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What is up ladies and gentlemen, we are back. We are live in person actually for this episode here. And this is the Freight Coach podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, we are the top podcast in transportation. We come to you every single weekday, 8:30am Pacific, 10:30 Central. We normally break down some industry headlines about transportation but today I'm going to take a little bit different angle on this.
Chiropractic is something that has been vital for my long term health and it is something that I wanted to bring a different angle on and talk about because you know, you've been my chiropractor now for over two years and it's been one of the most transformative journeys out there for me as kind of, I've been redoing my like getting to just re learn my entire body here over these last couple of years and I, I want to just talk more about it, what it's all about. So I figured I might as well bring my personal chiropractor on Dr. Zolt Eggy Samu today. So doctor, thank you so much for joining me.
Glad to be here.
No, I'm so, I always start off all my episodes like this, no matter what. So like how did you get your start in your journey in chiropractic? Like what brought you into that? What made you want to become a chiropractor?
Great question. So looking back, I was the traditional, I think, you know, kid of an immigrant family. My, my background's Hungarian. Parents moved to Canada and you know, so you start working like as soon as you can walk. So, so my first formal job was at nine years old working hospitality. My father built hotels and restaurants and I just loved service. And then after that I worked a lot in retail. But I was raised very naturally. My mother got milk from the farmers, she got eggs from the farm. I hated all of my school lunches because they were natural and healthy. I just wanted Wonder Bread and bologna. Never had that. And, but that was just part of our family's culture and I knew that I wanted to help and serve people, but I didn't necessarily want to use medications or surgeries.
Chiropractic presented itself to me. I fell in love with what it stood for and what it was able to do and how it could integrate with people. And it's changed my life. So my wife's a chiropractor, My kids have been raised in that model. And we every day is just, you know, a series of like wonders and just miracles in the practice. So my start was if I could put it in one word, is that chiropractic called me. Yeah.
So what do you think?
What, what.
Why does chiropractic get a bad rap out there? Is it because we've been so like. I mean, indoctrinate is the best word I can think of here to be like take pills. This is the only way of really approaching pain.
So that's part so great question. So pain is one thing. So chiropractic is great at getting people out of pain.
Yeah.
But chiropractic again in a word, is about function. And most people value their health when they lose their health, that's when they value it. Right. But chiropractic gets a bad rap for, I mean there's. How much time do we have? So there are good truckers and bad truckers. Right? The truck that got the freight to the depot on time, you know, under quote, all these things. That doesn't make the headlines. Right?
For sure. No, it doesn't. It's always the congratulations, you're doing your job.
Right. Exactly. And so, so there's just, there's people involved in chiropractic and the different people consume chiropractic for different reasons. So chiropractic can get a bad rap because I think sometimes regaining your health takes time. Like losing your health takes time and regaining. And we live in like this microwave TikTok idea of like, well, I should get my health back really quickly because I could take this pill, feel better. But at the same time your function, your health doesn't actually improve. So there's a lot of, I think nuance to like why chiropractic gets a bad rap. Maybe over promising and under delivering by some clinicians, maybe. I think here's what I would say.
Chiropractic gets a good rap is that when you connect with a patient and find out their goals, find out their values, find out why they're there, Are they looking for pain relief, corrective care, wellness care, Are they looking for somebody to coach their health, why are they there? And then working with a person in regards to that and then you have a good outcome. And I think if you don't listen to the person in front of you, I Think if you have some sort of other agenda, if you actually can't help them, if you're not the right doctor or chiropractor, if you don't have the right tools and you. And you fall short, I think that causes a strain on the relationship. And chiropractic is very relational rather than, say, transactional.
Yeah, yeah.
No, I'm right there with you. Because it's like, for me, I know personally that it was, you know, the chiropractors that I went to prior, seemed they were more concerned about getting me to sign up for, like a membership with them than they were about actually fixing me. And the amount of times that I was just like, hey, like, I am very sensitive in my neck. Like, I do not like the jolt that comes with, you know, manual neck readjustments. And it was like, it kind of just went in one ear and out the other, it seems. So it was almost like it built up an adverse reaction on me of like, I don't want to go in and see.
You're not listening. Yeah, I have these concerns and you're not listening.
Yes.
And so that you need that, and you need that. That, like, that's very important for you. What.
So, like, with that being said, like, when somebody comes in there, like, how do you. I know that this is like a case by case basis because everybody has varying degrees of pain. And in what they're, you know, like you're saying, like, what is, what do they want to actually get out of this? What's a good first step that somebody can take? Because, you know, if I go back and think about it where I had eight years of being in pain every single day, it was something with my. It was my back, it was my L4, my L. Now it's my L1 through my L5. But it was more of like, I don't know where to start, but this is what hurts. And how do I go from there?
So if somebody, and anybody that's listening, if somebody's looking for a chiropractor, these are the recommendations that I would give. Make sure that they're going to take extras of you. It's kind of like telling a trucker, I want you to deliver this. The first thing they say, well, where am I going? Yeah, like, so what's the route that we want to take? So what are their objectives? One of the biggest things that we do in the practice is find out why they're there. Now, again, superficially, you may say, well, I got back pain.
Yeah.
I get that. What's that? Back pain not allowing you to do well, I can't run. Okay, well, why is that important? I had a patient this morning. She said I need to run. Why? Because I'm a teacher. Okay. But running and teaching, I don't understand. Why is that important? Well, because the kids make me crazy. I'm an English teacher that right now I'm teaching math. I'm stressed out of my mind. I'm teaching high school math, and they're not nice. And running for me was a way to, like, blow off steam. Okay. And she also described herself as a fiance. Said, well, do you and your husband run? Oh, yeah, we love to run together. So running is your only avenue to blow off steam.
You love to do it with your husband, and you're getting married this fall because you can't run, you've gained weight, you can't blow off the steam, and now you can't spend time with your sweetheart.
Yeah.
And so the pain is. I said, listen, we're going to get you out of pain, but let's get you, like, happily married at your ideal dress size and all those other things, Right?
Yeah.
And she's like, I've never thought about it like that. So really connecting with people on, like, it's not just the superficial. I'm in pain. And so anybody that's listening, it's like, you want to find someone that's going to take an X ray, they're going to listen to you, they're going to find why it matters. And anybody online here, also, they have to acknowledge that there's four limiting resources. Time, money, energy, and focus. And you may say, listen, I'm all in. I got to get well. I'll do whatever you need to do. Money's not an option. But I'm on the road. Yeah, I'm on the road all the time. What can I do when I'm not here? Or what should my expectations be?
So we want to make sure that we have clear, defined expectations and agreements on what I can do and what they can do. Because chiropractic should never be done to you. It should be done with you. And by the way, that's why you're such a great person, patient member of the practice, because you do a lot on your own to get the results that you've gotten.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
No. And that's the thing is, you know, I feel like with. With a lot of individuals, you. You kind of hit that point where you're just like, all Right. I'm done. I. I can't continue to. To go down this path. Right? Like, I've, you know, I've never been depressed. I can't sit here and say, like, I've ever had, like, those moments. But, like, I. That was like, as close to it as I got because I was just, like, at a point where I'm like, what can I do here? Like, I can't walk. There's spasms. There's a bunch of stuff that was happening in my body. I'm like, it's uncontrollable. I don't know what to do. I can't sleep. I can't lay down. I can't sit up. I can't do anything here.
And then I'm thinking, like, do I really want to continue for the next 40 years like this? Like, what. What are we going to do? And, you know, for me, that's when it was kind of like, you call it that rock bottom moment where I'm like, all right, I got to do anything and everything here. What is it that I can do? I, you know, I'm like, I've been going to a chiropractor for, you know, a little bit now. I'm like, what additional treatments can we do? Is it. Is it a time thing? Do I got to go once a week? Is it twice a week?
What.
What do I have to do? And I was committed from that perspective. But I think that the. The treatment was a small portion of it. It was a ne. Necessary portion, but it was like, it was a total lifestyle change that I had to commit to because I am now of the mindset that mind, body, soul, everything's connected, and it is all one cohesive unit that operates together. And you have to.
You.
You have to. You know, at least for me, it was. I had to get one thing in line and then really start that snowball effect with it. So it's like. It was once I got my diet dialed in, and I don't even like to use the term diet, it's more of, like, this is just the way that I eat. I found the right foods for my body that kept inflammation down inside of that. And then it was like, all right, I got to start moving because motion is lotion, as they say. And it's not like I had to go out there and do marathons or wind sprints or anything like that.
It was very basic low pressure workouts because of the way that my spine is and like, the discs and all of that stuff that's going On I can't be bouncing up and down it. I just needed to move. And I was like, I'm going to stick to basic, simple things and I'm just going to do that day in and day out. And it took a very long time to get there, but now I'm like, I can't see myself living in any other way now.
No. You touched on a number of. So you said mindset. How you think? So the most important, if you're like, well, how do I change my life? Number one is mindset.
Yeah.
And then in my hierarchy, those mindset, neurology, food, exercise, detoxification. And detoxification is at the bottom because you don't need to detox because you don't talks. Right. Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So mindset changes everything. And you say, okay, so I don't know how to do this. I'm going to get a coach for that. I'm going to get a coach for this. I'm going to get rid of those influences in my life and I'm going to bring these influences in. Nutrition is vital, especially for you. A lot of drivers, truckers, when you look at lots of diabetes, lots of inflammation, you've got inflammation because truck stops are better now, but back in the day they were bad, they're still not great and there's still really bad choices there. A lot of inflammatory foods, a lot of bad oils and not a lot of opportunity, say, to think that you can work out. Can you knock out 100 push ups in the morning and 100 push ups at night? Yeah, that's 200 push ups.
Can you do 100 squats in the morning? 100 squats. And just like you said, basics. Can you do burpees? There's a lot of repetitive motion injuries in trucking that most people are not aware of. They think that you just sit behind the wheel and you just drive and eat bad food. But it's the ratcheting, it's the climbing, it's the jumping, it's the in and out, it's the twisting and then there's just a mental, emotional stress of just focusing on the. I mean the roadways are jammed, clogged and people don't appreciate that. A lot of the drivers on the line today are away from their families, their sweethearts, their kids, they're newborns. And so you've got mental, emotional, physical, chemical, all these things just tugging, creating inflammation, increased cortisol, decreased testosterone, all these things that are, you know, having negative impacts over time.
So mindset is number one.
Yeah.
And that's, you know, because it's like you are out there on the road and everything else, and there's a ton of different factors that. That play into it as well. Right. And I've noticed that even, you know, for me, it's like some of the best stress relievers that are out there is just literally going for a walk. Like, even when I'm in the middle of my workday here. Like, fortunately, where my office space is, there's a big parking lot. So it's like I can just do laps, and I will do that throughout the day. If it's like, If I got 30 minutes in between calls or something like that, I'm going to rock out a couple of laps quick. And there's just something from that perspective. So it's like, I always want to think, like, what, you know, drivers are out there.
You know, they're bouncing around, they're up and down throughout there, but for the most part, they are sitting for a long period of time. What are some, like, mobility stuff that, you know, just because I feel like I look at it like, you know, your back kind of pops when you move like that. But is there something that, you know, inside of the confines of a. Of a sleeper cab that a guy could. A guy or gal could do?
So were reflecting this morning. My wife and I were talking in the ride to work about all the drivers that we've taken care of, and again, we've taken care of the entire spectrum. Some of them, they have entire weight sets inside their cab.
Yeah.
So they're driving with arm, and they're doing curls.
Yeah.
Okay. I mean, literally doing that. They get to the truck stop, bathroom breaks, they're doing squats. Like, they're. They're just all in. And you can tell, right. They pack a lunch. They have, you know, like, organic food. Here's the problem with your walk. You gave the walk example. You're in a beautiful area. How many times do you pass people on your walk when you're doing your walk?
A decent amount?
You do.
Yeah.
Okay, so there's more like a. A healthy community here.
Yeah.
I thought you were going to say nobody.
Yeah.
Because you're a little different.
Yeah, that's true.
And so the problem is that what's easy to do is easy not to do.
Yes.
It's super easy to eat a green apple, and it's super easy to eat a Twinkie.
Yeah.
And they're. They're. They're both as easy. So things that you can do in a cab. Squats next to it, push ups next to it. You can do. Is there a place that you could do chin ups? Maybe trx, like those straps?
Yep.
Super easy elastic cabling. That's going to be for strength and stability. If you're looking at say, reducing or eliminating diabetes or inflammation or losing weight, 80% of that is nutrition.
Yeah, right.
And that's just to me, choices. A lot of times people don't know what to eat. So just really like reducing grains, inflammatory foods, sugars, you know, things like energy drinks. I remember back you go to truck stop, there's coffee. What else was there? Iced tea, Coca Cola products. Maybe now there's like monster drinks.
Yeah.
Sports drinks. And there, when you look at how much sugar is in them or even high fructose corn syrup, it's bad. It's massively degenerating on the body. Massively. The inflammation, brain fog, what it does to your pancreas. Bad period. Stay away from them. Don't drink your calories.
Yeah, that. I think that's one of the big. I think that's one of the bigger killers that are out there is the drinking of your calories, you know, and I think it' and then, you know, I think sugar is the biggest enemy that's out there. That for some reason is just constantly pumped into society is like not that big of a deal. For, for whatever reason. I think that is the biggest thing, at least for me. And a lot of the health stuff that I have is. It's so noticeable now if I consume something with even a higher doses of sugar than should because of the inflammation that pops up throughout my body. And it's like, you know, again, I could never, I couldn't imagine. I know the amount of physical pain that I was in.
I couldn't imagine doing that, driving a truck in that physical shape. Like, I wouldn't have been able to. I probably would have been on disability. I wouldn't be able to move the.
Way that you feel, say after a big carb load on, say Thanksgiving, like that, say like where you want to like undo the top of your pants and just go lay on the couch. Most people are driving around feeling like brain fog, depressed, bloated, Their guts are killing them and they don't know that there's a way out. And then you look at things like Monster and Red Bull and what else? I mean, every company now has a. As a drink and they're no longer life. They're. They're a lifestyle Drink because it comes with a whole lifestyle behind it. If you drink this drink, this is who you are.
Yeah.
You know, black coffee has zero calories. It's the oldest stimulant that's healthy. You want to keep it, you know, moderate. But there's a lot of different ways that you can have energy. You know, if you're. You can. The sugar's stealing your energy. Period. Stealing, period. And causing inflammation. It's shortening your ability to do what you do.
How important is it for people? Is there a certain age that taking. You know, going to see a chiropractor on a. Maybe it's just a monthly basis to start or something like that. Is it more related to your activity level or is it job level? Or is there just a certain age where you've come to see over your career, like, hey, around 30, it's beneficial to go in and get checked out at that point.
So this comes back to the question he asked. So, like, how do you maybe find a chiropractor?
Yeah.
So it depends on what you do. So the pro athletes that we take care of require a different kind of care. The high school athletes that we take care of require a different kind of care. The university students require different care than the babies that we see. It also depends on what's your symptom? Like, what symptoms do you have and what's the outcomes that you want. So really, again, I have to sit down and listen to what you want so that we can determine based on your X rays, your exam, your goals, what is it that you want to do? It's kind of like when you do a quote on freight. What does it depend on? Where's it going? Weather, you know, I mean, everything. So now I adjusted both my kids before I cut the umbilical cord.
Oh, wow.
If that gives you insight into, like, how. The question is, how important is your nervous system? Yeah, it's everything. It controls everything. So how much do you want to protect it with? Everything. When I was. My family moved to Vancouver and I was six. We had friends coming over, and so I thought, I'm gonna wash my dad's car. I loved cars. I love, you know, like, all that, you know, I just love taking care of cars. It was this beautiful orange, you know, sports car. And so I washed it and vacuumed it, and I filled it up for him to make sure that it was, like, ready to go. And. And then my dad just gave him the keys to his friend, and the guy made it to the end of the block and the Car died.
And the question you should be asking is, wait, you're six years old, washing and vacuuming the car. I get that, but how did you fill it up? Well, I didn't know I would just see people go to the gas station, put a hose into the tank and fill it up. And so I did the same thing at home. I put it in there, turned it on, let the thing run for like half an hour. So I'm sure that I just got all the gas out of the, you know, out of the tank. And they got to the end of the street and the whole engine seized up because I put the wrong fuel in the car. So when you put the wrong fuel in your body, what happens? It seizes up, gums up.
Very true.
Reduces its lifespan. Engine is cooked. And that's exactly what happens to the car. So when we realize that this is a machine, a self healing, self regulating machine that requires more than just inputs, we need other things, but we got to take care of this. And if we, but a lot of us take better care of our vehicles, our trucks, our homes, we take better care of it than our physical body.
Yeah.
And so it requires an understanding. So when should you start taking care of your nervous system?
I mean, as early as humanly possible.
Right. And when should you stop taking care.
Of your nervous system? When you physically are no longer alive.
That's right, yeah. And so anytime between that would be a good time to have your spirit find checked and evaluated based on your needs, based on what you want, with somebody that's going to honor that and then be able to guide you. We have, we have lots of patients that we see once because they fly in, they drive in, and they're like, I live in San Francisco, I live in the Bay Area, I live in New York, I live in England. I'm from my. I flew in for Christmas from Japan. My family says you have to get X rays and an evaluation done. And then we do it, we explain it to them, we adjust them, and then they go back and we help them find chiropractors all around the world.
Okay.
So that's, it's not about seeing us about. It's kind of like, when should you start taking care of your teeth? Now, as a parent, you brush your kids gums before they have teeth, before they have to, just to get. And then you brush them until. Well, you brush them so that you can keep your teeth until the end. Right. So in your spine and nervous system is way more important than your teeth.
Yeah.
So that's my answer.
No, I. I mean, I, I agree wholeheartedly with that. And I. I just don't know if enough individual. And I don't know if it's education system. I don't know if it's because people wait until something's broke before they try and want to, you know, make any necessary improvements. I know. That was me, right?
And guys are even. So it's like, well, yeah, we think. We think, okay, so when I have a problem, I'll go and get taken care of. No, no, no. Guys that come in, they're like, oh, no, I've had this for, you know, nine years. Really? You've had this problem for nine years? And I asked. We had several new patients this morning. I said, so why did you decide to now come in? And it's like, my spouse said, they can't take me anymore. You know, they just said, like, you need to go get this fixed. Because you're like, here's a solution. I'm tired of hearing about this. Some people will say, you know, like, it's affecting this. Or when you said that you were really inflamed and your body was breaking down.
A lot of people listening today have fear and worry about what their life is going to be like in a year or five years or ten years and that. Fear and worry. But it's fear and worry because they don't have a solution. They don't know what to do. They don't know where to start. And the worst thing I think that a lot of people could do is, like, be Dr. Google.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
I'm guilty of that. 100 agree, right?
Everything leads in early death or cancer.
Correct.
You know, and so. And then there's almost paralysis by analysis where people say, well, I don't know what to do, so I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing. I'm not dead yet.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
And. And so there's a lot of the. Your body is so smart. It is. It is so intelligent where if you just do a couple of the right things, it. The ship will write, it will get back on track, like, for you. Like you may have thought at one point, I'm kind of done. I don't know what to do.
Yeah, I'm just gonna start, you know.
Kind of spraying and praying. Yeah, I hope this stuff worked. And all of a sudden you're like, oh, well, that worked. Yeah, I'll do more of that, but what else could I do? And then you got around Again, like minded individuals. And you're like, well, that makes sense. I should, I should do the 90 hard. Yeah, I should eat this way. And then when you started eating a little better, then you learn something new and you're like, oh, I didn't know that was bad. I'm gonna. Now I'm gonna do more of that. And now you're like, yeah.
I mean, actually it was like a. I mean, to be honest, it was like a six year, five year process to really understand. Because, like, you know, I think I, I think a lot of people. Doctor. Need to give themselves first more grace of where they currently are. Like, they need to understand, like, all right, there's a lot to unwind here. There is no 30 day abs, there is no overnight fixes.
That's what we want for this. Yeah, we want the glp, we want the injection, we want. And listen, some people may need that.
Yeah.
Because it's beyond. But most of us just need to make some course correction. Listen, if you put me in the back of a rig and said, here's the keys, drive, I guarantee within a mile, I'm in the ditch, the thing is upside down, it's not going to end well.
Yeah.
Because I don't know how to navigate that industry. I don't know how to drive that vehicle. And then so on the flip side, you've got people that are experts in transport or experts as being a teacher or being like a mom or a football player.
Yeah.
But they know nothing about health. And that's where having a coach or somebody come alongside of you say, do this because it's going to be for you.
Yeah.
And they're like, I'll just do it. Great.
Yeah.
I think that, you know, because, I mean, I was the prototypical. Oh, I need this supplement. I'll hire this. I'll go do that. I always thought that there was another way, and I don't know what it was, but essentially it just got to the point where I'm like, all right, I got to keep it as simple as possible here. Like, I got, I'm done with the gimmicks, but, like, I started with one, you know, like, all I knew is I'm gonna start weighing out. I don't even know why I was weighing out my food, but I was like, I'm gonna eat steamed rice and then I'm gonna put a protein on it.
You know, like, I think I had chicken sausage and I started put, I just put, Eric, I'm gonna put two links on that, and then I'm just gonna change that and I'm gonna eat that for lunch every single day. And I did that for like, it was in 2020, and I did that for like two months. And I dropped like 15 pounds just by doing that and walking. And I'm like, oh, that's interesting. And then it was on to the next one. And it was a slow and steady approach. And then it was, you know, in time is where I got it very dialed in to where it's like, okay, now I know what I actually need to eat. And what I eat now is like the polar opposite of what every health expert out there is going to say.
I eat whole eggs every single morning. I eat ground beef, I eat potatoes, I eat rice. I eat a lot of stuff that most people are going to say sounds like food. Yeah. And that's exactly it is. I found it because, like, the more and more of the self research that I did on things, I'm like, wait a second, a lot of this stuff became a thing like 50 years ago, 70 years ago. I'm like, what happened to the first 11,000 years that were alive? What did they eat? And how do I kind of get as close back to that as possible? And that was one of the. I think, like, one of the most pivotal moments is I'm like, all right, there is no get healthy, quick thing. There is no diet foods.
It's just eat normal foods, but weigh them out, like, because I think people grossly underestimate or overestimate how much food they actually need. And then they're out there because again, they eat to excess. And then, like, one thing I came to realize is that was a hereditary thing of like, hey, we don't know when we're gonna get our next meal. Eat as much as you possibly can right now.
So there is that. Like, okay, let's. Let's fatten up because, you know, this caribou may, you know, not last long, so let's eat as much as we can.
Yeah.
But knowing that the food industry now designs food so that you create, crave that.
Correct.
So you have a crunch, you've got the hit for the salt, you've got the hit from the sugar, and your body now craves that. So they've hijacked your primitive mind so that you just want more of that. And, and what's interesting is that the, the mainstream health experts you're going against, but there's a lot of, I think Micro health experts that, like, speak a truth, that you're like, I get this, and your background is going to be different than say, you know, say somebody. What, what somebody else may need. Right. And you. So you got to kind of figure that out. But there's two things. You talk about weighing food. And so I can already hear people like, sign going, oh, I'm not gonna weigh my food. Yeah, that's just too much work. Do truckers track miles?
Yeah.
Like, do they track gas consumption? Do they. They track everything. So this is like the perfect demographic of people. These people. This, this whole industry tracks everything except for like their own vehicle.
Yeah.
So a small chart. And by the way, once you track it once, like once, you know, okay, so if I have an egg and, you know, or if I have, you know, two eggs and some, like, some spinach, or if I have this kind of salad, you only need to measure it once.
Yeah.
It's not like you have to measure everything every day because you already know. You're like, okay, I just consumed 1800 calories of high protein, high fat, low carb, slow burn carb with no seed oils with these, you know, extra ingredients. And it was amazing food. You're going to be looking forward to your next meal.
Yeah.
Right. Food should be exciting. It should be nourishing, it should be healthful. It should be, you know, proper fuel. And, and then once you do it for a couple weeks, it's just the rest of your life.
Yeah.
You just don't go back.
Yeah, no, I'm. I mean, I'm. I'm right there. Right.
Or sometimes you do go back. Yeah, sometimes, you know, like, you, like, I miss. I haven't had McDonald's in 25, 30 years. 30 years. Maybe 30 years. And now I know if I wanted to, I could. If I super missed it, I could. And so if you eat clean and you decided you're going to go like off the rails for a weekend and say, I'm just going to eat whatever I want, how would you feel?
I mean, I know how I do it because still to this day, I mean, I feel like garbage. Garbage. It doesn't. Like, what's crazy?
Have the option.
Yeah.
You're like, I could still do it.
Yeah.
Like, I'm not saying no, I'm just saying I'm going to eat like this and just kind of just see what it's like. And then if I want to go to that burger place and get two burgers and a thing of fries and a Milkshake. You will. Your body, once it's clean, will immediately tell you just messed up.
Yeah, you done messed up. And it's so apparent now. Like, it's like within, like, an hour now of eating, I can start feeling it. And, you know, for me, it was more of, like, you know, I guess for me. And I don't know if everybody's like this or not. It's like, it's an all or nothing thing, you know, where it's like, after a while, I don't want to feel like that anymore because, again, I know it affects my performance overall. It affects. I know it affects my marriage, it affects being a dad, it affects owning my company, running. Everything's affected by it. So I'm just kind of like. And I was your prototypical. Like, oh, that's not for me. Or, you know, it doesn't matter. It is, you know, like, it takes a couple of hard conversations initially.
And then I think, like, the biggest thing is you really just got to break everything down day by day. I am your prototypical overthinker about everything, thinking there's an easier way. And it just, like, when I completed the Live Hard program that, like, when I was done with it and then I was. I finished up a book called beyond entrepreneurship 2.0, where that's where it all just, like, clicked for me. I'm like, you got to stop worrying about tomorrow. I got to stop worrying about later tonight. I just got to worry about right now. And it's like, it's that next step. So it's like, I feel like health is always that thing that everybody always says I want to improve, but it's not for me.
And I feel like now it's like, I mean, especially with me, I mean, I'm going to be 39 in a couple of months. I know some people are going to hear that and be like, oh, you're still a baby. But I'm not at the end of the day either. Like, it takes me a lot longer to recover and everything else. I just want people to realize, like, there is a whole other alternative to this. Like, I was talking to a buddy of mine here a couple weeks back because, you know, I've been sober for over two years now. And he. Thank you. And he's like, man, he's like, how do you do it? Like, I feel like I'm gonna, you know, not have any friends. And he was going through all these things. I'm like, those are very real concerns. But here's another thing.
To think about. There's a whole group of people out there who are really good people who don't party, who don't do anything, that are active, that are. That are doing this. So it's like you're kind of stuck in your ways. And again, that's why I said you. You just gotta start with one area and just focus on that for a little bit until you start to realize, like, hey, this is a routine now. It's like, there is no. I don't have to psych myself up. It's the discipline aspect of this all, where it's like, you know, yesterday was Monday. I was not. You know, people rely on motivation all the time. Right. I was fucking the opposite of motivated yesterday for everything. But guess what? I've been doing the same stuff for so long.
I did everything that it was required, that I set out for that myself for that day. But again, that's five years of working on it to get to that point.
Realize that nobody's coming to see.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
No, that's the truth.
Nobody's, you know, knocking on your door saying, did you get it done? Yeah, if you don't get it done, you don't eat. You know, if you don't get it done, the needle does not move.
Especially as an entrepreneur.
Right. Which is. It's a life sentence.
Yeah.
And so as an entrepreneur, I think you and I talked about this, where sometimes you. You get so wrapped up in work or providing or taking care of other people that you are the one that. That. That struggles and suffers.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, well, I got to go do this. I can either work out now or. Or. Or cook a meal or. Or do. Or journal, you know, all those things. Or I can go write this report, do this quote, you know, train my team, make those phone calls. I'll just do this. And that's why a lot of entrepreneurs also really struggle with their health. And so. But as a driver, man, there's a lot. I mean, it's like you are a solo business person all the time.
Yeah.
You touched on the idea of alcohol, which is. It's a. You know, when we do our nutrition plans for a lot of people, they're like, well, what about booze? Like, it's. It's a question that comes up all the time. And people don't realize that they don't really like wine. They like the feeling.
Yes.
100% right.
They're, you know, and. And if you. If you don't drink for a day, I might Lose my friends. But you might not.
Yeah.
You can always listen if you said, I'm not drinking anymore. And there's, like, a lot of things that are. They're in. In style. Like, dry January.
Yeah.
Just tell your friends. Dry January.
Yeah.
Tell your. Tell your friends you're pregnant. I don't know, tell them something, but give them an excuse of, like, why you're choosing not to drink. And if you're like, I really enjoy it or I can handle it or whatever, you can go back to it. If you really like burgers and fries, you can go back to it. But give yourself the break and see how your life transforms of changing food, nutrition, ideas. And after a week, you're like, I can't. I never want to go back there. There's things that I just never want to do again.
No, I'm right there with you. And I think that, you know, for me, having those addictive traits and tendencies, and I think everybody has it to a certain varying degree. Right?
And, like, yes, as entrepreneurs, we are addicted to a lot of things.
Yeah. And. But, like, there's a way to channel it, right. Like, you can channel it to move your life forward in the right way. And, you know, now it's like, my addiction is. Is. How do I become the absolute best version of myself in every.
Best.
Yeah.
Best husband, best business person, best, you know, podcast, you know, best coach, best version of yourself. Like. Yeah.
And I feel like they're, you know, and it all just starts with some small things. Right. And I think, like, you know, Cohen, and seeing you on a. You know, it's bi weekly now, because, like, you just got me on the right path where it's like, hey, every two weeks, come in, we do the adjustments.
You're doing so much work on your own.
Yeah, it is. And there's a lot of stuff outside of it, because it is that total commitment. But, you know, it's like going in and seeing you, it was like knowing that, like, holy. Like, if I thought I had pain down in my ankle, it was actually because there was a disc in my neck was bulged or something like that, and just those little things. And it was like, the amount of relief that I would feel by coming in, just. And again, it was all about those little, small steps along there. Instead of going and saying, like, how do I accomplish everything overnight? It was like, all right, how do I just get a little bit better with this? And to me, it's.
I feel like chiropractic treatment is the most overlooked alternative to where most People, I think, need to start, because I feel like if you can get your, like you said, your nervous system, your spine, all of that, if you can start getting that aligned, what you're going to start to realize is, well, I'm way more mobile than I thought I was. And then I have way less pain in my body and other areas because again, you sit there and you think like, oh, my knee hurts. It's got to be something in my knee. Well, again, I'm not a doctor, but maybe it's your low back, maybe it's your mid back, maybe it's something compressing it and it's a nerve.
Yeah, but let's get rid of the maybe and just go. Okay, so this is what we need. Yeah, yeah. You do a lot of work and that's where, like, it in this whole journey that you're on, you're the hero. I'm just one of the guides.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, that's important. A lot of times, you know, people really, like, if you didn't get results, there's some doctors, all doctors that would say, well, you didn't do what I said. Yeah, it's your fault. Well, no, no. It's a partnership. Like, you do so much between a. Adjustments. And we also, we're a little different in that we will give nutrition advice, but you're easy to do that for. We will give exercise advice again, but you're already doing a lot of that. We're just always listening, fine tuning, pushing, advocating for. So you're one of the ideals.
It's, you know, all boils down to. I just got to a point where I was like, all right, enough's, enough with it, right? Like, it's. It, you know, I was, I. I just looked at it as like, man, I'm too young to feel this way, you know, Key to hit rock bottom.
Is that what we're saying?
Yeah, no, I think, you know, and everybody's got a different variant, you know, varying degree of what their rock bottom looks like. But, you know, I've talked about this on the show before. Like, the hardest conversation I ever had to have with it was the one with myself in the mirror Back in 2020, when I was 250 pounds, I was drinking every day and I was like, you're the problem. You know, and there was no. Because, like, I can't go. I never went, like, the AA route. I never went and sought treatment or anything like that because, like, I can't be told what to do. Like, I have to figure it out on my own. And that was one of those things where, you know, again, maybe I could have got here faster if I would have listened to people.
But that's just my personality at the end of the day and pretty fast, you know, when.
So you're 39. There's a lot of people listening right now, like. So I want you to just look in your rearview mirror and just look in the rearview mirror just for a second and just say, I'm the problem. Like, I am the problem. And now look back at the road and look back in the mirror and say, I'm also the solution and I am the only solution. And so because it starts with you, and. But then everything else will change after that. It's really. It's our choices. It's us.
Yeah, that's it.
So you're the solution. That's it.
I. That. And I think you. What you'll come to realize is in a very short amount of time, you realize that your body is a lot more resistant and it's a lot more adaptable to change. It's actually. It's. It's the. It's all at once. I don't think people actually understand. I don't even think scientists understand how resilient the human body truly is. I mean, what on earth fixes itself?
Like, what.
What else besides the body fixes itself?
Right? Comes from two cells.
Yeah.
Grows into this baby. This baby grows up. Now it's driving a truck. It's sitting here.
Yeah.
Like this. It's amazing. Digests food, assimilates, makes a heart. This, your heart. Every nine months, you have a new heart. It's a pump. Like, think about anybody that's had to replace a pump in their vehicle. This thing here lasts 120 years. It's always rebuilding itself.
That's wild.
You know, got these air filters, lungs, Right. We've got this windshield called our eyes, right? We've got the. It's amazing. Like, we have senses, we've got consciousness. I don't know anything else in the universe that's like that.
No, it's true. It is an amazing thing. Doctor.
Sorry. We ram garbage into this and wonder why it malfunctions. We abuse the heck out of it. We wonder why it malfunctions. And so if we just take some of those things away, it's just like planting a seed. And it will grow into this beautiful life, which is what you are experiencing right now, which at one point, you Thought maybe was impossible. And. And now you're like, guys, I went through this journey. It's possible. Just do this. And I'll even say, we're right off the 202 in Arizona. You want to pull your rig in next to our office and jump in, like, we'll accommodate you. We've got, you know, we've got, you know, truck parking if you need it.
Yeah, you guys got plenty of room out there. And that's the thing.
Also find you wherever you are. We've got people all over North America that we can send you to, and.
I think that's key, right? Is. Is, you know, for. With. At least with you guys, like, you can just tell that you guys actually want to help, right? Like, everybody inside of your entire office, they just want to help. At the end of the day, you don't get that everywhere. And I feel like, you know, and again, it's that the nervousness of when you are in that position where you're like, I got to start somewhere. Where do I go? And sometimes it's like. And again, like, that's the like. For me, it's like the whole point of doing the show, I just want to, like, put the right information out there for people that they can listen to it and then benefit their lives from it. Right? Like, it's not about getting something in return.
It's like, I get so much fulfillment from just doing the show and talking to people and, like, putting this out there, because it's like, ultimately, people just want, like, real solutions. They don't want to be fed a bill of goods. People are way smarter than a lot of people give them credit for. They just want to be told the truth. And it's like, that's what I love about going in there is like, you've never once oversold what it is. It was always about, how do we get you better? And that was the main focus the whole time. So I can't thank you guys enough for that pleasure.
Yeah, it's actually a pleasure taking care of you.
So I love it. Doctor, thank you so much for joining me here today.
Thanks for having.
I appreciate it. And by all means, you guys. We're going to put his contact information in the show notes, reach out to them. Even if you guys just have questions about where do you start? Maybe you live on the other side of the country. We're on the West Coast. Maybe you live in North Carolina, wherever it is, and you want to. You feel comfortable talking. Reach out, you guys. I'll gladly put you guys in contact with them so we can start. I appreciate you guys. I love you guys, and we'll be talking to you soon.