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The Fourth Way

The Fourth Way
A podcast focusing on issues related to nonviolence, and a member of the Kingdom Outpost.
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Episodes

(32) S2E9 Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Love

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.d...

Jan 24, 202037 minSeason 2Ep. 9

(31) S2E8 Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Generosity

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.d...

Jan 17, 202031 minSeason 2Ep. 8

(30) S2E7 Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Forgiveness

*I realized that my statement on hospitality may not be taken graciously or with a full attempt to understand, so I felt the need to have an extended explanation here. It's important to note that I am not saying the only sin of Sodom was lacking hospitality, but simply that it was one aspect of the problem. Ezekiel 16:49 perhaps encompasses this idea the best, as it declares the sin of Sodom to be, at least in part, their lack of concern and assistance for the poor and needy. Unfortunately, many...

Jan 10, 202035 minSeason 2Ep. 7

(29) S2E6 Consequentialism: My Consequentialist Ethic and Grace

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.d...

Jan 03, 202043 minSeason 2Ep. 6

(28) S2E5 Christianity Today's Article and Betrayal

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Christianity Today Article: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2019/december-web-only/trump-should-be-removed-from-office.html Dr. Dobson's Response to CT: http://christiannewswire.com/news/4551683350.html Jentezen Franklin's Response to CT: https://www.christianpost.com/voice/why-i-still-stand-by-45-pr...

Dec 27, 201933 minSeason 2Ep. 5

(27) S2E4 Consequentialism: The Negative Ethic in the Bible

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/category/pragmatism-and-consequentialism Who Was Pont...

Dec 20, 201933 minSeason 2Ep. 4

(26) S2E3 Consequentialism: Problems with the Lesser of Two Evils Ethic

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.d...

Dec 13, 201927 minSeason 2Ep. 3

(25) S2E2 Consequentialism: The Positive Christian Ethic

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.d...

Dec 13, 201918 minSeason 2Ep. 2

(24) S2E1 Consequentialism: The Heart of Compromise

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Thanks to Palmtoptiger17 for the beautiful logo: https://www.instagram.com/palmtoptiger17/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The 80% (My Book): https://www.amazon.com/80-Conservative-Evangelicals-Prove-Relativists-ebook/dp/B07RDPW2NZ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=j.g.+elliot&qid=1573560697&sr=8-1 Various reflections related to consequentialism: https://www.d...

Dec 06, 201945 minSeason 2Ep. 1

(23) S1E23The Case for Christian Nonviolence: Conclusion

I strongly recommend checking out the "City of Refuge" podcast. I think the story encompasses all I've talked about so far. You can see how Christians justify killing Christians, how the teachings of Christ compel over force, how God's hand orchestrates miraculous salvation through seemingly pointless suffering and death of those who implement faithful obedience, how evil so often stems from consequentialist ethics, etc. It really all comes out in this story. If you want to just have a list of a...

Nov 29, 201933 minSeason 1Ep. 23

(22) S1E22 The Case for Christian Nonviolence: Resource Recommendations

I strongly recommend checking out the "City of Refuge" podcast. I think the story encompasses all I've talked about so far. You can see how Christians justify killing Christians, how the teachings of Christ compel over force, how God's hand orchestrates miraculous salvation through seemingly pointless suffering and death of those who implement faithful obedience, how evil so often stems from consequentialist ethics, etc. It really all comes out in this story. If you want to just have a list of a...

Nov 27, 201918 minSeason 1Ep. 22

(21) S1E21 Rebuttal: Responding to C.S. Lewis's "Why I Am Not a Pacifist"

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Why I Am Not a Pacifist (1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2xY2k26HFo Why I Am Not a Pacifist (2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jreq3mVvDgc Lewis's Arguments and Further Resources #1a - Pacifism is Ineffective: Episode 4 https://thefourthway.transistor.fm/episodes/the-case-for-christian-nonviolence-logic-and-intuitio...

Nov 22, 201931 minSeason 1Ep. 21

(20) S1E20 Rebuttal: Would You Really Allow an Intruder to Harm Your Family? (Part 2- the Practical)

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Irresistible Revolution by Shane Claiborne: https://www.amazon.com/Irresistible-Revolution-Updated-Expanded-Ordinary-ebook/dp/B00UF72BAK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=irresistible+revolution&qid=1569093639&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 What Would You Do?: https://www.amazon.com/What-Would-John-Howard-Yoder-ebook/dp/B00AAX11H...

Nov 15, 20191 hr 7 minSeason 1Ep. 20

1:19 (19) Rebuttal: Would You Really Allow an Intruder to Harm Your Family? (Part 1- the Moral)

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Irresistible Revolution by Shane Claiborne: https://www.amazon.com/Irresistible-Revolution-Updated-Expanded-Ordinary-ebook/dp/B00UF72BAK/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=irresistible+revolution&qid=1569093639&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 What Would You Do?: https://www.amazon.com/What-Would-John-Howard-Yoder-ebook/dp/B00AAX11H...

Nov 15, 201932 minSeason 1Ep. 19

(18) S1E18 Rebuttal: Violence is Sometimes Necessary

*Please excuse the sound quality on this episode. There was some interference on this recording which influenced the sound quality. A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Kingdom Depicting Cyclical Violence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-uj0vQ-c6k Does ISIS Prove Nonviolence Wrong?: https://www.plough.com/en/topics/justice/nonviolence/does-isis-prove-no...

Nov 08, 201916 minSeason 1Ep. 18

(17) S1E17 Rebuttal: The New Holocaust

*Please excuse the sound quality on this episode. There was some interference on this recording which influenced the sound quality. A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Why Civil Resistance Works: https://www.ericachenoweth.com/research/wcrw Gene Sharp Books: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=gene+sharp&ref=nb_sb_noss_2 Hannah Arendt on the Banality of Evil: htt...

Nov 08, 201936 minSeason 1Ep. 17

(16) S1E16 Rebuttal: The Nonviolent Position Devalues the Sacrifice of Soldiers

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Patton Speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCA6uxQE-bw Killing from the Inside Out: Moral Injury and Just War: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Inside-Out-Moral-Injury-ebook/dp/B00NVN93EM/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=killing+from+the+inside+out&qid=1568229887&s=gateway&sr=8-1 War and Moral Injury: https://www.amazon.c...

Nov 01, 201932 minSeason 1Ep. 16

(15) S1E15 Rebuttal: Christians in the Roman Army

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Thanks to our monthly supporters Phillip Mast patrick H Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★...

Oct 25, 201915 minSeason 1Ep. 15

(14) S1E14 Rebuttal: Jesus Advocates Violence in his Command to Buy Swords

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Naked Bible Podcast with Guest David Burnett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3Q1HBZbyM8 Thanks to our monthly supporters Phillip Mast patrick H Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★...

Oct 18, 201925 minSeason 1Ep. 14

(13) S1E13 Rebuttal: Romans 13 Part 2

*I didn't do a good job of explaining this in the episode, but there are a very broad range of views pacifists take as to what participation in government looks like. I am still not sure where I stand. The view I present in this episode is more of a pendulum swing all the way to one side - showing what the extreme may look like. From there you can figure out where you lie on the spectrum, between the far end of pacifism, and the other end of fully embracing just war theory. A huge thanks to Jose...

Oct 11, 20191 hr 36 minSeason 1Ep. 13

(12) S1E12 Rebuttal: Romans 13 Part 1

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 A fantastic, concise summary by Preston Sprinkle, covering much of what was said in this podcast: https://www.patheos.com/blogs/theologyintheraw/2015/12/romans-13-doesnt-tell-christians-to-kill-their-enemy/ Tim Mackie's outline of politics in the Bible, including a great section on the context surrounding Romans 13: http:/...

Oct 04, 201958 minSeason 1Ep. 12

(11) S1E11 Rebuttal: The Violent Book of Revelation

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Revelation Word Study (blood, lion, and sword): https://drive.google.com/open?id=16bft8PtcyLns1JCrO-QUbBR8QEHOO413 The Bible Project Revelation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nvVVcYD-0w John Nelson Darby and the Rapture: https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/people/pastorsandpreachers/john-nelson-darby.html Mark of ...

Sep 27, 201930 minSeason 1Ep. 11

(10) S1E10 Rebuttal: Violence in the Bible Disproves Nonviolence #2

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Greg Boyd’s “The Crucifixion of the Warrior God:” https://www.amazon.com/Crucifixion-Warrior-God-Volumes-ebook/dp/B06XRL77G1/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Crucifixion+of+the+warrior+god&qid=1566062395&s=gateway&sr=8-2 Boyd’s shorter version called “Cross Vision:” https://www.amazon.com/Cross-Vision-Crucifixion-Testament-...

Sep 20, 201929 minSeason 1Ep. 10

(9) S1E9 Rebuttal: Violence in the Bible Disproves Nonviolence #1

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 For a GREAT, but deep read on how a non-violent God is not necessary for a nonviolent position, check out DARRIN W. SNYDER BELOUSEK's work entitled " God and Nonviolence: Creedal Theology and Christian Ethics:" https://www.academia.edu/5671308/God_and_Nonviolence_Creedal_Theology_and_Christian_Ethics Representative Matt Sh...

Sep 20, 201918 minSeason 1Ep. 9

(8) S1E8 Rebuttal: Jesus's Nonviolence was Purely a Messianic Role

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 The Politics of Jesus: https://www.amazon.com/Politics-Jesus-John-Howard-Yoder/dp/0802807348/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=the+politics+of+Jesus&qid=1566062176&s=gateway&sr=8-2 Derek’s summary of the “Politics of Jesus”: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/the-politics-of-jesus The Upside Down Kingdom: htt...

Sep 13, 201921 minSeason 1Ep. 8

(7) S1E7 Rebuttal: Nonviolence is Evil in its Refusal to do Good

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Thanks to our monthly supporters Phillip Mast patrick H Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★...

Sep 06, 201929 minSeason 1Ep. 7

(6) S1E6 Rebuttal: Jesus's Anger and John's Silence

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Thanks to our monthly supporters Phillip Mast patrick H Laverne Miller Jesse Killion ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★...

Sep 06, 201914 minSeason 1Ep. 6

(5) S1E5 The Case for Christian Nonviolence: The Real World

*Excuse the mispronunciation of "Goethe." I have since been educated more. A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Waging Nonviolence: https://wagingnonviolence.org/ Amish shooting and forgiveness: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/02/amish-shooting-10-year-anniversary-pennsylvania-the-happening Good Article on Amish Myths and Lifestyle: https://www.h...

Aug 30, 201948 minSeason 1Ep. 5

(4) S1E4 The Case for Christian Nonviolence: Logic and Intuition

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 “Men Against Fire”: https://www.amazon.com/Men-Against-Fire-Problem-Command-ebook/dp/B00A8I385I/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=s.l.a.+marshall&qid=1564776265&s=gateway&sr=8-1 “On Killing”: https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Psychological-Cost-Learning-Society/dp/B0056NVXXO/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=on+killing&qid=1564776301&amp...

Aug 24, 20191 hr 4 minSeason 1Ep. 4

(3) S1E3The Case for Christian Nonviolence: Historical Evidence

A huge thanks to Joseph McDade for his generous permission to use his music: https://josephmcdade.com/ Discord Discussion Board: https://disboard.org/server/474580298630430751 Support us through Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thefourthway My site with quotes: https://www.dckreider.com/blog-theological-musings/arguments-for-christian-pacifism-4-teaching-of-the-early-church “The Early Church on Killing:" https://www.amazon.com/Early-Church-Killing-Comprehensive-Sourcebook-ebook/dp/B008846P1I/ref...

Aug 17, 201942 minSeason 1Ep. 3
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