USC Golf Coach Justin Silverstein

and Justin's been with the program. He started with the program as a women's associates coach and has moved over to the men's side this year.

I ended up having five wrist surgeries when I was at Universe Arizona, which was good and bad. Kind of let me see a whole different side of golf. Where about my junior year, my redshirt junior year, I was no longer cleared to play golf because of an injury I had, so I kind of make a decision of what I want to do with my life, whether it's hit the books a little harder or maybe try to

do something else in golf. And luckily I had a great college coach, Rick Larrose, who was at Universe Arizona for over thirty years, and a really good assistant coach in John Knauer who was there for ten and I really admired the work they did and kind of the difference they made in our lives. So at that point I kind of decided that I wanted to turn my attention to getting into college coaching and kind of learned

the business and I tried my hand at that. So I helped out with the team while I was still in school, went to practice every day, traveled to tournaments, kind of shadowed coach Larrose, and he was great and

let me do that. And that turned into a volunteer assistant job with the men's golf team at Arizona the year after I graduated, and then just by sheer luck, the women's assistant job opened up that next year, so as a twenty three year old, I kind of fell into the women's assistant coaching job at Arizona, which had just come off a PAC ten championship and was a top five program, and that kind of got me going.

And it was quite an eye opening experience being a twenty three year old coaching women's college golf and coaching kids that were about the same age I was, So I had to learn pretty quick on that job.

eighteen to twenty two year olds. It's really good stuff. So can you play.

women's golf team. We just come off a national championship and our athletics director Pat Hayden surprised us and took us down to Augusta for three days. So I ramped up all winter, practiced every day, taking a bunch of pain medication, fighting through it. Figured getting to walk the fairways of the gust it was probably worth it, and went down there and played in thirty six a day in about thirty two degree weather and it was maybe

the three greatest days of my life. So since then, my clubs are still in the travel case in a closet in my house, and I have not been on a golf course to play since.

worth it. So I let Coach Dembury deal with all the playing and kind of beating our guys into the ground when he has to.

own theories on how things should be done. And not only do they have their theories, whether it swing theories or just how to play golf, their instructor has one, and their parents have one, and you know they're sports

psychologists that they have has one. So when I got to know Chris Dambury, who's our men's that coach really well, when I came over to USC five years ago to work on the women's side, he had this whole system of how to practice that he developed, and it's about and it's become now eleven tests that we do every Tuesday and Thursday when we practice on campus, and these tests are to find out where your strengths and weaknesses

are in your game. And what the tests do is they protect the players from us as coaches, the players from themselves, and the players from their instructors. Because what we found out after dealing with hundreds of really good college golfers is a lot of them don't know where they need work to get to the next level, and they kind of just go off of opinion and how they feel, and that's a really dangerous way to go

about it. And we've been lucky enough to have some advanced analytics coming to golf lately, which I'm sure you've you know all about, you know, with Mark Brody's book and Strokes Gain, and we've really dove into Strokes Gain and kind of now it's we do we take a different approach with every player. Some players need more help, more hands on help, some players need more course management stuff, and some players just need to be pointed in the

right direction as to what to approve. And they're pretty bright and they work with really good instructors and they can figure out a way to improve it. So I would tell you it's a lot more hands off than I originally thought it was. But we are constantly evaluating and re evaluating ranking their games based against each other to find out where everybody needs to improve.

Samery's been doing it with our men's team. So we've been keeping just a constant log of that for our players, and our incoming recruits are sending us data because they're kind of get diving into it, and we've really found that that's the one measurement in the strokeskin capacity to see if stroke skin driving, strokeskin approach, strokeskin short game,

and strokes skin putting. We figured out that if we can get the putting number, we can kind of we can pretty much figure out how you played that day. You know, if you shot seventy two, shot even par and you gained two and a half, well, you hit it like a dog. I mean, it's pretty obvious that you just didn't hit it very well. Well. If you lost you know, three and shot even par, you know,

we can then figure out how you hit it. So that was the big metric that we started collecting where we really thought we had an advantage because we could then kind of cipher what was going on with the rest of your game. So we're starting to dabble in strokes gain driving. That's another one that's becoming easier to collect, as long as you have the whole distance in your second shot distance and where you hit it from. It's been a little more difficult than we thought to collect,

and we've got a couple guys doing it. We're really trying to We're gonna try to ramp that up in

the spring. I know, there's a couple big time programs that are doing it full time, so we've got a little bit of catching up to do, but we feel like we're at the leading edge of our strokes gain putting data, and we've got some tests in our practice that can coincide with that data that have hopefully given us a way to improve our players putting, because what we've seen from the data we've collected is our kids

are not quite tour average putters. We've got a couple of players that are right on the edge, but right now we have no positive strokes gain putters on our roster. Sean Crocker was for most of the season, but we're hoving right around zero and losing strokes. So that's really a place where the tour players have a big advantage over really good college players.

was otherworldly how difficult those greens were. But all of our guys I feel pretty confident with. And if you give me any of our guys with a ten footer win national championship, I'd be really happy because that means we've got a pretty good chance to win the national championship. But right now I'm probably gonna have to go with

Andrew Levitt. And you can see from our match play lineups in the past couple of tournaments, he's been our anchor, and that's as he's Uh, he's one of, if not our best putter.

to improve on. You know, some highlights from the season, and you know, I don't think anybody, based off of the courses that you guys have to play this year, would you know, wouldn't want to be a college golfer.

was a really really cool golf course. I think every hole we stepped out in the practice on, Coach Denby's like, wow, this whole, this one are cool, slow as I've ever seen. So if you get a chance to go up there and play that track, I definitely would recommend it. But as far as the season goes, we got to a really slow start. No sugar coating it. Finishing eighth at the align I Invite and then six at the the Nike NCI event was a little rough. It's interesting our

scheduling worked out. I don't know most people probably don't know this, but the NCAA limits how many practice days were allowed in our playing season, and because Justin and Rico played in the All American, it extended our playing

season about another week into the into the fall. Because it just ended the other day so we weren't really able to practice as a team and probably started I think seven or eight days before our first event, so we had to jump right into qualifying with no practice time.

So it was a really interesting deal. We could do some individual stuff with our guys for two hours a week, but we hadn't had a full week of practice before our first event, so I think that might have played a little part, and our guys maybe being a little rusty, not quite as sharp as they normally are. And also we just went to a golf course where we got a lot of wind and it was really hard and just didn't play great. And then coming off that go go ahead.

first tournament out. It really affected a lot of our guys, especially a guy like Chang Jin who was playing in his first collegian event, so he had some nerves, and Rico and Sean I think struggled a little bit with the wind. All those show ended up finishing seventh. He put it great that week, so that really helped him. But we thought we'd rebound, you know, really well at Colonial, that to a golf course that stresses good driving. But we got there and it was windy again, the greens

were soft, and kind of had an interesting deal. We didn't have two of our top six players at that event. Cheng Jin was where was Ching he was at the World or the Asian Amateur who was defending his Asian amer title in Korea that week, so we didn't have him, And then we didn't have Jonah Tascher in our lineup, who was a semi finals at the USAM this past summer.

So we had just you know, Daniel Choa started for US and he's done some good things for US in the past, and we just really didn't play well that week either. So after that event, we kind of came back home and coach Amory and I took a couple of days and kind of tried to figure out what we needed to do and got back to work, and then things really started to pick up. After that event. We had a couple of individuals play in an event in Northward's event, and Jonah Tachero was able to play

in that event and got a win. And he shot sixty six, sixty eight, sixty eight, shot fourteen under that week and got a win, so that really kind of boosted his efforts for the fall season. And then right off of that, we went into the Georgia at the Golf Club at Georgia in that event, and we played really well that week. We finished third. We actually had a two or three shot lead going on the eighteenth hole.

I think we had a one shot lead in the eighteenth fairly, which is a reachable part five, and we had two guys with five irons in their hand into the green and another guy with a two iron and ended up playing the whole one over and losing that tournament by one. So that was a little painful, but we really were starting to show our good stuff then, and I think that kind of proof.

But that was a good event for our guys. That kind of, you know, settled them down. I think there was a little bit of kind of looking around after the Nike event, kind of thinking what's going on here. We thought we were supposed to be the best team in the country type deal, so that kind of sells everyone down, and then going into two matchplay events, we really wanted to make an impression kind on the rest

of the country. It even proved ourselves that, you know, we're a really good match play team because I think are the best part of our rosters are depth. We are we are at least six deep, and we might be seven or eight deep of really good players. I mean, we have a guy sitting at home who's a freshman, Kyle Supa, who's from Honolulu, Hawaii, who's made a cut in a PGA tour eament. I mean, he's a really, really good player. He's going to do a lot of good things for us, but he hasn't even been able

to sniff our lineup yet. And he'll get in there eventually, but not yet. So our depth is really really key. So we paid play back to back six person match play events, so that really helped us.

qualifying like and how what's your qualifying process like? How you know, do certain guys like your veterans like Sean Crocker and Rico Joe and Jonahs Shara have like you know, is it how does it work?

all the time. So based on how guys are playing and kind of the pattern we've seen of play and how guys are doing in our tests in practice, we we develop a qualifying system for every tournament. And one thing Coach Zambria always kind of pounds on is, you know, we we're really the only sport that that qualifies. You know, our football team is not on the practice field with Sam Darnold, who's you know, come to be, you know,

a great quarterback for us the past few weeks. He's not on the field throwing a football to retire against our second and third string quarterbacks to see who gets to play. You know, he's he's proven over the past few weeks that he's gonna be our starter. So to answer your question, we we have guys that we are

probably never going to go to tournaments without. Guys like Rico who's been a three time All American, is going to be a four time All American, and Sean Crocker who's ranked fifteenth in the world, and even Chang who's got chan Jin, who's got en up to a rough start. If you ask him, he would say it's been, you know, pretty bad for his standards, but he's ranked ninth in

the world. You know, he's proven for two years on the Wagger's system, which is a two year cycle, that he's one of the ten best players in the world. So we take all that stuff into account to figure out our qualifying system. But one thing that we are dead set on doing is giving our guys who are at home working hard a chance to make the lineup.

So we got back from the Golf Club of Georgia where we played great, and we needed to add another guy to the lineup because we have to play six in this next event, and Jonah had just won the Northward event the week before, so we you know our mind, Jonah is probably going to be the one we plug in, and everybody played really well at Georgia, But we gave our guys a chance to go out and shoot a number, and if they shot a certain number at our course,

Hillcrest out here that we play on Wednesdays, they would have a chance to get into qualifier against a couple of the guys who maybe hadn't performed up to their expectations. So we're always trying to find ways to keep guys at the bottom of the roster or who are just outside of our lineup engage, because, like I said, those guys are going to play a big part in this program. Guys like Kyle Supa and guys like Danie Ochoa, who are I've been our you know seven and eight guys.

You know, if a guy goes down, guy gets hurt, those guys are next up and we got to keep them ready. So we're always trying to find ways to keep those guys engaged.

of manage your schedule to get these golf courses. And most people know USC is located, you know, right in the middle of downtown LA, so it'd be pretty hard for us to have an on course campus. Luckily for us, we're able to use our UC football practice field in USC Baseball Field to hit balls outdoors on campus, so that's huge for our kids, and we typically practice on campus on Tuesday and Thursday. And then along with that, three years ago we opened an indoor facility which is

located in the basement of Heritage Hall. We have two Foresight golf simulators, which quite honestly have been program changers. They've been maybe the best thing to happen to this

program in the last decade. These things are getting so much use, and they've enabled us to get so dialed in with our yardages, and like I said before, we are so big on iron play here, especially since Mark Brody's book Every Shot Counts came out and just stressed that if you want to be a great tour player, you better be good at strokes gain approach, and that's iron play, and that's something coach Danberry's always tried to kind of pound into a kid's head, and that's what

I've always tried to pound into my kid's head. And those simulators have given us the ability to get a lot done in a short time and given our kids the ability to go somewhere in between class or in between studying when we're not officially practicing, and get a great hour working in some yardage drills and line drills and do different things. So it's really been great for us. And then as far as country clubs go, this I think is probably our best best benefit of coming to

play golf at usc IS. We have three full memberships at Riviera Country Club, which means three of our guys every year are full members at riv So we kind of divide those up as however we see fit, and those kids for the semester or the year, or some kids for their four years are full blown Riviera members, which is I'm at Jordan's Beef brought it up when he was playing the Northern Trust last year. That is part of the deal at USC. If you play golf here,

you get one. If you're one of our good you know, one of our highest recruited players, you definitely get one. And I think that's a benefit that maybe not a lot of other programs can can match because that place is the tour has been there forever. The range is awesome, and just the name itself, you know, gives us a lot of it's spectacular.

So that's been a great addition for us, and we got full time usage there I think two years ago. Coach Demry negotiated a great deal for us there so our kids can show up on the weekend in the morning, go hit balls there, chip putt, hang around, try to sneak out and go play some holes. And that that's about fifteen minutes from campus and you don't have to get on a freeway, which if anyone's ever been to Los Angeles, that is a huge, huge plus. If you don't ever have to get on a freeway, that's a

life changer. So that those are kind of Wheelshairs are pretty much our home course, that's what I would say. But we use Hillcrest Country Club, which is another fifteen minutes from campus. On Friday mornings, we play at Annadale Country Club, which is a great club in Pasadena, and we use Trump National in Palace Verde is quite a bit and the good thing about Trump is it's right on the water. It's one of the most beautiful golf courses you've ever seen. In your entire life. But it

is a megabeast. It is long, it is mean. If you missed the fairway, it's like off a cliff, you can't even find it. And I think using Trump's really made us a great driving golf team. And that's something that coach Sanry myself is I've always I've always really been attracted to those guys who can drive the golf ball long and straight, and that's kind of where the game's gone almost almost you know, laughable now how far

these guys hit it. But it's been a great golf course for us to kind of stress the importance of that part of the game.

I mean, that's kind of what it is. But apart from those two things, we love ball strikers or sucker for really really good ball strikers, and the more specifically we both Coach Amry myself love unique ball strikers, kind of funky looking golf swings, weird grips. I mean, Coach Ambury likes nothing more than a kid with a super weird grip who just absolutely stripes it. Kind of homemade stuff,

not super manufactured. But our biggest deal is ball striking well, guys that hit it high and long, and then kind of in our mind, if you hit it solidly, we can kind of fill in the rest you need to put decently to some level and then it kind of

goes back in the strokes gain conversation. But if you put decently enough and you hit it long and solid and high and play well against your peers, you know we're we're going to focus in on you and we're gonna really want you, and we really have put a preference on guys who hit it long and high.

it's turned into. And all these postseason events are kind of trending howards really good high end, long hard golf courses, and we just think guys with speed have a big advantage. Now that being said, we do have we do have guys that don't have a ton of speed and they have to kind of manage their games differently, and that's that presents, you know, presents a different challenge for coach,

the memory myself when we get them in. But you know, it's a great mix to have, you know, three or four guys in your line up to kill it and then you've got you know another two or three guys who are you know, good good iron players, very accurate off the tee, and great chippers and putters. So you know, a mix is great. But I will tell you, first off, we're attracted to guys who hit it high and hard nice.

chance to get to see Maverick up close. And it is It is more impressive than the resume up close, I'll tell you that much. There's enough speed, there's enough height, but the way he can get himself around the golf course is otherworldly. I mean, there there's no Fluke that he's won as many times as he has and has had the success at Stanford that he has, So I think the list starts with him. After him, Will's Alaturus at wake Forest. We spent a bunch of them playing

with wake this year. Crazy impressive ball striker. Kid's got a ton of pop, long, lanky, but he pounds it and he's a lot of fun to watch. Gavin Hall at Texas has a crazy amount of speed. I think Tron Carter would be all in on on Gavin the length he hits it. He's not a big dude, but it's moving. It's like it takes a lot for Sean and even Rico to admit that someone's got crazy, crazy speed compared to them. And I think Gavin might be the guy that they're like, he might. He might have us.

So he's had a great year. And then I think, Uh, Wyndham Clark at Oregon, who was formerly at Oklahoma State is the number one ranked player in golf sat right now. Wyndham's and very very impressive bass striker, really really good player, and.

boy was impressive. He looks really really good right now and he's gonna be a tough one. And then Sam Burns from LSU just won the All American this past week. So there's another name. I know, it's a lot of names to give you, but now there's so.

you can't even get to all these guys. I mean there's another ten guys I could rattle off that I'm so impressed with it, and they don't even play for me, but I you know, when I watch them play and even watch them on the range, it's it's crazy impressive. And these guys are getting so much more polished. They're playing golf all year round. I mean they're playing every week in the summer. They're just they're so skilled and it's really cool to see. And they're all those players

are listed are on really really good college teams. I mean those teams are all top ten twelve teams. So it makes the college game so much more attractive to outsiders when these really really good players like mav And win them and guys like that are on college teams that they're gonna see on TV, whether it be at EASTA Cup or at the National Championship.

and not even the big guys. I mean Justin See was on our team, like you said, just finished second in the All American and I'll pass the last week he's five eight, one fifty five, one sixty and he won the long drive contest and he'll pass them. He hit three thirty eight or something like that. I mean, the speed these guys have and like a Gavin Hall, not that big of a guy, but just murders it. And it's across the board. It's a big boys game.

And we're seeing with recruits that are coming up and you know, thirteen fourteen year old fifteen year olds that we're watching. I mean, it's an over six foot game and all these guys have speed. And I don't know what the answer is because there's some people that don't like it. You know, they're probably gonna have to address the ball at some point because it's just getting to a point where golf courses aren't going to be able

to be big enough for these boys. I know we fight that problem in LA and that's why we're lucky. We have riv and Trump which are well over seven thousand yards and you know, huge golf courses. But we're losing the greatness of a lot of these smaller golf courses because the speed's just gotten to such an astronomical level.

guys are doing with their three wood. They're hitting the three woods three hundred and ten, three fifteen, and a lot of guys won't. They can't hit their three wood because it goes too far. The technology has gotten so good, it's kind of gone from the driver now down to

the three wood that it's a really weird deal. And I'm kind of interested to see where it goes with the club manufacturers from now on, because the technology's gone down to that three wood and you know what's next and what is he going to get into the hybrids and the utility irons And it would be interesting to see where it goes. So I'm curious, you know.

actually pick up some speed. So I know there's some some research being done on that now, which would I think would be good? I think it's gotten too long, and but you're not seeing any of the college players, I don't think really going over forty five maybe forty five and a half. But I think that's kind of hit a wall there at some point. You gotta you're losing control and the golf courses were playing with the rough we're playing on and it's going to come back to bite you.

It sounds to me like Stui's gonna have a really, really good chance to get on that Walker Cup team because they have to pick the two midams and him being twenty five and having the summer that he had, especially with that Midam title, I got to think he's almost a shoeing for that team. So I know Sean Rico have been in contact with him about that. But Stuie's a legend here at USC. He's got a bunch

of nicknames, Van Wilder, the Thin Beast. But with all the testing that we've done, Coach Zambri will always harp on the fact that stu might be his best iron player he's ever had, and that puts him in the category with love Mark and Tim Sluter, played the European Tour, and Rico Ho. He's been a three time American. So Stu's kind of a legend around here and all different walks of life, whether it be on in his fraternity or in the athletic department or even in our standards

of testing here. But he's a really good guy. He's got a really good family. His families all Trojans. I spent a lot of time around our fleg department, so we couldn't be happier for him. We were watching the playoffs on our phone on Coach Amby's phone during the practice round at Olympia Fields, and when he made that put to win, we went crazy and I think the whole golf course heard his scream, so it was we

were so happy for him. And he was telling Coach Amry and if the us An that he had aspirations of making this Walker Cup team and that's that's where his mind was, and he was gonna do everything he could to make that team. And winning that mid Am and getting in the Masters, that's that's definitely gonna help them. We're real for him.

stuff might be as good as I've ever seen. The way he hit his long irons and the way he drove the golf ball, and his hands. He's got very very underrated hands around the green. His high chipping game is world class. I adventure to say one of the best on tour. Going high from around the greens and he could always put. So I'm giving you two incredibly biased answers, by the way, so I've apologize for that. And the other one would be Chris Nalen, who's now

the assistant men's coach at Arizona. And I got to know Chris really well because I committed really early to Arizona, So I started hanging around the probe and going to some tournaments and when they were around the area that I was at, and got to know Chris really well and ended up living with him for three years towards the end of college and then into my coaching career. Chris's amateur record was stuff was like legend just I think it was a semifinalist in the am He won

the Northeastern and he won the Dogwood. He went on one of those crazy summer stretches, and he was such a good ball striker that it made up for I think what he would tell you was kind of his lower end putting skill, and he was good enough putter, he was serviceable, but his iron play was so good. It was something that always stuck out to me. Stuck out to me even as a young kid. It was something that I would just watch on the range and I would just my jaw would hit the floor. It

was so good. And I kind of spent all practice rounds of college tournaments when we see him trying to tell my kids how good he was, and they're like, yeah, yeah, whatever. I'm like, oh, guys, this guy was so good. He shot sixty five, sixty four, sixty three, sixty two with the Dogwood one summer, and then they were like, what actually, And unfortunately he had a has a really bad back injury and it's not able to play anymore, which is

kind of similar to what Jamie had. Jamie broke his back and had surgery, but luckily he's kind of regained his health. But those two guys, in my eyes, guys, I spent a lot of time around kind of there's stuff with something that always stuck out to me, and I always admired.

a problem coming off his back injury. So I think now he's kind of focusing on tightening up his iron game, and if he can get his iron game a little better, I would look for him to do some big things, because he got himself in contention quite a bit last year, and that was pretty much on the back of his chipping ability. He's a good putter, and then you know, I think he was third or fourth all year of

strokes game driving. He's just so far and so high that Chris Como really tightened up his accuracy and he kept his distance in doing so. And he said he's been working hard on his iron game and he's he's come in a couple of times since I've been here to work with coach and on the testing, and you know, we're expecting big things from Jamie this year. And he just got married so he's you know, his life's in a good play. So hopefully he can get off to a good start and do some big things this year.

forty seven ft from the hole. And then we're like, oh, he'll chip it to a foot and it's like Jamie Lovemark third shot to six inches and it's just like he's such a good shipper, but it totally gets lost because he he was dominating that Strokes game driving stat But like I said, if he can get that iron game just a little bit better and a little bit sharper, he's he's gonna do some great things, all right.

they really care about the rankings. It's how you know, companies make decisions on guys when they're turning pro and even agencies, you know, look at guys' rankings when they're trying to figure out who they want to represent. So it's a big deal to these guys. It's a big deal to us. We want guys that are highly ranked, and I just feel like if you have substitutions in

stroke play scenarios, we're gonna have guys. You know, if you pull a guy out to the finished last in the tournament, or did you just not get a ranking for the tournament so you'll have you could have you know, some room for some some funky stuff going on as far as pulling a guy out or when do you know if you get a highly ranked guy who's playing bad and you pull him out, you know, are you

pulling him out really to make your team better? You're pulling him out, you know, maybe to save his ranking, to make him feel a little bit better. So I just feel like there's a lot of scenarios there, But as far as match play is concerned, I think it's a great idea. I think it gives more guys a chance to travel, which also presents another problem for smaller programs. For bigger Power five programs, the expense is not that

big of a deal. It's another, you know, thousand dollars fifteen hundred dollars a trip, which just added on your budget. And you know, the bigger football schools can kind of kind of deal with it, but the mid majors, that's a lot of money that they probably have the fundraise. So you know, there's a there's something that a lot of people don't think about when they talk about substitutions, is to added expense. But as far as match play, I think it works, and the Bohasler situation just shined

the light on it. It's kind of been talked about for a long time. Actually, remember Tochal Rose bringing this up when I was playing back in two thousand and seven. I think even brought it up with the Coaches convention then. But it's kind of a funny story. At at Eugene obviously had the Bow situation, but our women's team at USC played Duke in the first round of match play

and Leon Maguire played with early stage of vertigo. It kind of wasn't really talked about because it was a quarterfinal match, but you know, trust me, they would have liked the substitution. They would have had to pull the number one amateur in the country, in the world to rest that day because k early stage vertigo. Now she fought through it and played and you know, actually actually

played decently well that day. But it's something that presented itself twice that week, and obviously the bow One being in the situation it was, and you know, the talent he is, you know, always being in the spotlight as good as his record was got more people to talk about it. But it's something that's been discussed for a while now.

You know, bring bring seven guys if you want, you know who cares, bring the whole team, figure out who you want to play in the match play. I think it's a great way to get more guys involved, and it gets more strategy involved for the coaches, which which I think is great.

Ambry on that golf course, where they loved it. Kind of the words we I kept hearing are big, mean, long, a lot of marsh I guess from what I hear, But it's gonna be a really, really tough test. I think it's going to put a big mark on driving ability and long iron play, which our entire roster gets excited about when they hear that, probably from getting it pounded into their heads by coaching my self. But it's

something we're really looking forward to. And then all I keep hearing about it are these different team grounds and you know, a couple of hundred different ways to play the golf course. So when we get into match play, it could be a very interesting setup where they could change some stuff coming down the stretch, makes them holes drivable, makes some par fives reachable, where hopefully we can give the TV audience some some exciting stuff.