Episode 91: Flat Earth Conversation with Ryan

The following presentation is Abel margat Studios Production. Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It is time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files, as we recorded at seven pm Eastern Time on this Wednesday, August twenty third. I think that you were tuning in on to Tuesday night at eight pm, or maybe you're listening two years from now, who knows, but it's just a pleasure to be back here on the podcast. We have a tremendous

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many great messages there. Say hello in the chat room or leave your thoughts in the forum. Much to do on the website. Again that it is the flat earth Files dot com. Without any further ado, we are going to bring on our special guests for the evening. His name is Ryan, I think Ryan, excuse me, and he's a little over a month or so since he's reached out and had a chance to go back and forth, and like so many other people, I appreciate your patients. Excuse me,

and welcome to the show, sir. It's a pleasure to have you, mister George. I just want to say thank you so much for not only this platform, but I want to say thank you for your willingness to have the past guests on. You've had some fantastic and noteworthy legends that have come on the show. I just want to give a shout out to David Nemos as well, and just some fantastic people. I feel honored to be here and what a great platform to just share your heart moneym is Brian McCrae.

I live in New Orleans, Louisiana. I am a regional manager for a company called smart Cart. It's the luggage carts at Theaterport and I worked for the Nielsen Television Ratings as a membership representative for them, and I have up until recently have been an administrative pastor at a church in Covington, Louisiana and it's and Assemblies of God Church, and I guess we can get into more of that in my story as of late with the flat earth and some of

the people not liking it too much. Yeah, I'm sure that is something that you deal with often on Sundays, maybe when you're speaking to your church, and I'm sure that's something deep in Saudi. You probably want to stand on the mountaintop and scream to, you know, the folks in your congregation. At the same time, I've I've spoken to many pastors, some on board, some not on board, but both of them say it is something

that they're afraid to really dig into, too deep into. And I think one of the reasons is, and we'll go into this as much as you want to, but post COVID, many churches have seen their churches cut in half. And I'm not saying that's the norm. I'm just saying that that that stat is out there, and I've speaken. I've spoken to, excuse me, many pastors who've told me firsthand that yeah, congregation left, we did zoom. But now here we are three years later and our congregation is

significantly less. Do we really want to bring something up that can you know,

do more damage. What are your thoughts on that. You know, it's a great question, especially for the times that we're in, because you know, you talk about the coincidences, and I don't believe in coincidences, but you talk about the culmination of whether that's the United Nations meeting that they're reconfirming a seven year peace treaty on September eighteenth in New York, which the Bible says specifically that the Andy christ will come in and confirm a peace treaty.

You're talking about the Hawaiian fires, the direct energy weapons that they used out there, talking about the red heifers that are ready to be sacrificed next year. You talk about the feast of trumpets happening right before this peace treaty, beginning on Friday night, September fifteenth and ending on September seventeenth, right before this peace treaty assigned. And then the fact that they're mentioning aliens right

now. Aliens do not exist. There's nothing more than demonic beings that question right there, And you've alluded to this several times in the past, whether that's nine to eleven that woke you up whether it's you know, you go ahead and name it and you call it the Grandfather of conspiracies. It really is because it puts everything else into perspective. The Lord says in Ephesians five, it says, take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but

instead expose them. The Lord literally commands just to expose the darkness. And if you look up that word expose, it means reprove. In that definition, the Strong says by conviction, to bring to light and expose the lives of the enemy. You know, the first time somebody ever was ncaid I like to call it, then the last I'm a three month flat earth.

I'm very new to this, but I've done my research in the Bible, and there is absolutely not one single scripture that you can come and hold light to at all in any way that says we are moving or that we live on a globe. You know, the Isaiah forty twenty two, they say the God sits above the circle of the earth. That's the only verse that they have, And that's very easy to say that God knew exactly what word to use, and that they had the word ball. And I have the

Hebrews and the strongs that we can dig get into that as well. But the first time somebody was nasid was Eve in the garden in Genesis three one three, she said, and she was telling God, but the serpent beguiled me. And that's Hebrews age fifty three seventy seven, which means beguile, to utterly deceived, and to utterly deceived. So a lot of things in especially going on in TikTok. They're like, oh, NASA doesn't mean that.

It's an acronym, and you know, they're pulling up fifty three seventy five, which says to lift up, to bear, to carry away, and they're like, no, NASA doesn't mean that way. No, you combine both of those nassas, lift up two deceives. And Zachariah talks about in chapter five. He says he sees an efa, and we can get to this verse as well. I want to do a deep into this because it's so important right now, because they're talking about these demonic beings that they're

calling aliens, that it's been a slow boil up until now. The only way you get alien, the only way you get big bang, the only way you get evolution is through this. Hell is a centric model. Hell is a Cintrick model, and it really is. And I believe that Jesus Christ wants us to expose the lives of the enemy, and that's what I'm

here to do. And I'm proudly proclaiming that. And I do have a lot of people in my life who think I am absolutely nuts, off the deep end and definitely lots of deep conversations that I've never had on a better note, you know, but I've seen thirty atheists that have private messaged me on TikTok alone in the last two months sixty days that have said they've come to Jesus Christ just for the videos that I've been proclaiming on because there's so

few people. There's there's like three pastors you can think of that's come out and outwardly saying this. The church has been silent on this for a long time. And if the church is silent on an issue, let's say, for example, the LGBT issue, this is allowed to fester in the church, and now you're seeing the outcomes of that pouring out. And when a sin is allowed to fester and the church doesn't address it, that becomes a problem, which is God says to expose the enemy's lives. Indeed, a

great opening message there, and I have some notes. But before I get into the questions off of that, why don't you give us kind of some insight into your awakening. And you said it's only been about three months, so that this is still fresh into your mind. And I'm sure, I'm sure still having some a little bit of emotional ripples that you're dealing with.

So I'd love to hear your story. Cognitive dissonance. Yeah, I can tell you that it was on TikTok that I started just somebody was posting videos and I kept just scrolling through these things. I mean, it's just mind numbingly ridiculous. Why would you even get thought to this? You know, we all remember, every one of us were you know, we believed in the globe model at one point. And I love how you say that once you see it, you cannot unsee it, and that is so true,

you really can't. And it exposes It removes so much fear you know that you're not going to get at an asteroid. It removes so much fear out of your life, and it does explain so many Bible stories, the flood, the Tower of Babble. But getting back to my I'll start with this. About four months ago, I decided to take a DNA tests from ancestry dot com and it came back that I had twenty five percent Italian. There's no Italian on the other side of my family, and I guess I'll bring

back to COVID as well. I lost my grandfather Dude to COVID in twenty twenty I lost my dad in twenty twenty one, in December of twenty twenty one due to a fitting all overdose. And then I'll just lost my best friend, my little buddy Blue. His name was Blue. He was a ten and a half year old half Catahoula half pit bull, and he was my buddy. And he took me from being a single man to a father

of two beautiful children and a beautiful wife wife. I have a little boy named Ryan Lewis mccrad the third, he's two, and have a little girl named Jenna Grace McCray, and she is just my heart and she's definitely got me wrapped around her finger. I'm gonna lean heavily on her mom to not let me give her everything in the entire world, and as every father feels that way towards their daughter. But my awakening really came from the fact of

I highly respect my boss for a smart card. The Lord says, you can have two masters, but you'll love one and hate the other, which is why you can't love God any money. At the same time, you know, I have one job that I love and I won't say which one, and I have one job that I hate. But this boss I do love and anyways, he I respect him a lot. He's been a director for the entire Central US for the past twenty five years, and he's just

got a wealth of knowledge, great family name. He's got four daughters. And he had mentioned one day over dinner, over at a lunch we were in a meeting in Houston, and he had mentioned briefly, He's like, man, those videos online about like the moon overlaying the map of the flat Earth and how it was the continents, those are kind of those are kind of interesting. And I'm like, that's really interesting that you say that. I'm going to open up my Bible. And it was just a brief interaction

that I had already been seeing these videos started posting online. And this was four months ago, and I opened up my Bible, and one of the first things that I go to besides the Bible itself if I want a good resource, is called a website called got Questions. Have you ever heard of got Questions? Got questions dot org is actually a really good website and it it's tested and proven for a lot of like really hard things like are you saved, once saved, always saved? Or can you drink? Or what

is homosexuality? You name it? They got some fantastic scriptures that back it up. Well, anyways, I looked on there and they were back and forth. They were like, the Bible doesn't say either way, and I'm like what these guys are always decisive, and I'm like, okay, well, now I got to open up the Bible. And the first place I go to. If you guys don't have this, please download the Blue Letter Bible app, whether that's the web page or the app is fantastic for Strong's

definitions. You named the translation, but looking into the Greek and Hebrew and a lot of these verses which they've hidden the Jesuit, Rockefeller Vatican School System and the Bible translation. They have really done a great job of hiding these scriptures. Even though it's plane is day as soon as you look it up. The definitions for certain things like the breadth of the Earth that says flat

plane, that it's flat. I mean it says it right there. It's Second Samuel eleven eleven, and the Matthew Bible before the King James, all of the Bible said flat earth, and up until the sixteen eleven KJB. But I forgot the question, just your journey to flat Earth? What really? Yeah? Yeah, my journey has been in So what I wanted to do is I started a private TikTok. I had my own TikTok and had no followers, but I wanted to do a private TikTok just to talk to

people randomly, to you know, see what the community was like. And this is before I discovered your podcast, which I found through TikTok. Soddy Will just private message me. We'll like, hey, have you listened to George Hobbs Flat Earth Files? And I'm like nope, And I'm just now getting into the fact hunter. Man. That's good stuff. Hours of content. You definitely keep us busy and just thought provoking to no end. Yeah, very welcome. The what was I gonna say? Oh on tichtok.

I posted a video and I'm like, guys, I'm I'm recently new to this. I'm believing that the earth is flattened. The Bible says it. I don't know what to do with this. And it gets four hundred thousand views overnight, and then I get like five thousand followers the next day and now two months later, just making videos of this is what scripture says, and here's what the here's what the Greek and Hebrew and just defining scriptures.

I have thirteen and a half thousand followers in a matter of sixty days, just trying to spread the truth of God's word. So people are eager and wanting. The ears are itching, people are ears are itching for truth. There's so little truth being spread that when you hear truth, it goes to your core. That's the other thing. There's only one truth. Okay, it's either flat around. I mean, yeah, you talk about the doughnut shape or that you know it has ridges or whatever, but everybody understands what

flat is. So the term there is it's either one way or the other, and the Holy Spirit will guide you to truth. God says, if you seek me, you will find me when you seek Me with your whole heart. And that's what it truly takes in this. You have to truly seek God with your whole heart. God is a jealous God. Over and over again. It talks about them worshiping the host of Heaven, which tons of scriptures that we can get into. But God is a jealous God.

And he said, turn from your wicked ways, stop worshiping the golden calf, stop worshiping the You know, Stephen the Martyr was recounting the time that Israel in Acts chapter two or seven, I think it's verse forty two, and he says he was right before he was stoned. He was telling them, you guys, turn from your idolatrous ways. Y'all are worshiping the sun,

moon and stars. And immediately that's when they couldn't refute him anymore, and they started a campaign to discredit him, just like they're trying to do with Platter, and they're throwing stones like crazy. Incredible, And you know something I really want to resonate with is uh I got a message last night. It is incredible that the person the normy, the person who's you know, just doesn't really want to take that red pill. Yet they say,

what's the big deal? And it is a big deal. When you get messages like you said, you've had over three hundred atheists that have personally messaged you saying that they've given your life to Christ. I mean, that's there's nothing bigger than that. And you know when I get those messages every now and then as well, and it it really reconfirms, you know, that that the work you put into this, when you start to see the fruits,

you know, just like today I was outside. We we harvested whatever, one hundred and fifty carrots out there, and this it's a labor of love. And when you get something like that, and it's like, I don't expect anything back, when you get when you change people's lives for the good, When you hear all day long on the news and in social media of Russian this Ukraine, that covid uh. You know, And by the way, I'm so sorry for all your losses. Man. The fentanyl thing

is terrible. There was a coming back home Monday night. There was a guy strung out on fentanyl trying to cross the main highway in traffic. It's it's a miracle he didn't get killed. It's just really something that we need to do a little better society to help people out with. And I know at the end of the day, everybody's accountable for themselves, but man, it just tears me up. But my condolence is for your loss. And I know what it means. The dog, the puppy. Just the most

unconditional love you can ever get is from your dog. So God bless you in blue. Amen. Yeah, thank you. And you know I am getting this question a lot. You know, a job of a pastor is to comfort the afflicted, and it is to afflict the comfortable. Pastor. Kraig Roschell said that, and I'm a big fan to him, and he is. He's instrumental. He has a really large church out in Oklahoma. It's called Life Dot Church. And one of his pastors, his actually Jensen

Franklin, is over in Gatingsville, Georgia. I actually got to meet him right after my father died and he signed a Bible for me and just a really just salt of the earth guys. He's really he's really famous. He but he's just still down at the bottom of the stage, gritting you with him. I want to say this because this is so so deceptive in the church, and people are thinking that it's so divisive. There's only one truth, and God's word says that his word will come to separate mother and father

and daughter from their families. He said, his word is sharper than a two edged sword. In the only way, I mean, you can lead into this with anything like do you believe in the Big Bang? And a lot of church people will say are Christians will say no, or they'll say something corny're like, oh, yeah, I believe got spoken that's the Big Bang? And you know that's what it is. Absolutely he formed the earth with his voice, and he a literal Genesis one translation and interpretation of the

Bible is essential to our Christian faith. Or you can ask him do you believe in evolution? And I'll be like no, no, or And then do you believe in aliens? And the only way you get these three lies is coming up from the Isaac Newton year sixteen sixty six and the Copernicus lies that they started from the Jesuits that infiltrated the church, and then the church was silent. Now was Martin Luther. You can literally look up quotes.

This is one of the reasons why he split from the Church Earth. You know he this wasn't a meme courd thing that he was just like, this is lies and deception and now we're just cookline and sinker and you can't even question it. And my goal, the reason why I went public on this is, first of all, I can't do that to my convictions, to my I'm I'm I'm a passionate person and anything I'm adhd you name it.

And I just as soon as I get my hands on something, I gotta run with it, and I gotta go, and I go with it hook line and sinker, And I'm sorry that if God says this is true and you can stand upon the word of God. That's the other thing. There's over two hundred scriptures that I have listed in this document that it will be pinned in the podcast, but if you can click on here, it has everything that's from David Weiss's app, just applicable links with the video playlist on

YouTube. Those are great resources. But the other thing that it has is the I put it in an Excel spreadsheet and a bullet points format. You can copy these verse that is, to throw it in your phone, put it in the notes on your section on your phone, and reference because it

has categories the sun stopped and the Earth is stationary. Then you go down the list and it's every the seventeen verses to talk about the firmament and you want to talk about a one of the biggest things, and everybody, everybody mentions the firmament, but you do a deep word study on the firmament, and that's gonna bring a lot of people around. It's on the Christian side, you know. And that's the one thing I try to mention to people

is when you do V or off a KJV. And again I'm not telling anybody what to do, but I think it's a good reference because there's some versions that actually use the word space in there, and you look at KJV and it never mentions space in that thing, So you do have to be careful. I wanted to go back real quick. You said life dot Church. Which pastor said that phrase. That's Craig Brochell. Okay, I see

him. He's the senior pastor there. Okay, and say that phrase one more time because I almost fell out of my chair when you said that that was so awesome. It was. He has a leadership podcast as well. That is just I mean, out of this world. If you guys want to dig deep into that, that is really good. But the quote says this, a job of a pastor is to comfort the afflicted and to afflict

the comfortable. That is the best thing I've heard in a while, because that is especially as Americans, because I've been all around the world and I see how much comfortable that we are here and we get so comfortable. The more comfortable you are. And I'm not trying to use this as a generalization.

I'm not saying this applies to every person. And when I say things like this, I always try to make that doesn't mean that every person, but more people, when they become so comfortable in life, they tend to drift away from the things that truly matter at the end of the day. And that's just something that I've observed. And again, that's not every person.

What are your thoughts on that when somebody accepts or believes a lie from the enemy, no matter what it is, the enemy has to expose himself to you, which is the reason why he got the biggest lie is not the flat Earth. A lot of people were saying, like, you know, the biggest lie is flatter it's not flat earth. The biggest lie that the enemy has ever told us is that God doesn't exist. Right. The second biggest lie is did God really say okay? Like he twists scripture.

That's he's he's a genius at this, and he twists you to make you think that one thing says one thing. The third thing is I do believe is the globe model, because then it leads to all the things that we're facing right now today, which is why it's such a timely manner. I don't know if i'd answered your question, but that's kind of what I feel.

Yeah, perfect, And going back, was there one particular piece of evidence when you were kind of three or four months ago going through this, what was the one that you bit the worm and they reeled you in that, Yeah, I believe the earth is flat. Was there one piece of evidence that when you over or was it just the whole conglomerate of it all? Excuse me, it's I love people's responses to this because you're really leaning

in and it's so hard to say what one thing was. But I would say that you could see way too far in the firmament in the Bible, the scriptures. Is really what did it for me? And then I backed it up with all of the scientific evidence that flat earthers have done and all the greats who have gone before, David Weiss and you know Rob Skiva believe you go down the list and you just you see the evidence that's you know,

suppressed. So the other thing was just the amount of suppression. Why, like if you if there's one thing COVID has taught us that if they are suppressing information, just go ahead and check it, check you write it down. That is the right there. And the level of suppression, I've never seen anything like it. And when you can connect the dots that it leads to all these lives today. And God says, do not fear. I mean, I've tried to do the three hundred and sixty five things.

I think it's I think it is three hundred and sixty five times. But God says, do not fear. He says, comfort one another with these words that I Am coming soon, and He really is coming in There's just so many coincidences that if this, if you can unlock this truth right here, it strengthens your face, your faith to the core of your spine. It just it strengthened it like steal. So let me ask you this before Flat Earth, have you looked into nine to eleven? What were your thoughts

on the moon landing? Is that something that you questioned? I questioned that one when I was little, just because it's fun to question that and you hear some people and you've heard that question around besides this and not question anything really like it was a it was a complete Once you see this, everything else fell in the place. Nine to eleven fell in the place. The moon India just landed on the moone. This most ridiculous video I've ever seen

in my life. I didn't even draw it was It was worse than any cartoon you could possibly imagine one technology, whatever you want to call it. But I worked for the I worked for the Nielsen TV ratings, right, so I know I'm not allowed to mention anything inside of people's houses because that'd be influencing. Yeah, but six fifty million people watch that was the most

televised event. People won't Alarmstrong bounce up on the moon saying one small step for man, and then the second and billions of people watch the nine to eleven thing and man going down the rabbit Trail of Nimrod and nine to eleven, and thank you for your service, sir. I know I have several family members in the service, and I did not, and I just want to say thank you so much for your dedication to our country and to what we still believe in as a god fearing nation. And we are a god

fearing nation because we still live here. We serve the right the right God and whose name is Jesus alone, And so thank you for your service, man. And It's just brings me so much comfort when I'm listening to the podcast and I hear and I'm like, it really does resonate, and it's I've had so many people reach out to me of TikTok because I'm vocal, and they're like, I just admire your courage and thank you so much for

doing this. And I mean thousands and thousands and thousands of comments that people are awakening to this truth. I would say it's upwards a fifth team to twenty percent. Foreshore, there's over thirty people that what is it? The United States is three hundred and something millions, so I would say just in the last month, over a million people have watched all of my tiktoks and

subscribe. Wow, yeah, you gotta start TikTok. I was like, man, I need to get this guy in the advertise TikTok because that's why they're wanting to shut TikTok down. It's exposing so many things. It's not even funny. Whether it's the Mountain direct energy DO systems and all that other stuff. It's exposing so many things that once you see the video of it,

you can't unsee it. Just like the lunar landing blasting off with the rainbow sparkles when it comes off the minute, right, Like that is unbelievable. When you see that's another one, it's like, you gotta be kidding me. This was real footage. That's why they lost the footage. Of course, that's their officials. They knew that the technology is was going to eventually catch up with them, Like and I'm sure in nineteen sixty eight that was really cool, right, but now and that that is so funny.

You mentioned that that India video from today the Chanda Regan three spacecraft, and they say it's the victory cry of a new India, and they showed the leader of the country sitting there with a flag like with a stoic face, like he didn't even know what was going on. It was the most ridiculous video I've ever seen. Oh my goodness. The Lord says this. In Leberticus, it says, turn ye not unto idols, okay, And that's

Lebiticus nineteen four. And that that word is translated as false gods. And what do they name all the planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, all after Roman gods, Greek and Roman gods. That's right, just turning not to idols or make for yourselves molten gods. I am the Lord, your God. Ye shall not make no idols nor graven images, neither rear you up to a standing image, neither shall set up any image of own in your land to bow down to. For I am the Lord, your God,

First Chronicle of sixteen twenty six. For I the Lord, or for all the gods of all the people are idols, but the Lord made the heavens the permament Psalms ninety six. All the gods of the nations are idols, but the Lord made the heavens Psalms ninety seven to seven, confounded by all they that serve graven images, and what does NASA do? Graven images? They make for themselves images of the things that are in the heaven, things

that are in the earth. And you talk about the Globe Birth being the biggest graven image you could possibly think of, they're throwing it in your face, and they're laughing at us, and they're mocking us day in and day out because we still believe in the globe model. And if they can, if they can protect that globe model at any cost, it doesn't matter what you believe. They know they have mind control over you. It's about mind

control because you don't know. If you deny a human of their very existence, you've denied them of everything. They don't know what's possible. And it's the only thing that has brought people away from Jesus. I mean, I'm sorry, it's it's one of the greatest things that are bringing people in mass waves over the last five hundred years away from God because it gets you to

doubt God. Nasaid. The first time somebody was Nasaid was Eve. She the serpent got Eve to be Nasid, the guile deceived, and that's what he's doing today with the globe model. Do you think NASA is just a continuation of the work of Nemrod with the Tower for Babbel. Do you think they're intentionally trying to get through the firmament and destroy God. Well, I once you see, once you see that the Freemasons control the elite, and

that's the big government. Whether it's the Vatican Church, whether it's you know, you say anything, the global elites, it's the Freemasons that they control this. It is one hundred percent their system. It's the continuation. This is a generational lie that the enemy God says in Zacharry that there will be a curse that comes upon the whole face of the earth. And I want

to read this because it's so important right now. If you go to Zachariah chapter five, this is what it says, and it talks about the Efa. It says this Zachariah chapter five, verse three then said, he unto me, this is the curse that goes forth over the face of the whole earth. This is an angel talking to Zachariah. For everyone that stealeth shall be cut off as in one side according to it, and everyone that swearth,

according shall be cut off as to the other side. So it'll be very divisive, right, either are gonna believe one side or the other. Then Zachariah chapter five, verse six, it says, and what do you see? The angel asked Zacharia, what do you see? And Zachariah said, this is an efa. This is an efa that goes forth. He said, moreover, this is their resemblance through all the earth. You look up that word. If the first word the first definition, yeah, it's

you. Well. Other translations say basket. Well if you look you look at ifa in the strongs. The second word is a receptacle for measuring or holding that amount. And I'm going to share my screen. Is that okay? Yeah? Absolutely, I should have recorded this. Look at I'm a video obviously if you look at this type of eph a H on Google, I can't share. I think it might be uh, it might be disabled.

But anyways, it is a cylindrical disc that they held. It's a it's a disc that they had, and it looks exactly like a spaceship, an alien spaceship. It's a little blurry image, but eph H. And it holds ten ten omers, which is what the definition is, and all the other translations say basket. So why is that important yet? D you see it on Google? Yep? And so that's the problem. This is the curse that goes forth over the whole earth that is going to deceive people.

And that's that's what we're seeing right now. That's why it's so important, because the Bible has our answers if we would just actually read it and then doing another word definition, look up for the word fermament. Right, so we all know that, but a lot of people don't know that. In Ezekiel one twenty two it says, and the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the color of a terrible crystal, a fearful crystal. Well, let's look up that word crystal right there,

and that literally is frost ice or ice crystal. Now, what I want you to do, George, is type in the word frozen oxygen in the Google and look at the images for frozen oxygen. Tell me what color that is? Images? That is the color of the sky. Sir Amen that said that what he did with this is he stretched it fourth, Well, do you know what that word is? Rakaya? Let's look at that word the spread. Fourth is eighty four. That is, to beat stamp out

like metal. You cannot you can't pound out an atmosphere, but you sure can't pound out ice. Yep, to stamp and beat out. But yeah, I just wanted to. I had to get that in there. Those these are the things that you could use for people who are who are Bible believing and they believe the Bible says this is the truth, and that's the end all be all. God said it. I believe it. That settles it for me. Well, let's let's look at what these verses mean.

Second Peter three says this, knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days, scoffers walking after their own lust, saying, where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation. For this in verse five. For this they willingly are ignorant of that by the word of God, the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and

in the waters. Why is that important? The reason why that is important because the scoffers presume upon the mercy and the lone suffering of God, insisting that because they have never seen a widespread judgment of God, they will never be one, but they will fully forget God's creation. A literal belief in creation in Adam and Eve, in the Noah's Flood are essential for a true understanding of God's work both then and now. To deny these things undermines the

very foundations of our faith. But sadly today it is as many Christians who will fully forget the invisible attributes and the visible attributes of God by denying the literal translation of Genesis one. God thought it was so important to put it on page one. Yeah, And actually the next verse, in verse six, he talks about the flood, and then he talks about basically in times about the judgment pradition of ungodly men. That's an incredible couple of verses there.

The other thing is the Noah's flet everybody knows, no us what it's in, every every religious culture, every religion. Everybody believes. But the Bible, the one true word of God, right, the immovable word of God, just like the earth. Amen. And the other thing that it says. He says three things. It's the first time it rained. He said, got opened the firmament, which is the heaven. Then he said the clouds rained, and then he said he opened up the deep. A

lot of people are saying that the firmament was destroyed. No, never, never, ever in the Bible does it say that the firmament was destroyed. When after the forty days of the rain, it said he closed the firmament, which I believe is the Milky Way scar that they tried to escape. The second thing he said, he stopped the rain. And the third thing is he closed the waters of the deep, which is a lot of those meteor craters that they think that those are just under under earth geysers that you

know that whereas where what on Earth? By Arawhan. That was a six hour long movie that kind of goes deep into that and that's kind of a one package deal that movie there. But you want to talk about a lot to unpack. But one more thing I want to I want to talk about for planet. Okay, the word planet, and God never says planet in the Bible. There's never, not one thing. The only thing it's referring to is wandering stars. Okay, So if you look at the strongs,

this is Greek forty one oho seven. Planeta's okay. It literally says a wandering, erratic teacher. Okay. But let's look at the root word, because root words are very important. The root word is one over. That's G forty one oh seven. This is G forty one oh eight. It's plain os. And the definition for plainos is an imposter, a tramp, deceiver, or misleader. Is your definition of a planet, and it is perhaps nasalized from a pie root flat spread out in the notion of flat.

That's really interesting, and again it's once again you're getting back to this Greek mythology, and it's very interesting. You talk about the planets, you talk about raw the sun god, you talk about Amicron, you talk about the new one ares Ris. All of these things are tied to Greek mythology. Can you you mentioned it very briefly about the milky waist card. You want

to talk about that a little bit. I've heard somebody. I don't know if this podcast or if I've done I can't remember where I pulled that information from, but I do believe it makes complete sense that they try to crack the firmament. And talking about Hillary, he's talking about we're gonna track this highest part of class ceiling. Yeah, there's I don't believe in coincidences,

and if you're a Christian, I don't believe that there's coincidences. Right, Like, the enemy has to show you and once you see it, you can see how ridiculous these articles are about you know, they're wanting to spend ten dollars to research sex faces like well, like as soon as you hear the word space, you know that it's fake and you can see right through

the enemy's hands. As soon as you understand this. That's why it's so important to have this knowledge and to have the truth and the word of God known your heart, because you can see right through the enemy's devices. You know, I don't I don't have anything further on that besides that that is a great explanation of what that could be. And I do have a couple links, by the way, which you will not ever find on Google.

You have to look on Bravery andex one of the alternative search engines because you'll get completely different things with you know, uh, what's Neil de grasse Tyson type of explanations on it. You would mentioned and this is something that's very near and dear to my heart. Especially on my other podcast, which tomorrow actually be talking about the Rockefeller Plan. You mentioned the Jesuit, Vatican, Rockefeller school system. How important is taking back the education system and how much

has that contributed to the indoctrination of the masses. It couldn't be more important to take back our our school systems. That's indoctrinating our children as soon as they've taken prayer at a school. All this happened around the same time, you know, and you know better than I do that once they take God out of it anything, that's when things start to go down. That's when

you start having the school shootings. Years later, that's when you start having you know, the sixties sex, you know, the hippies and everything else. You take God out of the school system, and this is what happened.

You know, I believe the fifties when when Operation high Jump and the Operation fish Bowl and Dominic all that was going on in the fifties, Like the fifties were amazing, Like it was the golden era, right, the married homeowner with you know, two kids and a dog, and you know, the enemy would love nothing more than to the grade the family there's a statistic that if a father gets saved ninety six percent of the time, the rest of the family gets saved if the mother, I believe it's thirty or

forty percent, And if a child could saved first, that's only like seventeen percent. The attack on masculinity and men and a godly masculine like just loving men to degrade that has There's never been an all out assault from the schooling system or whatever it is. But it is the utmost important to take back control. And I do believe that once you understand that that the word of God is truth and that we've been lied to and we've been deceived, we

can begin to take back control. But that's when people are still people are still sleeping. This term awake, you know, it really is a matter of life and death for our families. However, I say all that to say this, We are marching towards you know, the end, and God says that these things will happen. I do believe in a pre trib rapture and that we're gonna be out of here and God's gonna protect his bride harponzo. You know, the word rapture is not in the b the word snatching

away before the wrath of the Lord comes upon the earth. I believe all that. I believe that just there's no such thing as quincid is. And I'm not setting any dates, but man is next month of high watch time. Right now we should be living every second of the Lord. And you know, and that's the way that the Lord had tended it to be written that way as a riddle for his church to be in anticipation for him. And that the ten, the ten virgins that you know, five of them

kept their oil in their lamp and five of them didn't. And when they went off to go refill their oil, the bridegroom came and, uh, you know, we gotta we gotta keep our oil in our lamps and seeking after Lord. Lord says, rejoice always and pray without ceasing. Those your ticket to success in life. Right there is rejoice always, be grateful, And God says you can enter into His throne with thanksgiving and in praise. You'll never enter the enter the presence of God faster than whenever you give him

honor and you're in awe of him. God is a He is a jealous God. He has every hair on your head numbered and he wants you and he desires you, which is why he needs you to not believe in a lie from the enemy. But you want to talk about getting the presence of the Lord, the fastest is you give him all and adoration immediately you want to drop into the Holy Spirit. That's how you do it. Gratitude and

just all an adoration. That's why it's so important that we don't worship the sun, moon and stars and oh God, you're putting God in a box and you're saying that he didn't create all the universe. No. God never said he made a planet, never, not once. So if God didn't put in his bible, nope, I'm sorry. If he made all of these galaxy and cosmos, he would put it in his bible, that's right. But I just I really felt the word there when I was talking about

you know, you give him your adoration. That's why it's so important to not be and have an idol in your life. You know, our children can be an idol in all life. Everything can be an idol on life. And if we're spending sixty five point seven million dollars per day of our tax money, that's an idol in America's eyes. Yeah, I agree, And that goes back to something I talk about often is we do a terrible job is holding people accountable. And I know that there there are always ten

steps ahead of us. They always do these psy ops, and they have the power of the television, the news, and uh, they know how to give us the controlled opposition, right and also the people there are people within the truth community at the top of the food chain. You know, was it Lennon who said if they want to hear it, will give them one and uh, you know you're Alex Jones is et cetera. There's they'll give you enough truth to believe it, but they the buck stops, you

know, at the end of the day. The other thing I wanted to talk about was something that very interesting, Tom Cruise in the Orsini family. Yes, that's a rabbit trail right here, because you, uh, there's only a handful of families that really controlled the world, right, that's right. You start getting into standing that the Mormons and the Jehovah Witness those were all created by Freemasons. And once you see the hand of the enemy,

that g that's on the compass, that for Freemasons. That stands for Gilganish. Okay, I don't know if you were aware of that or I heard that from here. I don't. I don't know, but I've heard of it. Yeah, I've heard that before. It might have been somewhere anyways. But there's only a handful of family. The Orsini family actually said Tom Cruise, that's actually not his real name. That's his like middle names. So I've been a real name of Tom Cruise. It's some kind of mar

following you or something like that. And uh, but he really is tied to the Orsini family, which is the Rockefeller who's changed their name. They just changed their names. It's illegal for us to change their names, but

it's not illegal for them to change their names. And then once you see the hand of the Freemasons all over the place, as soon as you know it's Freemason, not wrong enemy devil Satan already, just like you know if anything somebody says they've been to space, not wrong enemy devil, like you know that you automatically know that in the back of your head that you can see that the writing on the wall, and it's very easy to do that. But yeah, I would, I would suggest going a bit shoot yandex.

Man, you told about people about Yandex. Can I just say thank you for that. I had no idea about yandex until till till I started doing some of this. But that's how you find out some true information, that is for sure. Yeah. Absolutely, it's it's night and day what you get for a minute. There. A couple of years ago, I

thought Duck dot go was the place to go. And then I was driving down the road and I saw a billboard Duck dot Go, and I got an email, and I realized that they were just another one of these controlled oppositions. But yeah, brave and yandex will certainly get you a lot closer to the target that you're looking for than certainly Google and Duck dot Go. I had another question, but when you mentioned the families, it was another family I wanted to mention, and I had it on my big board over

here. Oh the Cargo family. Uh you know. Here, here's what I learned. If you know a family's name, they're not at the very tip top of the food chain. The Orsini family, the Cargo family, and there's a couple other ones, the Paysers, P. A. Y. S. Eu R. I think that was a podcast I had done two years ago, and the next day I got an email that told me to be careful because somebody else had done a podcast and they had their channels

shut down or something. But I do believe that there's families out there, like there's the thirteen blood Lines. They talk about the Disneys, they talk about the DuPonts, they talk about the Rothchilds. But I think the people at the very very top, most people haven't heard of. And I love the way and you say that, you know, whether whatever you call the elite, the globalist, the top of the everybody's got a different name for

them, but they're all meaning the same thing. They're they're the seat of the serpent, no matter how like they are. The enemies hands operating physically in our world today. Bible talks about how we don't battle against flesh and blood, we battle against principalities and spirits. And you talk about one of the biggest principalities and the lies and the deceptions. They all think about all the lies of the deception. That is, you know that this uncovers,

it annass everything. People are always like, why does it matter? I'm like, it uncovers so many lies of the enemy that you can identify, and we're able to operate and live a God fearing and not world fearing life. The Snake building and the Catholic Church like wow, and how that's laid out like a serpent, and how it just the eyes like wow. And then God says, don't do abominations and give me, don't burn incense anymore, like they're sitting there burning incense. And then they have the sun God.

The Satan calls himself the the morning Star, right or Saturn as you know, the sixth Star. And I don't know if Saturn's the morning Star out, but you know, some people say it's like that's Satan. And man, it's just you see so many things you really do. It just never ever ends because there's no end to truth. That's that's the thing. There's no into truth and because there's only one truth. And that's why you can't you know, I like your your your boy, Tucker Carlson, he's

just like, you know, I'm not saying I'm a flat Arthur. But there's a reason why these guys have stuck around for so long, because there's some truth to what they're ye, So you've been on the flat earth train for three or four months now, How did you break it down to your wife? How did that conversation go? So my wife is she is amazing. She was hesitant at first, and man, I know for I just see the comments and I see the people reaching out to meet personally. I

mean hundreds of comments just in the last two months. Hey, Ryan, thanks for being vocal. But I'm having a real hard time with my spouse and I want to be real sensitive here because I know there's a lot of people who are struggling with this. Some people are not ready for this truth. You know, you can't handle the truth. You know that's a funny statement, and you know some people really can't handle the truth. However,

do you either accept God's word or you deny it. And if you deny God's word, you're opening yourself up to demonic attack, which is where you talk about the level of fear that people have after COVID and all this stuff. And because the lies are ramping up and you can't see through them. However, God's his bet still and know that I am God. And if you believe God's word and you put your foot on his rock. Then everything else stops spinning literally, and you're able to focus and put your eyes on

Jesus. You know Peter when he was getting out of the boat, you know, and Jesus said you of little faith. That doesn't mean that he had small faith. Peter had more faith than all the other misi. Well, he had a tremendous amount of faith. Seven out it said you have that word little translates to short, oh ye of short faith? He had faith for he had an immense faith for just a short amount of time. God says that faith is a substance of things hoped for and the evidence of

things not seen. And that's where this right here has never solidified me stronger than my faith. And you need faith to move mountains, only the size of a mustard seed. I can tell you I can move mountains now now that I know that I can see that this proved God. If you had evidence to prove God, wouldn't you be jumping up and down? People are like Ryan, you know you're going crazy on on TikTok, and you know people are calling you this and that, and I'm like, I don't care.

I've lost way too many people like I've lost and seen thirty two people die, six friends, and then my dad, grandfather, and then you know, my buddy just recently. But you know, I've seen a lot of death. I've seen. My son was miraculously healed when he was born. He's only two years old. He was diagnosed with hyper uh glaucemia or hyperglascemia I believe that's the name of it, where his blood sugars were too far down. We had to test his blood three times because it was below

ten. After we brought him back to the hospital in less than twenty four hours, he turned blue within like an hour. And then we stayed two weeks in the hospital, and they said we were gonna be on a medicine called hype diazoxide, which is a thousand dollars a month after insurance, and this is gonna be for the rest of the life. We were booking plane tickets to Philadelphia, the only hospital that specializes in this, and we prayed

and I fasted in prayer. And there's certain things that only come out with fastening in prayer. And I'm not saying that anybody who's going through struggles and that you know, got to answer his prayer and you know he does answer prayers just in his time. But I can tell you that after we fasted and prayed, we brought him home. We were about to go to phil Pladelphia and pricking him every three hours for the first seventeen days of his life.

His blood sugars as soon as we brought him home quadrupled. And we sent an email to the doctor and called the every person because we thought he was going to die because he was on the other side of the four, five, six, seven, eight hundred and his blood sugars after being in the you know, tens and fifties for the first seventeen days of his life, his blood sugars, and they called itself resolving hyper hyperinsulinism. That's what

the word is, hyper insulinism. One in fifty thousand babies have that and very few of them get out of that. And the Lord's miraculous he healed that. That's why I'm like, prayer is the most powerful thing we have on this planet. That we can communicate with the Creator, the God who created the heavens and the earth, and we have access to his throne room. And uh, it's something that shouldn't be taken in right now we need to all be praying for for our friends and family who are not saved.

And uh and I personally just because me. I mean, people judge me all the time. Will Ryan, You're you're losing so much credibility. I Who am I losing credibility with the people who are already saved? Well, that's fantastic. You know, I don't care about them. I want to go after people who are not saved, especially if we if our time is short. I don't care about my name. I don't want the name of Jesus to be glorified. You know, amen to that? And may I

just ask he's off. He didn't need the medicine after all, never ever again, it was like we brought him home or to answer prayer. Never not once. It was like a dreaming. It was a three weeks and prayer. You can't tell me that prayer doesn't prayer doesn't you know? You know? Then, my my uncle Sante's very similar to switch. Had so many things. I was thinking about your guy who was just on and such

a deep faith. That guy who was on recently he was talking about how you know Jesus's face was disfigured and he's like man that like, you know, maybe God is so humble and that he's going to be disfigured. Nobody could recognize him and in the garden and I'm like that guy his faith. It was it was admirable to see that level of thought and deep connection. You know, that guy was awesome. So many great guests by the way,

but just I feel honored again just to be here. And you know, it's such a great platform to get to get this out because people who do know the truth, they're they're turning to this to lean for information and also counseling, you know, and just it's it's comforting to hear these things because other people, there's a lot of other people who feel this way. We just not. We just might not be in close proximity to one another. For my uncle, same thing, fitting all overdose. Pray for him.

He actually more actually came up and lifted off the bed in the hospital. My niece whenever, she's actually a marine now, I actually officiated her wedding just last year and she she drowned in a pool. Was blue that and we were at a pool and my aunt had one did one last lap. She was two years old. I started speaking in my prayer language,

and you know, we had a circle of people who started praying. A nurse just happened to be walking down the side, and they called the ambulance and she came there, gave her mouth to mouth, and immediately she came back to life blue. Yeah, she wouldn't have been here right now without prayer. I can tell you that there's no coincidences. Right, that nurse is just not walking by. You know that the Lord knew at the right

time. He knows every one of us at the right time, at the right place, and he's the guy to yesterday, today and tomorrow, and he never changes. And his word is something that you can stand upon. Boy, that word counseling is something that I don't take lightly. And I talk about how everybody has their journey through life. And you know, being a noncommissioned officer in the army, part of your job is every month and

every day, especially when you're deployed. You have soldiers who are young new parents and you know they've been away from their children for six, eight, ten months, and you know they get the letter in the mail and there's problems. It's it's something that I thank God that you know, it was a hard journey. But I think that's part of the reason I have a little bit of wisdom. And also all my soldiers for different backgrounds, different

ages, different races, and it's just I've seen it all. And I think that's one of the reasons that I'm able to kind of talk to just about anybody. And it's because of the journey that God took me through to get where I am today. And then now hear in your stories and all the miracles that you witnessed firsthand and the way that you deliver your story. How I don't know how people can't see that God is sitting above us,

you know, above the firmament. Why watching us like grasshoppers, right, and that what the Bible says, You can't be too far away if he sees us like grasshoppers. Yeah, exactly. I haven't had somebody who's new to the podcast messaged me to Danny sent a picture of the sunlight coming through the clouds. He said, George, I'm new to your podcast, and you know, I was driving down the road I took this picture. If the sun was really ninety three million miles away, would the rays look like

this? And I said, bingo, buddy, welcome to flat Earth and these temple truths that like that, that like the people jump through so many hoops to not see it. Yep, And why do you let me ask you that? Why do you think that is? Why do you think it takes? Now? Part of it is we've kind of already mentioned with the very well planned out the Rockefeller's school system and everything else. But at the

end of the day, why are people so hesitant? Again? We can stand around the water cooler and talk the moon landing all day, whether that's legit or not, but something that is legitimately directly related to it, why is that sort of visive? Church has been silent on it for a long time. There's no truth that's been told in a very long time. You your father, your grandfather, your great grandfather, your great great grandfather.

The church has been silent on this for a long time now. I can't say I guess too long ago, because you know, people didn't really really believe in the globe until they started seeing the grave and images that NASA put us out. They don't put out any pictures, they put out graven images. And they'll tell you that every one of them are touched up CGI photos, which is a grave in image that says, do not make for yourselves anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the waters. Grave and

images, and that's all they do. They literally banned the word Jesus seven years ago. Did you know that? Spipe it in NASA bans the word Jesus. They can't have, they can't have that name that is above every other, just just glorified, and because it shuts down their demonic activity. That's the other thing. Man, if you're if you're not a Christian and you're a flat earther, how how can you not see that God's creation and

that that we've been all been Like to I don't get that. I know that, Like I don't know what the statistics are and who knows, but ninety eight percent of flat earthers are Christians. But like, how can you be a flat earther like Rob Skiba, I don't believe he was a Christian and under David Weiss eventually flipped. But man, how can you be a Christian? How can you believe in flat earth and not see that this is this lines that perfectly with the Bible and which is why I believe that it's

bringing so many atheists, which is their religion. Their religion is science. You know, they blinded you with science. If you haven't listened to that song, that's a really funny song. That's so good. I love it when it comes on on my videos or something. I'm gonna say, but I can't remember. Yeah, it's by the way. I thought. I'm pretty sure Rod was he was a pastor, wasn't he. What's there was somebody who was a famous flat earth who was not a Christian. Yeah,

there's no bo out there, but I'm pretty sure Rob Sky. But it certainly was good. I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, but I'm looking at the story right here, and I don't know how this was. Twenty sixteen NASA bands the word Jesus. The name of Jesus is not welcome in

the Johnson's Space centern imagine that named after LBJ. According to a complaint filed on behalf of a group a group of Christians who work for NASA, the JSC Praise and Worship Club, was directed by NASA attorneys to refrain from using the name Jesus in the club announcements that appear in the Space Center newsletter. Wow, it's kind of a big deal. Thank you for reading that.

The word Jesus, every name will bow, every every person, everything will bow to the name of Jesus. And if you're here after the rapture, after the Christians are gone or the alien the fake demonic alien invasion takes over, and you're still here, I just want to say, start an underground church. Be careful, be wise, but all everything must bow to the name of Jesus. Okay, So, if you ever encounter these demonic beings

in your life, no matter what it is. You listen to the stories about anybody who has had an alien encounter, they all say they feel this great dread, this fear. Well, that's because they're demons. And that's how people feel when they encounter demons, no matter how you want to call them. Look into Alistair Crowley, the alien they called aliens for Alistair, you know, they call them after his name. And what a demonic just this crazy rabbit trail that a flat earth brings you to so many truths and

but yeah, the name of Jesus will make everything bow. So that's that's just FYI. If you ever encounter a demon just call out the name of Jesus. And that's for anything you don't know what to pray, just call out the name of Jesus. You know he's here, he's listening, and he's only a short however many miles what what do you think how high do you think the firmament is. I've heard thirty seven miles. I've heard seventy

three miles that that's what? What have you heard? What? What do you think I've heard up to like thirty four hundred miles between thirty two and thirty four hundred, and you know, you know flights, they're like, oh, well, if it's not close, why don't we just go fly up there. I'm like, the average I'm the average commercial flight is only five to seven miles high. Yeah, like, you're not going seventy two

miles high. But even if it's at seventy two, so you're Jesus and God they're right there above us. And you know, the people who've lost somebody, that's the other thing that it brings you so much comfort. They're like, God's right there, man, he's he's close, and he's watching. Yeah. The highest plane, I'm pretty sure the U two airplane and which, by the way, if you google it, the very first picture you will see is the U two and the globe behind it. It's hilarious.

But that's seventy thousand feet, so that's what twelve eleven miles or so between eleven and twelve miles, and that's that's pretty high. And according to them, they're in outer space almost so again, obviously it would be lower the closer, you know, you get to the Antarctica, but it's at its apex. I've heard quite a quite a varying range of, you know, different answers. Of course, I want to buy a nineteen fifty seven encyclopedia because in there they have the dome, the sky, the sky ice,

the firmament listed in the encyclopedia. From Operation High Jump they recorded a thirteen thousand feet, which is like, you know, a little more than

two miles. That's right. And Mark sergeant, who I'm interviewing next, he thinks nineteen fifty six was the big year when they decided to run with it, which is it makes sense World War two that really went until then forty eight was the United Nations and then High Jump and Dominic and I think, yeah, probably somewhere in the mid fifties is when they one hundred percent

realized that we were in an enclosed system. And again, if word got out, then that would prove creation and they couldn't have that and that. Yeah. The other thing I wanted to mention is remember those movies, even from the twenties and thirties and forties, they always started out with the globe and it was spending universal pictures and that. So they've been this is something that's been planned out, maybe even going back to Copernicus in the fifteen hundreds.

And I think that's the one part of the Reformation that they leave out is that Martin Luther was very much anti heliocentrism. And there are writings and you can find them again on yandex and Brave and on different websites that I think it was fifteen I'm just off the top of my head. I could be completely wrong, but I want to say it was fifteen thirty two when

they were at dinner together and he said, you're a fraud. And heliocentrism is basically, you know, hiding God and is of the Satan's work. And again I'm spitballing here. I don't remember exactly, but I remember that. But yeah, given enough information that we can go research, which is why I love this podcast. Yeah, another rabbit hole to go down to. Let me ask you this, because you mentioned the alien deception a few

times. How do you think they are going to present, whether it's a project blue Beam, how do you think they're going to present this next big great deception of the aliens. I believe that they're going to try to combine all the religions into one, that Muhammad, Jesus, and Buddha are all of them in the sky and they're projecting it and they're going to cut some say that all of them have come together and it's all one God, and you know, we need to march towards this. It's their one world religion.

They have holographic stuff that you wouldn't even imagine. I work on a couple of secret projects just with the government for my company with smart cart and uh man, it is. It's crazy the technology that they have. And they're always, like you said, twenty to thirty years fifty years in front of us before they release stuff. Uh and in their way advanced more than

us. That's why it's like there was a Bible scripture that says there will be times in the end that there will be fearful sights in the sky, you know in scripture. Even look that verse up that may not see if I can find it. But you know, everything that they're putting in the in the sky, it's all fake, you know. And they're gonna try to do the one world religion. That's that's what everything's marching towards. I

mean, that's what they want. Yeah, has it? The pope and one of the big Muslim leaders in Middle East already started working on something like that. I know, I've read that. The three they have the three buildings that you're over in Jerusalem in the Middle East, they have the Catholic, the Muslim and the what's the third big one, oh Judaism. They have all three of those buildings right there that they're trying to put together.

And those three that you know, the Catholic Church is the seat of the serpent like that is that is the false church. That is. I love how one of the guys on the podcast put that the Pope that he could be the Antichrist. That position, the position could be the Antichrist. But you know, the son of tradition gets confused with the Antichrist. And you know, you can read into a lot of these scriptures, but you can't get past the fact of whenever you walk into a Catholic church, how dead

you just feel. And you just you feel like the life has just sucked out of you. And I'm sorry that it's just true the Holy Spirit, and I'm not saying anything, but there are some Catholics, several people. I'm from the South. When you're kidding me, there's a you're not telling me that every Catholic is going to hell. No, if you call upon the name of Jesus Christ, you shall be saved. Do you repent of your sin? You call upon the name, you shall be saved. Period

in a story, that's it bock stop and barrel. But the Catholic Church in general, the elites, the Pope, everybody else. Oh yeah, that seat of the serpent. You know, they're marching towards one world religion and it's coming fast, and it's coming like a freight train. They have it there. You know. Let's talk about Elon Musk and the neural link that he has, you know, I mean, that's you know, in Amazon with their whole foods, scan scanning of the palm or the hands.

And I just want to make a clear distinction here. The Bible says that the mark of the beast, which is not going to come out until halfway through the tribulation, but that is that is in your hand or in your forehead, not on that's in your hand or in your forehead. And I don't know what it is. I'm just saying that that's a clear distinction that we need to understand. And you know, look those verses up well done. And my other question for you was do you have a plan? Is

that something you plan on bringing forth to your to your congregation soon? Is that something you're considering. So I was the administrative pastor for a church over here, and man, I still actually go there. They have they've asked me and I said yes to remove myself off of staff. And it was a long story, but there's still a lot of tender relationships than I love every one of these people at the church. But they've asked me. I

was the administy pastor. I wasn't the senior pastor, I wasn't the associate. I was the administrator. So I kind of dealt with the business side of things. Okay, I'm a very good with organizing. And you know, like we have a thing called Shepherds of sheet Rock, you know, the hurricane rolls in which if this comes out on August twenty nine, you know, we all know that in down in South Louisiana, Ida and Hurricane Katrina. You know, it's like life before COVID and after COVID, well

before COVID came. It was life pre Katrina versus first post Katrina done here in New Orleans. But I'll just say that there's a lot of family and elders that I'm reaching out to. And the Bible says that the end time church will become apostate. It calls us that Laodicean church, the lukewarm church. And uh, man, once you realize this truth, you ain't lukewarm no more, and you ain't gonna be a part of that lukewarm church. Uh. You know, once you realize the lies and the deception that the

enemy is done, you know. Yeah, And uh that's that that's tough. And uh it's the same for me. I try to have conversations and it's that, like you said, it's the cognitive dissonance, and it's like right here in the Bible. And even to me I mentioned this before, I think it brought more truth to and understanding. I guess I should say, really more understanding to the Tower of Babel. Right. You read the chapter what's that Genesis six and it says specifically that they were using brick and

order. It wasn't figurative or literal backwards, long day, too much fun, But you know, and these are the things. We have to stop picking and choosing what is literal and what is figurative. And for me, I'm sure, very much like yourself, flat Earth connected all those doubts together. I think that's the biggest jump. That once you see the world for what it is and the lies in the deception, that you can you can remember how you used to believe the Earth was a globe. That's easy.

You used to think about how ridiculous that somebody was who called themselves a flat earth. I don't think that once your eyes are open, you can't see that connection. You can't see what you just said. You can't see that connection anymore because your eyes are so open and you see the truth for what it is, and you see the enemies, lies, and the deceptions that you can't go back. You can't put yourselves in that, in your shoot

in their shoes anymore. And that's where I think. You know, my mom, she's going back and forth, and she's a she's like you know, she was a spiritual rock of her family and you know, grew up in a symbolis of God church and just you know, loving the Lord and always been close to the Lord since she was young. And me and my mom are close, you know, and me and my wife are close. My wife she gets it, she's she gets it one hundred lockstop and bear.

My mom is she's she's fifty percent, I'd say fifty to seventy five percent, which I know is more than what a lot of people can get their families. And I'm so grateful that I have friends and family that will listen and understand me. But I'll just say this to you know, referencing the movie that you know, they Alive, They alive. You can find it for free online somewhere. But you know, not everybody can handle not everybody can handle that, and they will fight you and for that reason,

for that reason alone. If somebody can fight me so much on scripture after I showed them this that confirms this ever so much more and because it's so divisive and because it's so cutting. You know, I met cam Newton at the airport, so I managed, you know, one of my locations. I take care of the New Orleans airport. Right, he just flew in a couple of days ago, and have a picture with him, and I was like, it's funny as I took a picture of him with a right

number nine right above him. And he knows who the real goat is, Drew Brees. I was, I was laughing talking with him. But you know, he's so you know, he's very he's very worldly. And he asked me, he asked me, what does the Bible say? I know, you have a pastor what does the Bible say about you know? Uh uh, what's we have multiple wives? Oh? Olgamy? Yeah, what's the vibele saying about poligamy? And he said, don't use that old Testament

news Testament stuff because he's got several girlfriends right now. And he was one validation for his sin, you know, if people want validation for his sin. And I'm like, listen, bro, I'm not giving you validation because the Bible is very clear. God made one man and one woman. That's

it. That's what he made, and you can't go past that. That's why it's so important to understand what the scripture is actually saying, and you have to dig into the root word or so I'm like again, if you don't have the blue Letter Bible, a come on, download it right now, stop it doing, pause it. I want you to download blue Letter Bible or just look up blue Letter Bible in your computer and there you go,

look at strongest concordinates. You have everything. And then the guy, I don't want to I don't want to bash anybody because you had a lot of stuff. But I did want to say one thing about the whole changing of the word of the Lord, and thank you sir for being so respectful as you always are. But first of all, the word of the Lord does not change. Yeah, they can remove stuff, but God is going to give us four of the times and the seasons that we need. He's

going to preserve his word. The word of God does not change. In this whole cern changing the word of God. No, stop that rabbitro right now. You made a great list, and I don't know if you have a link to this somewhere, but you put a list of all the Triple six is regarding the cosmology of the Earth, and the link that I have for that document, it's I don't want to I'm embarrassed to say. It's one hundred and five pages long. Wow, But it's got a lot of

good stuff in there. Yeah, it's it's However, yes, you listed thirty three of them, and I'm glad you chose that number, thirty three, But uh, three is the number? What do you what'd you say? Well, you listed thirty three of them here and that's the big number of the Freemasons is thirty three. Yeah, listen to me. Okay, this is this is the Lord, and let me let me give credit to God. Every single day I've been asking the Lord. I'm like, God, I don't want I mean, first of all, he says, for

your persecution for my name, they'll be rewards in heaven. But I'm like, I don't. I mean, who in the right line wants to have this? Nobody wants this to meddle in persecution. I mean, I don't care if it's for fame or not. This is like ridicule out to the end degree, like, why would you want this? Every single day multiple times he shows me thirty three. He shows me three three three every single

day. And this is the other thing that when I was praying to him, he looked me up at three thirty three in the morning, he said, go out and look at the stars, and he's like, they're twinkling because they're underneath the water is suspended in water, the waters above the firmament, right, And I'm like, oh my god, that's what I just like, that's when it fell, and I just broke and I just was crying, and you know, I'll rattle them off. Thank you for saying

that there's thirty three of them. I had no idea that even listed them that way, But you're ready. The Earth's axis is tilted at an angle of sixty six point six degrees. The Earth's orbit the Sun at a speed of sixty six thousand, six hundred miles per hour. The Earth's circumference is six hundred times six times six nautical miles. The speed of sound is get

this, six hundred and sixty six knots per second. And oh also I verified all these with the all powerful Google and the index by the way, but I wanted to make sure this information was accurate, so don't think I didn't do my homework. The force of gravity is six hundred and sixty six Newton's and that formula is six point six seven times ten to the whatever, negative eleventh whatever, Newton, Bolognian, whatever you want to call it.

The Arctic and Antarctic circles, by the way, they call them circles for a reason, because they're circles right at the exact sixty six point six degrees north and south latitude. Astronaut Peggy Whitson spent six hundred and sixty six days in space. The distance to the Moon is six times sixty times six six six. The diameter of the Moon is six six time sixty. The sunset is divided into three phases. Civil twilight six degrees not up with twilight twelve

degrees in astronomical twilight eighteen degrees. From Mercury, the sun is six hundred and sixty six times brighter than it appears from Earth. Venus has a surface temperature of four hundred and sixty four degrees celsius in eight hundred and sixty seven degrees fahrenheit. Now, the median of those two temperatures. Yes, you are correct, six six six. I know it's just coincidence, is it? Now that I said median, not the mean, not the average.

So if you're gonna try to back up some stuff, I'm speaking clearly, is that one point six six six astronomical miles from the Sun is a philion is the farthest point from the star Saras a dwarf planet, is an asteroid belt has a snotic period of four one hundred and sixty six point six days. The comet shoemaker Levy nine collided with Jupiter in nineteen ninety four, traveling at a speed of six times six times six times one thousand kilometers per hour.

The six planet Saturn's orbital distance from the Sun is one point four two six six six six four sixes four two two kilometers. The surface temperature of Neptune is negative six times six times six degrees celsius flutes. Orbital velocity is four point six six six kilometers. The six planets saturn north pole has a

hexagonical shape with six sides and six points and two more guys. A day on the Earth is twenty three hours fifty six minutes but we round it to twenty four hours, and this becomes a number of twenty four is a multiple of six. Kepler's third law of motion states that the square the planet's orbital speed around the Sun is a mathematical equation, and that K that Kepler and that Kepler's equation is six six six, because the value of K is point

six six six. And the number to call the Swiss Switzerland company that makes the NASA's plans for the rockets, oh yeah, six six six right in their phone number. And it's a real company, Like just look up NASA Switzerland Motor Company on Google and yeah, it's crazy, It's absolutely crazy. Carbon is the six basic building lock block of life. Six proton, six neutron, six electrons, and in the case of carbon, the autonomic number is six. That means the carbon must have six proton, six neutrons,

and six electrons. And that's it. I'm done. Yeah, I think it's called videos several times did you have that on a TikTok? I tried to do it. They removed it. Why did they say? Why? No, they did it, And here's the thing, they let everything fly. Yeah, almost it was almost too much information that they were like, this is non inclusive. That's I think that's the reason of the way I

gave it, that everybody needs to be on TikTok or. And I thought it was maybe because I mentioned Paggy, that Peggy the astronaut living six hundred and sixty six days in space, But like I removed her out of it, and they still struck it five or six times on both of my accounts. Yeah, so they don't want that information out of there. That's interesting. Yeah, Max and Motor Company in Switzerland. Their phone number is four one six six six one five zero zero. Nothing to see here. Move

along, folks. It's a quarter in the Clinton jar right there. Yeah, there we go. I just added one man. That's you brought so much information, a lot of positivity, but also a lot of stories of overcoming a lot of stuff and perseverance and the fact that you have brought over three hundred people to Christ and that is life changing. It is certainly paying it forward. And I hope you continue in your convictions because there's a lot

of people out there and I completely get it. But I think in order for us to really if we're going to continue to win over at a rate that we need to and like you said, I have heard from multiple people that next month I think between I think that third week of September is going to be very interesting. Is that we need to get people awake and closer to God and understand that anything that comes across your television is a psy op and it's to invoke in a reason, excuse me, to invoke an emotion

and a reaction. Every single one of these psyops over the last going back one hundred and fifty years has been cleverly adapted and constructed. Our matrix has been developed for us to work, you know, sixty hours a week, and they give it, give us enough bread and circus to kind of take that focus off of God. And again, heliocentrism is one of the greatest deceptions out there. And we are I'm seeing like yourself too, and the emails and the comments, we are winning a lot of people over and for

me, it's full speed ahead. And I know you're going to continue to move forward with your passion and your convictions as well. Thank you for doing what you do. And John three sixteen for God so love the world that he gave us one and only son. But whoever believes in him, should not perish and have everlasting life. Amen to that, and then we'll be

able to link your TikTok's into the show description as well. Yes, sir, it's a at Ryan L. McCray r y A N L mccr a y and I have have another account with Rhyan McCray, but look for that specific one. But yeah, we'll post that in the podcast notes. Perfect was there anything that we that you wanted to mention that you didn't have a

chance to touch on yet? Thank thankful for you being a faithful servant of the Lord and allowing people to have a voice, because it's important for for everybody to realize that God's word you can stand upon and uh, it's not it's not something you should be ashamed of. And I'm glad to see you.

You are very strong in your convictions, and I'm very thankful that we have folks like yourself putting on the armor of God moving forward and not being concerned of what other people think of us, because that is, honestly, it's a big hurdle amongst other people that they're worried that the way they'll be looked at. I was listening to an old Mark Sargent clip from five years ago. He was interviewing a Dutch pilot who happened to have a conversation.

She was a co pilot, had a conversation about flat Earth with her pilot and the next thing you know, they had they put her on medical leave and she had to see a psychiatrist. But she ended up coming forth and saying, this is what I believe, and I don't think that we no matter how crazy it might sound to some people, this is what I believe, and I'm going to stand strong in my convictions for everyone like you and that young lady there. There's a lot of people, and I get it.

People have jobs, they have to feed their family. But if you're at all possible, you know, be strong in your convictions and don't worry about what other people say, because if you know what's true, then then why why bathe in the lies just to fit in. It's not as bad as you think it is. Because I heard somebody say that there's three stages in life. The first stages you care about what everybody thinks. The second

stage is you realize that nobody cares what you think. And then the third stage, because you realize that nobody was thinking about you in the first place. Well said, Well, listen, folks, we will have all of these links in the show description, and if you want to reach out to Ryan, please do and make sure you subscribe to his TikTok channel. And I think I'm at the point where I probably need to make one as well. It's one of the few places left, I guess where you can actually

post stuff and not get unless you post on that particular aspect. Yeah, but it's been a tremendous ninety minutes. Thank you for your time, thank you for your knowledge, and most importantly, thank you for your passion. You know. It's I've been, you know, for four years away to flat Earth, and I still feel that passion. That's the one thing. It doesn't go away enough. So I made a completely separate podcast just for

this. That's how important I do think it is, because, like you said, like the emails I get, it is leading people back to So ladies and gentlemen, that is our friend Ryan from New Orleans. What a really cool place to visit. I spent three years in Fort Pok, Louisiana, and I spent a few weekends down there in my young years enjoying the fun down there, great music, great people, and I'm glad to see y'all have bounced back from Katrina. And thank you to all the listeners who

continue to support us and your emails and your kind words. And I want to thank everyone so for Ryan, I am George for the Flat Earth Files podcast. God bless everyone. Keep your head on a swivel and until the next time we meet, my friends, we will see h