. So how do you How did you

even protect your own kids when everything is against you? Well, let's let's answer another question. This is from the same person. She says that in the South Side of Chicago, families can't afford to buy they cannot afford to buy fish, but the youth are getting their hands on firearms. Do you guys believe or have an idea that the government is putting weapons in our community? Uh? Well, where the guns come from, automatics? But how they get them? Just

like us, breaking breaking in motherfucking houses? Uh, breaking in the gun shops. I mean, they could have got the guns from anywhere. But why the why the guns? Why those type of guys in the guns shop in the hood. You know, Los Angeles got rid of all the gun stores that you cannot buy a gun in the city of Los Angeles, but you can go elsewhere. They got they got magazines that you can feel out. All you gotta do is have a female that got a clean record. It's easy to get a pistol, So I mean, it's

a lot harder in California is the most states. It's not hard to get it, but it's harder something they just go buy it. Arizona, you got love. But what what I'm saying to her is is the guns get it came from anywhere, and you can get a gun from anywhere, especially if you if you that guy and have and know what you're doing, you can get anything you want. What you want to hear and what people want to say is that just like the Freeway Rick thing and the Chico Brown where some government agency i A.

Was dropping off drugs into our communities. You're saying that can't happen. That happened. Happened. I know we know of rumors that out there, uh, he said, rumors it's rumors that the police government that those rumors are actual facts. Well, I think that I've heard the story that in around nineteen seventies six, nineteen seventy seven, a bunch of box car trains were just parked off the tracks by um

By Florence, near Florence and Cranshaw's old tracks. Those were the niggasin They won't they won't even pick up those guns. Now that you know that was out, I mean, those guns were probably effective from nineteen seventy six we're talking about now. I mean, it's yeah, it has to still be going on if it happened. If it happens, I've never heard of any of this happening in the modern era. But I did hear of some pretty credible stories. Two stories.

One of the one that happened on on the Florence tracks where the brothers saw these trains sitting there for two or three days and decided to break the padlocks. And they told me from there were bikes, there were toys, and then one of them had guns. Remember back then when they had they had the damn trailers, they had the mopeds, remember them a little? The videos things I forgot. The Dame things. They was called something else, but all l A had one of the motherfucker's you know what

I'm saying. But I mean, yeah, But the question is where those trains parked there deliberately so that the brothers in the neighborhood would eventually go in there and take if I say, yeah, but it's possible, there's a possibility that they was. But if if if you ever lived right there on damn, when the train comes on al of meter, No, when they come on alometer, but then you got the one that goes right through watching they

used to stop. That's nothing. The second story I heard was a train on those tracks they used to just stop and it wasn't nothing to pop in them over. So I mean, has happened? Has happened? Well, I would say to her that yes, it's it's it's probably happened, But that was what thirty forty years ago that we know of knowledge. I doubt it's happened in the modern period. In fact, in California, there's so many laws and so

many restrictions that try to minimize gun access. I mean, they took the magazine from fifteen to ten, which I don't think does anything for the magazine then you get for the gun. It's a felon need to have a magazine over over ten rounds in it unless you as a misdemeanor, unless your grandfather then know, if your grandfather, then you're voted this gun. Yeah now, but you can't even go buy it now. You can't buy those anymore to my gun, and I can't. I can't take myself.

So that's crazy. So I don't think there's any conspiracy by the government in the modern period, meaning from the nineties to the current of them dropping off guns at least in Laws Angeles. If they did, they still doing it well, and there's no stories about it happening after the two seventies incidents that I know of. This is a world. And then mother Buck's got all over this place. I mean, it ain't like you can make a phone on and get what you want. But I mean, I mean,

that's just something you can't prevent. Well, there was a guy years ago that worked for a gun company here in southern California and he was actually stealing some of the guns and selling them, and um, the A t F started to surveil him. You got you got people out there making them, making the guns making them. It's not hard. Man, Well, it's kind of difficult to make up smith a forty caliber smith and wesson. Um, how

is it difficult? How is it hard if if you go in the gun magazine you can buy half of the parts. Well, yeah, you can put a gun. You could put a gun together if you have all the parts. Man, But are you telling me you've got brothers with a lathe in their backyard and they're cutting the metal and they're shaping out something the shaft and how many you need a lad You need a slave machine. That had a gun store that went out of business and took all this ship and moved over here. But that's not

making guns. There's people making but you can't. You can't make a gun from scratch unless you got the materials next door to you. People just pay gun and bring it across. I don't know. I've worked on ladies before, and those machines are big. They're huge. The cumber something average to accessible. And well we should be criticizing the manufacturers. Uh. My my son asked me this amazing question when he was eleven years old. He said, why is it illegal to have a gun or use a gun? But it's

legal for them to make the guns. And I was like, wow, that's a legal for them to make the guns because they're making the guns for people that they believe that need them, for the police, for uh hunters. But the manufacturers are count that used to have a gun. When you go out there and commit a crime killing somebody, you don't even got to commit a crimeing for it to be illegal. Well, if you got a gun, if you got a gun and it's in your name, then

they come to your house. They're gonna get that gun back. It's yours. They're gonna get that gun back. But if, like me, Andy, thing I ever old is is street ball with an understanding, don't get caught with the mother. So but they my guns and ain't in my name, So I mean it's illegal to have them though. Yeah, but they're even they even try to take my legal guns from me. I know they try said they try to all the time. They try to. I have it locked in the box. They say, hey, is it loaded

or unloaded? It's unloaded. We'll open it up. Let me see. You must got a pretty as gun. You don't want to talk to the cops. Problem. Guess how many convictions that I have, Reggie zero, but I'm never doing anything wrong. I'm not coming any crime. If you they wouldn't be trying. Would still they've been to jail phone if I was in Texas, they wouldn't say nothing about my gun in the back seat. It's the state of California is trying to infringe on legal gun owners all the time. You

ain't heard that argument before. They are trying to take the guns out of our hands from legal people to too many goddamn guns. I'm just planning for them to even do that. They can suggest, but you've got people got they ship buried, You've got people that got shipped here. Then, I mean there's both like three hundred and something million guns just in the United States. They just need. All right, let's let's answer one more question. I think James might

want to answer this, you know, I don't. Uh. Can you guys do a segment on David Kenner, the attorney. I think he was pretty sketchy. You you did you ever meet David Kenner, James, I'm meant David Kinner, my dinners with David Kinner. David Kinner was a cool cat. To my belief, David Kinner made it it happen, and if she wanted something, he made it happen. David Kinner cleaned a lot of sugar night cases because She'll used to have a stack of salts. He had a lot

of saults that that never went to court. David Kinner was a cool cat. Everybody has their faults. I'm talking about me dealing with him. He never did nothing wrong with me. He never came at me, messed up. He was there. David Kinner actually came to Compton Court when me and Timmy had that situation and spoke up and we here. But that was we talked about that before that. The other guys it was their fault. Y'alla y'alla. But yeah, David Kinner, David Kinner has he came to what is

this new jail right there on Alameter. I got the rested up there trying to get it getting my car out of out of the witch called him and they locked me up just lady jail on on Alameda, So I called shoot. David came down there, built me out high center station. Oh that's what they call it, called Firestone you know, Firestone ship. But they central station. Now, no right here in one of the boy the rack. Yeah, so came and got me out, show every every everything

I've dealt with with him and choked at him. Nothing but good. What they want to get into. And these these a little young kids that think David Kinner has something to do with stealing money from Tupac and all of that stuff is what they're getting into. And and and the pay and work with Shaddy. And that's like, David Kinner was a great attorney dealing with what he was dealing with. He did nothing wrong. He wasn't the jew the Jewish guy that controlled the black guys or

or anything like that. He was just um um a guy, the attorney that was getting paid a good amount uh to try to that was smart to try to keep niggas out of jail. And that's all. But you know, they want to make David Kinner this big bat. He say, snoop fast, He say, should guys, he had him a great deal on the Stanley Brothers matter. Should this messed up and got this probation violated? Violated? He said, corrupt?

Bass I can tell you yeah, I can just say you know, but you know she had an attorney, Angela Wallace used to be as an attorney or some things where she sat next to him and and him just think a case under one of his uncle names and ship. So you know there was turnings that did ship like that. But David Canner, there's no smart people want to make things where it's not. But was he mostly a contract attorney because he wasn't a criminal defense lawyer? He was it was a criminal no, But he did he do

he didn't do a criminal attorney he had here. Well, let me ask you this, yall. Did he did he take people? Did he do trials? Criminal? Criminal defense? That's what he's doing now still criminal defense. But back in the death row days? What type of law was he specialized? Came in the court when me and Nick our issue, he was the attorney or record on that case. I mean,

so he was I mean all the Ship people. He had so much work with SIGs people, with Nate Dog and all of that where he branched out and had other attorneys do things. But he was Shigs. God, you know, he was his Rudy. Um. You know that's for Donald Trump right now. He was your attorney like that? So did he work on the deals like the contracts? And that's what he did both he was able to cross over and and he wasn't as good and you know, because he was a criminal attorney. But he did it all.

But he was so smart where he can be like but he he had other entertainment attorneys Peter Peter Lopez and who's Dray's attorney down and Howard King, and he hired them to do stuff. But he was s attorney business He really was business manager. And I think on a previous episode of The Gangster Chronicles you mentioned Kenner

is being instrumental in the release of Tupac from prison. Yeah, he wasn't, but that was his That's what he was good at criminal criminal attorney, but he also did uh other type of attorney worked forward for When was the last time you guys were in touch with David Kenner? With him aboutwo or three months ago. I talked to him all the time, just check on you. That's all he's doing. He doesn't do interviews too often, does he.

He can ton you know, attorney's confidential because most people want to ask about why do you wrote it on a piece of paper? Or why did you know? They want to ask all that, and he could he could definitely talk about some of his experience working with death Row will benefit because he was right there. You gotta hunt down. I'm sure you will. Okay, all right, UM, you wanted to talk about before we close out the show.

You wanted to talk about something regarding Shug and this the lawsuit that Michael Harris, Harry Oh and his then wife Um sued death Row and want a judgment. I believe a few years back. Is there some sort of update regarding that judgment? I think, Um, I think six people got it backwards because the bankruptcy got the judgment discharge. But in the next couple of days, Uh, y'all gonna be hearing something about a press conference or something about

the the judgment being finally totally dismissed. What's that about. I don't know, because the bankruptcy got a discharge. The name is probably better than all of our names right now because he has no debt, zero debt zero lessen he making some credit cards or some bills while he's in prison. But um, so, basically the judgment that awarded Michael Harris over a hundred million dollars will be vacated. It's just something that's gonna be in the news. So it's just is he trying to come at shoot for

the money? You can't about the bankruptcy. She go to bankruptcy court. That is in their hands. And I mean, but if you know that and nowhere he can get his money, why would he even take stereo. I just think it's something that they went across the desk and you know, gonna try to exploit that and make a big thing. Yell people on the side of the count All right, ladies and gentlemen out there in a podcast world, we want to thank you for listening to another episode

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