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It's it's great to go. I'm sorry, go ahead. I was just gonna say good to hear your voice. Yeah, it's We've been chatting back and forth and been looking to this. This is the first time we actually have had a couple on this podcast, and I've been looking forward to this. And one thing that I have noticed over the years of interviewing and talking to certain people, I would say more than ninety percent of the time when I have conversations like this, the spouse is usually just about his on par
with quote unquote being awake as the other. And now, of course they may have some slight differences, and maybe we can talk about that as well, But for the most part, I've noticed through the years that if one person is open to things like flat earth at nine to eleven JFK at the other one as well. Have have your guys, Well, I'm jumping ahead of myself asking you about your wakening process, but please go ahead and introduce yourself to everyone before I go down that road. Sorry, Well, I'm
Walker, and this is my beautiful wife, Megan. Hello. Yeah. Yeah, we've been together for like eleven and a half years or something, married for a year and a half and uh we Yeah, I was just gonna say we spent a big portion of that being heavelously. We definitely drank way more than we needed to daily, which now I see that as what it was. Um. I just feel like alcohol, especially for us, was just a poison that was a haze keeping us um docile or keeping us
on a lower vibration for sure. But our waking up process started with like us quitting drinking and getting healthier, and we've both been kind of on different levels of waking up. He well, I basically started I would stay with um us getting pregnant, which my daughter is our daughter is a little bit older than or now. But I went down a birth rabbit hole of there's a documentary called The Business of Being Born, and I had watched that,
which kind of spurred me down this whole thing. And I just remember being like, oh, I wonder about the whole anti vax thing, because that's just another programming that people kind of like laugh at or what have you. And I looked into that and I definitely came to him with that information because I went down deep into everything that's in every shot that we basically are just
supposed to assume it is good for our children or good for us. And I honestly, I can even tell you all the shots I've gotten throughout my life, but I haven't since I've woken up. But yeah, I'm right there with you. Somebody had emailed me a week or two ago saying that you're in the army for twenty some years, how many vaccines do you think he got? And I sat down and I said, well, I get the flu shot is mandatory every year, so there's there's twenty right there.
Yeah, right, And then of course that the anthrax was a series of six, so that put me at twenty six, not counting all the rest of them. And any time before you deployed, you'd go through this little medical cycle and you'd get tagged and basic training, we probably got tagged with seventy eight. I saw, my goodness, I at least had fifty or sixty. And then you know, going back and remembering what I read, and I don't know if you guys have checked out used to Smullen's murder by
injection. I haven't had anything injected to me since I've retired from the military, so and I feel much healthier for it. Yeah, for sure. Have you done any like heavy metal detoxing and stuff toour a little bit? I actually there was a I'm trying to remember what the actual herb was. It's green powder that you're supposed to mix in your drinks. I used too much and almost poisoned myself. I just was like, Oh, this stuff's
supposed to be good for you. Every morning, I have this like a vegetable vegetable powder mix for breakfast, and I started adding that to it, and I wasn't feeling right. I never took the time to actually look to see how much you're supposed to be taking, and it was supposed to be a very minuscule amount. I was stoning in like half a teaspoon at a time. I'm like poisoning myself. But you know, maybe it works because
I was sweating out the bottom of my feet. Probably. I know a lot of those work in a way where they just pull the metals straight out, which oftentimes means a lot of the other minerals in your body too. So everything just starts running funny, you start feel like crap exactly. Yeah, anytime you detox, your body's going to be a little wonky, that's for sure. And you know, I understand exactly what you were talking about as far as drinking, because you know, it's you know, anybody.
You know, I've said many times as far as PTSD and things like that, you don't have to be in the military. There's people who've been in vehicle accidents, you know, parenting, you know, people who have terrible parents. And I for a while too, during the military, I would use alcohol to help me forget some things. But at the end of the day, I realized it was a crutch and it wasn't fixing the problem. It was just a temporary band aid. So like yourself, I was like,
you know, I need to face this head on. And that was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life as well, So good on you guys for that, Thank you too. Yeah, that was that was a huge and that was the biggest part of my awakening for sure, is the quitting drinking entirely, because if I didn't quit drink, and I'd probably be dead right now. I drank myself diabetic Oh, my goodness.
So he's been healing himself, which has been I mean, he lost a lot of weight too, but he's been getting healthy this whole time as well. That's awesome to hear. So tell me a little bit about your awakening process and was it hand in hand? Did you guys kind of wake up as a couple together. I know you started to looking about childbirth and things of that nature. Was that really one of the first big rabbit holes
that you encountered? Are you there? Let me just pause for saying okay, and we're back, a little technical glitch, but we were back, and we were just talking about the awakening process and if you guys woke up together, go ahead and take the floor, folks. Yeah, So I was just going to explain. So my actually grew up and my steph dad would always talk about nine to eleven being inside job and that we never went
to the moon. And literally I just like grew up and seeing everyone in our family like laugh at him and just miss him about it, and like now he like never brings up anything, but fast forward, we recently were like, hey, just so you know, you're right about the moon. And then he basically was like I just stopped looking because then you're going to
drive yourself crazy. And I was like, but that then you can't go back to sleep, like to sleep once you're awake, right, And then I'm hoping he's looking up more stuff now but will slowly point both seeds. But um, basically I so I always kind of entertain those thoughts, um, and like dove into those with him. UM, but I never got
anything got any deeper with it. Um. And then fast forward then with uh learning about like the birth process and um, how we basically have been made to fear birth itself when it's the most natural thing a woman's body can it's made for. But um, then now we've kind of been just finding rabbit hole after rabbit hole together, um and diving deep into different things.
But um, I think the COVID that the COVID vaccine because my work was trying tom I work, and I won't say where, but like I have a state government job, and basically they were trying to make it so everyone got the JAB and I was like the only one at my place of work that didn't, and I was actually like forced to go to well and now I would fight it, but I wasn't comfortable at the time because I was
still new to waking up to this. But I had to go to and get tested every week, and maybe it's like I went to this one a facility and they basically just dabbed a little cute tip, didn't even like put it in deep, so it was just really just a pointless thing. But they paid for me to to go do it every week, and I had to do that for how long was that? Probably like six months straight?
But but yeah, so that was kind of because at one point I was ready to just like, Oh, I'm just gonna go do this because they're pressing me and I'm like, I'm just sick of hearing about it. Yeah, and then Walker's like, are you seriously thinking about doing it? Just because of that, like come on, and he had already learned more about it, and then I kind of had that that breakdown moment of like, well, why are they trying to do this? And then looking at the
bigger picture. But so he helped me and he was patient in that way for sure. Well that's awesome. That's did you try to at one point? Because that story kinda is very much in line of what my wife went through. She put in a religious exemption and it got denied. She worked for one of the biggest hospital chains here in Delawares called Bay Health, and her and a lot of her co workers put in religious exemptions and each and
every one of them got denied. And then she ended up quitting because they were making her do the same thing, getting tested every week, and they were making her life very miserable. And she said I had enough, so she ended up walking away from her job. I ended up calling them. It was in one of my podcasts last year. I don't maybe it was in the summertime while I was doing radio and I talked to their PR person and I said, let me ask you a question. Who is on these
boards for religious exemptions? Are these Catholics looking at Protestants? Could you even tell me how this religious exemption board work? And they refused it. They refused to answer my question. I'm like, are you guys just automatically declining it? But they were cowards. They wouldn't answer the question whatsoever. That's unbelievable. Oh, I guess it's believable, but it's ridiculous unbelievable. Now,
Yeah, I didn't. I actually had prepared this whole thing because I'd seen something that someone had shared of like, if your job continues to force this basically make them answer all these questions and then sign this form and if they won't then basically it was just to cover me. But then they didn't press much further after that. All of a sudden, it was like that was the other thing. It just changed overnight of like, oh yeah,
this isn't required anymore. Is That's like the Boogeyman had just like up and left like so quickly, all of a sudden, there's not a care in the world. I was like, this is uh, this is interesting. How so much just like changed in six hours. But okay, all of it is just I mean it's bizarre world, is what it really is. Yeah, it's all backwards. So what was there a particular before you got the flat earth with? Is there a particular big rabbit hole? But was
it the vaccines the big one for you? And how did did you end up doing like a midwife or water birth or how did that go for you? Yeah? So, um, basically after the birth, So after the
business of being born documentary, I went down. I am a lover of documentary, so I had watched numerous birth ones and then kind of talked to Walker about it, and then, um, then we ended up well, and I had typed of us to you and the email I son, but basically our ob we had gone in there, and the first one we had was a very really nice lady, so we were okay with the place. And then the second time we had the ob that actually like yelled at us
for not having the COVID vaccine. She like wanted us to get it when we were there and was really forceful about it, and I just remember just my blood boiling because I was like, I've never been talked to this way by like by most people haven't talked to me that way. But um, but then also just like a doctor that you're supposed to that we've been programmed to trust, and me and Walker both were looking at each other as we
left, like we're never coming back here. And then basically that's what that happened before I watched the birth documentary, so then that steered me that way, and then I found a birth center that was midwife, so we did find midwives and then we did successfully do a water birth, which was awesome. That's so great to hear. I've always wondered when did they start normalizing going to the hospital to give birth? And when I start to research.
Of course, if you go to like the National Institute of Health, they're like, oh, this has been normalized since the eighteen hundreds, and I'm like, that doesn't sound right. You know. I've heard stories from my grandmother that we're that contradict what the NIH says. So I always wonder, and the people I talked to generally agree. Post World War two is really
when a lot of the things in our world changed. And that was another big one h a y under the nineteen fifties, and they started normalizing going away from midwives and these type of things to going to the hospital. You know that the medical industrial complex was really taken hold by that point. Yeah, And it's uh, they really just have taught that, or they've successfully guns a lot of people about just being fearful of the birth process completely.
When you look at so many um you look at the past, and people just trusted their community to help them and the people that surrounded them, and there was like that trust. But then over time, we're just supposed to put our trust in other people's hands. What was greatly What was the reaction from your extended family and friends when you share things like your your birthing experience
and your stance on vaccines. Do you get uh, you know, the the eyebrow up in the air or people generally receptive to these type of things. Well, fortunately with my family, for the most part, they were like, yeah, I'm not I'm not getting that crap. We still have a few who got it, but our entire family definitely went ahead and got
them all. Yeah. And we were very confused, and we tried bringing it up and pointing out things, and then people just give you that blank floor I head stare and you're like, oh god, the floor right stare. That's right, yea, I see you've been down that rabbit hole too. Oh yeah, that's That's where I started. Was all about health, trying to repair my brain and body from the very impressive destruction I caused on it. Yeah, but the body is amazing. It can certainly heal itself,
and that is such a great thing to hear. So talk to me a little bit about how when did you let down your gardens? Start to consider how how did flight Earth come into your lives? That was definitely kind of like you though. It was the last thing we really looked at, you know, we were looking at like food and however they're poisoning us from every direction and everything else. Before we even got to that, like i'd
say, almost two years ago or so. Yeah, and then it was just like, oh God, like because I had I had been stumbling on it a little bit and kind of like batting it away and out of my head because I loved space, or did or the idea of spaces. Sure, like everything I have is space, Like got all my shirts had like space and fit on. It's it's so so stupid, but I've been trying to figure out why all these stars are the same. I'm like, I
know what the earth does, Like, how is this happening? Well, he's a musician, and he had like he sat down, um at one point and started like writing up a song, and a lot of it had to do with like the numbers, um of just like what we're supposed to believe. You can go into more detail. But then he was us like,
this doesn't make just like a thousand miles an hour. I was driving sixty earlier, and I felt it pretty heavily bouncing all over the place, right, and then then he stumbled across the six six six throughout the whole kid gud and You're like, man. And then Megan brought up She's like, somebody told me about this documentary level we should watch it. I was
like, all right, cool, you know it. There it is, because I guess one of the biggest things too now is just like literally every day and like a new think like all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my gosh, well we've always been told this is that even true? And like you just like break apart like these different thoughts and beliefs that just come on by every day, like and then you have to dismantle that. So like the flatter thing, all of a sudden, it was like,
oh, we haven't looked into this further. I've always we've always dismissed it and laughed it off because of that, Like the image in my head even now even with knowing like what it's supposed to like what flat Earth is, is that picture of like the flatter just like floating in space next to the planet and obviously it's nothing with it what it is. And I'm like, oh, I just accepted that I was like, oh, yeah, that's what they believe. You never looked into it what the Flat Earth Society tells
us it's supposed to be. Yeah, we actually did watch like one of those supposed documentaries they made. I think it was on Netflix, like three years ago, on it too, and he was stopped after the endment, like puzzled, like they didn't even finished the experiment, like what is this? Yeah, and I think that's the one David Weiss was in, and I think he said he was very disappointed because they did a lot of editing and set it up to look like that the flat Earth was was just you
know, silly. That's why they had That's why they had taken charge. And I think Level three just came out yesterday, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, we were trying to watch it before this, uh this interview here, but we didn't get the time. Yeah, I'll definitely check it out this week. I think you just have to subscribe. I think it's fourteen ninety nine. Yeah, I just got it for five dollars. Oh okay, I didn't even know you could buy it. What do you know where
it was? Was it Dave's webspider? Um? Well, they had it. Well, there's a couple different places. Um, sorry I'm spacing out. I know it was on they had it linked on rock Fan. But if you go to the right um level with me website, they have like they're on the site it says like, oh, down load it here, John, load it here. Um. I mean they're all like you have to pay something. But the site that I found it through, it would
have been renting for three dollars or buy it for fives. So I just thought it there you go, And I'm cool with supporting people, but it's video is a lot of work. Money, man, it's a lot of work. So much respect everything that David and those guys have done. For sure. Yeah, it's so awesome. And I to see your money going
towards something that's actually truthful precisely that. That's another thing that went We don't talk about enough is making sure that our money goes to corporations who actually care about us and not those who are trying to kill us or put us in the hospital with their you know, their poison and their GMOs and things like that. This is actual quality education that you know, this this this information. Um, you know, we talk about all the rabbit holes out there.
This is truly one of the biggest ones out there. It's it's the biggest deception. Every single person who I talked to, who who comes on this program, ninety percent of them says, you know, it brought me closer to God. Did that have any type of spiritual effect on you guys? Absolutely a thousand person, big time. Yeah. It's funny because I'd say it's probably four or five months after we really kind of decided it's flat old crap. You know, we're always going to go get a Bible because
I still have not read it, honestly. I mean, I've I'm reading it now. But then we go to Christmas and my godmother I've given me it gives me a brand new, beautiful kJ V and I was like, all right, oh, I was like I was going to get one of these, and she was so puzzled. I was just like, what, Oh my god, Yeah, I think I like, I got to read it and that is that book is it's metal? Oh my gosh, it
is. And then it really once you wake up, it brings a whole new meeting to reading Genesis, and you smack yourself in the forehead and say it was right here all the time, right in front of my face. Right. Yeah, that's the other thing. I feel like, Um, while we've been waking up, like I was following different pages and one of them was tied it more into symbolism stuff, and then I remember just I forget what was said, but it was something around the lines of like if
you're looking for truth, read the Bible because everything is there. And I was like, wow, I've never completely read through the Bible. And then I realized too, I'm like, we've believed we definitely, we were a believer of aliens before, we were a believer of all these other things. And I was like, why did I draw the line at God? Like if I could believe in these other things, why can't I put that a
step further? And then UM also realizing because we just as we've been going down this road, it's like it's it's really truly insane the programming, UM, Like how well it's done, because it's it was hard at first for us to even talk about God, UM, like actually having conversations about God because it's like we've been programmed to um to do the opposite or to not to not do it, and Um, I'm still waiting for my stepdad is uh is atheist and Uh, I'm still waiting for that conversation to come up
because we've had a lot of like because I've I've always been like I would say I'm a spiritual person, but I never knew who like our creator was before. I never like fully came to that. I was just like, there's a higher power. I just don't know what that is. And we would get into deep conversations. But um, still waiting for because one of these days that's it will end up coming up and he'll just be very shocked that we have come come to that conclusion. But then that's going to bring
up the flatter thing for sure. Well hopefully you know this is the same step father you were just talking about earlier that had gone down the rabbit holes before with nine to eleven and the moon landing. Right, yeah, so that's like and then he really because then we wrote we basically asked him like, oh so and this is someone who who has like worked for Bosh and
um Munsanto and uh yeah and uh several green energy for objects. Yeah, and so it's like it's just Walker has gotten so that argument with him about like the green energy and um, and then uh, yeah, it's just it sucks too because every literally everyone around out my family are all big drinkers. So I definitely went through a relationship relationship change with like all of them when we quit drinking. I didn't realize how heavily some of the relationships were
on we're on drinking, I guess. But um, so things have kind of been on shaky grounds for like the past couple of years with them, and I think that's why I'm a little bit fearful of like getting deeper with them, because I already feel like things are hanging on a thread with some of them in my life. But sure, and I think you just have to kind of use your senses to know how far you should push the envelope.
And as we've said many times before, it's really up to the individual if they're going to be receptive or not certainly force feeding the issue, we would only make it worse and they'll be more close minded. But I know exactly what you're talking about. A lot of people that you hang around, if it's especially a holiday event, um, the alcohol is going to be first and foremost, and um, like, oh, you're not drinking what and you kind of are are left back in the back of the room for
lack of better terms. Right. Yeah, And Walker has talked a lot of people out of like work about this and everything, and I think violet, so that's so cool. I feel like I haven't been a little to He's definitely way more out of the flatter of closet than I am. That's funny. That's and I do this, you know often, I have a podcast, but when it comes to um doing it in like real life. My my wife is way more open about it. She'll be at work,
she'll tell me. I was on break last night and I had Dave's app open and somebody leaned over and I was showing them. I'm like, I mean, she she she's very animate and doesn't she doesn't hide her thoughts on it. So she's probably working up woken up more people personally in person than I have. It's that's so awesome. That's fun being out there on the ground floor just talking to people directly. The faces again, are just amazing.
It is. I live in a small community in a rural area, and everybody kind of knows everybody a little bit and yesterday, I saw one of our local pastors. He's a Nazarene church guy, and we get to talking as a super friendly guy, and I told him that we home schooled, and I kind of mentioned I said, you know, back during the pandemic, when I saw what they were really teaching, I thought to myself, here we are in the home on Saturdays or Sundays or whatever day you
observe. You know, you're you're teaching your children about the Bible and about creation, especially Genesis. And then the next day, on Monday, you send him off to school and your science teacher is teaching them evolution and the big Bank theory. And he just kind of looked at me, and I think it kind of something knocks something loose up in his head, and he kind of understood what I was talking about. Um, and you know,
we have yeah, exactly. Most of the preachers don't really, I don't like to say most, but all the churches I've been to, I've never heard a pastor talk about flat earth or the firmament, right. Uh, most of them will probably, I know, all the private schools around us, they teach uh these type of things with a Big Bang and evolution and such at the same time, Uh, Genesis is right in front of us, and uh it says the stars in the moon, it's in the firmament.
So that's something that hopefully that that's my real big hope that we can get um, people in you know, people of the cloth to to to grab onto this and teach it and get it into curriculum, which is a big one for me. Yeah, I'd be awesome. Yeah, I loved hearing you talk with um I'm whatever. I forget what the episode it was, but just the idea of like doing a f on school curriculum that that actually like teaches the flat earth as well. Because we've talked about like what
we want to do and it's like, yeah, we have to. We don't want her to go to public school obviously, so we have been figuring, like trying to figure out we have some time, um because he don't have a little a little bit older than one, but um, yeah, just being able to make sure that that the correct things are being taught because things are just getting getting worse with public school. It's worse then when we were in school, all for sure. Yeah, we have a lot.
We have several friends now because we're telling people. I'm like, I'm not letting any of my daughter go to any of these schools. There's no way, Like my high school was shaped. It was two circles with a big long floyer in the middle, and it just spit out eight holes all day. And I'm like, this is unbelievable. Like it's all in the architecture too, Like I just don't care. That's insane. Did you guys happen? I'm sorry, Oh, I was just laughing because yeah, the aerial
view of his high school, it just looks like a giant fallax. That's insane. Where were you guys? Uh? I mean at some point, I'm assuming that you went down the uh in the conversations with your father in law, you went down the the moon landing rabbit hole? Was that something like when you started to connect the dots with the flat earth? You're like, oh, my goodness, that now I under I kind of understand why
they faked the moon landing. Yeah, and I guess the other because now I'm just like, oh, you started like because we started asking him recently, you had started asking him a little bit more like because it was like, oh, have you have you looked at the operation paper Clip have you, Like, he looked at the voyager and all those still a lot of people, and he basically just kind of shrugged it off and was like, I just stopped. I just stopped looking at stuff. And then that's when
we were like, um, you should actually look deeper into it. That's interesting. That's one story I haven't heard too often is somebody going down the rabbit hole and apparently from the sounds of it, he was pretty far down the rabbit hole and then just stopping. I wonder, and again, I've never met your father in law, don't know him, but I wonder if he started to maybe some of these rabbit holes were leading him to possibly being
a creator and he didn't want to address that at that particular time. Is that a possibility? That is when he grew up in a very religious household, and that like because of the way his mom is, I guess I think that steered him. I'm like, I honestly think that feared him more on the atheist route because his mom is pretty extreme on her on some of her beliefs. I don't think she's there yet with I'm definitely not there with the flat earth, but yeah, so that that would be your grandmother.
Um, yeah, but I'm not, uh, because she's basically like a step grandma. But they're like, I'm not super close, I'm not super close. Well I haven't seen her in quite a few years. But um, but now I'm I'm just more interested in some of some of those things that I hope that we can just continue to plant seeds for him to like go back into it. I honestly think another part of it could just be like he brought up for years and was constantly laughed off by by family and
friends. That is I'm not sure. Yeah, that can certainly deflate the balloon. Um, because I mean generally, I remember when I started to stumble across different rabbit holes. For me, the flat earth was kind of multi level. At first, I was, you know, well, then
I guess they're lying about everything. Was kind of the conclusion I came to, right, you know, for a while, it was as well, they lied to us about nine to eleven, They lied to us about the moon, but they couldn't have certainly lied to us about this, this, and this. When I finally realized I couldn't disapprove flat Earth, that heliocentrism was so flawed. And then I started to see the numerology and the symbolism in it. You know, I realized we'd really been hoodwinked. And again
at first I was it was disbelief, then it was anger. But then the more I started to figure it out, I got excited about it and I wanted to tell people. And then I remember I think David Weiss was episode sixteen or so, so early on My Facts on our podcast, and I was very excited. I'm like, people are gonna love this one. And I wake up the next morning and open my email and you're a moron.
How you're discrediting your pot and all this other stuff. I'm like, well, I guess people weren't as excited as I thought, And that is a stumbling block. It's, you know, we're human beings and we don't like to be ridiculed. It just shows you how how quickly just talking about it triggers the programming and people the Agent Smith syndrome, yeah, big time, And it's just like, yeah, I'm sorry, go ahead. I
was just gonna say. It just comes out so strongly. I mean, even us like I feel like we we've shared some like, um, some of the things like in the like going on in the world, a lot of it having to do with like the transagenda and everything, and all of a sudden, people like coming all the woodwork just they're just like, you're transphobic and blah blah blah blah blah, and it's like, that's not at
all what this is about. Um, we're pointing out these things and we don't agree with them, and then but people just like whatever it is just triggers the programming, and then they have to defend it with all they have and they don't even know what they're defending. Yeah, that's a great point, and it is done really well. I always talk about if you go back and look at movies and TV shows, the Globe. My daughter watches
something on YouTube called It's These two guys. They're they're in their forties and they do food. It's I think the guy's name is Rhet and somebody else. I can't think of the name of the program, but apparently they've got like twenty million subscribers. And I happen to walk by and sure enough behind them is a globe. It's so I'm thinking, these guys are probably on the world stage as well. If you've got twenty million YouTube subscribers and it's
every you wear. It really picked up in the fifties, So they hammered this into our minds, both intentionally and subconsciously to believe that we are on a ball. And then when you finally break the matrix and you step back and you look at the simple numerology, like you know, you said you were a musician. You were making a song, so I'm sure you were talking about ninety three million miles. You can go outside and look that that
sun is local. It's right there, It's not ninety three million miles away. Exactly. That's what I keep telling my friends to have the ones that I've actually brought you, because it's few and far between that I actually can bring it up too. Is I'm like, just go outside and just look at the sky and just deep what they're telling you, what's happening, and see if that's what you see is I don't see it? Like just watch the sun racks, go look at the stars, like why is that star
always there? Look around out of your phone, look up. Yeah, they don't want you to look up, that's right. They don't want you to look up, and they actually I think they made a movie called Don't Look Up, and there was some interesting symbols in that movie as well. It's not a family movie, folks, but when I saw that title and the people involved in it, I'm like, I have to check this out.
Did you guys watch that? Yeah, we saw that too, and we were like, oh, we just kind of watched it with that stomach journey feeling the whole time, like oh yeah, definitely, like because the whole thing too. I mean we are always into like the Marvel Star Wars movies. Um, he was a lover's face. He's happy that he at one point he was looking at getting a space sleeve tattoo, so us all saved him from he would have been angry if he would have done that.
Yeah, but um, go ahead, yeah yeah, it's just crazy. It's just like those everything, Um yeah, when you just like start dismantling all these things that you're like, oh yeah, I thought I was. Oh Now it's so hard to even like entertain our I mean, my family's big into football, everything else always has it on when when it's on, and now there's just like we just don't have the interest at all anymore because the whole bread and circuses thing, Um, it's just a distraction. Yeah,
that's I was the same person. I could tell you back in the day. I could give you a certain person's batting average, how many home runs he's hit. And I was a big Eagles fan, and I just you know, it's okay. I'm not here to say don't watch football or baseball because we all need to unplug and go back to normany land every now
and then. Yeah, right, But at the same time, I think some folks get true entrenched into the bread and circus and to where you missed the important things in life, so that you've got to you gotta find that happy medium in the world. My daughter just walked by and said, it's called good mythical morning that that shows you watches. I'm sure there's someone out there who knows what I'm talking about. It they have a globe behind them
every time I walk by them, like there's that danglobe. Uh. But yeah, anytime we watch anything now, it's just like it's almost like we're studying the enemy because you're like, huh, I wonder what this what this is? Uh? Pushing exactly. We do the same thing too. We go back and watch old seventies and eighties movie and then it's something will pop up. We'll look at each other, um, whether it's like a skull
and bones or three two two. On my other podcast, episode thirty three of the original Batman series, Um Bruce, they talked about Bruce Wayne's grandfather being skull and bones and uh, it's funny episode thirty three, which of course thirty three is their big number. Yeah, we're gonna have to watch that. Yeah, yeah, you can find that on YouTube. Just put
in Batman thirty three skull and Bones and it'll pop right up. Okay, Yeah, it's just crazy, like the things that I right in front of you, I think, Um, even when because our daughter, um, like we would put like just Majana on the background, and then like then he starts seeing everything like hidden even in like the song like I'm not gonna sing because I'm not gonna do that to people. But but then there's a part that's just like no, like the the line with the guy needs to
see it calls me because no one knows how far it goes. And then I was just like, oh my gosh, they put it right in front of our face. And then there was that movie Um Free Guy with Ryan Reynolds, and uh, basically like there's another like there's just like a paradise, Like that's glitching in the distance, out out in the ocean, um and I was like, see there's more land out there. Like I just that one really collect for me too, have just like were supposed to just
believe everything that we're taught in school. But like the map, Yeah, right away when I started going down the rabbit hole, it was like the map could just be completely different than what we always bought. And sure enough, indeed, Yeah, they really started to push I've going back into little
research. They really started to push science fiction into the fifties. And that was right about the same time, shortly after Operation high Jump, and right about the same time is when Werner von Braun did that Disney I Forget what Men in Space. I think it might have been called nineteen fifty five. They really started to push science fiction movies, the cheesy, you know, the B movies as they used to call them. The science fiction They started
pushing the science fiction lunchboxes. That's when you started to see like if you go on eBay, and you look at these uh old lunch boxes, you'll see most of them, the classic ones are from the fifth And then I started looking because Stanley Kubrick, many people think that he was the one responsible for filming the Moon landing and two thousand and one, A Space Odyssey was released. April third, nineteen sixty eight. Now, nineteen sixty eight was
a big year. That's when they started building the World Trade Center. That's when nine one one became the national emergency line. That's the year the Jets won the Super Bowl, and of course the two Jets went into the World Trade Center. But also nineteen sixty eight is when the Space Odyssey was released. But April third is the ninety third day of the year, and that ninety three is a big number. It's you know, they say the sun is ninety three million miles away. Yeah, you just see it everywhere.
This is so crazy, Yeah it is. And then I mean I was eight years old, I guess when Star Wars came out. And they do all these things for a reason. It's to to make you believe, you know, because when I was a little kid watching these movies, I was picturing myself on the X wing fighter flying out and outer space. So these things that they do so subtly really reinforce their brainwashing. H I sure do.
Yeah, yeah, the whole m Kaolter thing too. It's just like all this programming and then even with like the tragedies that happened, like it's just trauma based mind control on everybody. It is. It is. And I just actually mentioned that on what I recorded I did some emails earlier today that's coming out tomorrow. That is something that they do, fear based mind control, right, that they want to keep you in fear so you can depend on them. Please. With COVID, it was please get that magical
elixir ready and put it in my arm to save my life. And in two thousand and one it was please give us new laws to protect us from the he's evil terrorists. And it's always, you know, the solution problem that the reverse this is what we the end game we want to get to. How do we do it? Well, we tell everybody that there's a big virus out there. Now, whether or not there was actually one or not, that's you know, debate for some other time, whether it was
manufactured, whether it was the flu. Personally, I never have gotten sick. But I'm I know people who have said. One of the founders of Speak Free Radio, he said it's he got it. He almost died. He said it felt like something he'd never had before. So I'm kind of mixed on all of that. But at the end of the day, it was I remember, and I'm sure you remember this too, like the mayor of New York City giving free cheeseburgers. I think Washington was giving away free
joints. They were giving away all this stuff. If you get the jab, you get a day off. If you if something was such a magical elixir, why would you have to give stuff away? You would if something really were work that great, people would spend countless amounts of money on it. Ryan, I know walkers work. They didn't you? Yeah they did? They h was it? Get your COVID shot and then get put in a raffle for a new truck? What? Yeah? And then no one,
no one who won the truck. I haven't heard of anything about this truck afterwards? Oh my goodness. Yeah. And I worked for a pretty big company too, Like it was pretty insane. Like they're a global company they like to say. I'm like, is that so global you get on
everything. Uh, Like I remember us going to the grocery store and yeah, it was like, oh, get get a ten dollar like feel Saver card if you get it, and we're just like, really, come on, Yeah, I mean, I'm just thinking if I created something that that wash that would save people against this terrible thing, I wouldn't have to give away anything. I just say hey, I got this magical licks or come
get it, and people would come running for Italy. Yeah, and they certainly overplayed I get emails literally every single day from people who say that COVID is literally the reason why they woke up because they overplayed their hand. They definitely did. I Yeah, every time you say that, I'm like, that's the best way to put that, because I am grateful that we Yeah, that the veil was lifted, and I honestly like, I know, you can't go back. I wish it would have been lifted for me.
But I before my grandpa had passed away, I hadn't been like helping him with us health for like the last six months of his life. But knowing what I do now, like what I do now, there's so many other things that we could have tried to help with We weren't just weren't fully there. We didn't know like even half the stuff that we know now. But
I have just done something differently, maybe things would have been different. But I know all us can look back and pick something apart from our past, but for sure, And I'm grateful, grateful from a knowledge, for sure. But now you just like you want to get through the people. But you can see. I mean, I know we were both asleep before too, so I know it's easy to get frustrated. But and that's a very
important trying to get through the people. Yeah, that that's a very important thing to keep in your hip, is to remember that most of us, at some time or another, we're all not privy to this information as well. And we believed everything that was in the history books and everything the man on the news told us. We took it at wholesale, because listen,
people are inherently good. There's bad apples everywhere, right, every race, every religion, every creed, there's bad apples, every profession, there's bad apples. In my time that was very good soldiers, and there was bad apples. There were bad soldiers, and I'm sure that's it's the same in nursing and doctors. But for the most part, people are inherently good and most of the doctors and nurses that were a part of this, they didn't
know any better. And that's something that we need to keep in the back of our minds because they inherently believe people at wholesale as well. So they believed that this COVID vaccine was going to save people's lives. Now, when you start to see here recently that doctors were getting bonuses, that memo kind
of slipped out recently that they had certain quotas to make. And I've been very open about It's been almost two years now since I've been to the VA, and when I declined my COVID shot, they have never called me back, emailed me, or anything. They have no interest in seeing anymore because
obviously I hurt their numbers. And that's really a sad state of affairs to whether if you're awake or not, you should be embarrassed if you're more worried about hitting a quota than you are individual health, which we talk about the what do you call it, the post World War two um trials they had, oh, the Nuremberg yeah, thank you. The Nuremberg trials, and I've read that on the air, I think a week ago. It's very
clear that you can't coerce people. And are you telling me what we saw was not coercion, right, No, it's definitely about your health, that's what it is. It's about about diminishing it exactly. That's the thing. Yeah, making people feel well, and that's a problems, Like, yeah, they're always have what the good and evil? The evil? They always
need to um, give us some pretty will or whatever. But it's just crazy then that people don't I mean, um, yeah, that exemption, even the vaccination exemption we've had to fill out for like our daughter, um, I forget who recently had sat up. But they're like, well there's a form that you can fill out from that. So it's just like there's just so much knowledge that well, yeah, it's not shown. So then
people don't even know the question to ask. And then we're just supposed to yeah, because everyone inherently is good, but yeah, I believes what they're they've been programmed to just believe, and we're supposed to trust people in the white lab coats yep. And then when you find out the same people who controlled the military industrial complex and everything else. They're the ones who controlled the
textbooks as well. So yeah, you've really got of And I said this earlier today, is when when you realize that everything is a lie, it makes it even harder to discern what is the truth, because you know, when when everything you're working is with a manure, it's really hard to figure
out is this good? Is this good? And that makes life difficult to a certain extent because some of the things that come up, you know, do have direct effects on your life, and you have to sit there and take the time into research and say is this really true is it not? And a lot of these things made me decide, you know, big life decisions like pulling my daughter and homeschooling her, like my daughter, or my
wife, you know, leaving her job that she loves so much. And we were talking, I think before we went on we went on the air. You know, my wife was one of those people everybody remembers in March, April, May, June. I don't remember how long it went in twenty twenty that they wouldn't let any loved ones in the hospital. So in many cases, my wife was the last person that people saw when they left this earth, they would you know, be you know almost well, they'd
be in tears. And I just want to see my daughter, my husband, my son before I pass And that is just next level evil. Yeah, so yeah, so heartbreaking everyone that didn't get to well in like, that's amazing that your wife did that for so many because yeah, just hearing about that just was like heartbreaking every time. So I can only imagine what it was like in in person. But yeah, the fact that they did
that and then now it's like, oh yeah, blah blah blah. Every day it's like a new thing that comes out that's like basically what happened before. Its complete bs right, And it's like, or didn't apologized to all these families that I didn't get to the see their loved ones or you got like every I mean we've a lot, we definitely lost friends to throw the process. But it's like you're never gonna get an apology from these people,
but nope, and they've really if you see the damage it did. I also mentioned beforehand how they've decimated the medical industry, how the ers are complete messes now, and going back to the local preacher, I was talking to. He said that he lost half his congregation from COVID. He said there's still some elderly people who were still to this day we're talking three plus years, that are still scared to come out. Oh wow, I mean yeah. I mean yeah, all of a sudden, everyone's spring and spring their
food. I remember that too, like people spring it with disinfectant. I think it was you that actually mentioned on the podcast episode ninety nine point nine percent, like on all the disinfections, and I hadn't noticed that yet, and I was like, oh my gosh, six six six right there too on every thing. Yeah, yeah, it's right there for everyone to see. It's just a matter of, like Manly p. Hall said, people opening their eyes, and only then will a great veil fall upon man.
And I do think we are in a bit of a great awakening and we need to kind of continue the momentum. And with that kind of getting back into flatter what are your thoughts on Antarctica? Do you think is it possible?
Is there land past Antarctica? I guess we don't really know, but like there's some really cool stuff out there that points to it that you know, you kind of keep your mind open to it and hope for the best whatever that ends up being, you know, but I think it what it brings me back to like that whole extraterrestrial thing too, Yeah, extra land, And I'm it's one of those things that's like I would never want to say like that I'm for sure or one hundred percent about any flat Earth concept
because it's like, in reality, we don't really know. We just know that the globe isn't We know that what we've been taught isn't the truest, and so I feel like, I'm that's why we're so open to different, two different concepts and ideas about it. But um, I mean I definitely think there could be more land. Is there the most map and stuff? Yeah? There, that's a big one that's that's come up a lot often lately. Is the moon map the direct reflection of the Earth? Yeah?
So cool, Yep, it's funny. Um. I was listening to a podcast this weekend. When you see the pictures of going back to the Moon landing, you know that the moon, according to these people who filmed it, the moon is this rock and it's moon dust, right, That's all it is. It's like dusty old rock that's just out there. Uh, if that's how they portrayed it, how does it How is it so bright
that that's something that people don't really talk about. Yeah, that's one of the things I stumbled upon a while back to as people just like looking up at the moon, like see how bright that is? And they just initialate photos of the people on the moon was dull, gray rock everywhere. How is that so reflective from far away but not from close up? Wouldn't they just be blind? Exactly? What are your thoughts on the moon? Do you think it's uh energy? Do you think that that's the negative energy and
the positive energy from the Sun? Is that? How what are your thoughts on that? That's kind of the way I leaned towards it is the negative and the positive. And I've seen some pretty cool stuff about how like the moon phases are it basically a battery cycle of it charging the Sun and stuff like that, And I don't know, I'm I'm guessing it's some kind of
plasma, but they got to be negative. It's all energy based, you know, And you see so many cool things like about that, Like I don't know if you've ever seen the show Avatar it's a cartoon on Netflix, but they it's cool how much stuff they actually put into these shows that's actually
real. And then they just like Muddy the Waters and they have some really cool episode about the Ying and Yang being the sun and the moon and their Koi fish and these spirits and so I guess I don't really entirely know, but the negative and positive, it's like I feel like it's gotta be yeah for sure. Sure, Um, was there anything that we haven't talked about yet, specifically as far as the flat earth goes that we haven't touched on
that's important to you that you wanted to talk about. That's what I can think of right now. I don't think so. I just think that there's just so much more. Um, I like I just get stuck on the more Land thing too. But um, yeah, I was just saying that the extraterrestrials meaning the extra terra, that the extra land exactly, and um, I don't know, and just the whole uh yeah, I mean you've been talking about the moon. It's just it's just crazy when you do.
Yeah, when I know this hasn't talked about a lot, but the astronauts just looking so sad after after they want and there's just so many, so many things. Yeah, and then like what the Challenger crew just I'll like six of that six people have been found and they haven't even changed most of them haven't changed their names even and they're just like our living life right now.
Yeah, there's just some things that it's just it's really fun. I mean when you get to the point that you can just like wait when you can laugh at some of it because you're like, oh my gosh, it's right in front of our faces. But like, no one does this research. A lot of people don't do the research obviously on their own when they're asleep. But if people just dug into things, like just a little bit,
there's a lot that can be found. Yeah, and this is the only technology that I can I can think of that is gone in reversed right nineteen sixty nine, yea, which is fIF this year. I guess it'll be fifty four years since people they claim gotten a rocket landed on the moon, walked around there for twenty whatever hours it was in their moon diapers, they got they got back on, came home and now was it Friday? This three billion dollars rocket they get up thirty nine kilometers and blows up and
people are clapping and excited. It doesn't make any sense to me. That's like back in nineteen sixty nine they create cell phones and then today we get two cups with a string tiede on and we're clapping about that. It's just it's beyond belief for me. They're getting pretty close to get excited about cups. I don't know. It just I just push more people to wake up to it because it's so cool. I mean it's a little nerve wracking at first once you start to notice all this stuff, but then once you see
it for what it really is, you're like, oh wow. And then you find all the biblical aspects of it. Like I was talking to Chris the other day and he's sitting down with his wife and they were reading the Bible and he's like, we read like a couple of pages and I mentioned the firm twenty five times, Like, I mean, it's it's insane, and like once you realize I would all just points directly to God and the
polaris is always there for a reason. It's because watching right. It's just it's so cool, like all the anxiety tends to go away because we were definitely freaking out for the first couple of years obviously, you know, got like until coming to that um the knowing of God being real, I feel like it was just kind of that rabbit hole of like, oh my gosh, there's so many evil people, like why, like why is this the
thing like going deeply into everything looking at I mean because where everyone's being slowly poisoned with with chemtralls, with poison being injected into our foods. They're put into food and that's why obviously, like growing your own food is so important and why we got into that so heavily, like last year for the first time. But I just remember just freaking out of like why why are we
being poisoned from redirection um? Why do does no one in the if we're supposed to believe in UM people in politics, why is no one uh just yelling about this and being passionate about it Because wouldn't wouldn't you be if you're supposed to butter the butter, butter the earth? And I feel like that's when I really like truly realized too, of like everyone's in on the ship,
like there are no sides. Politics is a sham. It's all an illusion um or giving power to people when we shouldn't be trusting or giving trust to people so easily. That's right. You hit the hammer on the head there. And by the way, for all the people who think that, uh, you know, cam trails and weather modification is just another um, you know, conspiracy theory. Last week it was featured on Good Morning America.
This young lady, I don't have her name in front of me, but she put on Twitter that when I went to college for meteorology, cloud seating was inefficient and expensive. That is not the case today. Forty two cloud seating projects in ten states with hundreds of ground based cloud seeders sending silver iodied into storms to make them snow more than they naturally would. See the full story on Good Morning America hashtag weather modification. So if these people only
knew, there's obviously a lot more than just silver iodied. There's aluminum and a lot more things that are contributing to our poorer health, and you know, the weird. I don't know about you, but there's some days where I just don't like, I don't feel myself, and I think a lot of that has to do with them sprang us. Yeah, there's so what
we've been doing for that. Actually, as you've heard of Ben Tonight play, yes, yes, huh yeah, so we'll do a nice hot bath with Borak, speaking soda on Bent and night Clay when we can tell it's getting real heavy around here because we know about that, we got a whole bunch of extras. No, we don't normally get around this time of year, and everyone was feeling like crap, and I'm pointing all these straight line
clouds and make you guys know that's not right. Huh. I've been telling everybody do the Ben to night Clay Borax and baking soda baths, and everyone who's done it's just like I feel a thousand times better after getting out of that bath. It's insane, Like all right there at metal isn't good for you, but then he has to being done realized and like Shila Jet is really good for that. Yeah, that's going back to what I was talking about earlier. When I wasn't I didn't know how much stuff to put in.
That was something that the person told me. That is, by the way, you need to make sure you up, you keep up with your vitamins as well, because you lose other things as well. Now when you when people talk about that like this, Benton night Clay, I'm always lear to get anything from Amazon because I have a feeling like when when we come upon these things that, uh, you know, these big organizations are ahead of the curve and they sell things on Amazon aren't truly good for you.
Do you guys get it from Amazon? Or is there different websites that you guys to get these healing type of things. Honestly, we actually did get that from Amazon the last couple of times. It always seems when we've been to night Clay, we kind of need it now, and we're like, well, yeah, we don't like to give them on our business world, you might as well get some of the deals out of it, you know. Yeah, I know, I get should be working all right, that's
cool. I do. I can't think and we're talking like on my phone right now, But um, I have been like saving some other resources order through when when we don't need it like right now, right, that's cool that there's I'm looking at what now on Amazon called az Tech Secret. It has over twenty seven thousand mostly positive reviews. And you can get it the next day. Yeah, stuff works really good. So if you see a lot of clouds that are straight lined, really long and stupid, definitely try
some of that stuff. You'll feel better pretty quick. And then my buddy got the h He got the shot and had a bunch of problems because of it, and then all the spraying happened too, and he was just having a terrible time and he looked miserable, and I was like, here you go, man, I just set him up a batch and he brought it home, calls me a couple hours later, He's like, that was amazing.
Oh that's awesome. How did you know? My god, I don't drink anymore, which I used to do for and the twelve hours a day, so I got a lot of book reading. I can do. One thing I try to always preach is uh you know they teach us our parents, like my dad taught me in the summertime, go out and get the dandylions. They go out and spray the weeds in the in the cracks of the driveway, And sure enough you grow up and realize that dandelions are one
of the most healthiest things. We pop them right off and eat them. We eat the flour there. They're so good for you, and they like, uh, your your bends? What's benz a teen bent bent night? Excuse me, it's it's the timexifying. And again we're led to believe weed's bad. And not only are they are we killing something that's nutritious for us, we spray it with cancer cause and you got people out there with roundup. It's just that that's how upside down our world is. Yeah, it's
crazy, and that's I love dandelion stuff. Like there's a dandelion t that I get, a nice organic one that's just amazing. Knocks me out every time. But yeah, we're gonna let him grow this year and make some out of made some dandelion butter or who knows. That's awesome. But yeah, back to the geo engineering too. Um there's a great documentary on that called The Dimming if you've heard of it, but um, that has great
information. That's like one that I'll tell people about if they don't believe in it, because it literally goes so deep into um, how it's done, what's he used? And then like the patents, all the patents that are on it. I'm looking at that now. It's actually available on Facebook, the Dimming full length climate engineering document. I don't think I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, it's really good. It just like proves everything. And people are like, oh, like if there's if people still are denying that
comes toils are real. Um, that is another great source. But that's amazing. Um, this has been an incredible conversation. And UM, you know what, the conversation always varies, Um, all from flat Earth. But some of this information is so important and I always get emails in the course of our conversation. These type of things, uh, like I call them the side conversations always resonate with people. And there's a lot of people out there who think that they only think like this right, and in the
truth community, it can be lonely. I get a lot of emails from people, UM, and I've experienced that because when you start to wake up, you kind of tend to walk away from NORMI land the movies. I've been to a movie and uh since twenty nineteen, and uh, it can it can it can get lonely. And this, um, this flat Earth community, for lack of better words, is really helpful for people. They understand that they're not the right that they don't. They're not the only ones
who think like this. There's other like minded people and that's very important. UM So, I really appreciate that both of you taking the time to come on and share your stories, and I'd like to give the both of you a few minutes just to kind of to close with any thoughts that you may have that you want to share it with the masses. Well, thank you for having us, and we we love everything you're doing. I remember when I found the Flat the Fact Hunter podcast and then I saw or heard you
talk about it on there that you had this. I was like, oh, wonderful, there's more more flat Earth content, and then, UM, yeah, I just love what you do. But UM, I guess like I definitely have felt that that loneliness. I feel like, we mean, we don't have as many friends as we did in the past, but like I say, the relationships that we do have now are a lot more authentic
and real than they were in the past. So um yeah, if anyone ever wants to reach out, email is the Lighthouse for Truth at gmail dot com. UM always looking for friends, but we love the Fathers community and congratulations on your website as well. I'm excited to look at that. I hadn't had a chance to check it out, but um, I think that's great to have a place that people can communicate through too. Yeah, absolutely,
Walker. Is there anything that you'd like to answer for sure? Well, I know there's one thing I wouldn't want to say to you for a while is I do want to get a pair of those Air Georges, and you have just as much right to them as old Buzz, but I think you should probably get those going nice. And also, thanks you. Your
podcast was fantastic. It was so nice to be able to just honestly point our buddy Chris to that and he was like, oh no, he punched it all back in like twelve minutes or something, right, And you got my wife fall extra excited. She hasn't talked this much in a long time. It's nice to hear be able to talk to people about this. And and if people out there are lonely, because it does get really lonely. There are groups and stuff like I know, I think it was last August
we stumbled across or not stumbled across. I had the flat Earth clock app like the David wisapp and a big message come across like hey, flat Earth event out in this place or whatever, you know, and me and Megan were him and a harm or like we need to go to this. We need to find some of our people. And if you find one of those,
just go to him. It's worth it. I mean, keep an eye out on the flat Earth or on that flat Earth clock app or email me and Megan, especially if you're in the Minneapolis area anyway, and we'll direct you to it as well. We'd love to meet you and show you there's more of us out there, like there's there's hope, like people are waking up so fast and it's beauty. We went to there's so many more new people. It was really inspiring. Um and it just like gives you
hope. I was supposed to be like fifteen people and ended up being forty five. We had people drive from Michigan and I think, uh, first one we went to, there's a bunch of people from South and North Dakota and just from all over the Midwest. Because it's crazy, it's and it's worth it. These people are I mean, we're all some quirky folks and it's it's a lot's a good time like and and we're probably the only ones there who don't drink too, so you guys are still looking at a party
and have a good time. These these folks likes to do it. Yeah. I think Flatoberfest is in Las Vegas this this uh October, so it'll it'll certainly be that there. It'll be fun. Love to make it to that one of these years. We need to get land and get out of the cities first. This is it's not where I want to be, yeah, for sure. Well listen, it's been an absolute pleasure to have Walker and Megan on here and to share your journey to the truth. And you're
both wonderful people and I really appreciate you being on. And again, if you all would like to reach out to them, I'll have their email address in the show descriptions, so don't feel like if you're driving down the road you need to pull over and write it down. I always put that information in the show description so you can just copy and pace and reach out to
them. And again, thank everyone for your continued support. Go to the flat Earth files dot com and find like minded people and don't be afraid to take charge. You know, if you're that type of person, get to get together together in your area. You would be surprised how far people will travel to mingle amongst like minded people. These are incredible times and I'm glad to be a part of it, and my thanks for Walker and Megan for
joining us tonight. For everyone here, thank you so much. God bless you guys, and God bless take care.