Guest: Alexandra from Just The Inserts - How Big Pharma Undermines Informed Consent

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Well, I'm going to go ahead and get right into it. So this week, we are speaking to someone who probably values transparency as much as we do, if not more. Our guest has a wildly popular Instagram account and has been making the rounds on the podcast circuit. She's the founder of Just the Inserts, a platform that helps people navigate medical decisions with clear, accessible information. She has a strong research background and focuses on informed consent.

And she's dedicated to providing trustworthy guidance on pharmaceutical products, which has earned her recognition as a reliable voice in the community. So our guest today is Alexandra from Just the Inserts. Now, Alexandra, I know this is going to be a pretty awesome show because I mentioned to a few of my friends online that I was going to be interviewing you and they got really excited.

And even though I might not be as familiar with your work as they are, these are people who I definitely trust and respect, you know, their opinions and their judgment. So I know this is going to be a great conversation, but nevertheless, welcome to the show, Alexandra, and thanks for joining us. Thank you so much for having me. It sounds like you have some great friends. And as I was telling you before, I listened to one of your episodes this morning,

and I think that we're very well aligned. So I'm excited for our conversation today. As am I. And yeah, I've been looking forward to it. And, you know, as I just mentioned, I kind of touched on there for a second. Our mission here at the Free Thought Project has really been about accountability and transparency over the years and, you know, specifically within government.

And we've focused on highlighting, you know, the health risks that government and along with corporations and industries, you know, often keep hidden from us. And our goal this whole time has always been to provide accurate, honest information so people can make the best decisions for their own lives. And I believe that's exactly what you're doing with your own organization as well. And it should be noted that, you know, I'm not just referring to the vaccine industry here, guys, or big pharma.

These industries, you know, obviously, you know, could be heavily influenced by big business through lobbying, bribes, regulatory barriers. And the problem is bigger than that, though. It's kind of the whole system in general. And it's not just the politicians and lawmakers accepting these bribes.

But the whole system has these perverted incentives through the regulatory process, and it creates an environment where certain actors are protected from lawsuits, and it leads to compromise and a tumultuous system where various government agencies are influenced by corporate interests. So I'm sure we'll be diving deep into that today.

But first, though, as we do with many of our guests, Alexandra, I would like to hear your origin story, if that's possible, and what inspired you to create your organization, Just the Inserts. Absolutely. I love telling my story, but I also say that it's what started my story, which is what started Just the Inserts, but it's everybody else's story that kind of keeps me coming.

So I'm sure throughout our discussion today, the stories of medical professionals that reach out to me and the stories from parents and insurance claims, people that see all these different insurance claims come through their desk and how often and frequent these patients are not healing. So I am excited to hopefully as we start talking to share their stories too. But for my story, it actually started when I was active duty military.

My first assignment was the Pentagon, which was absolutely ludicrous that they sent a second lieutenant to the Pentagon for their first assignment. But I was just overworked. And anytime I had any kind of ailment, I was prescribed pharmaceutical and then told to get back to the mission because everything was about readiness. And I was a fairly healthy person. I was in my early 20s and I aced all of my fitness tests. I didn't have any comorbidities or issues or anything like that.

But I had an entire drawer full of prescription medications that I had gotten. Just throughout my five-year career. And I started experiencing some adverse reactions, realizing that some of these adverse reactions were worse than what I originally went to my military doctor for.

So it started to plant those seeds that didn't bloom until years later when I became a mother, that the products that might be easily available or within my insurance networks or what a doctor is prescribing might not be the best thing for me. It might be averaged out that might have the best situation in a best practice manner, but maybe not for me. And so when I was pregnant, I had already started dealing with those adverse reactions, one of them being severe adult acne.

I struggled with that for a very long time, and I probably developed a complication of anxiety and depression. A lot of people don't realize that acne can lead to that. And so I just overhauled my diet, my nutrition, my lifestyle. I got out of the military. I decreased my stress levels significantly. And I realized that nobody cares about my health except for me.

And even though there's public health initiatives and there are, you know, people that provide health care as a service, nobody's going to be as invested in my own personal health than myself. And so I started reading on my own and researching on my own. And I started to become very natural minded. And when I was pregnant with my first child in 2019, I was seeking to have a more natural-minded birth. And I ended up going to a midwife and I was at this midwife appointment and

she handed me a one-page sheet on the Tdap vaccine. So that's the vaccine for tetanus, diphtheria, and pertussis. And I remember thinking at the time, I'm not anti-vax, but this seems really weird. And even at that time, it's so funny because I didn't even really know what anti-vax meant, but I just thought, okay, well, I'm not against science. I'm not against the medical establishment, but this doesn't resonate with me. Let me research more. And so I ended up asking my mom to research it.

And she came back to me a few days later, just completely overwhelming information of how I would be killing myself and my baby if I accepted this product. And it was so much information so quickly that it shut my brain off and I couldn't adequately process the information that she provided to me. And so in an effort to prove her wrong, I found manufacturer inserts and I started reading them and I started researching them.

And then I started realizing that in order for these inserts to be accurate, in order for the manufacturers to know that sudden infant death syndrome is a potential adverse reaction to the DTaP vaccine, there has to be some larger. Potentially corrupted industries within our government and within the pharmaceutical, industry happening at play. And so I started researching those aspects of it. And I only stuck with .gov information.

And so I started just sharing everything because I was completely flabbergasted that nobody talked about this. Why was this not in common knowledge? Where were all the news reporters? And why was this so polarizing of a discussion to have? Why couldn't we have open and honest conversation. And so I just got shadow banned. I've lost friends. It was just really, really nasty. And this was before COVID. So this was in 2019. And so I ended up praying and asking God for guidance on what to do.

And he inspired me to start an account for just the inserts. And I wanted it to be anonymous. I wanted everyone to focus just on the inserts because I realized when I was sharing from my personal account that instead of people addressing the issues within the inserts, they were addressing me as a person and what I looked like and what I sounded like and where I lived. And I realized I didn't want any of that to be mixed up in the inserts.

So I stuck with just the inserts and I cited everything that I said, only did .gov information and the account blew up. And I was prepared for other parents to contact me because I knew that parents were trying to find this information, but I wasn't prepared with how many medical and scientific professionals contacted me and said, I was never taught this. I had no clue that this was sitting on the FDA, CDC, NIH website.

This is astounding to me. I need to research more. And I've actually had pharmaceutical employees reach out to me that have since left the pharmaceutical industry after finding my website and realizing that even they themselves aren't taught how to do this to learn what the manufacturers say about their own products.

So the account grew really big and then I realized that I didn't want to be Instagram with a website I wanted to be a website with an Instagram So I really started to transfer everything over to Instagram or to my website justtheinserts.com And thankfully I did that before the COVID-19 vaccines were mandated by the President Biden administration Because a week before that was announced I was deleted And I was told by Meta the reason for my deletion was for sharing.gov,

research and inserts because it encouraged vaccine hesitancy. Even though the information I was sharing was accurate, credible, and cited, it encouraged vaccine hesitancy, so I was no longer allowed to be on Instagram. So I was off for about eight months. I continually would try every now and again to get back on because I was also pregnant with my second child at that point, and I did not have the mental energy to fight with Instagram doing phony accounts

and all of other stuff. I just don't want to mess with it. And so amazingly enough, the day that Elon Musk bought Twitter, I was allowed to be back on Instagram. I don't know why, but I didn't ask too many questions. I got back on all my account, all my stuff had been wiped, but I just slowly started rebuilding my account. And then when I was pregnant with my third child last year, I decided, okay, despite what we're told, the internet isn't forever.

I need to put this all in a book. And so I published my first book and that is called well-considered a handbook for making informed medical decisions. And basically what I do is I just teach you how to find and read manufacturer inserts. And then I answer the question of why that's important and it's informed consent.

You need to be able to know what the government says about their products, what the manufacturers say about their products in order for you to make informed medical decisions, whether you accept, delay, or decline any or all medical products. That includes vaccines, blood products like Rhogram or antibodies, that includes prescriptions, over-the-counters, all of the above.

And I even take that same energy to the natural world too, when we're researching different healthcare modalities or like chiropractic care, naturopathic care, functional care, acupuncture. There are lots of government resources that, I mean, I would say it's probably flawed research, but there are some research there available where you can understand a little bit more about how that might fit with you and your lifestyle.

And also understanding that it's not You know, all chiropractors aren't the same. There's going to be different ones that focus on different things. So taking that same informed consent mindset and applying it to whatever you're seeking in your health care. Right. You don't want to just disavow big pharma just because they're big pharma. You have to apply that same level of skepticism to everything in life, right?

Right. Exactly. Because you could, I was talking with a friend of mine and she's very, very pro pharma, almost like definitely to a fault. She doesn't question anything. But then she did happen to reach out to a chiropractor because she has really bad sciatica. And I told her to search around and she just happened to go the one that's in the strip mall where it just says the big sign chiropractor. Not to say that that's bad, but that she didn't do any research and she had a horrible experience.

And I told her, well, find other ones. There's other ones out there that you can try to see that's best for pregnancy. This person probably might have not even been trained in pregnancy. So I do get attacked because I'm not blatantly, blindly accepting the medical product industry. But I also don't want anyone to assume that I'm just blindly accepting everything else in response to that. That's a great philosophy. Well, I mean, first of all, I got to give you credit on the name,

just the inserts. It's brilliant. Like, let's be honest, right? If most people actually sat down and read the inserts on some of these medications, they'd probably run the other direction, right? Like some of this shit, anal bleeding, death, suicidal ideation, all this stuff. And I also, I was also in the, in the military as well as in the Marine Corps for four years. And I swear during those four years, I was given more prescription medication.

I've been out for 25 years now, but I was given more prescription medication during that four-year period than I've taken in the last 25 years. It's absolutely mind-blowing. I was addicted to Percocet. I had my face smashed in when I was overseas in Kosovo, and I had to get reconstructive surgery when I got back to the United States, and they just kept dosing me with so many pills and everything, and I was just a zombie laying in my room for weeks on end just eating Percocets. It was So.

It was a crazy experience, but I was empathizing with you when you were telling your story. I'm like, wow, that's what they do. They just a pill mill.

They keep, it's the same too. Like I'm out now and I'm disabled. So I'm a disabled veteran and I go to the VA from time to time and all they want to do is just write you prescriptions for anything that you say. You know, like, are you feeling bad? We have a prescription for that. It's just so wild that it shows the, how tightly knit the government and big pharma actually are. Yes. Yes. That leaves me, you know, I want to get back to like just your inserts, your name.

It's just a basic question, right? Like out of all the pharmaceutical inserts you've come through, like what's the strangest or like most shocking or disturbing thing you've ever found? Was there something like, how is this even legal? That is, that is that. Oh man, that's okay. Well, maybe being military, you might resonate with this, but as I was reading some of these inserts, especially for the anthrax vaccine, the typhoid vaccine, or, you know, some of these other ones.

Male pattern baldness came up a lot and losing hair came up a lot. And I started thinking about how many people that I know in the military that are bald and that have hair thinning prematurely. I mean, people that I never expected in their early 20s were starting to do that. And I realized, you know, a lot of them were pilots. So I don't know if there's any correlation there, but that was one thing where I kind of, think, hmm, I wonder if there is some kind of cause and effect.

And then also I've noticed too, and again, I just want to be very clear. I am not a medical professional. This is just my personal opinion, reading hundreds of inserts and kind of putting puzzle pieces together just from my own anecdotal experience with people that I know. But one of the times I was talking with a friend of mine and he's very short in his family. All of his brothers and sisters are very tall.

And I remember him saying that when he was very young, his parents put him on Adderall because he was hyperactive. And I was reading in the Adderall insert that there is a known growth issues with putting children on Adderall. And so I told him, I said, I think I know why you're short because you were on Adderall for 10 years. And that might be a reason. So maybe you could like research this.

But the most to me alarming one that I've ever seen is definitely the sudden infant death syndrome for the Tdap vaccine or the DTaP vaccine, especially because the NIH states that babies in America are at the highest rate of SIDS at two, four, and six-month-old babies. And that's when the DTaP vaccine is on the CDC-recommended schedule. So that was pretty alarming to me. This is in the Tdap? In the InfantRex. Yeah, in the InfantRex insert. I believe it's page 11 or page

12 for the PDF. And it's the very last three words, sudden infant death syndrome. Wow. Yeah. The fact that it's actually listed is pretty, pretty crazy. And then, of course, you look at, you know, SSRIs or you look at Ambien or Valium or anything like that. Suicidal anxiety, depression, all of these things that the medication is meant to prevent. It can say at therapeutic doses, it could exasperate it. It could make it worse. Yeah. Man, well, God bless you for doing this work.

I mean, yeah, your story, it sounds like it comes from a place of, you know, it's not only a personal experience, but it's a place of concern for the greater humanity. And I don't know, I just don't feel like there's enough people that really dig into a lot of these details. And of course, you know, of course, you had people who were probably deeply indoctrinated, you know, challenging you and calling you crazy.

And of course, they're going to resort to every fallacy in the book and the insults and everything. But I mean, to me, it's crazy that you were only specifically focused on the .gov information. I mean, it makes things a little bit more challenging when people try to call you a conspiracy theorist, right? Like you're just having all these wild ideas. But no, no, no, you're actually pulling it from the government's own studies.

And that should be, although we do question the government, I believe that's something that's important that we do. But these studies oftentimes supposed to have, you know, some objectivity to them. And you would only assume that the government is only putting out information that they find to be valid. And I think pointing at that is a great strategy because you can't say, you know, people can't say and point to you as being some, you know,

wild eyed conspiracy theorist. So good on you for that.

And good on you for actually taking the initiative, kind of backing up here with your, your origin story. Good on you for, you know, taking the initiative to overall haul your own health. And that's one of the things that I don't feel like has been preached enough from the current Maha movement, the Make America Healthy Again movement, because it seems to me like a lot of people are just kind of pointing towards RFK Jr.

And saying, look, this guy's going to fix everything. the same kind of the same mentality kind of goes with elon and trump from what we could tell there's some good things happening but we can't just completely rely on these people to come save us right like no one's coming to save you except for yourself and it sounds like you had that epiphany and not only do you have that epiphany but you you know manifested your your actions to also,

correlate to that so good on you and and speaking about you know rfk and what's going on there Obviously, there's a lot right now of, you know. People really excited about the optimistic about Trump's due term in office. And, you know, again, we're trying to be as well. We're not trying to be overly critical. But it does feel like, you know, a lot of people are turning off their brains and not asking the critical critical questions.

And I know we have a lot to talk about today, but I do want to touch on some some of this RFK junior saga. Which, you know, kind of ended a couple of weeks ago when he was finally confirmed as the Department of Health and Human Services Secretary. And, you know, again, we're all for making America healthy, especially with the obesity epidemic and the ultra processed foods. And it's just the whole health care system is such a mess.

And so, you know, Bobby suggested he's going to ban seed oils and food dyes, which on the surface sounds like a good first step. Of course, we are libertarian, so we're not exactly thrilled about banning anything. But clearly something needs to change, right? But Kennedy has given us some mixed signals about his stances on vaccines. Obviously, he was highly critical of the COVID vaccine and Dr. Tony Fauci.

But just, you know, touching on like this kind of current cultural topic right now, I wanted to get your thoughts on RFK Jr. and the whole Maha movement. Like, are you feeling confident that Bobby will be able to kind of reimagine health in this country? And or do you think like you'll just be railroaded by a big industry trying to kind of push back against some of the suggestions. Oh, yeah, that's a definite for sure. There's no way that they've built this

entire industry only for it to go away in four years. So I am incredibly grateful. I'll be upfront. I'm super grateful for RFK Jr. because the climate in which I was operating on Instagram has completely changed since he started his presidential campaign.

And I've said before, too, that one of the reasons why I broke my anonymity is because here you had a presidential candidate making questioning medical products that were once mandated or tried to be mandated on the federal level, not even a few years ago, questionable and asking really hard questions about that. And so I do think that whether no matter what happens from now. His voice has helped our community at large to be able to have more open and respectful conversations.

At least I see that on Instagram. I see people that I never would have thought be curious just to even ask the questions. So I've been very busy for the last six months just answering people's questions and trying to give them clear, credible information, not trying to sway them one way or another, but just to provide them some more insight because they're tossed in these waves of people clamoring to convince them to accept delay or decline a product.

Whereas mine is, look, this is the information that's available. It's just what the manufacturer knows could happen. There's still a lot of unknowns that could happen. And trying to. Allow people and encourage them to step into that authority and responsibility that they have over themselves and their families. And so I will always be grateful for that. I do think that this last year will probably be studied for a very long time on the shift that happened just culturally.

However, I don't blindly trust anyone. And maybe that's more because I've been in the military and I've kind of seen behind the curtain of, you know, how it works in government. I've had to try to fire employees that were under me. I had 46 people that reported to me when I was active duty and they were federal civilians and they were enlisted and there were some contractors with different unions.

And so I know how hard and how thick that bureaucracy can be, especially in the national capital region. So he's got a lot that he's up against. And I have cautious optimism. I think that it's way better than what I could have ever imagined a year ago. If you would have asked me a year ago if any of this would have happened, I probably would have just laughed in your face.

So the fact that we're this far does give me hope, not necessarily for him as a person, but the people that have championed behind him and the people that have called their congressmen and women and said, we want him in. We want these changes happening. and I know that there's a lot of like infighting because people want certain things to happen right out the game and there are people that want things to go a certain way and I think that's healthy.

I think healthy discourse is a good thing. I don't really like group things so I'm glad that we have those discussions. However, I also know that no matter what we do, we are gonna be heavily criticized by those that are in the current system and want things to stay status quo.

So it's a matter of finding how we can come to the best decision with all of us bringing our own perspectives to the table while not tearing each other down and making us open to that criticism and giving more fodder to that.

But for me, what I see, and actually this kind of goes back to one of the most alarming things that I've seen on inserts, I worry about vaccines just in the sense of, especially for children and the adverse reactions that I see listed, especially like rotavirus vaccine, which is given to new babies, has death listed twice on it. And I've gotten just hundreds of messages from parents that have shared their experience with the rotavirus vaccine.

So there are definitely vaccines that I'm worried about and that I do personally think should be pulled off the market for further safety studies. But what I'm at this point more concerned about are the GLP-1s and the compounded semaglutides on the market. I was pretty. Critical of the hims and herds ad on the Super Bowl and how they kind of took that Maha messaging. And then their answer to the Maha movement was to make compounded semaglutide and generic medications more accessible and cheaper.

And to me, that is very dangerous. When you look at the psychology of that, it's very worrisome to me. So that is what I'm really kind of keeping a critical eye on. I'm definitely keeping an eye on everything with the vaccines and the schedule and everything that I've been saying for the last four years, especially. I was pretty vocally against the COVID-19 vaccines when they first started clinical trials and the fact that we needed to have way more time and there obviously had to be choice.

And when the masks mandates came out, I knew the instant that they came out that that was just a precursor to the vaccine mandates, I got hounded on social media constantly. And I did this graphic where I took a mask and then I put an equal sign to a vaccine because a mask is a medical product and a vaccine is a medical product.

And so if we would have fought back and said, okay, this is a medical product, we should be able to accept or decline this medical product, the vaccine mandates, in my opinion, would have never happened because we would have kind of championed that informed consent and medical choice before the vaccines even came to market.

But all of that saying, I'm more concerned about the GLP-1 market and how that is kind of going to be injected into certain parts of the MA movement as RFK kind of implements different policy changes.

Well, hindsight's always 20-20, right? And I have a feeling that if they do try to push some type of, well, let's just say virus, PSYOP, but if there was any type of. Push in that direction again, I think we're better prepared for it this time around, you know, because we've all learned a lot from a lot of the tactics and polita tricks that they used, you know, during those COVID years. But, you know, you touched on parents there a little bit.

I do want to get into, at some point, suggestions for parents and how to kind of navigate birth, childbirth and hospitals and stuff like that. But I think you're right. I think you made some great points there. And I do very much commend Bobby for really kind of pushing the culture forward. It wasn't just him, of course. I mean, it really was a lot of the right-wing kind of medical freedom advocates that kind of shifted the whole cultural conversation and did kind of move the ball forward there.

And to touch on your other points there, I mean, we're starting to see, I think we just covered it on the Free Thought Project a couple of days ago, a bit of a resurgence of the measles. They're kind of popping up here and there. And of course, the mainstream media isn't going to miss this opportunity to point the finger at Bobby and some of his anti-COVID vaccine stances over those years.

But it's ironic because he said, even during the confirmation hearings, that he's not completely anti-vaccine. But I just feel like the pushback, the condemnation against anti-vaxxers is still so strong within the mainstream apparatus that they have to, they have to use this opportunity to kind of push back and then point the finger at Bobby. And I think also, yeah, it's not surprising to me to see some of these companies kind of piggybacking on the Maha movement as well.

I mean, that's just another indicator that it has kind of culturally shifted and became a more prominent topic within our zeitgeist right now. So, but you did touch on, you know, doctors and your opener there when you're explaining your origin story and how they've reached out to you. And I kind of wanted to kind of dig in on that a little bit because I did find a quote of you on Google Images that was really powerful.

And it said, I created a space for open and respectful conversations about medical procedures. Amazingly enough, many medical professionals started reaching out to me, realizing that they'd never been informed or even what our own government and manufacturers say about some of these products. They realized that much of what they were taught in their formal education has been cherry picked.

I mean, God, isn't that the truth, right? So I was wondering if, yeah, you could expand on that a little bit and maybe share a few of the experiences of these doctors or medical professionals reaching out to you and what they found on your site and their experiences thereafter.

Oh, man, we could be here for hours. I so appreciate all of the medical professionals that have reached out to me because it does take an element of humility to realize what you invested the greater part of your adult life and hundreds of thousands of dollars into must be very hard to realize that you weren't taught everything that here me, not a medical professional, can just go on a doc of website and find.

That's going to be really, really hard. So for anybody who has made that realization, I just bravo. I honestly seriously respect every single one that has reached out to me because that's got to be so hard to do. One of the biggest things that I've noticed is I did a post about Benjamin Franklin and his son. And I normally don't really go that far deep into vaccine history or things like that, only when it starts to creep up into needing to have that important

historical context. Because what are we always told? We're always told, but polio, but tetanus, but smallpox. You know, we have to continue utilizing these products because of their proof of effectiveness in the past. And if we don't use these products anymore, it's we are foregoing our civic duty. We are putting others at risk. And so I had been talking with some medical professionals and they were telling me about they are taught two stories when they first learn about vaccines.

The first one is Benjamin Franklin's son and the smallpox vaccine, and the second one is Roald Dahl and his son with the measles. I believe it was his son. It was his child. And so I haven't done Roald Dahl's yet, but for the Benjamin Franklin one, I went back to the National Archives, and I actually read Benjamin Franklin's letters and some of the articles that he posted into the Philadelphia Gazette.

And I found the death announcement that he had for his four-year-old son, and he said that he regretted not using a smallpox inoculation. This was before the vaccine. So the smallpox vaccine wasn't created until 60 years later, but the practice before vaccines was they would take part of the smallpox from someone that was active in smallpox. They would cut open a healthy individual and put in part of the smallpox tissue.

And then hopefully that person would create some kind of immunity because they were exposed to the smallpox. And so they're taught this story that Benjamin Franklin's favorite son died of smallpox and his dying wish is that he wished he would have gone back and done this for his child. However, I started when I was reading Benjamin Franklin's letters and things that he had written for the paper, I started realizing that his child had been long struggling with flux, which is dysentery.

And so then I started reading more about dysentery, and I started realizing, okay, there's dehydration, there's all these other things. And then I started researching about the process of inoculation and how it came from England to the Americas. And they actually brought the inoculation practices to the same area where Benjamin Franklin's son died only a few years before he died.

And then I found all this other research on .gov resources that these inoculation practices were known to cause epidemics themselves. And so here I'm reading this and I'm starting to realize history is repeating itself. We are dealing with this when we look at some of the live vaccines, when we look at breakthrough infections for some of these vaccines. Here we're taught that this vaccine is infallible.

We're taught that if you accept it, it's an impossibility for you to be exposed to the disease after the fact. And that's not necessarily true, especially when you look at manufacturer inserts. There's sections about limitations of effectiveness. There's sections about shedding. And then realizing that this has kind of been from the genesis of inoculation of vaccination. And these are the stories that medical providers are taught, like day one in medical school.

And so when they are presented information that contradicts that kind of culture of vaccines being infallible, it's very hard for them to wrap their heads around. And so I did a post just going through Benjamin Franklin's documents on the National Archives and kind of walking through the history of that. And I just, my DMs blew up of medical professionals saying, I never even thought to look into this myself. I just blindly accepted this story from my professor and I never thought to verify it.

And really, to be honest, they don't have the time to do that. They are just shoved with so much information that there's no way for them to be able to go and verify everything that they're taught in medical school.

So that post I did, I did it because somebody had sent me a declaration form. They had sent me a vaccine refusal form. And it had said this story of Benjamin Franklin's son in an effort to deal with vaccine hesitant parents, but realizing it's not even historically accurate. Right. I did some digging back. Having children kind of spawned that same sort of research for me as well. And one thing I found was that all these vaccines, the overwhelming majority

of the vaccines were all released and credited. They were credited with getting rid of these diseases that they're for, right? But they were all released after the diseases had subsided in society. You can go look at these charts where it shows like smallpox, well, not smallpox, but rubella, whooping cough, measles, all this in the United States. And you can look at how the, like on this graph where they had declined almost non-existent.

And then here's the release of the vaccine. And that person is credited or that pharmaceutical company is credited with, you know, with saving millions of lives, despite the fact that the epidemic of that disease, that particular disease had come and gone already. Right. Well, I even saw it on X today. I think it was, I can't remember what doctor it is. Neil Stone, I think it is, where he posted a graph of measles and when measles was introduced.

And of course, the graph has a high case of measles right before the vaccine was introduced. And then it looks like, oh man, this vaccine saves so many lives. But then when you blow out, like he had just posted a cropped picture of the graph, because if you zoom out and you realize that measles was already way on the decline, it does. To me, that's where because I was trained in business, my school, you know, I was have a business degree. When I look at that, I'm like that to me.

Very shady. It's totally dishonest. It's very dishonest. And so if you are utilizing those tactics, to me, that's medical coercion, that's not informed consent. And so that's where I'm very vocal and I'm very adamant about those things. Because if you have a parent looking at that graph and thinking, oh my gosh, I would be negligent not to accept this product. That's where I have an issue is that coercion and dishonesty. And propaganda from the media, Right. Like this.

I'm just curious how this this poor child that died of measles, allegedly in Texas, how like through HIPAA and all this, that they were even able to get that information that his mom or dad come out and be like, he was unvaccinated and he died of measles. Like, how do they even how does the media even know his medical history? It's horrible. Yeah. Not to mention that we've covered plenty of measles outbreaks over the years of the Free Thought Project. One in particular was a U.S.

Naval ship that was quarantined at sea for three or four months because 100% of the entire ship had been vaccinated against measles, yet the entire ship was infected with measles. So, I mean, it just, it goes, it's just so wild, right? I mean, so we've kind of, we've kind of like touched on vaccines pretty, pretty good here.

I wanted to kind of shift gears to a little bit, like get your take on SSRIs. Mm-hmm. So like, these are a big deal to me. You know, there's been like 150 studies in 17 different countries with all these different side effects, ranging from suicidal ideation to homicidal ideation. There's, there's hundreds of regulatory warnings. The inserts on those are, like you said, are just freaking wild. Yeah. It takes a long time to go through them.

Yeah. Right. Right. And then like we've covered pretty significantly on the Free Thought Project, like a shocking number of mass shooters have been found to be on these drugs when they're, when they're killing people, you know, when they're carrying out these mass shooters, like David Katz and Marmoteen, James Holmes, crew, Nicholas Cruz, Steven Paddock. That's just like a few of them, right? Every time that there's a new mass shooting, you can almost guarantee that this

dude has been on an SSRI, right? And the side effects are listed right there in the insert. They're homicidal ideation, suicidal ideation. And that's what these people are doing, right? Right. It's not hard to see that pharmaceutical industry. They spend billions advertising these drugs and selling them to us. And I mean, every single major network shares a board member with at least one big pharma company. Right.

And we had RFK last week talking about banning pharmaceutical ads in the United States, which I'm kind of against. I think that's a violation of the First Amendment, you know, but like I'm mixed on that. You know, it does they do. It does do a lot of harm. But I think education is where that really should come from. Right. But I mean, it doesn't take away the fact that these people. 60 percent of all ads on TV are are pharmaceutical.

Right. And so anyway, you know, since you've dedicated all your work to the transparency and pharmaceuticals and whatnot, what what's your take on the on SSRIs? Like, have you found anything particularly disturbing and SSRI inserts that the public should know about? Oh, absolutely. Well, psychosis is listed as an adverse reaction. I did a post on Zoloft, and I don't know how many messages I got from people talking about having the difficulty to determine what is real and what is not real.

I mean, that to me, when you talk about active shooters and everything else, that should be, in my opinion, a clear indicator that those products need to be pulled for the market. If we know that there was someone that could not distinguish real from imaginary and they went to a school and had a shooting, in my opinion, that should be enough reason to pull them for more safety studies, especially with it listed on the adverse reaction.

And then, you know, obviously the suicidal thoughts and behaviors are. If you are on an antidepressant because you want to avoid that, that means, in my opinion, it's an ineffective product. And I've said this plenty of times before that we say safe and effective, safe and effective, safe and effective. That's constantly hounded into our vernacular, but I think it should be effective and safe.

It doesn't ring as easy as the other one, but we really need to start saying effective and safe because it doesn't matter if a product is safe. If it's not effective, why are we taking it? what it's not a good product on the market if it's not effective. So if the product is causing or potentially increasing the risk for what you're trying to prevent, then that's not an effective product. I probably might be unique in that thought process.

But again, like you too, I'm probably more libertarian in that aspect where I don't think we should blindly ban products. And this is something that I think some people in the Maha movement are very critical about, that they want products immediately banned as soon as RFK gets in there.

But then in the same breath, they're upset about previous administrations banning products like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin or all these other products that were banned because it was politically advantageous to do so. So we don't want that. We don't want that precedent to be continued. We want there to be a very clear, transparent process in which these products are regulated. That's what the FDA, CDC, or really the FDA is supposed to do.

And so for them to just blindly go in and say, well, we don't like this product because our consensuants don't like this product, that's not, we don't want that. Even if we agree with that, we don't want to set that precedent because that could easily shift if, you know, another person gets in that doesn't agree with whatever product we want to have on the market. I mean, we see that with homeopathy. FDA came down on homeopathy for homeopathy.

Products that are used in the eye and now I can't get my favorite eye drops, homeopathic eye drops because the FDA banned it. So we, you know, it's a give or take. And I think that's where maybe we can circle back to what we were talking about earlier.

In order for RFK to be successful in this, we need to continually stay active. We can't just outsource our change to him. He's just one person. We need to be continually communicating our standards of what we want these products to be on the market. Because if he doesn't have that from us and we're not communicating that to him, then he doesn't have that kind of power behind him to make those changes from within.

Great points. Excellent. Yeah. Excellent analysis. And oddly, it does seem like, yeah, they do listen when we speak out on Twitter. I know Sam Tripoli was just saying this last week. It seems like for whatever reason, Twitter is the one place where a lot of these government officials, health authorities, people of this such, they actually do care about being tagged and people tweeting about them and putting them on blast, you know? So it does, we still have that avenue open.

And I do think it's something that we should utilize. And we've seen even, you know, this current administration, we saw Don Trump Jr. When Mike Huckabee was supposed to be one of the cabinet members for the new Trump administration. I believe it was Dave Smith, the libertarian Dave Smith, who made a few tweets about it. And sure enough, Don Jr. was like, yeah, we got the message, like we're going to try to find somebody else.

And that's just, that's pretty miraculous that we're kind of in this age of information where we can express ourselves. And if there's enough support, if there's enough retweets, if there's enough people commenting and, and pointing at, you know, that the focus of whatever the tweets about that, you know, some of these people will actually adjust their positions and try to at least try to appease the public who knows what they're doing behind the scenes, of course, right?

We are getting low on time here. And I know I mentioned, you know, talking about the hospital setting and new parents and stuff like that, because I know when my five-year-old boy was born in a hospital setting, we were a bit nervous and kind of overwhelmed about the whole process, right? Like, you know, what if the nurses get mad if we've rejected some type of standard procedure? Because they're used to just giving the infants their vaccine schedules,

right? Like they're used to the vitamin K injection and so on and all these different things. And if you're the kind of the outlier who's pushing back against that, I mean, we hear horror stories about, you know, that you get put on some type of list. And I know many people I've spoken to over the years that are a bit wary of the medical system have asked me as a parent, like what I suggest is the best way to navigate rejecting these things.

So I was going to ask you, I don't know if this is quite, you know, your focus. I mean, obviously you kind of have a big range of things that you do with just the inserts, But maybe you could provide some insight here. Like, what advice do you have for parents trying to make informed decisions for their children's health care?

And how can they, like, navigate the pressures to kind of go along with some of these mainstream recommendations, especially while in the hospital setting and looking, you know, eye to eye with nurses who might believe, legitimately believe that some of these vaccinations are necessary? Yeah, that's such a great question. And I think it's incredibly important, especially as parents, because we're the advocates for our children.

I think ideal scenario is to be extremely proactive in the health care that you choose. And that includes the hospital that you choose. Some, depending on your state, if you walk through the doors of that hospital, you are automatically accepting the hospital policies. So make sure you read the fine print. Make sure you search around for hospitals. I know that we think that hospitals are charity. They're not.

They're a service. And so you being an informed consumer have the right to shop around and try to find a place that will honor informed consent and parental choice. I think it's important to understand your state's definition of medical neglect. If a medical provider is threatening CPS on you, that most likely will be under medical neglect. So for you to understand what your state's definition is, that is incredibly important as well.

I'm in the state of Virginia or the Commonwealth of Virginia, and it's in our definition that medical neglect is not preventative care, including well baby visits and vaccines. So I know that if I'm ever in a situation where I'm in the ER or something and my child is, they try to put the flu shot on him because it happens to come up in their to-do list to check off and they threaten CPS, I know that they can't do that because it's not in the definition of medical neglect.

So I think that's more important just for you to be able to make those confident decisions. And, you know, you don't have to be hostile about it. It doesn't have to be this you against them situation, but it is good for you to be aware of that. And then also too for. If you are accepting pediatrician, you don't have to go to a pediatrician. You can find a family doctor or some other doctor in your area.

But if you do decide to go to the pediatrician route, asking them questions about healing, asking them questions about how they see the physiological body and how healing is accomplished. Is it accomplished only through a pharmaceutical or can healing also be accomplished through lifestyle, nutrition, sleep, things like that? And maybe integrative or functional medicine might be a better option for you if you don't want to only have pharmaceuticals available to you.

Because most of the time when you go to a pediatrician, they've been trained that pharmaceuticals are going to be the first course of action. And then also, too, if you do go with a pediatrician, they are most likely following the CDC-recommended vaccination schedule. So you can go and look up before you even go to an appointment, what are the vaccines that are recommended by the CDC, therefore will be recommended by your pediatrician at that well-baby visit.

So if it's two months old, okay, I know that these vaccines are recommended. I'm going to read the inserts for these vaccines before I go to the pediatrician's office because an average pediatrician visit is only 10 minutes and there is no way the pediatrician can properly provide informed consent to you while also going through milestone delays, going through speech delay, going through all these other things that you have to talk about in your pediatrician's appointment.

So it's better for you to do that research upfront. You can call your pediatrician's office and say, hey, I know that my child has this four-month well-baby visit, and I know that the CDC recommends these vaccines. Can you tell me which manufacturer, which training this pediatrician offers. So then you know exactly which vaccine to research. There are several different types of manufacturers for each vaccine. So if you research Daptacil for the DTaP vaccine, but then you go for your child

and they give you the Infinrix one, then there's an issue. You're not going to be informed because it's not the same product. So I actually go through in my website, if you're completely overwhelmed listening right now, I go through on my website. I have a free training course and I go, of course, in my book as well of how to find and read manufacturer inserts.

I take every single section of every part of the insert and I provide context from DACA resources of, okay, the CDC says that the definition of an adverse reaction is an undesirable medical condition that is known to be caused by a vaccine. Okay, so now I know that all the reactions that are listed in preclinical, clinical, and post-marketing adverse reaction sections, that these adverse reactions have been known to be caused by the vaccine.

So now when I have that conversation with my pediatrician, I can say, I'm really worried about these adverse reactions. Can you talk about those with me? And it's important too, I recommend people. When you go talk with a pediatrician, they are trained that if you present any information other than a .gov resource, they won't listen to anything you have to say. So if you do, and that's just being honest, if you do consume my content, don't say you got it from justtheinserts.com.

Pull up the actual inserts. Go to the actual source. Go to the .gov resources because you are going to have a much more productive conversation with them than if you said, I found this person on Instagram. Even though most of my stuff is from a DACA resource, they won't listen to what you have to say, unfortunately. Ain't that the truth? Boy, excellent suggestions there. And yeah, very much appreciate that. I feel like that will give our listeners a place to start at the very least.

So thank you for that. And you mentioned your book there.

I know you mentioned it at the beginning of the podcast as well. I did want to just give you a moment to touch on that. And, you know, the book that you've written is called Well-Considered. From what I could tell, it was published in October of last year. Is that right? Let's see. Gosh, July. July. Okay. Yes. You know, I'm assuming it's a great resource for anybody looking to make more informed decisions about their health.

But can you maybe explain a little bit more, like what the inspiration behind the book was, what readers can expect from it? And yeah, feel free to plug it as much as you want. Absolutely. Yeah. So I'm a very visual person. I like to see, obviously, from my Instagram, I like to see things kind of in a visual manner. So I actually took screenshots from .gov resources. So when you go through the book, it's half manual and then half pep talk. So the first part of the book is very science heavy.

It's very .gov heavy on, you know, what are the inserts? What does the FDA say is the criteria in order for adverse reactions to be listed in the postmarketing adverse reaction section? What is a contraindication? What is these passive surveillance system? And then I talk about some more of that contextual, important information like the National Childhood Vaccination Act of 1986. I actually pull the legislation and we go through it together and we break it down.

What does this mean that a manufacturer for a vaccine might not be held liable for an adverse reaction? And if there is someone that does experience an adverse reaction or death, how are they compensated? And, you know, I talk through, okay, it's compensated by a tax on every single vaccine. So if you're accepting a vaccine, part of what you're paying through your insurance goes towards an injury compensation program to pay for vaccine injury and death, not the manufacturers.

And I think that's important to know, especially when we start talking about financial conflicts of interest at the clinician and at the federal level. So the first part is very heavy in that. And the second part is just, like I said, a pep talk. It's just about you being an informed consumer, no matter whether you accept delay or decline, that you just need to be informed about the products that you accept.

Because if you accept them, then you can expedite treatment, you can eliminate diagnostic confusion, and then maybe you can make more informed decisions on subsequent products or doses. And then if you delay that product, it gives you options of. Maybe seeking out other alternatives, either in the pharmaceutical industry or alternative industries. And then if you delay that product, unfortunately, those that delay have to jump through extra hoops.

So I talk about mandates. I talk about exemptions. I talk about the different things that, unfortunately, public health campaigns have utterly failed at educating the public on that many states have it in our legislation, the protection to be able to exercise religious personal medical exemptions. So I kind of teach you how to find the information based on where you lived. I got to get that book. Send me your address and I'll mail it to both of you.

Oh, that's awesome. That's really cool. Yeah, it sounds really interesting. And I need a refresher in all this stuff. We've been, I've been out of the loop for a little while since my kids are older. We already, we're setting our ways, you know, like we already know what to do in instances like that. But I want to delve back in and take a look at it. That sounds very interesting.

Well, thank you. And I purposely made it to where it takes about two to three hours to go to because you could really, I could have done an encyclopedia, but no parent's going to read that. So it's purposely short and hopefully digestible enough for you can consume all the information. It's just the inserts, right? Yeah, exactly. Hey, Freethinkers, this is Matt Agorist, and I'm going to take a quick pause to remind you of something really important.

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I don't know anybody else who's doing that, especially in this time when Big Pharma is spending tens and hundreds of billions to sway society in the exact opposite direction, right?

I mean, we just saw that, like you mentioned that earlier, we saw that on full display during the Super Bowl where that fucking creepy Orwellian Hemshurst commercial ran pushing those the semi-glutides and i was like wait what is this what is this commercial like i thought because the beginning of it was like man this is resonating with me and then at the end they like boom we got you take these pharmaceuticals from us yeah

what the fuck i think all of us are doing that collectively across the entire nation right i mean the the level of pharmaceutical propaganda we're up against is proven by that commercial it's staggering right Right. So that's why I'm so glad you stumbled into this project. And it really seems like you're the perfect person to be doing this. You know, you got a real depth of knowledge for it and your ability to break

down this information in an actual way to help people is it's rare. It's needed to. I know you're launching a provider directory soon. At least that's what your publicist told us, which sounds like an amazing tool for people to look, to use, to find informed, consent-friendly doctors.

Can you tell us more about that just as a closer? And then of course, we'll, you want to let people know where they can follow and support your work as well. Yep. So basically it came out of my own desire when I was realizing that I couldn't really operate within the pediatrician network, trying to find other people out there. It was really hard.

I had to go through all of these kind of underground directories and went through pediatrician and provider after provider and realizing how hard it is. And so really, it's just a pro-informed consent provider directory. Providers opt in. As long as they honor informed consent for all of their patients, for all medical products, including vaccines, they can be added for free. And then there is a small like $7 a month to access it because it's an interactive map.

Think Zillow functionality to be able to just quickly go on, look at your area. Okay. These are providers that have opted in. I'm going to try these out. And then you have the option to leave reviews so that we can keep, you know, the providers accountable. And I'm really excited about the project and hopefully it'll continue to grow as more and more people realize that they have the right to inform consent as a human right. And it's for every parent and patient out there.

That's amazing. So, so we want to let people know where they could follow. Just the inserts.com. Super simple. Everything's linked there. And then on X and Instagram, just the inserts. Hell yeah. Well, Alexander, thank you so much. This has been like a super enlightening conversation and a really good one that I think our listeners are, I know our listeners are gonna certainly enjoy. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for having me. I truly appreciate it. Awesome. Music.