After The Laughter

from Street Street Gangs, and I'm James mcdonal. And uh, we're missing our our third co host, Reggie Wright Jr. But hopefully we might get him on the show a little bit later then yeah, he might be calling in. And I believe this is our episode forty two, so let's just get right into it. James, I got a

couple of fact checks from a couple of episodes. Um first one I want to talk about is we talked about people going proper defending themselves and we mentioned, uh, this one guy from from Family Swan named Claimant Johnson. I looked him up and um in, he was charged with the murder of Tyrone Mosley and he took that to trial himself. He was his own legal counsel and that case got thrown out. He didn't he wasn't found not guilty, but he got found with almost just as

good as a not guilty verdict. He had deadlock jury, which means mistrial. They could retry it if they want, but for whatever reason, they chose not to retry it. And then later he got caught up in another case and was sentenced to death in that's why they ain't tried it. That's why they ain't that that's done. But you know, he's this guy has been like probably one of the best guys from the hood to defend himself because even being sentenced to death, he appealed his case

and he got it appealed. So now, uh, in two thousand twelve or thirteen, they pulled him out of San Quentin prison brought him back to l A County jail to be retried on the same trial that put him on death throw. So now you know he's looking at possibly either getting a lesser sentence or if he wins

the case, coming home. That's good, that's good. He probably wanted the first that that I mean looking twice man, Well, I'd like to know if anyone out there knows any dudes from l A, from any of these neighborhoods that have represented themselves and was successful because um, you know, I'm sure he's not the only one that's ever done

it though, And you know it's the trip. I was reading the transcript from his case and he testified on his own behalf in that trial, so you know what that The way he does it is you sit on the stand right and you answer the question. Then you get out of the stand and you stand there and you ask yourself the question. Then you go back and sit down and answer the question. So there's just back and futh. It's kind of bizarre, like you you're you're

actually direct examining yourself during a trial. So he's not looking at the death penalty no more. Well, at this point, they haven't decided because they gotta retrial, and right now he've been sitting in the county jail since two thousand and twelve thirteen. Whether or not he's gonna look at these uh, well they're definitely gonna retrying. But whether they're gonna pursue the death penalty or not, who knows. But

his next court date I looked at up. His next court date is uh, next week and he's been in the county jail now seven years. That would be interesting to go to that. Yeah, I was. I was thinking about checking it out when it does go to trial. But have you ever crossed paths with them that they call him big evil from from family spawting. He's about your age, man to to to to uh fight your own case and get this far with it. I mean he don't did it once. I hope he can do

it again. Well, I think he could be successful because he's got time on his hands because this is an old case and when she tried to retry an old case from the nineties, you don't have the same witnesses. People's memories aren't the same, so it'll be yeah, all right. So, um, another fact check. We were talking about marijuana use with Adam twenty two last week and he was saying that maybe it's the reason why he can't get his girl pregnant.

His girl is pregnant. Oh, she is pregnant. She is pregnant. Well, I looked up whether or not marijuana could have an impact on a male sperm, and it actually absolutely has an impact. Just about every health research, all the science on marijuana and pregnancy says that it doesn't have a negative impact on your ability to get a woman pregnant. There's actually one study that says that marijuana could alter the genetic profile of male sperm. You probably do. I

ain't got a word about that. I don't smoke weed, and I ain't trying to annimal kids. But imagine all the people out there that are impregnating women while they hide as a kite on multiple blunts. It's it's impacting. That's been from the beginning of the town. Nobody, I don't something. What about alcohol? Alcohol? Do alcohol? Oh, we absolutely know that alcohol has an impact. They got a thing called a fetal alcohol syndrome. You know, Well, it

impacts women that drink while they're pregnant. That's obvious. Um, But I don't know if you're asking, does alcohol have an impact on the male sperm exactly? Well, that's a great question, um, But definitely marijuana does. A couple of my kids was born a boy, some some some hennessy and why she gets you right? Well, I saw an old picture of my mom when she was about two or three months pregnant with me, and she had a cigarette in her hand. Everything is so different from back

then to now. The pollution and everything, folks, So you never know what what stopped you from having kids. The water we're drinking now, and so you never know. Well, if you're trying to get your girl pregnant and you haven't, you haven't had any success out there, and um, you smoke a lot of weed. You might want to do some research and rethink that if you're trying to get your girl pregnant. And uh, the last thing I wanted to mention is the proliferation of skate parks in South

l A. Now. I know when I was young and probably um, I don't know if you ever paid attention to this, but there were no places from kids skateboard, not at all. And you know, I just did a quick search and there are at least a half a dozen parks in Los Angeles south of Los Angeles, in the hood where brothers an sistors can grab their board and go to the skate park. And there's actually a skateboard park in Compton over at uh Wilson Park. You ever played at Wilson Park when you was a kid.

Never It's a little park though, it's a tiny little park. But that's on the other side of rosecrans. Never ever, never ever thought about picking up a skateboarding going skateing, skateboarding and and doing tricks and all that other ship. What about just going to Wilson Park. No, but you guys had looters, looters had everything. When every kid the gym, I mean, you're going to gym and you know, that's when everybody was acting about they were playing basketball and

all that. But other than that, no, no, all right. There's also an amazing skate park at Gilbert Lindsay Park that's the home of the fur trade against the crips. And there's um, there's another one at Jim Gilliam which is uh the home of the Black Pea Stones. And there's just there's just quite a few skate parks all over South l A. Which I think is a great thing, man, I mean a great thing. They had a park there or a great thing, a great thing for the kids

to go and skate. I think it's a great place for the kids to go on skate because in order to get good at skateboarding, in order to turn pro, you gotta learn how to do those tricks, and those skate parks make it easier because they got the rails, they got the ramps, they got all of the things where kids can practice tricks, where in the seventies and eighties it was only white kids that were able to do all those tricks. But look at the area where

these skateboard parks is. Is these kids actually going out there? I know I passed by one in Long Beach, um is over there? I think, what is that ocean uh right where i'd go fishing all to the right. Um, I see a lot of kids at that park with their skateboards. But I don't, I don't. I don't think it's too many kids going to the to the parks in the neighborhood on the skateboards. Well, I guess each

neighborhood is different. I know the one that uh at U Ranchos Rancho Santega Park over there by the Jungles. Every time I go over there with my two sons, is at least four or five kids in there? Um four's I know. I mean I don't go there all the time. Gilbert Lindsay Park. Um. I've done a few interviews there with some four trays, and it really kind of messed up my interviews because I got these guys

on camera. I got a mike and you just hear kids in the background skating in the middle of the interview. Um so no, I think they're getting used. I mean, it's just like anything else. It's not you know, you got a basketball court in the skate park you go to, you see you might see three or four kids on the basketball court at any given day, you know. But it's it's allowing people of color to get good at a sport that they were never able to get good

at before. And there was a couple of brothers from there was a guy from Long Beach that end up having a reality show. Um and he had he turned pro and there's all these kids. If you watch X Games, now, X Games is not just dominated by white folks. You got people of black and browns. And oh yeah, that's that's like not our generation. But if you had I bet you one of your grandkids, you know, when he

comes with age, you put a skateboard. Well, you get him a skateboard, he's gonna he's gonna want to use it. He pushing the skateboard now, but I'm scarting riding the damn thing. Oh come on, man, you gotta let them, you know, do what they do. One thing about skateboarding, you gotta be fearless. You can't be you know, timid. You can't be hesitant or reluctant. You gotta just go out there and just do it. That's the same thing with a bike of motorcycle. All these toys they got

them scooters that they got the motors on them. Now, man, these kids running and the ship kids taking that ship from you. You're getting beat up over it. All kind of ship is going down. But I ain't never been in the skateboard man, It's not my cup of tea, all right. On a previous episode, we talked about we talked about Lee Baca, the sheriff that got charged with all those other deputies for hiding an inmate in the l A County jail because he was exposing abuse is

and everybody was found guilty or pled guilty. He the only one that tried to fight his appeal, and he took it all the way to the United States Supreme Court, and they told him get out of here. Man with this appeal, don't do your time. He was found guilty. They didn't even want to listen to the case. How much time did he get that, gave him three years, and he's got to turn himself in either the end of this month at the beginning of next month. And but he let me ask you this, James, he's in

his seventies. He's now saying he's suffering from Alzheimer's disease. Should should he get a pass or just like any other person almost eight years old? Should he do his time? When you're he was ninety, he did the crime, you should do the time. He wasn't worried about none of his health problems when he was doing what he was doing.

So hell no, you just like us at that point when when you committed crime, especially anybody of authority, you're a police officer, you committed crime, you should be and treated just like me. That don't make you better than me because you are getting lesser sentenced because you was a police officer. That should be worship You know what I'm saying. I think three years is actually like a slap on the wrist for for what he was doing.

I mean that is like large scale corruption, hiding inmates from the system that the federal government we're trying to they were trying to communicate with kidnapping. That's basically kidnapping. Yeah, they're gonna give us five for kidnapping, that's basically kidnapping. And then plus, really, what kind of pisces me off about the whole thing is eighteen of the deputies went to prison, and most of those deputies got more time than three years. Some of them got eight, some got five,

some got six. But you got the ringleader of the whole thing, he only get three, he gets three, he only gets three. But I remember Reggie said something, he said, Lee Bak is not really the head of the l A County sheriff Department. He said his underboss, which was a Japanese guy named Paul Tanaka. He said, Paul Tanaka was running the Sheriff's not not Lie Baka. But you know Paul Tanaka went to prison too. So I think

it doesn't matter. You're the head, you're the leader. How do the people that did what you told him to do get more time than you get? But that's just the system, man. I think he should have got the most time because he didn't want planning and putting the ship out there like that. He should have he should have gotten more than three years. But because of his age. They slapped him moment Ridge. He's seventy seven years old.

James don't matter. Yeah, don't matter. And it's kind of disappointment because I actually met this guy a few times. I actually interviewed him. I never posted it, and he really seemed like a dude that cared about the community. He understood that there was over policing of gangs, he understood that gangs aren't as bad as what what other cops make him out to be. And then he it's caught up in this scandal. So I believe why I listen to him that I was just disappointed because most

cops don't take that position. I mean, he would publicly say things that you're like, Yeah, it's nothing wrong with the police officer getting up there and saying a lot of ship, but is he living by that? Is that? I mean, that's just conversation. Then he turned up a year later killing people. We didn't find out he didn't killed three people. Not saying him, but I'm just saying,

they just got a different agenda. And if they can get away with just say things, if I was a police officer, if I'm a police officer and I got found guilty, of a crime. I should be treated worser than a streetcat. And the reason why I say that because you are here to serve and protect me. But then you out here and now you've caught a case I would have to prove. I would use them as examples. How can you go to just say, going to the military, you come on and kill somebody, they're gon tell you

you're distrace to the to the flag. You're you, you're distrace. They are distraction to their badge. And if they got found guilty, they should be thrown under something. Yeah, definitely three more years. But I honestly we're just saying that, like they swore an oath to to be to protect and I didn't. I didn't. I'm just out there doing what I do. You know, we out there hurting people, we out there doing wrong, We get caught, we go

to jail. We're in jail. They give you forty years for one body, a police officer gets five years, or get set free for that body. That's like crazy, that's cold, that's wrong. Yeah, this this um lie baka situation stems from a two thousand and eleven investigation. I can't believe here we are nine years later and uh it's finally finally finished. Uh. Ten other sheriff deputies have already went

to prison. Half of them have already been released. That's how long this case has been dragging through the court system. Lee Baca's got to do us three years. Paul Tanaka should be getting out soon. He turned himself in to do his I think four or five years, a couple of years ago. Um, so he probably would have been better off just turn himself in because he'd becoming home already. So do they lose their pension and all that ship? Nah, Unfortunately a lot of these cops are able to keep

all of their their pension, all of their benefits. It's got to be something like super you know, a convission. Convission is a conviction, Guilty is guilty, prison is prison. You're locked up. Why should you get paid and keep that money? You could have been a dirty, dirty cap for the longest and just got caught on this. I think we mentioned that, And what did Reggie say? Like he was completely against taking away any benefits. And I argued with Reggie right now in today on that one.

I give it to him? Why I give it to him? Well, I agree, I agree that something that the punishment should include some of the benefits that you have as a as a deputy, because you shouldn't have no been a pitch. You don't. You don't spoil the badge. You didn't, you didn't commit you I did committing crimes? Why your ship going? So what? Why do? Why? Why should he deserve it? That's wrong? Yes, Well, well they're gonna say that this

guy has been on the force. I've been I've been in the hood over thirty some years, and when I go to jail, or any man on the street go to jail, he stripped of everything. He stripped of everything. So what makes them different. I think he's got to like commit murder or something in order to lose. Well, if if I should have been a cop, then I should have been a cop because I'd have been doing everything I can do. Plus they're able to get money

from the Police Office Association to defend themselves. I feel about that. That's that's sad. Well, well, here's the thing. Technically, you're innocent until proven guilty, so you're gonna get the benefit of the doubt from the officers association to get the money for your defense. If you're a good copy. You should never even have to worry about being on the other side of the law. You aren't. You're supposed to be on the right side of law. That's what

you signed up for. You should never have to cross defence across that line to be uh on trial. Once you committed that crime, all vessels off. Everything is over close the folder. And if you get found out guilty, then that might be something different. You get your pension back, you should start going, you get your job back. No, if you get found guilty and go to prison, you can sit in prison and your pension just keep coming. Your money is still coming. Yeah, that then you're not guilty.

That's double standard. O. J. Simpton. Simpson got found not guilty of murder, but then they go over here in this court and take everything he had. That's double jeopardy. Man. Well they did it in a civil court, but it still don't matter. Civil whatever, it don't matter. It's double jeopardy. But it only applies to those who they wanted to apply to. Well, they're gonna say it's not double jeopardy

because he wasn't found guilty of any murder. He was found uh ressivilly responsible for the death which is different from me. How can't they be found? And this is what everybody keeps saying, How then are you gonna be found, uh anything? Of the death. And he got found not guilty for killing him, That means he ain't there, he ain't the one who did it. Not guilty is I'm innocent? So how can you send me the civil court and I lose? And and here you're gonna tell me I

killed him, but over here I didn't. Well, So what you're saying is if if you went in criminal court, that should be the end of it. That should be it. Yeah, how can you come back and say I'm responsible for murdered. I got found not guilty on that I that I had my hand and something to do with these two people getting killed? You know, because I think in the criminal court, when you when you found not guilty, that doesn't necessarily mean you didn't do it. Why not I

got found not guilty. I got twelve people in this in that box to say he didn't do it. Well, what I'm saying is that is that rich Alright, people out there, we just gotta we just gotta call from from Reggie Wright Jr. Calling from at Water right. Yeah, what's your brother? How you doing. You're gonna have to talk a little bit louder so we can hear you. Okay. I gotta some people around, so I don't want to be talking to That's what's going on with y'all. What's

up with Alison James? Happy New Year to you. I haven't talked to you on the wild Man. I haven't talked to you, officer, and so I think you said take six nine, we're gonna get no time when I kept telling you he's gonna get some time. Yeah, Well two years ain't nothing compared to what he was looking at. Takashi six nine is gonna get out of prison in

a few months, boy, will you be? He got sent this already got sent twenty four months, okay, twenty four months with with already fifteen sixteen months time served, so that leaves him about five or six months. He and I should be touching streets at the same time. You'll probably getting out August. I'll be getting out from time in September. Well, I'll be going through a halfway off in September. Well, I calculated July will be his sir, So he might beat you. He might beat you. He

might beat you home rich. So what wa wait, I'm gonna asking, No, what was your what was your reaction when you heard that he only got twenty four months? No, I was surprised of that though. Surprise, but let's call That's how I said. Let's all you're up until that day.

We're saying he wasn't gonna get u. He will be getting released on in December, but that this will show you the only reason we had talked about it because I was just trying to think, show people how you can make whatever deal you want with your attorney and all of that. They're steal up to the federal judges, and I think that's what has brought us up to the conversation. Well, because they still gotta keep some type

of credibility to the to the courts. We were knowing you to come home, not him, So he really don't matter right now. We was we was in the conversation about the police and this is this is this is

a conversation me and you. I think we had an argument about or we got a lied with each other about um, the difference between police officers and civilians getting they get this time, we get this time, and and the question was what I'm saying, why why should a police officer, uh get five years on the murder and

I get forty five years. That's it's sad. It's wrong generally because of the intent is where when I think comes in place, I mean, until we could prove that what they wants KKK and all of that, and it's outright going out killing people and you know, jumping in the car and saying I'm gonna kill me somebody today, but usually win a game member somebody uh decided to

do it. They they already had that intent. So they was like they got high and got drunk in the sherm or some angel does or whatever you want to call it, where daddy and said, you do about to go kill for me because they just killed my brother or they just killed my homie and all of that, and usually within a cop situation, and they just funked up black of training, being scary or whatever. Murderous murder right,

murderous murder right, regardless of how you did it. You if you don't, if you ain't got proper training or whatever, you shouldn't be on the job. You shouldn't be doing what you're doing. But they put you out there, you commit a murder and they feel that there's something here to convict you of murder or charge of police officer. Oh this wasn't right, So you've been indicted for murder. Me yea, I know I want to kill them motherfucker because he had on a different color, or he he

beat my sister up or something. That some of the murder is murder. I'm dead, they're dead now. Murder is not murder. But that that right there is a big thing. Your intentions is a big, big difference and the way we're supposed to look at that, in my opinion, so you gotta prove that. You gotta prove the intent was there right now. Like I said, if if I told my wife, man, I'm about to go home, I'm about to go to work today and kill me something because kill me in Mexican or a white boy or whatever.

If I kill my like dad, and then you can prove that and he knew that was interesting. Yeah, I agree with you. They should book up his ass, you know, but if um, you know, I just fucked up for whatever reason, and and I don't believe, you know, I don't believe that you're supposed to do life for all this time that they're giving out people. Um, you know, because time, man, I'm telling he just changes people lives. Man, this is just dudes and there they've been lockdown for

twenty years and it's time. Man. This time ship is crazy giving people. Reg I want to ask you because we're gonna talk about this later. But Lee Bacca lost his appeal and he's gonna do his He's gonna do us three years. He might end up going to a camp where he might end up coming to York camp. He woke up here. There's some better ones out there, like Colorado. Then they got one on the golf Force I here. Uh, he might go to Florida. But they're not gonna put him out here. But did you hear

calf not closing? I'm so man, man, I got way out here to this momafucker place five hours six hours away from where we live, you know, me and James think got James made that drive for me, but half which is an hour older by Magic Montain, which is like an hour and twenty thirty minutes with him where we live and grow up. And motherfucker ain't closing now.

They decided to keep it open and so I'm thinking about your trying to get put in for a transfer to go to town, just because man, I'm starting to one to see my family. Let's see people missing people, you know, people to make a six hour drive, you know, man, chill pops, chill pops and moms when they when they want to come visit you. I come in there. I come and drive them down there. I should in the car because you know I can't go in there, but I take him down there. They an't gotta drive and

they let some one's come here. Why let you cop out to it. Man, I kind of a bunch of people who um fundlers and stuff coming in end up being in trouble ship. That's what people don't know. Even when I was taking niggers up to the state to the end to the ship doing a little Dudes, don't need to depend and all that. You just gotta tell the truth and not be on probation of her all anymore. Which I know you because you know I'm not of prisons this nine eight. But I don't want to come

to no prison and see nobody. I would drive him down here. I don't want to see you. I don't want to see any just like I told you, I don't write letters. I didn't want to write no letters. So I appreciate it and let me to say, I did get a letter from you, and I got a letter from my boy Alex. I appreciate that. Uh. I want to pick on Alex a little bit. And I hope, I hope this is I hope this is not true. I did a little interview on bom versus my my

my boy John hit me up. He said, hey, man, why you your boy Alex Alonzo did and you're talking about up and people to U or should go over to uh uh to comfort you know, only them? I said, Man, I got to be that homosexual from the UK that said that ship he said, Now it's Alexi boy, Alex alons awesome street. I said, now, Alex, I said, no ship like that, Alex you got ahead of you don't care or you heard something like that or you say

this something like that before. Man, I never said nothing of the sort about got you like like I said, like I even said, I said if Alex or something like that, because you know nothing about me, you know, don't be honest. Me and Alexis met each other officially until about what ten eleven months ago. But I'm sure we have different opinions, and you have a different opinion of me now or don't believe any of that stuff at least I hope. Um. I don't know. I don't

want to. So what you're doing, you're giving out passes now, man? Yes, I mean no. I laughed when I heard it. I said, hey, ship, I said, what was it that I said? My people on the Monday? Because I was working different parts of Delity County, so I could have had him working. I could have had him come anywhere. Nobody had come. Now. I don't think I know any confident, any comfi confidence anymore all over some Spanish speaking different any of them

put it that way, may be disrespecting you, Reggie. I don't recall saying anything about you. I mean, I'm actually unclear. What what is it exactly that I said you were a part of? Uh? They said that that let's call let's from James, No this food? They went women, Anderson is the one to put that out. Why why would I be calling aga jail If the jail the snitch inform a known snitch and informant, I would call him and tell him, hey, I need people to lure Shield

over the conference or something that could happen to him. Right. I got the actual video that this guy was talking like that from jail Okay, when we heard that. But they say, they say Alex is the one that said it as well. And I couldn't believe that. I said, I don't know where they're coming from. Okay, just like they found this video Alex due, they got a video of Alex saying that that's what they say, that's what John, my boy John from Bomb First to swearing that he

saw it and send it over. And then I said, but I'll ask Alex and I and and and like I said, even if this, if Alex say something like that, uh um, you know in two thousand and fourteen or two thousands of teen seen whatever I'm saying, I hope he don't feel that way once he and I met him time. And that's my only question. That's all I said. On First Yeah, I listened to that. I listened to it on Bomb Person. I was like, damn, Reggie giving out passes. Reggie ain't mad. He he just let it go.

And if normally when somebody talk about Reggie, Reggie going you're gonna go and try to go at him. He want to brange something, to say something. This is gonna be a fight. So what Norm did and what I did, I think Brian founded and just just shurely ain't ain't Alex. Not not this Alex. Yeah, we know about the one women. Matter of fact, when I would go on the street, I saw that that particular video and I laughed because, like I said, you got this non informant known snitch

that I'm calling from NGO actually to do stuff. But people always call this non formant in the stitch to get stuff done on the streets. And then did it presents us the nineties? Yeah? Yeah, So took for him to know that offhand and all of the other ship.

I mean, you know, people chalk everything. Everything is trying to work the white boys to get some money to go on the books and stuff like that, trying to work on He just doesn't you know, well, I mean it's a it's a good business because you know, you got these cats out here right now today, Reggie offering thirty thirty thousand and twenty thousand for you to look at the ship that they have and and and and speak on it. You know, people are spending a lot

of money. You know, You've got people doing documentaries, you know, and I wanted to talk to you about that. People got at about the documentary and and you know they paying all this money instead of just letting this situation die. Tupac new Mark gon uh congratulations, the biggest You might not like this, but they just inducted him in the Hall of Fame and rock and Roll Biggie Smalls so he was her make Tupac. Now, I don't think he had long enough records, two albums. I don't think he

should be in it. I think he only did it because because of how he died the biggest small ship, that being a rock and roll Hall of Fame with two albums. You you sound like Freddie Freddie. Uh time round, Jackson man, get a man credit. The man was good. Get a man good. But that's just like uh, um, Magic Johnson. I don't put Magic Johnson. That's one of the best basketball player of all time because of his playing.

Um Jim Brown. Jim Brown is another one. We give Jim Brown all of the credits and all of that. He played eight years. We we we we gotta you gotta, you gotta put in time like the doing is putting in in my opinion, to be um inducted, to be considered one of the best. If that's the case. Bo Jackson was considered the best football player of all times. Do we ever talk about both Jackson? Well, bo Jackson didn't last that long though, now, but I think Jim

Brown is definitely deserved. I think he lasted the nine seasons. Bo Jackson only played five seasons. But Jim Brown is definitely deserving the best. I believe I'll be on the field, you know. It was. My point is, Biggie did two albums, two albums, and we want to put him with all of these these people that have all the Biggie Biggie. No, Biggie is not shouldn't be in hall, in the rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Now, Biggie deserves it. Those those are two amazing albums, not just two albums off.

Those albums were quality albums. And most people that you're gonna put in the Hall of Fame, they only probably got one or two good albums. They're at they're about to cut me off. Oh, I mean, I thought we had thirty minutes. No, I can I have to call you back and there they ain't argue with you. Long job, and I'm trying to be choking man by problem. I love your dad, app Man, Say what's up? Say what's up to lie Bako? If he comes in and it comes to your camp, Say what's up to lie Bako?

If he touched down at your camp? Now are you going to I'm sure you're going to Colorado? If he's one up in Colorado when they stay in the motail and they go and work on three ways and all that bulls because he turned himself in any day. Now, all right, well, let me know where you're at. Hopefully I can talk to you for the next two days and then we have to tell me where next Wednesday

somewhere like this. But alrighty, that was Reggie Wright Jr. And uh Man, it's been a minute since he called in, James Man, I just missied that third part Reggie, his conversation, his input on a certain ship. Because I'll be ready to get into it with you with this. I mean, I don't have nothing against Biggie. I don't have nothing against Tupac, but you know, both of those guys was

good to me. Whether y'all call him great or have a loan that they was in it, the impact that both of them gave or had, I mean, where should they be. I think Biggie was more than good. I think he was one of the greatest rappers of his pature to Tupac too, but Tupac put out more than two albums, but they were good. It don't matter. I know what Reggie's trying to say. Reggie saying, look, Pop put out like five six albums, even put that double

one out, and Biggie only put out two. But he put out two amazing albums, two albums that we still listen to this day, that has stood the test of time. They play that, they play any Biggie song in the club, even the kids that weren't even born when he came out him. So he's deserving of being in any sort of music hall of fame that he's in. Um Man,

Reggie could be a hater sometimes, uh. I love the argument, and I'm a little confused on this issue of me saying that Reggie has something to do with to TAM's or something whatever. This guy is, this guy right here, I want am I in the video if you want to hear no to do what to do is saying, and basically, I guess I don't think it was a rebud, but you pretty much saying the same thing. This is

what I'm gathering. So when we got this today, this this Brian pulled this up because ain't nobody ever heard it? So when he pulled it up, Okay, that's not Alex, that's this cat. So Reggie saying, oh I heard this before. But Alex said the same thing too, which John got supposed to have a video al right what he just said, Well, I have you definitely have to John. I'm gonna definitely listen to it. But I did do one interview about

Sugar at the TAMS. I did the interview for for Derris Darris's YouTube channel, the actor that was trying to play Tupac, And I don't even recall if I even said Reggie's name in that interview. I don't even know Reggie when in two thousand and fifteen, So I'm a

little confused on that. But I'm gonna definitely, uh take a listen to it, and let's see if I could clarify the only thing that I would say about Reggie nothing to do with what should but my only criticism was he had right Way security in Vegas the night Pot got killed, and he probably don't want to hear it, but the reality is Pot got killed on his watch, and they didn't. Park got killed on our watch. Reggie had two people there when Tupac had all of us did. Well,

that's the thing. You got right Way security. You got the homies, and Parks still got killed. Everybody dropped the ball, but Tupac didn't get killed walking by itself or get jumped and stumped out. Tupac got killed by drive by. You know, something that's normal and just some comfany that gets brun into Las Vegas. You know what I'm saying. How they get down and and Chill could have died that night. I'm sorry to say Tupac lost his life, but I mean that was just something that that was

gonna happen. Right way. Security wasn't walking alongside of the car to prevent No, I don't think you could prevent it. But the fact that they dumped, drove off and never got caught, I mean that ain't able to go down that that way when you got a security present. I'm gonna tell you like this, everybody is to blame, And I say, everybody got their hand in it. Uh Las Vegas Police Department. Name of time you ever went to Las Vegas and you rode up uh Las Vegas Boulevard

on a fight night, jam packed? How anybody get away? You got more bicycle cops out there than the law allowed. And then you got police cards posted on certain of the major streets Tropic Canada. You know, Sahara you got you got them posted going all the way down the main I don't want to get away, you know what I'm saying. If they're talking like that, everybody is to blame, you know what I'm saying. So, I mean, everybody don't

want to take credit for that. Everybody want to point the finger and give it to somebody else so they can feel better. But no, everybody is to blame for it. Everybody dropped the ball. But I would be the only thing I would say. You know what's really crazy? Ever since I've been posting these Reggie Wright Junior videos on my platform, people in the comments be saying some crazy things about how Reggie you know, Reggie set Pop up,

you know, Reggie got pop killed. And I'm like, is this I thought we've already figured out everybody that was responsible in POC's death, and his name keeps getting dragged, and not as someone that dropped the ball, but as someone that was a part of it. I'm gonna say this everybody. Everybody has the right to their own opinion, everybody. And some of these people are only twenty five years old.

You weren't even there, You weren't even born in so people here what what this person said and that person said, and then they tried to put it together. Now you got a basket for a conspiracy, you know what I'm saying. Nobody knows who what you call him? With Park? Everybody saw the video with Tupac taking off on the Lando Orlando was a gangster. Lando said, I ain't going home without getting his cat. He did that. He's dead. Now

what doesn't matter. How did you How would why would Reggie want to kill And I'm not taking up a Reggie, but why would you kill your main artist? What the hell are you gonna get out of that? Everybody stopped eating if Tupac did, that's know. In fact, look what happened to death Row Death Roke fell apart at the Tupac. It makes no sense to drag Reggie's name into the homicide, if not even that. At the beginning of it, they said,

she'll have something to do with killing Tupac. Why would I drive with you in the car and take a chance on you shooting up my car with me and with him sitting next to me. Well, I understanding. In no one really knows what's going on, but we're in twenty now. If you think should kill pop and if you think Reggie Wright killed pop in, I'm sorry. Even though everyone's entitled to their opinion, that's an opinion that I don't. I'm not gonna respect No, No, I don't.

Reggie couldn't and what let me take that back. I ain't gonna say couldn't. I don't think he be responsible or think like that. You you would have to sit back and say, we're gonna get the money, more money. If he did, let me stop, because they're gonna start off. See you made a point. Now, I don't know he God, they It didn't work that way, man. You know, people get involved in situations and put themselves in situations. Some

situations you can't get yourself out of. This would happen with pot you know what I'm saying, showing his loyalty to to to others. You know what I'm saying, that that's his demise, showing that he's with the business. He should have never stepped into that situation. First, He shouldn't have never You don't know Orlando, you never met Orlando. You don't have to do that. This is what you

got gang members on your payroll for. And if he'd let that be, that that situation should with have spilled all the way back in Compton, which is own already, you know what I'm saying. So he didn't have to do that. Let the homies take care of that. Let the homies go over there in jump Lando, there's a blood and cryptan. So if you're banging, that's what it's supposed to been. It ain't. It ain't about no artists taken off on gang members. And that's that's where Lando

come here. Nigga. Fuck that. You ain't even to step from my gangster like that two pocket nine. And he had no choice to do what he did. And you know that little brother died the way he lived. Well, all you conspiracy theorists, you live in the comments, because that's that's all it is. It's just comments. And here we are in this homicide has been broken down so many times, and it's clear, it's simple and clear who was involved, why it happened, and we got people with

still outlandish, idiotic theories. You can say anything you want on the outside looking in, but if you're on the inside, you know everything. Everything is clear to you because you already know what's going on. You already see what's happening. And this is why people constantly keep uh making remarks, keep talking about the same old situation, because it's just a conversation and it just getting better and better every

time they hear it. So I'm intrigued. But if you're on the inside of this situation, you know exactly what happened, and and it's some things that the people on the inside I can't talk about, but everybody know what the hell is going on, and you know they made it clear when when Tupac fast I shot the share. You

know what I'm saying, It had to be known. I didn't get ask Reggie about his work at workout Regiment because the last time we spoke to him on the gang's chronicles, I think he said he lost about thirteen fifteen pounds after being there about six eight twelve week And now he's been in there, uh what about three or four months now? Well, I already won bomb first he was talking about. I guess it was raining and they couldn't get out there like they wanted to, so

they got to get back on it. I mean, definitely, if he stick to it, he's gonna he's definitely gonna come out a better person. Whether it's calisthetics, just just running around the track or whatever, He's gonna come home better. What did you think going on? Because you knew Reggie when he was tramming in shape as a cop, and and just over the years he put on a whole lot of weights. Well that's because he's shipping back. He retired.

He ain't doing nothing he was with when he was with the role, he was living good, eating, you know, and that should catch up with you now in a position where he can knock all that ship off of him and come home Reggie right again. You know what I'm saying. You know a lot of people in the under estimate that do Uh, he bought far scary, you know what I'm saying. Uh, I don't know what kind of criminal mind you have, because I mean, you know, everybody is you know whatever. But I stayed away from

all that. But I just I've been doing Reggie for a long, long year. I think he could lose anywhere from fifty to seventy five pounds. Um wait, by the time he gets out at least at least sixty five pounds at ease, just doing it slow. If he's on the same page that he was when he said he lost that fifteen pounds. I think he was only in

there for like two or three months. And when you get in there, you you want to get in there and get on the punch, and you want to get ready for you your visit, your visits and all that ship. I think he said he was walking the track, walking the track, You walk the track. They got little machines in there when we took him down there, they got machines on the yard where you just get on the little trail mills and do your thing. I didn't see no no weights. But you know, my fucking jail. You

know the program. You can get water bags, put waters in a plastic bag with your t shirts, do your curls, and all that ship. So well, I wonder what let's think about Biggie Small's being inducted into that music Hall of Fame. Do do you guys out there believe he deserves it? Or as two albums, as Reggie Wright Jr. Says, not enough to get inducted into the Hall of Fame. I think it's enough, But I wonder what the listeners

and viewers think. Um, let's get back to what we were in the middle of this conversation, and I'm gonna ask you the question, James. So, if you're found not guilty in criminal court, should that be the end of your case? That should be the end. There shouldn't be no civil How can you go to civil if I be criminal? No? Such thing is double standard. And that's why O J. A lot of people was mad. A lot of people don't want to said, but when OJ

beat that case, a lot of people was mad. And then he took his black ass to Las Vegas and created a situation, if I get caught down here going down to get my own ship, these people gonna do something to me. And and he wind up doing time. And they only gave him that time because he beat that case. He beat that case. It ain't too many brothers going down there. If it's it's to me it's politics.

But I think if if, if, if nobody is above the law, and if you show that, if you're letting us know that we are above the law, we're not fit again with you fools is getting out there. You know, we're getting our little five doing half of it and coming home to our family. And black people are to see this, y'all doing the same time as we're getting called for for five years, y'all getting twenty. We're giving y'all twenty years. Y'all ain't gonna come home and be reproductive.

Y'all ain't gonna come home and and commit another crime. You're coming home with nothing when you get out of prison. If if she when they came and got me, when I got out of prison, I knew I had to get a job. I know. I don't want to work hard. I don't want to work in no goddamn warehouse. But the choices I don't have a choice because I got three kids. The average cat get out of prison, ain't I don't want to work. We don't want to work. Why not? Because we keep it one honey, we're lazy

in the motherfucker go in on that. Well, I mean, how how how many motherfucker's laying up abunder their girl and not getting up and paying their paying their fucking bills. I mean, that's us. I put myself in the same category that I'm speaking on, y'all. That's how we are. You know what I'm saying, And and all that. If I know what I know now, I would have been a different motherfucker back then. That that is true. It's true.

But I mean, we get caught up in and and you know, hanging in certain places, want to pick up the girls, and driving a certain card and doing this, and hanging with the homies. Know what I'm saying, We get caught in the ship. We out here killing each other, We out of here fighting over of Bandanna. You know what I'm saying. We're causing the problem. They're only helping us with the problem. We're talking about the police killing us, but we're killing us, man, you know what I'm saying.

So that's a double sword, you know, man, we out here a black cat get killed, a gang member get killed. Every day you get a black kid get killed by the police. Everybody in the uproar pick up them goddamn sticks. And then posters and post every time this hood or that hood killed that cat. Everybody is accountable for the ship. That's what I'm saying, accountability. Get on us about killing each other. You know what I'm saying. Black on black

crime need to stop. They had this one poster where the KKKS was like thinking the blacks for doing their job. How can you be mad at that poster? If a motherucker tell the truth, you can't be mad at him. The truth is the truth. I'm sure there's a lot of people that come home from prison though that they're gonna say. James Man, I came home and did it. I worked twelve hours a day, I went to a warehouse job, I did this, and I did that. And that's when you salute. That's when you salute. That's a

different That's That's not what I'm saying. I'm not I'm okay. If I have to divide, I will. I know how to do that. I divided and say the bad apples and the and the good ones. I'm not saying that. I'm saying when we were in the hood kicking it, I just lost my little cousin last night. I got killed going into the going into the to the looking store, just walking in the looking store. Don't look like no thug,

none of this. And two cats walk up on him and just gut him down on a rose crass and grinshaw. You know, if this ain't senseless, but it hurts, it hurts more. And I can can I can contest of this when it happens to your people, when it happened to you, and and and I lived this life hurting people. You feel me. But when it when it can't, nobody tell me ship we were killing us. I know this for a fact. I've been doing it for years and never thought about it. Now that I'm older, Damn, what

the funk I've been doing my life. Well, those numbers are coming down, and hopefully I think we're gonna see a big change in a lot of these neighborhoods that have been participated in self genocide for the last twenty thirty years. Um, I don't know the circumstances of what happened to your cousin. Uh, you don't know if it's black black or he was killed by game bangers, is right? The guys so they walked up to Maxine where he

was from. YadA, YadA, or whatever and just count them down. Uh, you know, everybody and every black man ain't the game banger. And and this little guy, sure it wasn't a game banger. He didn't look he don't look intimidating, he don't dredge like a thug, he don't walk with his pants off his ass, you know, And you can't say it's sense is when we just start killing just just because, just for the funk of it. Yeah, that's that's something that

really is bothersing in the gang culture. Because when you ask somebody where they're from and they say I ain't from anywhere, that should be the end of it. That should be it. And some of you guys out there don't know how to end it. Go find somebody that's really from somewhere that's really gonna take the business to you, rather than take your anger and frustration out on somebody that already told you I ain't from nowhere. Keep in

real life, you know. So you know that's a that's the problem that we've had for decades in these streets. And you all should be ashamed of yourself if you don't know how to walk away from somebody that says I ain't from nowhere, leave me alone. That should be the end of it. But let's move on to another topic. James, I wanted to ask you what you thought about these tweets. We got the super Bowl coming up San Francisco, forty Niners,

Kansas City Chiefs. They got this young quarterback named Patrick Mahomes. And while I'm about to go into this next question, James has shown me a picture of his cousin that just got killed on Banger Crunshawn Rose crans Um, No, man um. You know, if if the if the brother, if your cousin said I ain't from nowhere or I ain't with that, that should have been the end of it. But but then you got your mother over here right down.

I raised my kids good. But just because you raised your kid, you're still in the hood, you're still living in in in, you in the danger zone. So where no matter where you go, this could be brought to you and the ship need to be fixed. But you can't fix it if we keep the same antilities we have, you know, on some fucking ship that ain't game banging, killing the motherfucker because he ain't win it. That ain't

game banking. Now the dude that did it is definitely somebody that has a lot of anger and rage and doesn't know how to channel it in the right direction. And who that did it is pretty much some somebody like we were, you know what I'm saying in our game banging days, that didn't give a fuck. I'm just hot to get somebody. Yeah, you could probably relate to to the shooter. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I know you're mad at the shooter, But I'd be a fucking fool to sit here and and and make myself look

like a hypocrite. I lived that life, you know what I'm saying. But back in our days, when we've seen the real cats that that that you get a stripe off of with their daughter and their arms are with their family, that cat gotta pass. You ain't gonna die today. We could catch you, you know what I'm saying. Now, you can be in the room place at the wrong time, with the room color on and and you have a problem. But man, I think twenty years old, what's what's your

cousin's name? I ain't calling different ships. Well, I feel your pain, man, I could you know already sitting right next to you, I know I feel it. Already, And man, I just wish that Los Angeles can become a place that I could feel comfortable. Now now, I don't understand when when I tell when when my wife tells me it's eight o'clock and you're gonna let your your boy go to the liquor store, I'm the liquor stories right

down the street. Why are you tripping? No, it's it's already I'm always telling her to let them go out there, and she's like, no, it's already dark. And I'm like, so you don't want our own sun walking to the street. And the reason why is because of what you just showed. Man, she was right the old time, don't let any walk. But sometimes I want my kids to go out there and experience the world. You know. Can't keep them in

the damn closet all the time. That will be the biggest thing to bite you in At the end of the day. You're gonna say, why did I I understand mothers are really more sympathetic to stuff like that, you know. And I'm the type that, hey, go out there, just be careful, watch your back, keep your head on the swivel, go there and get what you gotta get. Be respectful,

don't stare at anybody, and come home. You know. But I'm sure your cousin was probably already knew the drill man and he was going to the stove, you know. And you know, I'm I just lose so many people like this, and not only my loss, whatever,