A Conversation about A.I.D.S

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not with My Dog. Yeah, but we got a special guest co host, my Man from the Holding Court podcast. Resident you know, filling in all the time. Of course you haven't been to show a couple of times already, Big court. What's up, bro? What's going on with your homie? Was cracking? Oh man, You know what, sometimes we have conversations that are funds. Sometimes we have to have conversations to the serious. And uh, it was something I wanted to discuss that. I wanted to have a conversation about AIDS.

H V still impacts the African American and Hispanic community disproportionately to everyone else. We're right ahead of transgenders though we've actually I think moved ahead of homosexuals, right, you know. And I wanted to have a conversation about it because me and James did an episode with a guy that was a former pimp and he thought AIDS was non existing. He said, they didn't. You're there, yea, not say it, bro, No, there's no cure for hip. I said, they have ways

to put people in remission, but it's still they're killing people. Yeah, for sure. So you know, since I do feel it's a duty man for us not to just be talking here. So I feel that we have to discuss things sometimes to give information to people because it may just save somebody's life. Right for sure. It has spread it like what the motorcycle said, there's a lot of people out

there that's catching it, you know, riding motorcycles. So you know everybody that riding motorcycle, damn they get you know, they picked a choice of a woman. A lot of those guys don't tell you or that female that they has the hip b because the first thing, and this is what was told to me, Why would I tell

somebody I got it? And then now to isolated from the bite setting people are funk with so they won't tell you they got it, and they move around as if they don't have Wow, that's the danger in it. You know a lot of people got it but won't say ship and they fucking and then go home to their wife or girlfriend and keep it pushing. Yeah, go ahead, No,

that's what I'm saying. So, you know, how can you control something or get controlled of something that nobody's gonna even disclose to you that they got it or whatever. They just keep and they continue to give it to other people, you know, and pretend like they ain't never had it. You can't do that, And that's crazy because I mean in this day and age, you know, with the advancements of medication, you know, it's really not the

stigma attached to it, you know what I'm saying. So, you know, you know, back in the in the eighties and in the nineties, you know, of course it was always um, it was kind of attached. It always had the thing of being a gay disease, you know. But nowadays, I would think that someone wouldn't wouldn't need to feel like that, you know what I'm saying, because it's so commonplace. But at the same time, you know, I think that I don't know, like you said, the media, the mainstream media,

they've been very mum about HIV and age. Uh they haven't. They had a whole lot, you know what I'm saying, it's not And I think, like I said before, maybe the advancement of of medication, because now they can they have medication where it can be suppressed, to where it can't be detected in your blood. You know, you can't, you know, they have medications where you don't transmit it. So I think people have probably become very laxed. Uh, you know, in terms of the fear of it, the

phobia isn't there. I guess of catching it. I'm guessing, you know, because living in Las Vegas, you're going to strip you got prostitutes. We already know that age is real big and biggest. But you got tourists that come out there and they solicit m and they don't give a funk if longer she fine, and got the kiddies and whatever they solicit, So they don't think about taking that chance that one night, that one weekend, and then go back home wherever the funk they come from, and

then bam, this is how we spread this ship. So ain't nobody taking the proper precautions to say, if I do funk around this is I'm gonna make sure I'm good. Ain't nobody doing that? And and that's a part of the accountability too, because a lot of people don't know their status is a lot of people are loose with themselves and they don't get check ups, and they don't force their partners to get check up even even just pass some some prostitution, just casual encounters, you know what

I mean, like bolk. Don't they not on it like they used to be, which you know, I mean, I don't know, we still as as a culture or disproate ortionately affected by it. And then two, I think what contributes to that is the the phenomena of downlow men. You know what I mean, you know, men jumping the fence. I think that you know, and and not to to to relegated to just being engage disease. But at the same time, you know, I mean, the science is there.

You know, vaginal sex is less risky than ain't no sex. I mean, and you took the words right out of my mouth, Court, where I was gonna read black men who have sex with men m S M and women but who do not identify as KAY or disclosed that by six with activities. Two main female partners also known as mental download have been sighted as the main reason for the increased HVP infections and black women mhm. And

it's scary. It's alarmly scary. I'm gonna tell you something. See, you got to remember we had two big incidents in our generation. Court. I'm I'm older than you, right, and me and James. You know, I'm like kind of in between both of you guys. Right, So we had when Maxi Johnson had it that many people really take a

look at it. But then when Eric caught it, when easy He got it, it really made the African American community start looking at saying, man, you know what this stuff is real because Eric wasn't gay, he wasn't homosexual man, and he caught it right right those days. And I know you can remember when you go and get a blood transfusion. A lot of people was catching it then. But then when I was in prison eighty six, eight, seven,

eighty eight, you had men messing with men. You you see, maybe every other month they will come and see him c and snatch your ass out that sealed in these white suits and take your ass to Tino. A lot of those gay, those guys would come home and go home to their wives, roll home to their wives, not telling oh I got rolled up because they thought I had a job v or I got it, so yeah, and those guys came home continuing to funk with men

on the down though. So you know, it's just it's how people don't care about life because once you get it, you don't give a funk about nobody else because if you did, you wouldn't have sex no more. So it was just NonStop. So it was a lot of things that contribute to you know, the deals and the cats getting out of prison going home to their wives. This is how a lot of the black women were catching HIV because they men were coming home and and and and making love to him. You know what I'm saying.

Some men was coming home having ain'tal sex and doing all this other ship because they enjoyed that ship in prison. Trust me, I know a lot of motherfucker's had it. Let me let me ask you something, James, this is kind of off the subject. Yes, they no, being that you're in prison. Um, do you think that those guys that you're talking about where they gave for the state or do you think they was gay before they even went in there, you know what I'm saying? Or is

that something they picked up in prison? And you mean just said okay, I'm with this ship now. Well normally you would say a guy with fifteen to life soon or later he's gonna turn that way. But it's not true. You had guys in there with life, have been in there twenty years. They never touched the punk, you know, So it was just you know, some cats gotta have sex or feel like they needed or whatever, so they went to a man. You know, some of them punks

was in there straight with it. You know what I'm saying, that had the little little lots only chest and ship and they started being silly and the next thing, you know, they turned out or they just had it in them already. So you know, it varies. But you know, a lot of cash that that went that way, they come home that way. You know what I'm saying, ain't no going back to the straight narrow. It was from cashing there. Yeah,

I'll poke the pump. Yeah I ain't gay. And you know what, I knew some dudes on that same time too, like they you know, I remember a dude that I grew up with. He tried to say that because he wasn't the one being bent over, you know, because he was the one getting head somehow another you know, he wasn't gay. He's very much gay, That's what I said, you know what I mean. But he tried to rationalize

it like it was some type of prison understanding. But you know, but what I take umbrage with, I take umbrage with like I don't care what grown people do. You know, and you just said, probably what they do in their bedroom is whatever. But I think it's irresponsible when you have someone like live your truth. You know, I don't really believe I'm not gonna say I don't believe in bisexuality because I don't want to offend anyone. But at the same time, I think that if that's

what you do, didn't do that. I think when you jump the fence, that's what creates the problem where you see these numbers skyrocket, you know, because again we're talking about antal sex just you know, not to be uh graphic or nothing like that, but I mean it is what it is, you know. So the risk the risk factor of being becoming infected, uh, you know, it raises substantially, you know what I mean. And then they come back over to black women. And that's how we have black women.

I believe being you know, disproportionately affected. You is. I don't mean to cut job North, but you got black man with white men, you know. So it's in the racial it's it's not just black men going to black women or black men. I've seen the black dude with the Asian dude and they was actually on the bench kissing. So today in this society, it's open, it's all out those you see it on TV, you see it in the cartoons, you see it on the dog swim. It's everywhere.

So what are they tell me it's okay to promote, you know what I'm saying, So taking it out to closet, it's gone. Being in the closet is gone. So I think you make it hard for us to raise our kids because you don't want them to watch TV. You gotta make them close their eyes when you see this ship. Don't go to Magic Mountain up Disneyland and you see

him walking and hugging and all of that ship. So you can't you can't really go out in the public now because you see it everywhere, you know what I'm saying, And like you said earlier, they have medication that makes you think that it's okay to go that route. And then I think it's not being like like norm said, it's it's not being talked about like it was back in the day, you know what I'm saying. Like I can remember when Easy died. When Easy died, I was

it was ninety five. I just graduated high school, and I can remember feeling are all outsided by the by the just the fact that somebody that was like me, somebody in the hood, somebody in my culture was infected. Because to be very honest with you, bro, I never had any type of education or conversations about HIV and AGED before that, so there was nothing in school. There was nothing that that I saw promote, Like I was ignorant to the fact where I thought that it was.

It was just the gay disease. I mean, because that's kind of how they marketed it back then, you know what I mean, that was the information was out there. But when easy got it, it was like, oh, ship, that ship in the hood. And then you know, it was like all of a sudden, it was like, yeah, it's been in the hood, and then by that time it was too late. But I almost wonder if it's some type of conspiracy, the fact that it's not promoted

and it's not you know, they promote the medications. You see the medications on TV with the gay couple, like, oh, you know, almost like you know, we already know you got this ship, so here's what you do to live a long life. But I think the prevention, you know, the prevention is always the best cure. And I think that that lack of of of of talking about it and still promoting it, that it's very much prevalent, you know, that ship becomes more recudescent in the culture. You know

what I'm saying. I think that's why numbers continue to climb where they should be declining at this point. You know. But it is like nobody talks about it. Bro, and I don't know what it is about the black community. We just have a tendency to where we see things there, but we just decide not to address it because oh, well, it's not going to pack me. We kind of um put this false sense of security around ourselves and think, oh, that has never happened to me, and no one and

I love I don't have no gay people. But it's not a gay disease. It's a disease. Is that anybody can kiss? Well, yeah, responsibility. If I had hip V I have to take it upon myself to be responsible not to pass it. Ain't nobody taking incredibility for the ship that they know got it. But I don't want to say nothing like I said earlier, if if people know you haven't, people ain't gonna want to shake your hand, They ain't gonna give you that death and they don't.

Nobody want to feel isolated from the world people like that anymore. I don't think it's like that anymore. I think I think it's usually it's usually just because you know, when people are trying to find love, if trying to have a relationship is probably one of them difficult conversations. But I don't think Pete. I don't know that people are ignorant and they're doing what they were doing in the Haighties anymore. You know, at least they shouldn't be.

I wouldn't think that they were. I can see people from James generation kind of still being like that because they were never really educated on it like that anyway. And it's still less stigma months a lot of older men, especially black and Hispanic men, that you know what, oh he got that stuff. I don't want to be wrong. If I don't want to drink out of this glass, I might you know, he drunk out the cup through

the glass, away German sheets, he leaves, you know. So it's still that same type of thing because people aren't educated, they don't educate themselves. You have to think about it. When the whole thing came out Easy and Magic Johnson, there was a push for a minute to educate people. They were passing out condoms and this's and that's all responsibility as parents to still talk to our kids about those things. I talked to all of my boys, both of my boys and my daughter. I talked to him, Hey,

that you know about this disease. It's still out there, do you know? So you have to ask your partner. And there was a thing I saw when I was in school, and they had to sign up in the wall for every person that you sleep with, you slept with the person they slept with, and they showed these two people, but it showed all these bodies behind each of them, and I thought about how profound that was. I said, Wow, that he is true. So you have

to have a partner if you don't know their history. Man, if you got me suspects about it, you know, if you suspect any type of in any type of way that this dude might be kind of, you know, help to forget if he's sleeping with other dudes. If he don't buy it. The whole bunch of girls like you gotta ask about the history. Have you ever had a disease before? Have you ever had even as far, have you ever had lamilia or or um? And remember, brother, things,

it's easier to saying. It's easier to saying because they can say no norm like I was telling you, bro on the motorcycle set of today, the bike set, you have young people, not no old motherfucker's you have young people. I did. That's that's that's that has HIV. Now, however they're controlling it or whatever is one thing, but it's worser now, like on the strip in Las Vegas. It's worser now than it was twenty seven years ago. And oli enough, I see more commercials about HPV than I

do HIV in terms of prevention. You know, they promoted the hp BE is if I mean you can live with that, you know what I mean? Like you know what I'm saying. Men don't even have symptoms with that, and women can live with it, but it can lead to certain types of cervical candider cervical cancer number and I host a number issues. Because the thing is, we seem to have this invincibility factor as Black and hispanning men like, oh, that had never happened to me until

it happens. Because I remember my cousin when she got it, her husband was a hemophiliate, didn't mess it wrong. I'm talking about these were very they were professionals, you know. He was a director at the hospital. She was the principal of the school. So they were two people that she would never think, you know, you never look at them and say, oh, what they have. You know, he's possibly has hof and you wouldn't think about it like that.

But he went to Kaiser got a blood transfusion. They had no clue when t Kaiser called then one they were actually about to go on vacation of Europe. Hey, we need you to come in. What's going on. We're going on vacation. Can this wait? No, this can't wait. You need to come in. So they're like, what's going on. You know, we've had an accident. We had a breach, chump and unfortunately you were in effect that we need to test your wife from back then it wasn't as

incident as it was. You know, you go take a test right now, you're getting your results in five minutes, you get your results to fight or ten minutes. Hell, they even got to test people can take it home, you know, you know, to determinate status. So they called them in and you know, the wife didn't believe it. The husband, you know, that's traumatic, but you know what he said, he had a mindset like that because they were a Christian couple. He handled totally different than she did.

He said, you know what, any treatment mistakes you've got, And they wound up getting five or six million from cars. And I still think they may be settled out of court too early because at that time they probably were their minds thinking we may be dead in two years, so we need to take what we can get. We don't have the time to track this out of litigation,

so they took what they can get. I would have been pushing the ass for twenty and fifty million dollars personally, but he wound up taking a real aggressive course of treatment. And when I tell you not that this guy is remarried and has had children since he was you know, since he was diagnosed healthy, looks just as healthy as he's one of us. She died, She died with him two years because she refused treatment, and she was just so angry because her perfect life was disrupted. Not that

I can blame her. That has to be a traumatic experience. I can't even imagine what she went through. But she went through this real dark period to where her rumors that she possibly was messing with other dudes you know, like she was just angry to the point where I remember they said when she was in hospital and dying, she was seeing people. She was seeing like spirits and

everything like that. You know, they started going through this little form of dementia when they started seeing stuff and everything. She had the source and her body and so you see, this beautiful black woman just just tore apart dog And it was the saddest thing ever to me, and it made me handle it, and it made me handle my life a certain way right right. You know, even before that, I was scared to death of her. I mean that ship. That ship makes monogamy look cool, you know what I mean,

it does. You know, here's why I've been with the same woman since I was like teen years old. You know, I was scared to death of her. Yeah, me too easy. When Easy died, bro, I'm telling you, I was like, oh Jesus Christ, you know what I mean. You start thinking about everything that you could have done, and you know, you start thinking, damn, where is she? You know, like, damn, I ain't seen such a such damn and she did,

like your mind. But you know, I think you know prevention that I always say that man prevention is the best cure. You know, uh know your status and and and you know, protect yourself. And like I said, if you start new relationships, man, go get tested together, you know. And one one thing I do know, Like you just said about your uncle, Uh you said your uncle, right, your cousin. Just like you said about your cousin, bro, Listen, in this day and age, a lot of that ship

ain't stopping nothing, you know what I mean. Like like you said, he's moved on with his life, you know what I'm saying. So I think that you know, for the for the for the better part of it, that it's more acceptable, you know. And I understand that it could be generational divides with that, um, but you know, I think to this new newer generation, it's you know, I mean, if they're educated, if they're they're in the no, then they don't have to hide, you know what I'm saying.

Because you funk around and meet somebody and be like damn, I'm HIV positive, they'd be like, oh my god, I'm glad you said something, so am I You know what I mean? You know, And as scary as that he is, but I believe like this, I believe if you meet a person to day and this is what I would be on you know what, You're cool. I like you.

But we're gonna do this for both of us. Mean you're gonna go get tested before we do anything, and and until I really go two we got married or whatever, we would be going to go get a test every six months because I want to know, right, I want to know, because I don't know, because you could be sleeping with a woman who has the appearances of being wiped you know, um sweet, probably pure bread, but she may be a beast in that bed room. She may got more buddies on earth she than all free us

put together. You don't know. I don't want to know.

And it only takes one time, you know, one time, And I mean listen, if we get into the science of it, uh, you know, and I don't well, I don't want to say that to to missdirect anybody, right, but like me and you was talking still, it's relatively hard to get you know, vaginally, you know what I'm saying, Like you can have sex with a woman vaginally and and not get it and she but the other way around is not true though, because if a man is HIV positive we can infect the woman easier than she

can affect in fact us, you know what I'm saying. So um, but I think it's just like I said, Man, it's yeah, it's like it's it's I don't think that that just as a whole people really understand the brevity of it like they used to because motherfucker's is more afraid think about that, they're more afraid of COVID. Motherfucker will wear a mask. But don't dog, raw dog of hooker,

you know what I mean? And as that was the craziest thing in the world, dude, it's like in the year two thousand and twenty two, who would be out there, raw dog and somebody because not only do you have HIV, you have a whole of a number of diseases. You have en them to her piece, you have sent them to awards, you have all for media, You got gonna rhea, and you got this other stuff. I don't remember the name of it, but they were saying, this thing is

damn they're worth the leaves. Yeah, yeah, you all gonna suffer. You're gonna suffer. You stick your chest out every time you take down a different female, right, m You feel like you feel. Yeah, I got got me. You know what I'm saying, especially if with a ring on. You know me, if she married and not chake it down, I did something. She gotta go home to that mother.

And I mean, we ain't gotta argue noticed situation. Yeah, just say people really don't care know about sex, sex and sex and everybody from the nightclubs to to to wherever means somebody in the grocery store. It don't take a month to have sex with that person. You know, some men and some women seek to have sex with other people because their partner are not great in bad so they're looking for something different and they it's not a conscious mind. It just I want different, And you

know what slays? I feel that nothing cuts you off? Brother, But you know, without respect, if I'm not doing it for you in the bad room, please come and tell me. Hey, I don't think this is work. I like you as a person. I think you're a wonderful person, but I need more. Guess what I try tomorrow, but the sun

is still shining. Next thing, don't play with about your don't happen where you hear that, Norman, ain't nobody's gonna keep you one hunted like that until they get mad at you and say all that motherfucker's got a little They don't, they don't. Is that always at the end? Oh that puks you throw out, But you're still sucking that,

You still student. And that's what I'm saying, because you knew that dude had a little bick when you're married, when you got with him, and you decided to get with him, and you decided to marry shortly, you know, shortly short of truth. You gotta get that. You gotta go the vibrator or something like that. You know, we don't get out playing with the motherfucker's life. That ain't cool. Yeah, definitely, definitely. But like that's a great point that you made though, James.

I mean, like you said, sex is so cheap, you know what I mean. There's there's you know, when you have that casual ship like that, there's no meaningful connections, you know, and those are stimes you know, And and you said, but but you know, to think about it, man, you know some you at some point it seemed like as man, you you outgrow that, you know what I'm saying. Theoretically, at least you should, you know, you should you can't

keep doing a little boy stuff. I couldn't imagine. I mean, as many beautiful women as I'm around, and I see, I'll be honest with you that I don't respond to them like that because I gotta like your ass, like I gotta kind of connect you and be comfortable with you. You know what I mean? When you when you fourteen, fifteen, you know, even eighteen years old, the wind blow and then motherfucker rock up on you. Right, you will put that the more sucking a blender if it feels good

what I'm saying. But you get to a certain age where you know your affections, you start looking at the quality of a woman because at the same time, this is the woman that's probably gonna raise your kids, you know what I'm saying. So you start looking at like like, you know, like we're in this bad bitch culture, and I'm like, what constitutes you as a bad bitch? Because you got a fake fat ass and you know, an augmented body. Like I'm looking at what's your education, what's

your personality? Like, you know what I'm saying, what what's your aspirations? What's ship that's that's the ship that count. Yeah, with that, you're probably gonna get a responsible adult that you know most likely doesn't have anything, and if they do, they probably would let you know. You know, but when you're chasing them city girls, ain't no telling what you're gonna come up with. You should be asking. I know, for me, would attracted me most to my wife was

the fact that she wasn't promiscuous. She was a church girl. She wouldn't come up to my part with me. We sat on the stupid at university, or we were sitting in their car. You know, I was a young dude. I was trying to get her to come up there to the department, but she wouldn't have happen, And that maybe like her even more maybe valuable. As I looked, I didn't look at it as the object at that point. I look the I was like, man, I'm married this girl.

That's like I'm on raising my kids between your wife yester years to the wifey I want today. Because a lot of women don't leave nothing for the mind. You see everything you see, you see it all right there. See. Most of the women of today don't know the worth of self meaning hurt. They just there for the moment. They you know, we got fifty five sixty year old women prefer forty thirty nine year old young man. How can you get a young man of that age when

he has yet to reach his peak? So you actually planning yourself all this time, all this time, and now you have to be mother because the average cat you get ain't working. Are he doing is laying up playing PlayStation, doing his thing, and and he he hitting the old ads. One day you wake up because he didn't hit the upside the head with the pillow. Now you'll be like, damn, maybe can you go pay a bill or something for me? But now it's hard to get rid of that cat.

But what I'm saying is a lot of women don't know they worked today. Yeah, that's the fortunately, Yeah, that's right, James. I mean it's the culture too, just like you know, on the man's side, you know you have us, you know, you have the youngsters, you know, preaching this drill and this kill and this negative ship. You know what I mean. It's the same thing with the young girls and the women. You know, they don't understand the importance of of a union.

Nobody wants to be married. Everybody wants to be a bad bitch or a baby mama, you know what I mean, And all of that stuff kind of to still was saying earlier, Like you said your attraction with your wife, if I could guess, she probably had a father around, She probably had a strong father figure, you know what I'm saying, So exactly the same thing with my wife. My wife grew up with a father and her she had her father's love, her father's so she wasn't seeking

that approval and that attention from just anywhere. You know what I'm saying, Because a lot of these girls be seeking you know, uh, that protection and that attention that they didn't get in the house. So um, yeah, the culture is different now. That's why we gotta like my daughters. You know everywhere you still you met my daughters. I ain't raised no hot girls. I didn't raise none of that. Even once my oldest daughter became a woman. And I

understand a woman wants to feel sexy. I totally get that, right, But I used to tell the rule of thumb. If you're gonna show some cleavage, cover up the bottom half. If you're going to wear something fitted on the bottom, cover up the top half. Is one or the other don't just be you know what I'm saying, don't just like that leave something. It's like, you gotta talk to your daughters like you talk to your sons. You can't, damn though, you can't discriminating that conversation. And I know

what's uncomfortable to sell, don't you know? When I knew it was time. When we were in Atlanta, I would turn around every five minutes and kick some grown asser looked like he older than me looking at my daughter, and then we kissed me off. But then that's when I realized, I said, she's turning into a young lady. Now I have to have these conversations with it, because I understand the power of an older nigga with a mouth exactly right, exactly. But what you fail to realize,

both of y'all got daughters. Don't take the difference here. Your your Your daughters grew up with their mom and their father. They understand, They see what it is to be a man and what type of man they want, So they're not gonna be out there as reckless as the young girl that's not around her father all the time. So they grew up with values, understanding what it is and what they want when they get to that point.

You know what I'm saying, there's not a woman, a young woman on this planet today that don't go through the the homeward thing and want to experience what it feels like or what you know, what is love or you know, you see what I'm saying. So where we come in at is we kind of determined from them their own thought, you see what I'm saying. So every time we keep saying no, that ain't the one, that ain't the one, don't do it like this, that makes

them want to further investigate, you know, certain situations. So we can only be parents now. The difference with with with my daughter, having my daughter the whole time for eight years while her mama was going away doing her thing. I've explained to my daughter, rowing uncut, you don't want to cat like your daddy, you don't want to cat like your uncles. But when they grow up, they want

to see for themselves. So giving it to her, the the growing uncut, I probably put a little too much on it because now she won't that rowing uncutting in it, so she believed, you see what I'm saying, So we could be doing it the right way. And we could be doing it the wrong way at the same time, we could be right wrong. I had to say it ain't my fault because when I allowed her to go back with her mother. One thing Pops didn't tell her is that sweet talk ship, Oh you're so fine, baby,

because I can't go on that character. This is my child. So when that dude get to talk into the mind and she never been in a relationship, is something brand new to your child, you know what I'm saying, as a young woman, and she's amazed by that because her mind is fully developed. Don't understanding that this is bullshit propaganda.

So they fall into that track regardless of what. But that's when we say we stepped back and allowed them to grow up and be young women, because whether y'all know it or not, your daughters are its instilled and I'm already you just don't look at it like that. But they see the difference of man, you see what I'm saying. They already know, Hey, let's pay bill is real quick and we get right back to y'all. Well, you know one thing I was gonna say is, you know,

women not knowing their word farm. I was watching the movie Baby Boy, the other day. It's on It's on Lulu, and I haven't seen that movie and maybe fifteen years, and I just looked at the relationship, and I looked at it. I said, you know, here you go. You got Tyree's he asked, two beautiful baby mothers, right, you know, he got to Roger Heinson and he got the other girl, both of them beautiful young ladies. Yet they accepting this dude going out cheating on him, she finding condoms in

the back of the car. He don't messed around with the girl, look at her job and stuff, and she still puts up with it because she on there like, that's my baby daddy. I love him no, and I wanted to come back he don't love you no more than I looked at it now, and I looked at it way different. I give up younger, I said, the women are pathetic on here. Who would you just sit up and accept some bullshit like that? A motherfucker that don't work, a motherfucker that don't do enough, but coming

in the late fight. But he ain't saying no bills and half father to his child. He's still a little boy. He's still clinging to his mama's titty because every time he gets mad at her, what do you do? He leave the house and go home in his room. He don't even want his mama to have a boyfriend, you know, until Melvine gets smack him upside the head and you know, gets mac right in them. But he's still a little boy. And that's the same thing about these guys to chase

these women. See, I'm gonna tell you it takes a man to be a man. And I'm not knocking what nobody else do, bro, but it takes a certain level of maturity to say this is my woman, I'm gonna hold my house down, I'm gonna take care of my house. And to take care of my house, that means I'm ou off. They're slinging my dick. Ter every sally and sues m Well, knowing you got you got young men

out there like my cheftain. No man until he got it fifty years old, forty five years old, don't understand what it is to be a man, don't understand responsibility like some of these young women. You're young, you have the child, you think you love this person. That's why he's stuck with Goldie because Jody was was that dude, he didn't have to have no job. We see this every day. Women fall in love with with with what's

outside on the outside of him. You know, it could be his dubism, whatever they want to call it, but both of them. Women love that dude. You know what I'm saying, not understanding what it's something out there that's better, but they know what the baby daddy is somebody totally different. We always say I'm ship, I'm the baby daddy. I can go back and hit any time. No, if you're not a productive father, everybody don't know how to be a parent, even young women. They don't know how to

be mothers. And you know what, James, I pushed back on that a little bit, and I'll tell you why, because, like my situation is unique. You know, my situation is kind of an anomaly because I've been with mine, I've been with my wife's. I was fifteen, you know, And to be very honest with you, when I my wife is older than me. So when I was younger, I was you know, this ain't what it was when I was fifteen. When I was fifteen, it looked like I was gonna either go to prison or I was gonna

wind up, you know what I'm saying, dead um. But even with that, he saw something to me that I didn't see him myself. So sometimes, you know, when you speaking to affairs of the heart, you know, yeah, we could look on because if somebody had to judge me like that, if somebody would have said, because I mean, she was in college, she had a two parent household, she was a good girl, wasn't out there all of that,

you know, But me, I was still complete opposite. So it looked like what the funk you doing with this nigger? Like you know what I mean, you could do so much better. Hell, it was times where I thought she could have did better too, you know. But but you know when you talk about affairs of the heart, and I think that's what makes the beauty of a relationship, when people can grow together because motherfucker's changed, you know

what I'm saying. So motherfucker might be you know, stuck on stupid for a second, but you you know, give him some time and you love on them and you support them, and they can turn that corner, you know what I mean. Because one thing I taught my daughter, I talked my daughter. I didn't take her to to to look for men with money and all of that. Not at all, right, because what I used to tell her is your mother is here because she chooses to be. She don't have to be. You know, she's educated, she

has a career. So I always told my daughter, if you get with a nigga and he don't got ship, that's cool. You can rock with that as long as he is pro actively, exactly exactly actively trying to get something. If he's okay not having ship, no you don't that. I told my daughter the same thing, because it's the such thing as growing together. You meet that young man. No, he may have him a job for UPS. Yeah, you know,

he may have a job at UPS. My whole thing is this, I've always wanted my daughter just to have a man. Now there wasn't a damn bum to have its sense of pride. I don't give with them. If people work the ups in the daytime sl and boxes in the nighttime, had a job with overnight ship, I would never have my daughter. That's a man, because that's a man that's gonna provide for us also, and he's going to do anything. Because I know for me, we've all been fortuned on here that we're able to do

what we love. We're living. But if this ship wouldn't a way, I have no problem. Want to go shut with ship to take put food on the table. We're doing what I have to do. I don't have my My old pride comes from me take being a provider. My kids ain't never missing no meals. My kids don't know where it is to come to the house, and the lights ain't turned on, the biggest thing with them. The worst thing is if the cable is off or

the internet, I get to pay the build internet. It's like that happened to me the other day, still about three days ago. And that's how I fund acause I don't get to I don't take care of that. That's the one deal I take care of in the house personally. Right If the internet is off, Pops, what's wrong with the internet? All my bad? Let's be gonna take this thing.

But it's six things I want to read, and I want the people out here to really pay attention to this because I'm tired of seeing our people die with dumb ship that they don't have to die from. So this is just a start. This is my contribution. Number one. Black Americans account for almost half of new affections in the US each year, despite representing only thirteen percent of

the population. Although prevention efforts have contributed to a decrease in the number of new HIV diagnosis among Black Americans, progress has been inconsistent. Black Americans remain more likely to be exposed to HIV, not because they participated more risky behavior, but because the prevalence of HIV is much greater in this community compared with other racial ethnic groups. Number two and estimated fourteen percent of Black Americans living with HIV

are not aware of their status. Go out and get tested. They can add years onto your life. They even have a medicine now that I saw on TV to where if you sleep with somebody you can take it the day after and the knocks down the chances of UK and HIV exponentially. Go know your status. You don't have to die. I don't have to be a depth sence. But go take care of yourself. Go find out what's wrong. Number three one and two Black men in the US who are gay will be diagnosed with HIV in their lifetime.

That's some scary as ship. Let's say that's scary yourself because you think about it. Even if you're not, you can say, oh that on the pact me because I'm not gay. Man. How you know one of them dudes ain't ain't um living in the shell. One of them down, no dudes and he's sleeping with somebody he knows that. You know, ran across bro. Most of them are. And that's what I'm saying. Number Number four, the incidents of HIV has decreased, has decreased among Black women in the US.

That's the only good thing I've seen on this motherfucker so far. The CDC estimated that the number of HIV diagnosed among Black women decreased fort However, new infections remain more common in Black women than the women of other racial ethnic groups. Number five. Black transgender women are more likely to be infected with HIV compared with tranship to women and the other racial ethnic groups. Number six. HIV related deaths are more likely to occur in Black Americans

compared with other groups. And that's because we don't find out what's going on with us. And it's not just with HIV, is with fum correct um, colon cancer, other diseases. We just don't go It's almost like we lived in this delusion, bro, under this cover like to where oh I'm gonna put this cover over my head, or I'm gonna hold a penny up to the sun because it's blocking the sun out, but the sun is still shine. It's just an illusion. We think. What you think that's

a tribute to still you know what, Bro? I think it's attributed to people just not wanting to know. Bro. They feel like if they're go on with life is just gonna go away. But it's still there. It's like the monstrous like and I just said it, it's almost like holding a penny up to the sun. You can hold a penny up to the sun and holding a certain way looked like you're blocking off the sun. You keep thinking you're blocking the sun. You stand out there

and burning death right right? Get black and the mother have medical insurance to go get checked. Um, that's what they should start. Everybody need insurance. A lot of them don't have games, but you don't. You don't need insurance to go get checked though. But you're right in saying that we should have universal healthcare that we we are. We don't have you know, a one healthcare by large but you're right though. Number two, a lot of us

are lazy. Like you said, no, don't want to know, just bro, that's the biggest fear of one's life is to know that I got this, to know that I got cancer, to know that uh I could be dying. We don't want to know that. As we're talking about HfV, especially Don Juan, it's always bragging. Yet man, I bag this bag the other night. Why I got this bad big store. I got my little young big shover ya,

I got my old bigs over here, them type the dude. Subconsciously, they don't want to know because when they're gonna take their test, they get the thing about every slimy, creepy crawl a book of band that they don't ring across in their lifetime, and they start thinking like damn, I wonder where the funk's yet right now? Or this one looking skin. They get the call of people, what you've been up to? You good? You know what I mean? What's yeah? And they do that, bro, and then the

thing you know is my thing is this. It's just your responsibility as a decent human being into the people that you love to go make sure that you can be here I go get man, I'm gonna tell you, once I hit forty, I started on the dartor more than ever. If I had a little mark of my skin. I was taking my ass to the doctor. Man with this this road, that's you sure, We'll give me some blood work just to make sure. I was mad. It's hell,

my motherfucking doctor. She gave me your physical and I said, well, when you go do the blood work, I need to know everything that's going on with me. They still have you? Have you? You You had a price state check at though. Yeah all that dog, Yeah, I did too, bro, like forty. I think it was forty folk, Bro, I got a little Asian doctor. Man just just traumatized me. And I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna take you. I don't like it because I had one of them big turkeys doctors

that came in just here he was with everything. He took this finger wrong like my thump myself. Oh man, no, man, ain't no other way you can do this with no club work, he said, And before hen he said, that's okay. You would not stuck up? Man? What is your doing? What is you do? Know? Hey? Thank God? Man shout out to shout out to Dr lu Man, I had no mine, little Asian sweet woman, you know what I'm saying that, But I remember I was feeling violated and of course as me and you know we we we

don't funk with that. You know, we got that nobody playing with our boot dog. That's what made the toxic masculinity kick in. But you know it works against us. But yeah, I told my homeboys to man, that's the thing too, man, we got to share the information and try to encourage each other to to get checked out and to be proactive and preventative healthcare. You know, because I was telling my homeboys, like I made it a joke. I was like, man, like, man, my little doctor violated me. Bro.

But I was like, man, y'all need to do that because I know a few guys that I went to high school with it died from process prostate cancer. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so you know a lot of these things, you know, I early detection, you know, even just with like for instance, I I had, uh, I had, I was pre diabetic. Even though I'm in shape, I eat right and I exercise, if I hadn't went and got a physical and seeing that my A one C was elevated. Then you know, I very well could

have become a diabetic. But because I caught it quick, I was able to make the necessary dietary changes and got it under control. So now I ain't got to take insulin and no ship like that. So you know, preventative healthcare, man, we gotta we gotta really support each other with that and push that in and like like, like Big Jay said, everybody don't have insurance. This is true,

but there are programs is out there. You know, if you if you want to get it done, you know you would seek out the information and their programs that support people, you know, to get physicals and and get what they need health wise. M And that's and that's the real stuff. And I'm gonna tell you another thing you can do we can HV. Another silent killer is high blood pressure. I'm gonna tell your brother something. Shout out to my boy Willie Mammon from the Long Beach Movement.

He's fighting for his life tonight. Um. He was at his job and him and his supervisor is real cool. The supervisor was joking with him, was heaven sometimes to come to work early if he had a show and you know, be on his desk in his office, you know, taking that little last little minute that before he started shift. So it's what it was, jumping him like, man, I told you about going on our party and come to work. Wake up and he noticed he wouldn't respond. He woke

up and the dude was just real. Despond had a glaze over his eye. He had a heart attext. So now he's in the hospital under a medicated coma, fighting for his life. I'm gonna tell you something about them high blood pressure fields. They make your head her sometimes they mess with your manhood. Gonna tell you something. You ain't knocking too much down't no way on with you didn't hear no more? Go get you, Go get your blood pressure checked out, man, Go get you go get

your cold and checked out. Man. Go know your status, man, Go know you safe so you can walk around this motherfucker with confidence. You know you're here. So what's a van of something hits me? I can know I'm perfectly healthy. Man. Health, Health is wealth man at the end of the day, because you think about it, bro, you got what was it Steve Jobs? He had all the money in the world, but he couldn't buy good health. You know, he would try to be able to have a week of just

feeling good. And when you think about cancer patients, you think about people who actually died of age, and you know all these terminal illnesses. Imagine just you know you're having a common code and how bad you feel them first, you know too three days. Imagine feeling a hundred times worse than that all the time. You know what I'm saying. So you know I didn't have all of it at one time. I didn't add high blood pressure, high colester. Wrong, I'm gonna die, Betty my a one he was at eleven.

Oh wow, I'm talking about with all the four of these things going on with me, and with motherfucker trying to snap that globe and tell me to bend over. He gotta check. No, you're not, I may do. Motherfucker's putting me to sleep. And they did think then when I was days you made him put you to sleep and do it. Hell yeah, you ain't gonna check that,

So what at least you got it done. Though. I had to realize that with all of these things, and I listened to that doctor tell me, man, you can lose your eyesight and everything else if you don't big this. Within a year, they took me off high cholester roll pills. They took me off the high blood pressure pills. The only thing I got now is my my diabetes. Now that I have walked away from the motorcycle, set my one see us at a seven and a half eight. And I'm still trying to get a lawyer. I don't

want to take this other injection to do that. I want to do it naturally. I want to try to let me think this, let me do this. Well, it's hard. What did you do? What did you do to correct those things? And what are you doing to correct your a I stopped beating a lot of handburger food on that fright ship. I stopped beating all that ship. I quit the bread, the rice and all that ship. And I was able to lose the weight because I was at that time, I was two eight seven. Yeah, I'm

two forty now. So I had to I had to lose the weight. I had to correct my diet. When I ate, I only eight portions. You know what I'm saying. I didn't need to figures have a big old feast and constantly eight after twelve o'clock. So I had to change a lot of ship because if I didn't, I probably wouldn't be here right now. And if I would, I'll be doing this ship. Yeah, yeah, able to Congrats to you, though, that's difficult to change that, So bro,

that's that. Yeah, congrats because we have to know. And I did this without without sucking, like really exercise, That's what I was about saying. I was about to say, if you start exercising on the regular, it'll get even better. That A one C would correct itself even more. He's got damn cigarettes and I gotta I gotta treadmill in my room. You use that, Yeah, my gresson used that motherfucker moon not do that. What I was gonna tell

your mother will be on that motherfuck morning. Yeah, you know how to do it, man, Put that motherfucker on two point five three point oh at the at the highest and just get a brisk walk. Do that ship like, do it past it. Do that ship on an empty stomach in the morning, and do it boy, thirty minutes, do it like you can do it every other day. Bro, your weight a drop and your A one C will start to correct I learned that because you know with all my other ship, like my my Rotator and all

that ship. And you know, the EPI Durrows actually fucked me up because it started eating on my carliage and all that ship. So when you when he did the m R I on it, all you've seen was white dots, whereas nothing is all funked up. So you're losing your momentum and all of this ship. But a lot of that has to do with age. Now. You know, I had my major physical at fifty uh fifty five. I got another year and a half for my sixties. You know what I'm saying, two years. So I man, I

just had to figure it, especially with him. I know I gotta be alive. I want to see him graduate. I want to see his first girlfriend. So I gotta change a lot of ship. And I take them feels every day. That diabetic medicine, I take it every day I take I was doing two shots, he took me off in one. Now I'm just doing a one pin once a day dinner, So I know I'm getting better.

Ain't kudos to you, bro, because I know you had to not only change what you were doing, but you had to change your mind, your mentality, and that's to do too. And that's the hardest part about it, because I'm gonna tell you the biggest thing I had to learn. I'm not gonna lie bro. I love taking down the boss plate. I love a good plate. Like you know, I give myself Thanksgiving to where I pretty much eat what I want to. But I've cut way back on

the red meat because I just don't have to. But I still allow myself that occasional cheak like last night, you know, cause I'm driving ship again. I crept off the Timing Burger because I wanted some chili cheese fries so bad dog the double chili Burger. The ship is good, is delicious, but it's bad for you. You can't eat that ship every dingy because I remember, man, when I was maybe dollar thirty, I ballooned up like three five dollars. Every night Friday. I would come on, I would take

down me some beer. I would have me at twelve pack in Henry wine. Are drink that motherfucker that I would go to the bugger fucking um Burger spot chili cheese fries, a big chili cheese fries. I wasn't fat because I was still lifting button. I was breathing hard all the time. We're using the stuff man, and I said, you know what, this is not gonna work. Dog, And I just gradually just started saying, you know what, I can have that maybe downalance, but you know what, maybe

I don't need a medium. Maybe I'll just get me a small fries with a cheese burger. Yeah. You know what I tell people. You know what I tell people still, because you know, I mean, I'm forty six, right and so um and I didn't pick up a weight. I mean I was always athletic, but I didn't pick up away till I was thirty. And and that was because I think I thought I was having to get sell block ready. But that's a that's a whole another story.

But I tell people, when you when you do the right thing, like ninety percent of the time, when you eat clean and you kind of exercise and you live a healthy lifestyle, then you can afford to indulge in that ship. You know, because I I pizza, I eat boyshit often, but I eat and I eat the right thing nine percent of the time. So when people see me eating hamburgers and fries, I eat McDonald's in and

out all of that ship. But guess what, you know, my lifestyle is in the gym, so I can eat whatever because I'm just gonna burn it, you know what I mean. So I think understanding your body and and your your you're eating habits, and just how your life is, like I say, health as wealth. Man, Just excuse me, you know? Uh? Like like James said, portion control too, man, a lot like you said that play. Our culture is

to eat. Like you know, I'm back in Kansas City right now, visiting for Thanksgiving, and the culture here is way different, my nigga. Like, I went to a restaurant earlier, right and I looked around the restaurant. Man of the restaurant was obese. You know what I'm saying, I'm the mother. I'm the only motherfucker in there eating grilled chicken. And we remember I'm from the Midwest too, so you know,

it's the same thing for me. When I went back through and I hold on and I kept wondering, I kept saying, like I'm sitting in a chair and I kept thinking, like them, I'm in this booth. Why is the fucking table so far from the back of the booth. It's because it gott to fit all these OBEs. Motherfucker's in there, you know what I mean. And I looked around, like, damn, that's crazy. I'm the only one in here eating grilled chicken.

Everybody else got these big gas place with gravy running down they fucking arms, and you know, and I know that's our culture, but you know, we gotta we gotta understand, I know, Hew, and listen for some of those that's listening to watching. I know. You know, sometimes especially when people are you know, kind of food challenged and on a budget, eating healthy can be expensive, you know what

I'm saying. So even if you can't afford to always go to Whole Foods or whatever whatever, you know, like James said, portion control for what you do have, you know, and just you know that ship with exercise. Man, I'm gonna tell you something. When I went back to Io, when I was just there like maybe three four months ago, one thing I realized that I missed, man, because I got aunties. They plant their own greens in their backyard,

They plant their own squashing and stuff like that. So I had some greens, string bean, starf and they just remember they tasted different, man, because that stuff comes from their yard, and I know they make food so out of reach for our communities, like the good stuff. The average person on a budget can't afford to go grocery shop in the whole food. They gotta go to food for less. And I noticed I don't like me. I don't even shop for food for less because if you

notice the quality, the food is so bad there. Even when you look at the ground beef and food for less, you let's say you buy a tin pound pack of ground beef. By the time you cook that motherfucker, there's so much oil and ship in there because it's just different. But when you go to an al per cents or Whole Foods or whatever, you fry the ground beef, you notice it's less fat. It's just like they give us the worst of the worst. Ship's think of the Black

and Latino communities. When you go to the store, you buying me, you buy some ground I bought some ground beef and food for less because it was the only thing open one time, trying to make some spaghetti. Man, I'm gonna tell you that ship was bad. I wanted to throw it away. I was like, it just smelt bad. I was like this is not good, man, And it's fatty as ship. You could see the fat like, yeah,

you're right, you're right. That's what I said. I want a five thing of ground beef dog when I swear that stuff is went from like this to like this, and it was just oil and the pin like a whole bout of oil there. And I was like, damn, it's just bad, bro. We have to really like and that sounds hard, bro. But a lot of that stuff is so out of access to us, man, Like I'm talking about even decent fruits and vegetables. That's why I tell people, you know what I missed, the basic stuff.

I've been brought to complaining man. Sometimes the house because we wasn't rich, but moms would make contenners sometimes and that after lasts for a few days, she would make a big pot of beans and some hot water bread or some or some corn bread with the butter milk in it. I'm gonna tell you, man, I told her that. I said, my mama missed that so bad. When I come on, I wants you to make a part of

beans and some corn bread, some buttermelk corn bread. Corn Bread is still good though I love corn bread because we ain't l a and start eating crossocks and ship though. But that's what I'm saying, bro. But you know what, no dog, the way we was raised, Bro, the way we was raised, Bro, I think it was just way more healthier. But this is what I want to leave my brothers out there with my sisters, my Latino brothers.

Go get checked out, man, know your status. Yeah, go with your girl and barely that real conversation and say, look, I love you. We're gonna go respect each other and go be checked out. And when you do get checked out and you find out just that you're cool, don't be out there. That's not a permission to get a pass and go split out. You feel what I mean, take care of yourself. And if you out there running around,

wrap a rubber around that motherfucker dog, protect yourself. Prevention where rubber because I'm gonna tell you right out I hear motherfucker's talk about the rubber pup. I'm gonna tell you this. Your stretch of rub arm big as a motherfucker Streux rubber rover. This that motherfucker want. So don't give me that bullshit. You ain't packing. On twelve fifteen, nicks thinking like you're thinking, nigger, that should have fixed your ass. I don't know they have pop with me.

Look you by the night story things. I'm buying them finger things that that you know. N I'm just a yeah, don't don't. Don't do that any funny, but don't y'all take care of yourself. And on that note, we you this motherfucker Gangster Chronicles mass a little well. That concludes

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