Golf and Music with Drew Holcomb

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Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run off of the course. Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Golf Podcast. I am your host, Andy Johnson, and today I am joined by a singer songwriter, Drew Holcombe. He is Drew Holcomb of Drew Holcomb and the Neighbors. They have an Americana band, a very popular band, and I think he was in the macys Uh Thanksgiving Parade. So Drew, before that, join me to talk about golf. He is he's like as much of a golf nut as you could possibly imagine,

But yeah, well, I mean, obviously on the road, I play all the time, so there's so many, there's so many good ones.

At this point. I've made a lot of friends around the country.

So whenever I get to play somewhere and you know, have a match and beat a friend anywhere on the road, it sort of like starts to starts the day with the wind, you know. This last fall I got to play. I get to play a lot of really cool places, but I've never played Minnicotta up in Minneapolis, and I went out there and had the best round of my year. And what was that? That was fine, It was a great golf course, great day. But I got the headline first avenue that night, which is probably a top five

Though, mean it's kind of thee.

The secret that everybody knows is that all of us musicians love to play golf, uh, you know, so we get to play a lot of great spots and meet a lot of great people. And I it's definitely one of the things I had no idea. I mean, I wasn't even a golfer when I started playing music, so it's all been a big surprise to me.

I got to ask, you know, you put your you're into golf architecture, You're super into golf courses. Do you you brought up too like historic venues? Is the feeling of before a show similar to like the feeling before you go play a great golf course when you play at one of those venues, Like do you do you get up?

Like?

What what's it like when you're playing music at a historical venue? And is it at all similar to the to the feeling golfers get when they get to go those places?

Oh?

Yeah, for sure, I think that it's a lot of It's like what I would call just the ghosts. You know, you're when you're when you're playing a Ryman or Red Rocks or Troubadour or I mean, honestly, every town in America has these rooms. Like I was just talking to my manager about the Spring tour, and we're getting to play some really historic spots. We're playing the Fillmore in San Francisco, We're playing the nine thirty Club in DC,

You know, has anybody ever gotten like the figure of golf shanks and music? Like what would that be? What would that even be?

Well, for sure there's a couple of them.

One when you're in let's say Little Rock and you say, how you doing Fayetteville, Which that's happened to me. Not to be fair, I had a three month old on the road with me and I'd slept like two hours the night before of three kids, so you know they've they've seen a lot of that as well. And then forgetting words, which I do all the time. I forget

See your reference. You you weren't a golfer before you got into music. What got you into golf really was music.

I kept getting invited to play all these great spots, and and I had golf clubs. I had a pair of a set of ping I two's. I mean, my lowest wedge was a pitching wedge, you know. And a couple of things happened one year, probably fifteen years ago. In the same year, I got invited to play Oakland Hills in Detroit, and I was in my pocket on twelve holes, just making a fool of myself, and then I just thought, man, I can't. I've got to learn how to play this game if I'm going to keep

I was with Harris English.

I just met him and he's looking at my clubs and he's like, you had a decent swing, Like what are we doing here?

You know? And I had this I had this lie. I never forget.

I had a lie that was I had hit over a bunker to a tight pin and all I have was a pitching wedge and he's like, so let me explain to you, like this is impossible. You can't do this anymore. And so those were a couple of things. That was probably I don't know two thousand and I don't know nine or ten eight or something like that. And then the other thing was I have two really close friends here in Nashville that are really good players. One kind of is around a plus two and the

So yeah, you work at night, so it's like.

At work at night. So it's a perfect job for somebody wants to get into the game.

I was going to ask, what's your split on like golf on the road versus home? Percentage wise? How much more golf do you play on the road than at home.

It's probably on an average year, probably sixty five thirty five road versus home. So it's it's pretty it's significant. Yeah, that's you know, because I'm hung a lot. I'm hung a lot more than I am on the road.

Uh.

But and the interesting thing to me too, that's been fun is golfers love music, right, so I get invited. Let's say I get invited to go play somewhere in Dallas and have a good time. And you know, I always say I get invited the first time because of music. I get invited back because I play fast, you know. So I'm like a very fast player, even when I was bad. I mean I was. I was a fifteen handicap a decade ago when I got you know, and

I bet, I bet That's the thing. It's probably almost a challenge because you sometimes want to go see new places, but you've got these friends that you go every time and they come to the show and it's like, you know, it's an amazing probably just you know, it makes for great days and it's always easier to play with people that you know, right, you go back to.

Totally, well, I think if you can, if you have the option of playing with a good friend. For instance, let's say I've got a great friend who hosts me every time I go to Chicago out at out at you know Chicago golf, which you know is for for most folks and myself included, before I knew him, was an ungettable you know. And so I start playing with him, and now we actually have fun and we have a

Like, I mean, I.

Think I'd rather just go play with my buddy.

You know, it's the hard the hard thing. You got to have longer trips or something, but or do most You got to get to the point where you're like Taylor Swift, playing like three shows every time you're in a city.

Right, Yes, I need to get into the residency model so I can try out all the other golf courses.

How did you get better at golf? Because I played with you, you're a good player.

I got better.

I mean at first it was just a lot of reps and then watching good players play. And then I got to be like about a ten or eleven. And I joined a club here in town, and you know, I was breaking ninety every once in a while and had you know, streaky moments, and so I go, I decided to get my first lesson. And so the guy's taking some videos of the iPad and he says, okay, so what's what's the goal?

What do you what do you want here?

You know, it's probably twelve at the time, And I said, man, I'd like to be like a single digit player. And he goes, okay, but like you want to be a nine or you want to be a two? And I was like, I mean, I'd love to be able to get down to a two or three, you know, And he goes, okay, if you want to be a nine, I got a handful of things we can start working on. He goes, if you want to be a two, we got to start over.

So did you start over?

So I started over.

I had one of those big you know, inside out cuts, just you know, just a big old cut swing, and he made me completely get rid of that and go to more of an outside end draw swing.

And then the other thing that it really helped.

I've played a lot of golf with two PGA Tour guys in particular, Scott Stallings and Kevin Kissner, and both of them have been very generous to basically turn every time we play into kind of a teaching round and just little things like game management, decision making, sand shots. I've gotten really good with the sixty degree and short game and hitting, you know, getting I'm not just just

So I feel like what you said that the stuff. You know, a lot of times people look to PGA Tour players for like technique stuff, but like what you said about just game game management, that's what they're the best in the world at, is just getting a ball around a golf course like it's amazing to watch a guy effectively slap it around and it's like, oh, he shot sixty seven today and he didn't play great. What's

Yeah? I think.

I mean I used to be a pin hunter, you know. And Scott's the best because he's really sarcastic. I mean, so his kids are. They're both like big trash talkers. But Scott will wait till I make a mistake and then he'll say, all right, all right, all right, so tell me about that decision, you know. And I'm like, well, I thought I could, you know, I thought I could cover the right side draw it into that type pin. And he's like, yes, see, you don't have that shot.

You know.

It's that's that's that's one. My favorite thing with Kissner was when covid started. Uh, we were both bored when the tour was still not doing anything early early on and I'm a part of the swetens Cove ownership group and a very very very small piece, but still a part of it, and so he had not played it, and I said, why don't we do like a little

I feel like you should have gotten like eight.

Yeah, well based on how he played. So he shows up and he's in full tour regalia, he's got his sponsor stuff, on everything, and I'm you know, I'm like, hey man, what's uh, what's up with the like all the gear, you know, all the all the logos today And he's like, hey man, showtown today. And he had like a different countenance that every the time we played, and he goes eagle Birdie, Birdie Bertie, and I'm four down.

I was just like this is all on the internet.

Just like, okay, well this was not the friendly fundraising round that I thought we were going to have. So that was a public a public evisceration that I'll never forget.

What a good sponsor man, what a good guy for the sponsors. He's wearing his full gear even on an off Yeah, now he knew get it.

Well, it wasn't off day, but we were.

It was a fundraiser for COVID relief for like unemployed folks, and so his sponsors had all been sort of preemptively generous, you know. So it was a it was a it was a thoughtful flex.

How did you get into the Sweeten's cove the that like what was the decision making and like how did that just come about?

Well?

I was a pretty early adopter because it's not that far from Nashville, and I remember the very early even before it was finished, there was like a PDF floating around, you know, Nashville, the sort of Nashville golf scene. It's like, hey, there's some guys building a nine holer, you know, like redoing this course. We should go check it out. It's you know, maybe we should. You know, there was like a membership thing at the time. There was at first it was maybe it was going to be private. Who

And then found out.

That and in parallel track to that, I had gotten to know Andy Roddick through through golf as well. We have a mutual friend that had introduced us and we actually played for the first time at Sweeten's and then this was like three months after you know, a Hoopie had opened, and then the same group went down there and Rob Collins went with us to play a hoopie

It's all it's all over all over the internet.

And they still had a couple of like investors slots and they said, you know, we're looking for somebody that loves bourbon is from Tennessee, is a musician and loves golf.

It's like they were targeting you.

I was like, well, like, I think there's only maybe maybe one of those, and that's me, So so I kind of jumped at the opportunity to get involved. And it's been really neat to see. I mean, obviously, you know, the National Press yourself included, really put the story on the map. But with some you know, sort of better funding and more sort of thoughtful management, the property is really just doing it awesome.

And we get people from all.

Over the world, really all over the world that come to have as it's now one of those you know, it's some one of those pilgrimages that people can take, and it's one of the pilgrimages that hasn't been you know, hasn't been milked for every penny that you know, the pebbles and sawgrasses of the world have become.

So yeah, I mean it's I think it's an amazing testament. I think rightfully so to a certain degree, the Internet, social media and everything is right now, you know, people are like, is this really good for the society? Right, and a lot of different industries have changed. But in terms of independent golf course ownership, the idea of a nine hole golf course in the middle of nowhere becoming

Yeah, no, that's absolutely true.

I think, you know, before we started, before we push record, I was just sharing a little bit about how I was. I was a little bit of a late bloomer. The music that I made early on didn't connect. Really. My third or fourth record was the one that finally started connecting with an actual audience of fans. And that wouldn't

So honestly, one of like, you know, I think about drawbacks to my life and entrepreneurship, and I would not trade what I decided to do when I started this company for really anything. But one of the things that I greatly greatly miss is that I used to go to like, you know, like a dozen concerts a year, and that number has greatly greatly shrunk and obviously some of its life, but a lot of it's just entrepreneurship

Yeah, I'll take a couple of things for example that it were like I had major sort of growth spurts. I think a recent one for me has been a very simple thing. I used to always have a guitar. I mean, if I was on stage, I had a guitar. And over the last two record cycles, especially this one, and there are multiple songs on the new record where I don't need the guitar so I can just you know, grab the mic and just get off the mic stand

I'm not an entertainer. I'm just a songwriter guy.

And I've really embraced being an entertainer I've embraced that part of the show. And then the one I would say before that, maybe go back ten years, you know, the development of my of my voice. Like when I started, I only understood myself as an artist as really just as the voice is just this sort of practical vehicle to get the song out, because to me, I always thought of myself first and primarily a songwriter. And then

You gotta find your people, you know.

And then then like the one dynamic is like you gotta find your people. And inside of that those two things is a world of like emotional architecture.

Yeah, and I.

Didn't realize that until ten, ten, twelve years ago, And so that's been a really fun thing for me. And you know, it's like the early meets, there's like a I'll try to like the golf metaphors. Like young me was like all I want to do is hit you driver. You know, watch me hit the driver. And it's like learning how to hit the irons. And now it's like, you know, learn how to how to work the way. It's just like you develop skills that you didn't know that you need or that you didn't know you had.

To continue to grow and to continue.

To get better. I think that's you know, I think that's one things I love about golf is that there's no there's no perfection in it. There is a bit like every good round feels like you just wrote another good like a good song.

Do you feel that way after shows? Like there's always things you could do a little bit better. I maybe this is a pattern for you that you just go after it and.

Yes, yes and no.

But I'm also a great celebrator when it goes well, like when we have a show that just feels like a total ten and the crowd feels like a ten, and the set landed just right and everything was good. I do not I'm not the guy who like, all right, everybody in the green room, we're gonna sit around and talk about what we could have done better? You know that Always I always wait till the next day. And

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I can, I can, Yeah for sure. I love this. This is great.

Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna I wrote it down. I don't know why, but I was just I wrote down today golf courses that were new to me.

This show well, I was gonna ask I was going to ask about that too, So.

So I'll use a couple of those as like as maybe less like specific songs, but more I go with like band.

Yeah, I love it, I love you can take this. I always think about this stuff because I some of the time, like what I try and think about is a lot of times like the cadence of how the holes hit, you know, into different parts, And I think about like courses that go to wait a lot different topography, like like different settings. Like one time I was thinking, I don't know if you've ever played East Hampton, you

Yes, all right, I'm gonna go with Oakland Hills and Congressional are like Queen. They're just big stadium rock Opus Magnus, you know, very very much that way. Okay, I'm gonna go with Eagle Point down in Wilmington is like, like what's a good like Ben Harper the Innocent Criminals, like a little jammy not totally put together, really solid, a good time.

You know. I think the first band I ever saw, the first concert I ever saw, I was like it was like nineteen ninety six. This was the first concert that I went to as a kid. Like it was me and my friend and it was Dave Matthew's band and Ben Harper was opening. Yes, it's just like a crazy it's like, you know, it's just funny. It's whenever I think of Ben Harper, I think about that. That was the you know I had some like marijuana that like landed on my lap and the mom of the

Oh my gosh, that's great.

I'm trying to think, like Dave Matthews would be, Oh, here, Dave Matthews is Valley Club of Monacito.

All right, what's what's the what's the rationale?

Just kind of super comfortable in its own skin. It's as good as anything out there, but it doesn't need all the the pomp and circumstance, not super social media savvy, just comfortable. And it's like you know, in its age, it's young enough to be fun, but doesn't isn't trying, isn't trying too hard?

As a Chicago And I'm just gonna put a disclaimer. It's it's a Valley Club without without the tour bus incident.

Yeah, no, to be fair, that wasn't Dave's fault. But yes, the people on the boat in the Chicago River might not feel the same.

Yeah, exactly.

They They would say that their their golf course comp would be like the sixteenth that the Phoenix Open. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the Dave Matthews went for them. Okay, wing Foot is like Tony Bennett, you know, just classic, just classic. Yeah, I'm trying.

I played Leedo this year. I'm trying to figure out, what do you think?

Well? I thought it was Yeah, go ahead, I'll side of the comps, like, what were some things that stuck with you from these courses that you played? You've just listed off some some great new courses that you've played.

Okay, So my favorites from this year that I played were that I got to play on the road were Valley Club, Sleepy Hollow, which I've never played, Liedo, the Congressional Redo, and then Wingfoot especially I had never played wing Foot and.

Honestly whatever, I'll go those five, but.

Wingfoot, I had never had this imagination that I had with all the other top fifteen, top ten fifteen courses.

I don't know why, but I'd seen on TV a few times.

It just didn't really And I think I have a tendency to kind of like courses that are not like landlocked, and I'm not as big of an in town kind of fan, like a little space and so I just never had my imagination. So I went and played it, and I was completely intoxicated by the green complex is there. I mean, as an everyday player, if you remember there, you could you could you could play there one hundred rounds and it would never feel the same based on where the pins are in the wind. And I was

I think I think one of the underrated things about wing Foot and like is like it's hard, it's hard

Okay, on that note, I'm remembering something that Scott Stallings told me that has been the thing that has stuck with me the most, and it speaks speaks to this idea, if you don't hit the green is more of an attitude thing and it's a creativity thing. He told me that every missed shot around the green, you know, every every shot around the green is an opportunity to make

It's funny. I was I played, I played golf at San Francisco last week and I had I had a great caddy Exavier and he just finished playing college golf and we were just, you know, the couple holes before we were laughing about like because I was asking. I asked him a couple of times like what do you think I should hit? And he was just like, I'm just gonna tell you to hit sixty every time. The sixty degree and I'm like, oh, that's not how I play. I'm not a generation ze golfer like you, you know.

Yeah.

Like, and it's like that's the thing that's so fun, And like if I was playing in a tournament, I'm hitting a degree there. But that's the fun of like when you don't, when you're not really concerned about score, it allows you to hit more shots and it develops your game in different ways. And that's really the fun of like great architecture in My opinion is like, God, is this a golf course that I could just walk around, never never hit a shot from outside of fifty yards

Yeah, yeah, no doubt Meth's and for whatever reason, the visual like PGA Tour or not PGA Tour, but like the professional golf history there, like the TV didn't do that, didn't do that, doesn't do that justice.

Well, they just shoot stuff from too high. They almost do. They do it to Augusta in a sense too. Like you go to Augusta and it's like everybody you talk to that goes to Augusta for the first time, they're like, whoa,

Yeah, way in the sound too.

I mean everybody thinks that, like, oh, I was front row at so and so, and you're like it sounds like shit on the front row. It's like all you're hearing is like snare drum and like guitar amps, and you're like, go kind of near the middle by the sound guy, close your eyes and that's what's supposed to sound like.

You know that's good. Yeah, right, go right by the sound.

Getting the sound guy. Yeah for sure.

All right.

So I'll go to another one here, Sleepy Hollow, just all of the sort of it's one of those ones that was a little sort of okay, is all the like internet speaking of good angles, Yeah, like the Internet has made that the darling, you know, golf course of the ages for the last five years. I got to play it with Ben Hillard, who is uh ran point on that for Gil it also happens to be Sun Law.

That doesn't usually happen for me like this.

Actually the weirdest round of the year for me is I got to play Somerset and my host and I did not know that it was the like jokey Superintendent's revenge day God, and they were like tractors in front of the greens and I was like, oh, man, definitely need to just wipe this from my mind and go back.

Yeah, you get that place could be impossible if you did it on that day, but it could be so fun if you get it on the right day.

Yeah.

Did they have to pin in the back on five? That crazy green with the with the back Okay, did they put it all the way back?

Yeah? They had it on the very little back of that little hill before the other hill. And then I can't remember what hole it is, number whichever, the blind sort of tabletop punch bowl kind of green.

I think it's number three.

They had the flag in the back left corner, but the cup was in the front right.

It really, I mean, you know, it's.

Just it's a tough break for your first go round.

Totally, totally was completely blown away this year by the redo of Congressional Blue by Andrew Green.

I'd played it, I don't.

Know, six or seven years ago, maybe it maybe longer, eight or nine years ago, and you know, it felt like a kind of a classic, like super tough test, but I didn't remember much at all. Went back, and I mean just a completely different golf course than than what he had when he started with. So that was really a special day to see that, just to see the before and after.

I mean, honestly, it got I mean, it's an amazing thing to see that type of transformation because that one, I mean, they did so much work.

Yeah, yeah, I mean it's not even the same place. Yeah. And then you know, Valley Club I loved because mainly one of the things I loved about it had this great West Coast culture vibe of just everybody with push carts and a lot of you know, a lot of like nice fancy courses don't do the pushcart thing, at least not in the South. You know, that's sort of frowned on here. I guess I don't know, it's silly.

That clubhouse is amazing too. It's just like everything's just old right.

In the eucalyptus trees and the you know, the golf course is insane. It's just a great, great golf course. And then leedo, I found well, the group I was with got pretty I was I was the low player, and again I was playing like a four, and so the group got really aggressive and like, well, let's play the tips. You know, I was like, okay, first round, winds blowing twenty five miles an hour. I mean, it ate everybody alive, myself included, you know.

I meant, first time around there, you have just no clue what's going on.

No, and the fairway undulation is insane. It's really really cool. I think it's awesome. I was surprised. I just I didn't I didn't do much research on it because I kind of just wanted to go in into it with a with no preconceived ideas I was expecting, you know, because it was a McDonald sort of template that I was expecting more of the templates than what there were, you know, which was which was cool. It was a surprise.

We didn't. It was a quick trip.

I didn't. We didn't play the other two and I have played those twice before. But an incredible compliment to what does the Michael has been doing there and you know, I don't, I don't know. It's a very unique it's a very unique golf course.

Yeah, it's crazy golf course. I mean, it's it's insane.

Yeah, there's a lot of things.

There's a lot of places that I want to see that are I mean speaking of the rain McDonald, I really would love to see mid Ocean.

That's like that and Camar show the last showing. Yeah, yeah, showing Bermuda.

Anybody anybody out there got a venue in Bermuda they want me to play? Yeah, that's that's That's one that I've that I've I would love to see. I've never done any of the any of the Boston stuff, so I think that would be fun of like my Opia and Essex and.

I mean they got they got good news stuff too. That's the thing about Boston. There's so much variety. Yeah, there's so much variety. And the landscape is just so distinct right where you have those rocky and sandy and the beautiful vegetation. I mean, an amazing area for golf. I love Boston.

Yeah, I mean, you know, back to your neck of the woods. We were joking about the other courses in Chicago, but there are i'd say of the of the major sort of markets, that's the one that I have sort of underplayed the most, just because I've got this great situation at one particular spot that I haven't really branched out. So that's that's an area that I would love to go. And then I went to another one I went to but it was actually lot it was technically twenty two.

I am doing that next year for one trip.

I'm going to Scotland with seven buddies and and we're gonna basically do just the North We've done sort of. We've done the trips where you try to get as many of the top ranked courses, and this time we're just going to camp out up in the highlands and just play awesome up there. But besides that, I don't I really just want to play a lot more golf at home.

Next year.

I miss being around and playing, you know, in my own club or golf club at Tennessee. I miss only got to Sweet twice.

Yeah, course next year too, right.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. That's which is very exciting.

Yeah, and actually got the gill let me get up there and the excavator and dig out a dig out a bunker.

So that was I hope you find that bunker very often.

Be fair.

I do want to go up there with a bucket of balls and just like really just dump them in the bunker and hit out of it, just see what it's like. Uh. But yeah, I think there's there's there's always And that's an interesting thing too right now with all all of the destination golf, what the Kaisers are up to, with the Cabot stuff, you know, citrus farms and you know the stuff going New Zealand, there's a never ending supply of opportunity and.

And not and not enough time or access.

I mean I know that I speak from like a very Musicians are incredibly privileged in the golf space, and I'm very self aware about that. That being said, I'm not going to give any of that privilege up. You know, I'm gonna go play these places if I get I from when I get invited.

But also, my kids are getting into golf and my daughter made like her first part of this year and that was probably the most exciting golf moment for me because it sort of sparked this imagination about what my future might hold of playing golf with my kids. And I don't know, that's definitely pretty fun.

Yeah. Yeah, your kids are getting to the age where they're they're golf potential. Are they shown interest?

Yeah they are. They're not.

I wouldn't say they were like obsessed with it, but they never say no and I invite them, So that's we're at least uh.

Seems like they just want to spend time with you. See. That's the that's the back door into getting a kid that that's going to play a lot of golf.

Right.

Yeah, yeah, Well, before we get you out here, I got I got a bunch of of quick hitting questions here for you. Yep, all right, music on the golf course? How loud? What's genre's best, and is it okay at all?

It's definitely okay.

I like just a good mixed playlist of like R, like classic R and B and kind of new sort of alt pop, weird stuff, you know. But then I'm also cool with the guys who just love to play country music all day. I mean, I have one rule with the music on the golf course. One one one playlist is happening at one time in the foursome. When there's like both carts are playing music and they're not the same, I feel like I'm gonna die.

It's like.

It's awful. And then the other rule is, whenever I'm playing with somebody's just please don't play with me, I can't be on the playlist, you know. So those are my two music rules.

People often ask me, do you ever listen to your podcast? I'm like, oh god, no.

No, heck no, definitely not.

Another question this is this is a holiday season question. Is Christmas music actually good?

You know? Some Christmas music is actually fantastic.

You've got a Christmas album?

Yeah, we did, we did like ten years ago.

And I will say this about Christmas music, it is some of the most complex popular music ever made. And people are always like, you got a Christmas album, you come play by yourself. I'm like, no, I have to have my band for that. I can't. I can't do that by myself. Not good enough.

But all the like.

Classic Sinatra, you know, Andy Williams, na King Cole, that stuff is awesome. There's also a pile of Christmas music trash out there that is the largest pile of trash in the music business.

All right. Top three Christmas albums.

Mm hmm, okay, the I mean, obviously the what's the the the Peanuts when I'm blinking Charlie, Yeah, yeah, Vincecaraldi Vince Scarlti is number one. Amy Grant's second Christmas record, I'll be Home for Christmas, and then I'm gonna go with the the bing Crosby one, blanking on the name, but it's the one with Maliki laky Maka and all that on it. It's a great his his silent eye is just so good.

All right, last two questions, What holidays should have more slash better music?

I mean, does Thanksgiving have any music?

I mean, my buddy Ben Rector has has the ones, you know, and you know, there's a.

Song on my record called gratitude.

I guess you could put that in the Thanksgiving category, but it seems.

For how big of a deal Thanksgiving is it should have music.

Yeah, I mean Fourth of July doesn't really have like music. But there's this America playlist. It's got like free Fallen and you know, Mellencamp, ain't that America? Like all the like classic rock songs that have the word America.

And then and then you got like a ton of country music that could fall into that.

Yes.

And then last question, which major golf event or major needs a new theme song most?

Is this a trap?

No, that's not trap. This came just came from This came from the Frida Egg slack slack slack room.

I mean, I don't know what's the writer up theme song? Is there one?

It's uh yeah, it's the I can't I can't think of it offhand, but you know the player's got a new one recently. It's that, you know. And then the masters. I mean you can't touch the masters, right.

No, you can't.

And honestly, I'm you know, you grow you just grow to love it, accustomed to it. Like I don't even know if it's good, but I just it just is what it is. You know, it takes, it brings, it brings everybody nice peace and calm. We're about to watch the Masters.

Maybe sit down and but may the right answer is the PGA for this, because the PGA just always is the major that needs something new, right it does.

It's true.

I mean I'm excited for you know, speaking of just like not the question you asked, but it is really fun. I think what the USGA is doing with basically building a new sort of a basically a new roda of classic courses. I mean, looking at the list of where all the US Opens are going to be, I feel like it's going to have more of that flavor that the Open Championship as of particular players really wanting to

Yeah, I've got mixed feelings because I feel like it disincentivizes the idea of like a golf course getting better if they're all booked, or a good new golf course getting built. Like my thing is like if you some of these places, like I'm not the biggest Chambers Bay or Aaron Hills fan like they I don't like, I'm not riding for them necessarily, but like the idea that we can't have you know that they don't have any history.

So my only counterpoint to that is I grew up. One of the reason I didn't.

Love golf growing up and why I gave it up for most of high school and college was because of that obsession with difficulty in our youth, where everybody that was building a golf course was like, oh, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna have the US Open one day, you know, We're gonna make it so hard that we're gonna get the US Open, and it just made for golf.

It was really not fun, and architecture.

Has just sort of thrown that idea out the window and now everything's being built, is being built just like for the large majority of golfers, and so I don't know, I feel like it's you know, as a as a fan watching watching Dustin Johnson finally sort of put all the naysayers to bed by just slam dunking the feet old at Oakmont.

Those the last two shots my brain.

Yeah, we'll never anybody who's paying attention to golf that that's like a lifetime memory of it. No longer was he just a guy who wins all the random tour events. He's actually, like, you know, a Hall of Fame player.

So we could.

I love arguing with you and he let's do it some other, do it some more.

Well, when you're out in San Francisco, if I'm here for the show, we'll do it again. You know, maybe we'll do some golf in between. But everybody, Uh, this is a great time of year to listen to your music. You know, you you've got a good That's what Brendan said in her slack is you know your music came up on one of his playlists and he was like, this is a good time of year for Drew Holcomb. If you if you're you know, if you like it, go to a show, go to a Drew Holcomb show.

Yeah, we do a lot.

We do all sorts of stuff. And I need more golf degenerates following me on social media so that my golf content gets more attention than than some of my other stuff.

So come on, come on and join the party.

Maybe if I get some more music people, I'll be able to say I have to go to I have to go to more concerts these that's right, that's right waiting for me to, you know, tell them about the new music that I've been listening to. So absolutely all right, Drew, thanks so much.

Yeah, thanks for having me. Great to see you.

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