TGI 685 - Back to the Backlog

Welcome to the Gamers Inn. Come on in, pull up a chair next to the fire. It looks like you've had a long journey. I'm your host, Jocelyn, and joining me as always is my co-host Ryan. Hello, Ryan. Hello and welcome to April. Nothing happened today. Nothing. Yeah. Yeah, all our news this week is real, unfortunately. Like actually promise Pinky Swear because

Today we are recording on April first. Today is April Fool's Day. I freakin' hate this holiday, as I think most normal people do. Um, and uh the m ho the cringy crap that like comes out of game companies around this time like, oh, I saw a post from and like it was I think method. So it was like one of the uh it was like a guild, not a not actually Blizzard. But it was like basically like making fun of Blizzard for removing um

add-ons with this last expansion. And it was like Blizzard like writing like an apology uh post and saying that they were gonna come back for or they were gonna uh reinstate weak auras and blah blah blah whatever and I was like Oh my God, guys. Like uh first of all, everyone knows this is fake. And second of all, like it just is giving whiny bitch. Like just stop. Like, oh my God.

Like this isn't funny. So they need mods to win? Is that what they're saying? Like basically, yeah. Oh. That doesn't seem very like Try hard, you know? Right. Anyways, yeah, like I just oh yeah, I just I really, really hate this day. I just I don't know. I don't know who enjoys it or maybe it's just like the way the world is now, but I'm like, I have no patience. I have no time and I have no patience.

Look, not to get ol all old man Murph on you, but like it was it it used to be fun, right? It used to be fun. Back in the day. But like every once in a while there would be a good like post that would, you know. that would get me and give me give me a little bit of a laugh. But I don't know, man. I just haven't really seen much of anything other than like the things I have seen today. I'm like this

miss the mark so hard. Like Well, I know when I was a kid, there was a April Fool's uh entry in a game informer and it was Sonic and Tales and how to unlock them in Uh Smash Brothers melee, which is the first time. You just have to bring Sonic into everything, don't you? No, no, no. This is this is We weren't supposed to talk about it again for another like four months. You promised. It's not about the movie. It's it's not even really that

Critical of the story. Look, there were these characters that would normally not show up in a Nintendo game that you could unlock by doing some special stuff and there was this ad in a magazine and and we couldn't figure it out. Me and my brothers were trying to figure it out. And clearly we couldn't tell it was like

April Fool's joke. So we actually called the Nintendo hotline, which I don't know if it cost my parents money. I assume it did. Probably. And we talked to them and were like, Well, we have this magazine. It says if we do this, this and this, and then the the person on the line was like

I don't have anything in my database about like being able to unlock those characters in Smash Brothers melee on the GameCube. Um are you sure it's it's accurate information? And I'm like, well it must not be if If Nintendo doesn't know, so uh and that was that was uh and then we hung up and we're like, Well I guess it I oh wait, it's April Fool's. Yeah, okay, well, there we go. We got we got had and maybe cost our parents ten bucks by calling the the Nintendo hotline.

So yeah, maybe April Fools does suck. Life before Google. Yeah, you couldn't well, we didn't have internet. Maybe you could have Googled it at that time. Uh it would have been early days, for sure, maybe. I don't know. Either way. It was uh not my not our not our proudest moment. This holiday is dumb. Yeah, it is dumb. You're right. Yeah, so uh anyways, we do promise everything in this episode of The Gamers Inn, regardless of recording date, is actually Actually true.

We think. I mean, oh man, what if I haven't looked at the news that closely. I mean it's all real. Made its way through. For better or worse. No, I did not put anything in here uh from today. These are stories from previous to today. So excellent. Excellent. We're clear. Uh so before we get into the news, Ryan, what have you been up to?

Yeah, so I just wanted to circle back on Prince of Persia the Lost Crown, which we talked about last week a little bit. I did end up finishing uh the game, so got another one off uh the backlog. I I've I've been kind of like trying to do new game backlog game and and I I I feel like I'm um I've I I'm conflicted about the backlog, you know, like having this list of games that I bought or have on on my list to like get back to.

And it's just it does not feel the same as playing like a new game. You know? I don't know if it feels Look, I uh this is gonna sound mean. But it kind of feels like I'm making it homework by calling it like a backlog. I don't know if that makes sense. For me, it's like it's the community. It's like when I'm playing something, it's so nice to be playing at the same time as everybody else.

watching the achievements pop and be like, I'm ahead of this person. Oh no, I've fallen behind that person. And then like seeing all the posts like in Discord of everybody else, like when we do um the um like thread conversations. of what's going on in the game and then like, you know, seeing people making TikToks of fan content and like being caught up in the community, like the grassroots kind of hype is really what gets me excited about playing a game.

And so like I haven't had that since like Trying to think like maybe Hades 2 was the last one that I was like right there with. Um because yeah, I didn't really I think after Hades 2 I didn't really play too much else. Like I mean like At the same time as everybody else. Like there was no other really big launch that I participated in. I guess you could argue Midnight,'cause I did play um Midnight, but like

I'm playing midnight in my own little like bubble of joy. So like I've almost been because like the Warcraft community can be so weird. So I'm just avoiding it and and playing in my bubble and being happy. Yeah, we touched on that, the the sex dungeons, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I need time to build my sex dungeon. And I don't want anyone to see it till it's ready. So I've just been staying in my little happy bubble.

Yeah. Yeah, to each its own. Yeah. You gotta build that special room and and make sure that it's look, I'm not ready for my sex dungeon reveal party, okay? So just wait. Yeah. Um It's gonna be a big deal, okay? Invites are in the mail. Actually it's funny because I haven't actually gone into the housing part in a while. I've just been doing delves and I'm really, really enjoying them. So yeah. Um

I don't know. Like the I've just I've been enjoying my little happy Warcraft bubble and I like I get you with the backlog. Like sometimes it doesn't even have to be that the game is like too old that it starts to feel dated. It's just like You don't have that external hype to to kind of keep you going in something. And if it's already something that you either weren't excited enough about to pick it up and play it through like you were four times with Resident Evil.

Then like there's either that or it's gotten old. Like it's something that you picked up, you tried, you bounced off of, and you know, like now it's a few years old and you're trying to go back to it. And the experiences in the games, like they're not that dated that quickly, but They're just not the fresh new hotness anymore. And if they're in your backlog, they're probably in your backlog for a reason. So I get it.

And it's funny'cause we were just talking about um like what I should do, what I should play,'cause I was saying I was talking to Matt and now Ryan about like nothing coming out. in like March or April. really is speaking to me in s in terms of like stuff that I want to play. I know Saros is coming out at the end of April.

And a lot of people are super hyped. I'm super hyped to watch people play it, but I'm not super hyped to play it myself because I know I'm gonna be terrible at it and I'm just gonna rage quit. So yeah, like I'm excited for people who are excited about it, but it's definitely not my jam.

Um, and so I'm like, there's just really nothing coming out right now, or possibly even this year. There's like maybe two ish things that I'm excited about this year. And it feels like such a letdown after twenty twenty five. So

I don't know. I'm gonna play with Beavers for next week and then um tell you guys how that goes because Timberborn just got its uh 1.0 release that I didn't realize had happened. So I'm gonna go back to that because I was saying to Ryan, last time I played that game was 2021. So I was like day one early access playing Timberborn and haven't touched it since, so I'm sure it's probably

uh changed a lot. So I'll give that a try. But yeah, if you guys have any recommendations, um, outside of going to the backlog,'cause Subnautica two is like the only one that I'm super, super excited about this year. So yeah. Not even excited about Grand Theft Auto.

Well, it needs to come out first. It's been delayed how many times? Yeah. It's supposed to be holiday this year, isn't it? Have they delayed it again to twenty twenty seven? No, it was supposed to be May this year, then it was supposed to be last year. holiday, so I I think I think they'll hit the the holiday target this year. I think they're maybe. We'll see.

I I think you've got Fable this year as well. Like there's there are Well yeah, but I'm fighting with Xbox, so True, true. Well yeah, no, you're right. You're right. Um I I uh every year has their surprises and I think we're still we're still due up for some surprises. I mean, you got the Switch two now, so

I'm sure Nintendo will have something on the horizon for you. Yeah, they have Yoshi. Yoshi's coming out uh in May, I think. Yeah. So yeah, there's a few things. Honestly, I think it's probably gonna be super cool indies again because the the things that I have loved in the last couple of years have all been indies. It was Lorelei, it was blueprints.

It was um Hades 2 and Silksong. It was Exposition 33, like everything that I've liked hasn't been the offerings from the big studios. So yeah. I think it's uh what Probably the issue is is just discovery and that there's so many things coming out that I just I need like hat or the Discord or somebody to be like, hey, I just played this and Joss would love it. So maybe that's that's what I'm missing right now is uh that indie discovery. Yeah. Maybe it's Timberborn, who knows? Maybe.

I I I mean it does look interesting, so uh it might be worth uh jumping back in, especially considering it's been five years since you played it instead of four and a half. Which is wild. Yeah. Yeah, that is wild. So man Time flies when you're waiting for beavers to hit one point oh. So yeah we'll get we'll get there.

Uh, but no, I just I uh look, I will say bef before I mean, you know, I hope folks didn't think like oh Ryan hated Prince of Persia Lost Crown. I did really enjoy it. Like I I had a great time.

I just had to stop myself from trying to go the completionist route because like it's like I just wanted to I didn't want to rush through it to just like sort of check a box of like, yes, I did it, I completed it. I did I did want to just like enjoy it as I normally would, and especially after Resident Evil Requiem, which was kind of supported by the fact that I had um

you know, things I wanted to accomplish in it. I had conversations that I had here and with you, with John. Uh we did a special on Zamp with Lou and it and it kinda like It kinda just worked. It was a good month project. And I obviously didn't want Prince of Persia the Lost Crown to turn into the next uh, you know, month long project. I I did want a a a quicker experience.

And it was about twenty hours and I do love Metroidvania's. I think I do prefer the um the Metroid style, like where you're shooting and you're you're getting power-ups and stuff. Um Prince of Persia Lost Crown is more uh parry and dodge uh systems. where you're you're trying to deflect enemy uh attacks and you're doing like uh side scrolling action uh combos with your swords.

And I I really felt like eventually I hi I would hit a point where it's like, okay, I'm struggling with the combat. I'm not doing as well as I'd like against these bosses. Let's look at the accessibility options. um or the approachability options for combat and I kinda turned down the difficulty and there's a bunch of sliders, but I just kinda like let it I turned it down to like I think it was the the setting below normal. And uh it it was a lot more fun. I was kicking ass and taking names and

And uh I was actually able to hit the the Perry windows, which is always, you know, super satisfying. We did that with Peak too. Yeah. Our last run. Yeah, we turned that down to Tenderfoot, I think it's called, but like the yeah, the difficulty below normal. But then we made it to the top. And like you say, it was so satisfying. And even then it was still super challenging because

We had everybody die in every biome except for one person. And it was a different person every time that made it to the end of the biome. So yeah, like it was super, super fun. And uh yeah, like I mean You don't need to bash your head up against a wall if it's killing your enthusiasm for a game, right? Like we did what two runs in peak?

Before we turned down the the difficulty and we made it like almost to the end of the second biome, but those those freaking trees, man. Yeah. That haunted forest is no good. And then they launched an update. We can do a custom run now, which is nice. And I think that'll come in handy when when we want to do a custom run. Like if we're really struck Yeah. Like I think the way we play that that game peaks.

We have okay, we have a three hour window at best, and we might push it a little bit depending on whether we're close or not, like we did. For game night. Yeah. We went all the way to midnight for game night, which we haven't done probably since Extra Life. We're so close and We were so close.

I really feel if the options that are present now in the update that just launched were there, we would have been like, Screw this, let's do a custom run, remove this damn biome that's giving us trouble that we don't like. Yeah. There is something to be said about you know, giving it a shot at like the recommended difficulty/slash setup, and then being like, you know what, recognizing that

I I wanna find the fun. I'm I'm in there's something here I'm enjoying, but there's also something in the way that I'm not enjoying and just life is too short. I've got so many other things I wanna do. uh and I'm just gonna change this a little bit. And I think that's it's great. I've I've said this before with similar Metroidvania's, like when it gives me the ability to tailor the game to my sort of current

you know, once in a video game. Like you're not changing the genre. You're not saying, Well, it's a m I hate Metroidvania's, let's make this a a side scrolling, um, you know, dating sims like you're not doing that, you know.

That's impossible. That was an option. Turn off combat, turn on dating. Yeah, that puts a whole different spin on the game. Exactly. You know, just it it I think it's just I think more games need to sort of give you give uh the more people that can play a game, the better the game is going uh to be and and better off for for everyone because then you you get follow ups, you get support.

I mean the Lost Crown had those options, still got sort of abandoned by Ubisoft to And I think, you know, we talked about last week, they kinda kinda put the whole franchise on ice again. But I I did I did really enjoy it. I had a great time with it. Um I didn't like find everything like I normally would in a Metroidvania. I did do a little bit of like finding, but there's some puzzles in there.

that are very based on the momentum and the acrobatics of the character and, you know, one false move and you have to start your run over again. And I was like, you know what? If I try to do this, I'm gonna I'm gonna hate this game. So I'm just gonna not engage with everything. It's great that it's there. Like there's literally like this is the impossible challenge. Like I bet you can't solve it. And it's like, you're right.

See you next. I cannot. Yeah. Moving on. Great that it's there for people who want to engage with that stuff because again, like, you know, making a game sort of appeal to a broad audience. it it it does there there it has to be said, like you can put stuff in there that is just it's it's too difficult and it's there for the folks that want that difficult component to the combat or um the traversal mechanics or the puzzle solving. Uh

If so it's great that it's there, but it's not gonna be for for everyone. So I I beat the game, I enjoyed it. There was just something as I was going through it in comparison to my time with Resident Evil Requiem, like there is something to be said of like, and I'm gonna have to kind of figure it out is if I'm gonna do more backlog stuff, it's like, okay, how do I

How do I keep this fun? And I I know it's like we have this opportunity where we can talk about on the show and that involves the community a bit and a lot of the games that are in the backlog are games that we've talked about as a community before when they came out. I think a game that kind of popped up that was suggested to me is like

Maybe I should go back to Pokemon Scarlet, which got the update for the Switch two to make it playable. Is that the one that came out the most recently and had like a terrible launch and Well, it had a an amazing sales wise launch, but yeah, performance wise it was Performance, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone was'cause I remember a Pokemon game recently where everyone was talking about it and it wasn't one that I had played. Yeah, I think it was the twenty twenty three.

Maybe twenty four last one I played I think was Dine Dynamaxing or whatever. Yeah, Shield and Sword. Yeah. Was that the same one? Yeah. No. Well it's No Yeah. Shield and Sword was I think it was. Oh. I just remember making the poke making the Pokemons really big. And I didn't think that that was Sword and Shield, but maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. I do look.

We're not Pokemon experts. I used to be a Pokemon expert. Man, I was obsessed with Pokemon back in the day, but I am I am so behind. I think the last Pokemon game I played and was obsessed with Probably would have been Uh not even the three D S era. I fell off there too.

I wouldn't have to do that. Well my God, Dynamaxing was introduced in Pokemon Sword and Shield in twenty nineteen. Jesus Christ why how was that twenty nineteen? Oh my god. I'm surprised you remember Dynamaxing because to me like I Make Pokemon big. I I remember that, but the actual term, like kudos to you and that steel trap in your start to finish. Did you? Oh, I really like yeah, I really liked that game. Yeah, Sword and Shield, I enjoyed a lot. Well, maybe I

Timberborn. You should play two years ago apparently. Yeah, I guess yeah, I'll put that on the list. Maybe we can talk about that on not next week, the week after. Yeah. Do you have uh so I have Scarlet. What's the other one? Um Scarlet and I wanna say violet, but that's not right. It's not I can never remember the other one. Uh it doesn't matter. But yeah, it's it's on the list. It is just scarlet scarlet and violet. Oh weird. Okay. Well

There it was rattling around there somewhere. Which again from twenty twenty two. So yeah, maybe that's not the one that I'm thinking of. No, that's I think that was definitely the one that was really struggling. with the switch, but Uh yeah, no they i I think it was that one, but No it was it was

Z to A or A to Z or whatever. Oh, that one was recent. That one had a switch two version. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I um I I that one's a different style too. It's it's so there In the Switch era they kinda split and they had like the more traditional Pokemons, which is like Scarlet and Violet, and then they had the uh the Legends Pokemon, which is a little it's more real-time combat as opposed to turn-based. Um, still very much a Pokemon game, but it's just a different style and

I don't know. Um I I've heard I've heard good things about both, but I think ZA is technically considered like sort of a spin-off, even though it's made by The same. Developers. There are so many Pokemon fans in the Discord there will be they're gonna be so mad at us. Well, I don't know if they'll be mad. They might they might collectively just be like, Oh, it's okay guys.

uh we got this and they'll provide a list of everything. Yeah, yeah. It's all good. But I'm I'm it's on it's I'm thinking about it. It's definitely on the backlog, but I I do think like

approaching the backlog. I don't want to approach it as like It's like in order to you know to i i like a list and like scratch a game off as I finish it and I do I do understand like where you're coming from where you're like, well like it's on the list for a reason I feel like some of the stuff was on the list because like I bought it with the intention to play it at some point and then years pass and you're like, Where's the time gone?

Um Prince of Persia Lost Crown is one where I I had gotten it for Christmas. One of those classic put it on the Christmas list and then and then it's uh It's been up on the shelf. I I'm pretty sure this one's a recent one. I think I just got it for Christmas. So it's it has not been sitting. Well that's good. I know you've you've given me uh heck before s uh for that. So I yeah, it still blows my mind that you ask for things as gifts that you don't immediately blow.

I mean, sometimes you just you gotta get around to it. Oh my god. I know. I know. Uh actually m yeah, no, maybe this one is from uh not last Christmas, but the Christmas before. I think this Christmas I did take to heart what you said and only asked for one game and it was the Life of Strange game. And uh and I played that And you've you've played it now, so there you go. Yeah. So I'm I'm catching up. This is uh two Christmases ago if if I'm remembering correctly. Look

This one's so bad, and I'll tell this and then we can we can jump into the next thing, but uh this one's so bad that I I got it for Christmas. The DLC went on sale like a couple months later, so I bought it. And then Eight months later the DLC went on sale again. I thought, oh, I should buy that DLC. And I went and bought the season pass, whereas before I bought just like the piece of content that was uh the story stuff. So I bought the season pass, so effectively bought the DLC twice.

And then I had to like contact support and it's like I accidentally bought the DLC twice. I I forgot I bought it before. Which I guess is a possibility on Playstation. Uh you're you're able to do that. I didn't know. Steam just discounts your your bundle or whatever. Like Yeah, a hundred percent. But on PlayStation they're like, Wa ha ha, we got your money twice. So I I think I at least they could see that you had zero hours in the game, so it's not like you had used the

The software or whatever. No, yeah, they were um they were pretty good. They were like, th this idiot, let's just give him his money back. So anyways, it's done. I really enjoyed it. Uh it's a great Metroidvania. I was having a conversation with Crofton about it where he's like, Oh man, it's like one of my favorite Metroidvania. And and I was trying to remember, like, oh yeah, like

But is it as good as Dread? And and then we had the same conversation of like Dread came out in like twenty nineteen. This one came out in twenty twenty four. Like, yes, Dread's a great game, but like you're you're you're sort of like removing time between these two things. It's it's it's uh it's not a great thing when you get a great Metrovadia every five years. And I know there are plenty of Metrovania's that have come out since dread, but

Um I I would s I would put Lost Crown in sort of that caliber of of that genre. So if you really do love Metroidvania's and you haven't had a chance to play Prince of Persia The Lost Crown, I really do think it's worth checking out and it likely goes on sale. all the time so you can easily put it on your wish list and get back to it when you have a chance.

Well speaking of getting to things, uh, what's your host special gonna be for April? Oh well this is another one where I kinda took to heart what you'd said'cause you were you were saying I get all the easy themes. You do. So I we are gonna correct that. We're gonna find a way either this summer or you know, maybe when we hit the year mark to kind of like switch it up so Jocelyn gets all the easy theme months.

I am going to leave Easter eggs for Jocelyn to take care of like next time around, next next April. Uh I think I'm gonna do uh video game resurrections. The good, the bad, the ugly. We're gonna look at video game resurrections. I like that! That's super cool. That's a really good interpretation. I was like, is he gonna talk about all the bunnies in video games or something? No. So yeah, no, that's a great idea. I'm looking forward to that one. And if you guys would like to hear it.

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We did just have like we were talking about peak. We did just have our our makeup session, which was uh which was actually really, really, really fun. Like I say, we ended up going to midnight, which is crazy. That was You know, like the better part of three and a half hours for us on a on a work night. Oh no, wait, it was Friday.

Not a work night. But still on a on a night of a day that we worked. We have kids. We gotta be up in the morning. Yeah, yeah. Midnight was definitely a choice. But we made it all the way to the top. It was very exciting. But uh our next game night is gonna be our Nintendo night. And uh that's gonna be on April seventeenth. Uh so make sure that you tune into that because we're gonna be doing a lot of retro game stuff and it's gonna be really super cool. I'm excited for it.

Yeah, it's gonna be great and we're gonna figure out your Nintendo Switch online. It's it's all good. Yes. Yeah, I have to figure that out now because my Nintendo uh it's actually it's April first, so my Nintendo Switch Online should be cancelled now. So I should be able to apply my code and Go forth from there, but we'll see what happens. So yeah. Um I I'm really looking forward to it. I think it's gonna be a lot of fun.

Uh, but that brings us to the news this week. Speaking of Nintendo, uh, they are planning new Star Fox and new Zelda, or well, I guess a Zelda remake. So not like new new Zelda, but like A new old Zelda. That's a new Zelda. Uh but no Mario. No Mario for us. So I think like, uh man, I Obviously I have a Switch too now. I can I can play these games. I don't care about Star Fox. And I depending on what they remake.

Like if oh man, if they remake Majora's Mask, that is all I'm going to play. Like that is all I want. They're talking about Ocarina of Time. So I mean, like, you know, it could happen down the road. Yeah, yeah. I but I want I just want Majora's mask so bad. And I know it is the follow-up to Ocarina of Time, so it makes sense that they'd get to it eventually, but And I like Ocarina of Time. It's fine. I think where I struggle is I find it so hard to fathom what

an Ocarina of Time remake would look like. It's like saying they're gonna remake Super Mario Sixty Four. And I I just I worry that when you remake those playable N sixty four games that are still playable today'cause there's a lot of that era that's unplayable these days. Yeah. But a game that is still playable in its original format, my brain it's very hard to wrap around how that would like work. Do you just make it look like Breath of the Wild, but it's Ocarina of Time or uh

I I have to see it. I think like once I see it, I c I just can't see it. You know, I've seen some of the like mock-ups from The community and And I'm like, mm, no, I don't think Nintendo would do that. So I'm just like kind of curious to see what Nintendo thinks like a remake of an N64 game that is like literally rated the highest rated game on Metacritic. Like what does that look like?

Um it's just I it it's surprise it's no it's not surprising that they haven't done it yet because it seems like a really tough one to get right and and make people happy. So it's it is interesting that it's coming out um this year. This is a big anniversary for Zelda, so like they need something to kinda like tie to the celebration. The fact that they're making A new Star Fox. Look, Star Fox's is

uh is good. I feel like Nintendo s really wants Star Fox to be a thing and they've they've really struggled to kind of make something of it. Like it it was like sort of a a a fan favorite on the Super NES because it was new and different with, you know, polygonal graphics on like what was primarily like a two D system.

And then I think Star Fox sixty four had its fans as well, and it just was never able to sort of capture that same love uh and and the fact that The way they call it a classic style Star Fox game is obviously gonna herald back to that N sixty four era. I wonder if they'll release something that it seems like a really good Nintendo budget title, you know, like make a smaller experience.

I I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just I think you say poor Star Fox. Well, I mean when the last one you had was on Wii U, I mean Yeah. Well, Star Fox has had a really odd history over the years since its last big hit. Like it had I I really liked Star Fox Adventure, which was a Star Fox game made by one of Rare's last game games when they were working with Nintendo, and it was sort of a third-person action adventure. It was Zelda, but it was Star Fox. So I really liked that one. And

The funny one part about that is that it w when they say classic style Star Fox, that's kind of what they're referring to. They're kind of pushing away like all the spin-offs that Star Fox had that where they tried to make it work. And I remember that Star Fox Adventure had like

a few moments where you're where you're in the R wing and you're fighting, you know, doing that classic style combat. So It's more of an arcade game and I feel like you could make a smaller experience, you know, have the arcade style sort of story mode, but then maybe focus in on like the multiplayer and make it make it more of like a sort of ar arena battler and and have some fun there. But

I I again like I don't think you can make Star Fox a success with like a a a ninety dollar experience. I just don't I don't know how that would work and be successful. really does want to make Star Fox a thing to the point where they've included Star Fox in the Mario movie. So Which is hilarious. That's that's one of those little like I'm picturing like in the in the first movie when like

they go by and there's all those Yoshis in the background. Like Yoshi's not really kind of like a big player in the movie, if I remember the whole movie, but like just those little Easter eggs. That's kind of what I'm thinking. It's like they're in Super Mario Galaxy writes they're gonna be out in space, so like a recognizable ship will fly by or something and

like little like wink from Star Fox as he flies away. I don't know, but Well, he's got a voice actor. Oh, he is a voice actor. Oh, interesting. Yeah, Glenn Powell is uh is is voicing him, so Um, which I I like Glenn Powell. I I I know he gets a lot of hate for being and everything, but I think he'll make a fine Star Fox. Even if he is just look, he uh if he doesn't say do a barrel roll. then I'm walking out of the theater. So

Uh actually no movies are too expensive. I'm not gonna do that. Given given the amount of Easter eggs in the first one, I am sure that that will happen. I I really hope so. I hadn't thought about it until just now and now I feel very strange. strongly about it. And this isn't like, you know, spoilers, I know the movie did technically come out today and and and we'll talk

Uh we'll p likely talk a little bit about it next week'cause I'm gonna go see it this weekend. But the interesting part about this and and the news previous is like I wonder if they're Nintendo is uh trying to'cause a lot of people saw this as like, oh they're they're setting up a Smash Brothers movie. And in my mind is like, no, I think they're just trying to make Star Fox part of the Barrio universe so he could be successful, maybe.

Like I don't know. It could fit, I think. Like you could you could make it work, but I don't know. It just seems uh it seems far fetched, but If they wanna make Star Fox successful, maybe this is how you do it. You just make'em part of the mushroom kingdom. Yeah, maybe just like have people go, Wait, who is that? and then be like, We have a Star Fox game. Yeah. I know who that is. I'm gonna get that game. Yeah, maybe that's what they're doing. Maybe, yeah.

Who knows? Um Nintendo has also clarified that the cost of physical games is not going up. Um, but they are changing the price or I guess the the price of physical and digital are gonna be different, right? So they're saying they're not charging more for physical, they're charging

Less for digital? Yeah. Yeah. Look, I think the The confusion uh and and the apprehension a lot of folks have, myself included, is that it is very hard to fathom anything being cheaper, uh, because everything just keeps going up in price. Yeah. And Nintendo swears this is not a trick. Look, this is not like positive for everyone because we do have a lot of fans of physical media and that costing more.

Stings for those folks who who would prefer to have a physical boxed copy. Uh but Where ever since digital started up, it was like, well, digital should cost less because there's no physical thing being made. Like they're pocketing the extra money. Why can't I do that? And essentially this is Nintendo saying, hey, we've heard you and we're going to do this.

But I think what they probably should have done is announced the physical cost first. And that's the it's it's just it's an expectation thing, right? It's a marketing thing. If they had come out and said Yoshi's gonna be 70 bucks and then came out like a couple of weeks later and were like, Hey, unless you want it digitally, then it's 60. Then everyone would have been like, oh, wow. Okay. So digital is getting a ten percent or sorry, a ten dollar discount because

It's digital, not physical. That makes sense. But because they announced the cost of Yoshi at 60 and then later came out and said, Oh, but the cost of the physical Yoshi is 70. the expectation was set that the game was worth sixty dollars, right? So now it's like, oh man, now it's more expensive instead of, oh, digital is cheaper. It's just like it's really bad marketing is all it is.

Yeah. Or it's a a decision that they hadn't made at the time and and sort of figure uh you know, I'm not saying it's any better, but it really does seem like there's a disconnect here and I we talked about this a lot in Discord and I where I think it lands now is like I don't think Yoshi is The one to watch. Like I agree with you. The way they announced it was weird because when they said, Oh, it's sixty dollars to me that was like, Oh, it's sixty dollars digital and physical.

This feels this feels like a price increase for Yoshi i i if you're buying it. the physical copy, the real test will be like the caliber of games that we know will cost either ninety nine or a hundred and nine here in Canada. And like the Mario Kart Worlds and the Metroid Primes. Like for example, this Zelda remake, you know, if that launches at ninety-nine uh physical eighty four uh or eighty five um

uh uh digitally, then we then you're gonna see like, oh, okay, that is a discount. But like I really do think that we have to wait until after Yoshi for the um Traditional full price triple A games from Nintendo where it's like, okay, like Fire Emblem 3, uh uh I don't know Fortune's Weave, which is the next Fire Emblem game.

That one would traditionally have been like a hundred dollar Canadian game, like a full price uh Nintendo title, not a premium quadruple A or whatever Nintendo's calling, like the Mario Kart Worlds of the world, but A hundred dollar game. And if that is sold for eighty five dollars digital, then it's like, okay, we have our answer. This is how Nintendo's approaching this.

going forward, but until we see that, uh this kind of i it's like, okay, like it's it's interesting. Is this a gimmick just for Yoshi? They say it's what's what's good what it's gonna be going forward. Do we really feel like physical games will go down in price? What this could happen is like now every physical game is the hundred and ten dollar price and the digital is like Discounted the old yeah, the old normal price. Yeah. Like I just

don't believe that this is good news. You know? I'm I'm really struggling with you're right. Until we get like a mainline Nintendo game, it's hard to Yeah. Hard to tell hard to tell which way this the wind is actually blowing. Because Yoshi's not like a full price title. Exactly. I will not be surprised if we get to the point where like they announced the pricing for Fire Emblem or or this new Zelda remake.

Or even Star Fox. Like I could see Star Fox being in the same sort of price range or price treatment as this Yoshi title, but like looking at like the Mario's, the Zeldas, the the fire emblems. I think that's gonna be the true test and and then we'll see like what this really means. But I

I don't fully believe that this there's gotta there's gotta be a catch. There always is with Nintendo. Like they they are charging the most for their titles right now. Like not even playst Playstation games don't go for uh a hundred bucks. They're still ninety to ninety-five dollars Canadian um triple A experiences. So Switch two games are still

It's weird to say, but they are more exp they are the most expensive titles out there. Like some Switch two games are a hundred and fifteen dollars. It's crazy. Yeah. And I'm not buying a hundred fifteen dollar game. Pre tax. It's just not happening. You know, I wait for a sale. Sorry, Nintendo.

Nintendo doesn't do sales. Well, they do sales to bring them down to regular price, ninety dollars. Yeah. Oh god. Like I saw the it was the Kirby game. Um and and to To kinda like be fair, I guess it's it's a Switch game that has a ha has a Switch to patch applied to it plus additional content they've developed. So when Nintendo's mines like that makes sense, we can charge extra because it technically has DLC included and its regular priced a hundred and

I think it might even be 120, but I've seen it go on sale down to 85. To me, 85 is like that's a regular price of a video game. So it's really like, is it a sale? Like in your brain it's not really, but like I guess, you know, technically it is. It's it's it really sucks. Like and I think that's where when people ask like, Oh, why do we love Steam so much? It's like because

Things seem to be reasonably priced there. Like there's no shenanigans going on with with uh with with AAA experiences on Steam. I'm sure there are some examples people can point to, but I'm sure, but l it always seems like you know when the sales are coming, you can make informed decisions. You know, things seem to go up for sale quite often, even with like the like you say, the triple A experiences, you're still often seeing

you know, five, ten, fifteen off. Like they, you know, they go on sale for ten or fifteen percent off often. So like it just feels better versus some of the other platforms like Nintendo that don't go on sale. Uh, but we have more pricing things to talk about too. We're not getting away from away from it this week, uh, because there are price changes for the PS5, the PS5 Pro, and the uh PlayStation Portal Remote Player. So that's yeah, like it just everything is going up.

Um so the PS5 with the disk drive is gonna be Uh, and I'm gonna give Canadian pricing first. Um, maybe I should do American pricing, but whatever. In Canada it's gonna be$820. The PS5 digital version, so that's the one without the disk drive, is$750. And then the PS five pro Is eleven hundred dollars. We have we have broken the thousand dollar console. Yeah. Oh yeah, and that PlayStation portal thing is is three hundred and twenty. Yeah, that that portal thing.

Yeah. Does anyone have it? Does it has anyone played it? Like I I know nothing or not This PlayStation Portal thing. Whirlwind has one and he he really enjoys it. Oh really? Oh. I remember like the PSP when the PSP was actually a PSP. Yeah. This one is not like a so the portal is like a streaming device. So you can either stream from your console or you can stream from the cloud. Yeah, there's no like internal memory or or CPU.

So it is essentially a screen with a uh a badass network. Controller built in. Yeah. Yeah. And a in a controller. So uh these um obviously these price increases are like related to like oh the the world market or whatever and the global economy situation, as they state and Uh it's it we've said this before. Um the cheapest time to buy a console is before the the price increase hits, so it's like at launch.

Um when this news came out, uh it they gave maybe a week heads up. So if you were able to f if you wanted one of these and you were able to find it in stock, you could get it for the old price. If you're listening to this now and this is news to you. Sorry, they're they're more expensive now. This isn't this. Yeah, starting April that's right. It's starting April second, so starting tomorrow and there's no way Ryan's gonna beat the

Yeah. Sorry folks. I mean this was a pretty big news, so I think folks who needed to see it saw it. But it's uh it is really It it is it's sad that uh these components shortages and everything are uh and tariffs are causing these these price increases. And this is price increases for everyone. This isn't just a specific region, this is across the world.

Um they announced new pricing not only in Canada and the US, but the UK, Europe as a whole, Japan, um, and and what those prices would would look like across the board. So Uh I do I think where I really struggle here and where I'm glad Valve has decided to hold off on announcing pricing because there's there's obviously fluctuation happening. Um I'm not saying prices are gonna go down just because

AI is starting to recede a little bit. We saw some some RAM prices coming down. But Do we really feel like Sony is gonna decrease the prices when things stabilize? Like I No. I don't think so. No. Once they once they go up, they're up. Yeah. And they'll just say, Oh, well, it's going up because, you know, the parts that we bought when it was super expensive are the parts that are in those Playstation fives and pros. So

You know, because we built them when it was expensive, you have to pay the expensive price. And then the parts that we buy when the part prices go down, well, you know, shrug. Next question, basically. Yeah, exactly. Who wants to talk about PlayStation Six? Yeah. Oh god, I don't wanna That thing's gonna be man, if we thought this is that look, these prices

Whatever's coming next is gonna be more expensive. And I think these prices are already like crazy. The uh the PS5 Pro Cracking a thousand bucks is just uh I mean, I think that signals to us that like our next play state like the PlayStation Six is probably gonna be in the twelve to thirteen hundred dollar range. Yeah, I I I struggle with those price points. I I really do feel like

Look, if you want a Nintendo Switch two, like now's the best time to buy it. Nintendo's gonna wait as long as they can before they're gonna be a little bit more. I know, you talked you talked me into that. I know. I think it's a smart decision. Like if you're gonna play a Nintendo Switch Two game between now

And the death of the Switch 2, you should probably buy one in the next couple months. I think Nintendo's gonna hold off as long as they can. But from what we've seen, like Xbox has done it twice. This is Sony's second time increasing their prices. Like clearly there's There's a need for them to do it. I guess, but I just I struggle with do like how do prices come down? Like do they come down? And I I really don't think they do.

I don't I don't think Sony is or Xbox are known for sort of decreasing prices when when when things uh are better. Uh I I can see Valve doing that for sure, like, you know, uh adjusting their prices, but Yeah, I it it's really unfortunate because, you know, I saw a graphic the other day where it was uh the listing like all Sony platforms like PS two through PS five

And then the price at launch and then the price six years after launch. And of course all of them had gone down since launch, but the PS five has gone up. Like it's literally gone up like two hundred bucks. uh as of April second, which is are more than two hundred dollars, like three hundred dollars I guess now in in Canadian prices. But it's kinda wild. It is very wild. And I know video cards are expensive, like saying, Oh, I'll just build a PC, like that's no cheaper.

I'm sure you could build Like a like a a a a lower performing PC for for cheaper, but that doesn't seem to be the trend when people build a PC. They're and if you're buying a pre built, it's it you're looking at a thousand dollars plus to get the performance of a PS five. So like there are less expensive ways to, you know, keep up with, you know, video games and playing them, but it's a pretty It's a pretty expensive entry level, you know, like Yeah.

The console used to be like, Oh, I'll just buy a console, you know? I'll invest in the case. Well yeah, instead because it was, you know, multiple times more to build a a PC and to be a PC gamer, like consoles their market was supposed to be affordability, right? Like here's a box you don't have to worry about. It's from a proprietary company. So they'll worry about all your software and all your compatibility and you play the games that go on that console. Like,

Yes, you're restricted because you only get the offerings available on the console, but at the same time, you know, we're twenty five percent the price of a of a gaming PC, right? Like here, for a few hundred dollars, you can enter the gaming sphere. And it just is not that anymore. Like they're aiming for like higher and higher benchmarks and it's like. We're getting to the point where, in my opinion, it's like, but why? Like games uh like maybe this is a little like

You're in your forties now, shaking your fist, get off my lawn, but like uh games are fine. Like, I don't need More particles or more ray tracing light fanciness or AI or anything else. Like I don't want crazy processing power. The the level of power we have achieved at this point. feels fine to me. Yeah. So I don't know. Um seems like they're charging a whole lot for for not as big of a jump necessarily or like a not a necessary jump.

Well yeah, I I I remember the PS four era when the pro was announced, like there was there was a reason to upgrade. Like you had base uh you had uh first party games. that weren't performing on the base PS4 and and a PS4 Pro was almost required for some of the titles being released in the later part of that generation. But you're just not seeing it. The PS five Pro has been out for I think a few years now and it is it is very clearly like

It it takes the pro moniker very seriously and that like I think that console is for enthusiasts that want the best version of the game they're playing. And I think most of the time the best version is is is not necessarily like a perceivable difference for a lot of folks. Like I personally don't see that. I'm sure somebody can tell like the the difference in the graphics and the, you know, responsiveness of the system and what but for me, I don't notice like I am not a

Gamer kind of thing, right? Like My reaction time is not gonna benefit from a faster processor in my console. My reaction time is shit. So, like that's on me. And I'm gonna play the same on a PS5 as I am on a PS5 Pro. Because it's on me, not the system's processing power. And I haven't noticed any'cause I played a couple of games. I think well, the last one I guess was probably about a year ago that I played on Playstation because I played um

Crap. Oh, I'm totally blanking. It was the one that came out that you liked that nobody else liked. Not that nobody else liked, but it oh it was bioware. Oh, Dragon Age. Dragon Age. I was like, Dragon Flight? No. Dragon what? Anyways, yeah, that I played on PlayStation. And it was fine. It played fine. I loved it. It was great.

Like I I don't know. Um I will not be, especially for this level of a price tag, like if we're literally talking about twelve, thirteen hundred dollars Canadian for the PS six, like probably not gonna get one. Yeah. Maybe talk to me when you're actually working on Horizon three. Like because that is my one of my favorite franchises of all time. seeing the third installation of that series and the finale and everything else like might be worth it. But even then, like I'm really struggling to even

find that justification, right? Like I'm like, yeah, but they'll probably put Horizon out on the PS5 too, and I can just play it there. Yeah. Cause then you're paying like Basically the better part of fifteen hundred dollars after you think about you have to buy the actual game. on top of the$1,300 console, on top of taxes, like you're paying$1,500 to play one thing. Like I even I can't justify that for the horizon. Like it's getting out of hand.

I think they've hit the they've hit the cap, I think. Yeah. I mean, you're starting to price out a lot of folks who Yeah, you know, e even if you think of it on the enthusiast level, you're pricing out folks that maybe would have normally bought multiple consoles, you know, and you've invested in a Switch two.

You know there are going to be switch to Nintendo titles that are exclusive and you wanna you want like that's a clear jump from the original Switch. It's backward backwards compatible. It's a great investment. But like I think we saw this generation from the PS4 to the PS5. They were releasing titles on, you know, cross-generation. Uh and

And they were playable. And I I really do think that you're gonna see similar approaches with the PS five to the PS six and I think you are gonna have experiences that are equivalent or you know uh the the perceivable difference would be for most people. Yeah. Exactly. So and then you you, you know, line that up, like these new prices. I remember when the switch two uh was announced and the price and it's like, man, that's almost as expensive as the PS five and like

Well, now the PS five is then hold my beer. Two hundred dollars more expensive than the Switch two. I wonder how much of it was Sony being like Well, we can't be the same price as Nintendo clutches pearls. Well We are a premium experience. We need to be priced as such. I don't know. I y you'd think that they'd the they would want the opposite. They would wanna be like, look, like we have'cause the PS five is technically, from a horsepower perspective, more powerful than the switch two.

Um, but you'd think that they'd be like, Oh, ours ours is more powerful and cost l cost less or equivalent. And I think that was the argument being made when the switch two price came. It's like, Oh my gosh, it's so close to a PS five, like That seems expensive and now it's uh now it's uh once again priced on the lower lower end and a g and of course like when the PS six gets announced, it's it isn't gonna be nowhere near six hundred and thirty dollars Canadian. So

I mean I was looking at'cause I'm right now going through like what do I do with these, you know, Windows ten locked PCs that I use for game night and for, you know, Steam gaming and we know the price of the Steam Machine were all worried it's gonna be very expensive, but I've looked at the price of just a video card, let alone like a whole new computer. And I still think the Steam Machine will be cheaper than that route.

Uh although I am I am going and I will document this on the show, but I am I've got plans to sort of salvage the hardware and at least try to uh keep it moving forward, not necessarily with Windows eleven, but looking at some Linux options. So I will keep everybody posted on that. We've talked about it a bit in the Discord. We have some really tech savvy smart folks in our Discord. So I am sure that if anyone can help you build a Linux

system, it's gonna be our Discord. Oh yeah, yeah. They're uh I'm in good hands and uh I think it'll be it'll be a fun experience and I mean it's not a I think it's what a lot of folks are gonna be looking at as they look at their hardware and not just from a PC perspective but a console perspective as well. It's like, okay, how do I

How do I continue to enjoy this hobby without feeling the need to overspend on hardware that I might not need right now? Like look, like will Jocelyn and Ryan have a PS6 at some point? Yes. I think that's a safe bet. But like Do we wait a few weeks? We're gonna have to g we're gonna have to go have Z's, I think. Just like Pass it back and forth. We'll do shared custody of the PS six is like every other week. Every other weekend, yeah. I mean it's it's not a bad idea. I

I I think it's so far like you know, it is far enough away where I think Sony and we've seen this in the news, I think Sony I don't think Xbox cares. I think they are literally trying to kill their kill the Xbox and they will release it and be like, It costs two thousand dollars. Have fun. Oh, no one bought it. Oh was well. Back to office. You know, I I really think that's what's gonna happen with Xbox. They are torpedoing themselves uh on purpose.

But I think Sony is looking at this situation like, okay, like we have to increase the price of the PS five, but we don't have to release the PS six in this market. We can we can wait. Um I I really do think that's what's what's gonna happen. The PS six will wait until like things stabilize, which means more games running on hardware that we currently own and maybe means like a more stabilized price for

for the future of uh future generation of hardware. So we'll see. That's what I'm thinking is gonna happen. Yeah, we shall see. Uh, and then finally tonight we have uh there was an Xbox partner preview event. Um, and I mean, again, like I don't want to rehash everything that we talked about off the top of the show. There's not a whole lot in here that I'm like, woohoo. But uh was there s was there anything that really caught your attention in this in this preview?

I also did not woohoo for for much. I I went through it and I was like, uh yeah, I did not watch it live. But the thing that caught my eye was this uh the expanse of Cyrus. Reborn, which very much looks like um what we should have gotten by now in terms of like a a mass effect sort of next generation experience. So Uh it looks really good. It's out in twenty twenty-seven. I don't know a lot about the Expanse. It's not a franchise I'm familiar with. I know there's

books. It's a really good TV show. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I have heard the one yeah, if it's the one I'm thinking of, um We and I say we very loosely because um Matt mostly watched it. Because again, I'm not a huge sci fi person. Um, but when we first had Live, then He was that was like he was on he was on leave, parental leave and like watching it, but we were kind of like

I would sleep and he would be awake and then we'd swap, sort of thing. So like he was watching it, so I'd catch an episode here here and there when we were awake at the the same time. And the episodes that I the episodes that I caught, like I it was usually like I'd watch one and then I'd miss like four or five and then I'd watch another one. And uh I mean they're very well written. I liked the story. I was

you know, mostly far behind often. Like, what's going on here? It's like, just go watch it, Jocelyn. Come on. I'm not gonna recap the past four episodes. But uh anyways, it is it's a good series if you're if you're a fan of sci fi, I do I recommend you checking it out because it's it's very well written and it has a lot of actors um that you'll recognize from other places. So

Yeah, it's worth seeing and this and the game looks good. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's Thomas Jane is in the show or was in the early seasons. He was like the Punisher a while ago. Um Anyways, yeah, though the game the game does look really good. I I think the so the game's aiming for twenty twenty seven. It was supposed to launch this year, but it's now gonna be spring twenty twenty seven.

There was and this could be chalked up to just the fact that the game isn't done yet, so I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt. The the gunplay looked uh like the combat looked good. There was some like some of the animations looked a little like stilted, but that's Of course, something that that will often get polished as as the game progresses, but there's just something about it that looked a little like Robotic, even though the characters aren't robots.

So um we'll see. But uh the gameplay looked good. I think I think the the graphics look fantastic. Like all the animations for the the faces, like was like, Oh my gosh, like that that looked amazing. So I'm excited about this one. Check it out. Uh and uh yeah, so the expanse of Cyrus Reborn. I'm uh I guess there's gonna be a beta In April. So we'll be seeing like more gameplay from from sort of that. Uh I think it's a closed beta, but I'm sure we'll get some.

Some videos and some impressions and stuff, so I'm looking forward to seeing more there. This this two minute trailer was just sort of a taste, so that's that's what I pulled from from the Everything Xbox. Yeah, for me, I mean there's there's another like um cozy Stardew Valley looking thing, Grave Seasons. So um I might check that out. It's another like just narrative based. farm sim so

I might go I might check that one out again, uh like if it's available elsewhere other than Xbox. It's on Steam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So uh the grave seasons I thought looked pretty cool. Um, but other than that, yeah, like Like I said earlier, I'm really struggling to to find stuff that looks exciting. Um and then some of it is stuff that like dispatches coming to Xbox. Um

Bluey is getting a game and so we'll definitely be picking that up because Liv loves Bluey. So we'll be doing that, taking pictures and snapping things or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's a i I mean, it was uh It was I think it was a partner

Yeah, partner preview. It was yeah, it's a partner preview. Yeah. This is all their third party stuff. Yeah. Yeah. So it's not like uh it's not like, oh, this is they did announce some their they confirmed their sort of ghost of E3 presence with their sort of keynote plus the game they usually focus on after, which will be Gears of War E Day, so

Mm. That's interesting because um we haven't seen a lot. We saw like a trailer of that like a a few years ago and it hasn't been seen since. So the fact that they're focusing on it usually means it's a game that will release within the calendar year. So Yeah. Uh I'm surprised they're not doing fable. That's that was actually

That was my thought too. Yeah. Is I was like, wait, why are you focusing on something that isn't Fable? Is Fable not coming out this year anymore? Like Yeah. Yeah. Big question mark, red flags there for me, but I mean, even though I'm fighting with Microsoft and, you know, probably won't I don't know, we'll have to figure Fable out, but um, yeah, like I still expected it to come out in twenty twenty six, so yeah. I feel like it is maybe that's changing. I don't know. Maybe.

I'm I'm also struggling with the Xbox stuff because I I do have like a couple of codes for for Game Pass and I'm like, oh you know I should resub and and I think it goes back to the top of the show where we're talking about like homework. And and backlogs and stuff. I also feel like Game Pass has kind of turned into that as well, where I'm like kind of dreading subscribing to it when I don't have like a clear game that I want to play, like a fable or like a like a Um like a recently released

experience that I want to enjoy. So like if I'm just subbing for like, oh like a Netflix, like jumping in and being like, okay, what do I play? Oh God. Choice. Uh mmm. I'm jumping out. So I've I've been holding off. It's this is the longest I I've been away from Game Pass and I I don't miss it. So Um

Yeah, I don't know. It's it's weird. It's weird how things have shifted. I remember when the Xbox Series X and S were announced and were coming out, like a lot of people were buying that hardware specifically because of Game Pass. And now it's like completely flipped. And I know it's because of the price increases and just how Microsoft has treated the industry in the last five years, but It's kinda wild how things can change so quickly. So

Fable reminded me that Masters of Albion is coming out uh in a couple of weeks. So Oh. Yeah. Well, maybe he'll make a great game. You never know. Yeah. Could be good. I'm I'm I'm high hopes, fingers crossed. But Well it's been a while since he's had a hit, so I know. I'm gonna try it. I'm gonna I'm gonna try it and then I'll tell you guys about it. But uh yeah, I think that's that's pretty much it for us tonight.

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