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to bring on our special guest for the evening and please help us. Welcome Steve. Steve, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Hello, how are you doing good? It's always good to have a fellow or a fellow podcast or on. Go ahead and introduce yourself to the folks. My name Steve. Live up in East Tennessee in the mountains, and we just decided, you know, you got to fight back, and so we watched everything be perverted. Everything, it don't matter what it is, Satan's got
his hands in it. And so we decided to take his church, and so we started a podcast. It's called a Church of Satan and it's God's fight Club. You know, it's we're fighting for souls. And you know, you got the devil on one side and God on the other, and we all know who wins in the end. But what most people forgets what happens with the small battles, and that's the people's soul. And if you gotta you gotta fight you know, and that's basically all it is. We're
on Spotify, Churches, Layton, a couple other places. Yeah, and I did link your spotify, your podcast for Spotify in the show descriptions, so everyone that you don't have to go searching for it. Just go to the show description and click on the link and it'll take you a right to Steve's podcast. Tell us a little bit about your journey to the truth. When did you kind of become awake? I know it's a multi step process and then we all get to a point where we realize it's a spiritual battle,
right. You know, at first it's sometimes it starts out as cool conspiracies, and then we realize it's good versus evil. Very much. You realize that with your podcast. Yeah, Mine, I grew up in church, and I've kind of always felt like I needed to do something. I've had. My grandmother's brother was a preacher there. Some of their earlier keen folks were preachers, and you know, these are some of the snake candler or types. I've been to those churches when they're doing flips down the aisles
and yelling and screaming, and it's seen a little bit of everything. But then I've got nephews that are preachers, brother in laws that are preachers, and I have always run away from it. I've never wanted to do it. I've always kind of done stuff my own, you know, like I've been talented where I could make a living with my hands. I could pretty
much fix about anything. But I kind of stayed out of the realm preaching, and I've always kind of been felt like I needed to, but I've ran from it, and I've been beat up, had three heart attacks, you know, every time he kind of takes a little piece of him, you know, it just kind of slaps you around and you kind of you kind of get there. But I've been I don't know, I've I've been seeing stuff with the government. I followed politics pretty much since the nineties.
I mean i'm older, Um, so you know, I've kind of seen it. And it's the same people over and over, and they all lie, they all got a twelve step plan that they're gonna do something, and all they do is just take your money. Um. And then once you see them why, and you know, then you start questioning everything and it's like, you know, the the moon, the whole the whole thing, and you just it. They just lie, is basically it. And once you start lying, you start digging. It's about everything. I mean,
everything they do is a lie. I mean everything, and it just kind of wakes you up. And so here lately, I've had some other stuff going on and kind of got hit pretty hard with some brain stuff. I had a couple of crany automnies and had radiation on the brain and I pretty much, I don't know. I didn't want to go knock on the door the pearly gates and you know, him be like, what have you done
for me? You know? I mean I've I've always kind of had a walk with him, you know, kind of a relationship, but I've always run away from him. But you know, and if you if you open your eyes, and and that's the part I guess I don't get is and some were I can't remember. There's things I forget now that they've been poking
around on my brain for last year and a half. You know, where it's talking about where some people can't see, you know, it'll get to the point to where they can't see it and the believers can see it. And I think we're there I mean, because these people can't be that stupid. And that's the only way I know how to put it. I mean, they're they're blind. They absolutely cannot see what's going on, because it don't matter where you look. I mean, boys stand up to pee,
girls squat to pee. It don't change. It's kind of like you know then, to me, that's kind of where it started when they started that
stuff. That and and that that's actually been about ten years when that first, you know, you started seeing it, and you know then once you get to look and and then you know, and then if you go back into the Bible, I mean, you know, and like where you're coming on the flat earth, you know, it does talk about the four pillars or the earth that's you know, God put these, you know, like Gen One fourteen, you know, and where he's talking about placing the sun
and the moon, and then he makes the seasons. And then where my where mine come in at was Jesus was on the face of the earth. We know that. And I'm a believer in Jesus. And he was tempted, He was tempted by the devil for forty days, you know, Matthew four Luke, I think it's Luke one, you know, like where they're talking about it, and it says that, you know, he was tempted, Satan was here. Well, Jesus died and left, where did Satan go? That's kind of where I've been at, and you know, and
it said that he was taken away for a season. Well, then if you go back to Genesis, it's kind of not too hard to see that. You know, you can't say that the season was however long. It says right there in Genesis one fourteen that you know, he put the moon in the sun in the in the firmament, and it's for the seasons, for the days, and so he was gone for a season, and that means he's still here. And then if he's still here, you know,
everything here is his. This we're not in. You know, everybody thinks that we're waiting on the you know, the anti Christ to show up. I think he's here. I mean, I think at all times we've always had an anti Christ. It's just where where we're at in society. If he manifests himself, I guess is you know, I it's kind of going down another rabbit hole. But if you go back and you look at time.
Then you can go to NPR's website and in search. I believe it's the amount of people that were populating the Earth during Jesus's time on Earth, and NPR's website will tell you, you know, it was like one hundred and seventy four million. I'm thinking that somewhere's right than that. It's been
a minute since I've looked. But then you get out eight hundred years and we're one hundred and eighty million, and then all of a sudden, it just blows up from that point and you know, it's talking about Satan's realm, you know, reign of a thousand years on the Earth, and I think we're in that time. I think that time is up. You know, if you look at when Jesus was sacrificed and then you start adding it. I mean, if you can't believe anybody, you know, like the
Winners of the Wars writes the history. I'm a weapons guy. I love weapons. And if you go back and you just start research, and I guess that's where I started digging around in it. There's like a the history from two thousand, you know, years ago to a thousand years ago is pretty up in the air. I mean, you can't really find a lot
of books, you can't really find a lot of anything. And you know, everybody says, you know, Rome fell, you know right around that time three hundred what was it, three hundred, you know, eighty after the death of him, But it never it never did, you know, you got the Roman Catholic Church, the Jesuits, you know. I mean, so it Rome never did fall. It's still kind of just went. Yeah, it's still there. They just change cities. They got their own
country inside of another country that you can't screw with them. That's I mean, you know, so it kind of when you start looking at the whole time factor, I mean, nothing, nothing makes sense. And if they lie about one thing, why wouldn't they lie about something else? And if this is Satan's Earth right now, why wouldn't it, Why why wouldn't it you know what I'm saying. I mean, it's just more every where you dig, it's just more questions and nothing. You can't get answers basically on
anything. And then when you start seeing the people how they're blind, you know, I mean, it just you just gotta wonder, like what's going on? I mean, like it just doesn't make sense. And then you know, you could even get back and I kind of go into the Night's templar, you know, because they were around in Jerusalem, you know, I supposedly they got you know, all the relics King David, you know,
Solomon's tune, and the Catholics wanted that. Um if if they had something that was so important that it would open the eyes of everybody, you know, in the Arch of the Covenant, I don't I don't know what it was. But why did France, you know, on that Friday the thirteenth, why did you know? Basically the Catholics had them killed, and you know they they kind of run. They didn't kill all of them.
Um, I mean that you can't kill the idea. And so now when they if they're here, you know in the United States, they kind of come, you know, it kind of shows them thirteen hundred ishes, you know, when all that happened in like thirteen sixty. Supposedly they could be here. They they might not be here, but they could be here. You don't you know, there's no they're not going to show you any true facts. And if you're looking for the Smithsonian to show you facts, they're
not going to show you nothing. So if the Knights Templar was good, why not mix it in with the Freemasons and make them bad. And because you know, when you now you get into the Civil War or even even the Revolutionary War. So basically you got Britain, France and America and we're fighting and Britain kind of gets scared because they know that they can't. They were too far away for that technology for them to come over here and conquerors.
You know, they were the largest army in the world at the time, you know, and but they it was too vast of a land. They just got done fighting the Seven Year War here and they took a pretty good licking. They won, but France did give it to them. And they always fight. They're all kin to each other, and the upper echelance never gets killed. They're just killing the people, which they really don't care
about. It's kind of like a you know, hey, I beat you, and they're sitting around to Thanksgiving dinner and they're laughing and then I'll get you next time, and then here they go on another fight. I mean, I know it's not quite like that, but it's pretty deadburned close that bloodline is pretty tight, you know. Yeah, even you know through Russia, through all of them World War one, War two, they're all kind.
But then when you get so if you if if they thought by chance that they could lose, or if they thought themselves of making another empire stronger. Now they have America, which is a fighting arm. They have London, and then you have the Catholics. You know, you have Rome, you have the Triangle right there, and basically France at that point in time
was the Catholic Church. You know, they leaned more well, they've always leaned towards everybody, the French. That's why we always said they fight best in the reverse. Um. You know, so if they kind of all got together and they're like, okay, let's let America go, you know, do its own thing, but we will put our people in control. They don't really care what's happening in the civilized population as long as they're in control of it. And so then you get into the freemasonry. And my
grandfather was a Scottish rite high up. He worked for Martin Marietta or Old Christian National Laboratory. I remember when I was a kid going to he was pretty high up. I mean he he drove in nineteen seventy seven and Green Chrysler New York or brand New. I was born in sixty seven, so I was ten year old, probably eleven year old. We went to he drove to Woolwa, Kentucky from Knoxville here and we pulled in at the ge
plant which made the big big motors. And he had a parking spot that said reserved and it had his name on it, and it was like three doors from the main entrance. When he walked in, it's like it's like you see in the movie. Everybody you know, jumped up and you know, old mistress, someone's how you doing, you know, everybody taking his coat, taking his hat. He had his own office, but he was from the Doe was he was the government, you know, and he if
he didn't sign it, they wasn't getting paid. And I remember, you know, I took a tour of that place, and you know, I'm standing up in the middle of a motor and I'm not even half the size of the inside windings of a motor. I mean, these things are huge. But anyway, that's still that's Papa, you know. But um, if you go back to and I get sidetrack. You gotta gotta watch me. I can talk about anything for any any amount of time. You're good,
I do. I already have a bunch of questions written down, but I'll wait for you to go ahead and finish your all right, all right, but so so if if now if America is being controlled and in Britain and France and they're all in, and okay, now now we have all of America. So no matter what happens, we're in control of America. Well then you get these people that are the Knights of the Golden Circle, and they they pop up. Well, I kind of been a firm believer
that the Freemasons were not the Knights Templar. They were more towards the Knights of the Golden Circle. And it goes all the way down to the Caribbean, the Gulf of Mexico. From a military point back in that error, you wanted to control that Panama Canal area because it wouldn't a Panama Canal at that time, and you wanted the narrowest part of that land, and you
wanted to control everything because you controlled both sides. You controlled the Mississippi, and that was what the federal government was trying to fight during the Civil War, and everybody makes it about slavery. It didn't have nothing about slavery because we're all slaves now, so they can't say that it was about slavery because now they won, and instead of a few people being slaves, were all slaves. So they wrote the history, you know, and nobody should be
enslaved, but now everybody's enslaved. So if you if you put those two people together, you know, the Knights Templar and the Knights of the Golden Circle, and if you look at the amount of people and the amount of states that was actually fighting, then you've got the Confederal of the Confederates, and then you had the Civil War. But you had you know, Jesse James, you know John Wilkes, Booth, you know all of them. All those people were Knights of the Golden Circle. So this was no little
thing. It was It's way bigger. And most most people, even in the conspiracy world, they don't really they just Nights of the Golden Circle and they blow it off. They don't really realize how big and how deep it was and how much money that they actually funneled in, and so they kind of got beat and you got the Civil War and now where basically where we're at now and the part that I love about the flat Earth, and if you think about it, it goes back and kind of where I'm at.
You know, when the Church Satan, the fighting, you know, trying to win souls and doing all that. I'm from the hills of Tennessee and there's one guy that sang a couple of songs, Charlie Daniels. You know the devil went down to Georgia. It's because he got kicked. He got kicked out of Tennessee. He didn't want him mirror and then he also did you know the Souse Gonna rise again? Or the South? It wasn't the souse gonna rise again. It's so I can't remember exactly the souse going to
do it again or rise again, or I don't think it's rise. I think he uses something different other than rise when I remember the souse going to do it again. But when I was growing up, I remember it's a souse gonna rise again. And I don't know if they've changed it. I don't know if it's just one of them. I think it's something different than what it is. But so now if you take that flat Earth and you take the Antarctic, and I actually have some postcards. I get to this
in a minute. Don't let me forget about from the Antarctic. From Admiral Bird's trip when they traveled down there, Um, they actually had a post office, a floating post office that went with them, and they actually mailed postcards out that stamped Antarctic on them, and it stamped the time frame that they were down there during Admiral Bird's first trip. And I actually have a
couple of those. Um. But so now if you take that that Antarctic theory and you go to the South, well everywhere, if you go south, it's everywhere. All the South is all encompassing. So basically now the South has them surrounded. So it's like, you know what a better you know, I mean, it's kind of kind of where I'm at on my thinking. That's really interesting. And you know, I've come across the Knights
of the Golden Circle before. I think the guy's name was Bickley, who was the head of it, And when I was researching them, I didn't find a whole lot about him. I think he was either a doctor or an author or something. But it was interesting because the one thing I do remember about them is that were founded on July fourth. It was somewhere between eighteen fifty and eighteen sixty when they were founded, So obviously it was in the lead up to the Civil War. If if that history actually happened,
which I kind of leaned more towards it did. Of course, we know the actual storyline has been changed. And I've done episodes at nauseum about Lincoln, and he was one of the most tyrannical, if not the most runical president in the history of this country. I made that very clear, yep.
And John Wilkes was Knights of the Golden Circle, and it was in nineteen fifty four, was when they founded it in Vio Okay, gotcha, Yeah, it sounds right, um, And there was a whole lot if you look at even there's a picture of Jesse James and his brother in Nashville at some work camp. Um, like I don't even remember what it was, but um, Jesse James's brother had his hand in his vest pocket and that was a sign back then of the Nights of the Golden Circle. And
you know how Napoleon put his hand in the vest pocket. That that is that whole. That's how far back it goes. And it continues to go um and you know, so you're talking different little branches that's popped up all during history, but it's always been there. And the one thing that's always that is always the same as that hand in their pocket or in their best pocket, or that you know between the buttons right they actually slided into their
jacket. It's called the hidden hand because it's basically saying that we are the hid in hand that controls you, and that yes, even there's pictures of George Washington doing the same thing, yep, exactly, but that was the Knights of the Golden Circle. So see he and in George Washington was supposedly a free basin, so you kind of get it. It's like they almost didn't know when they were getting tugged in both directions, and it was so they were like on the fence too, and if you got to look back,
then you know, they would kill you. They would literally string you up for nothing. And there was a bunch of the Knights of the Golden Circle people that did get that did get strung up if they found out once they started getting rid of them. If you were found out to be in the Knights of the Golden Circle, they actually strung you up. There was some political I think it was the governor of Missouri, if I'm not mistaken, one of the lieutenant governor or somebody like that. That and he might
have got out of it. But it was a big whoopie dude back in that time for room. I mean I I looked into it quite a bit because my granddad talked to a bunch. He was kind of like I am, and he rambled, and he just talked and talked, and he was a very quiet guy until he talked, and then when he talked, he didn't shut up. And there's you know, a bunch of stuff up here. You know, you're talking about the spheres. You know, we've got the Golden Ball, you know, the World's Fair. You know, you
know all the weird crap that goes on with the World's Fair. Well, we have a Golden Ball in downtown Knoxville, and you actually can look in the unless they've changed it. Lake Chehawe is on a private the only private lake on the TVA water system, and it's completely private day and it's the only lake that's private. And there is a Civil War if you in Google's map, they had like a castle like a rook that they would mark forts.
And there was actually a fort at Abrams Creek where it comes into Chihowe Lake before it was an actually lake back into Civil War time. Um, and it was so that whole little area was protected. Well, then they flooded it and they put that dam in there, and it's a privately owned lake. Well, Um, Papa always said that there was the reason part of the reason that the Cherokee that Trail of Tears that they run the Cherokee out the Indians was because that and and well, and here's another fun factor.
The Smoky Mountains National Park is on one side of the lake and on the other side of the lake is Cherokee National Forest. So it's it's a lake that is completely surrounded by federal land and it's a privately owned lake. And they had problems when Obama was in office and supposed pasably they had a leak or they drained the dam and you couldn't go on you couldn't go on
the property. You know, you could kind of walk down there, but there literally was a police officer, a state trooper of County, Blunt County officer. Um, like within one hundred yards two hundred yards of each other. They lined the whole thing. You you, I've never seen so many police in all my life really, And it was for a yeah, and it was for a private lake and you can you can research that. So why why was that there? Um? And nobody would ever tell you anything.
And the lake kind of goes off to the site. It's a very small lake, but you can't see it. Um. You know, like once you get off the roads, you're kind of like in the valley. Um. Well, Papa always said that there was a silver mine or a gold mine. I don't remember which that was up there. Supposably that was up there. And you know the there's like five Lost Treasures mines or something like that in the Smoky Mountains. I don't I don't remember exactly what it
was, but that was that was one of them. They were part of the cave system. Well, the other thing was the tied to the Mammoth Cave. Is we're about two hundred miles from the Mammoth Cave entrance in Kentucky and it's all limestone and we're kind of still in the same valleys, still in the same area, I guess you'd say. And some of the stuff I've heard is that it's part of a mind that goes all the way back into there. It's kind of like the backside of Mammoth Cave. Like you
can get into that whole cave system from that one area right there. If you get into the really weird stuff like the UFOs and all that that was supposably a site that they were mining gold, like taking it out. I don't believe in none of that stuff, but I mean, you know, I mean, but it's it's that's the stories have been there about that place, and I guess it's such just such a weird, you know area,
it makes no sense and why it's like that, you know. And I mean, and we're right here next to you know, oak Ridge National Laboratory. They could have a new facility that their story, you know, because like when um, oh, what was that guy's name that Hillary Clinton had taken out over there, Lebanon Kadafi, Yeah, yeah, whenever you know, he gave up all his nukes, Well it all flew into Alcoa up here and was taken to Oakridge National Laboratory, and very very few people even
knew that. Um. But all the nuclear all his nuclear arsenal come here, um. And so you know it could even be something tied to Olkridge. I mean, and you know, Papa knew about it, and Papa was high up and oak Ridge, So I mean, you know, he ain't gonna tell you what's happening about it, but he'd mentioned it, and if he mentioned it, it was worth digging into it kind of you know.
Yeah, so what was Let me ask you this, what was the original reason that they decided to use oak Ridge as part of you know, now that Oppenheimer's out and that's the big talk. Why was oak Ridge one of the facilities chosen for that project? The waterway, the Tennessee Water Electric Because you needed so much electric to power all the stuff that they were doing, and we had so many rivers and dams, and it was a place
that could be protected. And we're a bunch of hicks, and so nobody would think that the smartest people in the world are right here is stuck in Oakridge, Tennessee. You know, I mean it's kind of the you know, you go back to the nineteen twenties. You know, they were bringing electricity to us, poor Appalachian people, which we didn't want none of their stuff, but they kicked everybody out and built dams of waterways and there's more
power stuff that goes on here. And you have any idea, I mean, there's mega tons of power that's generated right here and it all went to oak Ridge. It was all it was made to where Oakridge would never shut down, Like if something happened, oak Ridge never lost power. I just think that was kind of the main and it was easy defended because of the mountains. Yeah, that's a good point too, just like Norad in the mountains itself in Colorado. There good points. All right. Let me backtrack
a few things before we get too far ahead. You had mentioned earlier you started following politics in the early nineties, and how do people not and I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, I'm about as sharp as a spoon, But how do these people not realize that the game is rigged? When people from the same family with a country with over three hundred million people, Why do we continue to play the politics game? How is it not so
obvious? And why do we continue to support this system, because when I was growing up, we had three TV channels, and you believed everything those people told you. You had basically two you know, one opinion, two opinions, you know, and then the third one was kind of would side
from side to side. And then all the sudden you went from three TV channels to hundreds of TV channels, and they flooded it to where there was so much input into your brain that you couldn't keep the bad signal out and people were entertained on everything else because before you never had any kind of entertainment other than you know, you'd go to a football game. You had to physically go to the football game. You didn't get to watch it or video
it or see it on somebody's phone. And they basically flooded, flooded the place with information, you know, And that's that's I think that goes back to like, you know, the full armor of God. You know, when it's talking about the helmet, I think the helmet is kind of like the most important thing because it's basically blocking your brain. And since I had the brain stuff going on, I kind of experience some of that. You know, I'm a I always have to have something being fed into my brain.
If I'm not having information put in like reading or a podcast or something being fed into my brain, almost go crazy. It's not quite like that now, but it was, and I think that that's part of that armor, and that armor. If you don't protect your head, your chest plate, the breastplate, over your heart and your soul or don't matter, you know it, you get to the brain, you win everything. Now, not everybody who's awake is necessarily religious or spiritual. Many are yourself and I
included. So the question is what do you think is the factor across the board for people who are able to see, um, this world for the fraud it is, well, what do you think is the one thing we all have in common? Fraud? For those of us who can see you just you just know something ain't right. Um. It just it's there's something in the air that I think everybody can see that is religious. Um. And you know, I get into you kind of can get in the split
into the hairs on the religious side. You know, everybody has their own variation of it. Um. You know, but it says, you know, you're you have to believe in Jesus and you have to have works and
I guess that's kind of how I feel about it. But and I think that if you don't have that, and you are have that little bit of mustard seed planted inside of you, it you can sense that or something not right, and now you start searching and because you can feel that there's something not right, and it's like, you know, hey, if I'm right and i'm or if I'm wrong, I'm good with it. I get put
in a pine box and I'm done, you know. But if I'm right, man, all the people people got a route awaiting and coming, and they're not gonna like what's coming. Yeah, that's funny. The local pastor here, he has people come up to him and says the same thing. What happens when you die and you know, you realize you spent thirty forty years of your life and you're just dead. And he turns around and says, imagine if I die and I was you know, I would have been
right. And it really makes people think, you know, it's does It makes a lot of sense um going along with your armor of God and things that this nature there's a I don't want to say a great divide, but there's a lot of people who have different answers on how we should handle this. I am leaning more towards not leaning towards, but I feel like, if we allow this evil to happen under our watch, aren't we it's just to some extent are we guilty of allowing it to happen. I'm in the
same boat as you. Um. You know, he went in and he over changed the money tables, the tax tables that it was there, and you know, everybody's like, oh, you know, it's the religion of love and you're supposed to love, and you know, no, they yeld a lot of people. They fought, They they fought and fought and fought. So you know that makes me torn so like, and I think we have to do like what we're doing. You can't just pick up your pitchfork
and go fight. You have to you have to follow. Even like during the Civil War you had the states and then the counties and you have to follow those people. But most of those people are corrupt, But then you're gonna have good people come up out of them. And I think by putting out the word like we're putting out that the more people you wake up, the less that they're being able to be seen because just look at all the
stuff, the garbage that's being showed on them. And you know that for once, I've known that there's two sides of government or two sides of the criminal justice system for a long time. If you have enough money, you can get out of about anything pretty much. You know, you might have to go, but they're gonna smack you on the hands and then you know, within a two year factor, they're gonna overturn it, or you're gonna get sense something, you know what I mean. Now people see that,
they actually see that. You know, some guy got pulled over and had weed in his car and he's doing five years or ten years. And then you've got other people in government that don't get anything. They actually they don't even their lawyers go to court, and they don't go to court, and they're committing high treason. They should be strung up, and you know, through a court of law or military not not by civilians. But I mean, you know, you have we have a trial system. We have that.
But once everything's corrupt, I mean, what do you do? I mean, what you know? The only thing I can tell you you don't don't wear flip flops. Put on your boots and just get ready because you don't shoot, don't know if it falls, is it gonna fall in a in a nice way? Is it gonna fall in a bad way. It's I've never seen a country fall in a good way. I mean, and
you've been in the military, you've seen it too. So I mean, and if you everybody out there is hoping that the United States falls because we have ruled so many people and put our fist and thumb on the scales, just like Kadafi, us kicking out Kadafi, and you could even go us so far as Saddam, who's saying you don't he was basically that guy was an American. I mean, he was part of the Yeah, I mean, so if you that's what I'm saying, it's that bloodline. And who
knows that they even killed that guy? He had loike, Yeah, I mean, And and so okay, now you get back to your flat Earth and this is what I other thing. He's probably right now in some continent we don't know. Yeah, you float around on another side and we're not allowed to go past the thirty three sixtieth parallel. Yeah, And so now they're all down there you do your thing here, you put in your time,
and then you're out. That's right. And I literally think that because if you look at how many and then now look at all these people that's just checking out that shouldn't be checking out. And so, you know, you talk about the JAB, you know, are they just getting out of here because they did it and they kind of got their free ticket out and they had to make it look like they did and then they're gone now and
they're over on the other side. And I mean, they'll have the reckoning once the final big guy comes back and he has his judgment, you know, I mean it. And I guess that when you're talking about that. It's not for us to judge, but it's not for us to live either in turn the other cheek either, So I you know, I don't know what the answer is other than standing up on a soapbox and trying to scream as loud as you can scream and wake up every person. And that's kind
of what I'm doing, you know. Minds the fight Club, you know, it's it's Satan and God and God wins in the end, but you're literally in the middle and just and it's kind of humbling when you think about it. You have the most evil, darkest person ever made, every created satan, and you have the most wonderful I mean, you don't even know how to describe him, the creator of father, you know, of the
universe. And those two people are fighting for you, the one fighting to take you his way on the dark side, and the other ones wanting you just to give you free will to accept him and to check the other. And I mean it's very humbling. And if you can win one person, it was worth the fight, and you just have to keep fighting. And then hopefully that one person wins one person and they win one and it's a domino effect. But you don't know when he's coming back. No man knows
the hour, and so I mean, I don't know. I mean, it's just a you can't just take up arms, you know, that's the one thing you cannot do. You have to abide by the sheriffs. The sheriffs will call you, the States will call you. It kind of goes back to the Civil War stuff, you know. I mean that's how they did the Civil Wars. Tennessee volunteers, that's you know where we got airs. We volunteered to go fight indeed, and one more question then I want
to ask you a little bit about flat earth. But for the people who still by the way, I think another thing that we should do, going back to the conversation we just finished, is people need to get out of the system, because it is a satanic system that we live and we need to figure out ways how to get out of it and be friendly with your neighbors, barter, do whatever you can to use the system air quotes as little as possible, and that includes I'll let people you know, if you
want to vote, pay taxes. Again, that's a whole nother podcast. But you know, talking about it and then still participating in the system, to me personally, isn't helping the situation. What are your thoughts on that? No, you can't, I mean you you kind of have to, and to a certain extent, but as little as little as you possibly. Yes, And I'm trying to get out of it, but I'm so far
tied up in it. I mean it'll I'll probably be dead and going before I'm actually ever out of it. Yeah, and there's no one simple answer for everybody across the board either, that's no, but yeah, it's it's the big thing. Um, quit watching TV. I don't watch TV. I've got YouTube. I've got YouTube people that I watch. I watch them make stuff and build stuff and do stuff and tear stuff up and you know, and even that's getting ridiculous to where it's almost like a TV. And
it's because they've switched. You know, back in the day YouTube was good. Now everybody's quitting. I would love to see the actual numbers on these cable channels and stuff. That's they have to be completely upside down on their stuff. They have they have to be. Um, you'll you'll never see the real numbers because then that will just turn more people off on them. Um. But if you watch YouTube now, basically YouTube's this another version of
cable TV and a roundabout way. So it's getting And now I think people's turning into the podcast because the podcast you can actually say, you know, I mean, within reason, you know what you're it's kind of a free wild West type, you know, where you actually can still state your mind, state you're you know right wrong, you know, and I and I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm all for America. I love America.
I'm an American through and through Um, you fought for America, which you know, I highly appreciate and respect and all those other people that did. You thought you were fighting for a good cause, and you were fighting for a good cause, and you have when you take that oath, you're and and I kind of get torn into this. You know, it's it's one nation under God. But it kind of almost questions, what God are
they talking about? I know what God I'm talking about, correctly, I'm not sure it's the same God that they're you know, when you go discern and all that stuff, you know, and I don't know it's the same one, you know, And I mean we had I guess it all goes to intent. You had good intent, and if your intent is good, there's nothing wrong with that. And it's they're the ones that are going to face judgment and have to deal with it. And that lake of fire is
mighty hot. So I don't want to go there. Yeah, you're not kidding, you know. I don't think I ask you this question yet. But when we talk about how whenever there's a quote unquote emergency, you can go back to COVID and it's only a matter of time before we're involved in another war. We talked a little bit offline before the show started. I think it's sooner rather than later. We're always quick, you know. They
create the emergency so they can manipulate at the outcome. Just again, like COVID, they wanted to get people vaccinated, and they wanted more laws, more rules, They wanted to cut out the middleman. Why do people continue to trust in the government if the government was a spouse, You know, if your spouse lies to you once or twice, where your best friend lies to you a couple of times, you're not going to really trust them anymore.
Why do people continue to believe in the government narrative? But because we're taught that from an early age. And you I guess it goes back to that love. You know, you love your country, and you love your spouse, you love you know your friends, you love all that, and you wouldn't think you give them the benefit of the doubt. And you hope that, especially in the politics, that it's just that four year term that's
bad or it's just this one. And I guess it's when you to be an old man like I am, that you see that twelve step plan is still the same twelve step plan and it ain't got nothing but worse. And every time something happens, you go to nine to eleven, the Patriot Act, you go, you know, it's every single time, and even if you go back to the Federal Building. I mean, man, they killed those guys that Timothy ma May and well I can't remember the other guy's name,
but they yeah, they got rid of him quick. I mean, like that guy was gone. I mean, and and you get some of these people, you know, they're on trial for you know, are in prison, you know, condemned to die for thirty years, they end up dying of old age instead of you know, executed. And this guy, they he was gone. So that dude knew something, that was something. He had a way to say something or do something, and they shut him
up. And to me, that is funny that that and the police officer, Um, I think you you've been one that that's that's pushed that police offic that's yes, sir, that's a whole other thing. And then the lady you know on the nine to eleven, you know, I was saying that about the other building you know falling in. It ain't even fell yet.
You know, she's standing in front of it. And then that one guy that's talking about you know, that's a peaceful protest in the city's burning behind him, and it's just like, you know, you but you still want to trust them. You still want to believe that that one person is bad, not the whole entire system. It's this system is so vast and so big, and there has to be good patriot people in there that we would consider patriots. But then you always hear that every man's got their price.
And then what happens once they get something on you? You know, you start getting into these societies, and if they get something on you, what would you do for that not to come out? I mean, and I think that's where I think that's the honeypot, the honey trap, whatever you want to call it. And I and it's got to do with money, with sex, with everything. I mean, they're gonna get you one
way or the other. Once you there is many, many, many politicians that are dirt poor, that can't even afford to file to get into office, and yet within a couple of years they're a millionaires. They're all all of they're all millionaires. How do you go into a place to serve the people? And become the richest, richest, most powerful as people that's ever
been around all of them, and it's every single one of them. There's literally open the phone book and pick out, you know, five hundred people for a congress and and you know one hundred and something for our Senate. And I'm happy, I don't care who you pick. We would be a hundred times better than what we are right now. And people don't realize that.
And I think especially if they see a little something that's wrong and then they get their attention and they start looking and it's just this one person and it looks and it's a little bit bigger. But then now they get sidetracked Facebook, Google, Um, you know what color cabinets are we are? You know, countertops are we putting in? Or you know, we're this or that the office? You know now that they keep us so screwed in
the brain that you can't concentrate on what they're doing. They're magicians, these people. It shouldn't be politics. It should be the magicians. I mean, because that's their wizards there. They're witches and wizards, warlocks or whatever you want to call it. That they're you know, they're all basically almost all emre demonic. I mean, that's I don't know how else to put it. You can't go in, you can't do what they do, and
just open up your checking account. Let us see your checking account, and we'll know if you're the Drew deal or not. There you go, and I think, bottom line, yeah, I think these people should be barred from doing any transactions with stock options because you know, this government wasn't created for politics to be a career. It's supposed to be you know, your successful businessman, and you step out of the private private life and as a
public servant to serve your people. You spend a few years doing that, and then you go back. You know, it's you're supposed to be a humble human being. You're supposed to go in and help the people of your city, your state, etc. And now you've got there's a picture of Nancy Pelosi posing with JFK. I mean, that's been sixty years and these people they're parasites, is exactly what they are. And it's it's truly sad. It's interesting that you brought up Timothy McVeigh because boy, that guy has
mk ultra or cia all over him. Because he was on General Schwarp's costs PSD, his personal security detail during Operation Desert Storm. And you don't become, you know, on that team unless you've been vetted extremely carefully and obviously you know his quote unquote extremism you would think would have would have been scoped
out. And it's interesting that his trial was moved from Oklahoma City to Denver, of all cities, because a lot of people believe that's the home of the nWo here in the States under the d IA, etc. And then there's lots of reports. You can, of course, don't use Google, you use your alternate search engines. If I remember correctly, I think they put you know, for his lethal and Jex, you know, I think they put the needle in his leg. And there were some reports when they
closed the curtain. I want to say, there was a reporter that said that she still saw his chest rising and falling. So and then there's pictures apparently of him. And by the way, he happened to die exactly ninety days prior to nine to eleven. He died June eleventh, two thousand and one, and then nine to eleven happened ninety days later. And you know, he was out of the news cycle for many years because everything was nine to eleven. So you know, Timothy McVey, he very maywell could be
on that island with Jim Morris and then everybody else. You know, he's so smart, you can make this NAFU bomb I think it was called. But he forgot his license plate on his car. I mean seriously, Oh no, No, these guys are trained, and it was all a set up, and it's just like, you know, you go to oh my gosh, Bush Senior. You know, so you got Papal Bush was in there with the Nazis, and then you got Daddy Bush was in there with Kennedy, and then you got George Bush is in there with nine to eleven.
And then poor old Jeb jib jib dot kg. I don't know, I feel sorry for Jeb. He's the only one that didn't get a corrupt position. Well, Jeff did play an important role of getting Georgian. Remember he just so happened to be the governor of Florida, Florida, and then the hanging Chad of course. Um so yeah, I mean, but he still didn't go where he thought he was gonna go. He's got the personality
of a door knob. No, yes, absolutely, And you know that's the other thing you get into the whole Hitler thing, um, the whole Nazi that. I mean, they're all in South America. I mean, they got places in Argentina that are nothing but Germans. I mean they have their own German. Everything is German there, and I mean and basically Operation paper Clip, we got all the Germans here, So like I mean,
they're all tied together and this is all. It's that, And that's why I go back to so you can get so tied up in each individual little thing that you don't look at the whole picture. And that's kind of how I got you know, once again, that Church of Satan. I mean, if he's here for a thousand years or however long he's here, that everything here is his. He owns everything here until that final battle, and so they can make it, he can do whatever. I mean, And
all you know, it's all basically boils down to your soul. And I mean that and that, and if you look in life, the absolute only thing that you have control over is your soul. That is the only thing that you have control over. You don't have control over anything else nothing free will you have the free will to choose Jesus or not to And that's that's it. That's what it boils down to. And you slice and dice, it takes a gain Zoo knife to it and it still comes out the same,
you know. And and the politics, and I find it fascinating all the politics. And you know, the flat earth, the whole you know, the four pillars or the earth, you know it it, I mean it states right there. And then you know the flood God open you know, Jesus or what God opened up the window of heaven and he flooded the earth. I mean, man, that's a heck of a window, you know. So it's like, how did he open up a window? Why would he open up a window to flood the earth? I mean it just
there's so much. And then you kind of get into the you know, you kind of the cat you go back to the Catholics. So, like I said, Rome never fell. The Catholics, the Jesuits have been in charge of it forever. They so basically to me, and I know I'm probably going to take a lot of people off, but that is Satan right there, That Roman Catholic Jesuit. That is your satanic bond versus you know, Jesus. So basically they're the ones that were there when Jesus died.
They could have stopped it, they didn't. And all through time there has not been a one single war that has been thought that the Catholics have not been involved with in some way or another. Not one. Indeed, it's interesting. I had a listener send me a picture of a Catholic church. He was I guess he was doing some main ins inside there. Maybe I don't remember, but he took pictures and showed me that. I mean, the church must have it must be a ten million dollar church. It looks
like it was recently built. But at the top it had a stained glass window kind of arch at the very top where you could see through, and it had the IHS Jesuit symbol on it. Very interesting. What was the thing, oh, you mentioned against your knife. We're showing our age with that one. And as far as the Germans cities down in South America, use Google for the search engine. Put in La cumbversita Argentina and if you just look at the images, you will thank you that you're looking at some
old Bavarian town like from the nineteen fifties or sixties. Yep, there's a reason Jim Jones went down there. So everybody goes to South America if you want to, if you want to run away and start your own thing, you go down there. I mean it. I'd be scared to see what they is actually below the border, now, could you imagine? Yeah, And you know, here's another fun factor about the flat earth. So we have all these digging machines. You know, we can dig and dig and
tunnel win tunnel, and that's a whole other story. I mean, how many thousands and thousands of miles have these underground tunneling boring machines tunneled? If you just type in how many of them has been made, and then how much they can actually dig per day. It's staggering at the amounts of earth that they can dig. Well, if we're gonna fight China, why didn't we just because I've heard that my whole life. If you went on the
other side of the earth, China's they're all upside down. You know, we're staying on top of China. What we just dig a hole and just go straight through them as surprise, attack them. Yeah, and the deepest hole in the world, I think it's in Siberian it's seven to three miles, seven miles something. Yeah, that's it melted and it's exactly as deep as the deepest part of the ocean. They're both seven and a half miles
deep. And the deepest hole that they've tried, diamonds, everything else, nothing, that's as far as they can go, which almost makes you want to go. If it's so, if they can dig a hole seven miles or bore a hole seven miles, why don't they go to the deepest part. And this is just my peanut brain thinking, if they can't dig a hole because it's too hot, why don't you go to the deepest part of the ocean where it's nice and cold down there, and then start boring your
hole. Um, what I'm saying, you could go a whole lot deeper, but they can't. There's a reet, there's a reason they can't, and you there's a reason. We haven't really talked about your journey to the flat Earth too much. Why don't you kind of how how did that become? And um, what did it take to allow your your guard to come down? And how did it change your perspective on everything? I don't know. I've I've always been puzzled. Like I said, I have that postcard
from the Bird, you know, from where they were in Antarctic. I guess I've always kind of been fascinated with Antarctica and why you couldn't go down there, and you know it goes back to Atlantis and it's you know,
you hear all this stuff. So even you know, as a kid, and I don't know if you remember, you know, they used to have the you know, the Wild World of Disney they had and that was another thing they started there, the Wonderful World of Disney shows on Sunday night at seven o'clock when church was starting, and that's when all that stow was a
huge controversy when I was a kid about that. But they had, you know, they would have their little storylines about Atlantis and you know, Antarctica and showing the little penguins and Antarctica and all this, and it was always just I never did understand because I've always kind of a tracked, you know, like the military stuff, the weaponry and all that, and the Admiral Bird, you know, him him talking that guy if you listened to his story that he was telling. I mean, it was like a jewels burn
going you know, straight to the center of the earth. I mean, you know, it was kind of a weird conversation, and I mean, and that just kind of piqued my interest. And you know, once you start looking, and like I said, once you start looking and you seeing stuff, you can't really the whole moon, the moon thing that was this
fake. You remember Land between Land of the Lost? Of course, those weird looking from yeah, yeah, it had those weird creatures that the cling off or the I don't remember what they were called, but they look lizard people. And that what I remember watching that when I was a kid and it looks so real. I used to think, you know, man, that was just the coolest thing. And then I've seen it years later and
it's just like, man, this is so fake. I'm like, you can just it's like, well, how did I even I can't even believe I watched this and thought it was semi real? And you kind of see that with the moon landing. It's like, I think the same people that did the moon landing made that Land between the Land of the Loss that different. The same people so I mean it just it nothing made sense on the moon landing and then you get in. So if you can't go to the
moon, why have we not been back? So I'm a business guy, and if I can sell moonrocks, just plain old moon rocks, I can figure out a way if I can get there, if somebody else can figure out how to get there, I can figure out how to get there, and I would be selling moonrocks if nothing else. There has to be something, some kind of rare mineral on that rock. Nobody goes back and it don't make no sense, and you know it just you can't. You can
only have such a powerful telescope. They won't be can't sell it, they won't sell it to you. You can't make it. It's it's actually against the wall to have a telescope. Catholic Church has Lucifer, which I find hilarious, But yeah, you can't as a private citizen. You can't make a telescope or have a telescope that is powerful to see the moon. Why why why can't you? And you know, and I that kind of just makes you wonder is it real? And if it's not real, what is
it? Is it? Plasma? Is it gas? Is it? Where does it go? And the stars? How do these people back, you know, four thousand years before Jesus be able to look at the stars and be able to plant corn and stuff, because that same star was there at that position one year later. It took it one year to go in the circle and make its way back to you, and it showed up an exact same place. You know, they made They made the rocks with the holes in them for the calendars, and that one, you know, it would
line up and that was their equinox that was there. You know, that's when they fall was happening. They had to, you know, and you can't have that speeding through space. You can't have it. You just you can't. It's impossible. And I guess that's the biggest one. So it's not so much the Earth being flat as us not being on a globe, I guess would be the biggest thing, if that makes any sense. Yeah,
absolutely, And you know it's interesting. I was just thinking while you were saying that as we became more advanced technologically, I guess we're I don't think we're advanced. I think the looks back then are much wiser and smarter than we are today. But it seems like when we stopped looking up is kind of when we got dumbed down, right, we stopped looking up. You can use that as an analogy, but you can also use it as what they really did. They use the sky as a clock, as a
calendar, um, And we stopped looking up. Yep, absolutely, yep, you stopped looking up, and you also look up for heaven. We followed precise and so it's the same it's the same thing they you know, and they keep you looking at that stupid phone and that's your that's your everything. Now, that's right. And guess what God's not in that in that phone? Um? I mean he is if you look. But you have to look, you know, other than going outside and just looking up and
seeing the stars and be like, who put this here? You know this ain't a big bang it you know, who who put this here? And if we have a creator, if you get out into nature and you start, if you have any kind of a brain at all, And that's the one thing you got to give these people credit for. Oh yeah, they they they have dumbed the people down. You go to college for twenty years,
I mean, you're in. You're in grade school until you're you know, eighteen, and then you turn around and go to college to some of these people are you know, thirty year old. But the time they get out and they're so stupid. They don't know anything. They literally I worked for a lot of these people, and you they got a lot of money, and you know, we we do technical stuff and you know, mechanical
type stuff for them, and you wonder. You talk to them and you realize, how in the world did you get your money because you couldn't. You ain't got enough brains to get in out of the rain. I mean like literally, in these schools they teach them, I don't know what they teach them. I didn't go. I started to go. I was going to go into physics. That's that's actually what I was going to go to college for. And I started and I got in and I'm like, man,
I'm out of here. These people are dumb. I mean, like this is the dumbest stuff. I mean, you could just smell the indoctor nation and that was in eighty five eighty six, so I couldn't imagine what it is now. And but you have to give them credit because they brainwashed these people. I mean literally, they have no brain cells left that they everything that I don't know. And and that goes back to one thing you
were talking about, like what can you do? Um? And this kind of goes into a military stance, the military, and even like what they do in their little cult whatever you want to call them, even the Freemasons or whatever groups that they want to put you in, it's all structured in a period. That's why they make such a big deal out of the pyramid. You got one person on top, and then he has two hands and he's got five fingers or you know, four fingers on each chin and a
thumb, and he's got strings and he's controlling ten people. And then those people are controlling ten people. And that's how it goes up that chain of command, just like the military. And and that's kind of what they've done to us in a roundabout way. And you're in a group, and that's the whole string theory. You know that you wonder where these guys come up with string theory, Well, it's because everything's connected in some way or another.
They have a string connected to you that they can pull and get you back in line and get you back to your puppet master. And it's kind of it. I mean, it's a big you can just talk for days on this stuff. And I mean because it's all related, everything is tied together, and they have their hands on everything. There's not one thing other than your soul that they don't have their hands on. I don't think I've ever done a podcast on The Fact Hunter where an episode didn't cross with another.
The rabbit holes always intersect, and I do think Bill Cooper said it perfectly. People will argue, and I'm guilt. I've been guilty of this. You know, who's at the top, Who's in charge? Is it? Is it the Jews? Is that the Jesuits? Is it the the Illuminati, the Freemasons? And Bill got it right. At the end of the day, they're all they're all Luciferians. He is, Yeah, he
is the top chief at the top of the pyramid. And then you can argue who's under him, and they're all struggling for power, and you can argue, you know, And I think it varies during different times, during different periods. I think over the course of history, some of these groups, I think in the eighteen hundreds, I think the Freemasons had a lot
more power than they do now. I could be wrong, but when they commit an entire political party, all the anti Mason party, you know, from eighteen thirty to whenever, because they've realized, just like you name your podcast the Church of Satan, you realize how important it is to fight this. I mean, it's a big deal. But at the end of the day, they all answer to him, they do, and it's all his and everything everything here he controls. And then it's the same people in charge.
They just fight amongst themselves, and I mean it's and then who's got what on who? And it's that pyramid and this guy gets to climb up and be that puppet master, you know, these people, and then it just it's the same thing. I mean, and it's all it's all related, but yet it's all different at the same time, and they control everything, and it if you go when Jesus died, that's when it started. And it's been going on ever since then. And like you said, who's
in charge wood Satan And this is Satan's realm. He will rule the earth um and he is ruling it in my opinion, I mean, that's that's the that's the head guy in charge, and you're not gonna beat him. You can just annoy the crap out of him by taking souls out of his little wind box. Um. And I guess that's what I'm trying to do, is just take him off. And boy, he gets mad, He'll
throw everything in the world. Are you. I've had a bunch of stuff through it to me and you just got to keep going, Just just keep shrugging along, you know. I mean, that's all you can do. Help if I mute to myself. He uh, he taped to Jesus for forty days right in the desert. Um. Just imagine what Jesus is many levels above us as far as perfection, so you can imagine what he's doing to us. It's it's insane. It's everywhere your eyes look, he's got
something there to tempt you. And and and the only thing that you have really is time. And if he can tick your clock down without you going towards God, he wins that soul. And I mean, and that's it's like the gears of time to stand of time. You know, you hear all different ways, but it's you know, he just wants to run your clock out, and he knows that he is smart enough to know that he when he loses that final battle, he knows that he knows that there's no
way that he can win it. He's already been dealt that hand. And the only thing that he can do is annoy God by taking people out. And I mean, all God wants is you to have a relationship with him. You don't need to go pray to another man for that man to pray for you. You need to have a relationship with him. You need to be in lock stock and barrel with him and and everything that makes the temptations
not there. You know when you rely on him and you can keep your focus on him, which is like what you were saying getting out of this society and getting out of that system. That every time you get out of that system and you take something out that's perverting you or your mind, it puts you one step closer to Jesus, to God. And then you get
stronger and stronger and stronger. And that's the full armor of God. And that's you know, all I can say is don't wear footplops and don't have a latte and don't have a manbun, and you probably be better off. You know, that's funny, man, that Land of the Lost reference. I'll be thinking about that all night. You know what, all these old
TV shows, I wonder if that was more mocker is. I know, I'm just completely jumped ship here, but you know what it was all they had all the dinosaurs in that show, and they had I guess you could reptilians. Yeah, I think they tell you everything that they're doing. They tell you, they can't not tell you. It's kind of like that vampire Satan, you know, Satan santy Claus. You have you have to invite that vampire into your house. And that's true of your personal body is your
house that and you have to invite Satan into your house. And and that's kind of the same reference that reptilian. They have to tell you what they're doing and and you invite them in. You know, as a little kid, you're inviting santy Claus into your house. Well, that dude lives at the North Pole, and if you invert it, you're back at the South Pole. I mean, it's all it's just a weird The whole thing's weird, and it just you can't figure it out. Like nothing. It doesn't
make sense. And like you said it, and you know the Land of the Lost, like they are reptilians, and they're telling you they're reptilians. And if you take one of those creatures and you put it up in the Nancy Pelosi's face, it ain't much difference. Yeah, well, i'll tell you what. I'm interviewing Gary Wayne on Tuesday night. I'll have more information on that. I got his book. It's like eight hundred pages. I got a lot of writing to do. It's an incredible book. Um,
But yeah, what is it. It's the Genesis sixth Conspiracy. Oh yes, okay, okay. And he's he's basically the subject matter expert, um. And he the book's called the Conspiracy, The Genesis sixth Conspiracy, How secret societies and the descendants of giants plan to enslave humankind. It's uh, it's an incredible book. The nepheline. And you, of course, God wiped out the earth because altering DNA messing. Right. Can you imagine those claw marks that were on that door of Noah's art, Oh my god,
trying to get in that door. Can you imagine if they ever and that's why they won't let you find that that you'll never find that ship because for one, it validates the story of that way, and then because of the claw marks of those creatures trying to get into that ship, um, the beast that were that God got rid of. I mean that it would be unreal at the claw mark you would see into that door. Yeah, that's incredible. Got about ten minutes left. Um, was there anything that we
haven't covered yet that you had jotted down? So I think that's about it. I mean I could just sit and talk all night. So yeah, likewise, man, you gotta stop so wor sh um. Yeah, there is so much to cover and uh man, what a great Uh well, we're coming up on ninety minutes, and there's so much to talk about because
we've been deceived by by every one about everything. And the hardest part of waking up is kind of realizing, like I realized I had to kind of like you know how you have your computer and you check your storage to see like I've got a Mackie, You've got to look to see how much storage you have left, and then you realize all of this memory I have on my hard drive is corrupted. It's no good. So you've got to kind of delete all that out and then start learning the right way. And to
me, it kind of reminded me of basic training in the military. Like you went in as a as an eighteen year old snot nosed kid. I was eighteen years and like less than two weeks when I when I showed up to basic training, and you think you know everything and then they basically break you down and build you back up. And that's kind of what you have to do. But one of the greatest things for me is to realize is you've got to put Jesus first and this is a war of good against evil.
And most people, obviously most people who listen to this podcast realize it and understand it. I just wish more people would see it because even there's a lot of people who have woken up to like what went on with COVID, and there's some people who and we pray for them every single day. And I never belittle the people who had to get the JAB. It is what it is. But at the same time, I wish they would see there's still some people who don't see the bigger picture. You don't understand what
I'm saying. Oh yeah, absolutely and you know I didn't wear the mask. I mean I wore it if I had. You know, I had a lot going on with my brain at the time, and when I went into the neurosurgeons and the cancer places, I had to wear it. But when I went in Walmart and I actually got thrown out of a sprint store and got the wall called on me because I didn't wear one, I wouldn't wear it. I just you couldn't convince me that those little particles were going
to be stopped by a paper mask. Because I'm saying stuff and do stuff and I put on the paper mask and you end up blowing your nose and all kind of crazy crap comes out of it. And a cell phone store called the police on you. Yeah, oh my gosh, yeah, and they went out of business. So I mean power of prayer, Yeah yeah, but I mean it, you just I guess I guess that goes back
to that parable, you know where he's talking about that mustard seed. If you plant that mustard seed and then that it'll grow, and I guess that kinda is that wakening your eyes up. Now you can put weed killer and kill that mustard seed when it starts brut sprouting. And you just pray that those people kind of keep their eyes open and listen and learn more. And I learned daily. Man. I failed so many times in my life.
I can't tell you the amount of times I've failed. And you just get back up, knock the dust off, and reboot, start all over. You know, you learn. It's the school of hard knocks, the stupid tax I can't tell you how much stupid tax I've paid in my life. Um. And you just got to learn, you know. And and and just learn from their mistakes. Try to watch other people and learn from their
mistakes, and just try to stay focused on Jesus and on God. And the more you can focus on him, I mean, I find myself not not focusing on him, and you know, and I'm trying to every day to stay in focus on him, and it's so hard not to. And um, you know. And and I'm superstitious, as I'll get out. I growed up in the mountains. I'm superstitious. Um. You know. We like if a cat walks in front of my car, I'm putting across on my shoes on the windshield and my wife thinks I'm nuts, But I've
been doing it my whole entire life. Um, I just you know, and it's not the fact. So there's you know, you kind of get into the pagan side of stuff, and it there's a lot of similarity between the Pagans, the Christians the whole. You know, like some of air beliefs, like we anything demonic. You don't call in anything. Everything out there's demonic. And what we were kind of doing was pushing air people up here was kind of pushing that demonic away from you like you know, putting
the salt out. You know, stuff don't like salt. You know, it's kind of like snails. You know, you're keeping the snails away. If you want snails off, you plant put salt out, yes, yes, And so that's kind of like and and you know, you get some of these people up here, they're more Christian than what they think they are. You know, there's more they're in. They're kind of into the nature side of stuff, and they can see they don't really have to do with
the government, they don't really believe in none of that stuff. You know, they're they can see that there's wrongdoings and there's you know, the wars and all that and they believe in the Creator, but yet they believe, you know, in weird creators. I mean, you know, they almost got it right, just not quite, you know, but you just you
know, you're hoping pray that these people wake up and see it. And I mean, and and you just you know, like there's so much that gives Christianity a bad name, um, that turn a lot of people off. And you know, they've perverted their trying to pervert the Christian you know, religion. Um. And I don't. I don't really call myself religious. I mean, you know, I am in that sense, but it's not a big religion, you know, like organized religion with organized religion exactly,
you know. And I just it's kind of funny like if you're watching you know, some of these shows, the TV preachers and you know, and even that even the Smiley Preacher, you know, the one I'm talking about, it's always only he's got he's probably got a half a million dollars in his teeth, you know. Yeah, but you know, I mean, even that guy is bad as what some of us think that he's doing. He's at least planting most mustard seeds and and if he can get you
just to open your eyes. I mean, you got to get away from I mean, there's a lot more to it than that, you know, but it you just you can't belittle them for doing what they're doing, if that makes any sense, because they're they're at least planting those seeds, and there's so many people out here that ain't planting seeds and are just spraying weed killer, you know, and I mean, and you kind of I guess it takes all kind to wake people up because not everybody sees the same not
everybody's in the same place in their life. Steve Man, it's been a great ninety minutes. Before we go, can you please just tell us a little bit about your podcast and where people can find it, and again just reminder folks, the link will be in the show description. But tell us a little bit about your podcast again as we close. Yep, it's just the Church of Satan. It's on Spotify and putting them out trying to do two shows a week. We got a bunch of backlog. I mean,
it's already been produced, they're just not out there. They're scheduled and I'm basically just talking about all this stuff that we're talking about now. I mean it could be you know, for and going into the cancer place and just seeing all the dead people you know, they've giving up hope. You know when you say you see the dead, you can see the dead anywhere. Anybody can see them. You know, it's people just give up hope. And you don't have to. You know, there's more to life than that.
And you just you know, just talk a little bit about fighting, you know, putting up the good fight. God wants you to put up a good fight. He don't want you to lay down, you know, And just try to talk to people and just spread the word. I mean that's pretty much it. And try to get other people motivated for them to
spread the word. And then and then the fun fact of all that is you get to see all these stupid conspiracy theories that ain't conspiracy theories, no war, it's what we call reality, you know, we get to talk about those. Well, man, you're a You're just a fantastic person and I'm so happy to you know, when to read your email. You've had to overcome a lot physically, and continue to keep you in our prayers, stay healthy because we need you in the fight. Brother, I appreciate it
and planning on going to where yet, So there you go. Well, God bless you go ahead. Yep, God, God don't want me up there yet because I got too many questions and I want to aggravate the heck out of him. And and I'm not going to hell because I know how to do heat and air and I'll freeze that bastard out something. I got to say. You know you'll be down there and land the HVAC. Okay, yeah, oh brother. Again, it's been an absolute pleasure. Thank
you for coming on the podcast giving a lot of valuable information. I always say I've learned something from every single individual that's been on here, and I've certainly learned a lot from you. So thank you for sharing the knowledge. And everybody check out Steve's podcast again. It'll be linked in the show description. Steve from the Great State, Tennessee. My wife had always said, if we hit the lotto, that's where we were moving to. We're gonna
get a great, big house on top of the mountain down there. Nothing more beautiful, nothing more beautiful than Tennessee in the fall, that's for sure. East to east ten Yes, we're not gonna hang out in Memphis. Arkansas area. UM, not that there's anything wrong with that. As they say, um, it's flat though it's one hundred percent Well, God bless your brother, and thank you all so much for listening and for your support and again questions, comments, concerns, or you'd like to come on like
Steve did tonight. It is the flat Earth Files at gmail dot com and make sure you check out the website the flat earth files dot com For Steve. I'm George. God bless you all. Keep your head on a swivel and until the next time we will see you.