Guest: Sam Tripoli - Psyops & Spirituality: Why Questioning Authority is Never A Blackpill

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All right. Well, let's go ahead and get into this. So today we are welcoming someone who was kind enough to have me on his show a few weeks ago. He's a political commentator, a podcast host, a hilarious comedian making big waves across the internet. He hosts the wildly popular Tinfoil Hat podcast, which dives deep into conspiracy theories with a blend of humor. He's been a guest on the Joe Rogan Experience and appeared in several films and TV shows.

So our guest today is the one and only Sam Tripoli. Sam, thank you so much for joining us, dude. Welcome to the Freethought Project podcast. Thanks for having me on. Greatly appreciate it. Appreciate everything you guys do. And sorry you're going through with Facebook. Facebook sucks and it just sucks. And it's really terrible that you can't even talk to anybody there. It's like awful. So I feel for you guys.

I go through the same thing all the time. They ding me for something in 2019, and they won't forgive me for it's still there and i i can't advertise i can't even give them money so i'm with you man it's zuckerberg i got a new shirt out called fuck zuck and you can get it at tim flo at t-shirts.com and i i just think he has his finger and his thumb on the on the competitive balance of content creating and it really it really sucks for people like us

so i feel for you guys i'm sorry you're going through it thanks for having me on Yeah, well, yeah, thanks for that, man. And yeah, saying Facebook sucks is definitely putting it mildly. And the fact that they won't even take your money from something that happened in 2019. I mean, yeah, that really highlights just how pathetic they really are. Sam, I probably should have watched your comedy special from last year. Why is everybody getting quiet before you had me on your show?

But I watched it a couple of days after you had me on your podcast and hot damn man, it was freaking hilarious. I had my sides hurting. I had to share it with Matt and Don. And guys, if you're listening to this and haven't watched it and need some laughs, I guarantee you'll put a smile on your face. That means a lot. Thank you.

Yeah, of course. But you have this unique talent using humor to touch on some dark topics relating to our current condition as the human species, you seem to know how to keep it light enough to keep people engaged and laughing, but add just enough substance and truth to get their minds thinking and to plant some seeds of truth. And to me, it really is a balancing act. And I commend you for perfecting the art of it. And the more I think about it, the more I realize that our work does have many

parallels in many ways. And I'm not just talking about like the topics, like the conspiracy theory stuff, but we're both in the business of truth-telling. And that means that we have different means of delivery, of course, but I do regard you as a truth-teller first and foremost and a comedian second.

And I do want to talk about the comedy world and all that stuff. And hopefully at some point during this conversation, I could pick your brain about some of your favorite comedians. But I did want to ask first here, how do you navigate walking that line of relevancy with such perfection because. As I was saying, you know, much of our work here at the Free Thought Project is exposing these topics and issues that aren't really on people's radar.

And most of the time, you know, these topics or issues aren't on people's radar because they've yet, you know, they haven't accepted or acknowledged it by the mainstream apparatus, you know, the news, the entertainment, the celebrities. But that's kind of why people find value in our work, right? So how do you walk the line with such precision, kind of touching on these topics that are funny, interesting, but aren't really mainstream?

Because obviously the whole world doesn't live on Twitter like we do. So what's the formula to staying relevant in this niche and blending hidden truths with humor? That's a great question. And it's the best time and the worst time all at the same time, right? This is the best time ever to be able to connect with your audience. But at the same time, it's a very delicate balance.

Cause you know, if you talk about like the people that I looked up to when I was coming up in comedy, Bill Hicks and George Carlin and stuff like that, and we'll, we'll get into more of that later. But when they roamed the earth, you would get your news, you know, one hour at night and then you would read the paper and that was it. So you're so thirsty for it.

Now, now it's just like people are doom scrolling constantly all the time that you've seen this rise of what I, you know, I've labeled it. It's not very creative, but dumb comedy, the rise of stupid people just want to numb out when they go. So it's a weird kind of balance you have to do. You can't like people don't go to comedy clubs now to be lectured. They go to escape.

So you have to walk a fine line of like being able to talk about the issues that matter while at the same time, not coming off as being on a soapbox or lecturing them. Because people are grinding harder than they ever have in the history of time. I'm really over this narrative that people are lazy, the laziest they've ever been. Oh, we're the fattest we've ever been. We're the most overweight we've ever been. We're the lazy.

Bullshit, dude. It's the exact opposite. People are working twice as much for half the check. Our food is poisoned. We're working so hard, it's hard for us to sit down and do a properly prepared meal.

And so so we're up against it so it's it's an interesting time it's a like you said it's a balance act it's like get them laughing you know there was a there was a show on hbo many years ago i don't know the name of the show but it had this really great promotion they were running like on they were running ads for for the show on hbo and i remember watching one of the commercials for it and it had the best line that always stuck with me and it's kind of how i do my comedy It's like,

get them laughing, slip them the truth. That's what you have to do. A spoonful of sugar helps the medicine go down. You have to walk a very tight, tight, tight rope, but that's how you do it, man. And it's not really easy because now are we inundated with doom on our, you know, on our social media, but they've gotten us into being such emotional monkeys that we're, we're, we treat politics like sports.

Now I was just tweeting this you know nobody's calling for Karen Bass's head at all even if you think what she did she didn't plan to do on purpose all these decisions she made blew up in her face she should have to step down her decision making school decision making skills cost LA all these houses nobody's calling for it because they're she's on their team so it's a very delicate a delicate act, especially in Los Angeles, where it is, it used to be the best place to do standup.

I used to love to do stamp in LA. Now it's the, it's, it's, it's so hard to do comedy out here because everybody is so super sensitive. And so it's a, it's a really, really delicate act. Sure. And yeah, you're, you're LA resident. I believe you've been there for a while. I lived there for a while as well. I still consider it my home, but yeah, those fires were devastating, man. I know we touched on that a little bit during our podcast.

And boy, Hicks and Carlin, like, man, those two by themselves were such intellectual powerhouses, right? And they did it perfectly. Just like you were saying, they walked the line so brilliantly that a lot of people didn't realize that they were kind of having their philosophy and ideology kind of planted into their mind with these little bits and seeds of truth. So I love that you touched on those two names.

And, you know, when I was watching your special, it It's kind of like how, you know, some of the red pill crowd will say that they're watching TV and they could kind of see through the programming and, you know, all the different various commercials or TV shows or, I guess, Netflix shows specifically.

But when I was watching yours, your special, it was kind of the opposite where it's like, I guess maybe I've been doing this for so long, but I could kind of see like where you were planting these little seeds of truth here and there.

And it's really kind of resonated with me because I, as I said, you just did it so brilliantly that, you know, you got them laughing and then, yeah, you're sharing this stuff that, you know, in other contexts in a conversation would probably sound a little bit out of left field, but you know, you're brilliant the way you kind of interweave things. But, you know, the work that we do kind of does take this toll on the psyche and the soul. And it's definitely not for the weak or lighthearted.

It's a bit grueling to be completely honest. And, but I think we realized how important it is, or, you know, I don't want to speak for you. I guess everybody has different incentives. I don't want to make assumptions, you know, why, why you do this, but I think it's safe to say that people that read the news every day aren't.

I mean, even if they're the happiest people in the world, you can get depressed really easy, you know, and we try to get like a white pill question at the end of our podcast, just to kind of balance out some of these heavy conversations. And I know during our conversation, you said that, you know, you've been in this world for over a decade now. So I guess a decent follow-up question to be like, you know, what keeps you going?

What keeps you motivated to kind of trudge through these bleak headlines?

And like, what is the process you find or you use to find humor in the chaos and kind of transmute the political and cultural carnage into laughs? Yeah, that's a great question because you can get really lost in it. But, you know, for me, it's like, I'm really in this kind of place right now where it's like, I'm not really into saving anybody.

Uh, I don't think we could do it. I've been, you know, screaming for as loud as I can for, you know, the podcast has been going for eight years, but you know, me in the conspiracy world been going longer than that. And people just don't want to listen. And the more and more, you know. Just the notion of humans being mammals just really starts to resonate with me. And it just gets to this thing where it's like, if you ever watch animal planet.

You know, you, there's these herds of prey just roaming through the Serengeti or wherever. And these apex predators come and they just pick off a couple of them and the herd just keeps going. And, you know, we, in the truth community, we're like, Hey man, these, these lions are coming.

Wake up and everyone's like whatever dude they just keep going it's like that famous scene where they're like there's this river where these antelope cross every year and every year there's a crocodile going these guys aren't coming back there's no way they're gonna do it again and then here come the antelope again and they just get picked off again and the crocodile has to be like these are the dumbest people on the planet there's a part of me and i love people right it's very hard not to

get into oh these guys are all idiots but i love people but if it were it's like the prophet eddie bravo says right now if by this point right now you are somewhat of a conspiracy theorist i can't really save you my whole thing with my show is to put out the information though so that those who hear it can digest it and use it to change their life so when i go on the road which is a blessing. I do the road about twice a month. I like to stay home with my kids, but I love stand-up.

So I go on the road, and when people come up to me and they're like, dude, you changed my life, I'm so thankful. And then I tell them how they changed my life because there was a time I didn't have fans, and if I didn't have a podcast, I would just be talking to myself all day. But the truth is when you hear somebody hear this information and apply it to the life and change your life, that's really what it's about. But if you don't want to save yourself.

I can't do anything for you. And that, so that's where it is. It's, it's put out the information. So those who are seeking it can find it. Like there's a saying, like, don't worry about waking up the sheep, worry about waking up this, the sleeping lions. And I'm also like, fuck the sleeping lions. I'm not going to wake up anybody. I'm just going to, here's the information. This is what I know. And I, you know, I just did Tim, uh, pools podcast.

Tim wasn't feeling good. So he had co-host there. And the guy was a really nice guy. we had a serious disagreement on a couple things, but I told him, I go, man, I've been doing my podcast for eight years. It's a top 100 comedy podcast for all eight years. If, if I was more wrong than I was right, nobody would listen to the podcast. So, so we've been resonating for a while, just like you guys are telling the truth and all that stuff.

And if people don't want to hear it, they don't want to hear it. I can't really help it.

My favorite thing is like, as, as, as all my friends who are much bigger and more mainstream start to come into the space i really love it but it's still funny how people like us because we're the ogs and the early into the game of this thing still get tagged as crazy people when everybody is talking about what we've been talking about for years and it's like youtube facebook instagram not twitter so much i i mean i'm not saying twitter's perfect

uh we can get into my thoughts on twitter but these other platforms still treat us like you know we're right in the middle of pizzagate yelling about hillary clinton and pizza and they won't let us you know they won't like move on admit that we were right and you know if we're right we shouldn't be dung on it anymore but so that that is the delicate process you know to to you you know people are there to get entertained they work hard they want to laugh you know so you got to

walk that fine line of of of between entertainment and lecturing yeah dude that was i can't believe that no one's ever done that analogy before that's a fucking brilliant analogy about like we're just fucking nature and they're picking off antelope and no one fucking they got a few smart antelope like hey they're fucking they're eating us no why are we going through this river again so it gets killed every time i could like i just thought in my head like, yeah.

Well, see, we can cross this river again, guys, because this time, these are our crocodiles. These crocodiles are on our team. They're not going to eat us. Yeah, 100%. I mean, speaking of, right, like the whole fucking Revolutionary War was fought over trying to get rid of a king, and then here we have Trump fucking.

Declaring himself king yesterday on the official white house instagram it was fucking wild shit and people are standing up for like yeah man long live the king dude trump is king like america was literally founded on breaking free from a king right you think yeah like yeah like like it's just a smack in the face to these people and they don't even care they're just like lapping it up at the trough it's fucking mind-blowing to me how they can people can do these mental gymnastics and,

justify all this crazy i mean don't get me wrong like trump saying some doing some good shit here and there but some of the shit that he's doing is these moves that he's making are i hate to say it because i don't want to sound like the left fucking six years ago or seven years ago but it's fucking dictatorial moves and it's fucking crazy and i'm like how are these fucking people his supporters not awake to this shit and i guess i'm like you man i'm gonna throw my fucking hands

in the air and be like i guess they're not saving man they're not there's no saving it it's just yeah um but anyway you think that this like this king post that he made yesterday is like just him trolling or you think he's like actually just conditioning people to accept some kind of imperial presidency it could be a little both you know i mean it could be like i'm just gonna say this and if someday everyone's like will you be the king you'll be like okay if you want me to. I'll do it, right?

So it could be a little bit about, you know, Shane Cashman had a great tweet the other day, and it was basically along the lines of, like, you could love what Doge is doing with the auditing and also be very nervous about. You know, the technocratic jail coming. So I, that's kind of it, man. You kind of got to have both of those things. You know, when, when he announced what he wanted to do in Gaza, you know, I went right to Twitter and started just dropping bombs on him.

And because I do think in a weird way, Twitter is a way to get to these masters of mankind. I don't know what it is, but they check their tweets and they seem to, you know, react to when they get a bunch of negative tweets. So that's how it is. I am cheering on the positive things, fully knowing, you know, I'm guardedly optimistic about certain things like all these audits.

I think they're good, but why are they doing the audits? And I tweeted this yesterday and everyone just like, whatever stupid Q guy. But I was like, when Q was going, I was like, this could be them just telling us everything they're doing because they're just going to hit a reset button, which to me is kind of what they did with COVID, right? They shut everything down. They tried to completely rewire how we acted in society.

And then they kind of coming out with all the insane corruption going on in these government institutions, which we all agree should be exposed, but maybe it's being exposed because he's going to completely collapse all this government in a way that bring ushers in a new system. And, you know, sometimes it's the devil, you know, right? I'm not saying I'm fine with all the corruption and all the obviously fraud that's been going on. But what is coming down the pike could be even scarier.

Yeah, you know, most certainly. And when it comes to just like the conditioning of the people, right, you know, sort of going back to the whole Trump King post things. Like, I definitely think that it's a combination of both trolling and just saying the quiet part out loud.

There's this great article by caitlin johnstone i can't remember if we aggregated it or not yeah absolutely i can't remember if we agged it or not on free thought project but it was an article where she said the the best thing about trump is that he is the the like he's blatantly imperial like he's just openly empire and and like there's there's nothing hidden with him like you you see the agenda like full outright and that's sort of for a while.

Why a lot of the other empire managers have hated him for so long and it creates this illusion like on the people level who don't really understand the nuance of like what i refer to as gang warfare politics who they're like oh the establishment hates trump that much that means he's against them it's like no they hate him because he says the quiet part out loud they still want to try to get in you know this this covert oh yeah we're serving the people but in reality we're fucking you.

Whereas Trump is just like, no, we're going into Syria to take the oil. We want to get $500 billion of rare earth minerals from Ukraine. I've got my administration packed full of Goldman Sachs people. So I think that we've gotten to this point where the American people, at least a chunk of them, and you've probably noticed this, are just, I don't want to say they're apathetic to it.

But in a way, it's just like they've been inundated with so much bullshit that they're willing to accept somebody like a Trump coming in and quote unquote wrecking shop, even if it means. Not great things for the values of liberty. For example, I was just talking to Matt and Jason last night.

There is this friend of mine, former friend of mine that I respected that I got into a conversation or maybe, you know, back and forth argument, whatever with last night, where he just outright admits that he doesn't give a shit anymore. You know, he's, you know, full, full into the it's okay when my team does it mentality, because in his own words, after what the left and the Democrats have done for the last 10 years, I just want to see them get, get theirs.

I don't care, you know, if I don't have principles or integrity, or if it goes against what I previously stood for as a libertarian, I just want to see the Dems get owned at this point. To which point I was like, well, at least you're honest about your lack of principles and integrity.

And my thing is like, as harshly as I disagree with that, I get the mindset because it's like these people have been inundated with propaganda so much, even though I disagree with the conclusion, I can see why they would come to that conclusion. And I think it's a testament to the amount of propaganda that the American people have been subjected to on both sides of this thing. What do you think?

Well, I will tell you that going back to Trump and him being honest or him just blatantly say it, there was this, I posted this on Instagram and you can apply this to almost every aspect of life. And it's this from Thomas Sowell. So, so well, is that how you pronounce his last name?

Thomas Sowell. The fact that so many successful politicians Are such shameless liars Is not only a reflection on them It is also a reflection on us And this is the most important part of this statement When the people want the impossible Only liars can satisfy them And that's the most true shit You'll ever hear in your life I mean just the way we see With who people resonate with You know these giant entertainers who put out these

false personas and then they lose it all because it turns out they're liars. And like, you know, there's this whole thing about how authenticity is the highest vibrational force out there, but it's also something that scares a lot of people. And I don't know how many people you've had in your life that you were thick as thieves when you were like so close. And then suddenly, you know, you start getting into like, Hey, what's really happening.

And You start getting more spiritual or religious. They start to fade away. It is really weird to me. How people connect more with liars and thieves. I, I, it's very weird to me now going to your question about, you know, the, the right getting upset, not caring that the, that their guys are doing the same thing they just bitched about. I think that's a huge problem.

And I think if you went back to 2020, like, let's say 2001 and you went to all of the, you know, anybody there and you were to say, Hey dude, Fox news is the voice of reason. And MSNBC and CNN is just complete garbage. They would laugh in your face. I never will forget what Reagan did. I'll never forget what George Bush and all of these scumbags on the right have done. Okay. But I also know that the left has been completely fraudulent about everything they do.

So I guess people were just tired of seeing trans and women's sports and in the bathroom and all this absolute ridiculous stuff that they're, I think they're exhausted, man. I think they're exhausted from fighting the left that when the right now does it, they kind of just like, I just need a moment to breathe. And I just need a moment to breathe. Cause I'm so tired of fighting for the last, you know, all of Obama's years, all of Joe Biden's years.

But what I will say is that I have way more faith in the right calling out their leaders than I do the left because the left's whole thing is based on conformity yes how much can you conform to the narrative no no matter how ridiculous it is and therefore if you do call out this stuff you're you you could with the super progressive left you're you're you're public enemy number one no matter how ridiculous what they're saying is so yeah I understand

what you're saying I think people are just exhausted as they kind of need a moment to just. Breathe, I do have more faith in them calling out the leaders on the right than the left, calling leaders on the left. That's just my opinion.

Yeah. I mean, I reservedly agree with that because we even see, even though it is a sparse faction of them, there is this contingent of the Trump base that is still thankfully calling him out for very proudly proclaiming, continuing to proclaim himself as the father of the COVID vaccine and no operation warp speed was so great. And, and even though they're now trying to push through this Stargate, MRNA, cancer, AI facts, bullshit, there is still a vocal portion of his base.

They're like, no, like the COVID facts just killed millions of people. How are you proud of this? This is one of the worst blights of your previous administration. So I do agree with that to, to an extent to the point of people being exhausted. This is sort of where I get into my tinfoil hat to deliberately use a turn of phrase. So there's this document from the CIA that came out during MKUltra that discusses a strategy that they would use called the Alice in Wonderland strategy.

I remember I actually first heard about this in one of our previous podcasts with our good friend Gavin Nascimento. He was the one who told us about this and I looked into it more. The Alice in Wonderland strategy is essentially during MKUltra and during other, you know, break you down to build you back up sort of brainwashing techniques.

They would inundate them with the most ridiculous, topsy-turvy, upside-down bullshit, you know, triggering all these stressors, sort of like how when you're interrogating someone, you know, you'll saw off one inch of the chair, you know, to make it tip a little bit. You'll have the light flicker on and off. These things to hit, you know, your sensory, sort of sensory overload, deprivation, all these things combined.

And I genuinely believe, especially when we look back at like, you know, with what Dr. Robert Malone talked about with mass formation psychosis during COVID and all this sort of shit.

But I genuinely believe that this mass application of Alice in Wonderland sort of MK Ultra strategy has been used to just sensory overload the entirety of the population to both sides to just make them lose their minds and accept this nonsense that is coming from either the left or the right or wherever it's coming from. Because when you psychologically deprive people and break them down, it's easy to control them.

I couldn't agree more. I think when you go totally crazy, a little bit crazy seems sane. So true, man. Right? You know, and I think you're totally right. And it's just, this whole thing is just a constant, constant war on your psyche and soul to raise your anxiety because you're a lot more manipulative.

And it's, again, going back to the mammal analogy, it's just like, we cannot, we as a species, we just naturally need a leader and we just keep falling for these guys over and over and over again right you know it's it's like what you know pike said way back today when they need a leader we'll supply them and that's exactly what they're doing that's how they do it over and over again so when i had jason on the podcast we kind of talk about like breaking away

and i do believe that's how you're going to do it to the best extent that you can. I mean, Ruby Ridge, that guy was on a fucking hill in the middle of nowhere and they still found him.

But the point is like, and it's the point of my show is like, dude, take this information and go save yourself, grab your family. Get some land and really pull yourself out of it to the best of your ability. I do think you always have to check in to find out what the latest PSYOP is so you know not to fall for it.

But that's really it man is to pull yourself out and again like i said man you know if trump got rid of the irs got rid of the fed i'd be gay for trump i couldn't even care less dog you know what what he's gonna replace us with with that i don't know again i'm gardenly optimistic i'm 52 years old and history tells me we're gonna get screwed but those things are bad so i mean again I will. I'm hoping I'm, I'm expecting the worst, hoping for the best.

That's kind of how I have to live my life. You know, this term black pill, I think it's getting a kind of out of control because I think people are labeling black pill with like honest talk, you know, like people like Whitney Webb and Derek Rose and Jason, you guys over the, the, the free thought project, you know, you guys are important.

You guys are important because you guys are like giving us the data that we need not that we want but we need to know that listen man it's you know history says this isn't going to go the way they're telling us be up be guardedly optimistic or just be on your guard and i think that's really important important some people again who i think are just exhausted from the biden years just want to sit around and do a layup uh you know A victory lap And I think I think That's

where they can get you When your guard is down So that's why I think Like the quote unquote Black bill people Are so important, And that They give you the day That you need Not that you want. Sam, thank you for that excellent segue there, because that's exactly what I wanted to talk about next. And I know, you know, on your podcast, we did get we discussed that there is nuance to this conversation regarding, you know, MAGA 2.0, right?

It's not all bad. We've even touched on that a little bit during this podcast. There are some things that seem pretty good at this point. And there is a part of me that would love to be just like, fuck that guy, you know, fuck Trump, fuck Elon, like, fuck all of them. But, you know, some moves do indicate that there's some decent policies in action, obviously cutting funding for USAID, the Department of Education, the IRS, all these things are good.

And I want to believe that Doge is working to save taxpayers their hard earned money. And I would love to believe that Trump is, you know, finally draining the swamp, as we're promised during his first term. But I know you're skeptical. I'm skeptical as well, especially because, you know, we haven't seen any arrests yet, right?

Like, they're finding all these crazy anomalies, like the social security system, but there hasn't been any narrowing down or the actors who are instigating and implementing these like world-class money laundering schemes, you know, I mean, it's, so yeah, it seems to be important to note that. And whenever I ask questions like that, you know, I, I get these people, the MAGA pro flakes, you know, telling me I'm a doomer or I'm blackpilled.

And this framing almost does feel like deliberate. It does. It seems like it's spread very quickly.

It's almost hard to imagine that it's organic and i mean i get it you know like people who support politicians there's probably not a lot of brain activity going on there anyway but like latching on to others what they others say to defend their positions like i get that i could see that being their strategy but as derrick brose and whitney webb and these people you know have suggested, could this be the new smear like conspiracy theorists was for people on the

left you know And could it be something that has been orchestrated as a PSYOP by intelligence agencies? I mean, like, do you resonate with those claims at all? And like, I don't know, man, like, where did this black pill term even come from? And how does it spread so fast? No, I'm with you on that. You know, it reminds me what you're talking about is like the calling out of the, you know, what's really going on. And then the, you know, the mega bro flakes, as you call them,

calling you black pill. I don't know why this might not resonate, but it reminds me of the movie blood sport where Von Dom hears like this. Boom, boom, boom in the other locker room. And he's like, what is that? He goes over and it's Tom Poe. Who's just doing leg kicks against cinder blocks. And he's like, Oh no, I just saw something. And he runs over,

tries to tell his brother and his brother's like, bro, we got it. We're good. It's like, We're the, we're the Von Dom in this story going, Hey man, something dangerous could be coming. You should be like, Oh, aware of what's going on and they don't want to listen to us. That's a great point about, about Blackpill. Yeah, that could be. I mean, dude, everything is an intelligence trick. Everything. Yeah. They're constantly manipulating us. It's everything is sorcery, dude.

Everything is energy manipulation. Everything is meant to kind of play tricks on your mind So this notion that you want to have this belief That there's a white knight billionaire.

Who comes from New York City real estate Which is the assess pool of scumbags Of the worst of the worst And you think this guy is coming to save us Now, I will tell you this I do know people that have met Trump on a personal level They say he's a great guy But that doesn't mean he can't also be a cutthroat businessman, screw humanity, I'm going to get mine type of person as well.

But I do believe that, again, there are these things where they try to label people words and, again, labels that they think are going to scare us. I don't have a problem with being some people being black pilled. I personally, I personally don't believe that questioning Trump is black pilling, questioning Elon is black pilling.

I don't believe that. I think they are labeled those people that, and what you're saying is, I think that's, I think that's a great point that that could be a CIA or intelligence agency trick. So yeah, I agree with you on that. I do agree with that, that that could be a game being done because they don't want people to look into it.

And then, like, you know, as, like, say, somebody like Jimmy Dore, who's, like, come so far into what we're talking about, which is very important because he's taken a lot of people with him, he'd always be like, and they label me a conspiracy theorist. And I'm like, you got to stop getting upset about that term. You got to kind of embrace it. And if you own it, they'll stop calling you it because they know it upsets you.

So maybe it's the same thing with Blackpill. Maybe black pill is even deeper Then they're going to conspiracy theorists Calling them black pill To try to make them kind of shut up So yeah I think you're onto something guys. I always thought black pill was like nihilism, you know, like you find the negative in every single aspect and have no nuance. And that's what you, that's what you go with. You go with the fucking worst possible outcome, no matter what. I think it's no hope.

Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing is no hope that no matter what happens, no matter how much we think this is a win in reality, we lose. And I think that's what the end is, but you need that. You need that. You need to have that. Even if Trump gave us 364 days of the greatest presidency ever, on day 365, we should still be questioning everything he does. That is the only way you keep these guys honest. I said this on Tim Pool. A paranoid population is a powerful population.

The data tells us they're going to fuck us. Okay? These guys are apex predators. Again, going back to an animal planet The prey just want to live their life They want to get laid once in a while Have some kids And just eat some grass The predators are always hunting They never stop hunting All they do is hunt So we can't sit there and go I'm just going to enjoy life a little bit I'm not saying you have to be Again, being black-pilled And constantly doom and gloom but you got to keep your eye

on the prize at all time because the hunters are always hunting. Yeah. You're going to be that antelope that gets fucking smoked. There's no, no one's going to hurt us. And, but yeah, man, I guess I'm black pilled because like you said earlier, society has this tendency to follow liars and thieves. Right. And we're seeing them just line right up for what Don mentioned earlier, that made me chuckle a little bit, the $500 billion Stargate project.

Right. everybody on the right was who was red-pilled right they were so anti-wef and now they're like they're getting in line for the fucking the wef technocrats like fucking larry ellison and sam altman and masayoshi son like all of these guys who have been fucking with their their webs intertwined with the likes of fucking all these wf insiders right i but i i can i just i i i I respectfully just want to say I did. I feel like I saw a pushback on that.

Maybe it is just my, my algorithm on Twitter. I did. I felt like I saw people going this Larry L listen. I don't know how dirty we can get on this show, but you know. Larry Ellison seems like he's in the scat. He has that like, like, like he's into weird shit like that, literally and figuratively. Right. And it just seems like, It just seems like that they've decided the Bill Gates brand is dead and they're kind of chucking him to the side.

You don't see him as, and he's, they're replacing him with new billionaires. And I feel like these new billionaires instantly got their dicks kicked in. I think, I do think the public is a little bit more aware. Maybe I'm wrong. Again, it could be my algorithm, but I feel like there was a re a reaction to do. What the fuck? The guy that just got accused of molesting his sister and killing an intern were giving him $500 billion.

Maybe I could be wrong. And again, I'm aguardantly optimistic and I have no problems with admitting I'm wrong. I'm actually enjoy it because I think it gives you credibility if you're in the truth community and you're like, oh, dude, I got that wrong. You know, it gives you a little more street cred. But yeah, I feel like there was a little pushback on that. I could be wrong. No, I think you're right.

I've been pretty adamant about calling out the broligarchy, and I get some pushback in my comments. And maybe I'm not seeing it as well. Maybe it is the algorithm echo chambers or whatever. But a few people linked a few things. And I don't know. I feel like there's different factions within MAGA. There's kind of like the diehard bootlicking MAGA. There's the red pill MAGA that we were kind of touching on earlier. So it is hard to put them all in the same box.

Now, I'm really not trying to do that. But as far as I'm concerned, I mean, let's face it, like there's so much cheerleading going on for MAGA that as we were saying, like, yeah, somebody has to push back, like somebody has to be questioning this stuff. And even though I do see a lot of nuance in the conversation, I find it's kind of my position or it has been anyway over the past month or two to like really be questioning a lot of this stuff. And it seems to be resonating with people.

So I'm going to continue doing it. I think you're important. I think you should do that. I think you're very important, especially if you've been on the right side of the argument for so long to be like, Hey man, ours, our team can pull this bullshit too. And I think it's important. And you know what, maybe you're going to, maybe you're going to lose a couple people now, but if it turns out that you were right, they'll all come back. And then if it turns out you're wrong and you're like, yeah,

I was wrong. I think that earns credit too with people. Right. No, you're absolutely right, man. It's that authenticity, you know, repeated. it does build trust. And you were completely spot on saying, you know, when you admit that you're wrong, I mean, I think that shows a lot of integrity. But I'm still kind of wondering where all these, you know, history experts are. And I feel like they should be on Twitter. Apparently they're not.

And you're right. We do have the data here, especially when, you know, they're. Saying there's $500 billion and be allocated to CIA's Oracle. You know, I mean, that CIA and Oracle are attached at the hip. Oracle is actually a codename for a CA project back in the 70s. Yeah. Here's another weird fact, man. Larry Ellison is 80 years old. He looks like he's like, I don't know, 50 something, you know, like, I don't know what kind of baby blood he's injecting.

Oh, 100%. There's no way. Definitely not.

But, you know, you did touch on Jimmy me door there for a second. I know we're getting close here to the end of the podcast. So I did want to talk comedians a little bit. And we did talk some conspiracy theory, but I want to get in the comedy world just a little bit because I am an 80s baby. I did grow up, laugh my ass off to comedians like Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, some of the greatest to ever live.

And later, when I got a little bit more, a little bit older, I was into like Bill Hicks, George Carlin, the two greats that you named. But I respect your craft, man. And you certainly refined your approach over the years and you've become a well-known comic that tours and has a huge social media presence. But I wanted to know who are the people who inspire you? I know you touched on Hicks and Carlin already, but what are your thoughts on people like Dave Smith or Jimmy Dore or Joe Rogan?

And then I know this is a lot, but who is the GOAT? Who is the greatest of all time in your opinion? Okay. This is crazy because I've been thinking a lot about this. I love Dave Smith. I love Dave Smith. I think he's doing a wonderful job. I think he's super important because of his intelligence. He's articulate and he's not afraid to go, you know, into the lion's den and battle lions. So I think he's super important. I think Jimmy door is super important.

You know, if I, and I would never say criticism of Dave Smith. Cause I love him so much. I like I'm I'm full homo full homo for Dave Smith but I w I'm waiting for the spiritual side to come in to to his argument that will happen eventually because again whether it's politics or conspiracy it always leads to spirituality so that is that's I'm excited to watch Dave Smith go on this journey because he is pretty young I think he just turned 40 that's pretty young yeah yeah so.

So, you know, he just had a kid. I know he's having another kid. He might have had a second kid. I'm not sure. That will bring in spirituality to you. I love Jimmy Dore. I think he's so important. I would really hate to see if Jimmy Dore started talking about the moon landing getting fake or flat earth or any of that stuff because I think he's, and I mean this in the most loving way, the training wheels of conspiracy theory.

In that he's taking this kind of leftist progressive group and introducing them to conspiracy theories. Yeah. And if he went really hard into the craziest stuff, like, and I don't know where you guys are on this viruses don't exist. Right. I think he would lose a lot of them. Yeah. So I'm, I'm very happy that he is where he is. Again, I wish he wouldn't freak out about being called a conspiracy theorist. It's like a badge of honor. this stuff.

It's basically saying you got everything right. Right. So I love them. I think they're important. You know, Joe Rogan gets a lot of shit on the internet. He's controlled up. He's all that. I know him on a personal level. I don't know anyone that tells Joe Rogan to do anything. I think when people give Joe Rogan shit about some of his stances, he tends to be on the side that 99% of the population is on.

So, you know, at the, at the center of the Joe Rogan experience is a human being who has strengths and weaknesses. He tends to have more strengths than most people, but he is, you know, he's a human being and he, you know, he, he's just like anybody else. He, he gets it on some things might have blind spots on other things, but he's, I I think he's doing the Lord's work, man. I think it's very important. Again, you know, he is going a little deeper with a big audience, but I love it.

So I love all those guys. I think they're very important. I think comedy is very important to, uh, to spread the word. Now, if you go, who are the goat? Who's the goats of comedy, dude? Yeah. I, I have the, There's four guys I think reign supreme right now. And then I just had a new person come in and I'm being honest when I say this. So the heavyweight champ right now to me is Bill Burr. A lot of people think Bill Burr's got super progressive liberal.

I get him. I think he's always been that. If you study like his, his big, the thing that blew him up, which was his, him getting booed by Philadelphia and him not leaving the stage. If you study that rant, that rant's a pretty woke rant. If you think about it, he's yelling at Philadelphia about having a statue of Rocky Balboa up and not Joe Frazier, who's from the city. So I think he's always been that guy. We've become so divided now. It seems like he's super progressive. I love him.

I think he was a complete retard when it came to his take on LA Fires.

But that's okay because again he's a human being and we're we all have our weird blind spots then joe rogan is the i call him the the the don he's the mafia boss he can make anybody you know he's a juggernaut so he's the mob then the goat to me for right now but i'm i'm gonna get the king is david tell i think he's the best writer out there he he you know if you put all the best to your favorites in one room and David Tell in another room,

had them write five minutes on jokes, he would come out with the best jokes out of all of them. And then now the go, this is a real discussion right now. And I, this is going to sound crazy because forever I thought it was Dave Chappelle and I still to a point think it's Dave Chappelle. Nobody's had as long of a run as Dave Chappelle with so many hits as Dave Chappelle.

His older stuff is getting, you know, people are having some clean complaints about his older stuff, but it's like, dude, he's been in a game over 30 years. Like artists tend not to be the, the, the, have their pulse, you know, what is fresh and new after 30 years, there's supposed to be younger, younger artists coming through and pushing it.

But I do think Dave, Dave Chappelle is, is the goat, but somebody has just popped up in, in my, just on my radar that I love so much and I can't stop watching them.

And that's Maria Bamford, Maria Bamford to me there is an argument she's the greatest comic to ever do it and I know that sounds crazy because nobody ever talks about her but if you actually sit down and watch her stuff her stream of consciousness is so smart she's so smart and like her non sequiturs nobody sees them coming they're so beyond brilliant and I'm just such a huge fan she probably if she knew me and what my, what she believes my politics are, she probably wouldn't like me.

That's just life. Sometimes the people you love don't necessarily love you back. And that's, you know, I've learned this in recovery that people's opinion of me is not none of my business, you know, but she, I mean, if you ever get a chance to watch Maria Bamford, it is the most insane standup I've ever seen. Now here's a crazy little thing about her. I've been talking for a while, shut up, but do you know that Jeffrey Epstein had a summer camp?

For artistic children do you know who went to that camp maria bamford man what yeah and it was also terry cruz and there was another either actress or model went there so it's very interesting to me but yeah those are those are the people i love though those those five comics i think are doing it then there's a bunch of people that i think are up there with them like the sagoras you know Shane Gillis. I love Shane Gillis. He's a master of simplicity.

It's so incredible how he operates. There's a bunch of guys under that I think are just brilliant comics that I just really enjoy. I think comedy is in a great place right now. It's a spectrum. It's getting like music where you're just going to have these genres and people are going to love them. So that's my opinion. Well, coming from you, man, those are some great names to look into. I'm not familiar with Marie Bamford, but I'll definitely check her out.

And yeah, I got to see Chappelle once at Radio City in New York a few years back. It was definitely amazing. But you said so much great stuff, man. In the interest of saving time, I'll maybe just move on to my next question here. We do have two more. I think we had a hard stop. So however much we could fit in. So this might be a little bit more of a personal question, but you told me on your podcast that you're a registered libertarian.

And I know you've had a lot of guests on recently, Mark Passio, which I can't wait to watch that interview. But a lot of these people are in our liberty truth circles. There's a lot of overlap there. And many of them are anarchists. I know you're a smart guy. I know these guests you've had on your show had to have influenced you a bit. I know anarchy is a bit of a dirty word to the uneducated and maybe could, I don't know, make your career a lot more challenging in some ways.

Not trying to put you on the spot, but do you identify as an anarchist? If not, why not?

And I don't know, where do you sit with your political identity? that's a great question since you asked political identity i've been saying this lately i am a political anarchist to the point i'm a political nihilist i don't believe in any of these people i have zero faith in the system yeah and i'm kind of going on my own so when it comes to anarchy I think it's I'm for it I get very nervous when I apply It to the rules of our Society I.

It's because I think to get there is going to be really hard. You know, like there has to be like kind of this complete collapse in a weird way. You know, like the notion of like there shouldn't be any police or anything like that. I think ideally I agree with that to a point, but I've also seen what happens when the police don't get involved, how things tend to just devolve into complete chaos. So I'm open minded to all of it. I am very much as little government as possible.

I think the only purpose of government should be is to protect the people from the predator class and protect the people from the criminal class. Those should be the rules. Outside of that, I think people should be able to, I believe in as much pure capitalism as we could possibly get. I think we're in a world of crony capitalism right now. Yes. And you know, when Bill Burr goes, oh, fuck all these billionaires, they're making people poor and like everyone yells at him. He's 100% correct.

Like everything he's saying is 100% correct. I'm not mad if someone makes a billion dollars, honestly. But when you're completely effing the system, you're completely rigging the system, you're taking socialistic money from the government.

I I'm against all that dude you know like I live in I live in a part of Los Angeles where I can only get it's not a spectrum I can't get I can't go to AT&T to get internet I can only get spectrum that to me is crony capitalism yeah that is not free market I'm against that I hate spectrum's internet it's garbage you know so in terms of anarchy I'm open-minded to it sure and I I don't think it's bad. I just, I just don't have a lot of trust in allowing humans to, you know, I don't know, man.

I think if you put everybody to zero, eventually you'd find yourself in the same place where the, the super diabolical, the super smart or the super evil will manipulate. And then the people who have no clue how to operate in society, they'll fall to the wayside. So it's interesting. I'm open-minded to it. Awesome, because that's a perfect transition to what I was going to ask.

When it comes to the concept of anarchism or voluntarism or whatever, and we've had such a great conversation here, we always like to end it with a little bit of optimism and hope.

So what to you is the best way moving forward to really help people, not just in the comedy space or the journalism space, but just overall, continue to get these messages to people in a way that resonates with them, helps them wake up and really, you know, see the forest through the trees in a way to where we can really start moving forward in a way that actually starts to benefit society?

Well i'm going to tell you something again i i am white-pilled when it comes to this i think if they had their way we would all be chipped and we'd all be in 15-minute cities already and we would be just completely and utterly controlled more than we are right now even if you think we're all i mean there's way worse situations that we could be in so i think you should continue to do what you do and i think that you should you should be reaching out to maybe a little bit

more mainstream stuff get maybe maybe try and i try to do this too it's really hard but i try to get on the mainstream podcast i scare a lot of them even if they do believe everything i'm saying i scare them but i try to get on those man try to spread spread the word and you know you'll probably go to comment section and they'll probably call you dumb ass idiot it. Why is this retard here? But what you're doing is planting seeds, seeds of doubt into the system.

And that when it's going to take one thing that they're going to go, that doesn't make sense. That bang, they'll be like, I remember that guy that was on that podcast that said this. And then, then it starts to crumble. I think there's rule. I think there are rules to the universe and either you're getting closer to God or you're getting farther from God. And the closer you get to God, the higher vibrational you are. The farther you get from God, the lower vibrational you are.

And no matter how powerful you think whoever they are, Klaus Schwab, people we probably don't even know about, they're not bigger than the universe. They're not bigger than God. They're not bigger than the laws of how we're supposed to interact with each other, which is we're supposed to love each other and help each other and thrive. And. You know, I don't know if you've ever tried, and I'll wrap it up here. I don't know if you've ever tried to throw a birthday party or an event.

Very rarely does it go the way you want it to go. You tend to get to your destination, but man, you're like, is this train going to stay on the tracks? Well, there's a lot of people that think the WEF has everything on lockdown. And it's like, good luck trying to get the world to follow your rules.

When it trickles down you start to get into retards and idiots who can't execute anything so i think if i think we're winning i think even if it's incrementally i think that they if they were winning they would already have everything on lockdown they have to play by these weird occult rules they have to tell us everything they're doing and i think people are getting more and more savvy to what is going on and that's why i have hope for the future so you know don't don't try to change anybody.

If you really want to make change, you got to change yourself. You have to be the example of what the best possible humanity can be. And that's what you have to do. So by changing yourself, you should change others. By doing these podcasts and writing these articles and doing these tweets, you are an example to others about what is possible. And then they'll start to do what you're doing and then they'll get to their

place and then they'll start influencing people. And that's how you make change. That's how you make change. That's my opinion. You're not going to vote yourself out of it. It's a spiritual way. So the best way to do it is through actions, high vibrational actions, which show other people that they have to do high vibrational actions. Fucking great answer, dude. Insert an applause sample in there. Thank you.

Yeah, I think we need to, we talked about white pill, black pill, red pill, blue pill, all that. We need to, after that answer, we need like a fractal pill where we can reconnect our spirit to the earth and the universe and everything connected. Cause that's how we really do truly make progress, man. I'm with you guys for sure.

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Sam, dude, I know you got to go. Thank you so much for coming on today, dude. You know, despite all these heavy topics that we hit on today, you know, like the technocrats fucking tightened their grip. The war machine fucking society's mammal tendencies to follow liars and thieves to get them eaten by crocodiles. Right. You fucking dude, you still found a way to make us all laugh, dude. And that's a that's a rare gift, dude. It was really cool.

I know you said like at the beginning how, you know, you don't try to wake people up and you just reiterated that, you know, in that answer.

And I get that, dude. but you know your comedy your perspective and the way you break things down still have that effect you know so i like you said man there still is hope and i'm i'm white pilled with you right there dude thank you guys i appreciate it thank you so much for sure dude now if you want to tell everybody else you know where they could find you and what you got coming up man or how we can support your work yeah just go to sam triple e.com it's got all my dates and

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